THE ULTIMATE GUIDE TO VADER RAMP

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

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  • @Thorrk_THT
    @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +17

    I realized my explanation for the Turn 3 Vader was not clear at all so let me write it down:
    T1: Play any card
    T2: Play ressupply or Super laser technician (don't use ECL)
    T3: -You start the turn with 5 ressource, use Super laser technician with ECL to get a extra ready ressource.
    -You now have 6 ressource and 3 of them are ready.
    -Play ressupply to get 7 and deploy Vader
    If it's still not clear check out this video made by my good friend Tower: ruclips.net/video/-XT_M-89vM4/видео.html&ab_channel=TowerNumberNine

  • @ninjaferret7
    @ninjaferret7 4 месяца назад +4

    The section in your newer videos describing what sideboard cards you would swap in and what you would swap out for each match up is really useful. For Vader, could you list what cards you would swap in & out for the aggro, boba and control matchups? Thanks!

  • @FindingTheForce
    @FindingTheForce 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing video with extremely valuable information. Thank you so much for sharing it with us 🙏🏻

  • @KahWah-Music
    @KahWah-Music 6 месяцев назад +4

    I like the Han deck you showed in an earlier video, this is a second one I really like. Thanks! The turn 3 Vader made sense to me!

  • @nathanrees1689
    @nathanrees1689 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Thorrk. Cool lil story, you commented on one of my initial Reddit posts to suggest your page when I was new to the game, loved this deck, built it for my first locals (not fully built but used your suggested subs or others I’ve seen) and just won my first locals! Thank you!

  • @RossCooper
    @RossCooper 6 месяцев назад +6

    I am going to build 3 decks initially. Green Sabine, Boba Green & this! I hope you end up doing tech videos for each one lol

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, absolutely.

  • @Anondod
    @Anondod 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent video! I've been futzing around with a similar deck, and I'm going to steal some of this.

  • @L8NGLoopee
    @L8NGLoopee 6 месяцев назад

    Great video. Reallly helpful and detailed.

  • @owlxoggest6247
    @owlxoggest6247 4 месяца назад +2

    Now that there have been some results from bigger tournaments where other variants of Vader (specifically Vader blue) have done well, in addition to some Vader decks opting not to run ECL, has your opinion of what is "the best" Vader deck changed? Have you developed any new Vader decks/strategies for the shifting meta?

  • @dumpychumpers
    @dumpychumpers 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you a ton for this video, extremely helpful! I see the swaps you would make for the sideboard for the aggro matchup, but which swaps would you be making when facing control? Thanks!

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  4 месяца назад

      If we are talking about hard control for this list:
      +1 walker
      +2 fang fighter
      +2 devastator
      +2 snowtrooper
      +2 piett
      -3 force choke
      -3 bombing run
      -3 traiterous

    • @dumpychumpers
      @dumpychumpers 4 месяца назад

      @@Thorrk_THT Wow, thank you so much for that quick reply! Looks great, I'd guessed one of the swaps but not the rest!

  • @mynamesdoom
    @mynamesdoom 6 месяцев назад +1

    Let’s see Krennic next! Great video.

  • @TravyDead
    @TravyDead 6 месяцев назад

    Great insight. Really refined choices here. ❤

  • @deeterful
    @deeterful 6 месяцев назад

    Sweet deck, very similar to what I was considering brewing.

  • @jarrettobrien1297
    @jarrettobrien1297 6 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't have as good units in my deck as this build ( but similar to the build) and won first place at a lgs event

  • @cappea
    @cappea 6 месяцев назад

    Doing a short video walking through mulligan decisions for specific decks would be great

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +2

      Short video ... Yes like 45 minutes 😁

  • @lukewilson5890
    @lukewilson5890 6 месяцев назад

    Great video bro, appreciate the tips and tricks :)

    • @lukewilson5890
      @lukewilson5890 6 месяцев назад

      the first hand and mulligan advice is really helpful too !

  • @nickh-i9846
    @nickh-i9846 4 месяца назад

    Heading to a showdown running this today!

