Is Farage About to Return to Politics? (and why it'll hurt Sunak)
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Farage bowed out of the political sphere after Brexit, but with the Tories looking vulnerable he's apparently eyeing up a return. So in this video we discuss if Farage could be returning to politics & how it could decimate the Conservatives
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If he does, he could very well cost the Tories another 50 seats.
Excellent news....
and he will get thanks to the system 1 or 2 seats lol
Yes but by splitting Tory voters then other parties could win in many more seats. The system sucks but at least people are no longer willing to tactically vote tory "to keep labour out". Right wing voters have realised that the Tories aren't their friends.
Did you watch the video, it would cost the Tories and Labour. Yes Tories more but it doesn't mean an instant Labour victory.
Tbh I'd like a non-blairite right wing party.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Farage left his own previous two parties in dust, just to join the Conservatives and take it over from the inside a la Trump?
Average British citizen: "How could things possibly get worse?"
Nigel Farage: "Lovely day innit?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣 spot on
"Hold my room-temperature beer."
or he beats Lis Trust record of 45 days
"Lovely day innit?" heh, heh, heh...
@@mitch8072
He won't, Farage wouldn't be able to handle the potential humiliation if he steps down, he has a massive ego
I'm cool with Farage running. He'll do untold damage to the Tories, and I'm here for it.
Farage has no solutions. He talks big then disappears out of nowhere when people want him to lead.
Last time he only ran candidates in red wall seats, he might do something similar again
Look before you leap into farages back pockets 🤨
And damage to Labour if you actually watch the video.
As a Tory I’m also here for it
Farage vs. the Tories - all I can hear in my head is Ken Watanabe: "Let them fight."
But what if they decide to join forces?
A far right leader pushing the tories even further right is bad actually
except if Farage wins then expect more right wing populism. Be careful what you wish for
@@dw7647 I wonder if he'll end like Speer or Goebbels though. Probably Speer as he's slithered out of almost everything he fudged up until now ... But a 20 y sentence would give the world a little breather first ;)
All I can hear is "big chungus sends his regards"
Actual responsibility is the last thing Farage wants. He's happiest complaining about others so long as he doesn't have to actually do anything about it.
Bingo!
Time to make another single issue party and then duck when shit goes south.
On the head of the nail.
Typical right wing populist shit. Same here in Germany with the AfD.
@@juice6521 cos there's money and fame in it.
You could call the new podcast the Farage Barrage
he wont win lol
@@jonathanodude6660 Win what? The election? What am I missing from your comment? The original comment is about a phone call. How do you win a phone call?
He literally has a section of GB news called "barrage the farage"
Literally imagine Farage trying to score a trade deal...
Oh, he probably doesn't believe that "foreigners" have things like currency and trade. That's only for people who say England with three syllables.
He would just sign it just like Truss!
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer How do you even do that? Genuine question, I'm not a native speaker but no matter how hard I try the best I can come up with is really exagerating that G
@@thespanishinquisition4078 IN-GER-LUND. Hard G btw.. like if you were saying the word Growl
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer Not so much that. More that he's rude, uncompromising and Europeans don't really like him and probably think he's stupid... He wouldn't be able to do it.
I'm old enough to remember Farage failing to be elected as an MP 7 times. Once losing out to a dolphin.
All farage ( the IDIOT ) will do, is drive benefit scroungers to vote for Labour who WILL rejoin with the EU and flood the UK even more scroungers
Farage doesn't need to be an MP to cause mayhem, all he has to do is enter the political mess and Tories will sh!t bricks in their underwear
Corrupt isn't it
The Tories killed the Tories. They are just Blairites now, not a single 'conservative' among them. Raise taxes, increase immigration and enlarge government control and spending, does that sound like a Conservative party to anyone !?!
@@HShango very true. One of the only reasons the brexit vote happened was the Tories losing ground to UKIP.
You underestimate how popular Farage is with working class Labour voters… he would damage both parties, but it’s unclear which of them we would destroy. It’s very very possible he could hurt Labour just as much.
I wouldn't call them "working-class Labour voters" exactly, but maybe the sort of voter who went Labour in 2015 and had switched to the Tories by 2019, he might have appeal there, and those voters right now are technically in the Labour column...
