fam,it would have been good to see a before and after video with this new gearbox tune/flash.Everyone that gets these says the same thing.........massive difference.Great vid as always
I hear you bro, but tbh it’s something that needs to be experienced in person as you can’t really get the feeling across that well on video or through words if you get me.. Hope you’re well though bro TW
Another great vid Tim. So to recap then..... Stage1 no additional traction loss, did you get a chance to try it in damp/wet conditions? Stage2 traction ok but would look to get an LSD to help now? The MSS springs and underbody brace I have had fitted have def improved traction on my M140i, even swapping my MPSS to the Goodyears have helped. But I was still considering getting a LSD, (Wavetrac for me), before a Stage1 remap, hmm decisions to make.
Cheers Andy! Spot on with your recap! Yeh deffo looking into suspension now tbh! It’ll be a Quaife for me I think...wavetrac is a quaife with a little feature added but I can’t justify paying the extra for just one feature that will probably only happen once in my ownership 😆
Yeah I know what you mean the Wavetrac is that bit more expensive. And as you say, (I think you are referring to wheel off the ground scenario), the likelihood of that happening is very slim. But I think the extra Wavetrac bit also helps slightly more with wheel slippage, (might be useful in the poor weather months of the year), and also helps very slightly when moving from decelerating to back on the gas again, (reacts quicker I think).
Performance isn’t the issue with the M140i’s, it’s the soft chassis and lack of lsd where it loses out... great for big power, but just hasn’t got the handling to back it up.
Yo Tim, Wazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....... I have a question, stage 2 what concern The consumption, is that a lot more than just standard? Now i do 260-300km with a full tank, if stage 2 will be done, does it consume horribly a lot more or just a ml extra?
I’d say I got 350 miles out of a full tank before and now it’s around 280miles. At stage 1 it was around 340-360miles The joy of bm3 is that you can switch maps within 30 seconds if you are going on a long journey
@@TimWilliamsHD thx for the info tim👊! Wow, 350miles,that's 530 km⚡, that's a lot.. Than i have an alcoholic car, dammit... In. Place of bring it in the garage for upgrade i have to bring it to the AA association haha, any way lets say a noticible extra consumption
Great power matey ! I'm still considering downpipe & sports cat, I heard 480-490 is about the max on stock turbo, if you upgrade the fuel pump. Not sure I want to risk reliability though, I have heard of a few with bottom end issues (mainly ones that have been tracked and oil starvation while cornering). I do worry about the ZF8 and if it can handle the extra power without reducing it's lifespan considerably. Mine seems nippy enough at 411bhp/576nm, bet yours is an animal !
Exactly right! Stage 1 is more than enough tbh I think I’m just being greedy and it still doesn’t scare me 😆 turbo upgrade could be on the cards tbh makes sense to part ex turbo whilst it’s still working 😂
@Mr Statistics You 'think' that is what power it made, because you are stupid enough to believe some shitty graph given to you by a dodgy tuner. I work in the motor trade, I understand the science behind dynamometers, and know how easily stupid people like you are fooled into believing you have a lot more power than is actually possible from a simple map of a B58 engine. Science never lies, but tuners do.
@Mr Statistics Please stop. Trying to justify your inflated figures by cussing me, it's embarrassing. I posted where I had my map done, and my comment was removed. Suffice to say, it is a dedicated tuning company, and BMW / Porsche specialist, who look after many competition vehicles. Massive companies mean nothing. McDonalds is a massive company, but nobody would say they make quality food.
@Mr Statistics You can keep posting the childish cussing all you want son. The only thing you are proving, is that you need to grow up. Draggy times, or any other GPS box, cannot 'prove' engine power you dimwit, just listen to yourself lol ...... In fact, BHP cannot be measured, it can only be calculated, you really don't know anything do you. The only accurate way to measure, is to have a standalone engine, on an engine dyno, and measure the torque to calculate the BHP. I said 'please stop', but actually, please carry on, this is hillarious, best laugh I've had all weekend.
Hey Tim whats the driveability like with xhp is it still smooth in comfort/eco mode, as I don't want to ruin the day to day capability of the car. Great video by the way.
