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I think Arch actually came up with a way a while back. The tl:dr version is have the Chapter Master of the Blood Angels (whose name escapes me at the moment) kill Lucius, since he's the equivalent of a grizzled old war veteran, and has no positive emotions in regards to wagging war for the Imperium or the slaying of others. Also, all of said Chapter Masters arms and armor were created by himself, so Lucius wouldn't be able to pull that BS where he got killed by an artillery barrage, and then possessed the weapon manufacturer who felt pride in the artillery shells he helped construct, knowing they'd be used to kill the enemies of the Imperium.
Majorkill your 40k vids are the best, will you cover the other chaos god champions? I thought that the demon primarchs were the champions of each respective chaos god can you explain that?
maybe Trazyn could just win by technicality by keeping him in stasis for eternity. Just like, oh neat, a chaos champion for my collection, and Lucius never leaves the museum exhibit ever again
@@K-yu-ko8dv The idea of Trazyn snatching up Lucius with no clue about his abilities or significance, but simply wanting another shiny for his Chaos exhibits is peak necron fuckery imo
Imagine if Lucius died to a random headshot from a random ork who was just unloading into the distance because he litterally had nothing better to do when he was so far away from the actual front. The probably would not know that he put Lucius down and if he knew, he would probably just feel cheated that he did not get to "Bash dat humie git propah!".
@@hertogvandamme even still. The orks are protected by Gork and Mork, their gods. So they wouldn't take too kindly when that Slaanesh'git is trying to revive his/her champion onto one of their worshipper Boyz.
@Anzu Wyliei no doubt, but the schtick of Krieg is they REALLY wanna die (in service to Big E, ideally, but not required), it's more that they wouldn't feel any pride or satisfaction after the multi-batallion swarm eventually dragged him down that makes them the only IG regiment that could, conceivably, bypass his Cheese.
Kriegsmen wouldn't shy away from straight up suicide attacks either. Killing someone becomes a lot easier once you stop worrying about your own survival, and it would also leave Lucius with no killer to respawn into, even if the kriegsman in question felt some pride in doing his own part in redeeming his homeworld.
I feel like the landmine thing sets a bit too strong of a precedent in terms of what counts as “killing Lucius”. A man who ordered the deathrobot into battle, an imperial commander who started the campaign during which Dante and Lucius met, some heretic that piloted whatever thing got Lucius to the place he was killed at can all be technically considered someone who “killed” Lucius. Basically, if whoever killed Lucius does not qualify for whatever reason, an argument can be made that the curse would simply travel along convoluted lines of reasoning to whoever is next in line of responsibility for the act - cause, you know, Slaanesh doesn’t play fair.
Slaanesh can bring back Lucius from death anyway so it's all for moot Abaddon, Kharn, Typhus, Lucius, Kranon and Huron can be revived Same with Konrad, Talos, Argel Tal, Aximand and Maloghurst If Eliphas can be revived so can Lucius
@@christiandauz3742 Konrad (I assume your referring to Curze) dealt his soul to any of the gods and never served them. So he can’t be resurrected as he was not a daemon primarch.
@@lordtallon5610 Chaos Gods can bring back the dead. Kharn, allegely, died on Terra and was brought back to life Archaon was revived after he committed suicide. Isabella was revived by Nurgle
GW is kind of hording all the good stuff "for when they really need it", meanwhile the plot just stagnates and we don't get any cool shit happening other than papa smurf's return.
@@paranidherc from an "outsider" or just a casual, its amazing how not only the imperium stagnates but the entire lore without any true advance even when they are pushing to a bigger clusterfuck still near all the same
@@IsaacClodfelter I think Lucius is right underneath "Grey Knights slaughtering Adepta Sororitas to be immune to corruption they are already immune to because they are the fucking Grey Knights, just like Adepta Sororitas are immune to because they are 24/7 wet for their golden daddy" on the list of most retarded things in the 40k universe. The guy could trip on a vine, smash his head and the last Old One on the other end of the galaxy would turn into Lucius, cause he is proud of having created the planet it happened on.
@@paranidherc dude they make they grey knights do some dumb shit trying to justify their powers. I feel like the process of becoming one should be plenty of narrative weight for their powers. They are the sons of the emperor. They shouldn't need to bathe in the blood of the emperor's fan girls to get protection from what their genes should protect him from.
I guess the best way to kill lucious. Step 1 find a group of suicidal person, promise them death if they kill lucious. step 2 have those person learn how to craft weapon that can kill lucious. step 3 let the, use those weapon to kill lucious step 4 let them all suciade step 5 mind wipe everyone that see lucious death and also mind wipe the decision maker so no one will take pride in his death. Or the alternative way step 1 buy over 50% of shares in GW. step 2 in a shareholder meeting use your voting right and force GW to write a book to kill lucious. If those won't work step 1 call sly marbo step 2 mind wipe those who call in sly marbo or witness lucious death.
Gulliman's also using the Emperor's sword now, which is powerful enough to permakill warp entities like daemons, even in the off chance that he was potentially vulnerable to Slaanesh's curse, the sword would obliterate Lucius' soul. No soul, no possession.
I don't know if it would work for I'm no expert in Chaos lore (because, you know, that's heresy and stuff) but I laughed at the idea of sending the Changeling disguised as Lucius to face him, then having the real Lucius kill him and due to some tzeentchy shenanigans make the curse backfire at him because he would definitely take pride in having defeated "himself" but then turning into another Changeling instead. Ironic and double trouble for the enemies of Tzeentch forevermore. Just as planned indeed.
Personally, I think the Tyranid plot would be the best send off for him. It would be open ended to allow him back (assuming they have an idea for him), or they can leave him effectively dead as needed. Also a horrific grimdark way to not die repeatedly for all eternity.
@@Explorerofshadows nah he got split in two lesser gods, one is 12 yo atheist and other is the essence of hatred towards everything (not Khorne way, Khorne's worshippers don't kill civilians on purpose. At least not supposed to, because it's dishonourable).
Another way you can defeat Lucius is not even killing him, sever his limbs off, lock him in an adamantium box, and bury him underground. Make sure the person who does this is a blank
I would vouch for fabius bile, in one of the books it explains how much Lucius "fears him" due to fabius's ability to chop him up and lock him away while still keeping him alive
What about an Eversor assassin , he would probably be too high to even realize what he just killed and how. Also in the moment of transformation his martyrdom perk would go off
@@TheWarmachine375 Everyone is expendable to the Chaos Gods unless they can provide something that no one else can Why should the Dark Gods care about YOU? What makes you difference than everyone else willing to be their servant? Have not seen a Sniper/Assassin/Marksman (or woman or Xeno) Champion of Slaanesh in either 40k or Age of Sigmar
No no no, he needs to put Lucius in a soundproofed box that he cant see out of, but any onlocker can look into so we can get some juicy irony by having a champion of Slaneesh trapped in a empty void for the rest of time.
Let's imagine that: Lucius gets om-nomed by a Nid. Got ressed. Then gets om-nomed again. And Ressed. And again and again untill eternity. That's some eternal pain and suffering that even Slaanesh couldn't have prepared him for. Grimdark. And a fitting end.
