This is the how meeting went down "We're not getting enough Americans to watch track and field. What should we do? I got it, let's go to a provider with a lower install base and charges 5 times the price. I'm so glad I got that MBA degree."
That's what modern sports was designed for in their minds, to keep the Africans entertaining, while to keep as many of the rest of us out of financial range as possible, in order only to entertain them. The white supremacist main dying goal will always be getting as much financial servitude outta the AFRICAN, world-wide as possible. This is the importance of our future behind African Independence.
I have had flow wrestling for years and surprised then show the tour of Spain, tour down under , the spring classics etc. Nothing better then running at Hayward field .
All you have to do is boycott the damned thing. The runners will balk at not having eyes on or at least their paychecks should drop with fewer views. I suggest everyone not pay. If we miss one year of immediate getting off, oh poor us. But if the streaming service dies. Good for us because someone else will pick it up for pennies. Again - do not join FloTrack service - period.
I consider myself a hard-core track fan. We live near Eugene and go to almost all the stadium events. Every year we watch every diamond league as a family. I would even consider paying up to $10 or $12 per track meet just to watch. but at $30 a month, flotrack is asking me to pay $20+ per diamond league meet just to be a fan and I don’t think we can do that. It breaks my heart because T&F brings my family together and it’s something we love doing together.
@@treymccain8164 OK the video didn’t mention that only $12.50 was an option. That seems on the high end of reasonable. Something worth considering once they prove they can cover a high level meet with good production quality
@@alexdonigian Yeah, the video definitely should have mentioned that. That being said, it is ridiculous that there is such a massive difference between month to month and annual plans. They usually have some different but not a 250% difference.
Flo track was livestreaming some marathons on RUclips but just the first half and then they wanted you to go to their website to pay to watch the rest - I highly doubt many people did that. And I highly doubt that people will pay $30 to watch Track & Field. Luckily I live in Canada and all the Diamond League events are broadcast on one of our main TV channels CBC which is the equivalent of the British BBC
What a way to kill the sport. It's already gets no coverage and now it costs 30$ a month, 360$ a year 💀 What comes with the flo track subscription. At that cost I could get a gym membership or something actually worth while. Truly sad
In the ULTRA competitive space of streaming, that is literally the highest price I've ever heard. I understand it's kind of a "specialty" product but my goodness, fuck making track and field mainstream am i right.
@@npSharkie You're absolutely right. And so sad, because they FINALLY figured out how to televise a track meet to where there's a nice flow and transition between one event and the next. Now that the track audience is responding positively because of the improvements, they're going to kill track and field for the masses. Greed kills everything!
@@JonathanKeys-f3m With that extra money they better hire Ato Boldon, Sanya Richards-Ross and Dwight Stones for commentary. Doesn't matter though. I still ain't paying $29.99 a month 🤬
$29.99? absolutely not happening. I was willing to pay the $5.99 to Peacock only for the track meets but now I guess I can cancel that service after this season is over.
As a grappler most of the main competitions are shown on Flo Grappling. Good lord they’re horrible. The times are wrong, the scores are wrong and the camera is usually fixed so when they go out of frame you can only guess what is happening. And that’s on a good day.
Yep that’s correct. I had heard this morning it was $5 before and it moved up to $30. I recorded the commentary soon after that. Math was a little off so appreciate your comment. Sucks either way
I think the word you're looking for is - MESS! The $64,000 Question is - who got greedy - Diamond League or FloTrack? I wouldn't give NBCUniversal $5.99/mo for Peacock so I'm sure as hell not giving Flotrack $29.99/mo. The annoying thing is this is only in the US and US territories - the very place the sport needs to grow the most. The Diamond League is only select events at each meet. Are they going to sell this as a season package or on a month-to-month basis? Or do they even know? It's very telling this is only in the US markets. Price gouging Americans. Hmmm...isn't Wanda a Chinese company? Are they upset about the whole Congress trying to cancel TikTok thing or what? LOL!
