Found the injury measures on the NHTSA database. (Driver-Passenger) F-250: HIC: 307-433 Chest G: 35-38 Femur Loads: 3594/990 - 127/72 (N). Focus: HIC: 1500-1068 Chest G: 86-58 Femur Loads: 6539/7175 - 4671/5729 (N) The dummies were a 50th percentile male (approx 5'9, 170 lbs) in the driver's seats and a 5th percentile female (approx 5'0, 105 lbs) in the passenger's seats. Per NHTSA's old star rating formula, the Focus's driver would have an 82% risk of severe injury, the F-250's only 5%. In practice this means that a real-life driver of the Focus would probably be severely injured, but would most likely survive. A real-life driver of the F-250 would probably walk away with minor injury at worst. I'm not 100% sure on what forces 5th percentile dummies can withstand compared to 50th percentile, but suffice it to say the passenger of the F-250 would probably have minor injuries and the passenger of the Focus would probably be seriously injured, if not severely injured. October 20, 2021 4:59 pm
@@bldontmatter5319 Its not just like that. They do mean, and they help alot. But there is alot of things that go into equation. Heavier vehicle will normally present much bigger damage to the lighter vehicle, and if lighter vehicle did not have crumple zones at all, forces would be even higher. What also helps is to have more solid steel after crumple zones. This car crumpled more than it should. It felt like it was made completely of crumplonium.
I wish that in these videos, they include the dummy sensor values as well.. like the force of whiplash, concussion, bone breakage, etc. That would be spectacular
@@Steve-Mcgarrett those in the f series were hurting. The truck stopped. Severe whiplash at least. Probably occupants either ejecting or submarining TBH
Great MPG, PZEV motor puts out 1/10 the emissions for a normal car that gets 32 mpg if maintained well with good fluids. Great car 5* frontal crash rating. Good hp, easily manuvered out of a crash.
1974 F250 I have seen plenty of people die crushed in pickup trucks vs tree. For some reason when it comes to a tree the weight works against the occupants.
A friend's 2002 Excursion had an accident like this (not as servere) at 150,000 miles 10 years ago. It's now at 500,000 miles and still running like a clock.
@unarmed blackman yikes indeed. the high fill up price is the only thing he says he doesn't like... probably gonna hold onto it for a time because they're starting to become more and more uncommon and much more desirable.
@Avery Allen Depends on the car. A Civic would hold up very well. For comparison : ruclips.net/video/NCelD0qr8Do/видео.html Yes, the car still takes the brunt of the damage, but at least in a Civic you have a chance at living.. That Focus is 100% guaranteed death. Shit....focus driver got knocked from life so fast they probably missed the onramp to the highway to heaven and had to backtrack.
@@twoeightythreezthis is beyond incorrect, the F-150 was lowered and was going at a lower speed. Additionally this is the massive F-250. No car would have a chance
i definitely think you should need a special license to drive a pickup or large suv. when i was new to driving, i dreaded driving my parents' 07 yukon xl cause it was so big and unwieldy. i felt so much safer driving their civic
I still love my little focus, But can confirm that if it’s on a lift you can take your fist and punch dents into the floorboard of an unrusted MKI, Then lower it and stomp the dents back out with your feet. Based on the crash test footage, My MKI is very likely to get me killed if I ever wreck it, But I’m in love with it, Plus it was free and all my other vehicles get like 15mpg.
That happened a few days ago in my town. A man who JUST retired the day prior was driving to a gulf course, and crossed a free way. They got T-boned by a semi truck hauling a water tank (not sure if loaded up). Edit. He was driving an extended cab truck, not sure of exact type, to messed up to tell). They were both killed on impact. Looks like the semi went 1/2 way into the cab on the drivers side. I saw him 3 days prior and he told me we was finally gonna retire……😓 What a way to go. I just hope it was a quick end……….
The reason they used different speeds for the two vehicles is to give them the same momentum, otherwise the wreckage would keep moving after the collision. Momentum is Mass X Velocity, so the F-250 has a mass 72/38 times the mass of the Focus (1.9 times heavier).
My family actually has an f250 that looks nearly like that Recently it slid into a ditch and destroyed the front end and the sides, did i mention we drove the rest of the trip home? (200 mi)
I mean, I know this is a video trying to show you the damage caused by a collision, but for those thinking the car is particularly unsafe... It’s more that the truck weighs 3x as much as the car. The car will take far more damage simply because it is going to be hit with more of an impact than the truck will because the truck only feels the impact from the car while the car feels the impact from the truck... Which is far more.
