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I think you intentionally undermine the success of Black Panther by stating that Black Panther is one of the highest grossing movies of all time. It is not "ONE OF". . .it is the highest grossing movie in world cinema HISTORY! FULL STOP! I hear an attempt to negate this by stating it is one of the highest because this is the only Marvel movie that has achieved this by tapping into the black african market. No movie will never be achieve this again without this being the driving factor.
I realised when watching the movie, Thanos knew Stark’s name because Stark was responsible for killing people with his weapons, wars have two sides so by giving one army the weapons Stark was essentially killing the other half like Thanos does now. *And* when Thanos tells Starlord he likes him it’s because Peter understands the idea of sacrificing to save the many which is why he lets Peter go, same with Wanda. This just shows how deeply Thanos believes in what he’s doing. He’s not a typical hothead powered by vengeance, he truly believes what he’s doing is right, same with Kilmonger and that makes him a good villain.
Agreed about your second paragraph, but that is an odd interpretation for Tony/Thanos as Tony would hardly be a standout (especially compared to someone like Thor who has been fighting wars as a leader for 1000+ years) and I highly doubt Thanos would pay attention to small conflicts (which on the grand Thanos scale, any wars Tony had any involvement in would be) over a couple decades on Earth. Anyway, the Russos confirmed that Thanos knew of Tony because he looked into the failure of the Chitauri invasion in Avengers 1 and learned that Tony was the one to destroy his forces and ultimately the reason his plan to invade Earth failed.
Something I found refreshing about Thanos is how unique a villain he is. Clearly he’s the film’s protagonist. It’s scary how much he thinks his vision of life in the universe is the right one. The fact that instead of snapping up more space and resources for life he is adamant that the only way is to exterminate half of all sentient life. I think it enforces the idea that though he is rational he is also indeed a Mad Titan! Then there is the whole logical but twisted sense of fairness and mercy he possesses. He annihilates randomly without pretenses of social class, or nitpicking victims, it’s 50% death and it’s wickedly fair in that sense without a doubt. And with the Gauntlet and Stones he exterminated painlessly, no torture or pain, just random disintegration. To top it all off he doesn’t seek to become essentially God to rule and subjugate the universe, he has a goal, a mission, that he thinks makes him the unsung hero of the universe that’ll never be understood or praised by grateful life; but he has done it and will watch the fruits of his great labor and leave life now to their, as he sees it, better future and fate. He has a messiah complex and has sacrificed what he loves for the greater good... 😈 Mad Titan Thanos!
Ruben Avalos that is the things about Thanos. He represents what a strongman leader is. Willing to eliminate anyone even the innocent just to fix the problem.
In a crude kind of way, exterminating half of all life does sorta make more sense than creating more space and resources. Life grows exponentially and because of that if he were to double up all available resources, life would catch up a lot faster to those resources than half of all life to the current resources (in theory at least). Let's say if you were to think of resources as bread. For example, if we were to say that there were 100 people and 100 pieces of bread and a piece of bread would last a person for a day. And assuming that creating 1 bread costs the same amount of energy from the gauntlet as killing a person. Seeing as how the gauntlet and stones broke in the end if we were to believe that he would only have the energy to either kill 50 people or create 50 more bread. The only two outcomes we would have would either be to have 50 people with 100 bread, which would last them 2 days or 100 people with 150 pieces of bread, which would only last them a day and a half. So with that logic, killing half of the people is the correct choice.
Ruben Avalos I don’t think that Thanos can add to the universe. Yeah he can make more food from elements in the environment. But by doing so, you still take away from the environment. Get it? And he cannot add more matter to the universe. Hashtag Balance. So destroying half of the life, he not only gives those who are alive more to work with, but he returns elements to the earth with the lives he sacrificed. By making more food, he takes away from the environment, and imbalances more.
DrVonJay Reality can do many things. Don’t exactly know the extent of the Stones powers but it may be possible. But I guess there is some reasoning in what you’re saying, but not for certain imo.
After Apocalypsis and Steppenwolf I didn't believed I was going to take serious and be fascinated by a giant super powerful colorful bad guy. BOY I was wroooong. Thank god I was wrong.
The writers in MCU seem to have taken notes. Besides, there already have been villains with a shallow motivation, like Malekith and Ronan (though Ronan might get some depth in the Captain Marvel movie).
Yea, that's mainly because the writers (Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely) and directors (Joe and Anthony Russo), and even actor Josh Brolin, have opted to extensively give Thanos emotional depth and a tragic backstory, and even make him more-or-less the protagonist of _Infinity War,_ something that both Apocalypse and Steppenwolf were never given.
Oh no, Spiderman died. *Sees that there's going to be a Spiderman: Homecoming 2. Oh no, most of the Guardians of the Galaxy died. *Sees that there's going to be a third Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm starting to think that the MCU shouldn't announce movies too far in advance. The dramatic tension isn't as strong.
Thanks Hermione yeeeeeeah because without the prior announcements people would believe those sequels wouldn’t happen or those characters are dead for good...? Announcing sequels of popular movies encourages public investment in marvel and Disney.
Funny 'cause even knowing all that, there was enough dramatic tension during fight scenes and the lot to really convince me that the stakes were HIGH and any of them could potentially die. I think it was the way the movie begun, that which essentially reduced Thor Ragnarok to a Scrappy story, setting up its tone and how our heroes are going to be treated. At the end, of course, I did go, "hang on, these characters have sequels planned -- or at the very least has made a significant impact either financially or culturally (re: Black Panther) for the execs to milk for what's worth -- so they definitely aren't dead right?" but there was enough uncertainty that ran through the core of A:IW that had me figuratively biting my nails both during the movie and long after it. That said, that was MY experience with A:IW (along with a few others that I've talked to), so I can't totally speak for your experience or everyone else's. Just my two cents anyway. Also as jimmy2k4o mentioned, the announcement of these sequels encourages public investment in the MCU -- and considering how far Marvel Studios has gone with their Cinematic Universe and how it has become deeply rooted within the public consciousness and film industry, they don't exactly have anything to lose with the way they churn out these movies (for one, they don't just do the typical summer-blockbuster once a year anymore) and have it marketed so early. At the very least I would feel more compelled to keep up with their IW storyline because, if Peter Parker not truly being dead is a foregone conclusion thanks to the sequel, I want to know HOW that's going to happen. But anyway.
