Fender Johnny Marr Jaguar vs American Vintage '65
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When searching for a new Jaguar I had the opportunity to compare the American Vintage '65 to the Johnny Marr Jaguar. In this video I play three different riffs on all the pickups.
Gear used:
-Fender Johnny Marr Jaguar chckt.co/33kAO
-Fender American Vintage '65 Jaguar chckt.co/33kAP
-Diamond Compressor chckt.co/33kAq
-Fulltone OCD chckt.co/33kBv
-Strymon Big Sky chckt.co/33kBu
-Bogner Duende 15w chckt.co/33kBw
-Vox AC15 H1TV
FINALLY!!!!Someone who knows how to A/B guitars properly!!!Great job
Completely agree - that was a pleasure both to listen to & watch. The first 21 sec were a nice teaser to this surf player. I like the switching layout of the JM but, alas, AV65 all the way for the pickups. Again, TERRIFIC job.
Not sure, the gain are not matched correctly on the amp, the Marr with the BK pickup attack clearly more the amp...
Yes! So many videos just have 30 seconds of random playing. We need quick A / B comparisons no longer than 10 seconds long for each segment.
Nice playing & a good comparison. Both are fantastic. Marr’s Jag is really well rounded on the frequency train. Less treble & harshness. 65 is obviously more “True” to a vintage Jag. I would love to own both but my vote goes to the Marr.
Outrageous tones. Man I want a Jaguar. Seems like a great instrument for chimy rhythm playing.
And this, ladies and gentleman, is how a really good demo is done...
Both sound great. I don't know if it's because the 65 is louder in the video or just more trebly but I think that is why people are liking it more. When you hear it in real life, the Johnny Marr is trebly but not too trebly and sounds just right. Like I said though, both sound fantastic. PS...I have the Johnny Marr and I chose it over many other non Strats and Teles because I loved the sound..and the feel...and Johnny Marr.
the johnny mar one seems more compressed and less trebly. sounds really good honestly, but the 65 definitely has the TRUE jag tone. as much as the brightness might bother some people, thats just their nature. i also dont like how the johnny mar one feels because the bridges are usually much higher, and the mustang bridge is fine but for some reason the 65 is much lower in placement usually.
If you put the volume knob on the 65 at around 9 you'll be in the ballpark of the Johnny Marr tone
Bridge can be adjust? Maybe johnny marr neck is being shimmed ?
@@pstrokeslibsarctic Johnny Marr has the mustang saddles - i think they are too widely spaced
@@itaintmebabe714 precisely! I have a 60s classic lacquer Jag and if I roll off both the tone and volume a hair it sounds exactly like the Marr Jag
@EndofMusic he also runs a chorus. I’m bit of a Marr fan and use some of his sounds to make my own tunes up. If you set the guitar to be a bit more rounded and less trebly then engage the chorus it lifts it again and adds a bit of higher end/clarity back in but doesn’t sound too thin 👌
Both sound great, the Marr is more well rounded, where as the 65 seems to be harsher and have more extreams between settings. for me im shooting for the 65, but the marr is definitely cool. heck id like to have both
I like them both equally definitely different tones. I'm more of a strat guy never really payed attention to the Jags but after this demo and all the tones out of them I'm in.
So glad I bought the Johnny Marr signature. 🤩
Dude!!! Are you the one who bought the last one on Fender.com?
@@adrianfumi No, I bought it in L.A. Sam Ash in 2018
@@cosmojonesmusic That's killer man! I was debating on getting the Olympic White, but really didn't want another Olympic White guitar. As I put it in the cart, I went back to the page to get a strap, and as I clicked back on the cart, it was no longer available. Haha!
Position #4 on the Johnny Marr is : both pickups in SERIES (not in parallel).
They both sound good but the Marr sounds really sweet to my ears. Just personal preference of course.
Absolutely fantastic comparison video! One of the best on RUclips for sure. Thank you sir, your hard work is much appreciated.
Does anyone else think that the Johnny Marr has a wee bit of Jazzmaster tone?
I'm not saying it sounds like a Jazzmaster but it sounds somewhat more mellow in the regular settings (I mean no filters or parallel et cetera). Again, I reiterate as a Jazzmaster player that it doesn't sound exactly like one, however I hear a mellowness which isn't in the av or a Strat et cetera.
By the way, both sound good, and I applaud the demo.
Cheers.
+Paul Crane I think you are right, im getting on wed and hope it satisfies my longing got a Jazzmaster
The Marr one is a bit more dark/mellow. If you see the video of him talking about the guitar, he said It actually has a second bass cut filter because the neck pickup is very dark and sometimes need it.
