This is the first time I have seen one of your videos. I have seen many, many videos on the internet that explain all kinds of gear. I have to hand it to you. You do the best explaining on how a piece of gear works over anyone I have encountered. I have seen a ton. I may not be into the music you listen to, but it was perfect for your demonstration and it even gave me a greater appreciation. In fact I want to have that full song. Please keep the videos coming and do NOT change a thing. I have subscribed to your channel.
I call this my 'magic box'. There will be times where I run audio through it and the mix just completely opens up! I highly suggest running organic instruments through it to hear it shine! Thanks for the video.
I picked up one of these a couple years ago and absolutely love it. There’s not enough videos on this piece of gear, would love to see you use it in one of your actual mixing sessions. Great videos
Thank you foe the video! As an MBP owner, I was almost nervous seeing the new gear. Hearing it rested my heart and saved my wallet. I have a love for the MBP and its insane detail. Its not the glue of a mix. Its the sizzle and topology. Unmatched by any other gear I would enjoy the silk blue and red in a unit but not the MBT. To be fair, the mbp needs another comp before it to tighten it all up. The mbt is not it. Maybe the manley comp or some OG SSL, not the fusion stuff. A good fet that tightens things up and adds a bit if oomf if thats whats needed. The mbp is the mastering unit that adds all that detail and musicality that i really havent heard in anything else. Even this new mbt can not compare to the air and detail. I feel the new neve gear is simial to the new ssl stuff. Just not as good imo. Portico and Shelford are creme of the crop.
Don’t know what I like better, the demo or the song, and I don’t even normally listen to this style of music. Love the arrangement..Brilliant again Devon.
Great video not only explaining all the features but how it sounds. Your video of the MBP is the best one on YT. I’ve had my unit for 18 months now, its a special piece for sure. The SFE module is top notch.
Hey thanks for these - I'm waiting for mine to arrive and I'm really excited I made the plunge. Finding your channel has been a breath of fresh air honestly. Having somebody logically show you the functions along with some theory behind it helps put my mind at ease with what I was looking for...because obv this stuff is not cheap and can be a dark art for folks who aren't around high grade gear regularly while producing. The way this stuff works can be really subtle but the proof is right there in your ears.
Thanks for breaking down the silk section with a little more in depth, I hear 150-450hz in silk blue with more depth on my 8351's, which could be the result of taming the higher frequencies. The SFE is amazing. Blows AA Snow out the water. Snow is great, but this is incredible. First time I heard this was at a friends studio as well, and was like, this is what a compressor is supposed to sound like? Butter.
That record that you made is crazy. It should have been on the charts. It's scary when I listen to what's out there and the quality of mastering that was done. You have quality and a good style.
Thank you so much for this excellent. I can tell a lot of time was put into this video. You explained the unit better than anyone else and the examples you provided were very insightful. I know Rupert Neve also has come out with the Master Buss Transformer that has a compressor, EQ and silk. However that box has a opto compressor with no feedback/feed forward mode and there is not the flexiblity of the amount of attack control, and the EQ is just a 2 band shelf EQ. So I am more attracted to the Master Bus Processor.
Hey awesome demo! imo the best mbp demo on yt. One thing about the sidechain- it’s the frequency range that the compressor’s detector circuit “sees,” aka what it responds to. But it will still compress the full signal. You kind of said it both ways, so I’m sure you know this and sry for being ‘that guy.’ But yea man, amazing stuff regardless, sub’d!
Great content as always! I bet that Portico II would sound amazing paired with the Dangerous Music Bax EQ. I have it paired with my SSL Fusion now... ridiculous amount of space and depth!
I have the Portico also. Great explanation of the functionality. You cleared up some points regarding the width and depth eq controls and limiter for me. The Portico is worth the money. I love it! Very clear and knowledgeable presentation. Plus your song is very cool.
Feed forward and feedback blends the dry audio with the wet (compressed) audio. Blend knob determines how much dry v wet sound is fed into the compressor. Think of parallel compression.