Sounds so much better, do you get much drone in cabin from the exhaust when on the motorway? Is the gearbox map available for 2016 M135i? Love your videos mate 👍
@@TimWilliamsHD thats cool mate 👍 mine is stage 1 with standard exhaust, I get some drone on motorway when revs hover around 2200 rpm. Going to look into the gearbox map 👍
Mate, I'm going to have to stop watching your vids, you're such a bad influence! I've got about 18 months until the warranty runs out.. I'll have the sports cat, stage 2 map and Xhp gearbox flash thank you very much. It sounds bloody fantastic!! Does the gearbox change quicker and feel a bit less slushy? Cracking vid :)
Out of interest, can the ZF box be programmed to miss out the odd no, gears on way up the box (not so concerned about downward - may need to keep all to allow predictive rev matching - I am not a fan of latest craze of just keep adding gears to be one up on the competition /mates in the pub.... with well over 400 lb ft of torque over such a huge torque band, the last things it needs is a close ratio gearbox! - I (age probably) hate the DSG motorsport derived sprint gears with awful DSG 'belch' - The ZF being auto based fortunately allows a little slip which I prefer...bit 8 gears?! Really? - I prefer to luxuriate in the transfer of off to on boost and feel the revs rise - not zap crack zap crack zap crack..... Would like to experiment with: pull off in second with a decent longer pull - not scrabble TC scrabble TC Second gr... then 4th, 6th, 8th - if anthing I would slow down the gearchanges too - I appreciate I am against the trend and indeed commonsense if performance matters over character...I am sure I would prefer it - hate an indecisive box that shuffles gears when you are easing on and off the throttle looking for a traffic gap to overtake - I dont want it to feel like i am in an autotest all the time - 2 4 6 8 ..thats what I appreciate :)
Surely the gap in ratios will make acceleration feel strange? You’ll feel acceleration slow down when you change up. What you’re asking for is custom ratio’s. Easily done in some cars as there is a market for them (Honda Type R boxes for example)
Cheers mate, I’ll be hopefully getting out in one soon as I actually want to be able to make that judgement despite hearing so many people say the same thing 😆 Hope you’re well Aaron, Please like and sub TW
Can’t say thank you enough Tim! Always a pleasure to work with and you can tell by the smile on my face that your car is a weapon 💨🔥
Exactly right bro! Getting another bit done on the car soon so it’ll be great to catch-up again if you’re available 🔥
Your energy is mad mate,loving it all the way from South Africa
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So this is just downpipe, stock midpipe and remus backbox ?
That’s the setup 👍
@@TimWilliamsHDthanks for the answer. So i just need remus backbox then on my M240i. Do you recommend?
fam,it would have been good to see a before and after video with this new gearbox tune/flash.Everyone that gets these says the same thing.........massive difference.Great vid as always
I hear you bro, but tbh it’s something that needs to be experienced in person as you can’t really get the feeling across that well on video or through words if you get me..
Hope you’re well though bro
TW
Could you have done the Bootmod3 gearbox flash instead?
Gearbox not available on Bm3 for ZF gearbox mate only dct
Whats the cost from stock?
Send Williams performance a message mate and they’ll sort out a package deal!
Whats your total exhaust setup in this vid ? with the downpipe, still remus? catback?
Was decat, resonators and remus backbox mate!
@@TimWilliamsHD thanks! Appreciate it!
Another great vid Tim.
So to recap then.....
Stage1 no additional traction loss, did you get a chance to try it in damp/wet conditions?
Stage2 traction ok but would look to get an LSD to help now?
The MSS springs and underbody brace I have had fitted have def improved traction on my M140i, even swapping my MPSS to the Goodyears have helped.
But I was still considering getting a LSD, (Wavetrac for me), before a Stage1 remap, hmm decisions to make.
Cheers Andy! Spot on with your recap!
Yeh deffo looking into suspension now tbh!
It’ll be a Quaife for me I think...wavetrac is a quaife with a little feature added but I can’t justify paying the extra for just one feature that will probably only happen once in my ownership 😆
Yeah I know what you mean the Wavetrac is that bit more expensive. And as you say, (I think you are referring to wheel off the ground scenario), the likelihood of that happening is very slim.
But I think the extra Wavetrac bit also helps slightly more with wheel slippage, (might be useful in the poor weather months of the year), and also helps very slightly when moving from decelerating to back on the gas again, (reacts quicker I think).
Performance isn’t the issue with the M140i’s, it’s the soft chassis and lack of lsd where it loses out... great for big power, but just hasn’t got the handling to back it up.