When Ebony Maw is torturing Dr. Strange with those clear needle things he says "these were originally intended for micro surgery" or something. I didn't notice it the first time but upon second viewing it kinda felt like Maw was just making small talk with Strange because he knew he was a surgeon before.
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The scene where Thanos throw gamora remind me of Stannis Baratheon. Stannis also sacrifie his own daughter because he believe that's the only way to save everyone away from the Lanisters.
There is no cliffhanger, there's a very definite resolution to this film. The protagonist had a complete plot arc, a complete character arc, and succeeded in his goals whilst the antagonists failed. If Avengers 4 hadn't been announced this film barely even hints at a continuation other than that the 'heroes' where the ones who failed.
I feel like you're so right, but I don't want you to be! I know is natural to let go characters to let others come in and the new ones are so great but I can't let go old characters like Tonny Stark, Thor, Loki... I simply cant. :( Anybody feeling the same?
Sara Samaletdin yeah you’re right, we have 3 Spider-Man’s, imagine if it was just Tobey Maguire it gets old. Keep recycling the hero but hopefully not the same villains (we have 2 vultures) when we could’ve got new villains. The point is you’ll move past on and love the new movies
Everything else made sense except the comparison between Thanos and Killmonger. Killmonger, though spurred on by his tragic past just like Thanos, was not doing anything for the greater good. It was all for himself. While Thanos truly believes that he is saving the world from the fate that plagued his home planet. At the end he does not crown himself king but retreats into a peaceful corner and leaves the world to itself.
But that is not the character. In the comics once he can not impress his love he becomes cruel and more sadistic. The whole reason for him wiping out half the universe is to impress lady death.
Do me the difference between Thanos and Killmonger. Was that Thanos had a plan built on logic yet immoral reasoning. Killmonger had a grudge built on a vendetta.
The movie didn't leave me stunned, it left me sobbing and crying waterfalls while my subconcious was trying to calm me down by remembering me that there will be a 2nd part where they are able to fix everything
Im going to be really annoyed if they bring the dead characters back to life yes i like spiderman and doctor strange but whats the point of killing them if your just going to revive them later seems like bad writing
matt carnes I think it was for the dramatic plot twist and cliffhanger and for the plot in the next part, I'm pretty sure that the avengers who didn't die don't just want to leave the universe with half of the population dead, so they will have to fix it. I think that it was good writing because of the twist that mostly new characters died even though we expected someone older like iron man, the especially emotional scene with spiderman was very well done and I believe that it will have an impact on iron man in the next movie, the deaths of the characters will drive the left avengers to find a way to bring them back. And like in the video, I theorize that they'll use the soul stone which requires a soul, so one of the old avengers would sacrifice himself which then would end the era of the original avengers to make place for the new. I like what the video said, those 2 movies are like passing on the torch to the next generation. So visualizing that by rescuing them (and the universe) and dying for them is in my eyes very symbolical and amazingly written.
Katja Abrantes No the directors confirmed the deaths are permanent. Also the ending isn't a cliffhanger it's the real ending because it's Thanos' movie not the Avengers if it was an Avengers movie then yeah its a cliffhanger but since it's Thanos movie it's not a cliffhanger because the protagonist won.
Linnyboy dude dont be so harsh, you talk like in all the films so far they were killing characters and bringing them back with no reason! and that's false. The one case except for this movie is loki dying several times and he was brought back because of the peoples' rejection to his actual death. No more characters have done it. So the "How many times" that you start with has no reason. Secondly, this whole movie and the next above all have this all thing of going back to the past to change things so it means they are coming back because they're erasing the present situation and furthermore the most common theory is that they are not actually dead but inside the mind stone world. So dont go talking shit unless you give logic reasons to support your words.
One thing the whole situation with the Soul Stone reminded me of, was Wagners opera "The Ring". The ring in the story is the ultimate power, but in order to keep and use it, you have to give up all love.
I just noticed, in Gamoras "Mugshot" scene ( 1:40 ) from GotG, it says "Last of the Zehoberei people" but in Infinity War, Thanos claims that half her people are alive and thriving... was he lying? Or is it just a continuity error?
You make the movie sound so much smarter than what I watched! I feel like I want to rewatch it to actually see the facts you pointed out here, more clearly.
As much as I appreciate the points in the video, I disagree with a few things. The video make it look like the old Avengers are like a burden and the Infinity War movie signals that they should retire. I never felt that they are overshadowing the newcomers. In fact, both the old and new school are working side by side. If they want to retire or end up dying, it is OK. But saying that it time to step off and let the newcomers take centre stage did not sit well with me. Captain America is immortal and never age. He have been doing his job since World War and is still going strong. Is it fair to say that he is hindering the new class of Avengers? As far as I can see the old heroes are happy that they have more fighting alongside them and they are recruiting more. The newcomers are doing what they want freely, unless they are working under the directions of a leader. As for the old ones making mistakes, everyone does that. Even superheroes. The newcomer Star-Lord lost his cool and enabled Thanos to escape. That is a mistake, right? Whoever has made the mistake, all the Avengers both 'elder' and 'new' have to fix it. I am watching 'The Secret War' series and when the default Avengers were gone, new ones took their place. And before disappearing, Captain America told them to do what they have to in their stead and avenge. He did not say, " Oh it is time for us to go and so we are passing on our legacy." If some old school Avengers decide to retire, as I have said before, that is fine. But they have yet to reach that point (unless they die), well at least most of them. Seeing how Marvel comics are written over the ages indicate that they will come back again with new stories being written about them. And the video's explanation about the inner meanings of the stones seems rather forced. Not everything has to have some hidden meaning. The Avengers movie may be full of surprises but it does not necessarily have to be symbolical. Of course, I could be wrong.
