I learned quite a bit from your first video and I'm stoked to work more on the Inferno this weekend! I'm having a blast, anyone paying for a cape is only cheating themselves!
The only people who pay for a cape are those with no self worth or ego. Letting such an epic challenge like the inferno go past you for a few hundred mil gp is something I'd never do no matter what.
Aatykon just want to let you know that you are a legend of osrs. And I’ve always looked up to you bro you are so good. This was one of the best inferno guides I’ve ever watched. Thanks a lot for it.
Thanks for the guide! I'm not a first time caper and currently have a 78 min pb that I'm trying to improve on and I still found this very helpful, as some of my solves are rather questionable
I caught this in the vod after learning that this is weekly event. Man I gave my first attempts today and cant get past 48 as of yet. Thanks for the help in teaching noobs like me and its amazing how everything you didn't flesh out on the first you did so here. Truly the best teacher around
Hey man i made a comment on one of your videos like 5 days ago about not being able to 1tick. I can proudly say now at this point that i have gotten to wave 54. A few times when before i couldn't even get past the 30s. Your walk throughs are helpful. I just need to get faster at solving the meleer situations. 90% of the time that's the reasons i die. But thank you. I've spent about 25+ hours on your videos studying so i could get better they have helped.
Big moves, more time clicking inferno less videos! I do think the main lessons here are: 1: dont chase nibs, barrage once then solve 2: DPS DPS DPS, melee on ur ass? click it 3: DPS DPS DPS, blob wrecking you? click it 4: 95% of waves are fully solved by being able to 1t alternate (ranger + blob)/(mager + blob) especially. and some small things like, dont worry about supplies etc, but end of the day if things like melees are messing u up slap on rigour/potion/douple pipe spec and just ruin its day is ultimately a 100% viable and reliable thing to do : )
@@aatykonI'm probably 40 runs into the inferno, stacked up quite some 6 digit tokkul, made it to zuk twice, died at first set each time, but getting there is really thanks to your guides
Aaty my boy! 8 days into my inferno grind, and tonight I finally was able to reach Zuk! Only went into it with 1 brew and 1 1/4 restore, so I was able to get to healers, but I knew it wasn’t going to be the run as I didn’t have enough supplies. First attempt with triple Jads as well and they are a BREEZE. The 60’s waves are still pretty difficult for me, but I’m sure with more practice I won’t be touching my brews as much, and the run will come where I finally get my cape! Hoping this weekend I’ll be able to do it! I’ve only been running 1-2 attempts daily since starting, so tonight was my 9th total attempt, (not counting the two first days I spent just learning 1t alternating and how the monsters all work within the inferno), and we were finally able to make it to Zuk! Will be changing my setup to match yours for the prayer boost, as I’ve been using Justiciar Faceguard and Lightbearer, but all the same everywhere else. Thanks soooooo much for these walkthroughs Aaty brother, they are HUGE in my learning and understanding of the inferno! Cape coming soon! Will update once it is obtained!
I have been watching this series for the last week on repeat and sending 1-2 runs a day. Current pb wave 46 1-30 is beyond free at this point and I’m starting to seriously get the hang of not being nervous and focusing on how to solve the waves. My fiancé cannot stand this series, “what the fuck is that noise” she keeps asking 😂 Thanks for all the help, cape soon !
You got it, These guides were my bread and butter while I was grinding it. I love coming back even after beating it just b/c I enjoy the content. Cape soon!
Damn, watched a couple of your guides after watching countless others and I finally managed to reach Zuk and get past triple Jad on my first attempt! :D (I may have been chanced a few times...) I was out of brews and 1hp for the duration of Zuk and got him down to 446 hp before I fucked up attacking Jad in the deadzone area. Was paranoid the healers would finish me off xD Feel like I can do it now though :)
It’s crazy three years or so ago lots of these tactics would be considered heresy and now it all seems so obviously simple lol. Especially letting pillars die and letting nibblers eat on north pillar. I can remember wanting to save south pillar and all I ever remember happening were people running for south pillar bc they didn’t know what to do and dying anyways.
still lots of ppl who see things like south pillar dying to be a bad thing nowadays, probably wont ever change purely cus pillar = safe zone and it's hard to detach that concept
without being overly mean there are no good other guides that focus on serious practical and easy solutions, watch waves ~20 to 50 and i think i can convince you my methodology and approach makes quick work of what may seem impossible right now
2:36:15 / 2:37:49 curious about how you can intuitively know a melee is off-tickable. I'm sure it's second nature from all the speeds/no pillars, and obviously isn't make or break for getting a first cape, but was interested in what you look for
this wasn't a case of intuition - i was watching the ranger and the melee simultaneously to visually affirm their cycles, i grant it's not really a first cape thing and some waves just happen too fast for me to make a "perfect" solution that works for all first capers. In general even in speeds I'll visually check blobs vs my prayers and any other npcs, once i know an npc is on cycle - assuming im continuing all i have to do is ontick/fix the bad npcs and i can ignore the ontick ones. if a melee is pathing towards me and an npc is attacking me that's definitly closer to intuition by experience but considering there's essentially a 1/4 chance its on the same tick the default is to assume its offtick (also almost all melees are offtickable purely by virtue of starting on the kelvino (50+ start tile) or north side eastern tile (corner trap tile). So purely by chance pretty much 100% of melees should be offtickable if using north pillar.