I hate pickup truck drivers (at least in my area). They buy them "to feel safer" but they arent safer except for certain circumstances like this one. Instead you just seriously injured or killed that guy in the focus. Now they just drive around like they own the road and act like assholes. (it's like a 8 to 1 pickup to car ratio around here)
Yep. Most of them hardly ever haul anything that requires a truck, they don't go off road and they drive like they're in a sports car. Then when they rear end someone because they were following too close or they flip over because they were driving to fast, they can't understand what went wrong. My favorite is when they fly by you on an icy/snowy road, confident in their 4 wheel drive and then several miles down the road you see them off the side of the road after they lost control.
In my area, pick ups are a necessary part of life. Farming and rural life find very good use for a true pickup over an SUV or these modern short box pick ups that are just basically SUV's. Driven correctly, a 4x4 truck is vastly superior to a 2wd vehicle of the same weight rating on ice and snow, and we have a lot of ice and snow. I think the problem is urban/rural. People in one environment will drive them for a different reason than somewhere else.
Both vehicles were survivable. Just a worse day for the focus passengers. The test also doesn't take into account things like how fast either vehicle can stop or maneuver. I drive for a living and I can tell you I've had several incidents that I could avoid in a small nimble vehicle that would have been accidents in a large truck or SUV. Should we do a roll over test and then put "at least they got to sit up high and haul stuff with that truck" on the tombstone of the truck driver?
@@patrickshelley09 Yes but sudden overcorrections of steering to cause rollovers are a function of your driving ability. If your on a two lane road and the guy in the oncoming lane hits you head on there is not alot you can do about it. If you buy a vehicle that your setting yourself up to always be the smallest guy in a crash then that was your choice. I highly doubt that the Focus driver walked away or could even walk after that crash. Sitting up high also is more of an advantage while driving. You can see further down the road over other cars, past hills ,signs and embankments all giving you alot more reaction time to slow down and completely avoid what's coming. I was at Ford dealership a few years ago and saw a f350 in the repair lot for the body shop. It had hit a 3ft diameter oak tree at 60 mph. The front end was notched into the engine compartment atleast 3/4 of the way. They told me the driver walked away from it. You could still open the doors . I would much rather have 8ft of steel between myself and an object then 2 of plastic and steel. I own a metal fabricationand welding shop with a 12,000 lb lift to repair trucks and cars in it. I see what minimum amounts of steel they use to " improve your fuel efficiency " .
@@buildthings79 There are times you need to make sudden and sharp steering adjustments. If your choice is hit an object or swerve, you swerve. Sitting up high does give you a visual advantage. But just like over correction is avoidable in most cases, sitting lower down means it's up to the driver to drive correctly when vision is impaired. I've driven small trucks, lifted trucks, large cars and small cars. I'd rather sit back a little and know I can stop or maneuver than be able to see slightly better. You can actually drive correctly and see what's in front of you in a small car. Just takes adjustment. Your example of the truck hitting the tree is more about the frame construction. A crown vic may have had similar results. I use the example of a crown vic because I lost control when I was younger and t boned a box truck on the freeway. Walked away. I likely wouldn't have lost control in a focus though (FWD vs RWD). But we're still talking about front end collisions. That doesn't factor in side impacts, roll overs or accidents avoided. My original point is that insulting people for driving a small fuel efficient vehicle is short sighted. When you buy a vehicle, you have to factor in a lot of thing. Fuel econ is very important for a lot of people. I save thousands a year on fuel because I drive a small car instead of an SUV or Truck (not to mention tire cost, insurance, registration, purchase price etc). I've also avoided accidents that I know I wouldn't have avoided in my crown vic, let alone a truck/SUV. I'm talking about accidents that happened in front of me, people suddenly swerving into my lane etc. To clarify, the accidents that happened in front of me were visible to me as they happened and sitting up higher would have given me no advanced warning. When it comes down to it, an accident avoided is much better than having a lot of steel between you and the other vehicle in any accident. And driving a heavy, high center of gravity vehicle makes it much more likely that you'll be in a roll over than I'm likely to be in a head on collision with a truck.
@@mattmayo3539 Fair enough. I've driven both and would rather drive the small car as a daily. The amount I drive, it saves me thousands a year in gas and parts (tires, oil etc).