This seems like the worse deal ever. I am not plugging Peacock but for that 5.99 you also get thousands of tv shows and movies in addition to sports. So sad.
Nike Prefontaine diamond league meet is not part of that deal because they had the money to pay to not go on flo track. And in the long run it might pay off for Nike and the Prefontaine classic.
I already had Peacock so TF was an added bonus. I watched all the meets they streamed. I certainly won't get FloTrack, especially after they DEI'd my podcast boys!
Hmmm. I wonder what this means for the American commentators broadcast? Ato Bolden, Sanya Richards-Ross, Leigh Diffy, etc? It's funny Leigh Diffy went through this when F1 left NBC.
at least you have options. In Africa its impossible to watch the races even if you want to pay for it. Supersports coverage is problematic. we rely on VPNs
29.99$ per month? Wow! Peacock 5.99$ provides additional content other than track and field… so one could argue that the track and field portion of the peacock package is a bonus…or free. To go from free to 29.99$ per month is more accurate I believe to the common viewers experience. This is heart breaking 💔. Worst news for American track and field!
It’s weird bc they make it so hard to watch track then get mad when ppl aren’t interested. Plus you really only have like 10 meets and 4 where ppl actually show up
Looked it up, the DL is an independent organization (based in Switzerland) not owned by World Athletics, but WA is a minor investor. It licenses broadcasting rights to a company called Infront, who sublicenses out the broadcast rights to individual countries/regions. NBC wasn't willing to pony up the $$$ they wanted so Flotrack stepped in and signed a contract for DL rights in the USA. Note that NBC still owns broadcast rights to the Pre Classic, the Olympics, and a bunch of other track meets here in the USA, so Flotrack does not have a stranglehold on USA broadcasting. Still crappy that its a $30/mo subscription to watch those meets. Sorry Flotrack, but I'm not going to pony up the cash.
Trust me, as a Peacock fan and one who watches all of these races, I’m HOT! They’re making it a monopoly and also costing folks way too much for the service, especially folks who are broke right now.
I wonder what CEO thought 🤔 about that big decision to lose spectators just to get a profit for themselves: My mom always told me to look at it 💵 and cents: and this decision is all about that: and nothing else!!! If you want to see it, pay for it!!! And that is the attitude and that is unfair and unfortunate: I am sorry that happened but somebody would be streaming it like that California International track and field ( Massi Russell) ... thanks for sharing that information!!!
This is absolutely devastating. I won’t be watching Diamond League meets next season. I refuse to subscribe to yet another streaming service. Hopefully the message and drop in viewership gets back to the organizers.
Clearly, they felt they were getting too many views. I used to have a Flo membership to watch grappling events, but steaming issues were so commonplace that I decided to cancel.
Well, new sports will grow in the shadow of this and gain traction in stead. Powerlifting, Strongman, Highland games and so forth, so it's just evolution 🤔
I think it's worth noting that if you pay for a year all at once then it is down to $12 a month. That being said, I don't think FloTrack offers enough for that price.
I love track and field its a large part of why I actually have peacock. I also really enjoy professional wrestling so getting all WWE PLEs along with a host of documentaries and other wrestling programming is great. I'm not adding another streaming service to the laundry list of services I already have, especially one that is $30 a month. That's an absolute slap in the face price tag
As a Track & field participant from the 70s & 80’ and viewer since then I’ll never subscribed to FloTrack because of their high price now will for certain have to get the track & field I can later and after the event dates
Me too. The last world championship at Budapest, I found on a Russian YT channel live where I watched the entire event for free....I couldn't overstand the language, but I didn't care
Before we even talk about the insane price increase, let's get one thing straight...Flotrack SUCKS both in streaming and in covering running. They can have my $29.99 when they pry it from my cold dead hands!
Flotrack is the worst. So glad ESPN will be airing the Boston marathon this year so I don’t have to watch on that money hungry excuse of a streaming service. They didn’t even have commentary on major marathons last year. lol
I am sure the advertisers will really appreciate their viewing audience diminishing before their eyes. Sadly, as much as I love track and field I am not prepared to be "ripped off" by anyone.