fwiw to add to this, to not confuse anyone going for first cape - if in doubt rigour on double pipe spec and click it, try watch for flicks or brew -> click melee repeat until either you or it dies
I appreciate the vids! Personally i keep getting stuck on Wave 47 and waves that involve.mlre than one Blob. Its like my brain just shuts down on what to do. Its barley my day like 4 so jopefully i can get it soon!❤
Thank you very much for these videos, I have recently started attempts myself and have gotten to late 40s in first few attempts because of these videos. I am struggeling to 1t alternate and its almost all of my deaths at the moment I can sometimes do it but its not very consistant. I am trying to watch the mage and ranger for their attack animation before switching with the ranger standing up straight and the mager flicker underneath, when you start alternating are you switching from range/mage on the tick they attack or is it 1 tick after?
prayers activate 1 tick after you click them, so for alternating you can react based on the mager attack but it's less of a window than simply learning the timing - you can test stacks or alternation by moving out for 1 tick then back in, which allows you get a feel for the attack timing of the back npc - you might see me show this in some of the late waves, but that's the best way to get a distinct feel of attack timing
Just saying on that mage wave, the pillar going down does do a chunk of damage to npcs standing by it. Not saying its necessary or anything, just saying its fun
I could be wrong about this so take it with a grain of salt, but I think you need to be in the middle tile on that north side or you will have a hard time
great video but the only thing slightly annoying is the lack of indication on screen in regard to the current round you're on so it is difficult trying to follow along skipping through. cheers anyway, very helpful
thanks! i will say i dont think knowing the wave number is particularly useful - all the tricks and solves that make use of different npc positions and such apply universally so a trick on wave 15 may apply to wave 63. Taking each wave as it comes instead of trying to copy specific solves is much better overall since first capers will almost never see two identical waves. i can appreciate its not easy to figure out where you are just skipping through though
i'm trying to get my timing correctly for 1 tick alternating can you correct me if i'm wrong: range/blob stack - pray range and start alternating when the ranger dips down mage/blob stack - pray mage and start alternating when the mage ball starts to fire mage/range stack - same as mage/blob stack also for blobs, if you're up close do you wait 1 tick then switch prayers? i keep getting this timing wrong. i know from afar you can change prayers straight away when you get hit
for blobs yes wait 1-2 ticks then switch for the stacks, i dont know of any clear indicators to go by, the best way is to test a stack by moving out on the correct tile and seeing which one attacks you, then you can get used to that timing before moving out to continue the flick if you're waiting to see animations you're likely always going to be behind, so just try get a feeling instead of a specific action, if in doubt camp mage/range until the second cycle of the npc, and count 4 ticks so you know when its about to fire
@@aatykon thank you. your guides are a god send. really trying to nail 1t alt and blobs mechanics since like you said are two critical skill sets for first capers
i have a question about client resolution, i’ve always played fixed classic but i’ve never seen anyone do the inferno on this resolution. Am I trolling myself using fixed classic for inferno or is it all preference
its probably slightly better to play resizable and make it ~20% larger, with clearer visibility of the screen/seethrough chatbox, that being said it's fullscreen thats the big issue, not so much fixed
make sure you're starting correctly - it's on, off on, off on, off on - so on tick 1 its just "on", then every subsequent tick its "off on", "off on". you might be starting with "on off", which doesnt work if you cant get the timing, try putting on either metronome plugin, or visual prayer bar on the prayer icon and time it with that - alternatively any 100bpm song works, google or try "pomegranate by deadmou5" for a fun one
Torva plate/bcp both work exceptionally well as a supplemental switch for 50+ and/or tanking ranger at zuk. In tight spots you can fully camp it and it's got a good chance to save you - especially vs rangers and melee. It will however make you a bit more susceptible to blob mage hits so purely camp mage pray if you're in a nightmare scenario. Al that said and done I wouldn't consider it to ever be a necessary item, and only a useful one if you've been to jads/zuk at least once and have a feel for solving late waves.
@@aatykon Thank you very much for the in-depth reply, really appreciate it man! This really validates my reasoning for bringing it along. I'm trying to get my first-ever cape on my iron w/o COX prayers and 99 defence. I notice I get dunked on super hard in general, compared to clips where your character can tank a few hit, so defo gonna keep bringing a BCP along.
