this will not be shown in some classrooms in the country. it will be banned by some school boards, and some departments of education, and on Jan 20th 2025 possibly by the federal education department...
I would object to it being shown in any classroom below college (or AP) level because it is not accurate. First: it is starts by talking about naturalization NOT jus soli or jus sanguinis citizenship. Then conflates the two Nonwhite men were full citizens in several states (in fact it was brought up at the Peace Conference of 1861 AND in southern states Resolutions of Succession); it doesn't include the fact that Italians, Turks, and a handful of other Western Europeans were NOT considered white until the second half of the 20th century; AND the Immigration Act of 1965 substituted one quota system for another ...still controversial.... It omits things like the 1805 decision that found that married women were stripped of their citizenship (There was at least one case about that in the 1960s) This drills down on a presentism bias which is problematic when it comes to studying history In other words, it's a great video for casual learners who know nothing about the subject It is inappropriate for elementary and secondary classrooms
@@SumuduVNagodavithana No, it is because there are actually factual errors. The length of the video may excuse glaring errors of omission (and I will acknowledge my opinion of what is glaring is not everyone's) but the length of the video does not excuse that there are errors that actually teach the wrong thing and pretty much the whole thing suffers from presentism bias
Except its not "truism" It's Truthiness: something that sounds true but is not. There is dome truth in it. There is some falsehood in it. There are glaring omissions and misleading pander. It takes a few grains of fact, makes a few assumptions, stirs in a lot of feelings, and tells a story.
Its still happening in 2024, its just the game has changed. Today, its structural and systematic, you are forever rent, never be able to own, in student debt, junk food, food desert, can't afford to go to college, no ability to climb up the corporate ladder even though you are qualified, stuck at the same wage while cost of living goes up, no ability to participate in the stock market because you don't have the money.
By all means, refuse to recognize and accept any European lineage you may have; wait isn't the very definition of mestizo and points at a decree of 1504, and codified in 1512?!? What about the tens of millions of white Hispanics in places such as Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, and so on? They immigrated to Hispano América from Europe and in significant numbers. If in your book it's an either/or identity; you may be using a similar methodology as the ones who want to fit us in one neat albeit constraining box.
I would prefer that they spread accurate information. As appealing as this is, it suffers from presentism bias and includes a number of false or at least wildly inaccurate statements and interpretations. that being said, most people really don't care about the details
@pmclaughlin4111 Nope. When others here look up the National Origins Act of 1924, there's a world of difference. The exclusion of Mediterranean and Eastern peoples was the result of Calvin Coolidge and his party.
@@dvonzosch461 Calendar check: which comes later 1924 or 1965? I will confess that I had forgotten about that one until you mentioned it. The 1924 quota system was replaced by a different scheme in the intervening years. BTW: My big gripe with Coolidge was his actions during the 1919 Boston Police Strike...I not really a fan of ole Silent Cal.
They swapped quota systems. And the quota system they swapped to (which was a compromise of primarily of humanitarian and economic interests that had to get by Senator Strom Thurmond, notorious racist) is the broken system we have today
You stole my bit.. I call it "Spin the Wheel of Racism". I was born here and am mixed and proud of it. But it sure is an interesting history for us in 🇺🇲. Like you said.. "Remember where your ancestors came from" and maybe we will be free of labels and stereotypes or race and class.
As the concept of race was developing in the 18th, 19th & 20th centuries, the United States went further than most places in terms of the laws enacted to support these new ideas. The U.S. inspired the Germans in the 1930's and Apartheid South Africa. Stop trying to feel better by saying the U.S. is just like other countries. Work to be antiracist! These policies are the foundation of today's institutional racism.
@@iamsaved7 This has nothing to do with downplaying, I was merely pointing out that bad things has happened in every nation and even to this day bad things *are* happening outside the west.
I think the modern challenge is that in America there are now generations of POC who have benefited from (at least in their perspective) or embraced these horrible systems as norms. They can now afford to be just as cruel as their oppressors, and their oppressors have taken that strange loyalty as an advantage. A diverse group of people embracing cruelty leaves our arguments of racial oppression sounding dated (even though it’s still relevant). We need a new way to show people that cruelty is not the answer.
It still comes down to individual responsibility. There is no reason to become a criminal or collect government money due to racism in the past. For example, don't set fire to a store or loot a business over police racism. Everyone must still obey the law. Instead, try going to school and working. It will work out in the long term. A lot of People from the Philippines 🇵🇭 and China are middle-class or rich. It is better to stay away from drugs and the justice system. It is better to stay away from guns and gangs.
You might be thinking of PBS NewsHour; PBS’ educational channels allow comments for the vast majority of videos. (The only exceptions I’ve seen were on videos of highly sensitive topics.)
I’m disappointed that PBS would publish even such a poorly-done, barely intelligible video on race while barely acknowledging the intense racism faced by Arab-Americans-let alone the outright destruction in Gaza. Understanding how past events shape our present is essential, especially when those events still resonate today. However, it feels cynical, even perverse, to focus on historical analysis while ignoring the injustices unfolding right now.