I had a Honda Civic rear end my F-350, the driver admitted to going 45 mph and I was stopped. The lady at the insurance company asked me how I was getting my truck home...told them I was driving it. Honda was smashed clear to the windshield, driver and passenger ok, they had to haul that sucker off. Size does matter!
...And that son is why Gas Mileage doesn't mean shit if you're in an accident. Take the truck and live with maybe a backache and a headache, meanwhile, the driver in the focus has two shattered arms and most likely a broken neck causing death upon impact.
The problem is that 90% of people who buy trucks don't do truck things with them. They throw away their money on a big truck they don't need and spend an insane amount of gas just to do the same grocery-getting that a smaller car could do. It's disappointing how manufacturers aren't making efforts to make trucks safer for others on the road.
What type of accident? Trucks roll and carry more momentum into objects like trees. It's also easier to avoid a potential accident in a small car that can stop and maneuver better than a Truck. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.
FALSE, the FOcus is going 44 mph and the truck is going 23 for a combined 67 mph. And that's a nearly 20 year old small car. Modern cars are WAY safer. Don't be stupid.
A listing of presumed injuries/fatalities would be helpful. It looks like there was enough space in the focus that the dummies didn't "die," but I'll bet they had lower body injuries.
trucks are allowed to not have crumple zones in the United States, where as basic cars have to have crumple zones. When an immovable object meets a crumpling mass, it looks like this...
thats the important thing, the ford focus was rated better in crashtests, but that was just measuring the ratio of weight and strengh. but in total the f 250 is stronger, because it is designed to carry more weight, even though in relativity the focus is stronger
I drive a focus wagon 2000. It's 300 pounds more than this model. I must say large trucks and suv's are more likely to crash in the winter months. Larger cars are not always more safe. Let's see how well this truck does when it spins out into a tree at 40 miles an hour.
That is false. If equipped with 4x4 a large pickup has more traction for engine braking and steering in slippery conditions. A rear wheel drive with no weight in the bed is terrible though, thats why they make tire chains
@@mrsmith2876 4x4 doesn't give you more traction in a spin and it doesn't help you stop any faster in ice/snow. The weight of the 4x4 more than offsets any engine braking you'd get. Most of the vehicles I see spin out on the freeway in ice and snow are 4x4s. Now, lets move to summer months and perform a braking test or a rollover test. In real world scenarios, those heavy, high center of gravity trucks and SUVs flip, roll, carry more momentum for a longer distance and impact stationary objects like trees with much more force. It all depends on the situation you find yourself in. If you're in a head on with a small car in a truck, you're safer. If you're in a head on with a semi, you're pretty much screwed either way. Need to stop fast or maneuver? Hope you're not in a truck.
@@patrickshelley09 I meant compared to a front wheel drive car. Awd is clearly superior to 4x4, but 4x4 beas FWD. I have owned all three and my FWD won't even make it out of my driveway in the snow. AWD is amazing in the snow but noone makes one in a truck heavy enough to tow.
@@patrickshelley09 4x4 and AWD help to spread torque over four wheels instead of two, helping to prevent wheel spin. It also spreads engine braking over four wheels instead of two. Four wheel drive can help steer a vehicle out of a two wheel problem, because of the dynamics of either FWD or RWD. 4x4 and AWD aren't just "getting you moving". If you live where there is snow on the ground 5 months out of the year, you will realize this. Also, on snow and ice, even gravel, weight is your friend. Weight is traction. Light vehicles do very poorly on ice and snow because they lack the weight on tires to give them that grip. RWD cars and trucks have put sandbags over the wheel wells for what reason during ice and snow?
you feel safer until you realize that these sorts of collisions are rare and most vehicular deaths are single vehicle collisions. Heavy vehicles don't fare that well in single vehicle collisions, especially older ones.
My buddy rear ended someone in a Kia who decided to stop right over a hill going 55 in a f350 and the only damage was a cracked grill and a (very) dented bumper
My '03 F-150 5.4 achieves around 12 MPG, but I feel the reward of the risk. I feel okay, but it is rather tight at the wheel, so I can see the sense of their dipped window. Very smart feature.
I'm driving a all American 1987 F150 Pickup truck in Europe. I think I could even deal with a roadtrain at an accident, stepping out of the car and ask for the way...
Yeah, because the solid frame on the F-150 sent more of the impact to the cabin, whereas the unibody Focus absorbed more of it. Judging safety by how easy it is to fix is retarded.
