Hi Scott, Thanks for introducing me to this PE foam mod. I have finally got my Tofu60 aluminium case to sound awesome. Case foam is installed in the battery compartment and below the PCB with the magic PE foam between the PCB and plate. Plate is Polycarbonate, switches are Boba U4T (stock) and keycaps are GMK WoB with Durock V2 stabs. I have also drilled out the two centre posts and just used the outer 4 screws. I did have PCB foam but to be honest the board did not sound great so I just removed it and just have the PE foam mod. It now sounds fantastic and I will also do the same when my KBD67 Lite arrives.
PE foam is trending hard rn, it makes keebs sound poppy and creamy. Although I don't think the alu case is quite worth the price, would much rather get something like a Neo Element G67. Not a fan of the space on the upgrade, sounds a bit hollow.
@@Keybored yeah haha hollow has been the issue with most non-plastic kbdfans boards, esp the low-mid price tier. But on the bright side more colors are coming for the plastic 67 lite which does its job well enough.
i just want to take a moment to thank you for introducing me to the PE foam mod, never heard of it until i watched your gmmk pro mod video. Im baffled by how well it works
PSA about that switch opener; don't use it for long-pole switches! It will poke the stem through the bottom of a U4T, for example. I couldn't resist buying the case myself - and I do like it. Definitely changes the character of the board - you trade the deep thocky sound and bouncy character for a more clacky sound and being super-planted on the desk. It is a lot less forgiving of unlubed or poorly lubed stabs, though! Also TIL V2 Gateron Caps are a thing
i also read that reddit post where the guy poked a hole through the bottom housing then i watched the Andy Nguyen video where he pretty much exerted all his strength and it didn't poke a hole
@@daegan00 I also have the transparent one and I too dislike the RGB flooding thru all around the case so I just keep it off. I'll be getting an FR4 plate the same time I get the alu case and slap on my beloved Susuwatari caps on top of some Boba U4T.
Thanks for clarifying this. I saw this case on divinkey and was wondering if it would work. Also thanks for linking the fr4 plate. I've been kinda disappointed in mine but I have milky cap v1 and are not bad. Hopefully these upgrades with fix my kbd67.
It's definitely a change from the stock KBD67 LITE. I don't know if it's truly an upgrade, since you do pay a lot for the aluminum, and it changes the type of sound it makes, but doesn't really "upgrade" it per se.
I've actually been wondering if the kbd67 mkII soldered pcb would work with the kbd67 lite products. I asked kbdfans before they said it isn't compatible but I don't see why it wouldn't work apart from maybe the USB c either being too long or short
Tofu65 with your o-ring mod and PE foam mod, or this? I already bought the Tofu65, and all the stuff to mod it. I really wanted the KBD67 Lite R2, and it actually came back in stock 2 days after I bought the Tofu65. Timing sucks sometimes.
I think they're different. The kbd67 is considered a "upgrade" vs the tofu, but the tofu65 with the o ring is also so good... I think the tofu with o ring actually has a softer typing feel than this, but this has a lower case front so it's more comfortable to type without a wrist rest
The V3 has very very little flex... I would say that theoretically, the V3 is supposed to be a softer keyboard. But in practice, I would say the O-Ring TOFU may actually be a softer typing experience.
I feel like a $160 case upgrade to a $109 board just seems conceptually backward. I'd rather they just make a silicone dampener for the KBD67 Lite, or maybe I might do a silicone pour myself. Alternatively I might just leave mine as is, since I've dampened all my other boards so the KBD67 Lite can stay as my test thocky/loud board.
They do have a silicone case dampener for the kbd67 lite. It's pretty new but it's on kbdfans kbdfans.com/collections/kbd67-lite/products/r2-kbd67-lite-bottom-case-silicone
@@rks5457 Oh Really? I totally missed that that existed. Now I've got to think up some other things I need to put together a KBDfans order since shipping isn't typically cheap. Does the existence of this kind of change the value proposition of the base KBD67 Lite vs the NK95 and the Portico. To get it to actual parity with those, since they both come with Silicon wedges, the KBD67 Lite technically costs $127 which puts it closer to the Portico cost and puts more distance between it and the NK65. Interesting.
