I have a healthy relationship with skepticism. And yes, there is life beyond group speak. That is why we have education. The sad fact is people don't get to keep their text books. People don't keep old books besides (that book). People don't get in touch with previous generations and their group speak or look at the group speak used by Founding Fathers and the people of their day, and language does change. It takes a lot to be aware. It takes a lot of energy to be educated. That is why people don't engage with it much. It takes a lot of time and work. We used to have laws in the USA that still encouraged free speach, but discouraged lying. And then Reagan came along and "fixed it" for us. And then media could lie. And then advertisers could lie. And then businessmen could lie just like a preacher does and make all of the claims they wanted, and screw the public. And here we are. We've seen diet cults. We've seen New Age cults. We've seen self-help cults. We've seen political cults. We've seen commercial cults and commercials trying to encourage a cult-like following of their products. We've seen group-speak from 4Chan. We've seen group-speak from political parties. We've seen cultish following of sports teams and sports stars. We've seen cult-like followers of Rock Stars. We've seen cult-like behavior in every aspect of our lives. We are inundated with one cult after another and a constant barrage of it in our social lives. We used to have three networks and the same television programming we could all relate to and a common language and a common cultishness around these programs in the USA. We've followed cultish polution in our music. We've followed cultish devotion to drugs. We've had a cultish devotion to "historical figures" from 0 C.E. and will continue to have this cultish devotion to it. We've never had a cultish devotion to clarity or truth or a cultish devotion to anything other than the latest greatest Newest thing, or a cultish devotion to the Oldest thing. How do we make it through? Skepticism. See with our eyes. Hear with our ears. Don't buy what people are trying to sell us, and treat each other well. Learn what reality is and accept reality whether we like it or not. If somebody has to bullshit you all day long about something, then they clearly have something to sell.
People have been cutting of there parents for decades, You can emancipate yourself. A word doesn't bring an act into existence. Its just what people choose to call it now and will call it something else in the future.
I grew up Jehovah’s Witness and their current definition of a “lie” is “The opposite of truth… saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or another person.”
This isn't really an issue. The purpose of communication is to make your thoughts and ideas understood to the person you are conversing with. I would be naive to think my communication style in my corporate job would suffice in the streets and vice versa. The issue most folks actually have is that THEY cannot navigate different realities as fluid as I can. Oh well that sounds like a them problem. Of course I don't talk to my White family the same as I do my Black family. The same way I don't talk to my 4th and 4)5th grade Boys basketball team the same way I talk to my work team. This is not code switching or the utilization of "group speak". It's is called navigating the real world accordingly.
Can’t it be both? Frankly, I agree that the video does a bad job of drawing a separation between the valuable parts of this sociological phenomenon and the dangerous ones. I don’t think that’s what she was going for, though.
Yea, this is unfortunately true. The same psychology tricks used to control people are monetized in advertising. Advice for product promotion is like "Make them feel part of a club," but they're not, and it's just a temporary substitute for family/community. I need to come back through this comment section, but your comment touched on a terrible realization that is driving me to become a hermit.
While there is obviously reason to despair at the evil of the world. There is every reason and more to embrace the beauty of it. Cuisine, the written word, the sacrifices of the saints, the accomplishments of science, the power of music, the smile and laugh of your child. What shadow of suffering or evil does all the cosmos hold against such things? They shiver at their own insignificance in the face of such glory. The will we have to survive and to make a better tomorrow. It is there. It is inescapable. All the neigh-saying and doomsday cults to exist but one thing remains. Us. We are still here. So long as we are. I will continue to make a toast at the gift this world has been to me. To be part of something like this universe. What a prize.
I think there needs to be a distinction between language that comes from a culture and is used deliberately for the function of the group and cult language that is solely used to control the group
Great video. explains how a lot of controversial conversations end up turned into arguments because of slogans that represent groupthink ideas. You see it with the gender war podcasts, or debates about the war in Israel and Palestine.
Hmmm ... All professions/jobs have their own groupspeak or nomenclature that identifies to others that they either have knowledge of or have worked in those respective fields.
I can think of another examples that certain groups use, particularly if they are rural versus urban. "At the end of the day..." "Git 'r done" "Fixin' ta.." Rural areas have a SLEW of group speak that is regional. Nothing new to see here and it shows up in sitcoms and television shows as far back as the fifties and sixties... Go further back and you see it in the 1920's. It's an interesting topic. There is plain English like what I am using, and there is slang, and there are political slogans, and cultural memes. It is all annoying in it's own way. And people will pretend there are hidden truisms behind all of it, and that is the feature they like, and not the bug that is there.
