@@Joefes 😂😂😂 chill boy, don't get so emotional. Who tf is Mr Nairobi?? 😂😂 You face Music Mojojojo, fool. But fr I had no idea that a person named joefes existed until I started writing this script. Fathermoh ndo tunamjua. I'm a music critic and according to me you're the corniest rapper in Kenya. Lol. I've listened to you before I typed this. Corny af. But it's all love on my end. I don't wanna get personal with anybody, I don't know who you are as a person but I know the shady 360 deal you've signed to BMR. Get yourself out of that deal while you still can, that Hakeem guy is shady asf. And Mr Singleton is even shadier. Save your career, cheki vile waliacha Maddox, Odi even XRay is struggling na akona jina. I feel bad nikiskia mmeonekana umoja na jaba ya chwani. While mans is feeding his family with your sweat and hard work.
@MusicMojojojo uliskia tuko umoja ama ulituona? I thought you did your research. I stay in a 3 bedroom apartment in Membley, Ruiru, rent ni 80k pm courtesy of the shady label BTW. Fathermoh just got his second car this year. I see no issue mtu akibuy jaba ya chwani, kila nyani na starehe yake. Some of us came from humble backgrounds huwa hatushow off our wins but trust me we are DOING Quite FINE. STOP misleading people.
@Joefes uhm, no. The label fucked up royalties za Boondocks gang. Za Sailors pia. These artists have complained, some are still in denial. They may be good to you, but they're bad to all their other artists except you and iphoolish. Kyki even said it. And sema ukweli bro, none of you have a car not even Hakeem. And he's the guy benefiting most apart from Singleton. That's the guy I wanna talk to. If he has nothing to hide tell him to come for an interview on my channel
@@MusicMojojojoI'm not affiliated to any region sijui east ama West but I do live a decent life, ask around or ukitaka naweza kuinvite kwangu ufanye hii interview just to show you hatuteseki. Bado uko kwa story za kyki 😂😂😂. That was 5yrs ago and let's be honest how much did she really make from her music? I mean it's business, right? But naelewa uko biz pia but putting down efforts za youthmen in the name criticism is just lame. A real journalist should have a credible source si mambo za ati uliskia tuko umo tukinunua jaba ya chwani.
Fathermoh is talented. His record label Black Market are stealing money from him and other artists. That's my point. Black Market is the enemy, not their industry plants aka fathermoh and mbuzi gang
I feet the reason Fathermoh left the group it's because he felt like he wasn't getting more energy from other members of the group.Kwanza iPhoolish ni kichwa mbaya
Labels are there to make profit period! they spend all the money mnataka mfanyiwe vitu za free. Whether mtu ni plant ama si plant he is doing good for himself na above all he is talented. So the labells invests where there is potential.
@@MusicMojojojoI think there meant to do exactly that lol, I don’t think you’ll find any label that gives 360 deals that don’t enslave artists, that’s why nowadays artists all over chose to be independent
I don't do drugs, alafu yes he is very very very talented. The video ni kuhusu vile Black Market are taking advantage of him and eating his money. He was brought into the industry by them. Ngoma yake ya kwanza iko under black market.
Point iko apo. He was brought into the industry by black market and they're going to milk hit songs from him, steal his masters (rights to his music) and dump him like they do every other artist.
@Joefes yes. Why would the biggest groups in gengetone work with unknown artists who aren't their friends even unless the label paid, finessed and forced them to the mainstream
But if he is capable of continuously producing organic hits and holding his weight when he is in a collabo then he is not a plant. Yes he got a little help but that doesn't make him a plant. And that is what labels are supposed to do, they focus on the business side of the music (marketing, distribution, collaborations, social media engagement with fans, PR Damage control, lawsuits, brand deals etc) while the artist focuses on ensuring his skills are sharp and is producing hits. I don't listen to genge tone but I know Fathermoh, I'm not his fan but it says a lot about his skills if his songs and popularity can reach an audience outside his fanbase. I also don't think Kenya's music labels have reached that level where they have so much money they can literally make anyone a superstar. A real industry plant is just a face with no talent everything is done for them in the background their songs don't grow organically but are heavily boosted by their label through payola, their streams are faked or botted their lyrics and even image persona are scripted, lifestyle cars are rented from the label, everything about them is manufactured like Milli Vanilli, Boney M's Male lead, Blue face or even Bobi Anthloff. All these people are completely talentless. These are real plants and you need a lot of money to create a plant. Fathermoh is talented. And with or without black market he would have still blown up. At the end of the day if you have the skills its always just a matter of time since the creme of the creme will always rise to the top. Also about artist being broke its not just Kenya, the same is happening even in US. All those rappers are renting out everything courtesy of their label ( jewelry, clothes, cars, apartments etc) as the label tries recoups the funds it had initially invested on the artist. That is why you hear of shitty 360 deals which Blueface was among the victims of this.