Mike utubesux well you can also see that the air bags in the F-250 kept the occupants safe, where's in the focus the body is crushed in, it'd still likely be fatal, matchup like this, the truck will still almost always win
It didn't hurt that truck but car got destroyed here's why you buy a truck a 2000 f250 super duty 3 quarter ton truck 5/4 saved my dad life ran off road hit tree at 65 mph big truck only thing saved his life thanks ford for saving my father
Everybody be like “Durr the truck is fine”. dude, you can see it bent the trailing arms back, not to mention God knows what other suspension components, and probably their mounting points on the frame as well. so chances are it would be as totaled as the Focus
*Next episode: 80s ford fiesta VS ford excursion towing a house*
Festiva
That's called death
The airbags of the Focus exist simply to ensure an open casket funeral.
Lol 😆
Oh God. Well, in a focus at least you do have a face after a crash.
👌😂👍lmfao!
Sad but true😂
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Found the injury measures on the NHTSA database.
(Driver-Passenger)
F-250:
HIC: 307-433
Chest G: 35-38
Femur Loads: 3594/990 - 127/72 (N).
Focus:
HIC: 1500-1068
Chest G: 86-58
Femur Loads: 6539/7175 - 4671/5729 (N)
The dummies were a 50th percentile male (approx 5'9, 170 lbs) in the driver's seats and a 5th percentile female (approx 5'0, 105 lbs) in the passenger's seats. Per NHTSA's old star rating formula, the Focus's driver would have an 82% risk of severe injury, the F-250's only 5%. In practice this means that a real-life driver of the Focus would probably be severely injured, but would most likely survive. A real-life driver of the F-250 would probably walk away with minor injury at worst. I'm not 100% sure on what forces 5th percentile dummies can withstand compared to 50th percentile, but suffice it to say the passenger of the F-250 would probably have minor injuries and the passenger of the Focus would probably be seriously injured, if not severely injured.
October 20, 2021 4:59 pm
I like your comments, @whattheheck1000 :D
Gotta love how people act like crumple saves you. This literally proves that crumple zones don't mean anything against solid steel and weight
@@bldontmatter5319 Crumple zones are proven engineering. Nothing works against a larger vehicle.
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@@bldontmatter5319 Its not just like that. They do mean, and they help alot. But there is alot of things that go into equation. Heavier vehicle will normally present much bigger damage to the lighter vehicle, and if lighter vehicle did not have crumple zones at all, forces would be even higher. What also helps is to have more solid steel after crumple zones. This car crumpled more than it should. It felt like it was made completely of crumplonium.
I wish that in these videos, they include the dummy sensor values as well.. like the force of whiplash, concussion, bone breakage, etc. That would be spectacular
ChillCosmos I know the IIHS makes that data publically available, so there should be some place for NHTSA
I'll help you out... focus: all dead. F250: occupants walked off to conselling!
Just being a tool. Its a good point but so is the above summary
@@Steve-Mcgarrett those in the f series were hurting. The truck stopped. Severe whiplash at least. Probably occupants either ejecting or submarining TBH
Why? Do you just need to confirm that the Focus driver is dead? Lol
No need here. Driver of that focus died instantly...
*Craigslist ads be like*
2006 F250 gasser, 140k miles, dented bumper, scratches on grille. $5000 OBO, no low ballers, I know what I got.
If it's a 3v Triton they can keep it! If poorly maintained, that thing was a hand grenade on wheels.
5000? Don't see em under 10k
I have one with 350,000 miles on it. Never any issues. Also it's got a utility bed on it and it has been driven very hard all its life.
F250 be a car. Ford trash become 1 with your car
Airbags deployed from hitting a deer, clean title, never smoked in..
"Honey I think we hit a pigeon"
"Nope, I think it was a Focus"
your comment is not funny... sorry 😒
i dont get it
Thats what I drive! :) 2008 model!
Great MPG, PZEV motor puts out 1/10 the emissions for a normal car that gets 32 mpg if maintained well with good fluids. Great car 5* frontal crash rating. Good hp, easily manuvered out of a crash.
I get the symbolism though, lol cars tiny.
Rumour has it the F250 went on a overland trip after this
And tore shit up in the dunes towing the focus behind it while it burned!
A wonderful day it was.
@@andrewharwood7702 lol
...and the focus went to the shredder...
