Ultimate Showdown: P&S Absolute vs. Labocosmetica iDrosave Rinseless - Which Reigns Supreme?
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Welcome to the ultimate showdown between P&S Absolute and Labocosmetica iDrosave Rinseless! In this video, we will explore and compare these two renowned rinseless products to determine which one truly reigns supreme. Prepare yourself for an in-depth analysis and side-by-side testing of their performance, effectiveness, and remarkable features. Both P&S Absolute and Labocosmetica iDrosave Rinseless have gained immense popularity in the car detailing community due to their exceptional cleaning capabilities and user-friendly application process. We will dive into every aspect of these products to help you make an informed decision. First, we will examine P&S Absolute, a powerhouse in the rinseless category. We'll highlight its unique formula, designed to encapsulate dirt and grime, allowing for a safe and scratch-free cleaning experience. Its excellent lubrication properties ensure the utmost care for your car's delicate surfaces. Next up is Labocosmetica iDrosave Rinseless, a strong contender in the rinseless game. We'll explore its revolutionary chemical blend, specifically engineered to encapsulate contaminants and provide a glossy finish. We'll address its ease of use and compatibility with different vehicle surfaces, ensuring a hassle-free application. Throughout this comparison, we will conduct multiple tests, assessing the cleaning power, water sheeting ability, and overall performance of each product. We'll also discuss their environmental impact, as both options boast eco-friendly formulations. Join us as we put P&S Absolute and Labocosmetica iDrosave Rinseless to the ultimate test, seeking out the one that excels in every aspect. Discover which product lives up to its well-deserved reputation and caters perfectly to your car care needs. So, which rinseless product will come out on top? Stay tuned till the end for our final verdict on the ultimate winner - the champion of cleanliness! Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to our channel for future automotive product comparisons and expert tips on achieving the best results for your beloved ride.
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This will be like a Hot Italian chicks vs Chunky American chicks. My money is on the Italians.
ROFL
i see some reverse-psychology in the click-beity thumbnail...🤔
well done sir 👏
Thanks for always watching means alot my friend
Labocosmetica it's the most underrated brand in the car detailing world.Criminally underrated!
It is
Very true
Truth
Very true !
Labo is the way 💪 we use it alot. Its next level !
Absolute not looking so good. I have no experience with it. I’ll probably stick with Hero, WGU, Koch, ONR V5, and DIY. Labo looks good, but I’ve heard it leaves polymer spots in direct sun.
Absolute impressed me in 80 degree sun at a car show was some of the best stuff out there , they were using griots and other brands streaky and this stuff just worked
P&S is amazing, if you want to deal with streaks on glass 😂
lol dude your a savage
Put me down for a gallon Reggy
Labo Idrosave vs ADS Hero head to head…. Who wins? Labo has protectant doesn’t it?
Hero for sure can be used any time idrosave with Preludio changes some things but hero as a stand alone is great for cleaning etc , it leaves some polymers behind but isn’t longer then a day
This testing was unfair Eddie. Idrosave is too goated to be put next to absolute, it’s too trash to dry off of my black paint without streaks 😂
Lord haha absolute did alright , just this one cleans and feels better
Don’t know and don’t care.
I’m sticking with DIY Detail Rinseless Wash.
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So good diy is
This man knows the way.
Chunky Rinseless vs. Quality pasta Rinseless? Let's get into it!😜
Lmao haha lord
@@Ecdetails 😜¡Hay Dios mío!
I dont have a problem with Absolute, but it is no surprise to me that Labocosmetica makes something better. Labo makes some insanely good products.
Absolute is good man
Apparently also good for interiors like any other rinseless... not quite sure whether or not the included protection is ok on waxes... probably not an issue. Will definitely buy this!
It does leave behind a stout polymer sealant just wanted to be transparent
@@Ecdetails Yep. Not necesserely a bad thing... this will definitely be a very good winter rinselss when applying protection can be tricky.
I guess because of the polymer protection Idrosave isn't suitable to use for wiping of polish residue, clean polishing pads etc like Yvan does it with the diy? Unfortunately in Sweden it's basically only possible to buy the small bottle diy rinseless and it cost like $25, Labocosmetica is alot more popular so might be able to get my hands on that in a bigger size. Otherwise it's onr or absolute as my only options. Really like the diy though, bought a small bottle just to try.