@@mevtherenegade yea I have both. B32 summing out to Fusion and Buss+ with Bax Eq and that’s fed to Burl ADC for the mix print. Mater print is MBP and Symph Eq to Convert AD+✍🏾
Could you please please please make a video about the Prism? There are no good reviews on RUclips, believe me, I’ve been looking for a while. Help me, Devvon (literally) 😂
Could you essentially use this one unit as a complete mastering source? No plugins nothing else. (Let's say the mix is already on point). Just this, watcha think?
Wow! Seems to be a very thought out unit… I was looking at the Ssl fusion but this unit seems to have more options…the fusion seems kind of gimmicky. Nice clip bro.. I could get it but my Credit cards are maxed out…lol
Just disengage sfe to comp fonction when you are demonstrating sfe, this is changing a lot. When sfe to comp is engage, you have a different architecture in the signal path, and this is little confusing your tests and what results from it. Best
So happy you did this vid, also this song is really dope btw! So you use this piece for mastering and the dangerous 2bus plus for mixing? Would love to know how you use the 2 pieces of gear together in addition to the God Particle. Im absolutely in love with the dangerous 2 bus plus you showed us and I also been eyeing the portico ii and liking that as well. Would deff love to see your mix and mastering sessions one day.
I've been using a Presonus Quantum audio interface and Focusrite ISA ONE mic pre amp for awhile now.. and had an Apogee Ensemble firewire interface some years back... seems like this piece of gear would level up sound quality in a major way. Sounds amazing from what I can tell !! Super dope. How do you connect this to your laptop x DAW so it effects the master bus / entire mix ?
Thanks for doing this video. I’m curious to know what your advice would be to someone just starting out on outboard gear. I’m currently looking into an RND channel or a Shelford channel. Right now I am going straight from my Mojave 201 get into a baby face Fs pro into my mac. Would you recommend a channel strip for the pres, eq and compression, or, perhaps the Neve mix bus you have?
if you're trying to get the best vocal chain you can get right now, I'd get the Neve Newton. but if you want to be able to use your gear for mixing/mastering, look into buying dedicated preamps, compressors and EQ's to get the best of both worlds. but for the price the Newton is half the price of the Shelford and almost as good. if money is no factor then get a Neve 1073 and a CL1B
Hi Devon i’m a big Rupert Neve fan but this explanation you gave on this unit is super fabulous thank you very much. I have RN 5057 Summing-RN 542’s-Tegeler Crème what do you think if I get this RN Portico II MBP. Thanks
I’m so torn between this a Crain audio and ssl buss plus other 500 for mastering. Or the ssl fusion and ssl buss single space. This thing just does soooo much.
Disclamer: I am not trolling this Video....I think this is an awesome unit....especially as a final analog mastering Unit...for anyones Studio..... I have discorved using my own songs as audio experiments..... If you use Amethyst 4 by Acustica Audio...with Karacter by Plugin and Alliance on Turbo Mode but only at 35% with ASH Grey D2...on your Analog mix Then use the Amethyst 4 Pre in 2500 Bus Mode, again with Karacter (Master) Amek 250 EQ with THD up to 100 and Stereo with up to 120, Nebula Alex Bs Pres Colors and Saturation in Rupert Neve Silk Mode and Ash Again on final analog Master that 100% Duplicates the Same Width, Tone, Lushness, and Sonic Weight on that Unit Now...all the Plugins together Total.....$450-$500 but....thats not a bad Investment while your Saving up for a Portico Keep in mind....before EVERYBODY piles in on me...LOL...Im talking about using these plugins ......On a Mix and Master you were able to run through "Some kind of analog Chain of your own outside of your DAW...then these plugins will get you the "Same Finish" as if you ran that analog mix through a Portico or Master Bus Transformer
Great review! Hey man do you use this as at the insert of you 2 bus +. If you do do you combine silk red/blue with the harmonics knob and how does it sound?
And that’s exactly where I’m stuck myself. Please do let us know which one you end up going for and why. If money wasn’t a thing I’d probably just grab both. Have never struggled this much when making a gear related decision. Not easy.