I agree with you. They aim right but I think they missed a point. I think the dissapearing with have the torch of the legacy in a parrallel universe. It's a way to reboot the franchise and for some caracter/actor to retire from the MCU.
I can’t wait for Avenger’s 4, I love MCU and ScreenPrism!! The older characters have to go out on a heroic, sacrificial high note rather than the result of Thanos’ plan. That’s a much more satisfying transition!
@screenPrism this analysis was spot on ! But there was a mistake that is commonly made and that is to credit Tony Stark with sort of starting the MCU in 2007 -2008 but in fact it's actually Blade that launched the MCU in 1998 with the movie and series of the same name. (The third film stars Ryan Reynolds as a Pre cursor Dead pool kind of character). Please do an analysis on the Blade Film(s), it would be interesting to see how they measure up to the MCU today and what connections there might be between the storylines and or characters.
Did anyone else think "hmm that's not a bad idea" when Thanos explained what he wanted to do? Not to mention what he sacrifices to do it and the fairness of how it will be done. Pretty brilliant imo.
To me, before I watch, this movie was about sacrifice. In every scene there is a choice to sacrifice something for either the greater good or to advance your own resolve.
So pleased that you mentioned Malthus - we basically walked out after the movie talking of him - but disappointed that you did so without mentioned how thoroughly his ideas have been debunked and how flawed any measures based on them are bound to be.
Another fantastic video. While many know that deaths are not permanent, I'm very interested to see how they are going to handle characters who survived. It will be very interesting to see how everyone deals with their losses. These deaths open lots of opportunities to explore these characters even deeper and I'm pretty sure Russo Brothers are going to direct the hell out of it.
True. In terms of Groot, Bucky, and T'Challa - the characters close to them already lost them once. So exploring that grief again would interesting. Also if Shuri's alive it means the crown and mantle of Black Panther passes to her at a pivotal time for Wakanda. And Tony Stark's loss of Peter is especially interesting when he stated he dreamed about being a father at the beginning of the film.
The Nova Crops at Xandar wiped out off screen, damn they should start from there, but because the end credit scene from thor ragnarok, we never see thanos attacking Xandar
Wonderful video. I think the alternate reality where the dead are alive is intriguing but unlikely. I feel if people come back before the Snap it should involve using stones other than time for it would feel you can go back anywhere. I kind of want them to be permanently dead but I do not feel like that will be the case even if it might take to Guardians 3 for Gamora to be resqued.
I only got into the MCU because of Robert Downey Jr. His departure, whether through death or hanging up the suit, is definitely going to hit me hardest.
Yeah, but according to his philosophy, the 50% that does survive will be able to do so in complete prosperity, never once having to worry about a shortage of resources. In Thanos' mind, this is the best possible consequence and therefore beneficial to the greatest number of people, which, AT least to him, completely justifies his actions.
secret pieperson no it is utilitarian because as Thanos states about his own home planet, there wasn’t enough resources and everyone on this planet went extinct - rich or poor. Thanos’ intentions are pure, his means justify the end because it’s either 50% live fulfilling lives where they don’t go to bed hungry or 100% die due to extinction. His method allows people to live good lives without fighting for food or starving like Gamora did before he took her in, he is essentially the saviour in this narrative. Yeah every now and then he’ll have to cleanse the population to 50|50 again but in his utopia not a single person will be without wealth compared to the current climate of most having nothing and some having too much. The only fault he has is playing God, nature has balance so his theory will eventually fall apart but essentially, *(tl;dr)* the bare bones of his idea is utilitarian because it’s 2 bad lives < 1 good life
Gamoras fault Gamora tells thanos where soul stone is->gamora dies->nebula tells quill what happened to gamora->quill messes up plan->which makes doctor strange give the time stone->which causes thanos able to reset the mind stone destruction->causing him to snap his fingers Or nebulas for telling quill But she got lucky and survived the snap
If Loki didn't take the tesseract from Asgard.. It would have been destroyed along with Hela and Heimdal and his people would have been still alive. He is the embodiment of mischief.
So one thing I am wondering about is where was the Hulk during the final battle? He was completely MIA! I really wanted to see a rematch between the Hulk and Thanos...
The old giving way to the new through sacrifice, done respectfully and tactfully. That's my hope for A4. I want the new, but the old respected in its passing while still pointing out their flaws. Basicly everything TLJ didnt do.
Before this movie and before knowing anything about Thanos, I always said Darkseid was better mostly because I am more of a DC Fan, but after this I realized that Darkseid is kind of a boring villain, Thanos motivation is awesome and it kind of makes you think about morals and whether or not he's even bad at all, while Darkseid is your run of the mill "I'm going to destroy everything and rule the Universe" kind of Villain, all he wants is to teraform the planet to make it like Apokalips which is basically what General Zod wanted to do, only slightly different he wants to make it a new Krypton. It's sort of a boring motivation.
I don't think Thanos had the ability to snap his fingers and make more materials. When he alters reality he doesn't *actually* create anything, he casts an illusion. When he finally snaps the people effected dont simply disappear, they turn to ash. What I'm getting at is that he can't create or destroy matter. He simply changes its form. It seems that the infinity stones still have to adhere to some semblance of the laws of physics.
Guys this is just a theory but i think they will time travel to get all the infinity stones but thanos from 2014 got up to them and fought them on the avengers base but all the one that got snapped came back and they help the avengers fight but tony sacrifices himself and dies, idk its just a theory
A question that remain is why Hulk was afraid to appear. (except for the comic relief). I think it has something to do with the parralel universe Strange saw
I think its possibly he is too scared due to the fact that the only people in the MCU that can even contented with the Hulk can be counted on one hand. That was until infinity war where Thanos not only beats him he outright dominates him with little difficulty. so my guess he's going through a crisis of confidence due to the fact that he may not be the strongest there is.