For there to be an industry plant there must be a proper industry with powerful stakeholders which BMR is not so logic yako ya fathermoh kuwa industry plant haimake sense. Fathermoh ni beneficiary wa hard work na luck
Black market is the most powerful label in Kenya. At their peak walikua wame sign boondocks gang, sailors, Rico gang, mbuzi gang and a lot of the top gengetone artists. The music was generating hundreds of millions but the artists walikula less than 70k most of them. The cars, clothes and jewellery ni za label and they use your money to hire it
@MusicMojojojo hio collab ni mimi niliorganize. We paid no single artist kwa hio project, Swat, Exray and Ssaru have been friends kutoka kitambo so hii logic yako doesn't make sense. It was nothing but years of hard work which finally came into fruition.
@Joefes you guys have been signed to black market all your careers. Naona video zako adi za kitambo. I like "bitch ayama gangsta"😂🔥 you shouldn't have changed your style. But anyway the label paid boondocks and sailors to work with you guys and as I can see that was your first introduction to the mainstream. Don't lie.
@@MusicMojojojoyes kwani kazi ya label ni nini? I got signed as an upcoming, I personally requested to work with boondocks, first project was an EP which I paid 3k usd. Isn't that how it's supposed to be, boondocks got paid and that was a win, Fast forward I LINKED up with fathermoh who had great potential got him his first project which was wagithomo and we never paid a single cent for that project. So issue yako ni fathermoh kublow ama ni nini? Does his succes irk you or something?
@MusicMojojojo did I talk about videos kama youtubing is your passion go for it - I am a hacker and that's what I do for a living shift from mere imagination to facts
@Katalyst-q2h we jua Tu I'll always do this, and if I don't like your favourite artist hio ni shida yako. I say whatever I believe. And I stand on all my words.
@@kitawimwakitele I have a lot of research. I outed black market and even found the name of the manager, Hakeem. But if you feel my research is not enough kwa next video I'll improve. I like constructive criticism.
@Joefes it's a video essay and no it's not. You are signed to BMR, a 360 deal. You can't even comment without your management's approval. Fathermoh came into the industry kama already ame ink 360 deal. Show me one person in BMR who hasn't signed a 360.
Bee center umoja. Everyone from around there tunaonanga hawa wasee almost daily wakiendea bangi na jaba. Even Shekinah Karen. Black Market waliwatoa kwa ile mini mansion sikuizi wanarentiwa keja kwa ploti flani apa umo. It's sad how much money black market is stealing from these talented artists
Mr Nairobi tunakujua, huwa unakuja studio begging for features but deep down progress ya wasanii inkuuma, usiwai kanyaga BMR tena 😂😂😂
@@Joefes 😂😂😂 chill boy, don't get so emotional. Who tf is Mr Nairobi?? 😂😂 You face Music Mojojojo, fool. But fr I had no idea that a person named joefes existed until I started writing this script. Fathermoh ndo tunamjua. I'm a music critic and according to me you're the corniest rapper in Kenya. Lol. I've listened to you before I typed this. Corny af. But it's all love on my end. I don't wanna get personal with anybody, I don't know who you are as a person but I know the shady 360 deal you've signed to BMR. Get yourself out of that deal while you still can, that Hakeem guy is shady asf. And Mr Singleton is even shadier. Save your career, cheki vile waliacha Maddox, Odi even XRay is struggling na akona jina. I feel bad nikiskia mmeonekana umoja na jaba ya chwani. While mans is feeding his family with your sweat and hard work.
@MusicMojojojo uliskia tuko umoja ama ulituona? I thought you did your research. I stay in a 3 bedroom apartment in Membley, Ruiru, rent ni 80k pm courtesy of the shady label BTW. Fathermoh just got his second car this year. I see no issue mtu akibuy jaba ya chwani, kila nyani na starehe yake. Some of us came from humble backgrounds huwa hatushow off our wins but trust me we are DOING Quite FINE. STOP misleading people.
@Joefes uhm, no. The label fucked up royalties za Boondocks gang. Za Sailors pia. These artists have complained, some are still in denial. They may be good to you, but they're bad to all their other artists except you and iphoolish. Kyki even said it. And sema ukweli bro, none of you have a car not even Hakeem. And he's the guy benefiting most apart from Singleton. That's the guy I wanna talk to. If he has nothing to hide tell him to come for an interview on my channel
@Joefes we huna 80k and you speak like a richkid lol. You're def not from the east.
