Great video. I've only done FOX in the past so I wanted to see the difference. I'm looking to print the driver using my 3d printer (I've done this for FOX driver, WP suspensions driver..), but I cannot find a 3d file nor I can find informations to recreate it on the computer.
Hello, thank you and congratulations for the video, very cool. Tell me something: How can I reduce the travel of the M212 shock from 50mm to 40mm? Brazil sales!
Hi Bike Na Vida, thanks for your message and support of our channel. From your message it sounds like you have a non-metric 109 x 51 rear shock and would like to change the stroke to work with a newer metric frame (190 x 40) Firstly I recommend getting the correct shock for the frame as there are some differences other than just the stroke and the air can is different as well. However if you are not able to get a new metric shock then you can reduce the stroke in the shock but you will need to de-gas the shock, clamp the damper shaft in soft jaws, remove the shock head and add a 10mm spaced to reduce the stroke. This is a specific spacer that we machine up to fit correctly and work with the damper main head. If you do not have the nitrogen or tool requirements for this this I would not recommend attempting the work. Rather send it to a shock service Centre for the correct work or purchase the new shock.
Hello, thank you very much for your attention and guidance, the shock is new, its original dimensions are 190mm x 50mm, and I need to leave it with 190mm x 40mm, I think I will send it to a specialized service in my locality.
Video is good. It is a pity that not the whole process of service is shown. You did not disassemble the damper, and this part raises the most questions in these rear shock.
Thanks for your feedback, the damper service requires some specific tools and nitrogen for the IFP charge which is why I dont show the complete service. If you need any specific info please contact me on my website email address info@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za
@@ischaser7690 Did you find good info on how to service the damper part it self? Mine sounds like it has air in the oil. You can hear and feel the bobble when you move it up and down with low air pressure. That can't de right, right??
Hi Rob! Thanks a lot for the very helpful video. In my case, the glide ring is broken - but unfortunately this one is not included in the sealkit I ordered (cwkxxxxx86202s), where all other parts perfectly fitted my nude 2 damper. Which sealing kit do I need to order? Thanks a lot for your reply! Lukas
Hi @rogge3923 thanks for your message and support of the channel. You need to order this glide ring separately and it needs to be pressed in under the air can seal. The DT Swiss code is CXDXXXXZ08344S
Hi thanks for your message, yes I am able to repair and rebuild all the DT Swiss dampers. I have send you an email for additional information. Thanks and have a great day.
Hi King, just another question, can i use the same procedure described on video to service a dt nude 2? to fix a lock out that doesn't lock anymore, should i work on the ifp camera? is there any chance to fix it without open the internal chamber of the piston? thanks a lot!
Hi Gerasio Masotti , you an certainly use this procedure to do a standard aircan service, however the damper service needs to be performed by an authorized service center due to the tools required and pressure in the shock
Hey Rob, nice video! I'm from Brazil, and it's very hard to find these original dt swiss repair kits. Can you send me a photo of the white glide ring specifically? Thanks from Brazil!!!!
Hi Yes you are able to, please send me an email to robbie@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za and I will send the details. However i recommend that you get the press if you are going to perform multiple services.
Hi Rob, I have old Dt Swiss SSD 210. It looks like it losing pressure after a week. I can not find new one and used too :( Your service procedure should be similar for the SSD 210? One more challenge will be finding where i can buy a set of gaskets... By the way, do you know if I can find a replacement for SSD 210 which will fit to my bike?