It's honestly a really understandable extension of Bruce and the Hulk's development. Yes, they're technically the same character, but the dynamic between the two as separate entities has always been a trademark of their story. Think about it... Up until this point, the MCU version of the Hulk has never been beaten. He's never really had to worry about his life, because he's an unstoppable force that can contend with anyone. He spent 2 whole years in the Grandmaster's gladiator arena, winning time and time again, never once letting the puny Bruce Banner back out due to the intense high of feeling unbeatable, which is the complete antithesis of what his human side, Bruce Banner, represents. The Hulk's innate desire for dominance and personal control, both over Bruce and his foes, leads Bruce himself to fear ever transforming again, worried that doing so would mean him disappearing forever. Bruce overcomes this fear when he decides to transform in order to save the people of Asgard, quite possibly sacrificing himself forever to help others. This is why Thanos' defeat of Hulk at the start of IW is so important. It's the first time the films have developed the Hulk as a character that can not only be beaten (and easily at that), but also one that can be shaken, and have fears of his own, essentially reversing their roles since Thor: Ragnarok. Moving forward, the Hulk has to deal with the fact that he backed away from a fight, while the seemingly weak, puny, mortal, Bruce Banner didn't. It's not only a testament to Bruce's true nature as a hero (much like Tony's arc in Iron Man 3 where he largely had to save the day without a suit), but also sets up the possibility for Bruce and The Hulk to finally reconcile with their other halves come Avengers 4. Hopefully, When The Hulk finally shows himself again, it'll be with the capability of him and Bruce working entirely in unison for the first time.
I still don't understand how Tony DIDN'T die. Thanos full on IMPALED HIM. The nano-tech that we see him "shooting" out of his hand to sure up some more of the suit, I don't see how that would've stopped, or even reversed his massive internal bleeding.
Great video! The MCU is definitely doing it way better than Lucasfilm/Star Wars. It is simple all about storytelling and good payoffs. Something the new Disney/SW movies are completely ruining, with reckless abandon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts & stay safe!
Wow ok i didn't think I'd be so excited about this but this makes sense of everything iron man has to die it's the only way to save spiderman and prevent the dark age of superhero movies
and thanos sounds like hes was doing a good thing so maybe thats why doctor strange gave him the stone because that action taken in the timeline he seen
I’m not sure that Thanos it a utilitarian utilitarian would not be willing to use the infinity gauntlet as it causes far more pain then it alleviates. I would consider him a survivalist as he is willing to do anything to stop sentient species from going instinct, even if that means calls in continuing suffering without corresponding pleasure for anyone
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I think you intentionally undermine the success of Black Panther by stating that Black Panther is one of the highest grossing movies of all time. It is not "ONE OF". . .it is the highest grossing movie in world cinema HISTORY! FULL STOP! I hear an attempt to negate this by stating it is one of the highest because this is the only Marvel movie that has achieved this by tapping into the black african market. No movie will never be achieve this again without this being the driving factor.
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I realised when watching the movie, Thanos knew Stark’s name because Stark was responsible for killing people with his weapons, wars have two sides so by giving one army the weapons Stark was essentially killing the other half like Thanos does now.
*And* when Thanos tells Starlord he likes him it’s because Peter understands the idea of sacrificing to save the many which is why he lets Peter go, same with Wanda. This just shows how deeply Thanos believes in what he’s doing. He’s not a typical hothead powered by vengeance, he truly believes what he’s doing is right, same with Kilmonger and that makes him a good villain.
Agreed about your second paragraph, but that is an odd interpretation for Tony/Thanos as Tony would hardly be a standout (especially compared to someone like Thor who has been fighting wars as a leader for 1000+ years) and I highly doubt Thanos would pay attention to small conflicts (which on the grand Thanos scale, any wars Tony had any involvement in would be) over a couple decades on Earth. Anyway, the Russos confirmed that Thanos knew of Tony because he looked into the failure of the Chitauri invasion in Avengers 1 and learned that Tony was the one to destroy his forces and ultimately the reason his plan to invade Earth failed.
Two words. Soul stone.
Something I found refreshing about Thanos is how unique a villain he is. Clearly he’s the film’s protagonist. It’s scary how much he thinks his vision of life in the universe is the right one. The fact that instead of snapping up more space and resources for life he is adamant that the only way is to exterminate half of all sentient life. I think it enforces the idea that though he is rational he is also indeed a Mad Titan! Then there is the whole logical but twisted sense of fairness and mercy he possesses. He annihilates randomly without pretenses of social class, or nitpicking victims, it’s 50% death and it’s wickedly fair in that sense without a doubt. And with the Gauntlet and Stones he exterminated painlessly, no torture or pain, just random disintegration. To top it all off he doesn’t seek to become essentially God to rule and subjugate the universe, he has a goal, a mission, that he thinks makes him the unsung hero of the universe that’ll never be understood or praised by grateful life; but he has done it and will watch the fruits of his great labor and leave life now to their, as he sees it, better future and fate. He has a messiah complex and has sacrificed what he loves for the greater good... 😈 Mad Titan Thanos!
Ruben Avalos that is the things about Thanos. He represents what a strongman leader is. Willing to eliminate anyone even the innocent just to fix the problem.