But yeah, I'm a Jazzmaster player too and it doesn't sound like one but it does a slightly more mellow tone you can find in a Jazzmaster
Yeah, the Bare Knuckle pickups he's got in his sig are darker than typical "vintage" spec Jaguar pickups. As you say, the 2nd Hi-Pass filter is because the series position can be too dark.
I like what Johnny Marr's done with his signature model. He's one of the few people that has genuinely put a lot of thought into what he wants from a guitar bearing his name, what works and doesn't work for him, yet it's also something that isn't just for playing like him.
Hear hear.
I played many guitars over the years and finally spilled for a vintage jag. There just is no substitute.
They both sound great. The 65 seem overall brighter and hotter output, which I honestly like here in the A/B test. I imagine you could tweak amp settings to get one to sound more like the other, so I guess it's really a tough call.
It was a pleasure for my contact with you in the Musikmesse 2014.
You're feeling playing the guitar is amazing and beautiful, also you tone is fantastic.
I like videos you have!!
Big hug!!
Hansel.
Thanks a lot for uploading this! I didn´t have a chance to try the ´65 Jaguar, but this comparison convinced me that I really like
its more "distorted" kind of voice. I view the Marr Jag as the ultimate version for live playing, due to its little changes in techni- cal design. But these models also sound different enough to complement each other perfectly. Great guitars, and great taste!
Very comprehensive and tasteful video. Much appreciated. Even listening through my monitors, I was surprised and how fundamentally similar they sounded at times (especially the bridge), though I did prefer the middle and neck positions slightly more in the Marr version. The darker midrange sound of the Marr model seems like it would hold together a bit better for mixing and live situations. The high pass circuit seemed much more pronounced in the '65, though.
I take it the '65 has the original bridge?
On a wholly unrelated topic: I like that shirt.
Love these riffs you play!
thanks for taking the time to do this. the marr is so much more the sound i am going for, in every position.
GREAT review. There's no question the 65' has more sponginess overall in the tone, but I own the Johnny Marr and the pickup switch is by far the most amazing feature. Try switching from the neck to the bridge in the middle of a song right before a chorus hits, because that's precisely what I do with the JM. It's incredibly versatile in that sense. The pickups are wound to be more warm and round compared to the bright 65'. I think they are both amazing guitars and serve different purposes
I went with the Johnny Marr as well, and it was because of the mods as well. The 65 is great, but like you said, the JM kind of addressed the Jag brightness. If you hear it in a range of styles it'll really surprise you.
The high pass filter riff is fire 🔥
Great playing! Love em both..
I am glad I bought the Johnny Marr Jaguar. Sounds fantastic.The 65' is too bright for me. Great video man. Well done.
Thanks!
Very good A B demo. Really easy to tell the difference. Question though: is it the fourth position on the Johnny Marr series instead of parallel?
EverQuest Next that 65 model is lovely, love the finish, the JM seems a bit darker. Both have their charms id say
Superb comparison. So.simple, so effective. Awesome stuff.
Oh this is how to do it. Excellent.
The only sensible option is to buy both!
Rhythm Circuit is awesome. The 65 has a wider range of extremes between the bright bridge & beautiful mellow Rhythm Circuit !
Its about damn time I found a demo of this thing through a vox
I’ve played US Jags and the Marr. I loved the sound of them both in isolation. But in this test the 65 has the chiming bell-like Jag thing, the Marr darker, almost muffled.
Both sounded pretty close. They both look and sound incredible. Great job!
65 Jaguar is an awesome tone machine. Love the rhythm circuit. Drastic tone differences like having two guitars!
So I wanted to hear ‘ both pickups in series’ I know from the video with Johnny Marr that it exists on his Jaguar.
The main thing I prefer on the JM Jag is the pickup selector switch. The standard Jaguar one is a bit too fiddly for me, especially when playing live. I prefer the sound of the AVRI though. Decisions decisions!
I love the surf stuff on the intro! Cool. Makes me want to get a '65 Jaguar and not a '59 Strat!
Very good comparison. This is the way it is done!!!
Great job! The Sherwood Green looks marvelous!
whats that 1st riff from holy goddddd
I would build my own with a Tele bridge set-up and Dimarzio Area T pickup in the rear and a Area 61 Strat pickup in the front. Then I would hide a PAF in the middle under the pickguard (stealth mode!) and use the top controls strictly for the middle pickup. And I'd put in a Switchcraft Les Paul style toggle on the bottom. Now _that_ would be a guitar to reckon with.
Surprised by how much I preferred the '65 on the compressed and distorted settings. Not sure there's too much between them on the clean and they both worked as unique sounds on the first track, so it's really more about different flavours than one sounding 'better' for me.