Hi Beniaminkubiak9815, thanks for your message and support of our channel. So the SSD210 is quite different to the M212 and has a different seal kit and we do stock these still and have some parts still available. My suggestion is to inflate the shock to 250PSI and put it in a water bath for some time to see where the air is coming out. if its a small leak like your message suggests its possible that the shock needs to stay overnight in the water. You should then look for small bubbles coming from the shock or adhering to the shock if the leak is really small. So once the leak is detected you can decide how to fix this. My recommendation is a full service including the damper, and this needs to be done by a technical service center that has the correct tools for the job. Keep in mind that this could become more costly than just replacing the shock with a new unit. Please feel free to email me on rbcbikes@gmail.com for more details.
hello, thank you for the fully detailed video, just a question: is the same service for m210? i have a scott spark 50 from 2010 with the dt m210 and i should do the service. Please can you tell me if the service in the video is also for m210? Is it working in the same way? Thank you!
Hi Gerasio, thanks for your email and support of the channel. For the shock service please check the serial/model number on the top of the shock near the lockout, this should say either M210 or M212. DT swiss did a running change for Scott on the M210 mid year so its always good to check for the correct model number number. For the air kit the service should be the same, the M210 kits are divided into air can and damper kits which are different to the M212 so make sure that you check and confirm the model number before you buy the seal kit.
anyway is the service the same for both models? i mean if i open a m210 or a m212 just to put new grease, the inside will be the same? the service procedure will be the same also withouth changing seals?
Hi Ignacio, thanks for your message. For the air can service on this shock you will need the DT Swiss M212/X313 ABS air chamber kit - the DT code is CWXXXXX86032S - this is the same kit I used in the video
It's like there's a pressure in a negative chamber that doesn't let it open. Even if I empty out all the air, it closes, shrinks and doesn't stay open, loose. is locked closed
Hi Alexandre, thanks for your message, as i understand the shock is compressed down? Please send me a picture of the shock on my email rbcbikes@gmail.com and I will offer a solution.
Robbie, i have a little, minuscular play at the spherical bearings, i have tighten with a torque wrench at manufacture's N'm 10. is this normal or i have to replace the spherical bearings then? thank you so much for responding to the people.
This happend when i lift up the bike in the seatpost, when i lift a little little bit, it feels like a minuscular play, and when i lock the suspension, it is not the another bearings of the basculant
Hi William, the Spherical bearings, ball joint bearings need replacement, they do wear out and then there will be play on the shock. These can be purchased individually and replaced as needed.
Hi, this requires nitrogen and you need to set the floating piston to the correct depth. This is a dangerous job if you are not trained or have the right tools. I would not try this if you don't know the procedures. The nitrogen pressure is 400psi .
Hy. I have a shock DT x313. There was no air pressure. I calibrated it and after trying to do the SAG, it went down and lost course. Now even calibrating it with 250/260lbs, it doesn't open fully. stay with 25% of the course inside. What can it be?
Hello, I'm from Guatemala, very good video and practice, I do not know if you could help me I have an M3 of 2013 and I can not find the Seal kit, in any online store you could help me get them
Hi I break my glad ring (the ring white, he block the ring on the top on shock) My model it's m212. Where I find this part ? Do you have a model in use to press the seal on shock ? I'm in France Thank you for your help
Hi Sebastian, thanks for your message, sorry to hear you have broken the glide ring. The DT agents in France are able to assist you, you can contact them on +33 4 92 60 90 58. The address is DT SWISS FRANCE PARC Route de Gourdon Parc d'activite de la Sarrée 06620, Route de Gourdon, Le Bar-sur-Loup, France.
hello, how to calibrate the damper of the M3 dtswiss, as it has the valve but it has no connection to my emptied and now I can not regulate the indentation and is giving final course
Morning, there is a valve in the lower damper unit which separates the nitrogen charge from the damper oil. Special tools and skills are required to open and service this part of the shock. The IFP is charged to 400 psi and this is a dangerous pressure if you don't work correctly and in the proper manner with the right tools. I recommend that you take the shock to your closest DT Swiss service center for assistance. Where are you located and I will advise the closest service center to you.
Hi Rob.I have a DT Swiss Scott nude 2 shock from a 2012 Scott spark 30 26er.I cant find any parts or where to buy a new or used one.Do you know what other shock and hardware is compatible with this bike and if so provide a link.Its my first bike and its been sitting for 2 years because i have not been able to find the shock.