  • @julianbryant2471
    @julianbryant2471 6 месяцев назад +1

    Which is better/more up to date, this one or the one on the GarbageRollers tier list?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      My tier list is my opinion. GarbadeRoller's tier list is their opinion. Both are equally up to date.

  • @gwendalloisel1896
    @gwendalloisel1896 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you have to replace the vador because 50+ euro i cant afford to buy 3 of them, what will you put to replace them?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      Agent kallus

    • @gwendalloisel1896
      @gwendalloisel1896 6 месяцев назад

      @@Thorrk_THT thanks dude , love the deck and the work you put in to make this continu

    • @gwendalloisel1896
      @gwendalloisel1896 6 месяцев назад

      And mercenary company don't fit the curve better to keep an ambush?

  • @Haunter_X
    @Haunter_X 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the explanation on the deck! If it's not asking much, would you put the decklist or link so we can copy it more easily? Great content and keep up!

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      swudb.com/deck/publish/oCoTmPgq

  • @danielesteban826
    @danielesteban826 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent video, I would like to ask what do you think about Motti in the turn 7 resources with Vader? It could work or it don’t worth the slot in the deck? Thanks

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  5 месяцев назад

      It's very situational and "win more", if you have Vader out and can attack with him you are already likely in a good position. If you really want to capitalize on Vader I would advise to play vader's lighsaber. At least Vader saber can be useful in other situations.

  • @JVswashbuckler
    @JVswashbuckler 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for your content! Quick question, have you ever played around with taking advantage of unit Vader playing something out of aspect like Boba unit or death trooper as 1 ofs? Obv low likelihood of pulling it off and if you draw the boba or death trooper before Vader u just resource, but it could be fun to do something ‘broken’ like that 😂

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think there is a pull that is powerful enough to justify that at the moment (maybe a death trooper).
      But it's definitely a good option to keep in mind.

    • @JVswashbuckler
      @JVswashbuckler 6 месяцев назад

      Right on. Another card I’m curious why you didn’t include in SB as an option is Motti to combo w Vader leader? And I feel like this deck could also struggle w some of the cunning combos. You talked a lot about Sabine n boba counters but I’m struggling to stabilize against tricksy non boba cunning matchups too

  • @Raykrueger
    @Raykrueger 6 месяцев назад

    If you did swap in the Snowtrooper Lieutenant, what would you swap out? I'm not sure what all constitutes "Ramp" I'm thinking the resupply?

  • @BiscuitsLover
    @BiscuitsLover 5 месяцев назад

    Great video man, thanks! Can you also share the deck list from swudb? Thanks :)

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  5 месяцев назад

      swudb.com/deck/view/PegleEwdxMU

  • @AdamAnalytical
    @AdamAnalytical 5 месяцев назад

    Any other addtions to this deck you'd consider now? Vader's Lightsaber feels like a decent fit.

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  5 месяцев назад +1

      It's a good card but it doesn't help our bad MU. It's a bit win more, because from the moment vader is in play you are already ahead

    • @AdamAnalytical
      @AdamAnalytical 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Thorrk_THT Thanks for your reply! I just went 4-0 at my locals with this deck minus 1 vader. I haven't had as much time to theory craft and all that so just watching your videos have helped me create a baseline.
      I look forward to all your future videos!

  • @polepoleson
    @polepoleson 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the great video! So is it possible to use Traitorous on an opponents Super Laser Technician then once that is defeated you can have the resource because it was defeated on your side of the board?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes correct

    • @polepoleson
      @polepoleson 6 месяцев назад

      @@Thorrk_THT that's so cool to know! Thanks for your answer

  • @SoloYG68
    @SoloYG68 6 месяцев назад

    SOLO APPROVES!!!