Exactly right Ethan!
Hope you’re well!
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what about AWD models?
@@q2subzero that improves traction not handling
Yo Tim,
Wazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......
I have a question, stage 2 what concern The consumption, is that a lot more than just standard? Now i do 260-300km with a full tank, if stage 2 will be done, does it consume horribly a lot more or just a ml extra?
I’d say I got 350 miles out of a full tank before and now it’s around 280miles.
At stage 1 it was around 340-360miles
The joy of bm3 is that you can switch maps within 30 seconds if you are going on a long journey
@@TimWilliamsHD thx for the info tim👊! Wow, 350miles,that's 530 km⚡, that's a lot.. Than i have an alcoholic car, dammit... In. Place of bring it in the garage for upgrade i have to bring it to the AA association haha, any way lets say a noticible extra consumption
😂
Great power matey !
I'm still considering downpipe & sports cat, I heard 480-490 is about the max on stock turbo, if you upgrade the fuel pump.
Not sure I want to risk reliability though, I have heard of a few with bottom end issues (mainly ones that have been tracked and oil starvation while cornering). I do worry about the ZF8 and if it can handle the extra power without reducing it's lifespan considerably.
Mine seems nippy enough at 411bhp/576nm, bet yours is an animal !
Exactly right! Stage 1 is more than enough tbh I think I’m just being greedy and it still doesn’t scare me 😆 turbo upgrade could be on the cards tbh makes sense to part ex turbo whilst it’s still working 😂
@Mr Statistics You 'think' that is what power it made, because you are stupid enough to believe some shitty graph given to you by a dodgy tuner.
I work in the motor trade, I understand the science behind dynamometers, and know how easily stupid people like you are fooled into believing you have a lot more power than is actually possible from a simple map of a B58 engine.
Science never lies, but tuners do.
@Mr Statistics ruclips.net/video/kRzdE3jjF9k/видео.html&ab_channel=TunedbyRabbid
Watch and learn, and see how tuners fool idiots like you.
@Mr Statistics Please stop.
Trying to justify your inflated figures by cussing me, it's embarrassing.
I posted where I had my map done, and my comment was removed.
Suffice to say, it is a dedicated tuning company, and BMW / Porsche specialist, who look after many competition vehicles.
Massive companies mean nothing. McDonalds is a massive company, but nobody would say they make quality food.
@Mr Statistics You can keep posting the childish cussing all you want son.
The only thing you are proving, is that you need to grow up.
Draggy times, or any other GPS box, cannot 'prove' engine power you dimwit, just listen to yourself lol ......
In fact, BHP cannot be measured, it can only be calculated, you really don't know anything do you.
The only accurate way to measure, is to have a standalone engine, on an engine dyno, and measure the torque to calculate the BHP.
I said 'please stop', but actually, please carry on, this is hillarious, best laugh I've had all weekend.
warranty safe, he said it with a straight face too LOL
👀
Great vid as norm 👍🏻, keeps me smiling. Can BMW see if you’ve had a map carried out on your car
Haha cheers mate!
Yes I’ve heard they can now...
Hope you’re well!
New subscriber! Defo gonna support but brother what’s that music about?
Cheers bro! Haha random selected from a site I get them from
Is xhp only available in UK?
It can be done remotely if you give defined coding a message mate!
I am from Recife in Brazil South America and this is a great video,
You need a wavetrac now...
Claudio AGMFilho cheers bro hope you’ve subscribed! I’ve got a diff, look at latest video!
Is it the gpf version and do you still have the gpf or did you delete it?
No gpf bro
Hey Tim whats the driveability like with xhp is it still smooth in comfort/eco mode, as I don't want to ruin the day to day capability of the car. Great video by the way.
John Smythe it’s even smoother than before mate and the car is always in the right gear now..when in sports mode it’s a totally different animal now 😆
Nice one cheers dude!
Sounds so much better, do you get much drone in cabin from the exhaust when on the motorway? Is the gearbox map available for 2016 M135i? Love your videos mate 👍
Not a single bit of drone matey!