I also noticed what you said about the word toxic also with the word problematic. I don't use either because they are flattening (using it as am adjective). They have a way of compressing multiple behaviors into one with varying intensity, while implying a moral imperative. As an example, liking anime is problematic because women are pretty, but so is wanting women to be drunk before coitus. These are not the same thing at all, but they are similar because "problematic".
just had a random high thought, as kids I get told in school not give into peer pressure. Yet as an adult I got peer pressured by other adults into taking the vaccine.
This was great and I feel personally attacked. I'm on the political right and I literally listen for buzzwords to see if the channel is leftist (I used one myself there). I'm a sub btw, you make good content without going "in conclusion... Racism" so thank you for that.
DEI trainings. Social work program. People who attend these come out swaggering and wagging their fingers using the new learned lingo. They may think they are now able to be more kind and competent culturally to do no harm, but in fact I’ve seen the opposite. Using acronyms and jargon not only is oppressive to those not in the know, making them afraid to say they have no idea what you are saying, but it also oppresses immigrants and the Deaf who are not fluent in American English already. Exclusion instead of Inclusion, forced conformity and uniformity intolerant of diversity, and inequity by behaving superior to another group, shows both DEI and social work programming can be called cults.
If you could put the info cards in when you have other videos for something (like cult of self mention at 10:33) it would be good for more viewing! (If you did it already somewhere else as I was listening and didn’t actually stop to LOOK, Nevermind this whole comment)! 🤎🙏🏾 love your work, you’re so smart, appreciate you flexing that!
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This is definitely on point
The words we speak program our thoughts
I have a healthy relationship with skepticism. And yes, there is life beyond group speak. That is why we have education. The sad fact is people don't get to keep their text books. People don't keep old books besides (that book). People don't get in touch with previous generations and their group speak or look at the group speak used by Founding Fathers and the people of their day, and language does change.
It takes a lot to be aware. It takes a lot of energy to be educated. That is why people don't engage with it much. It takes a lot of time and work.
We used to have laws in the USA that still encouraged free speach, but discouraged lying.
And then Reagan came along and "fixed it" for us.
And then media could lie. And then advertisers could lie. And then businessmen could lie just like a preacher does and make all of the claims they wanted, and screw the public. And here we are.
We've seen diet cults. We've seen New Age cults. We've seen self-help cults. We've seen political cults. We've seen commercial cults and commercials trying to encourage a cult-like following of their products. We've seen group-speak from 4Chan. We've seen group-speak from political parties. We've seen cultish following of sports teams and sports stars. We've seen cult-like followers of Rock Stars. We've seen cult-like behavior in every aspect of our lives.
We are inundated with one cult after another and a constant barrage of it in our social lives.
We used to have three networks and the same television programming we could all relate to and a common language and a common cultishness around these programs in the USA. We've followed cultish polution in our music. We've followed cultish devotion to drugs.
We've had a cultish devotion to "historical figures" from 0 C.E. and will continue to have this cultish devotion to it.
We've never had a cultish devotion to clarity or truth or a cultish devotion to anything other than the latest greatest Newest thing, or a cultish devotion to the Oldest thing.
How do we make it through? Skepticism. See with our eyes. Hear with our ears. Don't buy what people are trying to sell us, and treat each other well.
Learn what reality is and accept reality whether we like it or not. If somebody has to bullshit you all day long about something, then they clearly have something to sell.
People have been cutting of there parents for decades, You can emancipate yourself. A word doesn't bring an act into existence. Its just what people choose to call it now and will call it something else in the future.
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I grew up Jehovah’s Witness and their current definition of a “lie” is “The opposite of truth… saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or another person.”
This is very interesting because it is real and natural occurance for me but I never realized it. Thanks for this video
This isn't really an issue. The purpose of communication is to make your thoughts and ideas understood to the person you are conversing with. I would be naive to think my communication style in my corporate job would suffice in the streets and vice versa. The issue most folks actually have is that THEY cannot navigate different realities as fluid as I can. Oh well that sounds like a them problem. Of course I don't talk to my White family the same as I do my Black family. The same way I don't talk to my 4th and 4)5th grade Boys basketball team the same way I talk to my work team. This is not code switching or the utilization of "group speak". It's is called navigating the real world accordingly.
Can’t it be both?
Frankly, I agree that the video does a bad job of drawing a separation between the valuable parts of this sociological phenomenon and the dangerous ones. I don’t think that’s what she was going for, though.
Ah yes well this was meant to serve as a warning but unfortunately, certain profit motives have transformed this instead, into a blueprint.