Hopefully this shitshow doesn't apply to me in Australia. Hopefully there is somewhere else I can watch it. If not, then it's no more athletics for me.
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This is the how meeting went down "We're not getting enough Americans to watch track and field. What should we do? I got it, let's go to a provider with a lower install base and charges 5 times the price. I'm so glad I got that MBA degree."
So true 😂
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I know right! 🤣
there are many markets this will kill. like all of africa and south america. will runners from those areas lose local support. bank on it.
Accurate 🎯
Disgusting. And this does the sport no favors in terms of getting it more exposure to a wider audience.
The sport is dead, that's why they're getting their last dukkits out of it before they can it
'Premier league in norway is 75£ a month
And the problem is?
@@ChadFarthouse-h8r, oh, you're a funny guy, huh?
Looks like this is going to be my last summer watching the Diamond League track meets.
Vpn
I'll catch the results on RUclips. F that!!!
Maybe, just maybe, FloTrack will attract enough advertising sponsors let us watch for free.
A dude can be optimistically hopeful 🙄👏.
@@RobertJohnson-bj5lkwhy free?
Watching sport is turning into something only the rich can do.
It’s already to be a professional you have to be rich.
Right? You see how much an average Superbowl ticket cost a few months ago?
That's what modern sports was designed for in their minds, to keep the Africans entertaining, while to keep as many of the rest of us out of financial range as possible, in order only to entertain them.
The white supremacist main dying goal will always be getting as much financial servitude outta the AFRICAN, world-wide as possible.
This is the importance of our future behind African Independence.
Exactly as I said…late stage capitalism
I have had flow wrestling for years and surprised then show the tour of Spain, tour down under , the spring classics etc.
Nothing better then running at Hayward field .
Whenever I hear anything with the word Flotrack in it, I vomit inside a little
Let it out
Speak on it.
This is why we pirate
Exactly. These people are greedy beyond words!
Yup! It’s time to dust off the ole ship.
I would never do that, never...totally never
Diamond League. RIP.
29.99 No, Thanks. Looks like I will be hooking up with Jack Sparrow and sailing on the Black Pearl.
All you have to do is boycott the damned thing. The runners will balk at not having eyes on or at least their paychecks should drop with fewer views. I suggest everyone not pay. If we miss one year of immediate getting off, oh poor us. But if the streaming service dies. Good for us because someone else will pick it up for pennies. Again - do not join FloTrack service - period.
They wgaf about that, they're probably cackling somewhere at the thought of boycotting, that's why bought it, because it cost them a cent to keep it
That is why I unsubscibe from them over a year now. They monopolize the sport and do it no favors.
Nope, I’m out. That’s just insane.
On Flotrack video that announced the Diamond League switch the comments are turned off. I wonder why.
I consider myself a hard-core track fan. We live near Eugene and go to almost all the stadium events. Every year we watch every diamond league as a family. I would even consider paying up to $10 or $12 per track meet just to watch. but at $30 a month, flotrack is asking me to pay $20+ per diamond league meet just to be a fan and I don’t think we can do that. It breaks my heart because T&F brings my family together and it’s something we love doing together.
Get the annual plan. $12.50/month
@@treymccain8164 OK the video didn’t mention that only $12.50 was an option. That seems on the high end of reasonable. Something worth considering once they prove they can cover a high level meet with good production quality
@@alexdonigian Yeah, the video definitely should have mentioned that. That being said, it is ridiculous that there is such a massive difference between month to month and annual plans. They usually have some different but not a 250% difference.
You and your family should join together and pay seeing ir is it so important to you all
More expensive than Formula One. Totally nuts.