In a crude kind of way, exterminating half of all life does sorta make more sense than creating more space and resources. Life grows exponentially and because of that if he were to double up all available resources, life would catch up a lot faster to those resources than half of all life to the current resources (in theory at least). Let's say if you were to think of resources as bread. For example, if we were to say that there were 100 people and 100 pieces of bread and a piece of bread would last a person for a day. And assuming that creating 1 bread costs the same amount of energy from the gauntlet as killing a person. Seeing as how the gauntlet and stones broke in the end if we were to believe that he would only have the energy to either kill 50 people or create 50 more bread. The only two outcomes we would have would either be to have 50 people with 100 bread, which would last them 2 days or 100 people with 150 pieces of bread, which would only last them a day and a half. So with that logic, killing half of the people is the correct choice.
worldthroughabucket what a dark economics lesson 😨😄
Ruben Avalos I don’t think that Thanos can add to the universe. Yeah he can make more food from elements in the environment. But by doing so, you still take away from the environment. Get it? And he cannot add more matter to the universe. Hashtag Balance. So destroying half of the life, he not only gives those who are alive more to work with, but he returns elements to the earth with the lives he sacrificed. By making more food, he takes away from the environment, and imbalances more.
DrVonJay Reality can do many things. Don’t exactly know the extent of the Stones powers but it may be possible. But I guess there is some reasoning in what you’re saying, but not for certain imo.
After Apocalypsis and Steppenwolf I didn't believed I was going to take serious and be fascinated by a giant super powerful colorful bad guy.
BOY I was wroooong. Thank god I was wrong.
The writers in MCU seem to have taken notes. Besides, there already have been villains with a shallow motivation, like Malekith and Ronan (though Ronan might get some depth in the Captain Marvel movie).
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Yeah having read a lot of Steppenwolf over the years they really screwed him up. There should have been more New Gods with him.
Yea, that's mainly because the writers (Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely) and directors (Joe and Anthony Russo), and even actor Josh Brolin, have opted to extensively give Thanos emotional depth and a tragic backstory, and even make him more-or-less the protagonist of _Infinity War,_ something that both Apocalypse and Steppenwolf were never given.
*Apocalypse
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Meh. Videos are often interlaced with cringey comments.
Oh no, Spiderman died. *Sees that there's going to be a Spiderman: Homecoming 2.
Oh no, most of the Guardians of the Galaxy died. *Sees that there's going to be a third Guardians of the Galaxy.
I'm starting to think that the MCU shouldn't announce movies too far in advance. The dramatic tension isn't as strong.
Thanks Hermione yeeeeeeah because without the prior announcements people would believe those sequels wouldn’t happen or those characters are dead for good...?
Announcing sequels of popular movies encourages public investment in marvel and Disney.
Thanks Hermione The third GotG is kinda on hold right now.
Funny 'cause even knowing all that, there was enough dramatic tension during fight scenes and the lot to really convince me that the stakes were HIGH and any of them could potentially die. I think it was the way the movie begun, that which essentially reduced Thor Ragnarok to a Scrappy story, setting up its tone and how our heroes are going to be treated. At the end, of course, I did go, "hang on, these characters have sequels planned -- or at the very least has made a significant impact either financially or culturally (re: Black Panther) for the execs to milk for what's worth -- so they definitely aren't dead right?" but there was enough uncertainty that ran through the core of A:IW that had me figuratively biting my nails both during the movie and long after it. That said, that was MY experience with A:IW (along with a few others that I've talked to), so I can't totally speak for your experience or everyone else's. Just my two cents anyway.
Also as jimmy2k4o mentioned, the announcement of these sequels encourages public investment in the MCU -- and considering how far Marvel Studios has gone with their Cinematic Universe and how it has become deeply rooted within the public consciousness and film industry, they don't exactly have anything to lose with the way they churn out these movies (for one, they don't just do the typical summer-blockbuster once a year anymore) and have it marketed so early. At the very least I would feel more compelled to keep up with their IW storyline because, if Peter Parker not truly being dead is a foregone conclusion thanks to the sequel, I want to know HOW that's going to happen. But anyway.
Knowing the timeline is key... lol
@@Death_Korps_Officer not anymore
When Ebony Maw is torturing Dr. Strange with those clear needle things he says "these were originally intended for micro surgery" or something. I didn't notice it the first time but upon second viewing it kinda felt like Maw was just making small talk with Strange because he knew he was a surgeon before.
Didn't he say his name was Doctor Strange prior? It might have been an ironic joke at Strange's expense.
Wow!👏🏽bravo! Another fantastic break down especially to one of my favorite comic book movies of all time!!This is the breakdown that I’ve been looking it went from Thonos’ philosophies to the parallel with Star Wars with old versus new another fantastic job ladies! keep up the good work! I would love to see more breakdowns of all the Marvel movies, & keep up the great work! Much love 🙌🏽💯💜
The scene where Thanos throw gamora remind me of Stannis Baratheon. Stannis also sacrifie his own daughter because he believe that's the only way to save everyone away from the Lanisters.
Tam Nguyen AND have food for his starving army 👏👏👏 so similar to Thanos
Excellent work yet again. This really is my favourite channel on here.
There is no cliffhanger, there's a very definite resolution to this film. The protagonist had a complete plot arc, a complete character arc, and succeeded in his goals whilst the antagonists failed. If Avengers 4 hadn't been announced this film barely even hints at a continuation other than that the 'heroes' where the ones who failed.
Blake Thompson-Dodd m8 your a fucking idiot.
I feel like you're so right, but I don't want you to be! I know is natural to let go characters to let others come in and the new ones are so great but I can't let go old characters like Tonny Stark, Thor, Loki... I simply cant. :(
Anybody feeling the same?
You will always have the old films and comics.
Sara Samaletdin yeah you’re right, we have 3 Spider-Man’s, imagine if it was just Tobey Maguire it gets old. Keep recycling the hero but hopefully not the same villains (we have 2 vultures) when we could’ve got new villains. The point is you’ll move past on and love the new movies
I miss Loki
TinyMustache Me too budy :(
He should have gone out with a real bang, not with such a tiny scene.
I wanted to see him do magic alongside Dr. Strange.
Everything else made sense except the comparison between Thanos and Killmonger. Killmonger, though spurred on by his tragic past just like Thanos, was not doing anything for the greater good. It was all for himself. While Thanos truly believes that he is saving the world from the fate that plagued his home planet. At the end he does not crown himself king but retreats into a peaceful corner and leaves the world to itself.