Still, though, I think he hurts the Tories more than he helps them. I also think it's kind of a moot point because the Tories are boned anyway.
@DoubtingThomas the working class are obviously very pro-Brexit and pro-Farage. The majority of them voted Brexit, voted Brexit Party in the 2019 EU election, and voted Tory in the last general election.
@@doubtingthomas136 Working Class Britain 🇬🇧 isn't interested in climate crisis nonsense and wokeness. You haven't got a clue. I hate this nonsense of masks 😷 and climate change reparations and terms like The Global South. I don't give a toss.
@DoubtingThomas what the 'reactionary' working class who don't want their country stolen and their kids groomed by 'diverse' gangs of purrvvs
Traditionally he steals votes from both but it's the Tories that will suffer the most next time. That's because he will mostly target the Tories to punish them but also because the many of the seats the Tories won last time were once Labour red wall seats. Standing in these seats will mean the Tories lose them all. Even if he doesn't stand the Tories will lose most.
The Tories are screwed and it's all self inflicted. People won't flock to Labour, they will either vote Reform or simply stop voting altogether.
Farage should do a tour of all the main fishing town and tell them how great Brexit has turned out to be.
He will be beaten up there.
They'd lap it up. The general opinion I've seen in comments sections is that Brexit is still being thwarted by the "Establishment".
We will literally fillet him
@@Calum_S absolutely agreed. And it's true. This is a very easy win for Farage: "you voted Brexit and look how they fucked it up just to spite you"
Fishing tow a? Just go to any industry, it's been bad across the board.
One thing I will never understand about politicians is that they can criticise their opponents but will never add any solutions to aid to their criticisms.
But when they do and they’re criticised they don’t want to hear it out
That's called politics mate, no one understands it, until they're in that world themselves 😶
Liberal democracy (with free elections) is the problem. Honestly, this is why authoritarianism is becoming more popular among average people.
@@kimandre336 as if authoritians would actually listen once they get power.
Edit: changed got>get
@@kimandre336 So true
Because some believe that " you can criticize as much as you want, but not necessarily need to give solution, because it's not their job"
Oh gods, just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, bloody Farage pops up again
Its not Farage that is the ultimate reason for the Conservatives having a bad time.
Ultimately it was Brexit that did this to the conservatives.
Whether they admit it or not, and now its a question of how far will the UK drop from here.
Silly Billy
@@Gary-bz1rf 🤣🤣🤣🤣 which never works as you may think. Tories will fall for the far-right and then they'll try and capture that energy to then just fail in the end. Reform party will just eat up some Tory voters but not enough to govern.
Blame all the normal party’s for falling to improve the country at all in the past 20 years
@@thewingedhussar4188 we will drop even further, the full blown damage hasn't healed yet. It's still raw.
Whatever you might think of Farage, if he does return, it might well cause something that desperately needs to happen - the destruction of the Tory party in it's current form. We need to be rid of this "socialist lite" party, that the Tories now are, and actually get back a proper conservative party.
WELL SAID!
I know a few socialists, not many that would rather see vulnerable people die in their own homes than claw a few crumbs off the tables of billionaire dividend recipients. Maybe I don’t know that many people?
@@wofutokerati - I don't really know how to respond to that. What has that got to do with the destruction of the Tory party in its current state (which is needed).
Another season of "Angry man shouts at the sea".
I imagine his plan (if he has one) will revolve around waiting for Conservative polling to get bad to the point that MPs start sweating about their job security. At this point he'll campaign heavily to position himself as the true right wing opposition before turning the screws on those conservative MPs to defect in desperation. This is then used as further evidence he is becoming the credible 'opposition in waiting' hoping that if he just pips enough seats to beat out the Conservatives he can place himself as the real right wing opposition and focus on getting his party in for 2029. Although he will have most likely heavily cashed out before that point knowing farage.
Yes, his plan will be to try and become the main right wing party in Britain. As it is for all third parties that lean right. But, I doubt he will cash out, given how long he pursued Brexit. He has shown himself to be at least somewhat driven politically.
His plan will be to promise wonderful outcomes to policies that have already proven to be disastrous. In other words...he will continue to lie and swear to it.