Then you'd really dislike it stock haha. But in real life is not too bad with the pe. I was looking for ways to silence it a bit because it was loud for me lol
I just assembled my KBD67 Lite and I did not like the plastic case as I am coming from an alloy Tofu. I liked the sound but not the weight or look plus I did not like the way it bent in the middle while typing. I think this was because of the rubber feet. Just installed the V3 alloy case and it is much better. Feels and looks much better and I may even get that brass weight. I did not try the case stock and PE foam modded it straight away. Does anyone know if you can ditch the mute silicone as I feel this board is muted compared to my modded Tofu. Switches are U4Ts and GMK WoB.
If you're talking about the center silicone later, unfortunately, that helps to keep the plate up, so no. You can remove any of the muting under the pcb though
@@Keybored Thanks Scott. How about installing D60 foam gaskets on the plate? I think an FR4 plate with the mute silicone removed and V3 case would be end game for this board.
@@Keybored Correct! It's a bit muted and the gasket foam isn't the best, it would be interesting to see it with better gaskets (ex: d65), standoffs removed and with pe foam even tape mod! Would be pretty cool to watch!
@@Keybored thanks for the response, bought a Tofu65 & Alpaca V2s, so keen! Inspired by your tofu o-ring mod, convinced me to build one. Thanks for the content 😁
Great vid! I tried the PE foam mod on my board thanks to you and it made a huge difference! I was wondering though.... is plate foam necessary to do this mod? Would it still make such a big difference without plate foam? Would it work if I just put PE foam and nothing else between the PCB and plate?
I’m looking to build my first 65 keyboard, simply upgrading from a Ducky one 2 mini. Tofu 65 case or this KD67 v3 case? The price different isn’t an issue!
Hmmm... That's a tough one. Technically, the kbd67 v3 is the better board... But it's super stiff considering that it's a gasket. Tofu on the other hand is old school tray mount... But becomes nice with o ring mod... If you want to mod it, tofu has more mod ability. Tofu with pom plate and o ring mod is pretty fantastic. If you want to use it fairly stock, the kbd67 v3 but stick with the PC plate.
Scott, I really hope you see this and can help me out - I 100% bought the v3 aluminum case after watching dozens of these videos (esp this one from you) but I HATE the feel of this aluminum case, the aluminum has an awful chalky - chalkboard feel to it (touching it with my finger pad none the less feels like dragging ragged fingernails across a chalkboard - oof). Can you point me towards a keyboard that has a similar grey aluminum case but has a better finish? Tofu? Mode65? Anything? I'm not even sure what the v3's finish would be called but yeah, that chalky feel just sets my teeth on edge so badly!
I wasn't able to find one on amazon that I liked unfortunately. I have been scavenging them off boxes that electronic products came in lol. If you find a TV box, you hit jackpot
I intentionally bought my KBD67 lite wanting an ABS case, i’m a tactile switch kinda guy so I want a softer platform. this is cool tho however I don’t see the purpose if me upgrade my case when I already had a Mode SixtyFive ordered 😬😬
Do you prefer your modded Tofu 65 or the KBD67 Lite in the alloy V3 case in terms of sound and feel? Which do you like more and think is better? Reason why I ask is because all KBD67 Lites are sold out everywhere with the exception of the Bluetooth PCB which lacks QMK /VIA support and RGB. I understand the Tofu 65 is a nicer sounding board and heavier compared to the Tofu 60 and I fancy giving it go. Alternatively I could sacrifice QMK /VIA /RGB and get the KBD67 if better than than the Tofu 65.
I think for me, the best balance is the KBD67 Lite plain without the aluminum case. The aluminum case changes the sound and dynamics, but I don't know if it's worth taking the KBD67 Lite into a mid range category... there are others you can get on GB that would be better
@@Keybored I just ordered the black ABS KBD67 Lite R2 bluetooth version as couldn’t get the the wired version anywhere under 200USD. Got some Boba U4T’s, Durock V2’s and GMK WoB.
Great overview! Out of curiosity, how do you think it compares to your D65? (Your review of that board helped convince me to get one of my own, btw. 😁)
Hmm... I think the d65 still feels a bit more premium. The gap and all are intentional on the d65 and overall I feel the finishing is better also. I'm going to try the pe mod on my d65 and add some leaf spring style fr4 plate to it to see how it changes it :)
@@Keybored I actually just tried both the tape and PE foam mods on my D65 (with Akko Matcha switches, and also an FR4 plate), and pretty much exactly mirrored your KBD67 experience: tape was an almost imperceptibly tiny difference (just a tad lower pitched), but PE foam COMPLETELY changed the sound character. I'm pretty damn happy with it now. But why do I get the feeling your leaf spring mod will get me to open the case up again... 😅
@@Keybored nice! I did this over the weekend too after stumbling across some foam in a package. It’s a no brainer mod IMO. With ink blacks the kbd lite is nuts
Hey are the gateron cap v2 switches used in this build the milky yellow or just standard yellow. You show off the yellow ones although the link goes to the milky. I'm also not entirely sure on the difference between the 2.