Quite unnecessary if you're only just going for gm speed - it's likely you take damage and brew the benefit away at some point, taking 1 divine bast for 66+ and 1/2 regular bastion is considered better, and repot around 105/6 to get a decent boost. That being said if you're taking near to no damage you can definitely try 3 bastion, As players approach s55 level and beyond it's meta.
masori > justi helm always, suffering isn't bad at all but again following ideas in this run the waves shouldnt present major challenges in the waves - the content has a big learning curve so if you've been imitating this and it's not working across say ~2 weeks maybe consider taking suffering/bcp as an option, but remember many people take months on this content so being a few days in and not seeing results is normal, you just have to stick to it and try to learn as much as you can. gls!
the waves are easily solved with minimal damage provided a player takes a few minutes to learn a few simple solves and tricks. Justi takes up inventory slots, reduces dps greatly, encourages a reliance on tanking instead of solving waves, and couples with other bad habits like using sgs/eldritch/lightbearer/running to south pillar/nibbler chasing etc. it's essentially a giant noob trap that ends up having players spend much greater amounts of time getting their cape, rather than the ~10-15 attempts across ~7 days that it should take on average. Ask the avg justi caper how long it took and the answer will be several weeks, with anywhere from 2-4 hours per attempt milking/tanking etc. Encouraging good habits, solves, and a learning attitude with regards to content that is much easier than people really think it is is a vastly better way to go about things.
if i dont have an ely but i do have a elidinis ward F you think is better option than a crystal shield? or i go always for the defensive option? i do have max gear too
Defensive route helps a ton if you are new and are going to make alot of mistakes along the run. If you get the placement, prayers, rotations down later on that u can negate majority of the damage then why not. Regardless as a first cape, better to be safe than sorry.
At 57:44 - pls correct me if I have any of this wrong: You attack the Mager right as it attacks you, which releases the Ranger. They then appear to be offticked by 1 tick. You then 2t alternate against them (if I’m counting properly)?
They are off ticked by two ticks, it just sounds like one because the mage audio cue is on the tick he attacks and the ranger’s is one tick after. So the audio cues are 1 tick apart but the actual attacks are 2.
@@Bamblagram this is correct yep it's also possible to two-tick any non-same ticked timing of mager + ranger, so even if it was 1t apart its still 2t able
if one doesnt have ancestral top nor kodai what would you say is the next best thing? just ahrims top + tormented + master wand- because i have that lol
you're glossing over some pretty high level mechanics and thought processes like they're easy lmao. I did a quiver run last night and im just sitting here like yeah there's no way im gonna be able to pull this stuff off in the moment
Can you show me a timestamp where I do that? A lot of the time certain actions like moving to a specific safespot isn't something I can dumb down - rather you'd need to sit and practice with a single melee for a bit to get used to it. In general the bottom line is "1 barrage, isolate biggest npc, dps the remaining problem".
Hello, I was wondering if someone with very little pvm skills is capable of following your guides and achieving the cape? I have had max cape since 2017 and have yet to even try inferno but it is something I would really like to get but I feel my pvm skills lack a lot, the hardest thing I have done is Phosani's Nightmare at 13 kc but took me almost 35 deaths to get first kc. I worry I may lack the pvm knowledge to achieve the cape but I want to follow your gear setup and study your guide and try it myself since the way you do it seems very simplified compared to other guides. I know it is going to be a huge pain to learn but I want to at least give it a few attempts throughout the week. Also, should I be using fullscreen or windowed? I always play fullscreen but a lot of people tell me it is a lot better if I play in a smaller window for pvm. I always found it hard to do things like Sara or Muspah in a tiny window since it involves a lot of running around. Thank you in advance for you reply and I hope to be able to get the cape following your runs and gear.
In short: Yes! But considering what you've laid out I'd recommend trying some other content prior and attempting to up your skillset a little. Gauntlet/cgauntlet/demonics/zulrah/sepulchre/phosani/toa 200 raid lvl plus are all amazing training grounds to get good and improve, doing ~100 of each as a precursor to inferno would be my suggestion. In terms of improving apply this: 1: good settings 2: attempt to take yourself out of your comfort zone 3: put in time Follow that and practice a bit and you'll improve dramatically. I know a few people who upped their raid level at toa over a few months and that in particular did wonders. Very accessible and easy to ramp up. Settings wise, fullscreen is mega bad. You don't need to play on fixed but about 1.5-2x fixed would be the largest size before it begins to cause major problems. Its a compounding effect of eye and mouse coordination across increasing vital points on your client window where the distance increases larger the window. I'd suggest something like: 1200x800 give or take as maximum. In addition mouse settings will impact you badly: Winsens should always be 6/11 no acceleration on. Dpi shouldn't really be more than 1600, but there is some wiggle room. For reference I play 400 and that's the low end. These changes if you want to try them will take ~3 days to get used to. If you're doing other content to improve skills you'll get used to it there. Final note - all this is cool n all but you 100% can simply jump into inferno as you are and get a cape I might take 2 or 3 months if you're working from scratch but you absolutely can do it. Whether you want to spend 3 days getting used to settings and another month practicing some useful pvm encounters or if you want to spend 2 to 3 on inferno alone is up to you. I know this all sound a bit much but just pick and choose your route, do the bosses you enjoy and dip your toes into inferno when you're ready, spend a day on it and see how it feels then maybe keep going if its not too bad or run it back with some of the earlier bosses if not. Essay over, gl!
