Feed your garden safely with Compost Everything: amzn.to/3fUNt1w Learn how to recognize and repair Grazon-contaminated gardens: www.thesurvivalgardener.com/dealing-with-grazon-contamination/ Thank you for watching.
I bought a bag of activated charcoal after watching one of your earlier videos but I have these burning questions- should I powder it and put it in swamp water or leave it in chunks? Also, will the charcoal rob the soil of nutrients once good stuff from the swamp water is utilized by plants?
We opened up the pasture gate to let our animals graze our yard for the past few months. I've been looking at the cow patties in my gravel driveway thinking how convenient it will be to harvest the manure now. Yesterday, I was wondering how to make sure it was safe for the garden, because they've been eating hay from a local Feed n Seed store. Then today, this video came out. Excellent timing! Now, i guess I'm off to play in the cow poop!
I reached out to Black Kow and received this reply: Hi Penny, There are more concerns today about herbicides sprayed on pastures getting in Black Kow and then damaging plants. The herbicides creating most concern are (chloryralid or aminopyralids). These herbicides were mainly used on lawns on the west coast. So the residues have usually been found in yard waste composts. The residue from the herbicide will dissipate if it is aerobically composted over a period of time. We compost our products for 10 to 12 weeks. Then the compost is cured for an additional 6 to 8 months. We also routinely perform growth tests and lab tests to check for contaminants. We have never found herbicide residue in our products. The only way to be 100% sure would be for the consumer to do a grow test with some pea or bean seeds before using the product in their soil. Mix BK 50: 50 with clean sand. Plant 3 to 4 seeds, water Plant 3 to 4 seeds in a sterile, peat based potting soil. If seeds germinate in both mixes, then the compost is fine. Many factors can contribute to damaged plant growth such as high winds, neighbor spray contamination, other products used. You can check with local county extension office for more accurate information.
@@davidthegood Grazon is banned in california has been since day 1 cause this state is crazy nuts about protecting people and bans anything even if its just a theory of it being dangerous.
@@davidthegoodI’m in Pensacola. I’m convinced ECUA’s compost poisoned my soil. It’s made with biosolids and yard waste. Almost all of my plants had severe symptoms of Grazon contamination. Last year’s 3’ long zucchino rampacante were the size of bananas this year.
my belated condolences, I lost my garden twice to overspray from the county spraying roundup and it is enraging beyond reason. on a lighter note our local highbrow equestrians started demanding herbicide, and pesticide, free hay and feed. so though prices are higher for straw and hay, the manure from the locals is safer I like to incorporate alfalfa when I can.
This year was the best garden I've had in decades. If anyone is having a rough year they either live in the wrong place or they're doing something very wrong.
My family think I go a little overboard when I test each of my purchased compost bags with pea shoots before using them on my garden. I figured peas grow fast, and as grocery store purchases, a few peas would be no loss in the worst case scenario. And really, in zone 9B, I know in less than 10 days if the adult leaves and the top stems look off. (BTW, I did read 'Compost Everything' but ever since black soldier fly larvae moved into my bokashi compost 'soil factory' and I am too soft to dust them with diatomaceous earth, I have little compost to show for all the kitchen scraps and garden waste they consume. At least they are helping reduce my contribution to our landfills.) So thank you. Now I can tell my doubters that "David the Good does this test!" Even though I do cringe every time you grab those cow patties with your bare hands. lol. Thanks for all the advice and laughs.
A note also to anyone buying bagged compost or green waste compost. That too can be affected by aminopyralid. Save yourself any heartache by doing this simple test before using it. Many thanks to David The Good for all the great work.
I appreciate your taking artistic liberties to flavor your videos. Thank you for the information too. I've been hesitant to buy Black Cow manure from the nursery, but now that I know how to test it, I can stop begging people for poop now.
I bought Black Cow last few years before I discovered David's channel and learned about Grazon. I think it has stunted the growth of practically everything I've used it with. I mixed compost, peat moss, vermiculite, and Black Cow and blended them together for my potted plants. While they haven't displayed the fractal decay shown in these examples, my persimmon starts have curled leaves and the blackberry starts have not grown as expected. Could be other factors too, but I wouldn't buy manure now from anywhere.
@@davidthegood I'm at a full stop on the Black Cow. Thanks. I'm cooking up a container of swamp water and wanted to add either powdered or chunky activated charcoal to it - which is better? Should I be concerned about the charcoal robbing plants of nutrients later on?
@@LittleBitOfSunshine4u Hi April, David has a good video on bio-char, and iirc there is a spot in there when he talks about adding swamp water to the mix to keep the nutrient robbery from occurring. HTH ruclips.net/video/R8P-m6jFFok/видео.html
Thank you, David! It happened to us--our garden ruined by a load of "all natural garden topsoil" that twisted, stunted, and killed half our crops. Worse, I had added some around fruiting bushes--they got twisted stunted leaves too. Wish I had done a test first... And as an artist and card-carrying goofball-- LOVED that artsy film moment! This is our favorite youtube channel!!!!❤
Each and every time I view your channel, I'm blessed! I am so grateful to God for using you to share the knowledge to all who want to receive. To God be the ultimate Glory. Thank you
Hi David the good seed! I pray all is well, happy and healthy! Someone reached out to me, [ imposing from your channel] regarding some type of giveaway. There's so.... Many hackers in the world today now more than ever. And just a look out and or check and secure your business account. God's blessings
Good to know!!!! I am mowing our pasture one last time before fall and saving as much grass as possible to put in the compost piles/make "tea" -- we do not spray our pastures, do not fertilize. Totally organic.