They are actually very different in terms of acoustics. The kbd67 lite with abs case is deeper and thocky. The tofu with the o ring has a more poppy sound!
Again! Awesome video! How was the v3 case? How stiff is the d65 with fr4 plate compared to the kbd67 v3 upgrade? is the kbd67 v3 upgrade better than D65? thanks
Hi Theddy! My d65 FR4 plate with the leaf spring cuts are in the mail and coming to me right now :) After using the V3 for a while, I think overall, I prefer the ABS case of the lite. The V3 case is nice, but it makes the KBD67 sound like any other aluminum case board... However... I have a surprise upcoming with the KBD67 lite actually... stay tuned!
Oh that’s my bad... got it mixed up with the KBD67 MKII. However, type in KBD67 into KBDfans website and you’ll see that both the Lite plate and PCB are open for preorders. So if you’re willing to wait those should be available relatively soon so you won’t have to waste a Lite case.
Did you have any issue with the PE foam when assembling the board? In my case, the little screws just would not bite and I couldn't screw everything together.
@@Keybored Just so I don't miss out anything, I need the KBD67 V3 case, KBD67 PCB, Poron Case Foam, PC plate. Is there no foam between the PCB and plate?
This is the video I was looking for - many thanks. Just ordered the kbd67 lite r2 with black ABS case and I am coming from a modded alloy Tofu60 so I am not sure how I will feel about plastic. About to pre-rder the Mode SixtyFive so this will be a nice project until it arrives in December. Do Boba U4T's sound decent on the kbd67 lite or do I need to gets something like Lavenders or Gateron Ink Blacks for the thock?
I actually see myself getting forked and hated in replies, possibly, but I don't like the Cap Switches sound. Sounds like, idk, just sounds empty to me. I know that's not the way to put it, but that's just how it feels to me.
for $300 or so you could join GBs for much better looking boards so if you think alu case is something you want, dont buy 67Lite imo. $160 for a meh looking case is silly. It's the cost of a GMMK Pro. I bought Space65 two years ago for like $350 for example. I dont think KDB67lite for $109+$160 is a good deal, specially if you care aesthetic. It's a just a plain rectangle without any unique design. hell, you are better off buying D65 from the start. I dont think spending money into this board worth it. You either like it for what it is or just save up for a higher end board. Seems like a trap to me.
@@penguinkraftz3329 no such thing exists lol. Some people consider the Vega an end game and that was in the 300s GB. Others will do it by cost... But if it makes you happy and you don't need anything else to make you happy, that's end game
It's fine this way when he's actually editing multiple shots and needs to sync, basically what they do with a clapperboard in the film/tv. But they also edit that part out lol. Also gives a comparable sound to edit with since in person sound is so different than what the mic picks up. I do find it useless when people are just uploading a single unedited clip and trying to do that for seemingly no reason other than everyone else does it and then using sounds that are not consistent like clapping hands or snapping fingers which becomes useless when you don't edit the sound, need to sync or even making a sound that is replicable by the viewer.
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Hi Scott, Thanks for introducing me to this PE foam mod. I have finally got my Tofu60 aluminium case to sound awesome.
Case foam is installed in the battery compartment and below the PCB with the magic PE foam between the PCB and plate. Plate is Polycarbonate, switches are Boba U4T (stock) and keycaps are GMK WoB with Durock V2 stabs.
I have also drilled out the two centre posts and just used the outer 4 screws. I did have PCB foam but to be honest the board did not sound great so I just removed it and just have the PE foam mod.
It now sounds fantastic and I will also do the same when my KBD67 Lite arrives.
That sounds like an amazing mod! Glad it worked out!
Really recommend lubing those switches
gosh that pe foam really does work!
Some magic sorcery with that foam
Loving the more frequent uploads. Thanks for these videos!
You're welcome! I managed to get 2 videos out this week but much less sleep lol. So much content built up so I need to hustle a bit
Man, it just gets better and better. Keep up the great vids!