@@MusicMojojojoI'm not affiliated to any region sijui east ama West but I do live a decent life, ask around or ukitaka naweza kuinvite kwangu ufanye hii interview just to show you hatuteseki. Bado uko kwa story za kyki 😂😂😂. That was 5yrs ago and let's be honest how much did she really make from her music? I mean it's business, right? But naelewa uko biz pia but putting down efforts za youthmen in the name criticism is just lame. A real journalist should have a credible source si mambo za ati uliskia tuko umo tukinunua jaba ya chwani.
I'm on your side bro coz u always wanna change this music industry ya Kenya ikue way better👊👊
He knows how to write hits
Chorus zake ukua tamu
this american exploiting east african artists should not be held as some hero bana Mojo. The man is enslaving artists like you said
Yes. I'm not praising him. I'm condemning him.
@MusicMojojojo The music industry ya US wanaleta upuzi yao Kenya
Facts @@illsam
Ennallly 360😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@royvincent9880 manzee😂😂😂
The most obvious industry plant ever
In a good way
Fathermoh is talented. His record label Black Market are stealing money from him and other artists. That's my point. Black Market is the enemy, not their industry plants aka fathermoh and mbuzi gang
Okay basi polesana bro kwa kkushow uende ukakunie 😢usiende... kaatu nayo🙏🏿
I feet the reason Fathermoh left the group it's because he felt like he wasn't getting more energy from other members of the group.Kwanza iPhoolish ni kichwa mbaya
Jaba ya chwani😂😂😂
Manzee....I felt bad kimoyomoyo
I recognise his talent but sthn is off Abt him😎😎
Label taking his money leaving him to live a messed up life in Eastlands... it's sad
Labels are there to make profit period! they spend all the money mnataka mfanyiwe vitu za free. Whether mtu ni plant ama si plant he is doing good for himself na above all he is talented. So the labells invests where there is potential.
360 deals are meant to enslave artists. You should look at your contacts before you sign
Hii ya black market ni exploitation
@@MusicMojojojoI think there meant to do exactly that lol, I don’t think you’ll find any label that gives 360 deals that don’t enslave artists, that’s why nowadays artists all over chose to be independent
@crackshowtv8474 yeah. It's legal. They're legally robbing you. It just depends on how smart the artist is
wacha ngwai kijana.....ngoma za uyu kijana ni kali ni mkali kuwrite ...wacha upuzi yako iyo
I don't do drugs, alafu yes he is very very very talented. The video ni kuhusu vile Black Market are taking advantage of him and eating his money. He was brought into the industry by them. Ngoma yake ya kwanza iko under black market.
Ulikua karibu kupatata point lakini badoo
Point iko apo. He was brought into the industry by black market and they're going to milk hit songs from him, steal his masters (rights to his music) and dump him like they do every other artist.
1:51 from your explanation someone might feel like Joefes and iPhoolish were the plants cz they used to be forced into big projects
Fathermoh too. His first song ikona features ya the biggest artists at the time. And he was already signed.
Forced?
@@Joefes According to Mojojojo. He keeps referring to you and IPhoolish as two random guys being featured in Boondoks gang, Sailors songs
@Joefes yes. Why would the biggest groups in gengetone work with unknown artists who aren't their friends even unless the label paid, finessed and forced them to the mainstream
But if he is capable of continuously producing organic hits and holding his weight when he is in a collabo then he is not a plant. Yes he got a little help but that doesn't make him a plant. And that is what labels are supposed to do, they focus on the business side of the music (marketing, distribution, collaborations, social media engagement with fans, PR Damage control, lawsuits, brand deals etc) while the artist focuses on ensuring his skills are sharp and is producing hits. I don't listen to genge tone but I know Fathermoh, I'm not his fan but it says a lot about his skills if his songs and popularity can reach an audience outside his fanbase. I also don't think Kenya's music labels have reached that level where they have so much money they can literally make anyone a superstar. A real industry plant is just a face with no talent everything is done for them in the background their songs don't grow organically but are heavily boosted by their label through payola, their streams are faked or botted their lyrics and even image persona are scripted, lifestyle cars are rented from the label, everything about them is manufactured like Milli Vanilli, Boney M's Male lead, Blue face or even Bobi Anthloff. All these people are completely talentless. These are real plants and you need a lot of money to create a plant. Fathermoh is talented. And with or without black market he would have still blown up. At the end of the day if you have the skills its always just a matter of time since the creme of the creme will always rise to the top. Also about artist being broke its not just Kenya, the same is happening even in US. All those rappers are renting out everything courtesy of their label ( jewelry, clothes, cars, apartments etc) as the label tries recoups the funds it had initially invested on the artist. That is why you hear of shitty 360 deals which Blueface was among the victims of this.