Bought a bag of composted manure from my local Ace hardware and a bag of black beans from walmart. Here we go, adding manure to some potting soil and planting 4 beans yo see if this is ok to use. (Soaked them overnight also) bag is advertised as intended for both flowers and vegetable plants. We’ll see.
Started a double-bucket compost system a while back. Slightly larger bucket with holes drilled in the bottom resting on a slightly smaller bucket, and a black plastic garbage bag over the top. Food scraps go in the top, and I've currently got an army of meal worms making food scrap piles shrink over night :D Bottom bucket collects any liquids, which I'm then needing to store in large plastic containers. Also been making ash fertilizer, and soaking charcoal in the compost tea, just put some at the bottom of potting bags for transplanting pumpkins and butternut (need to move, so trying to pull them out of the ground and into the bags), hopefully it works well :) Thank you for the inspiration :) God bless!
Thank you David! I knew the beans would test it, but the visual was super helpful and the thought of multiple feeding areas never occurred to me. Thanks!
I had the worst gardening year in 2022, I got soil from a neighbors compost pile to top off my garden beds and nothing grew like it should have. Now I'm suspicious this might be why. At the end of the season last year I added clean soil from a place I originally went to a few years ago so I'm hoping this helps. I still have a few yards of soil left that I'll be using for my starts so hopefully this soil will be better. Great information!
You could also shovel into a 30 gallon trashcan 1/3 the manure and top off with water. Let steep in the sun with the lid on for a week. Grab a watering can and pour that on some tender weeds in your yard during the day, wetting all the leaves. Check out the weeds for curling and twisting.
I just planted a bunch of bean seeds from a supermarket bean soup bag in an area that I used black cow brand manure. If we don’t get a frost I should be able to tell if the solid is contaminated I know the tomatoes I planted the last two years have the ugliest curled up leaves but the hot pepper plants and cucumbers in the same bed grew just fine. How ever I could not get green beans to grow to save my life. Summer squash grew without a problem.
Cool, thank you! I thought beans might clean it up, so I planted some beans in questionable soil (that I had used straw and or bagged manure in), so now I've got unintentional testing going on. Thank you sir.
My friend just gifted me not one but TWO Good guides for my birthday 🥳 I cracked open the propagation guide last night and am already plotting my first project plant
Thanks for this Now I am wondering about the hay I have as mulch this winter. Let me see if an assay works for hay left out a bit in the weather and under some potting soil with a tomato sucker.
The weird issue I was having was the plants would look fine for a bit then get the funky leaves then it appeared to recover then reoccured over and over the entire season like that.
Thanks for the suggestion. I picked up some horse manure from a horse riding stable winter 2021 and was reluctant to use it in my garden after reading about Grazon. I have not heard of anyone having problems in NE NC but I don't want to be the first. I am testing it using your method and the beans have just popped up from the soil. Thanks for the good advice.
This was happening to my whole garden three years ago. I'm in a new house now... my forever home... I now only buy bagged and tested compost or make my own. It ruined that soil and I had no idea what it was!
Thanks, David! My wife just asked me while I watched this video : is this guys knows how much time You spend to watch him? He's like a family member now!
Hey Sir, I love your content, quick question, can you use this test to see if straw, haw or wasted animal feed-stuffs contain aminopyralid? I work at a feed store and get hay and feed sweepings off the ground as I need or want them, and so would it work for straw, since it is my preferred mulch? Thank you for your great content and help, will certainly be trying the landrace method with my chickens and garden plants. Have a blessed day, Reguards, Luke from Arizona.
Thank you , so much for this video! I have a bed that over the summer has been planted out 5 different times with different varieties of seeds, not one single thing has grown there after receiving a tractor scoop loaded with composted horse manure.. I knew there must be some type of poison in it. I have some left over tomato transplants that don’t have a home… Guess I’ll try them and see what happens. Do you have a remediation treatment for herbicide poisoning? Thank you, Ronda Merry Noise Farm
Here is another Grazon horror story for you... Due to your videos I was aware and have been diligent and cautious about using any materials in my garden that may have been contaminated. Even if I was sure I still tested whatever I was going to use by growing beans or peas with the product beforehand just to verify. Despite my diligence I have still been hit with Grazon contamination. How, you ask? Deer! But it took me almost a year of playing the role of a detective very reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes minus the the pipe and hat. Just like Holmes it started with deduction. This is how I arrived and feel confident at my conclusion. I retested all products that I have kept not only the bags but a small amount of product in each for this purpose and finding nothing. So the sleuthing began. One thing that stumped me for a long, long time was that it wasn't my entire garden or everything growing it was spotty. To give a little context I live on a property that is nearly 9 acres in the middle of nowhere, Utah. Part of the property is a mini swamp marsh (which is strange for my high desert area) that was neglected for years, which has copious amounts of Russian olives so a large herd lives there year round, with young stags trying to encroach on the doe regularly, so battles ensue right outside my windows and sliding glass door multiple times a year. I have some deterants that prevent them from eating much of my garden which is great, yet that obviously wasn't the issue. Another factor that helps the massive herd is an old also neglected apple orchard on another part of the property and an Alfalfa/forage grass field across the street (30ft from the orchard) So these are some well fed, happy deer of many generations. Back to my discovery. After walking around my property my 4 year old kept complaining about all the deer droppings since you'd be hard pressed to find a 4 sq.