I mean even if he was to be prepared for it , after some time there would be no pleasure and it would have goteen tedious , eventually becoming torture , even if something is pleasure it can become torture if you're forced to relive it enough times , and at that point he would not only have PTSD that makes normal PTSD look like a joke and , yes he could possibly take pleasure from all this but there's more , pleasure would have no worth to him since he would have overdosed on it so heavly , he would be dead inside to the point of Loyalists thinking that either he was lobotomized , playing or just a doppleganger , then they would realize that it's real Lucius and kill or even leave him out of pity .
@@christiandauz3742 Now a question , what if all 4 Ahriman or Tzeentch and Lucius and Typhus and Kharn The Betrayer were to fight in free for all , who would have been last one standing ?
@@christiandauz3742 Whould Khorne or Nurgle be more interested in Rage virus from 28 days and 28 weeks later ? Or would neither of them be interested about it due to it looking too much like the other God's work ?
The sons of malice can also kill luscious since they have no souls not even humans feelings that is why they are good at facing sister of battle or any type of magical characters
Give Trazyn a call and offer him a shiny trinket from someone you dont like anyway(like a weapon or suit of armor from a traitor or lost primarch) under the condition that he nabs Lucius to. Now Trazyn may have standards on his collection, but even he should have the occasional closet he never enters.
The Silent King would kill Lucius then execute half his retinue for allowing Lucius to come within eye contact. No pride, no joy, just annoyance he had to swat a fly.
They just need to modify Lucious’s powers through some event. Maybe the Eldar cast some hyper strong anti-slannesh sorcery and Lucious is sent to stop them and takes the spell in Slannesh’s place. As a consequence, he loses most of his connection with Slannesh and has to adapt with different skills.
Lucius: _"Ha, you're doomed, you took pride in defeating me!"_ Cato: _"I, Cato Sicarius, take pride in everything i do, because i, Cato Sicarius am Cato Sicarius."_ _"And i, Cato Sicarius serve the imperium to the best of my ability, so i , Cato Sicarius take pride in everything i do, for i, Cato Sicarius do everything for the imperium."_ Slaanesh: _"Uhm Lucius.......his pride level is over 9000, soooooooooooooooo, you're fucked."_ Lucius: (ʘ‿ʘ) Slaanesh: _"Sorry sweety, not in that way."_ Lucius: (ʘoʘ)
The Slaanesh agent that put the crown, said that Guilliman would be cursed to never more feel pride. so it would be an ironic victory to an chaos champion being being beaten by it's own's god's curse. btw, celestine was close to being corrupted in her novel, but an custodes killed her to stop it before she ressurected as normal.
Concept: Eldar farseer slaps a soulstone onto Lucius before dealing the killing blow. Lucius' soul goes into the stone, so he can't respawn. Hand it over to a Harlequin, he drops it off somewhere deep in the webway.
Who would take pride in killing Lucius? It's like beating up on a special needs, ginger, Australian, quadriplegic. And ain't nobody gonna take pride in that
@Abaddon The Despoiler+ Someone who is paralysed from the neck down (no use of legs OR arms). As opposed to a paraplegic, who is paralysed from the waist down (no use of legs, but can still use their arms).
@@Canadian_Zac Indeed. Plus the fun way to beat Lucius without killing him is to cut off his arms and legs, then leave him alone beaten and humiliated. You can't kill him but you killed his pride.
Boy you really want this perv to die? Majorkill: makes predictions of lucius's death Lucius: Dies the way majorkill predicted Majorkill: proud of this and happy We all know where this is going...
You have an ogryn blindly kill him, then a commissar shames the ogryn, convincing the ogryn that he just killed a man who has a wife and kids, donates to charity, and does community service. The ogryn feels ashamed, cries a little, and goes on fighting with little memory of lucius
If I could add two to the list: The Ledgion of the Damn: The fiery hand of the emperors wrath, at worst Lucius dies and does not come back, at best Lucius dies, his soul infects the Lotd Marine and the Emperors holy fire burns it to ask and soot. A blank/pariah: Can't bound a souls to you if they don't have a soul and it is confirmed that the special shoulder cannon can straight up delete demons, so I could hope for that as well.
It doesn't matter, Lucius will just invent some excuse and say that the smith who made their weapons took pride in it. The only way to kill him is if someone does it while naked, with their bare hands.
Unironically sly marbo and caiphas cain. Sly marbo doesn't take pride in his job Caiphas cain would just be sad about living through the battle and sucessfully killing a chaos champion
It would be pretty cool if Saul Tarvitz was the one who killed lucius, Lucius was Saul's Friend and Saul would feel nothing but sadness for killing him
I appreciate that you added the robot at first, as the fact that it is the most reasonable of all the one you put considering the jumps and hoops the plot should go around to make Lucius fight any of the others, with the exception of a timely summoning of Celestine
Just put him in the imperial palace during the process of killing him ... And let a custodes do it. Then now, Slaanesh has to somehow get through the Emperor in order to get him back, and he's not worth the hassle.
@@f.e.areproduce5298 he did. Nykonna Sharrowkyn was the only person to “kill” Lucius cuz he took no joy in it nothing at all. Lucius was only able to come back cuz Slaneesh wanted him back
Have an Eldar Solitaire kill him. I just want to see what would happen since more often then not Slaanesh doesn’t even get their souls even though Solitaires are supposed to belong to Slaanesh
Guilliman with the Emperor's Sword would be a pretty much guaranteed perma-kill considering the sword can obliterate demons completely. Tyrannids would be a hilarious pseudo-death though.
I wonder if Grimnar's Axe of morkai could beat the curse, since it was a chaos weapon forged for one of khorne's favorite champions and has proven instrumental in beating potentially unkillable foes such as Defeating a daemon primarch
Russ would be proud of killing big things and was pissed and proud of his son Bjorn for killing a deamon which Russ wanted to kill...soo ironically if Russ heard lucious was an amazing swordsman he probably would take pride but dreadnaught Bjorn wouldn't feel pride as he just wants to be good enough for Russ
He would probably feel disappointment if he slayed Lucius, since the ugly bastard was hyped up to be an amazing swordsman, but Leman just killed him with a single backhand.
Bjorn the Fell Handed is one of the finest dreadnoughts in Imperial records, fighting with Leman Russ in the Great Crusade, and living beyond those he fought.
If they do decide to kill Lucius I'll think they'll do it with the perfect clone of Fulgrim. For him to see what path the original lead his sons down and what Lucius has become the Fulgrim clone would take absolutely no satisfaction in killing him, but he'd do it. And the writers at GW could get a lot of mileage out of a story building up to that climax.
I read somewhere that The Silent King can split planets in half with a single blow, due to his staff containing a portal that can send a near infinite amount of scarabs through it.
I still think Cain is a strong candidate. Lucius would know that Cain is a pretty good swordsman by human standards and decide to go kill him (because after all, a regular human is just no match for an astartes in a duel). The fight would be pretty predictable, with Lucius basically just toying with him while Cain desperately tries to defend himself. Lucius gets cocky and tunnel-visions right up until Jurgen blows his head off with his trusty melta. Jurgen feels no pride because he just doesn't give a damn and has saved Cain exactly that way like... 50 times, and hey he's also a blank so maybe that matters.
Even if Cain delivered the killing blow because he's always protected by Jurgen's blank aura would never be far enough from him to be affected by the curse. Also even though Cain shows acts the part ofa herofull of bravado and bluster. He's actually quite humble believing he's a coward who's deserving of execution and is just doing his best to avoid it.