Hi Javilos999, thanks for your message, your bike was the first of the new Scott linkage design and has a 190 x 50 rear shock. the previous (2011) year had a 165/38 . If you cant fix your DT which is a 190 x 50 then a shock of the same length and stroke from RockShox or Fox will work. However the remote lever will not be compatible with either and there is a possibility that the shock tune is not correct for the Scott's leverage rate. My advise is to have the Nude2 repaired.
Hi DustyRider, thanks for your message. This sounds like a corrosion problem or a spring issue, please send me a pic of the shock and lockout to my email rbcbikes@gmail.com and I will try to offer a solution.
Hey Brazil, thanks for the message, what part of the shock are you wanting to inflate, the damper IFP or the air spring? If its the air spring you should use the sag o-ring as a guage. if its the damper the pressure should be 400 PSI.
RBC my shock had problems in the latch so I need to change the oil and I noticed that it has a valve, but it is inside, do I need a special pump to calibrate? I do not know anyone who does maintenance, so I'll venture to do
Hi William, the answer is yes and no! To confirm what shock it is please check the serial number on top of the shock head, this will confirm if its a M212 or a M210. The seal kits for the M212 are different to the M210 so please check to confirm which shock it really is before you purchase the kit. The confusion came in when Scott Sports requested that DT Swiss keep the M210 logo on the shocks for the Spark alloy range after DT Swiss made a running change to the M212 back in 2011/12
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This guy is an angel ! He saved my bike. Thanks
Very helpful. Managed to sort out a squeak that appeared after a rainy ride.Thanks a lot.
Glad it helped
Great video. I've only done FOX in the past so I wanted to see the difference.
I'm looking to print the driver using my 3d printer (I've done this for FOX driver, WP suspensions driver..), but I cannot find a 3d file nor I can find informations to recreate it on the computer.
Hi Maxime, thanks for your message and support of our channel. Sorry I don't have the 3d file for this, not sure you will find it anywhere.
Hello, thank you and congratulations for the video, very cool.
Tell me something: How can I reduce the travel of the M212 shock from 50mm to 40mm?
Brazil sales!
Hi Bike Na Vida, thanks for your message and support of our channel. From your message it sounds like you have a non-metric 109 x 51 rear shock and would like to change the stroke to work with a newer metric frame (190 x 40) Firstly I recommend getting the correct shock for the frame as there are some differences other than just the stroke and the air can is different as well. However if you are not able to get a new metric shock then you can reduce the stroke in the shock but you will need to de-gas the shock, clamp the damper shaft in soft jaws, remove the shock head and add a 10mm spaced to reduce the stroke. This is a specific spacer that we machine up to fit correctly and work with the damper main head. If you do not have the nitrogen or tool requirements for this this I would not recommend attempting the work. Rather send it to a shock service Centre for the correct work or purchase the new shock.
Hello, thank you very much for your attention and guidance, the shock is new, its original dimensions are 190mm x 50mm, and I need to leave it with 190mm x 40mm, I think I will send it to a specialized service in my locality.
Hey Rob,
very good and detailed service manual!
Thanks from Germany!
Thanks Martin, i will be posting a video each month, let me know if there is anything specific you want to see regards suspension.
Very informative and helpful tutorial. Keep it up! 👍
Thanks team, appreciate your kind words.
where can i get the seal part of dt swiss m212?
Video is good. It is a pity that not the whole process of service is shown. You did not disassemble the damper, and this part raises the most questions in these rear shock.
Thanks for your feedback, the damper service requires some specific tools and nitrogen for the IFP charge which is why I dont show the complete service. If you need any specific info please contact me on my website email address info@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za
@@RBC_tech Good day again. Tell me, how much oil is poured into the IPF camera? I wrote to you in the mail, there is no answer to this.