Hello David from central Florida!! I have a question. I'm in the midst of fixing about a half acre of my land. We had cows and had no idea about grazon. I let the area over grow and now I'm getting ready to knock it down and actively work the soil and I'm wondering if burning the grasses/organic matter will actually effect the contaminate or if I should not put the ash back into the ground.
Great information as always. 1 QUESTION: Do you know how long this product, Grazon, has been in the compost? I got 15 bags 2 years ago from Wm, still sitting 🙈. Yes, I know I need to move it b4 the bags fall apart, lol Thanks for your human interest and love of all things gardening and beyond👍😊😊
This is maddening, what if I buy bagged product? test every bag? The soil distributors that get municipal green waste , who knows what people spray on their plants! Thanks so much !
I was planning on cleaning out the chicken coop (straw and pine shavings as bedding) and adding it to the compost pile. Now I'm not sure if it is worth the hassle....
This has been helpful, thanks. I'm going to have to start making my own seed starting mix, and the compost that I use just might have to be my own as well. Lately I've been having trouble with potting soils and seed starting mixes that are tainted, although not sure with what. I've heard from my master gardener courses that they have sent bagged soils to labs and found the sodium content to be way too high. Last year I started my giant pumpkin seeds, 8 for 8 came up. Then I tried a second batch of backups using a new bag. Zero for 7 on that second bag! I can take peat pellet started tomatoes, pot them up in bagged potting soil and they all get sick and die. Some bags, open them up and it smells like raw manure. Sigh.
I just viewed a post you made about Grazon, and one of the photos is much like what I see in some of my pumpkin seedlings! Stunted small leaves that curl up. I think when I finally do find a good plant, I just got lucky with the portion of "soil" that it got.
Thank you, for all you do. I have bought several of your books and always enjoy your demonstrations. In a few months, we'll be moving to our house in Ft Myers. I had been planning on starting with a few Chip Drops, but now I'm not so sure. I understand that we now need to watch manure, compost, and hay, but do we need to also be wary of wood chips?
this is amazing timing on this video. my first cup of coffee this morning and your new video blows my mind. yesterday evening I loaded my truck with crates to go to a neighbor's field and collect Cow Patties because in zone 8B we haven't had rain in a month either perfect timing for Gathering patties. I always take an extra little bucket of compost with me because I find so many worms under the patties. so do you think the worms are contaminated too??? I don't see how they can't be. seems like our whole system is contaminated. I'm still going to collect my patties this morning but I'm going to secure them in an area where I can test them your way. I've been wanting to ask you if you grow coyote squash?? ours are just starting to come in good and I would love to share some with you for seedling.
I'm so sorry I totally misspelled the name of Chayote. it is a wonderful late season perennial Vine that grows the most extraordinary vegetables or fruit I can't decide.
. you have to wait until the fruit is ripe and it starts putting out a sprout on the bottom end. that's how we plant ours. last year we had about 150 big beautiful squash. this year not so good but it's worth the effort in the work and we built a large arch for them to grow on which gave us a beautiful shaded place to sit take a break in the shade
David, once contaminated your soil is doomed for life? We compost straw from the chicken coop and I'm now uncertain that this is a good idea, may switch to pine shavings. Thanks for the info!
Difference between straw and hay. Straw from small grains probably less likely to be sprayed with persistent GRAZON. However, a 'fair' amount of small grains are lightly sprayed with glyphosate (RoundUp) if field ripened unevenly (too much moisture). The Roundup dessicates the plants so combine doesn't get choked down by a patch of still pretty green stems. It's not a widespread tactic but it is approved and is used.
@@davidthegood our tomato plants looked just like your photos this year, beans and zucchini did as well, peppers and okra did well and are still producing... not sure what is going on.
This spring I took some old chicken manure and shavings from my coop clean out and soaked it in water for a few weeks. Took a couple handfuls off the dry material after water had evaporated and mixed into several gallons of water and used a cup of that to a couple gallons of water to water my hybrid cherry tomato and all the slips I removed from the post of the stem that I planted deep. All the starts that had looked so good up till then got ask twisted and skinny weird Marie lead growth and then they all died within a month. The larger parent plant did terrible with the narrow growth for a month and then seemed to recover during the summer. Now that temps are cooling off, it is putting on normal growth and a zillion tomatoes. Did I just burn them with too much, or is it from spray on the plants of commercial grains I use as chicken feed? I give them black oil sunflower seed, whole oats and Milo, usually soaked or sprouted or even fodder stage or fermented. Thank you for all your info. Just bought Grow or Die.
Thanks for the video. I'm new to this channel, and I didn't know if your info was trustworthy, so I looked up Grazon before I watched the video. No sense in getting all upset over something that doesn't actually exist, right? But what I read sounded like the old, cheesy, 1950's horror movies I love to watch. Thank you for letting us know about this unfortunately real... I don't even know what to call it. BTW, I also like art films.