Pickup switching system in the Marr is so much easier for the live player - if you don’t like the sound as much, swap the pickups!
Very good job indeed!!!
Well, Johny Marr's model cuts the high frequencies but if you have a band which performs 60s songs you must choose the original one.
Additionally these filters that make Jaguar sound more bassie may be good for jazz themes.
Finally I would say that Jaguar with it's 610mm scale length could be my travel guitar.
Brilliant , not just some boring blues scale
I would love to see a comparison between the Johnny Marr Jaguar and the new jaguar from the professional series fender is making for 2017 ( if you ever get your hands in one of those ) ;)
The riff in the first 21 secs is so awesome. It gives me Tarantino movie feel all over. Is it a actual song?
No.
Wow. From 0:25 to 1:44 are some of the best clean sounds I've ever heard. Is the compressor pedal on during this whole time?
If you put the volume knob on the 65 at around 9 you'll be in the ball park of the Johnny Marr tone
Give me the bridge sound of the Johnny, with the neck sound of the AVRI, and I’m done. Perfec.
they both have a great sound to me just a little bit of a difference I run a 63model and it sounds the same as the 65
‘65 for me...I feel like it has more of what you want if you want a Jag.
Would love to see the Johnny Marr in a shoot out with a vintera HH.modified Jaguar same as you have done.here
Very hard decision to make. Both are freaking awesome guitars. Johnny Marr series looks like more vintage tone to me and perhaps has a better visual (this green tone is incredible). But this ice blue really changed my mind. It has a wilder tone, more harmonics and more depth.
Two 'similar shades' of sound. Marr edition higher treble style.
Have you had a chance to try the American Professional jaguars? Any thoughts on how they compare to the Marrguar?
I like the brightness off the 65, but it has some harsh mids. The JM lacks the bright edge, but it also lacks the harsh mids, sounding more balanced overall.
i like the green color. i am reading that that was a limited edition.
Man that Johnny "F'n" Marr jag just sings. Not harsh at all. But Hand In Glove will never sound the same as the original recording.
Great video and great job ! I was asking myself what's the difference... now I know ! the 65 is the best for me, but really too expensive :(
as close as they sound I'd be happy with either of the two.if I want a little bit more of this or that I'd twist the knobs on my 59 twin
+Krusty Buzzard lucky man !
urgobenz ?.what's lucky
Buy a used one, both go for around 1250-1350 used
urgobenz I don't know what you mean.lucky what?
My love for a jaguar would not be broken😃😍
I suppose it's hard to tell, because apart from the pickups in both guitars maybe being different, it sounds like the blue guitar has higher value pots....
Big fan of The Smiths and some of Marr's post Smiths work but I have to say the American Vintage '65 I like better. Sounds better.
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These are great but I'm also leaning towards an Italia or Burns.
Quite ironic that the Marr issue is actually a warmer sounding guitar. Some man for one man.
I love 90's. I love distortion, I love Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, but also love clean tones.... Wich Jaguar do you recommend?
( I prefer Jaguars than Jazzmaster, because of the scale... ) Thank you!!!
Same here! But honestly for brighter tone I’d say 65 jag over Jm. Though jm has a beautiful clean tone itself, so hard to choose.
The Marr has such a weird sounding neck pup. It also combines with the bridge in a very “strat” way. I would say I slightly prefer the tones of the Marr but I can’t deny the looks and tone of the ‘65 which sounds way Jaggier.
I like the bridge pickup on the Johnny Marr better, but everything else I prefer the '65.
the 65 is brighter, fuller, and more distinct. the high end is really emphasized and bleeds out nicely. not sure if its partly your set up though. i've heard the Marr version sound better. here though it sounds a bit dull.
some of the "in parallel" you should have written "in series"
Yep.
I like darker tone, johnny marr to me...they both sounds beautiful...
I'll take the green one, although the mint green pick guard looks nice on it, I would put a Tortoise pick guard on it
How about another demo with the 65 AVRI Jaguar vs. the 60s Classic Lacquer Jag?
I don't own the 65 AVRI; I just had it for a couple of days to compare it to the Johnny Marr Jaguar.
very good
Of the "4 foundational Fenders" the Jaguar was the one I never owned, until now. The re-imagining of the Jaguar, via the Johnny Marr Signature Model, totally changed my mind on these. So much more dynamics & depth, warmth where there was once brittleness. A truly revolutionary design with such versatility for a guitar that once an also ran Fender for me...