@@aatykon thank you for the in depth reply! I think maybe I will try some harder bosses and learn them. I haven't really done any grinds for bosses. I can do Zulrah easily as well as Muspah and I do demonics often but I have never done a raid before (rip achievement cape 2019) and most bosses I have done don't really require much brain cells to kill. Maybe I should look into more boss grinds, I never tried sepulcher as well. I want to get more into pvm but after maxing I decided to make alts and get 99's again while going for 200ms on the main and never really touched difficult content until I decided to learn Phosanis. Phosanis was a huge headache for me even with a scythe, I still get 13 minute kills with scythe and people don't understand how I get such long kills with a scythe. I might try and lean CG since it's technically free, I have like 4 normal gauntlet kc but haven't went back to it in a few months. I might dabble in the inferno just to see how much pain I'm dealing with, it looks easy when someone with 300 kc does it but it's a whole new game when I try it out. I will try to play on windowed as well, I normally play on windowed with half of my screen for my main and the other half for my alt and I play 800 dpi since I play on my alts it feels a little less forceful to move my mouse across the screen to do something on my alt while I feel I don't miss click from what I am doing pvm wise. Thank you for the advice and I will try and learn some new bosses, maybe try and learn toa as well.
Hi, I have one more question, do you use stretched mode or ui scaling? When I use fullscreen I have always used resizeable with 50% ui scale, playing in windowed with the ui upscale makes everything really close together, your ui seems to be spaced a bit from each other while mine is like the inventory and bottom map orbs overlap together, I'm not sure if I should be using stretched mode scaling or not
@@FuuwahVT i use neither, as you say the smaller they get the worse it is. getting used to the normal/small size inventory/everything will help over time as it's easier to get the clicks off in that smaller window.
@@aatykon okay thank you for replying, I don't want to ask too many questions but I was just curious because I was trying to play in windowed with the ui scaling turned up and it felt way too cluttered, I will turn off the ui scaling and try it, turning it off makes it look more like your setup and I was using 1200 x 800 window, I just wanted to make sure if you were using those or not so I don't get use to something that's making the screen worse when smaller
@@aatykon I have never made it to jads, I have died on wave 63 quite a few times. I can’t seem to figure it out fast enough, and the 1 time I did “solve” it I lost my pillar and couldn’t flick out of it. I don’t have a nice computer so I can’t record unfortunately. I still get nerves too, seems to get worse the longer I keep failing… unfortunately I’ve gotten to the point where if I don’t have this cape I don’t want to continue playing the game
the game is much more than the cape, you can go do 1000 raids then return down the road if you really wanted. One thing that might help is streaming runs to inferno discord at 360p/480p, as long as its enough to see outlines of npcs we can help with solves and ideas.@@TheSaturdayNights
Whenever he says "and cleanup with pipe" it sounds like Professor Snape is teaching me the inferno. Thanks for the runthrough...the journey begins
I learned quite a bit from your first video and I'm stoked to work more on the Inferno this weekend! I'm having a blast, anyone paying for a cape is only cheating themselves!
Good luck and awesome to hear you're having fun with it - tasks are even better!
What like literally 90% of them?
The only people who pay for a cape are those with no self worth or ego. Letting such an epic challenge like the inferno go past you for a few hundred mil gp is something I'd never do no matter what.
Ty for the bowfa vids brotha, got cape on the iron after two zuks using the tips from these vids!
big gaming gz!
Thanks for these, I'm about a month into the inferno grind and this is super useful
Update - just got the cape. First time triples and Zuk too!
@@flavioespanol8868 gzz king! workin on mine too.
@@flavioespanol8868 thats awesome! encouraging to see fellow strugglers making it in the end, maybe there's hope for me as well
Aatykon just want to let you know that you are a legend of osrs. And I’ve always looked up to you bro you are so good. This was one of the best inferno guides I’ve ever watched. Thanks a lot for it.
Thanks for the guide!
I'm not a first time caper and currently have a 78 min pb that I'm trying to improve on and I still found this very helpful, as some of my solves are rather questionable
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Lowkey mine are like that too. To the point I mage 70% all the way up to wave 60 😂😢
A great vid, damn good quality and extremely helpful ty :)
I wish I had this when I learned inferno a couple of months ago lmao, great guide aaty
You inspired me to practice flicking to save prayer during slayer. Baby steps :)
I caught this in the vod after learning that this is weekly event. Man I gave my first attempts today and cant get past 48 as of yet. Thanks for the help in teaching noobs like me and its amazing how everything you didn't flesh out on the first you did so here. Truly the best teacher around
48 on first few attempts is v good, and ty!
Hey man i made a comment on one of your videos like 5 days ago about not being able to 1tick. I can proudly say now at this point that i have gotten to wave 54. A few times when before i couldn't even get past the 30s. Your walk throughs are helpful. I just need to get faster at solving the meleer situations. 90% of the time that's the reasons i die. But thank you. I've spent about 25+ hours on your videos studying so i could get better they have helped.
Big moves, more time clicking inferno less videos!