Tuma number nikuwekee kakitu juu this blogger is just nuts 😂
They will do to fathermoh what they did with boondocks gang and sailors once they milk all the hits they can from him. Ngoja uone
Yes, he is capable of all that but at what cost? Black market only care about joefes and iphoolish.
@@Joefes sindio Jofe? Si black market only cares about you and iphoolish.... Everyone else gets royally fucked. Mwambie.....
For there to be an industry plant there must be a proper industry with powerful stakeholders which BMR is not so logic yako ya fathermoh kuwa industry plant haimake sense. Fathermoh ni beneficiary wa hard work na luck
Black market is the most powerful label in Kenya. At their peak walikua wame sign boondocks gang, sailors, Rico gang, mbuzi gang and a lot of the top gengetone artists. The music was generating hundreds of millions but the artists walikula less than 70k most of them. The cars, clothes and jewellery ni za label and they use your money to hire it
FATHERMOH first song yake ni ft ssaru, swat, mejja.... how come. A random kid new to Nairobi. Think. Ni label. He was talented that's why he succeeded
@MusicMojojojo hio collab ni mimi niliorganize. We paid no single artist kwa hio project, Swat, Exray and Ssaru have been friends kutoka kitambo so hii logic yako doesn't make sense. It was nothing but years of hard work which finally came into fruition.
@Joefes you guys have been signed to black market all your careers. Naona video zako adi za kitambo. I like "bitch ayama gangsta"😂🔥 you shouldn't have changed your style. But anyway the label paid boondocks and sailors to work with you guys and as I can see that was your first introduction to the mainstream. Don't lie.
@@MusicMojojojoyes kwani kazi ya label ni nini? I got signed as an upcoming, I personally requested to work with boondocks, first project was an EP which I paid 3k usd. Isn't that how it's supposed to be, boondocks got paid and that was a win, Fast forward I LINKED up with fathermoh who had great potential got him his first project which was wagithomo and we never paid a single cent for that project. So issue yako ni fathermoh kublow ama ni nini? Does his succes irk you or something?
Ata hujui kuongea ... Toa ujinga ya joho hapa
@@titusouche3122 re-listen. Maybe there's sth you missed
Get in the studio bro wacha nduru hapa
I'm not a rapper. This here is my job. Zoea
@MusicMojojojo zoea nn kijana
@Katalyst-q2h I'm never gonna stop making videos
@MusicMojojojo did I talk about videos kama youtubing is your passion go for it - I am a hacker and that's what I do for a living shift from mere imagination to facts
@Katalyst-q2h we jua Tu I'll always do this, and if I don't like your favourite artist hio ni shida yako. I say whatever I believe. And I stand on all my words.
enda ukakunie
😂😂😂 lol
Tha Label Is Indeed Shady😅💯
Haya, Ras pia we unajua hii channel? 😂🔥
@illsam 😂😂😂
Ati hua anaimba aje??😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You need to do more research fam. Watching your videos today and you are so oooff on alot. People with info do exist out there
@@kitawimwakitele I have a lot of research. I outed black market and even found the name of the manager, Hakeem.
But if you feel my research is not enough kwa next video I'll improve. I like constructive criticism.
@@MusicMojojojoresearch gani umefanya 😂😂😂 dude this is the most misleading blog nimeona
@Joefes it's a video essay and no it's not. You are signed to BMR, a 360 deal. You can't even comment without your management's approval. Fathermoh came into the industry kama already ame ink 360 deal. Show me one person in BMR who hasn't signed a 360.
nonsense work on yourself kwanza....ulimuona akinunua jaba wap,shenztype
Bee center umoja. Everyone from around there tunaonanga hawa wasee almost daily wakiendea bangi na jaba. Even Shekinah Karen. Black Market waliwatoa kwa ile mini mansion sikuizi wanarentiwa keja kwa ploti flani apa umo. It's sad how much money black market is stealing from these talented artists
Ni kama hujanielewa
@@MusicMojojojostop misleading people
ruclips.net/video/vrCFLd9vm7I/видео.htmlsi=A3agnSW5G4FlQh1c
u sound like this old kenyan youtuber called rexy
I'm not him
I disagree
Disagree with what? That black market is taking his money?