Ya I wouldn’t with the protection use it to clean pads or wipe off
@@Ecdetails Does it clog up your drying towel with the polymers?
Sweet. Looking forward to using labo. Your absolute looks like something x rated 😂
Lord haha 😂
Rip 🪦
@@JamieTheCleaner 😂😂
Don’t get the slickness everyone raves about with Absolute. I’ve used it a few times and it struggled cleaning my coated car that was below/not that dirty what some would say is too dirty for a rinseless wash.
I use it for dirty dirty cars but I would do the following bro
1. Prespray with apc
2. Spray off
3. Rinseless wash
4. leave the rinseless on clay bar ( if you need to with iron)
5. rinse off
Dry
We get this thought that rinseless washes dont use water, there are time I just use a bucket of water and go to town and I rely a lot on the polymers to do the work . SO the question how dirty if its heavy mud rinse it off before the rinseless wash
@@Ecdetails my white car didn’t look much dirtier than the one in the video. I still enjoy traditional washing but have been playing with rinseless since last fall. Wasn’t impressed with Absolute with all of the hype behind it.
@@DerPic um I would of used just rinseless no apc rinseless , there are others tou should try. But back to what your saying a car this dirty should require anything but rinseless
Diy is my current favorite, balances everything including good cleaning power. I have to try this though.
@@chrisbradley3224 I love diy
Dammnnn the comparison are Absolutely clear!! That Idrosave no streaking nice gloss and no need to double down on drying. Can’t wait 🙏🙏
was good man, absolute is good man every rinseles has there stuff
@@Ecdetails facts each rinseless has their characteristics. 💪
A soap man in Vegas! Gotta practice with rinseless for when the water runs out 😅 😢.
lol dude loves the soap Harold is awesome and he for being older works real fast I was impressed
I'm not alleging anything...but that Absolute was acting really weird. I've been using it since it was released and have never seen anything like that.
Regardless, I'll be checking this one out. Great to have another option in rinseless.
I get it , the gallon is second one I’ve used
This is my exact experience with absolute. Two different batches and two different sizes. Didn’t matter what I did it left a streaky smeary film. Amazing slickness, but I don’t want to have to go around the car twice because step one didn’t leave the car how I wanted.
I tried the Absolute & didn’t like it ether. Was a quick return. To be fair, I was trying it as a “quick detailer & to clean windows” & it left a lot of haze/residue.
Try it as a glass cleaner it’s good
@@Ecdetails I did, didn’t work to well for me. Lol. Followed their recommendation & was a no go.
Damm it looks to be a very fine product, it’s damm I can’t get in denmark, also with the diy sponge, I’ve tried Amazon, tried to write too them but they can’t help me..
Eddie, Absolute is light work. I know you said you tested Gloss Shop Sublime. How would you rate the Labo against that with cleaning power?
oooooo I gotta get the new one and test . Absolute still has it place :)
Thanks to you, Eddie; I just found your channel over Christmas, and you were demoing LaboCosmetica, which is new to me. I WAS TOTALLY CONVINCED. Since then, I have ordered 16 gallons (5 Ltr) from them, especially the primer polish, the 2pH cleaning system, and the current 3pH wash system. I am anxiously awaiting IDROSAVE and the new 3 pH wash system. Please give me a link to order it once you see it! I can't wait for SEMA. Thanks for all of your work. PS I used to use Absolute and all the others, that is, until I tried McKees 37 Graphene rinseless wash, and it just blew everyone else away. So, with that said, I am so looking forward to IDROSAVE! God Bless.
Thanks for being part of the team bro means the world to me. ALso I can say IDROsave is doing goods work. stuff is good
Where do we get idrosave, it is not on the website?
I'm sure I had heard of Labo probably from some random post somewhere, but you talking about it is really the only time I recall REALLY hearing about it. I'm interested in trying it out fo sho.
Good brand man , still testing some other stuff but haven’t found anything bad or wrong with it
Labocosmetica has always made some really great products, they are just difficult to get in the USA. At least, they have been in the past. I haven't bought any recently from that brand. Hopefully they expand their product line here in the USA because they really do make good stuff!
It’s alot easier to get now , never had a issue getting there stuff at the labocosmetica.store
@@Ecdetails Yes sir, I just looked and it looks like it's a full line up of products now. I will definitely be getting some of this product when it is released. I didn't see it on their USA site yet.