@@christiandauz3742 Cain litterally held his own against a Khornate Chaos marine. The man is not quite the coward and impostor he himself thinks he is.
Got one idea that may work. If Lucius is killed by a being that takes pride in it, intentionally, if they are able to resist being overwritten by Lucius they may be able to imprison him within themselves. It would prevent him from resurrecting, at least until that host dies or is finally corrupted by the demonic possession. Not much but it’s something.
Every necron character with more IQ then a canopteck scarab: Throw Lucious into a Tesseracht Labyrint. He will die by bordom. Or better let Trazyn cath him.
Sadly no, since he even could regenerate inside a necron. You know those beings withou any traces of their soul because it was eaten. So yeah sadly lucius is immortal
Maybe demon primarch Angron? I would say that he is far too angry to feel real pride. Also, not sure whether the transformation would work on someone who is basically a greater daemon.
I mean even if all he experienced was pleasure it would spell one horrible fate to him , no mortal or even daemon pleasure would give him any meaningful satisfaction , he would no longer care about anything and would just blow his brains out afterwards due to everything losing meaning , action and everything would lose it's appeal due to how big of overdose he would have taken , and how much of mighty tolerance he would have built up before he's gone through 1 % of hive's creatures .
@@f.e.areproduce5298 also, the hive fleet would not lose the bio mass, While two tyranids are being possesed, killed and dragged into the acid pool by the tyranid that killed it, amd said tyranid killed aswell by the new tyranid out of said biomass, repeating the cycle. The rest of the fleet would be doing as usual
@@iamafuckingfailure So Lucius being fucked would not even fuck the Hive Fleet, it would straight up keep fucking Lucius till he wants to blow his own brains out, because of how much tolerance he would build to endless pleasures of death.
Another character that could permanently kill Lucius would be Epistolary Sabazius of the Exorcists chapter, because he can attack the soul of any creature directly. And without a soul, there would be nothing that Slaanesh could move to continue the curse.
Slanesh will probably open a warp portal for his depraved arse. Better to put him in Stasis. With a fuck ton of Wards and nulls under the Grey knights Fortress on Titan.
So I made a thread on r/40klore on my nominee for “Who can permakill Lucius:” Ciaphas Cain. That mofo is so moody about everything he accomplishes he will never feel joy no matter how much he’s praised. Contingency plan: take him to a black ship and feed him to the Emperor
Ciaphas Cain: _"I don't even know how it happened!"_ _"I was just driving as fast as i could away from the battlefield, i felt a bump, i ignored it and drove further till i ran out of Promethium."_ _"A patrol found me and when i thought my suffering would finaly end, and i would be tried and punished for the coward i am, THEY PRAISE ME FOR FOR KILLING LUCIUS THE ETERNAL!"_ *_"WHEN WILL THIS CHARADE END?!!"_*
I have a theory that Clone Fulgrim could take Lucius out. My thinking is that since Clone Fulgrim regrets his other self’s falls to Chaos, he would be Lucius as the ultimate representation of it, and see him as so lowly and disgusting he would take no pride in killing him.
Imagine not letting your citizens go to the countryside away from all the people just to make them go back into the city where there’s thousands of more people.
Or you know, be like Guilliman or Dante. Seriously, living in a world full of war and and daemons could really remove your pride, especially for Guili boy, as he is just really disgusted, not prideful. Also be like Saint Celestine
Actually I think Culexus Assassin can also permanently kill him. They can namely destroy other beings soul. Unless the lore has been chanced Chaos can't resurrect those whom souls have been destroyed. The primarch Horus is good example with this.
the easiest way to delete lucius is for eldrad or somebody similar in psychic power to re direct hive fleet kronos (the hive mind's anti chaos hive fleet) into slaneshi space and then just wait for him to die forever due to the extreme shadow in the warp going on fucking with chaos doing anything
Meme marines, because they hate themselves so much, that they wanna die. If one of them kills Lucius, he will just cry, that he didn't die this time too.
14:29 You forgot to mention that the Ctan are basically anathema to the warp so even if they aren't too powerful for the curse, it just straight up wouldn't work on them. Also any culexus assassin would work for the same reason.
Nice idea. Imo few space marines would be equipped to destroy a Ghost, hence they wouldn’t be able to permakill the Guardian. It would be a long tenuous process of the space marines armor being whittled down, or they just get nova bombed at the start
@@clueless2001 ikr because of the immortality a space marine would have a hard time dealing with the guardian, and the fact that a ghost can heal them indefinitely
Cawl. One of Cawl's personalities might still feel pride, assuming they had enough sense of self left to have emotions or even sapience....but that just means that Lucius regens as a brain in a jar or as a bit of corrupted code in a cogitator implant. Eitherway, he's stuck... ...and that's assuming Cawl would feel pride in personal combat and not just see it as another variable in a long string of computational strategy. Solar Atomize and move on. Also, he's old AF since he was born pre-heresy, probably about as old Lucius if not older, so the Dante/Silent King/Eldrad age thing could also come into play.
Cawl would be like "Ther are things that can be done which will be better solutions for champions of Chaos Gods, servitors for Sisters of Silence, making you an Eversor Assasin or something similar, imprisonment in life support that doubles as prison, so many choices tell me honestly, which do you prefer?".
I always thought that if someone had balls of steel and perfect timing they could kill Lucius and then instantly set off a ton of explosives so that even though Lucius takes their body he is also atomised by several thousand kilograms of explosives with no one else to take.
If the doom of malantai was still around It'd just straight up vore his soul, and all slannesh could do is watch Lucious get disintegrated into the hive mind like an LSD infused gummy bear being ripped apart by a swarm of ants
I’d wonder how the clone of Fulgrim would do with killing Lucius. He’d probably stomp him because yeah he’s a Primarch and would see disgust in killing him, viewing him as a failure of the old Fulgrim and as a mistake that must be removed.
C’mon man... no one wants to see Dante succumb to the Black Rage unless it involves him finally fulfilling his prophecy and saving the Emperor in the process. And frankly, I don’t think anything Lucius is capable of would qualify as threatening the Emperor.
What about the clone of Fulgrim? He is a primarch but we also know that the clone is uncorrupted and feels disgust for the version of him that turned. He might would probably feel pity for Luscious as he would remember how he used to be and guilt because Fulgrim would blame himself. I know you mentioned primarchs but you only mentioned Guillimon. A more interesting encounter would be the clone of Fulgrim vs Luscious.
I think Fabius Bile could kill Lucius. If Lucius were one of his experiments and he died as a result, bile would probably be more sad to lose the material than pride
To this I'd like to add Oan Mkoll from the Tanith First and Only, I've started to suspect the man is some kind of avatar of death, and the Chaos forces are basically convinced of this.
You forget that if a landmine crafter was able to be taken the why not the man who made the sword or pistol or the people that smelted the metal or mined it.
@@fearlessbird9422 The quote is irrelevant. If you read the book you'd realize that Lucius wasn't even a champion of Slaanesh when Sharrowkyn killed him. Doesn't matter if he took pride in not or not because Lucius was just a normal Astartes when he died.