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the focus saved my moms life in an 80mph end over end flipping accident she didnt cause.
God bless. Good to hear. Head ons are 100% worse. Immediate stop.
Holy crap 😳
I think God saved her life. The Focus was just along for the ride.
@@mv5203 nah was the focus
@@endlessroadie3131 disgusting atheist
Hood on the Ford F250 is still good
But crumple zone is destroyed
They’re both Ford’s...
@@White03T4RV82WD you are a genius, it says it in the tittle
the f250 was like what happened
The music is creepy
When I read this, I thought "there's music?" I had to turn mine like 3/4 of the way up to hear anything and shit you ain't kidding.
Physics rocks .... size and weight matter. I'd like to see a newer Mercedes Benz against 1 ton pickup.
Thomas Felch I think mass matters more. But yeah a new Mercedes (or new anything for that matter) will fare much better.
Yet they keep trying to push small cars on us...leave it to the liberals trying to reduce our "carbon footprint"... morons.
1974 F250 I have seen plenty of people die crushed in pickup trucks vs tree. For some reason when it comes to a tree the weight works against the occupants.
The new S Class weighs 4630 lbs
@blabla i would still like to be in the big car :)
A friend's 2002 Excursion had an accident like this (not as servere) at 150,000 miles 10 years ago. It's now at 500,000 miles and still running like a clock.
@unarmed blackman Honestly, that sounds about right. It's over $100 per fillup.
@unarmed blackman yikes indeed. the high fill up price is the only thing he says he doesn't like... probably gonna hold onto it for a time because they're starting to become more and more uncommon and much more desirable.
Holy shit! Mid engine focus!!
lol
The poor little focus never stood a chance
@Avery Allen Depends on the car. A Civic would hold up very well. For comparison : ruclips.net/video/NCelD0qr8Do/видео.html
Yes, the car still takes the brunt of the damage, but at least in a Civic you have a chance at living.. That Focus is 100% guaranteed death. Shit....focus driver got knocked from life so fast they probably missed the onramp to the highway to heaven and had to backtrack.
@@twoeightythreez lol true
@@twoeightythreezthis is beyond incorrect, the F-150 was lowered and was going at a lower speed. Additionally this is the massive F-250. No car would have a chance
Concerning that a young driver can take the wheel of a Corolla during their driving test and once passed, immediately drive off in a f250 super duty.
i definitely think you should need a special license to drive a pickup or large suv. when i was new to driving, i dreaded driving my parents' 07 yukon xl cause it was so big and unwieldy. i felt so much safer driving their civic
If the front tires weren’t exactly lined up it would of been far worse
Next... semi vs f 250
Should have did a collision with a 2015 ford f150 and a 1965 lincoln continental to commemorate 50 years in Ford progress with vehicle safety
Great idea
Stay on the interstate as much as possible fighting a chance of head on collisions all day is not worth it.
Thankfully IIHS has reduced this problem
I still love my little focus, But can confirm that if it’s on a lift you can take your fist and punch dents into the floorboard of an unrusted MKI, Then lower it and stomp the dents back out with your feet.
Based on the crash test footage, My MKI is very likely to get me killed if I ever wreck it, But I’m in love with it, Plus it was free and all my other vehicles get like 15mpg.
Focus owner safety tip. Avoid head on collisions with F250 Super Duty Trucks.
See why been driving Ford Expedition's since 1998, Full Size Blazer/Tahoe's from 1989-1998. Paid off in multiple accidents
F-250 was going aboit half speed of the focus, I think they set it up so that there would be net zero force from the collision
yeah, focus had to make up for the weight difference somehow
There was actually less cabin intrusion/collapse on the Focus than I would have expected.
Its why I drive my Ford F250
What year
As long as you drive that Ford and you don’t think you own the road
The truck is fine you just go back sit down and watch TV
Now let's try the F-250 _Vs_ a *Semi,* and see what happens.
Or a semi vs train
Or F-250 vs a Hummer h1
That happened a few days ago in my town.
A man who JUST retired the day prior was driving to a gulf course, and crossed a free way.
They got T-boned by a semi truck hauling a water tank (not sure if loaded up).
Edit. He was driving an extended cab truck, not sure of exact type, to messed up to tell).
They were both killed on impact.
Looks like the semi went 1/2 way into the cab on the drivers side.
I saw him 3 days prior and he told me we was finally gonna retire……😓
What a way to go.