@@ischaser7690 Did you find good info on how to service the damper part it self? Mine sounds like it has air in the oil. You can hear and feel the bobble when you move it up and down with low air pressure. That can't de right, right??
Hi Rob! Thanks a lot for the very helpful video. In my case, the glide ring is broken - but unfortunately this one is not included in the sealkit I ordered (cwkxxxxx86202s), where all other parts perfectly fitted my nude 2 damper. Which sealing kit do I need to order? Thanks a lot for your reply! Lukas
Hi @rogge3923 thanks for your message and support of the channel. You need to order this glide ring separately and it needs to be pressed in under the air can seal. The DT Swiss code is CXDXXXXZ08344S
Hi @@RBC_tech, thanks a lot for the partnumber!
Hi, Rob.
Thanks for the video tutorial!
You can repair the damper in DT Swiss M212?
Hi thanks for your message, yes I am able to repair and rebuild all the DT Swiss dampers. I have send you an email for additional information. Thanks and have a great day.
Hi King, just another question, can i use the same procedure described on video to service a dt nude 2? to fix a lock out that doesn't lock anymore, should i work on the ifp camera? is there any chance to fix it without open the internal chamber of the piston? thanks a lot!
Hi Gerasio Masotti , you an certainly use this procedure to do a standard aircan service, however the damper service needs to be performed by an authorized service center due to the tools required and pressure in the shock
Hey Rob,
nice video! I'm from Brazil, and it's very hard to find these original dt swiss repair kits. Can you send me a photo of the white glide ring specifically?
Thanks from Brazil!!!!
Hi Carlos, thanks for your message, please send me an email to info@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za and I will send you the picture.
Hi robbie , DT swiss x313 rearshock carbon, its good ? I'm looking for MTB rearshock 165mm ,thank you😊
Hey, nice informative video 😊
How can i replace the rings without such a press? (or get such a press)😎
Hi Yes you are able to, please send me an email to robbie@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za and I will send the details. However i recommend that you get the press if you are going to perform multiple services.
Hello! Thank you! 👍
Welcome!
Hi Rob, I have old Dt Swiss SSD 210. It looks like it losing pressure after a week. I can not find new one and used too :( Your service procedure should be similar for the SSD 210? One more challenge will be finding where i can buy a set of gaskets...
By the way, do you know if I can find a replacement for SSD 210 which will fit to my bike?
Hi Beniaminkubiak9815, thanks for your message and support of our channel. So the SSD210 is quite different to the M212 and has a different seal kit and we do stock these still and have some parts still available. My suggestion is to inflate the shock to 250PSI and put it in a water bath for some time to see where the air is coming out. if its a small leak like your message suggests its possible that the shock needs to stay overnight in the water. You should then look for small bubbles coming from the shock or adhering to the shock if the leak is really small. So once the leak is detected you can decide how to fix this. My recommendation is a full service including the damper, and this needs to be done by a technical service center that has the correct tools for the job. Keep in mind that this could become more costly than just replacing the shock with a new unit. Please feel free to email me on rbcbikes@gmail.com for more details.
Hi. Can the gasket kit you fitted for the DT Swiss M212 and X313 also be fitted to the 2012 DT Swiss Scott Dune 2? Thank you
hello, thank you for the fully detailed video, just a question: is the same service for m210? i have a scott spark 50 from 2010 with the dt m210 and i should do the service. Please can you tell me if the service in the video is also for m210? Is it working in the same way? Thank you!
Hi Gerasio, thanks for your email and support of the channel. For the shock service please check the serial/model number on the top of the shock near the lockout, this should say either M210 or M212. DT swiss did a running change for Scott on the M210 mid year so its always good to check for the correct model number number. For the air kit the service should be the same, the M210 kits are divided into air can and damper kits which are different to the M212 so make sure that you check and confirm the model number before you buy the seal kit.