I do think the main lessons here are:
1: dont chase nibs, barrage once then solve
2: DPS DPS DPS, melee on ur ass? click it
3: DPS DPS DPS, blob wrecking you? click it
4: 95% of waves are fully solved by being able to 1t alternate (ranger + blob)/(mager + blob) especially.
and some small things like, dont worry about supplies etc, but end of the day if things like melees are messing u up slap on rigour/potion/douple pipe spec and just ruin its day is ultimately a 100% viable and reliable thing to do : )
@@aatykonI'm probably 40 runs into the inferno, stacked up quite some 6 digit tokkul, made it to zuk twice, died at first set each time, but getting there is really thanks to your guides
What you did in wave 48, 45:00 was actually insanee. I don't know how I'd manage that in real-time, feel like I'd definitely die there!
Aaty my boy! 8 days into my inferno grind, and tonight I finally was able to reach Zuk! Only went into it with 1 brew and 1 1/4 restore, so I was able to get to healers, but I knew it wasn’t going to be the run as I didn’t have enough supplies. First attempt with triple Jads as well and they are a BREEZE. The 60’s waves are still pretty difficult for me, but I’m sure with more practice I won’t be touching my brews as much, and the run will come where I finally get my cape! Hoping this weekend I’ll be able to do it! I’ve only been running 1-2 attempts daily since starting, so tonight was my 9th total attempt, (not counting the two first days I spent just learning 1t alternating and how the monsters all work within the inferno), and we were finally able to make it to Zuk! Will be changing my setup to match yours for the prayer boost, as I’ve been using Justiciar Faceguard and Lightbearer, but all the same everywhere else. Thanks soooooo much for these walkthroughs Aaty brother, they are HUGE in my learning and understanding of the inferno! Cape coming soon! Will update once it is obtained!
I have been watching this series for the last week on repeat and sending 1-2 runs a day.
Current pb wave 46
1-30 is beyond free at this point and I’m starting to seriously get the hang of not being nervous and focusing on how to solve the waves.
My fiancé cannot stand this series, “what the fuck is that noise” she keeps asking 😂
Thanks for all the help, cape soon !
You got it, These guides were my bread and butter while I was grinding it. I love coming back even after beating it just b/c I enjoy the content. Cape soon!
@@alexanderallen1983new pb wave 54. Thanks for the support my g !
@@BrandonsLongRunyou tried anymore?
@@Sweaty23Mike took a break for a few days prepping for bingo but I’ll be back soon
The way you just shred healers is god like
Thanks for these great videos
you are an amazing teacher! thank you thank you thank you!!
Thank you sir. Just got infernal tonight on my iron thanks to your guides
Damn, watched a couple of your guides after watching countless others and I finally managed to reach Zuk and get past triple Jad on my first attempt! :D (I may have been chanced a few times...) I was out of brews and 1hp for the duration of Zuk and got him down to 446 hp before I fucked up attacking Jad in the deadzone area. Was paranoid the healers would finish me off xD Feel like I can do it now though :)
why dont you use zuk simulator?
It’s crazy three years or so ago lots of these tactics would be considered heresy and now it all seems so obviously simple lol. Especially letting pillars die and letting nibblers eat on north pillar. I can remember wanting to save south pillar and all I ever remember happening were people running for south pillar bc they didn’t know what to do and dying anyways.
still lots of ppl who see things like south pillar dying to be a bad thing nowadays, probably wont ever change purely cus pillar = safe zone and it's hard to detach that concept
*Clears inferno*: "Nothing too crazy."
These are awesome
Insane guide! Made me think the Inferno was doable for me and got the cape on attempt 9, second zuk.
Dude really just received a delivery while in the middle of the Inferno
Omg, just got it. Best feeling in the world. I was in the flow state Zuk died so fast.
nice gz
I shall save this to my pile of inferno guides I dont have the motivation to actually watch and continue dying to wave 30 every attempt.
without being overly mean there are no good other guides that focus on serious practical and easy solutions, watch waves ~20 to 50 and i think i can convince you my methodology and approach makes quick work of what may seem impossible right now
I can attest this is the best guide for simple solutions, as well as the easiest to follow
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Holyyy you’re so good, it looks so hard idk if I’ll ever get it
2:36:15 / 2:37:49 curious about how you can intuitively know a melee is off-tickable. I'm sure it's second nature from all the speeds/no pillars, and obviously isn't make or break for getting a first cape, but was interested in what you look for
this wasn't a case of intuition - i was watching the ranger and the melee simultaneously to visually affirm their cycles, i grant it's not really a first cape thing and some waves just happen too fast for me to make a "perfect" solution that works for all first capers. In general even in speeds I'll visually check blobs vs my prayers and any other npcs, once i know an npc is on cycle - assuming im continuing all i have to do is ontick/fix the bad npcs and i can ignore the ontick ones.
if a melee is pathing towards me and an npc is attacking me that's definitly closer to intuition by experience but considering there's essentially a 1/4 chance its on the same tick the default is to assume its offtick (also almost all melees are offtickable purely by virtue of starting on the kelvino (50+ start tile) or north side eastern tile (corner trap tile). So purely by chance pretty much 100% of melees should be offtickable if using north pillar.