But that is not the character. In the comics once he can not impress his love he becomes cruel and more sadistic. The whole reason for him wiping out half the universe is to impress lady death.
I was just glad to see Thanos live up to the hype.
Do me the difference between Thanos and Killmonger. Was that Thanos had a plan built on logic yet immoral reasoning. Killmonger had a grudge built on a vendetta.
I think you're right, and it's probably why I like killmonger more.
Killmonger's mission was legit
Best take I've seen on this movie! Great job!
The movie didn't leave me stunned, it left me sobbing and crying waterfalls while my subconcious was trying to calm me down by remembering me that there will be a 2nd part where they are able to fix everything
Im going to be really annoyed if they bring the dead characters back to life yes i like spiderman and doctor strange but whats the point of killing them if your just going to revive them later seems like bad writing
matt carnes I think it was for the dramatic plot twist and cliffhanger and for the plot in the next part, I'm pretty sure that the avengers who didn't die don't just want to leave the universe with half of the population dead, so they will have to fix it. I think that it was good writing because of the twist that mostly new characters died even though we expected someone older like iron man, the especially emotional scene with spiderman was very well done and I believe that it will have an impact on iron man in the next movie, the deaths of the characters will drive the left avengers to find a way to bring them back. And like in the video, I theorize that they'll use the soul stone which requires a soul, so one of the old avengers would sacrifice himself which then would end the era of the original avengers to make place for the new. I like what the video said, those 2 movies are like passing on the torch to the next generation. So visualizing that by rescuing them (and the universe) and dying for them is in my eyes very symbolical and amazingly written.
matt carnes Don't worry the directors confirmed the deaths are permanent.
Laverne Blaszczyk Actually its already confirmed by the directors and screenwriters that the deaths are permanent.
Katja Abrantes No the directors confirmed the deaths are permanent. Also the ending isn't a cliffhanger it's the real ending because it's Thanos' movie not the Avengers if it was an Avengers movie then yeah its a cliffhanger but since it's Thanos movie it's not a cliffhanger because the protagonist won.
I don't wanna go mr. Stark. :'(
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„Don't worry, your next movie is coming out 2019“
Yet he's going to return.
i don't want that Mr. Stark go :((
How many times do Marvel characters have to cheat death, meaning they die only to return, for you to not buy into the bullshit anymore?
Linnyboy dude dont be so harsh, you talk like in all the films so far they were killing characters and bringing them back with no reason! and that's false. The one case except for this movie is loki dying several times and he was brought back because of the peoples' rejection to his actual death. No more characters have done it. So the "How many times" that you start with has no reason. Secondly, this whole movie and the next above all have this all thing of going back to the past to change things so it means they are coming back because they're erasing the present situation and furthermore the most common theory is that they are not actually dead but inside the mind stone world. So dont go talking shit unless you give logic reasons to support your words.
Soo no one gonna say anything about Red skull?
Clainz Heat THAT WAS SICK MAN CANT BELIEVE THEY BROUGHT HIM BACK!! How fitting!!
How does this Chanel not have 1m yet!! Such good content!!
infinity war was such a good movie
Banks ik bro
I agree with absolutely everything. Excellent video essay!
I'm gonna miss Mr Evans :(
ughh i'm still so sad about loki ;__;
One thing the whole situation with the Soul Stone reminded me of, was Wagners opera "The Ring". The ring in the story is the ultimate power, but in order to keep and use it, you have to give up all love.
You guys rock, as always. Don't ever change.
6 Avengers = 6 Stones.
watched this after Endgame...let me just say, your analyses never fail to impress.
I just noticed, in Gamoras "Mugshot" scene ( 1:40 ) from GotG, it says "Last of the Zehoberei people" but in Infinity War, Thanos claims that half her people are alive and thriving... was he lying? Or is it just a continuity error?
Beautifully analized, especially in explaining the importance of passing the torch. Well done!
Beautiful analysis 🙏👏
You make the movie sound so much smarter than what I watched! I feel like I want to rewatch it to actually see the facts you pointed out here, more clearly.
As much as I appreciate the points in the video, I disagree with a few things. The video make it look like the old Avengers are like a burden and the Infinity War movie signals that they should retire. I never felt that they are overshadowing the newcomers. In fact, both the old and new school are working side by side. If they want to retire or end up dying, it is OK. But saying that it time to step off and let the newcomers take centre stage did not sit well with me. Captain America is immortal and never age. He have been doing his job since World War and is still going strong. Is it fair to say that he is hindering the new class of Avengers? As far as I can see the old heroes are happy that they have more fighting alongside them and they are recruiting more. The newcomers are doing what they want freely, unless they are working under the directions of a leader. As for the old ones making mistakes, everyone does that. Even superheroes. The newcomer Star-Lord lost his cool and enabled Thanos to escape. That is a mistake, right? Whoever has made the mistake, all the Avengers both 'elder' and 'new' have to fix it. I am watching 'The Secret War' series and when the default Avengers were gone, new ones took their place. And before disappearing, Captain America told them to do what they have to in their stead and avenge. He did not say, " Oh it is time for us to go and so we are passing on our legacy." If some old school Avengers decide to retire, as I have said before, that is fine. But they have yet to reach that point (unless they die), well at least most of them. Seeing how Marvel comics are written over the ages indicate that they will come back again with new stories being written about them. And the video's explanation about the inner meanings of the stones seems rather forced. Not everything has to have some hidden meaning. The Avengers movie may be full of surprises but it does not necessarily have to be symbolical. Of course, I could be wrong.
I agree with you. They aim right but I think they missed a point. I think the dissapearing with have the torch of the legacy in a parrallel universe. It's a way to reboot the franchise and for some caracter/actor to retire from the MCU.
I can’t wait for Avenger’s 4, I love MCU and ScreenPrism!! The older characters have to go out on a heroic, sacrificial high note rather than the result of Thanos’ plan. That’s a much more satisfying transition!