Flo track was livestreaming some marathons on RUclips but just the first half and then they wanted you to go to their website to pay to watch the rest - I highly doubt many people did that. And I highly doubt that people will pay $30 to watch Track & Field. Luckily I live in Canada and all the Diamond League events are broadcast on one of our main TV channels CBC which is the equivalent of the British BBC
You have to love CBC❤
What a way to kill the sport. It's already gets no coverage and now it costs 30$ a month, 360$ a year 💀 What comes with the flo track subscription. At that cost I could get a gym membership or something actually worth while. Truly sad
Never doing it! Fuck then!
Flo Sports in general is awful. Way to kill the sports.
Just so tone death
Can we all boycott flo track 😂
29.99 is a scam only way it might be worth it was if it had all the streaming services and i mean ALL of them
Thankful for BBC2 in the UK…
Apparently only for the rich white Americans and Europeans, I'm assuming
@@JkDibine "I'm assuming" ... you're assuming wrong
@@_MicZ_ ....And every last minority benefiting... How that shit work.
@JkDibine only a problem for American fans 😢😢😢😂😂😂
What?!!! They have lost their freaking minds!! They should know almost no one is gonna pay that! 😡😡😡
In the ULTRA competitive space of streaming, that is literally the highest price I've ever heard. I understand it's kind of a "specialty" product but my goodness, fuck making track and field mainstream am i right.
The kkklansmen dgaf tho
6X the money per person, I bet they retain nearly 50% viewership. Even at 30%, massive net gain still. Nobody gonna talk them out of it
@@npSharkie You're absolutely right. And so sad, because they FINALLY figured out how to televise a track meet to where there's a nice flow and transition between one event and the next. Now that the track audience is responding positively because of the improvements, they're going to kill track and field for the masses. Greed kills everything!
@@JonathanKeys-f3m With that extra money they better hire Ato Boldon, Sanya Richards-Ross and Dwight Stones for commentary.
Doesn't matter though. I still ain't paying $29.99 a month 🤬
Flotrack more like backtrack
Yeah... I'll be watching Michael Johnson's track league which is "fan focused"! Thank you MJ.
This sport continuously finds ways to guarantee that it will not grow in the U.S. 🤬😡🤬
From obscurity back into obscurity.
RIP track and field
$29.99? absolutely not happening. I was willing to pay the $5.99 to Peacock only for the track meets but now I guess I can cancel that service after this season is over.
As a grappler most of the main competitions are shown on Flo Grappling. Good lord they’re horrible. The times are wrong, the scores are wrong and the camera is usually fixed so when they go out of frame you can only guess what is happening. And that’s on a good day.
Screw flotrack. Peacock will lose me as a subscriber too. Very unfortunate news.
At 1:23 an increase from 5.99 to 29.99 is 5 fold not 6 fold
Yep that’s correct. I had heard this morning it was $5 before and it moved up to $30. I recorded the commentary soon after that. Math was a little off so appreciate your comment. Sucks either way
Still sucks.
@@trpexclusive4288 cbc
I literally got Peacock for Track and Field. This is insane!
The biggest fumble 🤦🏽♀️
I think the word you're looking for is - MESS! The $64,000 Question is - who got greedy - Diamond League or FloTrack? I wouldn't give NBCUniversal $5.99/mo for Peacock so I'm sure as hell not giving Flotrack $29.99/mo. The annoying thing is this is only in the US and US territories - the very place the sport needs to grow the most. The Diamond League is only select events at each meet. Are they going to sell this as a season package or on a month-to-month basis? Or do they even know? It's very telling this is only in the US markets. Price gouging Americans. Hmmm...isn't Wanda a Chinese company? Are they upset about the whole Congress trying to cancel TikTok thing or what? LOL!
This seems like the worse deal ever. I am not plugging Peacock but for that 5.99 you also get thousands of tv shows and movies in addition to sports. So sad.
And they wonder why people look for illegal streaming services.
I never ever pay per view. Why should I when I can watch the next day, or even later the same day, for free?
*LOGIC* is the *SCIENCE OF REASONING*
*TO REASON* is to be *FAIR AND SENSIBLE*
Guess they don’t realize people don’t care about watching things live, espeically track
Boycott it ... pure and simple.