I just got a used Olympic White one at a steal of a price. But... I had to, because... the neck is a baseball bat & I had to not only have the gloss taken off the back (almost always do that), but also have it reshaped & thinned out a bit. Also, while this is the best vibrato on any Fender offset ever (equal to the Mastery, which I have on my Jazzmaster) the bridge isn't even up to StayTrem level...and regardless, the Mastery Bridge is a must for me (that or the dreaded Gibson tune-o-matic mod). My only other issue is that this is just short of Les Paul level heavy (well a light Les Paul, but still...just part of why I'm an SG & ES or Epiphone Casino guy). My Telecaster was at the edge of how heavy a guitar I was willing to deal with because I loved it so much, but this Jaguar is the new heavy weight champ...and I think mine is on the lighter side.
Curious if the Vintage '65 weighs as much as the Johnny Marr signature. I was totally Blessed with getting a Jazzmaster that's built around an authentic, '63 body that's aged into being very light (even slightly lighter than my Stratocaster)- for the record the rest of the Frakenparts Jazzmaster are a custom ebony fretboard neck, Mastery Bridge & Vibrato and Seymour Duncan Antiquity pickups (the I's, not the II's, based on the earlier '58 to '63 Jazzmaster pickups- darker, creamier & beefier, but still all Jazzmaster- the most underrated guitar ever!)
The Marr Jag pickups are wired in series and same polarity. It definitely sounds beefier.
Hey Johnny you really should listen to Northern New Mexico Music we all danced to this our sound n your style of music. Honestly. Give it a listen. It's truly your style of of music. Even my grandsons girlfriend plays this style. I started playing at 11 years old between my Father n Grandmother. I've always played this style.
I'll take the Johnny Marr Jag thanks!
good, except for a part with the JM Jag you showed two seperate "Both pickups in parallel" bits, one was the normal setting you get on jags for parallel pickups that both models have, but the second one you titled "both pickups in parallel JM only", well that's incorrect. The pick ups aren't in parallel when you switch to that 2nd mode, it's a mode where "both pickups are in series" not parallel.
slightly more bass on johnny's, seems like the bass string pick-up has more gain and the middle-high slightly less
Is that a Yamano special order AVRI jag? Nice dude.
JAZZMASTER Vs. JAGUAR???? Wich is better for 90's music, like Dinosaur Jr?? I know JMascis uses Jazz' s but it is really the aproppiate??thanks
does it matter that the tone knobs aren't the same? woudnlt that effect the outcome?
sounds pretty equal does weezer use jaguars? silver blue snarls awesomely
That's what I call a good comparaison beetween 2 guitars.
I agree with other comments that the JM sounds a bit darker or like some say a bit warmer. To me it's a bit too dark. The brighter sound of the 65 to me sounds stronger like it has more presence and clearly a higher quality than the JM and would explain partly the much higher price. That said its doesn't justify the $650 higher price. Is the JM Jaguar made in USA or made in Mexico? To Evert Zeevalkink, very good video and very much appreciated. Are you in the position to make a video like this one comparing a Vintage 65 Jaguar w a Vintage 65 Jazzmaster but also compare each with a 52 reissue Tele? I know that's a lot to ask but I have all of them on my wish list but budget wise I can pick one only and no stores here carry all 3 guitars.
June Moris The Johnny Marr Jaguar is USA made.
As for the darker sound... the pickups in it (made by Bare Knuckle, exclusive to this guitar, and BK pickups never come cheap anyway) are based on a set in a vintage Jag that Marr liked, for their darker tone.
There's a few unique things with this guitar that bump the price up, not just the name. Johnny Marr's one of the few guitarists that has a signature model where he's actually put some thought into it, rather than just giving his name to an ordinary model.
for me .... the jaguar Marr .. but with Lollar pickups ...
american original jag vs johny narr?
65 is brighter and the Johnny Marr one sounds a little darker and fuller. Both sound great though.
great video! what's the differences between the necks?
Some of the nicest tones i've heard from a Jaguar..
I have the impression that they can be a bit icepick-y. But I don't hear it here at all even though your tone knob is at 10.
Do you cut the treble with your amp's EQ?
chinesename Actually I almost never touch the dail on my amp. I do set the tone knob on my compressor to 12.00 while it's around 2.00 when playing my tele. It's not a big change though.
difference in neck profiles?
Nice!
dude i so much want to buy a sherwood green ... any idea where i could find one ?
I think I'll hang on to my 63 I was thinkin about selling it
Im keeping mine although I might change the radius to9or so as it frets out a little at times
Same strings and pots wide open on both rite
does anyone know what the riff from 1:45 is? I would like a tab, sounds awesome!!!
I have a squier vintage modified jag with stock pickups, would you say the '65 pickups would be a great upgrade? I think the stock pickups sound dull
Love your channel! Great job, very creative stuff! Are you working as a music producer? If not, you should.