Would definetly like the concept of the dipshit being mutilated unto non existence by individuals and the deathbot and every other being known and unknown in lore and fan stories Also vulcan would not be corrupted by lucius because he is love incarnate and pride is non existent to him Also love the fact you said on celestine 10/10 would let her purge me LETS BE HONEST HERE WE ALL WANT TO BE PURGED BY HER
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I Like Timmy. He is a good punchingbag.
How to deal with Lucius
Step one: Tesseract labyrinth
Step two: lob it in to Commeragh
I think Arch actually came up with a way a while back. The tl:dr version is have the Chapter Master of the Blood Angels (whose name escapes me at the moment) kill Lucius, since he's the equivalent of a grizzled old war veteran, and has no positive emotions in regards to wagging war for the Imperium or the slaying of others. Also, all of said Chapter Masters arms and armor were created by himself, so Lucius wouldn't be able to pull that BS where he got killed by an artillery barrage, and then possessed the weapon manufacturer who felt pride in the artillery shells he helped construct, knowing they'd be used to kill the enemies of the Imperium.
Saul Tarvitz>Lucius
Majorkill your 40k vids are the best, will you cover the other chaos god champions? I thought that the demon primarchs were the champions of each respective chaos god can you explain that?
Being honest, getting locked into an endless cycle of being devoured by Tyrannids for eternity is the EXACT kind of ending I'd want for Lucius.
The tryanids would be like: MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE …
Lucius the Eternal, eternally nommed by an eternally large number of Tyranids for all eternity. Sounds good
And then the Hivemind be like: This is...Requiem.
maybe Trazyn could just win by technicality by keeping him in stasis for eternity. Just like, oh neat, a chaos champion for my collection, and Lucius never leaves the museum exhibit ever again
@@K-yu-ko8dv The idea of Trazyn snatching up Lucius with no clue about his abilities or significance, but simply wanting another shiny for his Chaos exhibits is peak necron fuckery imo
Imagine if Lucius died to a random headshot from a random ork who was just unloading into the distance because he litterally had nothing better to do when he was so far away from the actual front. The probably would not know that he put Lucius down and if he knew, he would probably just feel cheated that he did not get to "Bash dat humie git propah!".
an ork waaaaagh wluld also be a fitting end for him
Mek boyz find pride in their shootas, so the mek boy would become Lucius
@@hertogvandammeFucking bullshit respawn hacks
@@hertogvandamme even still. The orks are protected by Gork and Mork, their gods. So they wouldn't take too kindly when that Slaanesh'git is trying to revive his/her champion onto one of their worshipper Boyz.
A whole swarm of Death Korps of Krieg. Not only do they hate themselves, but all the equipment was made by other Kriegers who hate themselves.
Also: dying via a lot of shovels must be painful
OHGAS and another one gone
Aaaannndd another one bites the dust. YEAH!
Krieger vatclones would likely work, unless Luscious Lucy got a Plot Armor upgrade.
@Anzu Wyliei no doubt, but the schtick of Krieg is they REALLY wanna die (in service to Big E, ideally, but not required), it's more that they wouldn't feel any pride or satisfaction after the multi-batallion swarm eventually dragged him down that makes them the only IG regiment that could, conceivably, bypass his Cheese.
Kriegsmen wouldn't shy away from straight up suicide attacks either. Killing someone becomes a lot easier once you stop worrying about your own survival, and it would also leave Lucius with no killer to respawn into, even if the kriegsman in question felt some pride in doing his own part in redeeming his homeworld.
I feel like the landmine thing sets a bit too strong of a precedent in terms of what counts as “killing Lucius”. A man who ordered the deathrobot into battle, an imperial commander who started the campaign during which Dante and Lucius met, some heretic that piloted whatever thing got Lucius to the place he was killed at can all be technically considered someone who “killed” Lucius.
Basically, if whoever killed Lucius does not qualify for whatever reason, an argument can be made that the curse would simply travel along convoluted lines of reasoning to whoever is next in line of responsibility for the act - cause, you know, Slaanesh doesn’t play fair.
Good point .
Slaanesh can bring back Lucius from death anyway so it's all for moot
Abaddon, Kharn, Typhus, Lucius, Kranon and Huron can be revived
Same with Konrad, Talos, Argel Tal, Aximand and Maloghurst
If Eliphas can be revived so can Lucius
@@christiandauz3742 Konrad (I assume your referring to Curze) dealt his soul to any of the gods and never served them. So he can’t be resurrected as he was not a daemon primarch.
@@lordtallon5610
Chaos Gods can bring back the dead. Kharn, allegely, died on Terra and was brought back to life
Archaon was revived after he committed suicide. Isabella was revived by Nurgle
Step 1: be high ranking
Step 2: strap bomb to self and tell noone
Step 3: boom
"If you can't kill it, contain it."
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Bring in the LOCKWARDEN. :D
Who summoned me
@@lioneljohnson8787
Call upon the EMPEROR'S GRACE and thou shall receive
I am now going back to the sewers.
The Perfect clone of Fulgrum should be able to as well since he hates what his legion became so he would feel pity fighting Lucius
GW is kind of hording all the good stuff "for when they really need it", meanwhile the plot just stagnates and we don't get any cool shit happening other than papa smurf's return.
@@paranidherc from an "outsider" or just a casual, its amazing how not only the imperium stagnates but the entire lore without any true advance even when they are pushing to a bigger clusterfuck still near all the same
@@paranidherc belisarius cawl might become Lucius at that point but maybe not.
@@IsaacClodfelter I think Lucius is right underneath "Grey Knights slaughtering Adepta Sororitas to be immune to corruption they are already immune to because they are the fucking Grey Knights, just like Adepta Sororitas are immune to because they are 24/7 wet for their golden daddy" on the list of most retarded things in the 40k universe.
The guy could trip on a vine, smash his head and the last Old One on the other end of the galaxy would turn into Lucius, cause he is proud of having created the planet it happened on.
@@paranidherc dude they make they grey knights do some dumb shit trying to justify their powers. I feel like the process of becoming one should be plenty of narrative weight for their powers. They are the sons of the emperor. They shouldn't need to bathe in the blood of the emperor's fan girls to get protection from what their genes should protect him from.
Lucius: trips over a chair and dies
Chair:
Lucius: *you have taken pride in defeating me and now I return*
That's canon now.
some where just an old carpenter just becomes lucius
>Lucius: trips over a chair and dies
That one made me laugh hard. Thanks.
I guess the best way to kill lucious.
Step 1 find a group of suicidal person, promise them death if they kill lucious.
step 2 have those person learn how to craft weapon that can kill lucious.
step 3 let the, use those weapon to kill lucious
step 4 let them all suciade
step 5 mind wipe everyone that see lucious death and also mind wipe the decision maker so no one will take pride in his death.
Or the alternative way
step 1 buy over 50% of shares in GW.
step 2 in a shareholder meeting use your voting right and force GW to write a book to kill lucious.
If those won't work
step 1 call sly marbo
step 2 mind wipe those who call in sly marbo or witness lucious death.
Pinocchio is that you?
Gulliman's also using the Emperor's sword now, which is powerful enough to permakill warp entities like daemons, even in the off chance that he was potentially vulnerable to Slaanesh's curse, the sword would obliterate Lucius' soul. No soul, no possession.
Tzeentch would trick Lucius into killing himself, just to annoy Slaanesh.