If only farage hadn't spent his early time in the public eye sucking up to trump just to try and keep in spot light longer to earn another buk! I would maybe, possibly have just about a millimeter of respect for him. Not to be, because like all the rest of the MP's, he is like cheap car sales man just looking for another way to sell his next con. What's worse, 'if' he is looking like a credible option... we really are in trouble... what have we been reduced too? 😱😭
That is a thought. If the only political parties we have are vying to be the more right wing than each other, what choices do we have?
@@gsismaet5385 what parties are vying to be more right wing than eachother?
Also when he says steepest decline in living standards since records began. When did records begin? Like are we actually saying worse than WW2?
Ah they did say it in another video, I think it was 1956
Also THE LABOUR PARTY STARTED THE NHS IN 1948 WHICH CHURCHILL SAID WOULD BE TO EXPENSIVE TO DO AND NEVER HAVE THEY ADDED MONEY ALWAYS TAKE AWAY, AND THEN WE OWED YANKS BILLIONS AND WE ARE NOW WORSE OFF THAN BACK THEN
It's not "lowest living standards". It's "steepest decline in living standards". As stated it's entirely accurate.
@@alexpotts6520 Even with that caveat , the original comment is still valid, if it included World War 2, that is most likely a steeper drop in living standards as well as lower overall living standards. Thankfully someone mentioned it was from 1956 so after the war.
Rationing and emergency imports/lend lease kept most people afloat during the war. Some people even experienced higher living standards, like urban poor children transferred to rural estates. It was mostly after the war when the cumulative exhaustion of two world wars caught up with everyone that things got pretty bad.
I think you underestimate just who he could take votes from, there is a big chunk of Labour voters who are fed up with the party but who wont vote conservative. Be careful what you wish for.
Thats my view as well, the Tories won the last election outright because the Brexit party run in Labour areas and cut the votes aginst Remain MP's. The Brexit Party did not run in Tory held areas, or areas with Leave leaning Labour MP's. People have short memories.
I think a Farage party would be good for the UK because it will lead to the end of the conservative party.
That's the end goal, oblivion (total decimation of conservatives and their nonsense one nation crap).
More like the end of the world.
@@jake751 haha…..ha
This is playing with fire.
The Labour Party are already going to win the next election handily. We do not need to get Farage involved.
@@jake751 no, just Britain
I thought he had been strung up by the fisheries people by now!!! 😁
Fishing communities have no balls. They protested by driving round Westminster for a few hours. No one even remembers it.
They'll probably vote for him if he returns
He's staying away from the coast. Don't hear of him going down to the Kent and Sussex shorelines shouting at the sea any more.
"Anti-lockdown party" can have so many different definitions 🤣
Pro freedom and liberty
@@DS9TREK You must be some sort of masochist.
@@Stroke999 🤔
The unwanted sequel to an unwanted sequel
Odd how he got the largest vote in British history 🤔
Nah, not for the rest of the world! Best shitshow ever!
@@jdms2830 and still won the biggest vote in British history 😘
12,5% of the vote and only 1 seat out of 650. Jesus christ how bad is it in UK. Terrible
In 2011 we had a referendum about the voting system for UK general elections. The electorate decided to stick with FPTP. Personally i thought that was a big mistake, but i can't bleat cos i wrote "F*** Westminster rule" on my ballot.
Big Chungus Lore?
True true
Yes, indeed
The definition of insanity is repeating the same policies over and over again and expecting a different outcome...
Anything that'll remove votes from the Tories is good in my books.
So is Russia nuking the UK and killing the entire country good?
It would be the equivalent of replacing Arsenic with Cyanide
yeah... what an amazing reason to vote for an extremist......
@@tzvi7989 ikr 🤦♂️
@@sawtooth808 defo a Russian troll in the comments
The most tragic plane crash in history was the one Farage survived..
Ba boom ta.
The wisest thing that be on everyone’s mind currently is investing in different streams of income that doesn’t depend on the govt. especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in Gold, silver and digital currencies(BTC,ETH….)
How can I get in touch with her I’m in need of her assistance
That’s her Whatsappinfo chat her up she’s mostly active there
She’s earned my trust since last year October when I hit my 140k YTD monthly trading profit target.
Doing a pretty good job themselves.
with labour literally running on just "we're not the tories" it wouldn't surprise me to see Reform become a kingmaker
Nah! They won't get any seats for starters, plus to be a king maker you have to be seated in the middle.
Regardless, Labour will will outright.