Nike Prefontaine diamond league meet is not part of that deal because they had the money to pay to not go on flo track.
And in the long run it might pay off for Nike and the Prefontaine classic.
This is the only good news I've heard about this fiasco.
Fortunately, I live close enough to see Prefontaine Classic in person every year. It's the only meet I don't need to see on TV. 😞
Flotrack sucks. Coverage, camera work, it like watching a high school meet.
I already had Peacock so TF was an added bonus. I watched all the meets they streamed. I certainly won't get FloTrack, especially after they DEI'd my podcast boys!
Goodbye diamond league!
I hope Paris is on Peacock
If not I’m done with Peacock after the last Diamond League meet this year. Too bad. It’s always about greed and $$.
Hmmm. I wonder what this means for the American commentators broadcast? Ato Bolden, Sanya Richards-Ross, Leigh Diffy, etc? It's funny Leigh Diffy went through this when F1 left NBC.
I haven't seen it lately. Has Flotrack ever gotten an announcer that, uh, has anything worthwhile to say?
I know I’m not paying it. I’ll wait for the highlights to be shown on RUclips later on they’re crazy enough is enough.
This is just a joke. They r stamping and track and field. Smh
I’m pissed.
It sucks all around.
What were they thinking? Give me a break!
at least you have options. In Africa its impossible to watch the races even if you want to pay for it. Supersports coverage is problematic. we rely on VPNs
There’s time to fix this diamond league. Please fix it!!!
29.99$ per month? Wow! Peacock 5.99$ provides additional content other than track and field… so one could argue that the track and field portion of the peacock package is a bonus…or free. To go from free to 29.99$ per month is more accurate I believe to the common viewers experience. This is heart breaking 💔. Worst news for American track and field!
VPN as Canada and tune into CBC. Most of these meets stream free on their site.
As a casual who just got into T&F seriously as of recently. Flotrack messed up big time, Imma just get a VPN 😂
Ugly. I hope athletes turn down diamond league invites and show up for events that reach a wider audience
Actually Peacock give out deals all the time so many are paying less than $5.99 even.
So we go from NBC sports to guys who stream meet’s from phones and then charge fans 5x more? WTF(who the **ck) go the payoff!
It’s weird bc they make it so hard to watch track then get mad when ppl aren’t interested. Plus you really only have like 10 meets and 4 where ppl actually show up
Looked it up, the DL is an independent organization (based in Switzerland) not owned by World Athletics, but WA is a minor investor. It licenses broadcasting rights to a company called Infront, who sublicenses out the broadcast rights to individual countries/regions. NBC wasn't willing to pony up the $$$ they wanted so Flotrack stepped in and signed a contract for DL rights in the USA. Note that NBC still owns broadcast rights to the Pre Classic, the Olympics, and a bunch of other track meets here in the USA, so Flotrack does not have a stranglehold on USA broadcasting. Still crappy that its a $30/mo subscription to watch those meets. Sorry Flotrack, but I'm not going to pony up the cash.
I guess I will keep watching the reviews on RUclips.
Trust me, as a Peacock fan and one who watches all of these races, I’m HOT! They’re making it a monopoly and also costing folks way too much for the service, especially folks who are broke right now.
That hurts the sport. I don’t and will not pay for any kind of streaming or shows.
I signed up for Peacock just to watch track. But this time I'm not switching to a much more expensive service. -_-
Same here. Peacock was just for Diamond League, the rest is bonus. If there is no diamond league, there is no need for Peacock anymore.
I wonder what CEO thought 🤔 about that big decision to lose spectators just to get a profit for themselves: My mom always told me to look at it 💵 and cents: and this decision is all about that: and nothing else!!! If you want to see it, pay for it!!! And that is the attitude and that is unfair and unfortunate: I am sorry that happened but somebody would be streaming it like that California International track and field ( Massi Russell) ... thanks for sharing that information!!!