I don't know if it would work for I'm no expert in Chaos lore (because, you know, that's heresy and stuff) but I laughed at the idea of sending the Changeling disguised as Lucius to face him, then having the real Lucius kill him and due to some tzeentchy shenanigans make the curse backfire at him because he would definitely take pride in having defeated "himself" but then turning into another Changeling instead. Ironic and double trouble for the enemies of Tzeentch forevermore. Just as planned indeed.
Lucius would be so proud of killing himself he'd be reborn as twins.
@@Jagonath Lol! Nice.
@@Jagonath And Lucius A will not be able to stand Lucius B, and they will attempt to kill the other. Again. And again. And again. 😂😂😂
Yes i like this idea
Personally, I think the Tyranid plot would be the best send off for him. It would be open ended to allow him back (assuming they have an idea for him), or they can leave him effectively dead as needed. Also a horrific grimdark way to not die repeatedly for all eternity.
"The big E would fart and then Lucius would be deleted from existence forever" Pretty much
Big E: *"DELETE."* (erases Lucius so completely he is at the Retconnian with Malal, Fucking Horus and Squats)
Slaanesh: "Oh no."
@@TheWarmachine375 christ I feel bad for those guys in the vault
@@TheWarmachine375 Malal is kinda back, but he got split in two. Guess Sundowner got him, huh.
@@-WarCriminal-22 I thought he came back as Malice?
@@Explorerofshadows nah he got split in two lesser gods, one is 12 yo atheist and other is the essence of hatred towards everything (not Khorne way, Khorne's worshippers don't kill civilians on purpose. At least not supposed to, because it's dishonourable).
Imagine if, in an ironic twist of fate, Lucius ended up being used like a computer virus to bring down the Tyranid Hivemind.
Another way you can defeat Lucius is not even killing him, sever his limbs off, lock him in an adamantium box, and bury him underground. Make sure the person who does this is a blank
Wow never thought of this.
thinking that. but wouldn't slaanesh just open up a pulsating moist portal that sucks lucius into and then squirts him back out some place else?
Why not let the blank kill him, particularly a sister of silence.. technically they are immune to warp fuckery.
Slaanesh just teleports Lucius to safety then
Pull a hidan on hin6
I would vouch for fabius bile, in one of the books it explains how much Lucius "fears him" due to fabius's ability to chop him up and lock him away while still keeping him alive
*Ciaphas Cain kills Lucius by chance*
*I SHOULD BE DEAAAAAAAD, HOW CAN I BE ALIIIIIIIVE ?!*
Plus Jurgen's Blank powers nullify Lucius' warp powers too as well
@@TheWarmachine375 Honestly, having the Sisters of Silence swarm Lucius should work.
@@robertnelson9599 That too as well
MOOD KINDRED
What about an Eversor assassin , he would probably be too high to even realize what he just killed and how. Also in the moment of transformation his martyrdom perk would go off
Slaanesh can bring back Lucius just like Eliphas
Slaanesh can just find new toys
@@TheWarmachine375
Everyone is expendable to the Chaos Gods unless they can provide something that no one else can
Why should the Dark Gods care about YOU? What makes you difference than everyone else willing to be their servant?
Have not seen a Sniper/Assassin/Marksman (or woman or Xeno) Champion of Slaanesh in either 40k or Age of Sigmar
@@christiandauz3742 By that logic, Lucius is expendable and will not be revived anymore by Slaanesh for no longer being entertaining at all
Everser assassin's death explosion if it killed Lucius MAY work: there would literally be no body to transform into Lucius
Trazyn the Troll should get him to his stasis exhibition and save everyone's nerves from Lucius
Filed under:
Most deplorable beings in the galaxy.
Somewhere not too far from the podium reserved for Erebus..... fuck Erebus.
@@justinanderson2460 the biggest asshole of the universe for the last 10000 years
Basicly, Trazyn can defeat almost anyone in this way. Should be here as honorable mention.
No no no, he needs to put Lucius in a soundproofed box that he cant see out of, but any onlocker can look into so we can get some juicy irony by having a champion of Slaneesh trapped in a empty void for the rest of time.
He could put him next to the Fulgrim-Clone which he received from Fabius Bile. Would be a fitting addition to his collection.
Let's imagine that: Lucius gets om-nomed by a Nid. Got ressed. Then gets om-nomed again. And Ressed. And again and again untill eternity. That's some eternal pain and suffering that even Slaanesh couldn't have prepared him for. Grimdark. And a fitting end.
I mean even if he was to be prepared for it , after some time there would be no pleasure and it would have goteen tedious , eventually becoming torture , even if something is pleasure it can become torture if you're forced to relive it enough times , and at that point he would not only have PTSD that makes normal PTSD look like a joke and , yes he could possibly take pleasure from all this but there's more , pleasure would have no worth to him since he would have overdosed on it so heavly , he would be dead inside to the point of Loyalists thinking that either he was lobotomized , playing or just a doppleganger , then they would realize that it's real Lucius and kill or even leave him out of pity .
Slaanesh can teleport Lucius or give him more power
If Kharn can destroy Terminators and Land Raiders so can Lucius
@@christiandauz3742 Now a question , what if all 4 Ahriman or Tzeentch and Lucius and Typhus and Kharn The Betrayer were to fight in free for all , who would have been last one standing ?
@@f.e.areproduce5298
Either Ahriman or Kharn
Chaos Gods would revive them all except Ahriman, he is on his own
@@christiandauz3742 Whould Khorne or Nurgle be more interested in Rage virus from 28 days and 28 weeks later ?
Or would neither of them be interested about it due to it looking too much like the other God's work ?
The sons of malice can also kill luscious since they have no souls not even humans feelings that is why they are good at facing sister of battle or any type of magical characters
Chosen of Khorne really no soul ? Like, Null-like no soul ?!
@ Thomas Alègre de la Soujeole malice or malal eats their soul and their feelings to make them more difficult to be corrupted by chaos or the emperor
looks an good way to make malal look cool
Necrons don't have souls yet lucius was still able to come back despite being killed by one
@@finnheisenheim8274
Silent king: I am a joke to you?
Give Trazyn a call and offer him a shiny trinket from someone you dont like anyway(like a weapon or suit of armor from a traitor or lost primarch) under the condition that he nabs Lucius to.
Now Trazyn may have standards on his collection, but even he should have the occasional closet he never enters.
The Silent King would kill Lucius then execute half his retinue for allowing Lucius to come within eye contact.
No pride, no joy, just annoyance he had to swat a fly.
If lucius mentions his ability he's basically setting himself up to be captured and have his stuff ANALyzed .
Slaanesh just ressurects Lucius and make him stronger
The Silent King would avoid Chaos as they can kill Necrons permanently
@@christiandauz3742 Or just go meh and find a new Champion. Slaanesh loves to get new toys.
@@f.e.areproduce5298 Indeed and he is gonna wish he did not run into the Silent King
Then he'd yell something about Not Serving.
Or wait, that's the other guy...
They just need to modify Lucious’s powers through some event. Maybe the Eldar cast some hyper strong anti-slannesh sorcery and Lucious is sent to stop them and takes the spell in Slannesh’s place. As a consequence, he loses most of his connection with Slannesh and has to adapt with different skills.
Could the Eldar defeat him by sticking him in a soulstone?
