Next-level trick for fatter bass! Mastering trick in Kotelnikov GE

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @genejas
    @genejas Год назад +7

    another cool trick with the frequency dependant ratio is using the equal loudness curve for mixes where the vocal is too loud or quiet

  • @gianlucamarchese
    @gianlucamarchese Год назад +6

    TDR plugins are something else.
    One trick that I love to use in mastering for clients (when the low end needs some extension) is the Phi hidden trick inside Slick EQ Mastering Edition using ctrl+shift+hp On.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад +1

      Interesting! The slick EQ is on our radar, maybe we have to start using it now and try that little trick ☺️thanks for sharing! /Sofia

  • @rogergamon
    @rogergamon Год назад +4

    This is great information, thank you

  • @Illkacirma
    @Illkacirma Год назад +2

    thanks for sharing this and for all your great educational work

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 Год назад +3

    Love this channel

  • @jacquelamontharenberg
    @jacquelamontharenberg Год назад +1

    Excellent information Sofia. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Thank you.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад +1

      You’re welcome! ☀️ Nice to have you here! ⭐️ /Sofia

  • @Middlestepofficial
    @Middlestepofficial 7 месяцев назад

    TDR Kotelnikov GE is not a multiband compressor, but a band selective compressor. There's a difference. In multiband compression, we have crossovers between frequencies that can be controlled, and this is usually a problem because they introduce always a phase shift in the signal. Band selective compressors, however, don't suffer of the same issue. Another example of such compression often used in mastering is the Weiss DS1-MK3 hardware compressor
    (there's also a plugin). The difference is that the Weiss acts as a limiter / de-esser rather than a compressor, but maybe the Kotelnikov can be also set similarly by ramping up the attack speed to maximum.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  5 месяцев назад

      Kotelnikov GE is a full band compressor and it's not "band selective" in the same way that the Weiss DS1 is. Kotelnikov reacts to the full signal (apart from the SC high pass) but can have different ratios at different frequencies. That's the topic of the video.
      "Band selective" is what Weiss calls the DS1, and that is indeed a multiband compressor. It has hi/low/band-pass filters to split the signal into separate bands and can apply dynamic processing to one of the bands. The filters are linear phase so no phase shift is introduced, although there is pre/post ringing. It can also be used as a full band compressor or limiter, and it has a separate peak limiter at the end.
      Multiband compressors, deessers, dynamic EQs and plugins like Kotelnikov GE are all different but also quite similar. The main differences are the shapes and sizes of the frequency areas that are being processed, what is being fed into the sidechain(s) and how the sidechain(s) react.
      /Thomas

  • @robhouse1926
    @robhouse1926 Год назад +1

    Thanks very much Sofia! Very helpful as usual. I’ll try this with Kotelnikov.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад +1

      Let us know what you think! ☀️ /Sofia

    • @robhouse1926
      @robhouse1926 Год назад

      I like the effect on the low end. Retains more of the bass achieved in the mixing stage! This is a great mastering compressor.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад +1

      Yes, it really is useful. It’s one of those tools that really adds functionality to the mastering chain I think. Glad you liked it. Thank you for taking the time to update. /Sofia

  • @jangerhard4039
    @jangerhard4039 Год назад +1

    I melt listening to the voiceover with that accent! 🤩

    • @Windiguana
      @Windiguana 11 месяцев назад

      Both of their's

  • @zootook3422
    @zootook3422 Год назад +1

    Awesome as usual. Thanks for sharing!

  • @chris_share
    @chris_share Год назад +1

    Excellent tip! Thanks!

  • @fredrikh9299
    @fredrikh9299 9 месяцев назад

    Tack Sofia!

  • @croay
    @croay Год назад +2

    Really informative video and wonderful channel, Sofia. I glad I found it! Insta sub! Also, I don't think there's anything exactly alike the Frequency Dependent Ratio in Kotelnikov but I know Sculpt and Pro-C 2 have really flexible sidechain capabilities that can suffice in most cases.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад

      Thank you and welcome! ☀️Thank you for the tips! 👌 /Sofia

  • @spudstyle8872
    @spudstyle8872 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the tips. I think Unisum from Tone Projects do that with more options, you have to try this compressor, amazing on any source!

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад

      That’s great to know! We really have to try that one, it has definitely been on our radar. Thank you for the info! ☀️☺️ /Sofia

  • @hydrogxn
    @hydrogxn Год назад

    Yesss!! Great video! Great advice and techniques

  • @andersjanocha6960
    @andersjanocha6960 Год назад +1

    Thanks for a super tip

  • @MasteringExplained
    @MasteringExplained  Год назад +2

    Have you used this trick before? Do you know about any other compressors that can do this? Please share with us!