@Anfield Road labour claim to back a lot of things but do they?
@Anfield Road its very relevant. If people dont have trust in the party it does not matter what they say in the manifesto as past labour election performances have shown. Proposals are worthless without real weight behind them as the tories have shown the past few decades and labour seem to be copying them.
@Anfield Road the fact that you cant see how trust is important to how good a manifesto is or how it is of "substance" is why we're in this mess with the tories in the first place.
"Whether they implement it or not is another thing" not to the voter as the feasibility and believability of the manifesto given the nation's current situation and past broken or kept promises in past manifestos is what affects future manifestos greatly. Labour could back the perfect policies that will not fail to make the uk the best country on earth but whats the point if people think theyre lying?
It would literally be the only useful thing he’s ever done.
It's hard for getting rid of the n***** rapist and murderers
I have voted Tories all my life.Sunak and Hunt has put a stop to that. Will never ever vote Tories again.Whichever party that Nigel Farage will lead and be in control of,I would gladly give my vote to...but,I wil not vote for Reform,as long as Richard Tice is the leader.
Wait. Did I see that right? Are y’all using the greater than symbol when describing less than?
> is greater
< is less
Great video but i noticed a edit mistake.
At 4:40 you guys made a edit mistake showing to be more then (>)200 seats and more then 100 seats instead of less (
As some Tory backbenchers said recently. The conservatives are winning votes from nurses and labourers in the north because on a nurses salary in Hull you can afford to buy a house, albeit a modest house. The conservatives have lost the votes from company directors and high earners in London, because even £100k a year isn't enough to buy a house in London.
Affordable housing is the most important thing in society. When housing is un-affordable, people can't settle down. People aren't willing to commit. They don't comitt to jobs, to relationships, to anything. Because they don't have security in their living accommodation. This means people are having less children, later in their life, resulting in an aging population and lack of future workforce.
For example, in my last house share, it wasn't a bunch of students or graduates just starting out. It was full of middling 20s professionals who a generation ago would have found partners, moved into a house or flat they owned, and be starting families for themselves. But in the current housing crisis in London, all they can manage (despite being degree educated professionals) is sharing a flat with other professionals in a HMO.
That's depressing. In Hong Kong it has long been worse. People must start their family in their childhood bedroom. Problem is sometimes that was a bunk bed in the living room. Waiting for public housing meant they might no longer be able to have a kid by the time they get a unit.
Farage would take voters away from most probably both Labor and the tories, but with Labors lead it would surely hurt the tories more, So, would Farange’s campaign basically just help Labor out more then it would help his own party out. This would be interesting because Farange is closer to the tories then he is to Labor political.
I don't Farage envisions winning a working majority or anywhere close. He just wants to show he can wreck the Tories so they are at his mercy going forward. If he can replicate what the Canadian Reform party did in the 90s then he can force a merger too. He wins by virtue of moving the needle on policy.
If farage does run, it will be hillarious.
Another clown for this tragic circus
Nigel Farage will return back into politics back into The Conservative Party He worked before
Would love farage to come back we need a viable 3rd party.
I dont want to back either of the tories or labour.
Like him or not he's charismatic
Charismatic to wot? Skunks?
You're EXACTLY the kind of sucker he's looking for.
Under our system there is no viable 3rd party unless they have regional support that is high enough to outright win a seat, coming second gets u no seats.
The Tories don't need Farage's help to fail. They are doing a good job of that themselves.
Farage aiding in killing the Tories: Hurray!
Farage then directly replacing them as the main right wing party: ...
Nope. Nope and *NOPE* bloody hell could you imagine if that actually happened? I think I'd genuinely consider moving to another country.
Nigel Farage: Happy Birthday Hugh Jaynus
really doesn't have any shame Farage, does he
what's your problem with him
@@MegaShrooom Dragging the UK in one of its worst economic crises of recent times for his absurd ideas of Ukip. Is that enough?
@@matteosalsedo8316 your opinion
Considering there is a history of Farage following TLDR, Jack giving advice on what to focus on can only be seen as an endorsement. Will jack make the jump and try to win a seat for Farage?
(/s)
Put down the crack pipe. You've had too much.
Nigel don't you know you should never return to the scene of a crime. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
UK might as well give Farage a chance, considering that Sunak, Truss and Johnson have clearly ruined UK so far by stalling Brexit being fully realized.