LOL had a quick thought, could just see one of the kids walking back and forth behind you while you are talking with the growing Plant joke, where everytime they walk past the plant is bigger. silly I know, but hey, its what I was thinking! ;)
David, I up-potted some roses and hydrangeas along with some cow manure a friend gave me, about a week and a half ago. I now am wondering if his cows had eaten Grazon...everything including the up-potted plants and veggies in my garden all got some and now are in a stage of yellowing leaves and the only plants in my veggie garden that are doing well, are the ones I planted before he gave me the manure! I'm in a parsonage temporarily as we find land and build a homestead. So I'm not too concerned about the garden, but my plants and roses, I care deeply about, as I've been growing them specifically to plant at our new house. Do you think if I get them out of the manure mixture and start over with good soil only, that they might survive? Thank you for your time on this subject. I'm a little desperate!! 😢
I would pull them out right away, repot in fresh soil, and hope for the best. Pray over them, too. Usually the damage from Grazon shows up as twisting new growth.
I got a load of compost from a nursery, they said they tested and there was nothing bad in it but every year when I plant peas and beans they keel over after the first few leaves. The tomatoes have that leaf curling problem. It has been 3 years now. I have put charcoal and left the plants to try to absorb the poison but no luck so far. Is there a way to neutralize that soil? It was very expensive and I hate t dig it all out and start over.
very interesting, at some point this stuff gets into ( or is in ) the food chain, especially ruminants that have ingested this crap. I wonder what it does to humans . Thanks for the video
Omg i found out just a week ago that they use grazone for cattle feed. I already transplanted all my seedlings using steer manure. They seem to grow. Praying it has no herbicides
Mr Good, please tell me the name of the soil tester company you have used. I've been looking through your videos and posts, but haven't had any luck. thank you so much.
I have a roselle that I think was grown in previously grazon tainted soil (2 years ago). The plant looks fine, grew very large and produced pods. Do you think it's safe?
Hmmm.....I planted a Chayote, and while it has 2 vines that look healthy, another dried up and another has gnarly leaves, could it be possible the soil I bought in La Comer be contaminated with Grazon? Thanks for sharing David,and wishing ya a great rest of the week.
Thank goodness I only had a bag garden , i have discarded all that soil. This is what happened to my plants . I'm composting my scraps and chicken manure ..i did not put any bought manure in my garden beds thankfully
Hi David, how do you find out about which parts of the plants are edible or not?? I’ve seen a few gardening videos in the UK, where I live, but they seem to assume that we already know.
Feed your garden safely with Compost Everything: amzn.to/3fUNt1w
Learn how to recognize and repair Grazon-contaminated gardens: www.thesurvivalgardener.com/dealing-with-grazon-contamination/
Thank you for watching.
I bought a bag of activated charcoal after watching one of your earlier videos but I have these burning questions- should I powder it and put it in swamp water or leave it in chunks? Also, will the charcoal rob the soil of nutrients once good stuff from the swamp water is utilized by plants?
What an evil chemical!
You’re doing God’s work sir. Much appreciated!
He's also channeling the Lord's tunes 👍
David the God
We opened up the pasture gate to let our animals graze our yard for the past few months. I've been looking at the cow patties in my gravel driveway thinking how convenient it will be to harvest the manure now. Yesterday, I was wondering how to make sure it was safe for the garden, because they've been eating hay from a local Feed n Seed store. Then today, this video came out. Excellent timing! Now, i guess I'm off to play in the cow poop!
Good luck.
@@itsme2572 turns out the cow poop was safe. My husband mixed up a huge amount of potting soil with it, and our garden is looking better than ever!
That art film bit was GOLD, thank you sir
I reached out to Black Kow and received this reply:
Hi Penny,
There are more concerns today about herbicides sprayed on pastures getting in Black Kow and then damaging plants. The herbicides creating most concern are (chloryralid or aminopyralids). These herbicides were mainly used on lawns on the west coast. So the residues have usually been found in yard waste composts. The residue from the herbicide will dissipate if it is aerobically composted over a period of time. We compost our products for 10 to 12 weeks. Then the compost is cured for an additional 6 to 8 months.
We also routinely perform growth tests and lab tests to check for contaminants. We have never found herbicide residue in our products.
The only way to be 100% sure would be for the consumer to do a grow test with some pea or bean seeds before using the product in their soil.
Mix BK 50: 50 with clean sand. Plant 3 to 4 seeds, water
Plant 3 to 4 seeds in a sterile, peat based potting soil.
If seeds germinate in both mixes, then the compost is fine.
Many factors can contribute to damaged plant growth such as high winds, neighbor spray contamination, other products used.
You can check with local county extension office for more accurate information.
Yeah, that's a dodge. I have seen the same response. Lawns on the West Coast are not the main problem.
@@davidthegood Grazon is banned in california has been since day 1 cause this state is crazy nuts about protecting people and bans anything even if its just a theory of it being dangerous.
@@davidthegoodI’m in Pensacola. I’m convinced ECUA’s compost poisoned my soil. It’s made with biosolids and yard waste. Almost all of my plants had severe symptoms of Grazon contamination. Last year’s 3’ long zucchino rampacante were the size of bananas this year.
my belated condolences, I lost my garden twice to overspray from the county spraying roundup and it is enraging beyond reason.
on a lighter note
our local highbrow equestrians started demanding herbicide, and pesticide, free hay and feed.
so though prices are higher for straw and hay, the manure from the locals is safer
I like to incorporate alfalfa when I can.