@@RBC_tech the number is V13 494
anyway is the service the same for both models? i mean if i open a m210 or a m212 just to put new grease, the inside will be the same? the service procedure will be the same also withouth changing seals?
please can you tell if i can open my m210 in the same way of a m212? thanks !
Hi Gerasio, yes no problem, follow the details on the video for safe opening.
Hello Rob, why you don´t change the small o-ring in the ABS system? Is there any Tutorial to do it? Regards from Argentina
Hi Rob,
Thanks for this video. Could you explain how adjust IFP camera on a DT SWISS R414, please?
Thanks in advance!
Hi Luis, please send me an email at robbie@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za and I will explain the details and what tools you need.
Great video! Wich kit do i need for a Shock Scott DT Nude 2 that comes in a 2013 Scott Spark 910? Thanks!!
Hi Ignacio, thanks for your message. For the air can service on this shock you will need the DT Swiss M212/X313 ABS air chamber kit - the DT code is CWXXXXX86032S - this is the same kit I used in the video
Hello, I have a DT SWISS M3 for the Scott genius 740 2013. I can't find seal kits for it, is it the same as for M212/M210 shocks? Thanks!
Hi Gregorie, yes its the same seal kit as the M212.
It's like there's a pressure in a negative chamber that doesn't let it open. Even if I empty out all the air, it closes, shrinks and doesn't stay open, loose. is locked closed
Hi Alexandre, thanks for your message, as i understand the shock is compressed down? Please send me a picture of the shock on my email rbcbikes@gmail.com and I will offer a solution.
Robbie, i have a little, minuscular play at the
spherical bearings, i have tighten with a torque wrench at manufacture's N'm 10. is this normal or i have to replace the spherical bearings then? thank you so much for responding to the people.
This happend when i lift up the bike in the seatpost, when i lift a little little bit, it feels like a minuscular play, and when i lock the suspension, it is not the another bearings of the basculant
Hi William, the Spherical bearings, ball joint bearings need replacement, they do wear out and then there will be play on the shock. These can be purchased individually and replaced as needed.
Thank you robble, so, is normal to have minimun, not noticiable. Play on the spherical ?
Hey , I have a dt swiss M210, how much pressure should I put in the negative camera, the one that has a triangle plug, thanks!
Hi, this requires nitrogen and you need to set the floating piston to the correct depth. This is a dangerous job if you are not trained or have the right tools. I would not try this if you don't know the procedures. The nitrogen pressure is 400psi .
Ate quantos psi aguenta?
Hy. I have a shock DT x313. There was no air pressure. I calibrated it and after trying to do the SAG, it went down and lost course. Now even calibrating it with 250/260lbs, it doesn't open fully. stay with 25% of the course inside. What can it be?
Hi Alexandra, please send me the details with pictures to rbcbikes@gmail.com
Hello, I'm from Guatemala, very good video and practice, I do not know if you could help me I have an M3 of 2013 and I can not find the Seal kit, in any online store you could help me get them
Hi Andhy, yes I can assist you with the air can kit. Please send me an email to rbcbikes@gmail.com and I will confirm the details.
Hi I break my glad ring (the ring white, he block the ring on the top on shock) My model it's m212. Where I find this part ?
Do you have a model in use to press the seal on shock ?
I'm in France
Thank you for your help
Hi Sebastian, thanks for your message, sorry to hear you have broken the glide ring. The DT agents in France are able to assist you, you can contact them on +33 4 92 60 90 58. The address is DT SWISS FRANCE PARC Route de Gourdon Parc d'activite de la Sarrée 06620, Route de Gourdon, Le Bar-sur-Loup, France.
Thanks you so much. Have a good day 😊
Estou com um problema, o parafuso que trava o cabo espanou, eu gostaria de trocar a roldanas onde prende o cabo, podem me ajudar ?