fwiw to add to this, to not confuse anyone going for first cape - if in doubt rigour on double pipe spec and click it, try watch for flicks or brew -> click melee repeat until either you or it dies
I appreciate the vids! Personally i keep getting stuck on Wave 47 and waves that involve.mlre than one Blob. Its like my brain just shuts down on what to do. Its barley my day like 4 so jopefully i can get it soon!❤
Thank you very much for these videos, I have recently started attempts myself and have gotten to late 40s in first few attempts because of these videos. I am struggeling to 1t alternate and its almost all of my deaths at the moment I can sometimes do it but its not very consistant. I am trying to watch the mage and ranger for their attack animation before switching with the ranger standing up straight and the mager flicker underneath, when you start alternating are you switching from range/mage on the tick they attack or is it 1 tick after?
prayers activate 1 tick after you click them, so for alternating you can react based on the mager attack but it's less of a window than simply learning the timing - you can test stacks or alternation by moving out for 1 tick then back in, which allows you get a feel for the attack timing of the back npc - you might see me show this in some of the late waves, but that's the best way to get a distinct feel of attack timing
@@aatykon Thank you very much for the reply. I will try that on my next run today. Thanks again for these videos!
Just saying on that mage wave, the pillar going down does do a chunk of damage to npcs standing by it. Not saying its necessary or anything, just saying its fun
ring of suffering or ring of the gods? ty for the video man gonna be great for when i'm starting my first cape grind soon :)
God's unless max cape then suffering
Very good vid brother
1:20:46 baited me so hard lol
49:15 how come when I try to do this the front NPC attacks me like right after the back NPC? In your vid they seem like 2 ticks apart.
I could be wrong about this so take it with a grain of salt, but I think you need to be in the middle tile on that north side or you will have a hard time
great video but the only thing slightly annoying is the lack of indication on screen in regard to the current round you're on so it is difficult trying to follow along skipping through. cheers anyway, very helpful
thanks! i will say i dont think knowing the wave number is particularly useful - all the tricks and solves that make use of different npc positions and such apply universally so a trick on wave 15 may apply to wave 63. Taking each wave as it comes instead of trying to copy specific solves is much better overall since first capers will almost never see two identical waves.
i can appreciate its not easy to figure out where you are just skipping through though
i'm trying to get my timing correctly for 1 tick alternating can you correct me if i'm wrong:
range/blob stack - pray range and start alternating when the ranger dips down
mage/blob stack - pray mage and start alternating when the mage ball starts to fire
mage/range stack - same as mage/blob stack
also for blobs, if you're up close do you wait 1 tick then switch prayers? i keep getting this timing wrong. i know from afar you can change prayers straight away when you get hit
for blobs yes wait 1-2 ticks then switch
for the stacks, i dont know of any clear indicators to go by, the best way is to test a stack by moving out on the correct tile and seeing which one attacks you, then you can get used to that timing before moving out to continue the flick
if you're waiting to see animations you're likely always going to be behind, so just try get a feeling instead of a specific action, if in doubt camp mage/range until the second cycle of the npc, and count 4 ticks so you know when its about to fire
@@aatykon thank you. your guides are a god send. really trying to nail 1t alt and blobs mechanics since like you said are two critical skill sets for first capers
Is there any way to get your radius markers for each inferno npc? Thanks a lot for the guidance
Likely under npc indicators, Hull highlight
i have a question about client resolution, i’ve always played fixed classic but i’ve never seen anyone do the inferno on this resolution. Am I trolling myself using fixed classic for inferno or is it all preference
its probably slightly better to play resizable and make it ~20% larger, with clearer visibility of the screen/seethrough chatbox, that being said it's fullscreen thats the big issue, not so much fixed
The solution at 1:14:00 was fire
any videos for learning the 1 tick orb flick even with the timer i cant get it down
make sure you're starting correctly - it's on, off on, off on, off on - so on tick 1 its just "on", then every subsequent tick its "off on", "off on".
you might be starting with "on off", which doesnt work
if you cant get the timing, try putting on either metronome plugin, or visual prayer bar on the prayer icon and time it with that - alternatively any 100bpm song works, google or try "pomegranate by deadmou5" for a fun one
hey man whats ur runelite game size settings set to? wanted to sus em out
I'm hoping to get the inferno cape after killing zuk with bowfa
Aaty, is it worth bringing a BCP to switch to at wave 50+ vs. like another brew or restore and just tanking rangers with a crystal body?
Torva plate/bcp both work exceptionally well as a supplemental switch for 50+ and/or tanking ranger at zuk. In tight spots you can fully camp it and it's got a good chance to save you - especially vs rangers and melee. It will however make you a bit more susceptible to blob mage hits so purely camp mage pray if you're in a nightmare scenario.
Al that said and done I wouldn't consider it to ever be a necessary item, and only a useful one if you've been to jads/zuk at least once and have a feel for solving late waves.
@@aatykon Thank you very much for the in-depth reply, really appreciate it man!
This really validates my reasoning for bringing it along. I'm trying to get my first-ever cape on my iron w/o COX prayers and 99 defence.