That's a spot-on representation of Grazon in interpretive dance.
Keep the artsy video photography coming… I love it! 👍
Grazon is the topic of the hour Sir. As we mourn this past miserable season of seedling/crop failure…😢
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Extra points for the portrait of Madame X.
This year was the best garden I've had in decades. If anyone is having a rough year they either live in the wrong place or they're doing something very wrong.
@@brianmorris364 I wish you continued success and hope that “karma” is not a real thing.
@@carolschedler3832 I think karma is exactly why I succeeded. I've earned it by due diligence.
My family think I go a little overboard when I test each of my purchased compost bags with pea shoots before using them on my garden. I figured peas grow fast, and as grocery store purchases, a few peas would be no loss in the worst case scenario. And really, in zone 9B, I know in less than 10 days if the adult leaves and the top stems look off. (BTW, I did read 'Compost Everything' but ever since black soldier fly larvae moved into my bokashi compost 'soil factory' and I am too soft to dust them with diatomaceous earth, I have little compost to show for all the kitchen scraps and garden waste they consume. At least they are helping reduce my contribution to our landfills.)
So thank you. Now I can tell my doubters that "David the Good does this test!" Even though I do cringe every time you grab those cow patties with your bare hands. lol. Thanks for all the advice and laughs.
A note also to anyone buying bagged compost or green waste compost. That too can be affected by aminopyralid.
Save yourself any heartache by doing this simple test before using it.
Many thanks to David The Good for all the great work.
Yes, good warning Gerry.
I appreciate your taking artistic liberties to flavor your videos. Thank you for the information too. I've been hesitant to buy Black Cow manure from the nursery, but now that I know how to test it, I can stop begging people for poop now.
I wouldn't buy it.
I bought Black Cow last few years before I discovered David's channel and learned about Grazon. I think it has stunted the growth of practically everything I've used it with. I mixed compost, peat moss, vermiculite, and Black Cow and blended them together for my potted plants. While they haven't displayed the fractal decay shown in these examples, my persimmon starts have curled leaves and the blackberry starts have not grown as expected. Could be other factors too, but I wouldn't buy manure now from anywhere.
@@davidthegood I'm at a full stop on the Black Cow. Thanks. I'm cooking up a container of swamp water and wanted to add either powdered or chunky activated charcoal to it - which is better? Should I be concerned about the charcoal robbing plants of nutrients later on?
@@LittleBitOfSunshine4u Hi April, David has a good video on bio-char, and iirc there is a spot in there when he talks about adding swamp water to the mix to keep the nutrient robbery from occurring. HTH
ruclips.net/video/R8P-m6jFFok/видео.html
@@aiserock Many thanks! I'll check it out.
Thank you, David! It happened to us--our garden ruined by a load of "all natural garden topsoil" that twisted, stunted, and killed half our crops. Worse, I had added some around fruiting bushes--they got twisted stunted leaves too. Wish I had done a test first...
And as an artist and card-carrying goofball-- LOVED that artsy film moment! This is our favorite youtube channel!!!!❤
I'm so sorry - what a mess. The same happened to some friends of mine in Gainesville.
Each and every time I view your channel, I'm blessed! I am so grateful to God for using you to share the knowledge to all who want to receive.
To God be the ultimate Glory. Thank you
Hi David the good seed!
I pray all is well, happy and healthy!
Someone reached out to me, [ imposing from your channel] regarding some type of giveaway.
There's so....
Many hackers in the world today now more than ever. And just a look out and or check and secure your business account.
God's blessings
Great advice for testing manure. I'll be putting this into practice. Thank you.
Good to know!!!! I am mowing our pasture one last time before fall and saving as much grass as possible to put in the compost piles/make "tea" -- we do not spray our pastures, do not fertilize. Totally organic.
Bought a bag of composted manure from my local Ace hardware and a bag of black beans from walmart. Here we go, adding manure to some potting soil and planting 4 beans yo see if this is ok to use. (Soaked them overnight also) bag is advertised as intended for both flowers and vegetable plants. We’ll see.
Started a double-bucket compost system a while back. Slightly larger bucket with holes drilled in the bottom resting on a slightly smaller bucket, and a black plastic garbage bag over the top. Food scraps go in the top, and I've currently got an army of meal worms making food scrap piles shrink over night :D Bottom bucket collects any liquids, which I'm then needing to store in large plastic containers.
Also been making ash fertilizer, and soaking charcoal in the compost tea, just put some at the bottom of potting bags for transplanting pumpkins and butternut (need to move, so trying to pull them out of the ground and into the bags), hopefully it works well :)
Thank you for the inspiration :)
God bless!
What do you do if you have already used contaminated soil?
This is what I do: www.thesurvivalgardener.com/dealing-with-grazon-contamination/
Basic 10 10 10 will fix the soil but you won't have "organic".
@@davidthegood thank you, I’ll definitely try this
Thank you David! I knew the beans would test it, but the visual was super helpful and the thought of multiple feeding areas never occurred to me. Thanks!