I just hope it was a quick end……….
the Semi would obviously fuck it up, but the chances of surviving in a F-250 instead of a Civic are still much higher
I'd MUCH rather be in that F250. I don't have an F250 but I do have an E250 Cargo van. Feel pretty safe in it.
Note that the F-250 was going 38 km/h (24 Mph) and the Focus was going 72 km/h (45 Mph). The passenger of the Focus receives a broken neck at 0:33
The reason they used different speeds for the two vehicles is to give them the same momentum, otherwise the wreckage would keep moving after the collision. Momentum is Mass X Velocity, so the F-250 has a mass 72/38 times the mass of the Focus (1.9 times heavier).
My family actually has an f250 that looks nearly like that
Recently it slid into a ditch and destroyed the front end and the sides, did i mention we drove the rest of the trip home? (200 mi)
They never show a realistic crash like 70mph to 70mph
I mean, I know this is a video trying to show you the damage caused by a collision, but for those thinking the car is particularly unsafe... It’s more that the truck weighs 3x as much as the car. The car will take far more damage simply because it is going to be hit with more of an impact than the truck will because the truck only feels the impact from the car while the car feels the impact from the truck... Which is far more.
I will not be buying an old Focus... Considered it but I will no longer do so.
Купляй королу😅
While the accident looks like nothing for the F-250, the energy literally lifted it off the ground
i also noticed the focus is going faster to make up for the weight difference
I hate pickup truck drivers (at least in my area). They buy them "to feel safer" but they arent safer except for certain circumstances like this one. Instead you just seriously injured or killed that guy in the focus. Now they just drive around like they own the road and act like assholes. (it's like a 8 to 1 pickup to car ratio around here)
Yep. Most of them hardly ever haul anything that requires a truck, they don't go off road and they drive like they're in a sports car. Then when they rear end someone because they were following too close or they flip over because they were driving to fast, they can't understand what went wrong. My favorite is when they fly by you on an icy/snowy road, confident in their 4 wheel drive and then several miles down the road you see them off the side of the road after they lost control.
In my area, pick ups are a necessary part of life. Farming and rural life find very good use for a true pickup over an SUV or these modern short box pick ups that are just basically SUV's. Driven correctly, a 4x4 truck is vastly superior to a 2wd vehicle of the same weight rating on ice and snow, and we have a lot of ice and snow.
I think the problem is urban/rural. People in one environment will drive them for a different reason than somewhere else.
The truck comes completely off the ground while the car is driven into the ground.
That 250 will be out of the shop in 2 days and back to pulling shit at the shop in no time. As for the focus, sleep tight at the junkyard buddy.
The driver of the truck had a back ache after this.
The driver of the Focus did not have a back ache, because the driver of the Focus was dead...
Hey at least they got excellent gas mileage with that focus. They can carve that in their tombstone.
Both vehicles were survivable. Just a worse day for the focus passengers. The test also doesn't take into account things like how fast either vehicle can stop or maneuver. I drive for a living and I can tell you I've had several incidents that I could avoid in a small nimble vehicle that would have been accidents in a large truck or SUV. Should we do a roll over test and then put "at least they got to sit up high and haul stuff with that truck" on the tombstone of the truck driver?
@@patrickshelley09 Yes but sudden overcorrections of steering to cause rollovers are a function of your driving ability. If your on a two lane road and the guy in the oncoming lane hits you head on there is not alot you can do about it. If you buy a vehicle that your setting yourself up to always be the smallest guy in a crash then that was your choice. I highly doubt that the Focus driver walked away or could even walk after that crash.
Sitting up high also is more of an advantage while driving. You can see further down the road over other cars, past hills ,signs and embankments all giving you alot more reaction time to slow down and completely avoid what's coming. I was at Ford dealership a few years ago and saw a f350 in the repair lot for the body shop. It had hit a 3ft diameter oak tree at 60 mph. The front end was notched into the engine compartment atleast 3/4 of the way. They told me the driver walked away from it. You could still open the doors . I would much rather have 8ft of steel between myself and an object then 2 of plastic and steel. I own a metal fabricationand welding shop with a 12,000 lb lift to repair trucks and cars in it. I see what minimum amounts of steel they use to " improve your fuel efficiency " .