Farage would fix the immigration problems so quickly and tear the Tories apart, so I hope he does
How would he fix it? Gun boats in the channel?
@@jaexiusnem1267 that would be more than our government have done in a decade
@@Welshie. It would be as effective at fixing the problem as any Tory government, too.
Honestly, if he somehow became the PM, I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to finish off the british economy and "restart" the IRA within his first month in office...
only reason to let farage in: it would be a fucking meme.
I hope Farage returns to politics, he's been all talk no action post brexit
At this point all talk is preferable to action XD
He won't last. Everyone knows he is a Putin bot now and we have all seen the damage that Brexit has done.
@@dallysinghson5569
at this point he has criticized every single MP, it's for him to show he can do it better at this point, if Brexit is as great as he claims it is.
🤣 Banana Republic Britain ..never fails to disappoint
Banana monarchy
I can't believe I actually want Farage back, did I say that out loud?
Still can’t believe that people would support Farage, who first got the Brexit going, only to step down the very next day.
Maybe I’m just too European for that, though…
It's a reflection of the long-running divide in the tories, Farage will definitely hurt the Tories. I actually think Farage will be surprised by how disillusioned the public is with his messaging now after the real outcomes of Brexit. He's clearly sensing the change in the public, incoming more grand speeches and waffle about how he cares for the public and brexit being done correctly like there is some magical upside that can be reached if people follow him.
You say this like it's ridiculous, but this message clearly resonates with the public, at least with Brexit supporters. Brexit was at its core a populist movement, popular with the public and unpopular with the political class. When that same political class was told to enact Brexit, they kicked and screamed and dragged their heels and fucked it up. Of course people will look to other politicians who actually support the policies they are enacting.
Can spot a remainer whinger a mile off can't ya.
Brexit was also descibed as a chance to kick an a### that was rarely raised/vulnerable. Voters will def. be in that mood coming up, so get yer Doc Martins on.
Give Farage a chance and 2 years in the office. Like Boris, you will never see him again. It is better than letting him mess around and nurturing Brexit voters.
Small error, but in the part about how many seats the Tories could win, the infographics show greater than 200 seats and greater than 100 seats instead if less than for both (> instead of
Farage won't run. That's to much like hard work for him. He'd rather make tons of money talking about how the Tories are failing and how he could turn things around.
This is a great reminder that my country, the United States, doesn't have a monopoly on atrocious leaders. It's both comforting and depressing.
Your politicians/parties plus our system would be the ultimate nightmare since all our power is concentrated into the lower chamber. There are almost no checks and balances. We still operate on conventions.
Yes. The are other countries outside America. Great observation.
Farage is great
Farage is a helmet with one slight pro, he's not a Tory, but he is a helmet and that cancels out any good.
Sunak inherited a mess from previous prime ministers and he needs time to get the economy of the UK in order again. Farage is probably closer to Liz Truss in his approach to the economy and we all know how that went. However, it would probably be wise of Sunak to not talk too much about closer relationship with EU right now.
Not sure Farage is really comparable to Liz Truss (who lest we forget was once a Lib Dem!) They are both mad and dangerous, but for different reasons.
Liz Truss approach wasnt that bad but the timing really sucked. You do not decrease taxes and stimulate the economy while inflation is running hot. She should've waited for things too cool down and then slowly unfold her plan.
I would also add that getting in debt on top of lowering taxes just shows how incompetent her team was...
Other than that the plan was ok
We need lower taxes especially at the higher income levels. We are losing the brightest minds to go to US (for 2x salary and 10% lower taxes) and we get the low skill immigrants from India in return...
That is also part of the reason the Autumn budget squeezed the people earning around 60k/y more than the people earning 120k/y... Better to get some of their taxes than None if they leave...
That having fiscal and monetary policy acting against eachother was ever allowed to happen is baffling.
@@catmonarchist8920 At least it showed that UK Central Bank is still an independent institution...
'Brexit' was such a strange thing to do for the people in the UK. According to all forecast the standard of living compared to European Union will fall 4-10% in the UK till 2030. How can British politicians spin that in the following years?
Edit: It will be nice for us in EU to visit the UK even now and especially in the coming years since we can purchase products and eat+live like kings - a bit like in '70s in in Spain.