I had the worst gardening year in 2022, I got soil from a neighbors compost pile to top off my garden beds and nothing grew like it should have. Now I'm suspicious this might be why. At the end of the season last year I added clean soil from a place I originally went to a few years ago so I'm hoping this helps. I still have a few yards of soil left that I'll be using for my starts so hopefully this soil will be better. Great information!
You could also shovel into a 30 gallon trashcan 1/3 the manure and top off with water. Let steep in the sun with the lid on for a week.
Grab a watering can and pour that on some tender weeds in your yard during the day, wetting all the leaves.
Check out the weeds for curling and twisting.
I enjoy your art films too. Thanks for the information on how to test for grazon.
Thank you very much! 🌱
I just planted a bunch of bean seeds from a supermarket bean soup bag in an area that I used black cow brand manure. If we don’t get a frost I should be able to tell if the solid is contaminated I know the tomatoes I planted the last two years have the ugliest curled up leaves but the hot pepper plants and cucumbers in the same bed grew just fine. How ever I could not get green beans to grow to save my life. Summer squash grew without a problem.
Cool, thank you! I thought beans might clean it up, so I planted some beans in questionable soil (that I had used straw and or bagged manure in), so now I've got unintentional testing going on. Thank you sir.
You just put my mind at ease. Thank you so much, God bless you and yours.
I ended up losing the majority of my garden to this toxin. Thank you!!
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I'm very sorry.
Thanks for taking care of us David.
I don't want anyone else's gardens to get ruined like mine did some years back. It's really painful.
Thank you for this. I need to test my cow’s manure before I build a compost pile
Thanks David. I heard about Grazon today for the first time. I will be cautious going forward.
My friend just gifted me not one but TWO Good guides for my birthday 🥳 I cracked open the propagation guide last night and am already plotting my first project plant
Thank you - good friend!
Thank you thank you! Short, sweet, and VERY helpful.
Thanks for this Now I am wondering about the hay I have as mulch this winter. Let me see if an assay works for hay left out a bit in the weather and under some potting soil with a tomato sucker.
I had a similar grazon issue but from the municipal compost, I filled 2x 4'x24', 18" deep beds with it.
The weird issue I was having was the plants would look fine for a bit then get the funky leaves then it appeared to recover then reoccured over and over the entire season like that.
Thanks for the suggestion. I picked up some horse manure from a horse riding stable winter 2021 and was reluctant to use it in my garden after reading about Grazon. I have not heard of anyone having problems in NE NC but I don't want to be the first. I am testing it using your method and the beans have just popped up from the soil. Thanks for the good advice.
Thank you very much for this video very practical and very needed appreciate you your family and your contact cheers Central Florida
Oh thank you. Was gonna use summer neighbors manure. This is a good test👍🌞🐰 Art. 👍👍👍😆
Good luck.
This was happening to my whole garden three years ago. I'm in a new house now... my forever home... I now only buy bagged and tested compost or make my own. It ruined that soil and I had no idea what it was!
Thanks, David! My wife just asked me while I watched this video : is this guys knows how much time You spend to watch him? He's like a family member now!
Thanks for adopting me.
awesome video. I just gathered a bag of manure on friday and was hoping you would make a video about this subject!
How do you decontaminate your soil?
I have some info at the blog
What breed of ducks are you raising? Muscovies?
Yes.
We love all your videos, David. My 13 year old daughter has read all your books and can't wait to hear your talks at the event this weekend!
Thank you! I look forward to meeting her. I am impressed!
has anyone tested the black cow compost bought from lows in texas?
Multiple people have written me who had problems with it.
I have never had a problem with it. Maybe because I let it sit in the bags for several months? Idk.
I am doing the test. 50/50 black kow and sand, long bean seeds
Thank you for the info I will spread it around
Hey Sir, I love your content, quick question, can you use this test to see if straw, haw or wasted animal feed-stuffs contain aminopyralid? I work at a feed store and get hay and feed sweepings off the ground as I need or want them, and so would it work for straw, since it is my preferred mulch?
Thank you for your great content and help, will certainly be trying the landrace method with my chickens and garden plants.
Have a blessed day, Reguards, Luke from Arizona.
I love all of your ingenious simple solutions
But I do feel stupid that I didn’t think of them first
I stand on the shoulders of giants.
Nice "stacking" visual with that brick wall behind you!
Thank you , so much for this video! I have a bed that over the summer has been planted out 5 different times with different varieties of seeds, not one single thing has grown there after receiving a tractor scoop loaded with composted horse manure.. I knew there must be some type of poison in it. I have some left over tomato transplants that don’t have a home… Guess I’ll try them and see what happens. Do you have a remediation treatment for herbicide poisoning?
Thank you,
Ronda
Merry Noise Farm
This could also be too
Much salt in the horse manure
My thoughts: www.thesurvivalgardener.com/rescue-garden-destroyed-grazon-contamination/
Here is another Grazon horror story for you... Due to your videos I was aware and have been diligent and cautious about using any materials in my garden that may have been contaminated. Even if I was sure I still tested whatever I was going to use by growing beans or peas with the product beforehand just to verify. Despite my diligence I have still been hit with Grazon contamination. How, you ask? Deer! But it took me almost a year of playing the role of a detective very reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes minus the the pipe and hat. Just like Holmes it started with deduction. This is how I arrived and feel confident at my conclusion. I retested all products that I have kept not only the bags but a small amount of product in each for this purpose and finding nothing. So the sleuthing began.