Ah yes.
Cato Sicarius could because his ego would overpower Lucius
his sheer pride would overpower the slaanesh curse
The sheer power of Matt Ward can defeat all comers.
@@PumpkinHoard coomers more like.
Lucius: _"Ha, you're doomed, you took pride in defeating me!"_
Cato: _"I, Cato Sicarius, take pride in everything i do, because i, Cato Sicarius am Cato Sicarius."_
_"And i, Cato Sicarius serve the imperium to the best of my ability, so i , Cato Sicarius take pride in everything i do, for i, Cato Sicarius do everything for the imperium."_
Slaanesh: _"Uhm Lucius.......his pride level is over 9000, soooooooooooooooo, you're fucked."_
Lucius: (ʘ‿ʘ)
Slaanesh: _"Sorry sweety, not in that way."_
Lucius: (ʘoʘ)
NIELS MICHIELS there’s more than one way to be chapter master.
I WANNA!
I WANNA! I WANNA! I WANNA!
The Slaanesh agent that put the crown, said that Guilliman would be cursed to never more feel pride.
so it would be an ironic victory to an chaos champion being being beaten by it's own's god's curse.
btw, celestine was close to being corrupted in her novel, but an custodes killed her to stop it before she ressurected as normal.
The concept behind his ability is cool but the execution in its use is rather poor to say the least
are you behind death.to.the.false.emperor ig?
Abaddon, Kharn, Typhus, Ahriman and Huron can kill Lucius...
...though Slaanesh can revive Lucius the old way
@@eyeballpapercut4400 no
@@christiandauz3742 yeah. I assume that most of the favored warriors of the various gods are basically protected from it by their gods
@@ShadowknightEX
Lucius can be revived the old fashion way. Revive his dead body like what happened to Typhus
Concept: Eldar farseer slaps a soulstone onto Lucius before dealing the killing blow. Lucius' soul goes into the stone, so he can't respawn. Hand it over to a Harlequin, he drops it off somewhere deep in the webway.
Who would take pride in killing Lucius? It's like beating up on a special needs, ginger, Australian, quadriplegic. And ain't nobody gonna take pride in that
Oi, you watch that Aussie bashing there mate 😂...🤨
@Abaddon The Despoiler+
Someone who is paralysed from the neck down (no use of legs OR arms). As opposed to a paraplegic, who is paralysed from the waist down (no use of legs, but can still use their arms).
I guess someone who is made a landmine
He claims to be a supreme duelest. But pretty much every other time he fights someone, he gets his ass kicked.
@@Canadian_Zac Indeed. Plus the fun way to beat Lucius without killing him is to cut off his arms and legs, then leave him alone beaten and humiliated. You can't kill him but you killed his pride.
"Here's how the fight would go: Big E would fart and lucius would be deleted out of existance"
I fucking lost it, lol
Boy you really want this perv to die? Majorkill: makes predictions of lucius's death
Lucius: Dies the way majorkill predicted
Majorkill: proud of this and happy
We all know where this is going...
Dante killed Lucius?
Majorkill predicts this and proceeds to commission enough warhammer hentai to gain slaneesh fervor
Yo who killed Lucius?
Just as planned
who killed Lucius???
You have an ogryn blindly kill him, then a commissar shames the ogryn, convincing the ogryn that he just killed a man who has a wife and kids, donates to charity, and does community service. The ogryn feels ashamed, cries a little, and goes on fighting with little memory of lucius
The commissar who commands the ogryn might turn into him
If I could add two to the list:
The Ledgion of the Damn: The fiery hand of the emperors wrath, at worst Lucius dies and does not come back, at best Lucius dies, his soul infects the Lotd Marine and the Emperors holy fire burns it to ask and soot.
A blank/pariah: Can't bound a souls to you if they don't have a soul and it is confirmed that the special shoulder cannon can straight up delete demons, so I could hope for that as well.
ancientgearsynchro
Welp, Sisters of Silence will stab Lucius through his anus through to his body with a sword
It doesn't matter, Lucius will just invent some excuse and say that the smith who made their weapons took pride in it. The only way to kill him is if someone does it while naked, with their bare hands.
Gustavo Sanches so doom slayer
@@soliar5209+
Exactly.
+
Legion of the Damned is a good one.
Unironically sly marbo and caiphas cain.
Sly marbo doesn't take pride in his job
Caiphas cain would just be sad about living through the battle and sucessfully killing a chaos champion
True, Sly is completely dead inside, this works.
It would be pretty cool if Saul Tarvitz was the one who killed lucius, Lucius was Saul's Friend and Saul would feel nothing but sadness for killing him
Did tarvitz survive isstvan? If I’m not mistaken, that dude is dead as a door nail
@@mcarrowtime7095 yes lucius himself killed him after tricking him into killing his own men. That was really sad.
@@holla6714 actually the one killed by Lucius was Solomon demeter
@@regimenpanteista4521 yeah I think you are right, how did he die i kind of forgot, been a few years.
@@holla6714 as far as i know it didn't say how he died, but most likely due to Horus' final orbital bombardment.
I appreciate that you added the robot at first, as the fact that it is the most reasonable of all the one you put considering the jumps and hoops the plot should go around to make Lucius fight any of the others, with the exception of a timely summoning of Celestine
It doesn't matter who kills Lucius, because Slaanesh is a god damn cheater and will find any excuse to resurrect his favourite Waifu.
Just put him in the imperial palace during the process of killing him ... And let a custodes do it.
Then now, Slaanesh has to somehow get through the Emperor in order to get him back, and he's not worth the hassle.
@@AAhmou I mean Slaanesh would propably just grant him Daemonhood or give him his body back anyway unless his soul gets destroyed .
Just bring back Lucius from the dead
@@f.e.areproduce5298 he did. Nykonna Sharrowkyn was the only person to “kill” Lucius cuz he took no joy in it nothing at all. Lucius was only able to come back cuz Slaneesh wanted him back
Have an Eldar Solitaire kill him. I just want to see what would happen since more often then not Slaanesh doesn’t even get their souls even though Solitaires are supposed to belong to Slaanesh
The Silent King one killed me harder than it would Lucius, had a good laugh
I could do it pretty easily
Emprah protects
Come back and fix your rotting empire you've had a long enough bathroom break
Yeah same
Pleeeeease my glorious golden god emperor!! I beggeth thee
You killed your sons dreams and sometimes even them in case of thunder Warriors so I believe you
Guilliman with the Emperor's Sword would be a pretty much guaranteed perma-kill considering the sword can obliterate demons completely. Tyrannids would be a hilarious pseudo-death though.
Lucius vs Dante is like a inverse fight between Escanor and Estarosa."I dont take pride in this as I just pity you"
At least the Escanor vs Estarosa fight wasn't completely one-sided
@@Aredel That is facts
@@beowulf4545 Ironic since we know who Estarossa really is
I wonder if Grimnar's Axe of morkai could beat the curse, since it was a chaos weapon forged for one of khorne's favorite champions and has proven instrumental in beating potentially unkillable foes such as Defeating a daemon primarch
I don’t remember it being Christmas
No Christmas, slaneshmas
Agonizing Turtle No Slanneshmas, but Sanguinial
In tts I am imagining Kaldor being too insane to realize or feel anything on killing lucius.