Thank you for the support! :)
I am waiting for the KBD67 LITE BOTTOM SILICONE PAD from KBDFANS , and thinking of trying the PE Foam Mod again . Great video man !
Thank you! The silicone pad will be helpful!
PE foam is trending hard rn, it makes keebs sound poppy and creamy. Although I don't think the alu case is quite worth the price, would much rather get something like a Neo Element G67. Not a fan of the space on the upgrade, sounds a bit hollow.
Yeah the aluminum case has more hollowness than the abs
@@Keybored yeah haha hollow has been the issue with most non-plastic kbdfans boards, esp the low-mid price tier. But on the bright side more colors are coming for the plastic 67 lite which does its job well enough.
@@Mike-ei8qj the lite is such a great board for its price
@@Keybored yessur, it honestly embarasses all the plastic boards around the price point... Kara and Portico ain't got nothing on 67 lite! 😎
I used PE foam instead of other foams like shelf-liners ever since I got my Arisu like 4 months ago. Even for acrylic cases, it does wonders.
Here it is! Nice one, thanks for the breakdown
You're very welcome melker! Good seeing you here
Perfect video. I was browsing KBDfans and saw the new case. Though, I’ll hold off a while before I throw some more money at my board. Great video!
Thank you Adem!
Honestly one of the most underrated youtubers out there. Keep it up!!
Thabk you Ryan! I really appreciate it!
i just want to take a moment to thank you for introducing me to the PE foam mod, never heard of it until i watched your gmmk pro mod video. Im baffled by how well it works
It's magical! Hope it helps us in many builds in the future!
Tried the pe foam mod on my gmmk pro…will be doing it in every build I do from now on! Thank you.
It's amazing right? Crazy what that little layer does!
@@Keybored yeah had me shocked sounds great with tangies highly recommend
Nice vid ,keep going on :D
Thank you so much!
These sounds remind me of the sounds dying skeleton soldiers in Warcraft 3 made
Haha so many different types of sounds
Crazy how much better these sound then past kdb boards from years ago lol
A lot of progress made by KBDfans recently!
@@Keybored absolutely man very nice
PSA about that switch opener; don't use it for long-pole switches! It will poke the stem through the bottom of a U4T, for example.
I couldn't resist buying the case myself - and I do like it. Definitely changes the character of the board - you trade the deep thocky sound and bouncy character for a more clacky sound and being super-planted on the desk. It is a lot less forgiving of unlubed or poorly lubed stabs, though!
Also TIL V2 Gateron Caps are a thing
i also read that reddit post where the guy poked a hole through the bottom housing
then i watched the Andy Nguyen video where he pretty much exerted all his strength and it didn't poke a hole
And the dude has some decent arms... Much larger than mine at least lol
I'm waiting for the gray one to be back in stock. I really love my R1 but wish it had more heft.
Exact same here man. I have the transparent and I don’t like it because of the rgb. I have kiwis in it so it makes the lights green through the board
@@daegan00 I also have the transparent one and I too dislike the RGB flooding thru all around the case so I just keep it off. I'll be getting an FR4 plate the same time I get the alu case and slap on my beloved Susuwatari caps on top of some Boba U4T.
:) Hope you can get your hands on one soon! Not sure why none of my comments from last week registered... odd
Thanks for clarifying this. I saw this case on divinkey and was wondering if it would work. Also thanks for linking the fr4 plate. I've been kinda disappointed in mine but I have milky cap v1 and are not bad. Hopefully these upgrades with fix my kbd67.
It's definitely a change from the stock KBD67 LITE. I don't know if it's truly an upgrade, since you do pay a lot for the aluminum, and it changes the type of sound it makes, but doesn't really "upgrade" it per se.
I've actually been wondering if the kbd67 mkII soldered pcb would work with the kbd67 lite products. I asked kbdfans before they said it isn't compatible but I don't see why it wouldn't work apart from maybe the USB c either being too long or short
Hmm that is an interesting thought! Maybe something to do with the mid silicone layer?
@@Keybored they didn't mention the reason. I suspect they just said it isn't compatible because they don't wanna be responsible for a wasted purchase.
@@dubOZ may be very true haha
5:55 There have been a couple folk who have blown out the bottoms of their long pole switches using this thing lol.