It's great that you guys brought Freud's ideas in this breakdown
@screenPrism this analysis was spot on ! But there was a mistake that is commonly made and that is to credit Tony Stark with sort of starting the MCU in 2007 -2008 but in fact it's actually Blade that launched the MCU in 1998 with the movie and series of the same name. (The third film stars Ryan Reynolds as a Pre cursor Dead pool kind of character). Please do an analysis on the Blade Film(s), it would be interesting to see how they measure up to the MCU today and what connections there might be between the storylines and or characters.
Did anyone else think "hmm that's not a bad idea" when Thanos explained what he wanted to do? Not to mention what he sacrifices to do it and the fairness of how it will be done. Pretty brilliant imo.
Another brilliant video. Well done!
I spoiled the movie for myself but damn I can’t resist watching your videos😂😭💕
I would have loved to see more of Loki in this movie. :(
I still want to see him do magic alongside Dr. Strange.
Very insightful. Strong work!
the final scene... where thanos looking at the sunset
is having a kind of peaceful and quiet feeling to it
I love your video as much as I love the movie! I hope that you cover more Marvel movies like Ant-Man or Captain Marvel in the future.
One of your best videos to date.
ScreemPrism/Templin Institute crossover one day maybe?
Great analysis, as always, love your content :)
I love that I watched this after Endgame. My anxiety was so high the closer we got to Endgame and this video would not have helped much
nice! btw 330k subs - blowing up!
To me, before I watch, this movie was about sacrifice. In every scene there is a choice to sacrifice something for either the greater good or to advance your own resolve.
So well analyzed movie review! Love it.
Tomorrow Will Become Yesterday So Live Today Like You Mean It& Keep That Same Energy!!⚡⚡
I cried when Peter died
ahh i was hoping that your channel would do an avengers/mcu video soon!!! ♥️
So pleased that you mentioned Malthus - we basically walked out after the movie talking of him - but disappointed that you did so without mentioned how thoroughly his ideas have been debunked and how flawed any measures based on them are bound to be.
that was an amazing analysis.. great job , oh I'm gonna miss them :'/
“When given the choice to give up a person they love or the stone they give up the stone”
Ironstrange confirmed
Excellent video essay!!!
Thanos is pretty much Anton Chigur from No Country for Old Men
Pretty good video on the ending of the movie. Now, the real question out of all this is, where Hawkeye fits into the mix.
Yayyy a new screen prism video
I want to see more of Iron Dad and his Spider Son haha loved their dynamic
Great job as always thanks for the awesome vids....Do more game of thrones,lotr,starwars, avatar leg3d of aang and last airbender plssss
So glad to see this. Love your videos
Another fantastic video. While many know that deaths are not permanent, I'm very interested to see how they are going to handle characters who survived. It will be very interesting to see how everyone deals with their losses. These deaths open lots of opportunities to explore these characters even deeper and I'm pretty sure Russo Brothers are going to direct the hell out of it.
True. In terms of Groot, Bucky, and T'Challa - the characters close to them already lost them once. So exploring that grief again would interesting. Also if Shuri's alive it means the crown and mantle of Black Panther passes to her at a pivotal time for Wakanda.
And Tony Stark's loss of Peter is especially interesting when he stated he dreamed about being a father at the beginning of the film.
Best intellectual review ever!!!!
Amazing analysis ♥️
I predicted Black Panther a few weeks before I went to the press screening of AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR in NYC. Where's my cookie?!
No cookie but you can have a no-prize.
Go in Wakanda, they made some for all of those who predict it.
The Nova Crops at Xandar wiped out off screen, damn they should start from there, but because the end credit scene from thor ragnarok, we never see thanos attacking Xandar
Ey, Wisecrack talked about Malthus, makes a good follow-up to it!
Wonderful video. I think the alternate reality where the dead are alive is intriguing but unlikely.
I feel if people come back before the Snap it should involve using stones other than time for it would feel you can go back anywhere. I kind of want them to be permanently dead but I do not feel like that will be the case even if it might take to Guardians 3 for Gamora to be resqued.
Could thanos not just create limitless resources and control the birthrate?
TicTacPilgrim he probably could. But keep in mind, he's an analogue for death. A thought like that wouldn't even cross his mind.
Limitless? Probably not.
TicTacPilgrim don’t forget he’s rational but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a Mad Titan
He probably did. Here they implied that the disapear are the one alive. What if they both exist separatly in two different universe.
He doesnt want to interfere and control life, he wants to save it
He is not a god, He is a saviour
This is a great review. Period!
It's funny to call the OG Avengers elders when some of them are younger than 35 and some of the other Avengers are as old as 55 haha
Who knew Thanos was a big fan of Bill Burr
ilbv5 took me a while but I had to think about his recurring population reduction jokes. Lol
Was waiting for this upload!
Fuck this movie was so good
I only got into the MCU because of Robert Downey Jr. His departure, whether through death or hanging up the suit, is definitely going to hit me hardest.
Thanos is not a utilitarian
50% of people get Better lives- quite good
50% of people die which is very bad
Altogether it is bad
Unless death counts as nothing as they feel no pain
He did say that he thinks it's mercy
Yeah, but according to his philosophy, the 50% that does survive will be able to do so in complete prosperity, never once having to worry about a shortage of resources. In Thanos' mind, this is the best possible consequence and therefore beneficial to the greatest number of people, which, AT least to him, completely justifies his actions.
secret pieperson no it is utilitarian because as Thanos states about his own home planet, there wasn’t enough resources and everyone on this planet went extinct - rich or poor. Thanos’ intentions are pure, his means justify the end because it’s either 50% live fulfilling lives where they don’t go to bed hungry or 100% die due to extinction. His method allows people to live good lives without fighting for food or starving like Gamora did before he took her in, he is essentially the saviour in this narrative. Yeah every now and then he’ll have to cleanse the population to 50|50 again but in his utopia not a single person will be without wealth compared to the current climate of most having nothing and some having too much. The only fault he has is playing God, nature has balance so his theory will eventually fall apart but essentially, *(tl;dr)* the bare bones of his idea is utilitarian because it’s 2 bad lives < 1 good life
Dying is merci
Gamoras fault
Gamora tells thanos where soul stone is->gamora dies->nebula tells quill what happened to gamora->quill messes up plan->which makes doctor strange give the time stone->which causes thanos able to reset the mind stone destruction->causing him to snap his fingers
Or nebulas for telling quill
But she got lucky and survived the snap
If Loki didn't take the tesseract from Asgard.. It would have been destroyed along with Hela and Heimdal and his people would have been still alive. He is the embodiment of mischief.