It’s simple, what do you need? What’s the scenario? Final mixdown? Mastering? MBT is great for final touch. Forget about dynamics. If you need a compressor, this is not for you! MBP is strictly compression first. With Attack and Release, Blend, SC, FB/FF capabilities. Also with added complex MID/SIDE features and Silk( if you run it through a MID/SIDE encoder you have SILK independent on both channels. When you want (which you will want) to control or what I call level your dynamics In your final process, It can be quite transparent and is very “musical”. Forgot to mention the incredible limiter you get. You can squeeze your signal for more loudness at the final stage. I see a lot of people don’t even know how to use it. On your drum bus this is INSANE! While both are great MBT is limited if you do NOT have a mastering compressor ALREADY. 👍
So this thing can almost do anythinf when it comes to mastering. How do you use it? How do you implement it in your mastering chain, or even in mixing?
Could I use it for tracking, like recording electric guitars (clean, overdrive, hot Solo...- you got the point), or this beauty is more like for Master only? I was considering getting two units for tracking from Empirical Labs (EL8-XS Distressor- in stereo), but I'm very curious if I can get amazing/crazy results with this one, for tracking...!?! Super awesome unit for Mastering- very well done- I have to get it...!!!
Yep I was thinking along the same lines but it would be sweet to throw stereo subs thru this like drums and guitars even background vocals groups… the possibilities are endless. Would for sure be needing a patch bay for the different routing uses.
This is the first time I have seen one of your videos. I have seen many, many videos on the internet that explain all kinds of gear. I have to hand it to you. You do the best explaining on how a piece of gear works over anyone I have encountered. I have seen a ton. I may not be into the music you listen to, but it was perfect for your demonstration and it even gave me a greater appreciation. In fact I want to have that full song. Please keep the videos coming and do NOT change a thing. I have subscribed to your channel.
I call this my 'magic box'. There will be times where I run audio through it and the mix just completely opens up! I highly suggest running organic instruments through it to hear it shine! Thanks for the video.
I picked up one of these a couple years ago and absolutely love it. There’s not enough videos on this piece of gear, would love to see you use it in one of your actual mixing sessions. Great videos
Same. It's the one piece of gear I can't live without. I immediately know when it's bypassed, it makes that much of an overall difference.
Thank you foe the video! As an MBP owner, I was almost nervous seeing the new gear. Hearing it rested my heart and saved my wallet. I have a love for the MBP and its insane detail. Its not the glue of a mix. Its the sizzle and topology. Unmatched by any other gear
I would enjoy the silk blue and red in a unit but not the MBT. To be fair, the mbp needs another comp before it to tighten it all up. The mbt is not it. Maybe the manley comp or some OG SSL, not the fusion stuff. A good fet that tightens things up and adds a bit if oomf if thats whats needed. The mbp is the mastering unit that adds all that detail and musicality that i really havent heard in anything else. Even this new mbt can not compare to the air and detail.
I feel the new neve gear is simial to the new ssl stuff. Just not as good imo. Portico and Shelford are creme of the crop.
Don’t know what I like better, the demo or the song, and I don’t even normally listen to this style of music. Love the arrangement..Brilliant again Devon.
Time to max out the credit card again. 😆
Thx Devvon
ANYTIME LMAO
Great video not only explaining all the features but how it sounds. Your video of the MBP is the best one on YT. I’ve had my unit for 18 months now, its a special piece for sure. The SFE module is top notch.
Hey thanks for these - I'm waiting for mine to arrive and I'm really excited I made the plunge. Finding your channel has been a breath of fresh air honestly. Having somebody logically show you the functions along with some theory behind it helps put my mind at ease with what I was looking for...because obv this stuff is not cheap and can be a dark art for folks who aren't around high grade gear regularly while producing. The way this stuff works can be really subtle but the proof is right there in your ears.
Please Never Stop What You Doing Devvon🙂
Thanks for breaking down the silk section with a little more in depth, I hear 150-450hz in silk blue with more depth on my 8351's, which could be the result of taming the higher frequencies. The SFE is amazing. Blows AA Snow out the water. Snow is great, but this is incredible.