Edit: I think - as a Finnish person - the UK will be welcomed back in the 2050. NATO is the most important thing in Europe and the UK will be in NATO whether in the EU or not.
Part of me wants Fragae to succeed in getting some (short term) crack at government - if only to his meaningless unicorn dreams (and those of his followers) hit the wall of reality. To see him become increasingly very unpopular - as a populist - as his much vaunted promises rapidly evaporate - along with all hope among his devotees ----would be heartening to see.
It doesn't work like that though. When it doesn't work, people don't abandon their beliefs, they just push the betrayal narrative.
I don’t think anything he does will reduce his popularity. If people still wanna vote for him now, then they’ll vote for him through anything
@@Sentient_Blob once he becomes PM he will demonstrate how deluded selfish and foolish he is. Uk needs EU more than EU needs the Uk.
I'm with you, and when his policy's work and he makes gains in the polls even more, I'll laugh.
You seem to think members of the far right will come to a logical conclusion that their ideas won't work and then abandon them. If 2016-2020 of far-right control in America showed anything, it is that members of the far right simply double/triple/quadruple down on their terrible ideas. To do otherwise would be admitting they were wrong, which they would rather die than do, just look at how many covid deniers ended up dying from covid.
It's better never to give these fools a chance at power, lest they grow ever more delusional.
The Tories aren't really right wing, they're not doing anything about the problems right wing people care about. The Tories deserve to lose seats, they simply don't have a clue what they're doing
The right being split amongst parties would help the left get in.
If Farage gets any influence whatsoever, the UK deserves it.
I loved watching him making everyone crazy at EU parliament. Would awesome seeing him against the opposition
Farage just has to say ‘vote for me as I’m white British and I don’t want outsiders either’ and Sunak is over.
The last time a race focused candidate appeared on British TV, his party was sunk within the week.
Your characterising of British ppl as being focused on race is offensive and untrue.
Being concerned about immigration levels on an island of 60million, when we have issues around social services is 100% reasonable.
It's horrible to see ppl with your views.
I don't think this is quite accurate. There are certain racist elements within the Conservative Party, but they don't mind about the skin colour of other conservatives - in fact they often brag about their diversity to troll the Labour Party. It's when ethnic minorities defy Tory orthodoxy that the mask slips (see for example the appalling treatment Diane Abbott has had to put up with for years).
Me, personally, I’m going to France. Then I will throw away my passport, get a dinghy, and paddle back to Dover. Then, I will be picked up on the beach, taken to a nice hotel, and everything, will be paid for. SORTED!!!! 😊
@@terencefairweather6535 Make sure you've had your diphtheria jab, I hear there was an outbreak in the holding centre recently...
Somehow, Farage returned.
Like a floating turd.
No further exposition necessary.
"Right wing"
It's not an either/or situation. Farage might split the Tory vote (to a small degree) which will reduce Tory power in parliament, but he won't be at the head of a real challenge.
Remember the Brexit referendum was the reaction of Cameron to the UKIP "threat". This didn't increase Farage's political power in the long run.
What any voter or MP who's considering backing whatever party Farage heads should think of is this: where are his past supporters, allies and financial backers now? Whatever Farage does is for the benefit of Farage.
well if sunak survive the 2 months he can make it till nxt election
nigel very interesting on his return to politiccs
You silly goose
Why 2 months specifically?
I despise Farage but one silver lining to him cropping back up again could be the cause for proportional representation being pushed further.
But pushed by a guy who can only appeal to maybe 20% of the electorate; is that really the sort of advocate you want for your cause?
@@alexpotts6520 well I don’t like the guy but the UK desperately needs PR and the more voices arguing for it the better. It would be good to have someone on the right pushing it as currently it’s mostly a left wing issue. Also if Reform UK did eat into the conservative voting base then it would reduce the massively disproportionate benefits that the Tories get from FPTP which would help the argument.
@@TheTrackRecord The problem with PR - not the principle itself but the discourse surrounding it - is that the people who want it by and large only want it for the power they think it will give them. This applies equally on the left, where for the last decade people have moaned about the voting system as cope to avoid the difficult question of how they have failed to defeat a series of increasingly poor Conservative leaders; and it applies to Farage and his succession of electoral vehicles, he also wants PR purely because it would give him seats in parliament that he can't otherwise have. (And of course, the converse also applies - the people who oppose it, principally the Conservative Party, oppose it because they think it would lose them power.)