The past creates the present. All of the hatred against ALL non wts is based in these laws that shape the present. Steven Miller is basing the Muslim Ban on the 1924 immigration Act which I bet you know nothing about. The treatment of African is the basis of all discrimination non wt people face. That's why you should know this history to understand your present realty. Don't be myopic see the bigger picture
PBS failed attempt to make me feel guilty about something I had nothing to do with ! Living in the past means never accepting that thing have changed for the better . Pity party cancelled
this will not be shown in some classrooms in the country.
it will be banned by some school boards, and some departments of education,
and on Jan 20th 2025 possibly by the federal education department...
I would object to it being shown in any classroom below college (or AP) level because it is not accurate.
First: it is starts by talking about naturalization NOT jus soli or jus sanguinis citizenship. Then conflates the two
Nonwhite men were full citizens in several states (in fact it was brought up at the Peace Conference of 1861 AND in southern states Resolutions of Succession); it doesn't include the fact that Italians, Turks, and a handful of other Western Europeans were NOT considered white until the second half of the 20th century; AND the Immigration Act of 1965 substituted one quota system for another ...still controversial....
It omits things like the 1805 decision that found that married women were stripped of their citizenship (There was at least one case about that in the 1960s)
This drills down on a presentism bias which is problematic when it comes to studying history
In other words, it's a great video for casual learners who know nothing about the subject
It is inappropriate for elementary and secondary classrooms
@@pmclaughlin4111 Maybe that's because the video is just 5:30 minutes long.
@@SumuduVNagodavithana No, it is because there are actually factual errors. The length of the video may excuse glaring errors of omission (and I will acknowledge my opinion of what is glaring is not everyone's) but the length of the video does not excuse that there are errors that actually teach the wrong thing and pretty much the whole thing suffers from presentism bias
@@pmclaughlin4111 it's a freaking song, not a senior thesis or a master's degree defense, eh?
This video is to provoke discussion surrounding the topic of whiteness and Americanism. You could easily introduce these talking points to your class.
Thanks for addressing this unflattering truisum of American history.
Except its not "truism" It's Truthiness: something that sounds true but is not. There is dome truth in it. There is some falsehood in it. There are glaring omissions and misleading pander. It takes a few grains of fact, makes a few assumptions, stirs in a lot of feelings, and tells a story.
It was the Black civil rights movement that influenced the immigration law of 1965. This is great by the way. Thank you.
This almost feels like school house rock for the modern generation and I'm here for it
I was thinking the same thing.
This reminds me of a mixture of Hamilton the musical and Schoolhouse Rock. If they had a baby, that would be it.
Yes!!! Thank you PBS. From the comments, when the truth finally does come out, it's not the truth THEY want to hear.
Those who are offended by videos such as this have hideous character.
Perhaps it is because this is not the truth. It has truth in the framework but applies presentism bias to create a narrative.
Always support PBS the GOP is trying to shut it down 😢
Its still happening in 2024, its just the game has changed. Today, its structural and systematic, you are forever rent, never be able to own, in student debt, junk food, food desert, can't afford to go to college, no ability to climb up the corporate ladder even though you are qualified, stuck at the same wage while cost of living goes up, no ability to participate in the stock market because you don't have the money.
They are trying to make some Hispanic people white and I refuse. I will forever be proud and open about my mestizo heritage.
By all means, refuse to recognize and accept any European lineage you may have; wait isn't the very definition of mestizo and points at a decree of 1504, and codified in 1512?!? What about the tens of millions of white Hispanics in places such as Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, and so on? They immigrated to Hispano América from Europe and in significant numbers. If in your book it's an either/or identity; you may be using a similar methodology as the ones who want to fit us in one neat albeit constraining box.
Bravo PBS! 🎉🙌🏾👍🏽
George Carlin: WAY AHEAD OF YA 😂
To understand where you are now, you must embrace your past; this awareness will illuminate your vision for the future.
Well done!
Spread this knowledge
Please
I would prefer that they spread accurate information. As appealing as this is, it suffers from presentism bias and includes a number of false or at least wildly inaccurate statements and interpretations. that being said, most people really don't care about the details
No lies detected. 😒
Your lie detector is broken
Informative!
This was well put together, reminds me of the musical, Hamilton ... (what song is that at the end? )
Brilliant! Animation can bring out those difficult truths that make us & at the same time break us.
@4:16 "All quotas were abolished by the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 "
---- Thanks to LBJ and the Democratic Congress ! !
It's also a lie. One system of quotas was abolished. A different system of quotas was adopted.
@pmclaughlin4111 Nope. When others here look up the National Origins Act of 1924, there's a world of difference. The exclusion of Mediterranean and Eastern peoples was the result of Calvin Coolidge and his party.