First time I heard this was at a friends studio as well, and was like, this is what a compressor is supposed to sound like? Butter.
That record that you made is crazy. It should have been on the charts. It's scary when I listen to what's out there and the quality of mastering that was done. You have quality and a good style.
Yep, nice song and production,, he sounds a bit like Usher
Nice video. "Depth" is just the mid channel volume, while "width" is the side channel volume - easier to grasp that way
Thank you so much for this excellent. I can tell a lot of time was put into this video. You explained the unit better than anyone else and the examples you provided were very insightful. I know Rupert Neve also has come out with the Master Buss Transformer that has a compressor, EQ and silk. However that box has a opto compressor with no feedback/feed forward mode and there is not the flexiblity of the amount of attack control, and the EQ is just a 2 band shelf EQ. So I am more attracted to the Master Bus Processor.
You’re best song yet
Your videos are straight fire. My mind is blown. This box sounds dope bypassed.
Subscribed.
Hey awesome demo! imo the best mbp demo on yt.
One thing about the sidechain- it’s the frequency range that the compressor’s detector circuit “sees,” aka what it responds to. But it will still compress the full signal. You kind of said it both ways, so I’m sure you know this and sry for being ‘that guy.’
But yea man, amazing stuff regardless, sub’d!
Good review, thanks. Been with mine for 2 years now. Killer piece.
I just got the Neve 5059 yesterday and I’m enjoying the silk and the headroom also!!! As always your music 🔥
Great content as always! I bet that Portico II would sound amazing paired with the Dangerous Music Bax EQ. I have it paired with my SSL Fusion now... ridiculous amount of space and depth!
I use it with the dangerous 2 bus +!
@@HelpMeDevvon Those filters on the Dangerous Bax are no joke especially after Dangerous summing. Love the podcast. The trk slaps too.
I have the Portico also. Great explanation of the functionality. You cleared up some points regarding the width and depth eq controls and limiter for me. The Portico is worth the money. I love it! Very clear and knowledgeable presentation. Plus your song is very cool.
Ohhh shit!!! I have one for years now. Please teach me how to use it
You gotta use it!!
What a beast this unit 🌪⚡️
MONSTER! instead of buying a bunch of different things its so all in one
Appreciate the gems over the years !
I have it but i so much love the music you are playing on the box
My next piece of gear ⚙️ 🔥🔥🔥
Fantastic overview of the MBP. Thank you!!
WOW! Thank you for the video and valuable information!
Now your cooking 🧑🍳. I have my output from that going to the Heritage Symph eq
Great review! The MBP is what I need to take my stuff to the next level. I like how many features you get in the box!
Beautiful song - going through some beautiful gear. Great video - thank you.
If I could give you 100k likes, I would do it. Best video I've seen highlighting this piece.
Feed forward and feedback blends the dry audio with the wet (compressed) audio. Blend knob determines how much dry v wet sound is fed into the compressor. Think of parallel compression.
That thing sounds amazing.
Best video on the MBP so far. Been looking a this unit for a while! Might be the time soon
Great presentation.....Also top notch production....Thanks!
Awesome video. Just got one. Best video in real world.
I bought the ssl fusion, .love it!
I took the fusion over this. Love this unit but the price is steep!
I wanna hear a side by side so bad
@@mevtherenegade Fusion is a good mixbuss processor. Wonna get some depth and power for your masters go with the MBP
2 diff beasts the Fusion & The MBP though!
@@mevtherenegade yea I have both. B32 summing out to Fusion and Buss+ with Bax Eq and that’s fed to Burl ADC for the mix print. Mater print is MBP and Symph Eq to Convert AD+✍🏾
Nice I can hear the difference.
I’d be really interested to see a head to head comparison between the Neve and a cheaper software replacement
Tune is FIRE!
Hey Devon!!! CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW THE WAY TO HOOK TO UAD
I’m on my phone and I can hear the details when I get home I want to listen to this in my studio!!!!
Your tracks are 🔥
Bruh your songs sound good man. It's time for you to start getting your music into clubs
I love the song
thanks bud
Great music man!
great video man!!