One thing that stumped me for a long, long time was that it wasn't my entire garden or everything growing it was spotty. To give a little context I live on a property that is nearly 9 acres in the middle of nowhere, Utah. Part of the property is a mini swamp marsh (which is strange for my high desert area) that was neglected for years, which has copious amounts of Russian olives so a large herd lives there year round, with young stags trying to encroach on the doe regularly, so battles ensue right outside my windows and sliding glass door multiple times a year. I have some deterants that prevent them from eating much of my garden which is great, yet that obviously wasn't the issue. Another factor that helps the massive herd is an old also neglected apple orchard on another part of the property and an Alfalfa/forage grass field across the street (30ft from the orchard) So these are some well fed, happy deer of many generations.
Back to my discovery. After walking around my property my 4 year old kept complaining about all the deer droppings since you'd be hard pressed to find a 4 sq.
Thanks Buddy!
Makes sense to me!
Hello David from central Florida!! I have a question. I'm in the midst of fixing about a half acre of my land. We had cows and had no idea about grazon. I let the area over grow and now I'm getting ready to knock it down and actively work the soil and I'm wondering if burning the grasses/organic matter will actually effect the contaminate or if I should not put the ash back into the ground.
I was looking this up two days ago!
Good experiment
Great information as always. 1 QUESTION: Do you know how long this product, Grazon, has been in the compost? I got 15 bags 2 years ago from Wm, still sitting 🙈. Yes, I know I need to move it b4 the bags fall apart, lol
Thanks for your human interest and love of all things gardening and beyond👍😊😊
I believe they started selling it in '07.
This is maddening,
what if I buy bagged product? test every bag?
The soil distributors that get municipal green waste , who knows what people spray on their plants!
Thanks so much !
Thank you, that was very helpful.
Great, simple test. Thanks!
I was planning on cleaning out the chicken coop (straw and pine shavings as bedding) and adding it to the compost pile. Now I'm not sure if it is worth the hassle....
This has been helpful, thanks. I'm going to have to start making my own seed starting mix, and the compost that I use just might have to be my own as well. Lately I've been having trouble with potting soils and seed starting mixes that are tainted, although not sure with what. I've heard from my master gardener courses that they have sent bagged soils to labs and found the sodium content to be way too high. Last year I started my giant pumpkin seeds, 8 for 8 came up. Then I tried a second batch of backups using a new bag. Zero for 7 on that second bag! I can take peat pellet started tomatoes, pot them up in bagged potting soil and they all get sick and die. Some bags, open them up and it smells like raw manure. Sigh.
I just viewed a post you made about Grazon, and one of the photos is much like what I see in some of my pumpkin seedlings! Stunted small leaves that curl up. I think when I finally do find a good plant, I just got lucky with the portion of "soil" that it got.
I'm sorry.
Thank you, for all you do. I have bought several of your books and always enjoy your demonstrations.
In a few months, we'll be moving to our house in Ft Myers. I had been planning on starting with a few Chip Drops, but now I'm not so sure. I understand that we now need to watch manure, compost, and hay, but do we need to also be wary of wood chips?
this is amazing timing on this video. my first cup of coffee this morning and your new video blows my mind. yesterday evening I loaded my truck with crates to go to a neighbor's field and collect Cow Patties because in zone 8B we haven't had rain in a month either perfect timing for Gathering patties. I always take an extra little bucket of compost with me because I find so many worms under the patties. so do you think the worms are contaminated too??? I don't see how they can't be. seems like our whole system is contaminated. I'm still going to collect my patties this morning but I'm going to secure them in an area where I can test them your way. I've been wanting to ask you if you grow coyote squash?? ours are just starting to come in good and I would love to share some with you for seedling.
It's really rough how much is contaminated. I don't know coyote squash.
I'm so sorry I totally misspelled the name of Chayote. it is a wonderful late season perennial Vine that grows the most extraordinary vegetables or fruit I can't decide.
Yes, I have grown it - but starting it is a problem for me. Most of the fruit I plant end up growing a bit of vine, then rotting.
. you have to wait until the fruit is ripe and it starts putting out a sprout on the bottom end. that's how we plant ours. last year we had about 150 big beautiful squash. this year not so good but it's worth the effort in the work and we built a large arch for them to grow on which gave us a beautiful shaded place to sit take a break in the shade
This is so smart! Love it!
Was that Frankenstein for that artistic short clip?
Transparent Man.
@@davidthegood very cool
AWESOME info! Thanks.
Thank you 😊 David.
David, once contaminated your soil is doomed for life? We compost straw from the chicken coop and I'm now uncertain that this is a good idea, may switch to pine shavings. Thanks for the info!
Difference between straw and hay.
Straw from small grains probably less likely to be sprayed with persistent GRAZON.
However, a 'fair' amount of small grains are lightly sprayed with glyphosate (RoundUp) if field ripened unevenly (too much moisture). The Roundup dessicates the plants so combine doesn't get choked down by a patch of still pretty green stems.
It's not a widespread tactic but it is approved and is used.
It takes a couple of years for the soil microorganisms to break it down.