So everyone talks about PR in terms of the effect it would have on British electoral outcomes, and the question of "is PR a good idea?" becomes indistinguishable from "would my political party benefit from PR?" Nobody ever goes to the heart of the matter, and asks the really important questions, such as "should everyone's vote count equally?" or "is political compromise inherently a good thing?"
TL;DR you want bipartisan support for PR? Then stop talking about it in terms of partisan advantage!
BET HE DOESNT GO ANYWHERE NEAR THE FISHING COMMUNITIES, THAT POLICY DIDN'T GO WELL DID IT HAHAHA
I would say Brexit has caused enough trouble for Britain, so if Farage would campaign with more hard-line Brexit, he will run into trouble.
I don’t think Farage will do any better than the lot we have now.
He won't but he can split the vote on the right so they get decimated.
Farage could go to a pub, get drunk while getting milkshaked and throw darts at a policy dartboard and do a better job. Hell any of the actual joke constituency candidates like count binface could do better by unironically following his policies.
As long as Nigel Fartage stays away from the EU parliament, I'm OK. He probably appeals to the 30% of the people on the cultural far right. They are present is virtually all European countries.
I'm just looking forward to the BJ review on if he lied to parliament and will be suspended
If his party and the Tories both become minor parties, I’m fine with that. More seats for Labour
A third gammon and kipper party? Farage might be in it for the money. If it hurts the Tories I'm happy.
The amount of damage he's done with Brexit, I would still be worried even if it hurts the Tories.
@@idontwanttopickone Yes because we need more anti aspirational values and wokeness with climate crisis reparations and mask mandates 😷 to injections 💉 and furloughing. The UK 🇬🇧 is finished now since the pandemic anyway. Also the referendum was in 2016 and also if we're gonna have this nonsense might as well be outside The EU anyway. I am fed up with this nonsense now of mask 😷 and vaccines to climate change reparations its all anti aspirational values. Even as a Mosque going man if Farage says this stuff I will say excellent. We need to restart aspirational values. There's nothing wrong with wanting nice clothes and footwear to a nice house and a nice car and pets.
@@idontwanttopickone Spot on! That evil lying, fox hunt supporting, Putin admiring scumbag Farage brainwashes people which helps change the narrative and with FPTP we end up with even Labour afraid to speak out against the lies instead pandering to those who don`t want FOM.
I don't see the need for an "anti-lockdown party" in 2021 - plenty of those in No. 10. during the Premiership of the Sentient Ham known as Boris Johnson.
I don’t like the divisions that he’s happy to create. It’s awful how his style of politics creates rifts between friends and families.
Brexit wasn’t a hot topic before the referendum but now it’s something that everyone has a strong opinion on and will argue at length.
I personally blame the vitriolic language and tactics that Farage uses to stir up the rhetoric to conduct himself.
I wonder if he has any shame.
I was actually thinking about this yesterday
Boris only got the vote because of brevity. Forage needs to head reform and they need to be the party that leads the country
Release the dolphin.
go fetch one from northumberland.
Run like the Canadian reform party in 1993, split the vote and decimate the conservative vote. Keep them out of power for a decade.
Nice video.
However, ">" is the "greater than" symbol as you've used it here, you were looking for "< 200" for less than two hundred.
Farage supports proportional representation, i hope that a big farage win would put pressure on the uk todo away with the corrupt democratically deficient fptp system. That way more people will be more inclined to vote for parties that best fit them and parliament will best represent the will of the nation rather than just labour or tories holding government.
The only way is for Labour to win short of a majority so the small parties can force it through.
Right wing vote split...and tactical voting on the Left Happy Days!
Not true. It's one thing to split the Right, but it won't be enough if the Left is still too weak to take over. And I despise Starner.
The Tories are on course for massive loss. Even with Sunak’s stability the Tories will loose. So what can he split? Trice has two ideas. Brexit and Trusseconomics which were great successes.