Russ would be proud of killing big things and was pissed and proud of his son Bjorn for killing a deamon which Russ wanted to kill...soo ironically if Russ heard lucious was an amazing swordsman he probably would take pride but dreadnaught Bjorn wouldn't feel pride as he just wants to be good enough for Russ
He would probably feel disappointment if he slayed Lucius, since the ugly bastard was hyped up to be an amazing swordsman, but Leman just killed him with a single backhand.
Bjorn's final death could be taking lucius with him
Bjorn isn't that great of a warrior Lucius would easily beat him
Lucius and Kharn learn from their mistakes. The same trick won't work on them twice
Lucius is a dumbass while Kharn is a swell guy
Bjorn the Fell Handed is one of the finest dreadnoughts in Imperial records, fighting with Leman Russ in the Great Crusade, and living beyond those he fought.
Imagine Lucius was just stepped on by a titan, no one would even known
Preferibly an imperator those are the oldest ones, and no mechanicus would get transformed
If they do decide to kill Lucius I'll think they'll do it with the perfect clone of Fulgrim. For him to see what path the original lead his sons down and what Lucius has become the Fulgrim clone would take absolutely no satisfaction in killing him, but he'd do it. And the writers at GW could get a lot of mileage out of a story building up to that climax.
I read somewhere that The Silent King can split planets in half with a single blow, due to his staff containing a portal that can send a near infinite amount of scarabs through it.
I still think Cain is a strong candidate. Lucius would know that Cain is a pretty good swordsman by human standards and decide to go kill him (because after all, a regular human is just no match for an astartes in a duel). The fight would be pretty predictable, with Lucius basically just toying with him while Cain desperately tries to defend himself. Lucius gets cocky and tunnel-visions right up until Jurgen blows his head off with his trusty melta. Jurgen feels no pride because he just doesn't give a damn and has saved Cain exactly that way like... 50 times, and hey he's also a blank so maybe that matters.
Or Cain manages to slay him and attributes it to Lucius getting distracted by Jurgen and sheer dumb luck.
Even if Cain delivered the killing blow because he's always protected by Jurgen's blank aura would never be far enough from him to be affected by the curse. Also even though Cain shows acts the part ofa herofull of bravado and bluster. He's actually quite humble believing he's a coward who's deserving of execution and is just doing his best to avoid it.
Cain is no match for a normal Space Marine
@@christiandauz3742 Cain litterally held his own against a Khornate Chaos marine. The man is not quite the coward and impostor he himself thinks he is.
@@christiandauz3742 He is the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM. Never underestimate him, lol
Got one idea that may work. If Lucius is killed by a being that takes pride in it, intentionally, if they are able to resist being overwritten by Lucius they may be able to imprison him within themselves. It would prevent him from resurrecting, at least until that host dies or is finally corrupted by the demonic possession. Not much but it’s something.
Every necron character with more IQ then a canopteck scarab: Throw Lucious into a Tesseracht Labyrint. He will die by bordom. Or better let Trazyn cath him.
Trazyn does not collect trash.
@@Tacoguy1000 Nice
Why kill Lucius when you can simply "gift" him to Trazyn the Infinite?
Until trazyn lets him go for shits and giggle
"Ah hell nah man he's not worth remembering"
-Trazyn the Infinite
I don’t want him
Trazyn: i don't collect garbages
@@discotech6178 That's a good point you got there.
A Culexus assassin could take all the pride in the galaxy but CAN'T be touched by a warp based curse
Would the Sisters of Silence be immune because they are “soulless”?
Probably.
Sadly no, since he even could regenerate inside a necron. You know those beings withou any traces of their soul because it was eaten. So yeah sadly lucius is immortal
No, SoS have never True Death a Daemon
There are only SEVEN examples of True Death
@@christiandauz3742 Blank is a Blank and Daemons hate Blanks for they nullify their Warp fuckery
Considering the fact that they're basically female custodes, they probably wouldn't even give a shit, or might even do it by accident.
Maybe demon primarch Angron? I would say that he is far too angry to feel real pride. Also, not sure whether the transformation would work on someone who is basically a greater daemon.
plus converting angron would piss khorne off
I doubt any Primarch would consider killing Lucius impressive. They're Primarchs, he's nothing to them.
Lucius would straight up have PTSD with the Tyranids, having flashbacks of the Megarchnids.
I mean even if all he experienced was pleasure it would spell one horrible fate to him , no mortal or even daemon pleasure would give him any meaningful satisfaction , he would no longer care about anything and would just blow his brains out afterwards due to everything losing meaning , action and everything would lose it's appeal due to how big of overdose he would have taken , and how much of mighty tolerance he would have built up before he's gone through 1 % of hive's creatures .
@@f.e.areproduce5298 also, the hive fleet would not lose the bio mass,
While two tyranids are being possesed, killed and dragged into the acid pool by the tyranid that killed it, amd said tyranid killed aswell by the new tyranid out of said biomass, repeating the cycle.
The rest of the fleet would be doing as usual
@@iamafuckingfailure So Lucius being fucked would not even fuck the Hive Fleet, it would straight up keep fucking Lucius till he wants to blow his own brains out, because of how much tolerance he would build to endless pleasures of death.
Another character that could permanently kill Lucius would be Epistolary Sabazius of the Exorcists chapter, because he can attack the soul of any creature directly. And without a soul, there would be nothing that Slaanesh could move to continue the curse.
What if, instead of killing Lucius, you just strand him on a barren planet?
Slanesh will probably open a warp portal for his depraved arse.
Better to put him in Stasis. With a fuck ton of Wards and nulls under the Grey knights Fortress on Titan.
Technically whoever placed him there would take pride in the victory so...
Yeah but he isn’t dead so technically he couldn’t reincarnate
@@antoinecyr2833 fair point. But what if the barren planet kills him somehow. Planet lucius sounds great but everything is screwed at that point.
@@skepticalmagos_101 or Trazyn make an exhibit out of him.
C"tan: "It's so sad Sanguinius died of ligma.
Lucius: "Who the hell is Sanguinius?"
C'tan: "Ligma balls."
So I made a thread on r/40klore on my nominee for “Who can permakill Lucius:” Ciaphas Cain.
That mofo is so moody about everything he accomplishes he will never feel joy no matter how much he’s praised.
Contingency plan: take him to a black ship and feed him to the Emperor
Ciaphas Cain: _"I don't even know how it happened!"_
_"I was just driving as fast as i could away from the battlefield, i felt a bump, i ignored it and drove further till i ran out of Promethium."_
_"A patrol found me and when i thought my suffering would finaly end, and i would be tried and punished for the coward i am, THEY PRAISE ME FOR FOR KILLING LUCIUS THE ETERNAL!"_
*_"WHEN WILL THIS CHARADE END?!!"_*
@@nielsmichiels1939 and then Astra Militarum choirs tts style
Yo why do you hate the emperor so much?
Marvelous
Why kharn did not go against Cain I mean he is a great hero and a decent fighter and after this kharn will going to get his skull
If Sly Marbo kills Lucious, they would not know if he takes prides, but only hear Sly Marbo's scream.
I have a theory that Clone Fulgrim could take Lucius out.
My thinking is that since Clone Fulgrim regrets his other self’s falls to Chaos, he would be Lucius as the ultimate representation of it, and see him as so lowly and disgusting he would take no pride in killing him.