So one thing I am wondering about is where was the Hulk during the final battle? He was completely MIA! I really wanted to see a rematch between the Hulk and Thanos...
I am really gonna miss RDJ
As always an awesome video.
That first clip with the stones and the gauntlet is from Age of Ultron (2015) other than that great video!
The old giving way to the new through sacrifice, done respectfully and tactfully. That's my hope for A4. I want the new, but the old respected in its passing while still pointing out their flaws. Basicly everything TLJ didnt do.
Great ideas. Great video!
Thanatos Eros
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UltimateKyuubiFox I honestly don’t get this can some on explain?
it means that Thanos is both Life and Death.
Wow you so smart
Forgotten Syrup It means he loves death.
Before this movie and before knowing anything about Thanos, I always said Darkseid was better mostly because I am more of a DC Fan, but after this I realized that Darkseid is kind of a boring villain, Thanos motivation is awesome and it kind of makes you think about morals and whether or not he's even bad at all, while Darkseid is your run of the mill "I'm going to destroy everything and rule the Universe" kind of Villain, all he wants is to teraform the planet to make it like Apokalips which is basically what General Zod wanted to do, only slightly different he wants to make it a new Krypton. It's sort of a boring motivation.
This content is pretty good 👌
Thanos needs to destroy the time stone if he likes sacrificing so much. Unless he's waiting for the universe to regrow and snap his fingers again.
Disagreed a bit with the new vs old theme, and the stone's symbolism, but liked the other themes
Can you guys make a video about Dean Winchester?
I don't think Thanos had the ability to snap his fingers and make more materials. When he alters reality he doesn't *actually* create anything, he casts an illusion. When he finally snaps the people effected dont simply disappear, they turn to ash. What I'm getting at is that he can't create or destroy matter. He simply changes its form. It seems that the infinity stones still have to adhere to some semblance of the laws of physics.
Guys this is just a theory but i think they will time travel to get all the infinity stones but thanos from 2014 got up to them and fought them on the avengers base but all the one that got snapped came back and they help the avengers fight but tony sacrifices himself and dies, idk its just a theory
A question that remain is why Hulk was afraid to appear. (except for the comic relief). I think it has something to do with the parralel universe Strange saw
I think its possibly he is too scared due to the fact that the only people in the MCU that can even contented with the Hulk can be counted on one hand. That was until infinity war where Thanos not only beats him he outright dominates him with little difficulty. so my guess he's going through a crisis of confidence due to the fact that he may not be the strongest there is.
It's honestly a really understandable extension of Bruce and the Hulk's development. Yes, they're technically the same character, but the dynamic between the two as separate entities has always been a trademark of their story. Think about it...
Up until this point, the MCU version of the Hulk has never been beaten. He's never really had to worry about his life, because he's an unstoppable force that can contend with anyone. He spent 2 whole years in the Grandmaster's gladiator arena, winning time and time again, never once letting the puny Bruce Banner back out due to the intense high of feeling unbeatable, which is the complete antithesis of what his human side, Bruce Banner, represents.
The Hulk's innate desire for dominance and personal control, both over Bruce and his foes, leads Bruce himself to fear ever transforming again, worried that doing so would mean him disappearing forever. Bruce overcomes this fear when he decides to transform in order to save the people of Asgard, quite possibly sacrificing himself forever to help others.
This is why Thanos' defeat of Hulk at the start of IW is so important. It's the first time the films have developed the Hulk as a character that can not only be beaten (and easily at that), but also one that can be shaken, and have fears of his own, essentially reversing their roles since Thor: Ragnarok. Moving forward, the Hulk has to deal with the fact that he backed away from a fight, while the seemingly weak, puny, mortal, Bruce Banner didn't. It's not only a testament to Bruce's true nature as a hero (much like Tony's arc in Iron Man 3 where he largely had to save the day without a suit), but also sets up the possibility for Bruce and The Hulk to finally reconcile with their other halves come Avengers 4. Hopefully, When The Hulk finally shows himself again, it'll be with the capability of him and Bruce working entirely in unison for the first time.
I have so many questions in my mind right now and I just lost my mind when I watched the entire thing because of the cliffhanger at the ending
I still don't understand how Tony DIDN'T die. Thanos full on IMPALED HIM. The nano-tech that we see him "shooting" out of his hand to sure up some more of the suit, I don't see how that would've stopped, or even reversed his massive internal bleeding.
Nitpick: star wars episode III: revenge of the sith was 2005, not 1983
Rip my boy heimdal
Great video! The MCU is definitely doing it way better than Lucasfilm/Star Wars.
It is simple all about storytelling and good payoffs.
Something the new Disney/SW movies are completely ruining, with reckless abandon.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts & stay safe!
Wow ok i didn't think I'd be so excited about this but this makes sense of everything iron man has to die it's the only way to save spiderman and prevent the dark age of superhero movies
and thanos sounds like hes was doing a good thing so maybe thats why doctor strange gave him the stone because that action taken in the timeline he seen
I’m not sure that Thanos it a utilitarian utilitarian would not be willing to use the infinity gauntlet as it causes far more pain then it alleviates. I would consider him a survivalist as he is willing to do anything to stop sentient species from going instinct, even if that means calls in continuing suffering without corresponding pleasure for anyone