Can we get this product in Canada? 👍👍🇨🇦
Hey bro yes they ship all over
Labcosmetica.store
I just used Idrosave for the fist time & It appears to be slicker & glossier then ONR. No streaking & didn’t need a drying aid.
So far so good.
Did you use it outside ?
Yes, mid morning, direct sun, few panels at a time.
@@Ecdetails What issues / drawbacks are you hearing or experiencing with idrosave?
Problems in direct sun?
@@domtrabucco7612 It leaves polymer spots when it dries on the paint and they aren’t easy to get off. It offers some stout protection though. I have no experience with it other than word of mouth. Wolf gang uber is my favorite in direct sun.
@@elonsus9747 maybe the manufacturer will eventually update the formula to address the issues.
Already know the answer 😉 excited to see them side by side!
😂😂😂😂😂 🤥
I have never had any issues with absolute. I have used both products and both are good just wasn’t enough for me to make a switch. So you have to swirl it around a little bit in the bucket. 🤷🏻♂️. No big deal. Slickness for me was almost dead even. Just my opinion. Unless you can use products for a while head to head then you can really compare then just after one test. That’s why personally I felt now difference in the two. There will always be that’s “next best product” lol
I test so much stuff - idrosave just cleans better over got me I’m glad it’s thr same for you but there’s a difference in cleaning / cleaning glass and using as a drying aid
@@EcdetailsI mean you some people will chase the best of the best all the time. There will never bed a best product. Most people didn’t like mckees’s when it came out but many pros loved it while others said it was ok. You didn’t like it and there is no problem with that. This stuff is $26 per liter. Cost difference is a lot compared to all other rinseless washes. I like it but not enough to justify a price when running a business when there are tons of other Products on the market. I am sure with all your testing soon enough there will be an even better one. I liked it for sure but not enough yo say it’s better than many other products especially at cost.
@@barrycook8116 cost per wash to have me wash and seal is cheaper overall if you take time into account
@@Ecdetailscorrect, it works for your business and that’s all that matters. I didn’t get more than one wash out of the protection put on. Maybe 2 weeks. But it’s good for some customer base.
Where can i get that bucket setup
Carbon collective , detail division
So this product has to be dried/wiped off immediately right? I spayed my whole car w pre-spay, washed the whole car, and then dried the whole car...ended up w a ton of water spots I had to buff out....but this may have been bc I didnt wash & dry one panel at a time? Thoughts Eddie? I really want to make the most of this product and am happy w the slickness
Hey bro - ya I made a video about this recent thr difference of this vs diy or others that don’t have a true polymer , the directions even state panel by panel as it has a stout polymer protection or 2-3 panels clean and dry
Does idrosave make the water bead like the Wolfgang uber sio2 ?
Idrosave leaves more protection its slicker and polymer sealant is stout
Thanks for the demo guys!
Looks like I gotta sit on my wallet and hands til Idrosave releases 😅
I’ve been sitting on my wallet
Any update on whether iDrosave is steamer compatible or not? Cheers.
Imma make a video!
The one swipe method is killing my back watching lol
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I want some idrosave but im a bit skeptical about washing outside on the sun! I have diy rinseless and it has been great so far !! Any thoughts on idrosave while washing outside on the sun and not in a garage? BTW we need a head to head between DIY n idrosave 💪🏼
I did a recent video called how to rinseless wash I showed them against each other
Two polymer titans enter the ring! But can they beat ONR v3?
Alright, I havent tried any other rinseless outside of DIY. Not a fan of P&S products, so I'll pass on that. Especially when it transforms into man-juice 😖
I'll hop on Labo's site and order me a bottle to try out against DIY. If it has anywhere near the performance of DIY's Rinseless, i'll be impressed.
Diy is real good , eco wash and irdo is like finding your wife cross campus yelling hey mama she’s right bro
Is this product IDROSAVE still not available as of 2/9/2024?
Actually on the boat to the distributor will be launching 20th of this month
top notch video featuring top notch dudes. we are happy EC, old man Tim and old man harold love our stuff. We're sold.
You just verified what I thought. I jumped on the Absolute train and was disappointed in its slickness.