  • @mrmeow2297
    @mrmeow2297 6 месяцев назад

    This games looks quite interesting

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад

      It is! you can try it out for free against the AI on this website: www.forcetable.net/swu

  • @ombracorta-ji4un
    @ombracorta-ji4un 3 месяца назад

    I always find very hard to survive against Green Sabine using Vader Ramp, do I miss something ?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  3 месяца назад +1

      No you don't, it's a tough MU, people have been going away from ECL to play 30hp instead with very good results

    • @ombracorta-ji4un
      @ombracorta-ji4un 3 месяца назад

      @@Thorrk_THT tried, but it's not enough, I found useful Snow lieutenant to trade Sabine with low cost units, but still not fast enough. Here in Italy Green Sabine is played so much U__U

  • @chrisybarra108
    @chrisybarra108 3 месяца назад

    Has this deck changed much?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes a bit I will make a video about the updated version

  • @adamhalbrook9606
    @adamhalbrook9606 6 месяцев назад +1

    What’s the counter to this? I can’t stand facing this deck already. Barrage needs to be banned or nerfed.

    • @JustinRabackoff
      @JustinRabackoff 6 месяцев назад

      Boba does really well against this deck

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад

      Yes as I said in the video aggro, aggro has about 65% against this deck.

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      Boba does Ok against everything but it's by no mean a counter. Actually I would argue that Vader green is one of the best performing deck against Boba.

  • @Othoa
    @Othoa 6 месяцев назад

    If you dont have vader, what card do you play?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад

      I would consider Agent Kallus/Rukh or At-ST.

  • @MeepleonFire
    @MeepleonFire 6 месяцев назад

    So against an aggro deck, you would remove 2 ressuply for 2 snowtrooper if I got it right?
    And against control you remove the x3 starvipers?
    Also, you don't like Yularen against aggro?
    Thanks!

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yularen doesn't heal enough in this deck to be worth it, we simply don't play enough green unit.
      against aggro -3 resupply -1 palpatine +2 snowtrooper +1 walker + 1 fang fighter

    • @MeepleonFire
      @MeepleonFire 6 месяцев назад

      @@Thorrk_THT thanks man, that makes sense but sometimes against aggro 2 or 3 heal can make the difference. Why the fang fighter against aggro btw?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад

      @@MeepleonFire You will be VERY lucky to heal 3 with Yularen in this deck, 1 has been my average. Just a bit more space presence when your opponent tries to area dodge you, ecl+ fang fighter kill a-wing without dying.

    • @MeepleonFire
      @MeepleonFire 6 месяцев назад

      @@Thorrk_THT yeah that makes sense!

    • @sdc3536
      @sdc3536 5 месяцев назад

      @@Thorrk_THT what decks would you use devastator and Piett against, and what would be taken out for them? Love your analysis, but feel like nobody goes into specifics about how to properly use the sideboard in their videos.

  • @mikeliggett1599
    @mikeliggett1599 5 месяцев назад

    No force lightning

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  5 месяцев назад

      If we were going to play a force synergy card we would play force throw over force lightning.
      Unfortunately Force throw really only helps in late game when we manage to get a force unit out, so too situtaional in this version of the deck.

  • @alexpowell9173
    @alexpowell9173 6 месяцев назад

    No steadfast battalion?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад +1

      The whole point of steadfast bataillon is to be used alongside your leader on turn 4 to ambush your opponent leader, this doesn't work at all if your leader cost 7

  • @ZoSoPage1977
    @ZoSoPage1977 5 месяцев назад +1

    What the heck is "ramp"?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  5 месяцев назад

      Ramp cards are cards that increase your available resources permanently. So basically cards like Superlaser techncian or Resupply.
      The name take its origin from the very first card that could do that in the history of TCG: Rampant Growth from Magic the Gathering.

  • @poisson-cru2113
    @poisson-cru2113 6 месяцев назад

    why nobody play 30 cards ?

    • @Thorrk_THT
      @Thorrk_THT  6 месяцев назад

      Because the minimum deck size in constructed is 50. 30 is only for draft and sealed thankfully

    • @poisson-cru2113
      @poisson-cru2113 6 месяцев назад

      ah ok i didnt know that thx :) @@Thorrk_THT