Haha will have to keep that in mind! I created a system of using this and it's been helpful
Tofu65 with your o-ring mod and PE foam mod, or this? I already bought the Tofu65, and all the stuff to mod it. I really wanted the KBD67 Lite R2, and it actually came back in stock 2 days after I bought the Tofu65. Timing sucks sometimes.
I think they're different. The kbd67 is considered a "upgrade" vs the tofu, but the tofu65 with the o ring is also so good... I think the tofu with o ring actually has a softer typing feel than this, but this has a lower case front so it's more comfortable to type without a wrist rest
@@Keybored okay thank you! I can also do the PE foam mod on the tofu right?
@@chrisdotdash5154 you can as long as it's not too thick of pe foam with the hot swap
You can also now buy a silicone dampening base from kbd as well for this
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Between the KBD67 V3 and an o-ring modded Tofu, what would feel stiffer between the two?
The V3 has very very little flex... I would say that theoretically, the V3 is supposed to be a softer keyboard. But in practice, I would say the O-Ring TOFU may actually be a softer typing experience.
A bit late. But as a owner of both, my tofu definitely does feel softer and bouncier to type on.
I feel like a $160 case upgrade to a $109 board just seems conceptually backward. I'd rather they just make a silicone dampener for the KBD67 Lite, or maybe I might do a silicone pour myself.
Alternatively I might just leave mine as is, since I've dampened all my other boards so the KBD67 Lite can stay as my test thocky/loud board.
You make a great point!
They do have a silicone case dampener for the kbd67 lite. It's pretty new but it's on kbdfans kbdfans.com/collections/kbd67-lite/products/r2-kbd67-lite-bottom-case-silicone
@@rks5457 Oh Really? I totally missed that that existed. Now I've got to think up some other things I need to put together a KBDfans order since shipping isn't typically cheap.
Does the existence of this kind of change the value proposition of the base KBD67 Lite vs the NK95 and the Portico. To get it to actual parity with those, since they both come with Silicon wedges, the KBD67 Lite technically costs $127 which puts it closer to the Portico cost and puts more distance between it and the NK65. Interesting.
How can I create a game mode that disables the win button?
even with PE foam it's a bit too muted to my liking
Then you'd really dislike it stock haha. But in real life is not too bad with the pe. I was looking for ways to silence it a bit because it was loud for me lol
I just assembled my KBD67 Lite and I did not like the plastic case as I am coming from an alloy Tofu. I liked the sound but not the weight or look plus I did not like the way it bent in the middle while typing. I think this was because of the rubber feet.
Just installed the V3 alloy case and it is much better. Feels and looks much better and I may even get that brass weight.
I did not try the case stock and PE foam modded it straight away. Does anyone know if you can ditch the mute silicone as I feel this board is muted compared to my modded Tofu.
Switches are U4Ts and GMK WoB.
If you're talking about the center silicone later, unfortunately, that helps to keep the plate up, so no. You can remove any of the muting under the pcb though
@@Keybored Thanks Scott. How about installing D60 foam gaskets on the plate? I think an FR4 plate with the mute silicone removed and V3 case would be end game for this board.
Hi Keybored. Can you make a video regarding the vissles v84? Thanks!
I'll take a look to see what that is!
@@Keybored Thank you!
We need an TKC Portico Mod video :(
Yup! Will work on that
why do you want to mod it? it is pretty amazing stock
@@PaladinSalt I felt it was a bit muted and want a bit more life :)
@@Keybored ah I gotcha, looking forward to seeing your take on it then!
@@Keybored Correct! It's a bit muted and the gasket foam isn't the best, it would be interesting to see it with better gaskets (ex: d65), standoffs removed and with pe foam even tape mod! Would be pretty cool to watch!
Did u also put the PE Foam behind the PCB? Was thinking of wrapping the Whole PCB with it and see how it pans out.
Hi Sam! Nope, just between the plate and the pcb!
I spend the money to upgrade mine and definitely don't regret it.
:)
Hey, great content man but can you make a quick tutorial on how to pe foam and where it goes? Cheers!
it just goes in between the pcb and the plate, it goes underneath the plate foam if you have one. He showed it in his gmmk pro mod video.
@@Billy_The_Frog ok thanks man
@@LeClipzForever np
This right here!
Will you be reviewing the gateron pro switches? They are prelubed ks9 with improved molds that help with stem wobble, smoothness, and sound.
Ooh I'll have to look into these. Thanks!
Anyone know when the KBD67 V3 restocks on kbdfans.com?
I think the E-White is actually in stock!