Yea, this is unfortunately true. The same psychology tricks used to control people are monetized in advertising. Advice for product promotion is like "Make them feel part of a club," but they're not, and it's just a temporary substitute for family/community.
I need to come back through this comment section, but your comment touched on a terrible realization that is driving me to become a hermit.
While there is obviously reason to despair at the evil of the world. There is every reason and more to embrace the beauty of it. Cuisine, the written word, the sacrifices of the saints, the accomplishments of science, the power of music, the smile and laugh of your child. What shadow of suffering or evil does all the cosmos hold against such things? They shiver at their own insignificance in the face of such glory. The will we have to survive and to make a better tomorrow. It is there. It is inescapable. All the neigh-saying and doomsday cults to exist but one thing remains. Us. We are still here. So long as we are. I will continue to make a toast at the gift this world has been to me. To be part of something like this universe. What a prize.
Great video! I enjoyed the analysis. Magic is real :-)
I think there needs to be a distinction between language that comes from a culture and is used deliberately for the function of the group and cult language that is solely used to control the group
Great video. explains how a lot of controversial conversations end up turned into arguments because of slogans that represent groupthink ideas. You see it with the gender war podcasts, or debates about the war in Israel and Palestine.
Hmmm ... All professions/jobs have their own groupspeak or nomenclature that identifies to others that they either have knowledge of or have worked in those respective fields.
Build Back Better....Never Forget...Trust the Science...I grew up a Jehovahs Witness so thankfully I got a phD in deciphering bull 💩.
I can think of another examples that certain groups use, particularly if they are rural versus urban.
"At the end of the day..."
"Git 'r done"
"Fixin' ta.."
Rural areas have a SLEW of group speak that is regional. Nothing new to see here and it shows up in sitcoms and television shows as far back as the fifties and sixties...
Go further back and you see it in the 1920's. It's an interesting topic. There is plain English like what I am using, and there is slang, and there are political slogans, and cultural memes.
It is all annoying in it's own way. And people will pretend there are hidden truisms behind all of it, and that is the feature they like, and not the bug that is there.
I also noticed what you said about the word toxic also with the word problematic. I don't use either because they are flattening (using it as am adjective). They have a way of compressing multiple behaviors into one with varying intensity, while implying a moral imperative. As an example, liking anime is problematic because women are pretty, but so is wanting women to be drunk before coitus. These are not the same thing at all, but they are similar because "problematic".
I love group speak.
Fantastic video. I'll add psychiatry, medicine and martial arts to the mix (all things I have l experience in 😅)
just had a random high thought, as kids I get told in school not give into peer pressure. Yet as an adult I got peer pressured by other adults into taking the vaccine.
The vaccine peer pressure was the ultimate test of those grade school lessons. It was abusive what happened to you
This was great and I feel personally attacked. I'm on the political right and I literally listen for buzzwords to see if the channel is leftist (I used one myself there). I'm a sub btw, you make good content without going "in conclusion... Racism" so thank you for that.
Because bringing up racism is just too much for your feeble mind
@@Loch1210 this comment was racist
@@canibezeroun1988 how?
Remember Thinking Caps?
🤔 company must’ve went bankrupt…smh
Grand Rising
Low vibration
strangely enough the thing that drives me most up the walls is the abbreviations. it's so nonsensical.
Maye go look at the definition of nice etymology
#Mayeharem ❤
The only thing I got from the video is that Trump supporters are like your baby's friend who looks up to him.
Thank you for the insight.
This video made me so grateful to be an American
Lol, I can’t tell if you really mean that or not. But anyway, every culture and subculture does this to some extent.
Or you speak English.
Okay, time is valuable. Could you come to your point right away?
DEI trainings.
Social work program.
People who attend these come out swaggering and wagging their fingers using the new learned lingo. They may think they are now able to be more kind and competent culturally to do no harm, but in fact I’ve seen the opposite.
Using acronyms and jargon not only is oppressive to those not in the know, making them afraid to say they have no idea what you are saying, but it also oppresses immigrants and the Deaf who are not fluent in American English already. Exclusion instead of Inclusion, forced conformity and uniformity intolerant of diversity, and inequity by behaving superior to another group, shows both DEI and social work programming can be called cults.
If you could put the info cards in when you have other videos for something (like cult of self mention at 10:33) it would be good for more viewing!
(If you did it already somewhere else as I was listening and didn’t actually stop to LOOK, Nevermind this whole comment)!
🤎🙏🏾 love your work, you’re so smart, appreciate you flexing that!