    • @bodanerius
      @bodanerius Год назад

      Is the TDR GE EQ-ing the sidchain signal? Or doing emphasis/de-enphasis EQ? Or something else entirely?

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  Год назад +1

      As far as I know it is filtering the delta signal. /Sofia

    • @NoQualmsTheArtist
      @NoQualmsTheArtist Год назад +1

      @@bodanerius I believe it is altering the ratio in different parts of the frequency spectrum. So it actually compresses less of the bass in this instance. Eg: 1:1 on bass 4:1 on mids and highs and inbetween is varying from 1:1, 2:1, 3:1 to 4:1. Hope this makes sense? 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @NoQualmsTheArtist
      @NoQualmsTheArtist Год назад

      @@molandsonsmotors9690 compressors generally have 1 ratio 4:1 etc. Kotelnikov has a variable ratio which you select for a range of frequencies. In this instance the bass area had a 1:1 ratio and upper mids / highs have a 2:1 ratio. So the bass doesn't get compressed. Pretty genius actually and it's not the same as a multi and compressor, it's quite unique.

    • @danivalles7638
      @danivalles7638 Год назад

      Tone Projects Unisum has a multiband sidechain while being a single band compressor. You can tweak threshold, ratio and RMS speed / Peak influence (Peak Crest on Kotelnikov) per band and they will influence how the compression acts on the audio path. That allows you to implement this technique while also having control on the speed of the detector for each band. Really powerful and it sounds very musical. I love both, tend to reach for Kotelnikov for faster attack times and Unisum for slower ones. Most times both in combination.

  • @hydrogxn
    @hydrogxn Год назад +2

    A video on some multiplicity uses please!

  • @vladpetrovsky8674
    @vladpetrovsky8674 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for sharing your findings!) Very useful information!

  • @compoundaudio
    @compoundaudio Год назад +1

    excellent!!!!

  • @luiza177music
    @luiza177music Год назад

    Thanks for sharing this video! I'd never heard of this trick before. I would've been curious to find out how this would compare to simply EQing the sidechain signal. Is that what the "low frequency relax" feature does? I've no experience with the Kotelnikov as of this moment, I don't think I've heard of other compressors with this feature set, or at least that presents it in this way.

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore Год назад

    Cool trick! Just curious how this is different from using a low SC filter though? I.e. the Low Freq Relax feature. I'm just there's a difference, i just need to hear the explanation

  • @thamilanban
    @thamilanban Год назад

    Thank you. Subscribed 👍

  • @MR_Cellarpop
    @MR_Cellarpop Год назад

    Thanks

  • @frankharley442
    @frankharley442 Год назад +1

    Since its a wide band compressor the low end will still get compressed. gain reduction will lower every thing passing through. It's not multiband

    • @NoQualmsTheArtist
      @NoQualmsTheArtist Год назад +4

      This is not a hpf in the sidechain. This is a variable ratio. The bass is a 1:1 ratio mids and highs are a 2:1 ratio. It is literally not compressing the bass. You are correct in the misconception of a high pass internal sidechain, but that is not this. The variable ratio is unique to Kotelnikov, you can't compare it to other full band compressors.

    • @frankharley442
      @frankharley442 Год назад

      @@NoQualmsTheArtist So if the bass was at 3:1 then what?

    • @NoQualmsTheArtist
      @NoQualmsTheArtist Год назад +3

      @@frankharley442 you can choose what ratio curve you want. Compress more bass, less bass, only mids etc. The compression is still triggered by the whole signal but only compresses a certain frequency range, basically the opposite of a sidechain EQ which compresses the whole signal triggered by part of the signal.

  • @thamilanban
    @thamilanban Год назад

    I am a novice. Does this compressor do upwards compression as well? Do you do upwards compression during mastering?

  • @Pradip.KumarDey
    @Pradip.KumarDey 6 месяцев назад

    Can we do this same with Maximus in FL Studio stock plugin.

    • @MasteringExplained
      @MasteringExplained  5 месяцев назад

      I have never used FL Studio, maybe someone will know the answer 🙃 /Sofia

  • @jbussenius
    @jbussenius Год назад +1

    Ska kolla in!

  • @ChristRecords2O16
    @ChristRecords2O16 Год назад

    I must be tone death, really don’t hear a difference