I notice I get dunked on super hard in general, compared to clips where your character can tank a few hit, so defo gonna keep bringing a BCP along.
Zuk is dead! 37th attempt, 4th Zuk! I would never have been able to do this without these videos. Tysm Aaty - you're a legend :)
@@yeti9254 congrats and thanks!
What do u think about bringing 3x divine bastions for gm time? To stay 112 range for the whole run
Quite unnecessary if you're only just going for gm speed - it's likely you take damage and brew the benefit away at some point, taking 1 divine bast for 66+ and 1/2 regular bastion is considered better, and repot around 105/6 to get a decent boost. That being said if you're taking near to no damage you can definitely try 3 bastion, As players approach s55 level and beyond it's meta.
@@aatykon Ty for detailed answer aaty
is it recommended to run suffering and jesti helm for someone who struggles in the waves?
masori > justi helm always, suffering isn't bad at all but again following ideas in this run the waves shouldnt present major challenges in the waves - the content has a big learning curve so if you've been imitating this and it's not working across say ~2 weeks maybe consider taking suffering/bcp as an option, but remember many people take months on this content so being a few days in and not seeing results is normal, you just have to stick to it and try to learn as much as you can. gls!
@@aatykon Justicar has huge melee defence and ranger defence stats. Why do you think its troll for first capers to use ?
the waves are easily solved with minimal damage provided a player takes a few minutes to learn a few simple solves and tricks. Justi takes up inventory slots, reduces dps greatly, encourages a reliance on tanking instead of solving waves, and couples with other bad habits like using sgs/eldritch/lightbearer/running to south pillar/nibbler chasing etc.
it's essentially a giant noob trap that ends up having players spend much greater amounts of time getting their cape, rather than the ~10-15 attempts across ~7 days that it should take on average.
Ask the avg justi caper how long it took and the answer will be several weeks, with anywhere from 2-4 hours per attempt milking/tanking etc. Encouraging good habits, solves, and a learning attitude with regards to content that is much easier than people really think it is is a vastly better way to go about things.
if i dont have an ely but i do have a elidinis ward F you think is better option than a crystal shield? or i go always for the defensive option? i do have max gear too
Defensive route helps a ton if you are new and are going to make alot of mistakes along the run. If you get the placement, prayers, rotations down later on that u can negate majority of the damage then why not. Regardless as a first cape, better to be safe than sorry.
Ive been running my attempts. I like the ward F
@@RyanJ8 but its my first cape my pb is wave 46 atm
@@barkirion also my first cape. 10 tries so far
At 57:44 - pls correct me if I have any of this wrong:
You attack the Mager right as it attacks you, which releases the Ranger. They then appear to be offticked by 1 tick. You then 2t alternate against them (if I’m counting properly)?
They are off ticked by two ticks, it just sounds like one because the mage audio cue is on the tick he attacks and the ranger’s is one tick after. So the audio cues are 1 tick apart but the actual attacks are 2.
@@Bamblagram this is correct yep
it's also possible to two-tick any non-same ticked timing of mager + ranger, so even if it was 1t apart its still 2t able
If you’re not prayer flicking the mage or ranger all the time would it be beneficial to bring an eldritch staff??
with rotg + devouts, you dont run out of prayer anyway, bringing an item that gives you prayer makes no sense
Oh alright I was just concerned because I only had 8 restores left on wave 47 didn’t know if that was enough to make it when I get there eventually
How much for cape?
u from the uk?
yo gigachad wtf
48:15 double melee wizardry
if one doesnt have ancestral top nor kodai what would you say is the next best thing? just ahrims top + tormented + master wand- because i have that lol
he lists this in the description of the vid
How you get the masori mask to look like a hood 😂 😮
transmog plugin on plugin hub, might take a bit of searching to find
What cape are you using for tbow setup? max cape?
in description sir
Loan me your Tbow:) I’m stuck on Zuk with acb !
you're glossing over some pretty high level mechanics and thought processes like they're easy lmao. I did a quiver run last night and im just sitting here like yeah there's no way im gonna be able to pull this stuff off in the moment
Can you show me a timestamp where I do that? A lot of the time certain actions like moving to a specific safespot isn't something I can dumb down - rather you'd need to sit and practice with a single melee for a bit to get used to it.
In general the bottom line is "1 barrage, isolate biggest npc, dps the remaining problem".
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wave 60 2:36:28 tbow
Hello, I was wondering if someone with very little pvm skills is capable of following your guides and achieving the cape? I have had max cape since 2017 and have yet to even try inferno but it is something I would really like to get but I feel my pvm skills lack a lot, the hardest thing I have done is Phosani's Nightmare at 13 kc but took me almost 35 deaths to get first kc. I worry I may lack the pvm knowledge to achieve the cape but I want to follow your gear setup and study your guide and try it myself since the way you do it seems very simplified compared to other guides. I know it is going to be a huge pain to learn but I want to at least give it a few attempts throughout the week. Also, should I be using fullscreen or windowed? I always play fullscreen but a lot of people tell me it is a lot better if I play in a smaller window for pvm. I always found it hard to do things like Sara or Muspah in a tiny window since it involves a lot of running around. Thank you in advance for you reply and I hope to be able to get the cape following your runs and gear.