This is absolutely devastating. I won’t be watching Diamond League meets next season. I refuse to subscribe to yet another streaming service. Hopefully the message and drop in viewership gets back to the organizers.
This will not stick just watch
Diamond league meets are available in some countrys on RUclips. Use a VPN and you're good
So like, did FloTrack offer up a ton of money (offset by the subscription price) to get this deal or what exactly happened and who even uses FloTrack?
Thanks for the memories, Diamond League.
This price increase is unjustified. Count me and my family out.
We get the meetings free in the UK. Loool to USA
😂
Track and field just continue to bury itself, this sporty can be much better and bigger.
Thats ridiculous, how can they get away with that? Isn't there anything that can be done about it?
Clearly, they felt they were getting too many views. I used to have a Flo membership to watch grappling events, but steaming issues were so commonplace that I decided to cancel.
major sporting events should be on National TV
Well, new sports will grow in the shadow of this and gain traction in stead. Powerlifting, Strongman, Highland games and so forth, so it's just evolution 🤔
I think it's worth noting that if you pay for a year all at once then it is down to $12 a month. That being said, I don't think FloTrack offers enough for that price.
I love track and field its a large part of why I actually have peacock. I also really enjoy professional wrestling so getting all WWE PLEs along with a host of documentaries and other wrestling programming is great. I'm not adding another streaming service to the laundry list of services I already have, especially one that is $30 a month. That's an absolute slap in the face price tag
As a Track & field participant from the 70s & 80’ and viewer since then I’ll never subscribed to FloTrack because of their high price now will for certain have to get the track & field I can later and after the event dates
I love track and field but if this is going down, I'm done supporting the sport until there is fairness and something is done with the IOC
Well I catch highlights on RUclips 😂
Me too. The last world championship at Budapest, I found on a Russian YT channel live where I watched the entire event for free....I couldn't overstand the language, but I didn't care
There is a chance they'll start blocking uploads too, but we'll see.
@@artdogg50 🤦🏿♂️
What's crazy is that in the UK the diamond league is on free to air TV. $29.99 a month is crazy
Before we even talk about the insane price increase, let's get one thing straight...Flotrack SUCKS both in streaming and in covering running. They can have my $29.99 when they pry it from my cold dead hands!
Get a vpn - it's MUCH LESS expensive. Flotrack just committed suicide.
I understand its business, but putting track & field behind a paywall is not a good way to grow the sport.
I walk away from ANYTHING that makes me a sucker if I have to pay an outrageous price.
The diamond league should be free to watch on ESPN NBC or Peacock. It should be free flow track I will not subscribe bye bye-bye
This isn’t cool, price is too high. But I admit, I’m going to pay because I want to support the sport
Bro-
Track and field is already not a popular sport,
This is not helping the sport
Flotrack is the worst. So glad ESPN will be airing the Boston marathon this year so I don’t have to watch on that money hungry excuse of a streaming service. They didn’t even have commentary on major marathons last year. lol
I am sure the advertisers will really appreciate their viewing audience diminishing before their eyes. Sadly, as much as I love track and field I am not prepared to be "ripped off" by anyone.
Sry but just means I’m gonna start watching in person or watching highlights flotrack has always been terrible and I will continue to believe that
Screw FloTrack. No way on earth I’ll be paying for their crap service.
Hopefully this shitshow doesn't apply to me in Australia. Hopefully there is somewhere else I can watch it. If not, then it's no more athletics for me.
They are going to break all of the records this year so it won’t even matter next year.
That’s crazy. I can’t afford to watch track and field now. Never thought I’d be saying that.
It should be free and let the promoters for each event pay the streaming company.
Guessing math isn't your strong suit?
5x5.99=29.95
Ugh that sucks, I'll wait for the videos to be posted on social media.
I'm sorry, but not just no, but HELL NO!!!
Twitch or RUclips should get the rights to stream track and field. Would be such a positive.
I would not watch floor track. I like it to be on Peacock. I am not pain no $29.99 per month no no way baby