@@dvonzosch461 Calendar check: which comes later 1924 or 1965? I will confess that I had forgotten about that one until you mentioned it. The 1924 quota system was replaced by a different scheme in the intervening years.
BTW: My big gripe with Coolidge was his actions during the 1919 Boston Police Strike...I not really a fan of ole Silent Cal.
Love this ❤
Great statement at the end!
My ancestors were pasty white Irish Catholics who were greeted with "Irish Need Not Apply!"
Thank you. Educating and well done
As a descendant of an Armenian who migrated to the USA via Damascus, I feel this. I have been called a white person who isn’t really white.
😂😂😂
NOT TOO SHABBY
The “no more quotas” part is, to those who conflate race with nationality, pretty misleading. We effectively still have quotas.
They swapped quota systems. And the quota system they swapped to (which was a compromise of primarily of humanitarian and economic interests that had to get by Senator Strom Thurmond, notorious racist) is the broken system we have today
This is what education can do 👏🏾. The truth should jnform our ideology AND our behavior
Ok...but you quote the inscription on the statue of liberty a bunch of times...why?
This is so creative.
If you can change the rules the rules don't matter
Well done.
You stole my bit.. I call it "Spin the Wheel of Racism".
I was born here and am mixed and proud of it.
But it sure is an interesting history for us in 🇺🇲.
Like you said.. "Remember where your ancestors came from" and maybe we will be free of labels and stereotypes or race and class.
Reverse marxist theory-psychology to filter in there secularism that people are starting to reject by using diversity
Every nation on this planet has skeletons in their closet. Some quite scary even to this day.
And?? This one we live in was built by genocide. And they’re trying to censor that from the youth.
As the concept of race was developing in the 18th, 19th & 20th centuries, the United States went further than most places in terms of the laws enacted to support these new ideas.
The U.S. inspired the Germans in the 1930's and Apartheid South Africa.
Stop trying to feel better by saying the U.S. is just like other countries. Work to be antiracist! These policies are the foundation of today's institutional racism.
Why is this a skeleton?
@@huldu Nothing about this part of American history is made better through comparison. No need to downplay it.
@@iamsaved7 This has nothing to do with downplaying, I was merely pointing out that bad things has happened in every nation and even to this day bad things *are* happening outside the west.
I think the modern challenge is that in America there are now generations of POC who have benefited from (at least in their perspective) or embraced these horrible systems as norms. They can now afford to be just as cruel as their oppressors, and their oppressors have taken that strange loyalty as an advantage. A diverse group of people embracing cruelty leaves our arguments of racial oppression sounding dated (even though it’s still relevant). We need a new way to show people that cruelty is not the answer.
It still comes down to individual responsibility. There is no reason to become a criminal or collect government money due to racism in the past. For example, don't set fire to a store or loot a business over police racism. Everyone must still obey the law. Instead, try going to school and working.
It will work out in the long term. A lot of People from the Philippines 🇵🇭 and China are middle-class or rich. It is better to stay away from drugs and the justice system.
It is better to stay away from guns and gangs.
It's ironic they are using something (rap) created by African Americans to describe this.
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These *honest* videos will end when Kari Lake takes over
👩🏿🎓
So this is where the wokes find their nonsense
Strange. PBS usually has comments disabled.
You might be thinking of PBS NewsHour; PBS’ educational channels allow comments for the vast majority of videos. (The only exceptions I’ve seen were on videos of highly sensitive topics.)
Great programming, yes, programming, Yes, a Role of the Dice..
really? an Act is a law NOT a Law; if you would have taken an Oath of Office you would know the difference between law and Law;
Ima need Jadakiss to do this one or im out sorry PBS.
I’m disappointed that PBS would publish even such a poorly-done, barely intelligible video on race while barely acknowledging the intense racism faced by Arab-Americans-let alone the outright destruction in Gaza.
Understanding how past events shape our present is essential, especially when those events still resonate today. However, it feels cynical, even perverse, to focus on historical analysis while ignoring the injustices unfolding right now.
The past creates the present. All of the hatred against ALL non wts is based in these laws that shape the present. Steven Miller is basing the Muslim Ban on the 1924 immigration Act which I bet you know nothing about. The treatment of African is the basis of all discrimination non wt people face. That's why you should know this history to understand your present realty. Don't be myopic see the bigger picture
The opening is a MAJOR distortion of HISTORY! You forgot to mention WOMEN. TWO THUMBS DOWN PBS!
I can’t believe we taxpayers paid for this .
PBS failed attempt to make me feel guilty about something I had nothing to do with ! Living in the past means never accepting that thing have changed for the better . Pity party cancelled
The past is Prologue 🧐
You still benefit from what happened in the past and what happens everyday. That's why inequity still exists.
Best country on the planet.
What makes you think that?@@carrieon1
Why would you think PBS was trying to make YOU feel guilty? Is it all about you? 🤔
So what?
Oh, pbs, few will miss you.
You love PBS. Can't get enough.