I moved up one knot up the pay scale today (I’m a teacher). With the holidays in mind, on Black Friday and back pay to September, I set my alarm for
4am. Wow! … wow ??? Wait what? Yes I now (with back pay) earn £65 less than last month…
Do not underestimate Farage or the disdain the British public has for both Labour and the Conservatives, if Farage and all the other right of centre parties get their act together and work as one, expect to see Reform pick up over 100 seats at the next election. No one really knows what Labour stands for, they certainly don't represent workers and the Conservatives have literally lost the plot. The other big danger you did not mention is the number of voters who will not vote because no party represents them, expect to see the lowest ever poll turn out. I'm an entrepreneur, I invent, I make things happen and I see Britain's future trading relationship with the English speaking world being the largest growth area, I also agree with Farage that China is the biggest single threat facing the world today. Our relationship with Europe will wane as the EU becomes ever less united, with the real prospect of the poorer nations leaving to form their own, less regulated version of the EU, and being made up mostly of former East European nations, they will want to protect themselves against Russia. Germany cannot be trusted, they are far too in bed with China and as Germany's historic record shows, Germans only care about Germans and the German government sees all other EU nations as useful idiots in their desire to rule Europe. We are in for an interesting time.
What did Farage think about Truss tax cuts?
🎉Split the tories❤ Split the tories❤🎉
[Labour can be more than the official opposition]
Soo Fartage got back from Florida, does he have an orange ring around his mouth?
I don't get how people can still think Brexit is a good thing after everything that has happened so far
Thats cos you are a numpty
Brexit was always going to be short term harm with the prospect for long term success.
Stubborn people will always ignore people or the facts (hardcore raw facts/reality) that's brexiteer people's for you in a fat nut shell.
If you don't get how people can still think brexit is a good thing, then you don't understand working class voters!
@@kravan5063 hahaha. If you still think there is any hope for long term prosperity you're delusional
IN TIMES OF TROUBLE, the far left and the far right grow.
It'll be good to see more people move to the left and see more support, not only for unions and community projects, but also more people genuinely looking at our systems of government and realising the need for change.
Sadly the same is true for the far right, and they'll use the hard times of today as fuel, and fan the flames of bigotry, blaming others for the flaws of this country's politics and our conditions as a whole rather than tackling the systemic inequality we've been stuck in as the Tories and the Blairites get the rich richer and the poor poorer.
In difficult times we need to come together, the left build communities to ease the burden and point their anger at the system that tries to use them; the right gather followers to rage against whatever scapegoats they can target their fury towards.
Nice. Split the vote on the right so Labour has an easier time getting into power.
Not nice. Labour will win the next election anyway, we could do with the toxic influences on public discourse.
This was the conventional wisdom in 2014, that the Tories would suffer more from a Farage/UKIP surge. In the end it was Labour who suffered far more, and here we are.
True, a lot of those voters Labour lost are already with the Tories after Brexit, but I wouldn't bet they all are. It can get worse. Not only that, Farage has shown himself quite willing to tell people to vote Tory where necessary to further his interests and if he deems Labour to be less to his liking.
Therefore this is a broadcast of those with short memories.
Ah farage,. The hero they deserve
That's a little far even in name rhey are still human
😂
'utterly rooted' a very appropriate bit of Aussie slang appropriated there.
Sir Les would be proud...
The grifter's gonna grift ... "surprise".
Ugh. The UK since Brexit is very embarrassing, regardless of which way you voted and your political leaning - the one thing we can agree on is that it has all been a clusterf*ck of grand proportions.
We're living in a very interesting time politically. The landscape of British politics could change completely in the next 10-15 years. Say Farage and or Reform UK take a chunk that big of conservative votes. That might be good for Labour, they would definitely appear like the best option for both centrists and progressives in England and Wales but at the same time Scottish and Irish nationalists could grow significantly as well. France, Italy, Germany and Spain have changed a lot already and Britain could be next. Historians in 2,100 will have a lot of fun researching the first quarter of the current century.
SNP currently have 48 out of 59 seats in Scotland. They could take Labour's single scottish seat. Tory also have 6 seats. They likely won't get the 4 Lib Dem seats. In 2017, SNP got 54 seats. They are about at their limit. They have a ceiling of 55 unless they stand and win outside Scotland.
yes, separate those right wing extremists off into their own little Farage lala land.
Farage actually has lot of working class labour supporters so it could slightly damage labour
@@kingbread5808 I think you will find that was just for brexit.