Ahhh you got the titan haha nice.
Ur song is dope!🔥🔥
Would have been nice If it was a level matched example, when level matched it does sound really nice still and just adds some special to it.
Could you please please please make a video about the Prism? There are no good reviews on RUclips, believe me, I’ve been looking for a while. Help me, Devvon (literally) 😂
Could you essentially use this one unit as a complete mastering source? No plugins nothing else. (Let's say the mix is already on point). Just this, watcha think?
great video!
Lol, Bro lookin spicy.
Wow! Seems to be a very thought out unit… I was looking at the Ssl fusion but this unit seems to have more options…the fusion seems kind of gimmicky. Nice clip bro.. I could get it but my Credit cards are maxed out…lol
Just disengage sfe to comp fonction when you are demonstrating sfe, this is changing a lot. When sfe to comp is engage, you have a different architecture in the signal path, and this is little confusing your tests and what results from it. Best
So happy you did this vid, also this song is really dope btw!
So you use this piece for mastering and the dangerous 2bus plus for mixing? Would love to know how you use the 2 pieces of gear together in addition to the God Particle. Im absolutely in love with the dangerous 2 bus plus you showed us and I also been eyeing the portico ii and liking that as well. Would deff love to see your mix and mastering sessions one day.
thanks for the cool video!
I've been using a Presonus Quantum audio interface and Focusrite ISA ONE mic pre amp for awhile now.. and had an Apogee Ensemble firewire interface some years back... seems like this piece of gear would level up sound quality in a major way. Sounds amazing from what I can tell !! Super dope. How do you connect this to your laptop x DAW so it effects the master bus / entire mix ?
Respect king love the videos.. quick question.. would you say that if this was all you had to master a good mix it would be enough..?
Bro do you have an album out? Your music is fire
Yes bro has a lot of music out, look up his name in Apple Music and Spotify 👌🏾
@@ThatDarnGenius thanks
Wow that sounds great! Did you track those vocals through that UA710? Sheesh!
Amazing!!!
Cool piece of hardware and very detail step by step! BTW what are those headphones you are using? Bests.
I auto respond myself -> MAONO AU-MH601
Thanks for doing this video. I’m curious to know what your advice would be to someone just starting out on outboard gear. I’m currently looking into an RND channel or a Shelford channel. Right now I am going straight from my Mojave 201 get into a baby face Fs pro into my mac. Would you recommend a channel strip for the pres, eq and compression, or, perhaps the Neve mix bus you have?
if you're trying to get the best vocal chain you can get right now, I'd get the Neve Newton. but if you want to be able to use your gear for mixing/mastering, look into buying dedicated preamps, compressors and EQ's to get the best of both worlds. but for the price the Newton is half the price of the Shelford and almost as good. if money is no factor then get a Neve 1073 and a CL1B
Bro ur song is fire. What song is that?
Hi Devon i’m a big Rupert Neve fan but this explanation you gave on this unit is super fabulous thank you very much. I have RN 5057 Summing-RN 542’s-Tegeler Crème what do you think if I get this RN Portico II MBP. Thanks
Which would u choose if u had to decide what's more important the dangerous summon mixer or this??
Master Buss Processor!
Very well explained presentation my man. Great video production as well! Subbed.
Niiiiccce Song!
I’m so torn between this a Crain audio and ssl buss plus other 500 for mastering. Or the ssl fusion and ssl buss single space. This thing just does soooo much.
Yo brotha devvon let me have one of your old preamps lol I never had one
your changes sound good, but the a/b seems to be a lot different in terms of gain. thanks!
Does this count as summing as well
Hey, Devvon how do you record your audio when making on or off-screen tutorials?
So between and the shellfire inductor, eq and compressor which one songs more tight… btw what speaker do you use
Been hearing great things about that unit. What were your "runner up" converters next to the prism?
Disclamer: I am not trolling this Video....I think this is an awesome unit....especially as a final analog mastering Unit...for anyones Studio.....
I have discorved using my own songs as audio experiments.....