In short: Yes!
But considering what you've laid out I'd recommend trying some other content prior and attempting to up your skillset a little.
Gauntlet/cgauntlet/demonics/zulrah/sepulchre/phosani/toa 200 raid lvl plus are all amazing training grounds to get good and improve, doing ~100 of each as a precursor to inferno would be my suggestion.
In terms of improving apply this:
1: good settings
2: attempt to take yourself out of your comfort zone
3: put in time
Follow that and practice a bit and you'll improve dramatically. I know a few people who upped their raid level at toa over a few months and that in particular did wonders. Very accessible and easy to ramp up.
Settings wise, fullscreen is mega bad. You don't need to play on fixed but about 1.5-2x fixed would be the largest size before it begins to cause major problems. Its a compounding effect of eye and mouse coordination across increasing vital points on your client window where the distance increases larger the window.
I'd suggest something like: 1200x800 give or take as maximum.
In addition mouse settings will impact you badly:
Winsens should always be 6/11 no acceleration on. Dpi shouldn't really be more than 1600, but there is some wiggle room. For reference I play 400 and that's the low end.
These changes if you want to try them will take ~3 days to get used to. If you're doing other content to improve skills you'll get used to it there.
Final note - all this is cool n all but you 100% can simply jump into inferno as you are and get a cape
I might take 2 or 3 months if you're working from scratch but you absolutely can do it.
Whether you want to spend 3 days getting used to settings and another month practicing some useful pvm encounters or if you want to spend 2 to 3 on inferno alone is up to you.
I know this all sound a bit much but just pick and choose your route, do the bosses you enjoy and dip your toes into inferno when you're ready, spend a day on it and see how it feels then maybe keep going if its not too bad or run it back with some of the earlier bosses if not.
Essay over, gl!
@@aatykon thank you for the in depth reply! I think maybe I will try some harder bosses and learn them. I haven't really done any grinds for bosses. I can do Zulrah easily as well as Muspah and I do demonics often but I have never done a raid before (rip achievement cape 2019) and most bosses I have done don't really require much brain cells to kill. Maybe I should look into more boss grinds, I never tried sepulcher as well. I want to get more into pvm but after maxing I decided to make alts and get 99's again while going for 200ms on the main and never really touched difficult content until I decided to learn Phosanis. Phosanis was a huge headache for me even with a scythe, I still get 13 minute kills with scythe and people don't understand how I get such long kills with a scythe. I might try and lean CG since it's technically free, I have like 4 normal gauntlet kc but haven't went back to it in a few months. I might dabble in the inferno just to see how much pain I'm dealing with, it looks easy when someone with 300 kc does it but it's a whole new game when I try it out. I will try to play on windowed as well, I normally play on windowed with half of my screen for my main and the other half for my alt and I play 800 dpi since I play on my alts it feels a little less forceful to move my mouse across the screen to do something on my alt while I feel I don't miss click from what I am doing pvm wise. Thank you for the advice and I will try and learn some new bosses, maybe try and learn toa as well.
Hi, I have one more question, do you use stretched mode or ui scaling? When I use fullscreen I have always used resizeable with 50% ui scale, playing in windowed with the ui upscale makes everything really close together, your ui seems to be spaced a bit from each other while mine is like the inventory and bottom map orbs overlap together, I'm not sure if I should be using stretched mode scaling or not
@@FuuwahVT i use neither, as you say the smaller they get the worse it is. getting used to the normal/small size inventory/everything will help over time as it's easier to get the clicks off in that smaller window.
@@aatykon okay thank you for replying, I don't want to ask too many questions but I was just curious because I was trying to play in windowed with the ui scaling turned up and it felt way too cluttered, I will turn off the ui scaling and try it, turning it off makes it look more like your setup and I was using 1200 x 800 window, I just wanted to make sure if you were using those or not so I don't get use to something that's making the screen worse when smaller
crazy wave 1:12:43
2:43:08 ranger mager off tick trick
1:28:37 ZUk
I’m at like 250 attempts in 2 months. I hate this game
figure out why you're dying, record runs helps a lot - and take a break, there's no rush to get this.
@@aatykon I have never made it to jads, I have died on wave 63 quite a few times. I can’t seem to figure it out fast enough, and the 1 time I did “solve” it I lost my pillar and couldn’t flick out of it. I don’t have a nice computer so I can’t record unfortunately. I still get nerves too, seems to get worse the longer I keep failing… unfortunately I’ve gotten to the point where if I don’t have this cape I don’t want to continue playing the game
the game is much more than the cape, you can go do 1000 raids then return down the road if you really wanted. One thing that might help is streaming runs to inferno discord at 360p/480p, as long as its enough to see outlines of npcs we can help with solves and ideas.@@TheSaturdayNights
@@aatykon what is the discord?
@@TheSaturdayNights discord.com/invite/93t6Zph
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