Gearbox map is available for all zf8 gearboxes mate regardless of engine or tuner 🙏🏽
@@TimWilliamsHD thats cool mate 👍 mine is stage 1 with standard exhaust, I get some drone on motorway when revs hover around 2200 rpm. Going to look into the gearbox map 👍
Ah I see, Yh defined coding can look into that for you, 75mph mine sits at 2k rpm
Mate, I'm going to have to stop watching your vids, you're such a bad influence! I've got about 18 months until the warranty runs out.. I'll have the sports cat, stage 2 map and Xhp gearbox flash thank you very much. It sounds bloody fantastic!!
Does the gearbox change quicker and feel a bit less slushy?
Cracking vid :)
😆 love that!!
Perfect set up for you tbf!
Yes mate it feels way sharper!
You’ll have to drive mine next time we meet!
How much Boost are you seeing with this mods?
Cars sold mate sorry don’t have any logs but it was circa 18psi
Salute to bmw 🙌 B58 and that ZF 👌
Great watch. Lots of cheese and bread moments. Can’t wait for my xhp flash 🙌
Yes Pep, you’ll love it bro!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Great vid Tim she sounds so much better bro and stay safe 🙏
Cheers bro! Yeh it’s spot on now, tried a rest delete and didn’t like it 😆
Hope you’re well bro
I'm all well bro thank you
man your videos are amazing. You are hilarious
Glad you like them!
Hope you're having a good monday!
Awesome as ever !! 👊😎
Cheers Adam hope your weekend has been good!
Have a good week
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I Recognise those roads 👀
Haha that says a lot about the type of driving you like to do lol
Hope you’re well Gaz
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Where’s the popcorn 😂
Looool mad one
Hope you’re well mate
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This guy is a right tube
Outrageous 👌🏽
Thanks bro!
Hope you’re well Craig
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Great vid car looking great and 💨
Cheers bro,
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Got loads more coming!
Mad mad mad 🔥
Yes yes bro you know it!
Hope you’re well!
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Tim Williams already subbed a while back 👍🏽 got an m240i myself but just done visual mods and PCW mod so far 🙏🏿
Out of interest, can the ZF box be programmed to miss out the odd no, gears on way up the box (not so concerned about downward - may need to keep all to allow predictive rev matching - I am not a fan of latest craze of just keep adding gears to be one up on the competition /mates in the pub.... with well over 400 lb ft of torque over such a huge torque band, the last things it needs is a close ratio gearbox! - I (age probably) hate the DSG motorsport derived sprint gears with awful DSG 'belch' - The ZF being auto based fortunately allows a little slip which I prefer...bit 8 gears?! Really? - I prefer to luxuriate in the transfer of off to on boost and feel the revs rise - not zap crack zap crack zap crack..... Would like to experiment with: pull off in second with a decent longer pull - not scrabble TC scrabble TC Second gr... then 4th, 6th, 8th - if anthing I would slow down the gearchanges too - I appreciate I am against the trend and indeed commonsense if performance matters over character...I am sure I would prefer it - hate an indecisive box that shuffles gears when you are easing on and off the throttle looking for a traffic gap to overtake - I dont want it to feel like i am in an autotest all the time - 2 4 6 8 ..thats what I appreciate :)
Surely the gap in ratios will make acceleration feel strange? You’ll feel acceleration slow down when you change up.
What you’re asking for is custom ratio’s. Easily done in some cars as there is a market for them (Honda Type R boxes for example)
They should of just made these cars a M1. Just added the m diff as standard and called it a M1 as these things are quicker then a stock m3 and m4 lol
Even stock they can keep up. We did a test run with a m3 and a m140i both stock and there was nothing in it
Agree totally!
N55 has the best sound I swear! The car has really come together well man 👌🏾😎
Cheers mate, I’ll be hopefully getting out in one soon as I actually want to be able to make that judgement despite hearing so many people say the same thing 😆
Hope you’re well Aaron,
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B58 in the 140i 👍🏽
Yo Tim! You a Bromley lad?!
Neutral Samurai nah mate, but I’m active 😆 hope you’re well!
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I'm in the about too. I've got an 270bhp manic tuned mini jcw. You can have the keys whenever. Keep yup the good work.
Ah wicked!
You got Instagram bro?
@@TimWilliamsHD nah I'm off the grid. I'll drop you an email with some images and specs.
Wicked
Nice.
Cheers bro
cant tell if the dude is enjoying it, or is shitting it 😂
Both bro 😆
I’m from Bromley
Well recognised 😆
Stay blessed!
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Tim Williams I have mate 👍
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