Sim, sem problemas, temos em estoque. Por favor, envie-me um e-mail para rbcbikes@gmail.com com uma foto da polia.
hello, how to calibrate the damper of the M3 dtswiss, as it has the valve but it has no connection to my emptied and now I can not regulate the indentation and is giving final course
Morning, there is a valve in the lower damper unit which separates the nitrogen charge from the damper oil. Special tools and skills are required to open and service this part of the shock. The IFP is charged to 400 psi and this is a dangerous pressure if you don't work correctly and in the proper manner with the right tools. I recommend that you take the shock to your closest DT Swiss service center for assistance. Where are you located and I will advise the closest service center to you.
Hi Rob.I have a DT Swiss Scott nude 2 shock from a 2012 Scott spark 30 26er.I cant find any parts or where to buy a new or used one.Do you know what other shock and hardware is compatible with this bike and if so provide a link.Its my first bike and its been sitting for 2 years because i have not been able to find the shock.
Hi Javilos999, thanks for your message, your bike was the first of the new Scott linkage design and has a 190 x 50 rear shock. the previous (2011) year had a 165/38 . If you cant fix your DT which is a 190 x 50 then a shock of the same length and stroke from RockShox or Fox will work. However the remote lever will not be compatible with either and there is a possibility that the shock tune is not correct for the Scott's leverage rate. My advise is to have the Nude2 repaired.
Hi Rob
Can you inform me where to buy the tools you use to service the damper???
Hi Jesper, you can purchase from us, no problem. Please email me with the requirements.
@@RBC_tech Hi again where do I find your email :)?
@@jesper87dk info@robbiesbicycleconcept.co.za
Hello I'm. Having a problem. On my nude 2 lock got stuck.. Can you do a video tutorial how to fix. It.. Reay appreciate it. More power
Hi DustyRider, thanks for your message. This sounds like a corrosion problem or a spring issue, please send me a pic of the shock and lockout to my email rbcbikes@gmail.com and I will try to offer a solution.
@@RBC_tech a big thanks to you and your team. 😊Keepsafe and godbless
Hey Rob! Do you know the part number for the seal drivers?
Hi destChaos, the code for the Dual wiper mounting tool from DT is CWTXXXXX12687S
Hello, I am from Brazil, I would like to know how many pounds I put in the shock dtswiss M3 in the calibration?
Hey Brazil, thanks for the message, what part of the shock are you wanting to inflate, the damper IFP or the air spring? If its the air spring you should use the sag o-ring as a guage. if its the damper the pressure should be 400 PSI.
RBC my shock had problems in the latch so I need to change the oil and I noticed that it has a valve, but it is inside, do I need a special pump to calibrate? I do not know anyone who does maintenance, so I'll venture to do
Otw...hunting starterkit/kitset.... !
is DT SWISS M210 usses the same seal kit of M212?
Hi William, the answer is yes and no! To confirm what shock it is please check the serial number on top of the shock head, this will confirm if its a M212 or a M210. The seal kits for the M212 are different to the M210 so please check to confirm which shock it really is before you purchase the kit. The confusion came in when Scott Sports requested that DT Swiss keep the M210 logo on the shocks for the Spark alloy range after DT Swiss made a running change to the M212 back in 2011/12
@@RBC_tech Thank you for awnser, So, my bike is a scott spark 40 2012, im going to check that information, but i think it says m212 on the top of it
It says M212 On the top of it, so it will work?
@@SVRMECHANIC Hi William, yes, the M212 seal kit will work for this shock.
Thank you robbie, so is secure to follow this procedure to do it to my shock?
Hi , i need a website to buy dt swiss m210 rear shock kit please , thank you
Hi Mohammed please send me an email regarding your requirements to rbcbikes@gmail.com
@@RBC_tech , sent
Vidéo de merde : le gars travaille à la vitesse du mécano qui refait 23 amortisseurs dans la journée ! , sans montrer un seul outil ni gros plan ! ( on ne voit même pas à quel endroit il met sa clef ... Et pire que tout , il parle en turc !!