So slick labo is
Bro i jumped on the Absolute small bottle when they first came out, used it like twice and wasn't a fan. Currently trying to burn through it to clean out my shelves 😂 i HATE the chunk
lol 😂 oof
Great vid Sir. Hoping Cabo has a Black Friday sale planned so I can buy 1 of everything. I want to try the whole package. Then I’ll reach out to see if you’d be open to a training. Be well
Would be cool
To get everyone together to do a big training
😂 It’s TIMMMMMM 😂
lol
Frankly, i don't like absolute on glass. I just used it again a few days ago. It works.
It cleans good just doesn’t clean as good
Eddie, do you ever use/test turtle wax products? Their hybrid line seems to check a lot of boxes for great price (thinking specifically about their rapid decon iron remover at half cost of others, the graphene flex as drying aid, even their graphene inside job and tire shine spray). Thanks for your videos!
I do , I need to start expanding my goal was to bring stuff we wouldn’t usually get from across the pond and test it
Eddie, I have also completely changed my mind about TW products, and it has become my #1 recommendation to my clients for 6 of their top products. I should start selling it, but I just didn't want the hassle of tracking the resale for taxes. LOL, But I give every client a couple of bottles after the detail. TW, wheel and tire cleaner, PURE soap, Ceramic Spray, Ceramic tire shire, inside job, leather mist and detailer, and carpet spot remover. They are great products. I consider them great DIY home detail products until they need me. :-)
@@nicksdragon6929 Hey Nick im waiting for reggy to get ack to me about your other questions, I have never used TW products. I use to give out a bottle of rinseless , tire shine and quick beads with every car but figured out quick some people dont like washing cars
Reggie I only give product to the clients that I've done ceramic coatings on and once a month I put on a wash clash for all them to bring the cars over and I show them how to wash their ceramic vehicles and at that time I deliver the chemicals that I told my give him if they showed up for the class because they're the ones that said they want to be able to watch cars themselves. For everyone else that goes through the quick wax or the drive-throughs I just tell them to see me every quarter. Lol
These product comparisons are very useful and this video clearly showed the difference between the two rinseless washes. How is the cleaning power of Indrosave versus OP ECO Wash?
🙀 I knew someone was gonna ask that well , have to do a video now we’re going surfactant vs polymer but it should able to match it in performance
I love P and S absolute, I’ve used most of the Rinseless wash brands , mckees , diy, Wolfgang, Onr , oberk , but absolute has better cleaning power and the gloss is on another level, the gloopiness is the only negative talking point, but put in some warm water and stir and it’s fine, and better value for money than it’s competitors and a great smell!
Interesting like pan says everyone has a different experience
Still waiting the Idrosave 😢
I have to order Rinseless but still not available
An idea when it will be release ?
On the boat gonna be pre sold in a few days and out for delivery 25th this month
Has it been said if Labo is polymer or surfactant based? What happens if it drys on the panel? Looks like a great product. So many rinseless washes im eyeing up that I want to try, I can't decide haha.
Polymer based rinseless , no sio2
@Ecdetails Thank you! So no issues drying on the paint.
@@StocklookinSS in like water spots ? We didn’t experience it I also want to be honest that I didn’t test in 150 degrees did a wash outside 90 degrees and left some and came back dried it
When is this coming out? 😢
I’m still waiting they said December
These Italians man.. someone should have shown them some data on how much Americans spend at Black Friday and the weeks after getting stuff for Christmas 😂
@@jamesrandy5753 you ain’t lying haha 😆 I even told Reggy and David like bro get the rinseless asap haha 😂
Love watchin' the Larry, Curly and Moe Showdown Challenge.
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How do the double flips work for a traditional wash
They work good , just need more then one
I want to get it
Washing clothes in the 40’s Lolol
lol
Bro converting soap guys.
lol 😂 hope your good man
Eddie man where do you get those beautiful translucent teal buckets? Those look fantastic.
Hey bro got
Them at detail division
Thanks man, appreciate you.
I could of swore I won that giveaway for the new rinseless 😂
Waterless wash , ya your did they are sending it
FYI just used absolute has a rinseless. It definitely doesn't mix in the water so well the last time i used it. Its about 6 mths old and i used over half a 32oz bottle. It still worked but it just looks funky to me. Not a fan. I find it more streaking than DIY too. I used about 60ml in 16 liters.