@@Keybored thanks for the response, bought a Tofu65 & Alpaca V2s, so keen! Inspired by your tofu o-ring mod, convinced me to build one. Thanks for the content 😁
Great vid! I tried the PE foam mod on my board thanks to you and it made a huge difference! I was wondering though.... is plate foam necessary to do this mod? Would it still make such a big difference without plate foam? Would it work if I just put PE foam and nothing else between the PCB and plate?
it works i’ll link u a video with my next comment
ruclips.net/video/9lWLi1Dmcj8/видео.html
both instances use pe foam but one also uses plate foam on top of the pe
Great comparison on the mode 80!
I'd upgrade just because it's not plastic anymore. I prefer my Tofu 65 over my KBD67 lite because it feels less like a toy
Then you'd like the v3! So much more substantial!
@@Keybored I've been noticed
I’m looking to build my first 65 keyboard, simply upgrading from a Ducky one 2 mini. Tofu 65 case or this KD67 v3 case? The price different isn’t an issue!
Hmmm... That's a tough one. Technically, the kbd67 v3 is the better board... But it's super stiff considering that it's a gasket. Tofu on the other hand is old school tray mount... But becomes nice with o ring mod... If you want to mod it, tofu has more mod ability. Tofu with pom plate and o ring mod is pretty fantastic. If you want to use it fairly stock, the kbd67 v3 but stick with the PC plate.
so with pom plate u would say o ring modded tofu is better than kbd67 v3?
cause i would like to have that poppy metallic sound but are torn between the two
Oh dang sounds noiceee
Thank you!
Scott, I really hope you see this and can help me out - I 100% bought the v3 aluminum case after watching dozens of these videos (esp this one from you) but I HATE the feel of this aluminum case, the aluminum has an awful chalky - chalkboard feel to it (touching it with my finger pad none the less feels like dragging ragged fingernails across a chalkboard - oof). Can you point me towards a keyboard that has a similar grey aluminum case but has a better finish? Tofu? Mode65? Anything? I'm not even sure what the v3's finish would be called but yeah, that chalky feel just sets my teeth on edge so badly!
Great video. I wonder why the pe mod works so well. Maybe it stops the pcb from absorbing a lot of the switch noise?
That's my thought as well! And the pe material is very bouncy so it shoots it back up through the switch
wow, PE foam does deeping the sound, more. more less same like tape mod. thank you for sharing.
Absolutely!
Could someone link a 0.5mm pe foam for this mod available in eu
I wasn't able to find one on amazon that I liked unfortunately. I have been scavenging them off boxes that electronic products came in lol. If you find a TV box, you hit jackpot
@@Keybored yeah will make sure to check those. If there isnt one I guess Im gonna buy a tv then 😅
The brass weight is not compatible with the Bluetooth pcb wahhhh
:( it adds so much more heft!
I intentionally bought my KBD67 lite wanting an ABS case, i’m a tactile switch kinda guy so I want a softer platform. this is cool tho however I don’t see the purpose if me upgrade my case when I already had a Mode SixtyFive ordered 😬😬
Yeah, not sure if it's worth it unless you really want aluminum or that specific sound profile
what thickness of foam did you use? or in general; what foam did you use? (brand, thickness, etc.)
For this one, I used the stock foam that came with the KBD67 lite! But usually, I like to use the Zip-n-fit liner from Target!
@@Keybored alrighty cool, thanks!
How did you install the PE mod? Is there not the silicone mute pad in between the pcb and plate?
It goes under the silicone mute pad, right on the PCB!
Do you prefer your modded Tofu 65 or the KBD67 Lite in the alloy V3 case in terms of sound and feel? Which do you like more and think is better?
Reason why I ask is because all KBD67 Lites are sold out everywhere with the exception of the Bluetooth PCB which lacks QMK /VIA support and RGB.
I understand the Tofu 65 is a nicer sounding board and heavier compared to the Tofu 60 and I fancy giving it go. Alternatively I could sacrifice QMK /VIA /RGB and get the KBD67 if better than than the Tofu 65.
I think for me, the best balance is the KBD67 Lite plain without the aluminum case. The aluminum case changes the sound and dynamics, but I don't know if it's worth taking the KBD67 Lite into a mid range category... there are others you can get on GB that would be better
@@Keybored I just ordered the black ABS KBD67 Lite R2 bluetooth version as couldn’t get the the wired version anywhere under 200USD. Got some Boba U4T’s, Durock V2’s and GMK WoB.