How to kill Lucius: just be some rando who had never heard of him, and press the orbital bombardment button while in orbit.
Imagine not letting your citizens go to the countryside away from all the people just to make them go back into the city where there’s thousands of more people.
Lucious: Haha no one can permanently kill me!
Sly Marbo: *Exists*
Lucious: oh no...
Oh boy I came early. Guess MKill has that effect on people
this made me spit out my vodka
Tyranid kills Lucius
Creates hive mind Lucius
Bunch of lucious men running around the Galaxy now
The only type of Character that would Kill Lucios would be a Blank, then.
Not really but they most likely would.
Somebody get a Sister of Silence.
Or you know, be like Guilliman or Dante. Seriously, living in a world full of war and and daemons could really remove your pride, especially for Guili boy, as he is just really disgusted, not prideful. Also be like Saint Celestine
@@patcatzgames9792
Sign me up for Khorne because I disagree with that.
@@patcatzgames9792 Slaanesh can just bring him back the usual way for daemons
Actually I think Culexus Assassin can also permanently kill him. They can namely destroy other beings soul. Unless the lore has been chanced Chaos can't resurrect those whom souls have been destroyed. The primarch Horus is good example with this.
Don’t forget jergen
the easiest way to delete lucius is for eldrad or somebody similar in psychic power to re direct hive fleet kronos (the hive mind's anti chaos hive fleet) into slaneshi space and then just wait for him to die forever due to the extreme shadow in the warp going on fucking with chaos doing anything
the best part of this video is
"khorn has bitch-slapped slaanesh on more than one occasion"
Meme marines, because they hate themselves so much, that they wanna die. If one of them kills Lucius, he will just cry, that he didn't die this time too.
14:29 You forgot to mention that the Ctan are basically anathema to the warp so even if they aren't too powerful for the curse, it just straight up wouldn't work on them.
Also any culexus assassin would work for the same reason.
Majorkill I've loved your videos for ages. And in the future I hope you do a Space Marine vs video against the Guardians from Destiny.
Nice idea. Imo few space marines would be equipped to destroy a Ghost, hence they wouldn’t be able to permakill the Guardian. It would be a long tenuous process of the space marines armor being whittled down, or they just get nova bombed at the start
@@clueless2001 ikr because of the immortality a space marine would have a hard time dealing with the guardian, and the fact that a ghost can heal them indefinitely
I like the idea of the emperor killing Lucius without even knowing, sounds like a TTS skit
Cawl. One of Cawl's personalities might still feel pride, assuming they had enough sense of self left to have emotions or even sapience....but that just means that Lucius regens as a brain in a jar or as a bit of corrupted code in a cogitator implant. Eitherway, he's stuck...
...and that's assuming Cawl would feel pride in personal combat and not just see it as another variable in a long string of computational strategy. Solar Atomize and move on. Also, he's old AF since he was born pre-heresy, probably about as old Lucius if not older, so the Dante/Silent King/Eldrad age thing could also come into play.
Cawl would be like "Ther are things that can be done which will be better solutions for champions of Chaos Gods, servitors for Sisters of Silence, making you an Eversor Assasin or something similar, imprisonment in life support that doubles as prison, so many choices tell me honestly, which do you prefer?".
I always thought that if someone had balls of steel and perfect timing they could kill Lucius and then instantly set off a ton of explosives so that even though Lucius takes their body he is also atomised by several thousand kilograms of explosives with no one else to take.
If the doom of malantai was still around It'd just straight up vore his soul, and all slannesh could do is watch Lucious get disintegrated into the hive mind like an LSD infused gummy bear being ripped apart by a swarm of ants
it now has its genes passed on to neurothropes
I’d wonder how the clone of Fulgrim would do with killing Lucius. He’d probably stomp him because yeah he’s a Primarch and would see disgust in killing him, viewing him as a failure of the old Fulgrim and as a mistake that must be removed.
Hands down it has to be Dante. But if they dare to pull some bs on him I'll ride a baneblade to their HQ with malicious intent.
9:03 did majorkill just say “Big E” 3 times in a row? Surely something must have happened after that chant
Australia is apparently a police state now.
The state of Victoria is the heaviest police state. The rest are still deciding to be, or not to be, a police state.
Tyberos wouldn't even take pride in it, he would just punch him once
Any Blood Angel succumbing to the black rage would do, Dante preferably.
C’mon man... no one wants to see Dante succumb to the Black Rage unless it involves him finally fulfilling his prophecy and saving the Emperor in the process. And frankly, I don’t think anything Lucius is capable of would qualify as threatening the Emperor.
Lemartes?
I had to stop and laugh for a second when you labeled the Primarchs as 'Weaponized Mental Health Issues.' Good show as usual!
What about the clone of Fulgrim? He is a primarch but we also know that the clone is uncorrupted and feels disgust for the version of him that turned. He might would probably feel pity for Luscious as he would remember how he used to be and guilt because Fulgrim would blame himself.
I know you mentioned primarchs but you only mentioned Guillimon. A more interesting encounter would be the clone of Fulgrim vs Luscious.
I think Fabius Bile could kill Lucius. If Lucius were one of his experiments and he died as a result, bile would probably be more sad to lose the material than pride
Lucius told to a random cultis, "tell me: I want you to kill X"
Lucius dies...
Random Cultis: Did I send Lucius to die?
Slanesh:... good enough.
This intro is genuinely hilarious and leads into the content so well
To this I'd like to add Oan Mkoll from the Tanith First and Only, I've started to suspect the man is some kind of avatar of death, and the Chaos forces are basically convinced of this.
You forget that if a landmine crafter was able to be taken the why not the man who made the sword or pistol or the people that smelted the metal or mined it.
Such a sweet video. You give me ten good ways to imagine this motherless bastard's death. Made my day, thank you, Majorkill!
Tyranid solution for respawning Lucius - the unit which killed him immediately jumps into digestive pool.
The primarch one just makes me think of Lucius as one of the nameless soldiers in Dynasty Warriors
"Lucius' soul would taste like rotten c*ck and they would not take pride in consuming it."
From one Aus to another; thanks for the laugh. Epic.
The only reason Sharrowkyn wasn't possessed and consumed, was because he was the very first to kill Lucius when he was still mortal.
You read his quote, right? He literally said, he didn't take pride in killing lucius.
@@fearlessbird9422 The quote is irrelevant. If you read the book you'd realize that Lucius wasn't even a champion of Slaanesh when Sharrowkyn killed him. Doesn't matter if he took pride in not or not because Lucius was just a normal Astartes when he died.
... im so happy I just so happened to stumble on your channel ... perhaps one of the best 40k channels on youtube
Would definetly like the concept of the dipshit being mutilated unto non existence by individuals and the deathbot and every other being known and unknown in lore and fan stories
Also vulcan would not be corrupted by lucius because he is love incarnate and pride is non existent to him
Also love the fact you said on celestine 10/10 would let her purge me LETS BE HONEST HERE WE ALL WANT TO BE PURGED BY HER
"The Big E would fart and Lucius would be deleted from the universe forever."
I don't know why that hit me so hard but I laughed for a good 5 minutes.
9:13 Lucius won't be able to posess anyone if his soul gets " Horus " treatment .
9:42 was the best one yet