Ooo so does it not abode well sitting ? I don’t know I’m just asking
@@Ecdetails no idea man. I won't be buying another bottle. Its too bad the wife even noticed how good it smells lol which it does. If i ever see it on special i might get another bottle. Still waiting on idrosave!! :D
@@seabrew1 haha 😂 just buy smell good spray that they make
@@Ecdetails yeah i seen that haha
Hey Eddie, awesome video, can't wait to try idrosave! What about that grit guard? Never seen one like that before
Ill have to do a video , this grit guard is unique its pretty epic. Got it from my friend I think you can buy them online
@@Ecdetails looking forward to the video then, hope I'll be able to buy them in Europe!
Ooooo can’t wait. Maniac Waterless is 🔥🔥🔥
It is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’ve gotta feelin there’s gonna be some trash talking at this battle royale. Let’s do it.
Trash talking happening to that checkmark brand. #Jamie10
Lmao nah I didn’t do the test I videoed and let others do it , it’s a bit different these guys like absolute
Thanks for your update on the release date being in December. I've been checking to see when they were going to announce it's release everyday for the past two weeks until I saw your comment about it releasing in December.
Looks like i'll still have some time before it releases to use my bottle of Absolute.
ya I was looking too until I reached out and he mentioned dec, also your welcome
Has it came out yet?
I'm ready!! This is going to be a long two week wait. I have two liters of Absolute that I don't particularly enjoy using, need to find out alternative methods. Maybe interior cleaner or something.
You can use it for glass cleaner and clay lube ; I have been using absolute for a while this is my second gallon I still pick up onr v3(almost out) , flex , diy and eco wash
Excellent, thanks for the advice. I'll try it out on glass, I hadn't done that yet.
@@ScottKelley real good on glass make sure it’s diluted right and your good to go also clay bar
Tim!!!
At the very least this test alone shows the improvement labocosmetica has done on polymer rinseless. Once you finish your absolute, give this a try
Epic video!
It was a big difference between both , absolute isn’t bad just this labo is wild
@@Ecdetails Labo makes some good stuff. I love my Absolute, but was the Tesla too dirty for Absolute? If I get that dirty I traditional wash. Labo's science is on another level though.
@@wescat2 the Tesla was pretty dirty hard to see on white , it was impressive
What if the cost of that was comparable to a gallon of bead hero when it comes out 🤣
Lord at least know this would work haha 😂
@@Ecdetails Right 🤣🤣 I hope it's not that expensive because my business account couldn't handle that right now haha
@@devonthetrain12 I bet it’s 50bucks
@@Ecdetails Yeah not as cheap as absolute but worth it 👍🏼
Both P&S Absolute and Labocosmetica iDrosave Rinseless have gained immense popularity in the car detailing community due to their exceptional cleaning capabilities and user-friendly application process. ....huh?
They both have there place, but some are better then others in terms of overall experience BUT this video wasn't me doing the testing. There was one dude who never did rinseless doing majority of the testing
@seabrew1 WHY PAST-TENSE? how could iDrosave have ANY reputation YET, when it's BRAND NEW product?!
you shouldn't be sniffing detailing chemicals...
Minding blowing product from Labo
@@OraEtLabora0labo has been around for for over 50 years. They have a reputation and all there stuff is good man
@@Ecdetails sure but i did say product, not brand.
Wonderful ❤❤❤
Always keeping it real! Great comparison video
My guy
I relegated ONR V5 to interior and house tasks. I love that fake-ass blueberry scent for some reason. It doesn’t release dirt from sponges but it does stop hornets from flying well I found out 😂. Can’t wait to try this stuff. If it cleans anywhere near N914 and DIY it’ll be a winner.
lol you said hornets I died haha 😂
@@EcdetailsOne flew in my window and the only thing I had next to me was a spray bottle of ONR! Best not miss. Shout out to Dr. G for saving me 😂.
I use ONR v5 for windows/appliances in the house and in my Chief steamer to keep the boiler free of scale build up.
@@ns7w386 how is the chief holding up ?
@@EcdetailsI love it. I’m just a diy prosumer and have the 100 model. I use it mostly cleaning my house 90% of the time as my cars are so clean I don’t need it much. It’s great for bathrooms and tile floor cleaning.