Great overview! Out of curiosity, how do you think it compares to your D65? (Your review of that board helped convince me to get one of my own, btw. 😁)
Hmm... I think the d65 still feels a bit more premium. The gap and all are intentional on the d65 and overall I feel the finishing is better also. I'm going to try the pe mod on my d65 and add some leaf spring style fr4 plate to it to see how it changes it :)
@@Keybored Oh wow, can't wait to see (and hear) how that goes!
@@Keybored I actually just tried both the tape and PE foam mods on my D65 (with Akko Matcha switches, and also an FR4 plate), and pretty much exactly mirrored your KBD67 experience: tape was an almost imperceptibly tiny difference (just a tad lower pitched), but PE foam COMPLETELY changed the sound character.
I'm pretty damn happy with it now. But why do I get the feeling your leaf spring mod will get me to open the case up again... 😅
Nice video! Did you place the pe foam in the bottom of the case or between the switch and the pcb?
Between the switch and pcb!
@@Keybored nice! I did this over the weekend too after stumbling across some foam in a package. It’s a no brainer mod IMO. With ink blacks the kbd lite is nuts
Hey are the gateron cap v2 switches used in this build the milky yellow or just standard yellow. You show off the yellow ones although the link goes to the milky. I'm also not entirely sure on the difference between the 2.
the ones in the typing test are the standard "gold" ones! Hmm... let me look into the links! But for the price, I think the milky are the better value
@@Keybored alright thanks!
Where can I get this escape key?
It's from the GMK Godspeed set :)
Amazing sound test! Are the stabilisers here holee modded with 205g0?
Yup!
Which has better acoustics, KBD67 Lite or the Tofu65?
They are actually very different in terms of acoustics. The kbd67 lite with abs case is deeper and thocky. The tofu with the o ring has a more poppy sound!
Again! Awesome video! How was the v3 case? How stiff is the d65 with fr4 plate compared to the kbd67 v3 upgrade? is the kbd67 v3 upgrade better than D65? thanks
Hi Theddy! My d65 FR4 plate with the leaf spring cuts are in the mail and coming to me right now :) After using the V3 for a while, I think overall, I prefer the ABS case of the lite. The V3 case is nice, but it makes the KBD67 sound like any other aluminum case board... However... I have a surprise upcoming with the KBD67 lite actually... stay tuned!
@@Keybored Awesome! Thank you
I would get it if they make a e-yellow like tofu60. Gonna pass on black white grey..
I think they also have a green?
@@Keybored Nope just black grey and white. Might as well save money for the mojo68. Gasket mount board for $150 doesn't sound too bad
@@chiuuuuuuuuuu oh my bad, I thought this comment was on the freebird! Yup on the kbd67 v3, only the 3 colors you mentioned
@@Keybored imma watch that review later!
Is there any other third party metal case options available right now that I could use with kbd67 lite PCB?
I don't believe so. This thing is so specific, especially with the plate tabs that it would have to be specific to the build :(
Awesome video, do you where can I get non-conductive pe foam? I don't wanna accidentally buy a conductive/anti-static pe foam.
HI Vesten! That has been a challenge for me also! Can't find ESD foam thin enough under .5mm... if anyone does, it'll be great to share!
any way to use the v3 without having to get the entire lite set?
His use of “upgrade” is a bit misleading. KBD67 V3 is it’s own keyboard and not an upgrade kit for the KBD67 Lite.
@@gray4935 oh so its possible to just make a kit using the v3?
@@gray4935 Where do you see KBD67 V3 full kit? I only see the case on the website.
The V3 only comes as a case unfortunately... requires the lite as the donor for the internal components
Oh that’s my bad... got it mixed up with the KBD67 MKII. However, type in KBD67 into KBDfans website and you’ll see that both the Lite plate and PCB are open for preorders. So if you’re willing to wait those should be available relatively soon so you won’t have to waste a Lite case.
Do you think pe foam with a thickness of 0.75mm will be to thick?
It might be too thick actually :( I suggest something under .5mm
Does the fr4 plate actually make the keyboard more poppy as opposed to the stock polycarb? Or is that just the mic?
The FR4 plate is bit stiffer, so it does change the sound that way!
@@Keybored Thanks!
did you use your DIY silicone case dampener in the v3 case as well?
Unfortunately there wasn't too much space in there so I used the provided foam that came with the kbd67 lite!