@@davidthegood our tomato plants looked just like your photos this year, beans and zucchini did as well, peppers and okra did well and are still producing... not sure what is going on.
Show grocery row garden now please after planting it last time
Nothing to see yet - it's super dry and the plants are just hanging on.
It makes me wonder if adding ground hay to a proven safe medium and testing on beans or sensitive plant would catch it on the front end?
Thank you!
This spring I took some old chicken manure and shavings from my coop clean out and soaked it in water for a few weeks. Took a couple handfuls off the dry material after water had evaporated and mixed into several gallons of water and used a cup of that to a couple gallons of water to water my hybrid cherry tomato and all the slips I removed from the post of the stem that I planted deep. All the starts that had looked so good up till then got ask twisted and skinny weird Marie lead growth and then they all died within a month. The larger parent plant did terrible with the narrow growth for a month and then seemed to recover during the summer. Now that temps are cooling off, it is putting on normal growth and a zillion tomatoes. Did I just burn them with too much, or is it from spray on the plants of commercial grains I use as chicken feed? I give them black oil sunflower seed, whole oats and Milo, usually soaked or sprouted or even fodder stage or fermented. Thank you for all your info. Just bought Grow or Die.
Thanks for the video. I'm new to this channel, and I didn't know if your info was trustworthy, so I looked up Grazon before I watched the video. No sense in getting all upset over something that doesn't actually exist, right? But what I read sounded like the old, cheesy, 1950's horror movies I love to watch. Thank you for letting us know about this unfortunately real... I don't even know what to call it.
BTW, I also like art films.
This is perfect advice
LOL had a quick thought, could just see one of the kids walking back and forth behind you while you are talking with the growing Plant joke, where everytime they walk past the plant is bigger. silly I know, but hey, its what I was thinking! ;)
😂 loved the disclaimer regarding art film!
Thanks.
HA HA HAAAAAA! The art exhibition! PRICELESS! You're my kinda sicko, @David The Good !
I have heard that charcoal or biochar mixed into contaminated soil can help.
David, I up-potted some roses and hydrangeas along with some cow manure a friend gave me, about a week and a half ago. I now am wondering if his cows had eaten Grazon...everything including the up-potted plants and veggies in my garden all got some and now are in a stage of yellowing leaves and the only plants in my veggie garden that are doing well, are the ones I planted before he gave me the manure! I'm in a parsonage temporarily as we find land and build a homestead. So I'm not too concerned about the garden, but my plants and roses, I care deeply about, as I've been growing them specifically to plant at our new house. Do you think if I get them out of the manure mixture and start over with good soil only, that they might survive? Thank you for your time on this subject. I'm a little desperate!! 😢
I would pull them out right away, repot in fresh soil, and hope for the best. Pray over them, too. Usually the damage from Grazon shows up as twisting new growth.
Thank you David.
❤ your family art!
I got a load of compost from a nursery, they said they tested and there was nothing bad in it but every year when I plant peas and beans they keel over after the first few leaves. The tomatoes have that leaf curling problem. It has been 3 years now. I have put charcoal and left the plants to try to absorb the poison but no luck so far. Is there a way to neutralize that soil? It was very expensive and I hate t dig it all out and start over.
My thoughts: www.thesurvivalgardener.com/rescue-garden-destroyed-grazon-contamination/
very interesting, at some point this stuff gets into ( or is in ) the food chain, especially ruminants that have ingested this crap. I wonder what it does to humans . Thanks for the video
I wonder as well.
Omg i found out just a week ago that they use grazone for cattle feed. I already transplanted all my seedlings using steer manure. They seem to grow. Praying it has no herbicides
You buy black Kow compost it could have the stuff in it.
Grazon appears to be a physical representation of evil, a great object lesson.
Would anything else make Bell pepper leaves do that? I grew some plants from some seeds from the store and their leaves looked curled like that.
Thanks for the info as always
Mr Good, please tell me the name of the soil tester company you have used. I've been looking through your videos and posts, but haven't had any luck.
thank you so much.
I worked with Logan Labs
@@davidthegood thank you.
I have a roselle that I think was grown in previously grazon tainted soil (2 years ago). The plant looks fine, grew very large and produced pods. Do you think it's safe?
Yes, should be fine.
Thanks for the great trick!
Looking forward to the (probably creepy) art film. 🤣
Hmmm.....I planted a Chayote, and while it has 2 vines that look healthy, another dried up and another has gnarly leaves, could it be possible the soil I bought in La Comer be contaminated with Grazon? Thanks for sharing David,and wishing ya a great rest of the week.
What about salt lick? Can you test for that?
Why?
I can't even keep a normal sized hula hoop going anymore. THAT was SKILL.
I appreciate your art film :)
Does anyone know if this product is allowed in Europe? Maybe its named differently here 🤔
Yes
Good advice.
Thank goodness I only had a bag garden , i have discarded all that soil. This is what happened to my plants . I'm composting my scraps and chicken manure ..i did not put any bought manure in my garden beds thankfully
Hi 👋
Hi David, how do you find out about which parts of the plants are edible or not?? I’ve seen a few gardening videos in the UK, where I live, but they seem to assume that we already know.
Good reliable websites or old school botanical encyclopedias
Thanks 🙏🏼