If you use Amethyst 4 by Acustica Audio...with Karacter by Plugin and Alliance on Turbo Mode but only at 35% with ASH Grey D2...on your Analog mix
Then use the Amethyst 4 Pre in 2500 Bus Mode, again with Karacter (Master) Amek 250 EQ with THD up to 100 and Stereo with up to 120, Nebula Alex Bs Pres Colors and Saturation in Rupert Neve Silk Mode and Ash Again on final analog Master
that 100% Duplicates the Same Width, Tone, Lushness, and Sonic Weight on that Unit
Now...all the Plugins together Total.....$450-$500 but....thats not a bad Investment while your Saving up for a Portico
Keep in mind....before EVERYBODY piles in on me...LOL...Im talking about using these plugins ......On a Mix and Master you were able to run through "Some kind of analog Chain of your own outside of your DAW...then these plugins will get you the "Same Finish" as if you ran that analog mix through a Portico or Master Bus Transformer
What’s the difference between the Master Buss processor and a Summing mix?
Thanks
I have the white face RND MBP and would like to know how do you use it with the Dangerous 2 buss + before or after the RND MBP or if at all?
So is this the reason youre able to get -8 lufs or louder now?
Great review! Hey man do you use this as at the insert of you 2 bus +. If you do do you combine silk red/blue with the harmonics knob and how does it sound?
It’s after the 2 bus+ so the signal flow is PRISM - DANGEROUS 2BUS + - NEVE PORTICO - BACK INTO PRISM
I’m tryna have the best studio in the hood 😂😂
bagus bgt ajggg 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Yo just a quick concern. When I add high end to my vocals they sound really brittle and not full of life like yours. Any help?
I have one and it's nice
what kind of chair are you using there? where can i get one?
So you use this AND the 2bus+ or one or the other ? What is the chain?
im having a battle between the portico and the master bus transformer. what's the best way to choose?
And that’s exactly where I’m stuck myself. Please do let us know which one you end up going for and why. If money wasn’t a thing I’d probably just grab both. Have never struggled this much when making a gear related decision. Not easy.
@@AboutHouseMusic I got you bro.
It’s simple, what do you need? What’s the scenario? Final mixdown? Mastering?
MBT is great for final touch. Forget about dynamics. If you need a compressor, this is not for you!
MBP is strictly compression first. With Attack and Release, Blend, SC, FB/FF capabilities. Also with added complex MID/SIDE features and Silk( if you run it through a MID/SIDE encoder you have SILK independent on both channels.
When you want (which you will want) to control or what I call level your dynamics In your final process, It can be quite transparent and is very “musical”. Forgot to mention the incredible limiter you get. You can squeeze your signal for more loudness at the final stage. I see a lot of people don’t even know how to use it. On your drum bus this is INSANE!
While both are great MBT is limited if you do NOT have a mastering compressor ALREADY. 👍
So are u not using the dangerous anymore?
So this thing can almost do anythinf when it comes to mastering. How do you use it? How do you implement it in your mastering chain, or even in mixing?
It literally goes at the very end dumbasss
can this be used as a limiter
Has. Limiter on it. It’s on the right side of each compressor section of the unit
Could I use it for tracking, like recording electric guitars (clean, overdrive, hot Solo...- you got the point), or this beauty is more like for Master only? I was considering getting two units for tracking from Empirical Labs (EL8-XS Distressor- in stereo), but I'm very curious if I can get amazing/crazy results with this one, for tracking...!?!
Super awesome unit for Mastering- very well done- I have to get it...!!!
Yep I was thinking along the same lines but it would be sweet to throw stereo subs thru this like drums and guitars even background vocals groups… the possibilities are endless. Would for sure be needing a patch bay for the different routing uses.
There are no rules, you can use or do anything you want. Even cheap compressors like, the, Alesis 3630 sounds excellent on some things, not all.
When did you get that delicious Prism Sound interface Devvon? 🤔😅
Like a year ago!!
Song so dope ! Put out New tracks please
Try - 4 lufs if it doesn't distort
Haha so clean that’s niice
What cable brands you use ?