@@Keybored cool cool cool cool! Thanks!
Wait is this the r3 gb/temporary instock or the like version 3?
v2 and v3 same thing, but the r1 a bit different
This one is the R1!
When you applied the pe foam did you have the stablizer wires above or below the pe foam? Or was it a complete cutout?
Hi Mimoe! For me, I did a complete cutout around the stabs to ensure there was no interference!
@@Keybored thanks!
By the way, have you tried tempest mod?
Did you have any issue with the PE foam when assembling the board? In my case, the little screws just would not bite and I couldn't screw everything together.
Fortunately, I was able to use some really thin stuff, and it worked without any issues!
Hi, I don't have a KBD67 Lite, but I can just buy the KDB67 V3 and get the other parts separately right?
Yup you sure can!
@@Keybored Just so I don't miss out anything, I need the KBD67 V3 case, KBD67 PCB, Poron Case Foam, PC plate. Is there no foam between the PCB and plate?
i have the kbd67 v3 also just wondering do you think the slight clackiness from the video is from the fr4 plate?
Combination of the plate and also the pe foam as well!
hi, is the red escape keycaps included in the epbt dolch?
Nope! I took it off from the GMK Godspeed set!
This is the video I was looking for - many thanks. Just ordered the kbd67 lite r2 with black ABS case and I am coming from a modded alloy Tofu60 so I am not sure how I will feel about plastic. About to pre-rder the Mode SixtyFive so this will be a nice project until it arrives in December.
Do Boba U4T's sound decent on the kbd67 lite or do I need to gets something like Lavenders or Gateron Ink Blacks for the thock?
Yup! The boba do sound pretty good on the lite! Have a great thock!
i ran to amazon to get some pe foam
:) Good luck!
Heh, nice, my kbd67 lite r2 is with cap milk :D
The v2 caps are actually pretty good!
Kbd67 upgrade? Interesting
Yup! It was interesting to see them launch that
which specific pe foam did you use?
I used this very thin tissue paper like one from another electronic bag lol
i have no money..... but this might have to be purchased anyway
I say that to myself all the time too lol
I actually see myself getting forked and hated in replies, possibly, but I don't like the Cap Switches sound. Sounds like, idk, just sounds empty to me. I know that's not the way to put it, but that's just how it feels to me.
The great thing about this hobby! So much to choose from!
for $300 or so you could join GBs for much better looking boards so if you think alu case is something you want, dont buy 67Lite imo. $160 for a meh looking case is silly. It's the cost of a GMMK Pro. I bought Space65 two years ago for like $350 for example. I dont think KDB67lite for $109+$160 is a good deal, specially if you care aesthetic. It's a just a plain rectangle without any unique design. hell, you are better off buying D65 from the start. I dont think spending money into this board worth it. You either like it for what it is or just save up for a higher end board. Seems like a trap to me.
You make a great point!
however u don’t have to wait a whole damn year for a gb from a sus runner like graystudio to ship ur board
Is $269 really only mid level?!
:( some won't even consider it a mid at that level
Bruh what's endgame 1000+ ?
@@penguinkraftz3329 no such thing exists lol. Some people consider the Vega an end game and that was in the 300s GB. Others will do it by cost... But if it makes you happy and you don't need anything else to make you happy, that's end game
zamn, that’s marble
:) Thank you!
Time to sell the alu case before it's ded lol
Lol. Worth the pe mod, it actually sounds very nice
@@Keybored i agreed,tape mod just sound awful on my spacebar
May wanna warn folks of the small dangers involved with PE foam modding. Static.
Good point!
Uh oh, time to spend more money on keyboards
I know... I always have the same dilemma
My least favorite keyboard trend is the clicking of the mouse before starting a typing test. It’s a waste of time.
I use it to sync audio and video :)
is it not helpful for getting a reference scale on the sound? I find it very helpful
wow a waste of a whole 3 seconds
It's fine this way when he's actually editing multiple shots and needs to sync, basically what they do with a clapperboard in the film/tv. But they also edit that part out lol. Also gives a comparable sound to edit with since in person sound is so different than what the mic picks up. I do find it useless when people are just uploading a single unedited clip and trying to do that for seemingly no reason other than everyone else does it and then using sounds that are not consistent like clapping hands or snapping fingers which becomes useless when you don't edit the sound, need to sync or even making a sound that is replicable by the viewer.
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7:27!
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