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Great job 👏 liked the vedio
Thanks bro love you
Chunky monkey has been pissing me off with the mixing. If I’m doing a rinseless I’m trying to knock out a 30 min wash. I was going to buy a gallon of DIY but now I want to try this first before my next gallon of anything. Hope to see availability soon……hate seeing a new toy I can’t get my hands on 😅
Lord 😂😂😂😂✊🏿✊🏿
Do you have a coupon code to save 15% on Absolute? Thanks for the test!
Ya we do jamie10 bro
On the p&s store
@@Ecdetails for as much Jamie loves P&S they should hook him up with another 5% hahaha Appreciate you man. Congrats on the 2k!
@@Gonin60 for real - dude markets more then the old subway dude before he got busted doing suspect stuff
@@Gonin60 also thanks man appreciate you
Yo Eddie! Anotha hit video brotha! I was wondering can we see a comparison video on darker paint, the tesla maybe? The glass test shows a clear winner tho, Love it, thanks brooooo!
I’ll have to buy some
More absolute mine is chucker then me with my shirt off - appreciate you watching
Wow 🔥🔥🔥
YES!
Hey Eddie. Is the lobos rinseless out yet?
Not sir he said Dec they are making it in Italy right now everything else is out tho the new primus , nitido , pruficica, nero etc
Sounds good. Thanks man!
@@omarcastillo3801 thanks for being part of the community
Hey Eddie. Hope all is well! Any word on the lobos rinseless wash release yet?
Hoping the idrosave comes out soon. Haven’t seen it on the Canada store yet
They are making all of it now Should be December the other stuff is on their site
Tim looks so hurt
LMAO
Reggie in the background like I told you my son was gonna get in that @$s.
@@ChiGalKMcAcura rofl I’m dead 😵 hahaha
yo eddie, did my first rinseless super combo today. mixed equal parts diy rinseless and onr, 1 ounce each in 4 gallons, and bam it worked out awesome. it was a little windy but the smell was more apple-ie than anything and it was nice a slick and cleaned like a champ. dried with an air cannon and towel combo, easy peasy no mo greeasy. i’m calling that combo DNR. it was a fun experiment and with countless rinseless washes you have, pick a combo and give it a try 😜
ooooo imma have to try like Griots rinseless which for 11 dollars is pretty good with Eco wash - does it have to be in the same family polymer base vs hybrid? I guess the combo you picked was 2 different types
@@Ecdetails yeah if i’m not mistaken onr is polymer based and fo sho diy is more surfactant based. they really complemented each other. the only other one i have besides those two is absolute, i’m really curious what mixing that with diy’s will do 🤔. i’m ordering phoenix eod’s rinseless soon and maybe a couple others just to play around with. i’m not going too crazy with it because i don’t need that many rinseleseseseses hanging around but my go to rinseless is diy’s right now
@@Franko.Details imma test it with all the stuff I got - we create an epic rinseless on accident
Is idro coming out before Black Friday? I was hoping to get it with the discount. If not I guess I can always EC15 it
Nah he said dec
@@Ecdetails ok sounds good, I’m going to get some primus, glico, ductile, and nitido 👍
@@ethanblan435 nitido is 1 spray per glass haha anything more then that bro you'll hate it
@@Ecdetails sounds good I’m always down for some less is more. I have to see if Reggy is capping about 10:1 primus no agitation on dirty tires
@@ethanblan435 I did 1:5 primus and it worked good
1:10 im not sure haha
Have this released yet?
We’re doing it live on Saturday
@@Ecdetails Thank you!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Any updates on release time?
This month
Waiting for this.. will it be on Amazon? I’m in California. Also please when you do tests, do it on a black car. White is easy, I feel like anything can work on a white car and scratches and streaking will never show on a white car. I feel like it’s cheating almost.
@@GrandHuevotes it was dirty tho we did TJ on the tv e dirty glass as well but ya it we are doing a live this Saturday don’t miss it
I’m so tired of this hyper when is this product going to be available? Honestly, are this gentleman the owner of the product? I really wanna give a try and compare it with the ones on the market. It’s probably not better than DYI but I wanna try myself and see
Being shipped from Italy 🇮🇹 gonna take a bit I think they mentioned end of Jan
@@Ecdetails are these guys the owners ?can I placed a pre-order
@@Pedroluvslupe they are the distributor
@@Pedroluvslupe not sure on preorders bro
@@Ecdetails you already tried the product, what’s the best dilution radio bro?