@@buildthings79 There are times you need to make sudden and sharp steering adjustments. If your choice is hit an object or swerve, you swerve. Sitting up high does give you a visual advantage. But just like over correction is avoidable in most cases, sitting lower down means it's up to the driver to drive correctly when vision is impaired. I've driven small trucks, lifted trucks, large cars and small cars. I'd rather sit back a little and know I can stop or maneuver than be able to see slightly better. You can actually drive correctly and see what's in front of you in a small car. Just takes adjustment.
Your example of the truck hitting the tree is more about the frame construction. A crown vic may have had similar results. I use the example of a crown vic because I lost control when I was younger and t boned a box truck on the freeway. Walked away. I likely wouldn't have lost control in a focus though (FWD vs RWD). But we're still talking about front end collisions. That doesn't factor in side impacts, roll overs or accidents avoided.
My original point is that insulting people for driving a small fuel efficient vehicle is short sighted. When you buy a vehicle, you have to factor in a lot of thing. Fuel econ is very important for a lot of people. I save thousands a year on fuel because I drive a small car instead of an SUV or Truck (not to mention tire cost, insurance, registration, purchase price etc). I've also avoided accidents that I know I wouldn't have avoided in my crown vic, let alone a truck/SUV. I'm talking about accidents that happened in front of me, people suddenly swerving into my lane etc. To clarify, the accidents that happened in front of me were visible to me as they happened and sitting up higher would have given me no advanced warning. When it comes down to it, an accident avoided is much better than having a lot of steel between you and the other vehicle in any accident. And driving a heavy, high center of gravity vehicle makes it much more likely that you'll be in a roll over than I'm likely to be in a head on collision with a truck.
@@patrickshelley09 I would still prefer to be in the Superduty.
@@mattmayo3539 Fair enough. I've driven both and would rather drive the small car as a daily. The amount I drive, it saves me thousands a year in gas and parts (tires, oil etc).
And people wonder why I want to go back to owning a truck
I've been driving for 26 years and never got hit head on by a truck, nor do I personally know anyone who has.
And this is why I drive an F450. Have fun hitting me. I'll be fine. You won't.
I drive a M35a2 and BRDM 2, have fun hitting me, I'll be fine. You won't
The focus has crumple zones while the F250 dissipates energy by jumping.
Any lift kit higher than 3 in and that focus would have been leveled
No kidding
I had a Honda Civic rear end my F-350, the driver admitted to going 45 mph and I was stopped. The lady at the insurance company asked me how I was getting my truck home...told them I was driving it. Honda was smashed clear to the windshield, driver and passenger ok, they had to haul that sucker off. Size does matter!
I'm imagine if this was happened with a car that was more low than a focus, like lambo, ferrari, and other super/sports car
Then they would be flattened
in real life situations lambo would be fine and f250 flip and destroy it self
Corvette
Lamborghini could be safer but idk?
If you look closely at the wheels at the 0:59 second mark, you can see that the wheels of the focus are moving much faster than those of the pickup.
focus has smaller diameter tires and is moving twice as fast to make up for the weight difference
...And that son is why Gas Mileage doesn't mean shit if you're in an accident. Take the truck and live with maybe a backache and a headache, meanwhile, the driver in the focus has two shattered arms and most likely a broken neck causing death upon impact.
The problem is that 90% of people who buy trucks don't do truck things with them. They throw away their money on a big truck they don't need and spend an insane amount of gas just to do the same grocery-getting that a smaller car could do. It's disappointing how manufacturers aren't making efforts to make trucks safer for others on the road.
What type of accident? Trucks roll and carry more momentum into objects like trees. It's also easier to avoid a potential accident in a small car that can stop and maneuver better than a Truck. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.
@@xmrunmake trucks safer as in lighter and smaller? Because that's the issue here
@@alfredosierra2612 man it’s been 3 years I don’t even know
The F-250 then pulled the focus away
Well, they are slightly similiar, the brand for instance
Nothing a little spit and polish can't fix.... They will have to get an alignment on the 250.
Only 23MPH. Wow. Crazy to drive a small car.
alb12345672 it's like driving a car 46 MPH and hit a deformable structure
Well, a small car from 2002 that is going 50 mph towards a parked F250.
FALSE, the FOcus is going 44 mph and the truck is going 23 for a combined 67 mph. And that's a nearly 20 year old small car. Modern cars are WAY safer. Don't be stupid.
This is why i love so much SUVs
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@@ОлександрІвасик-и5о stop bee poor : )
@@ОлександрІвасик-и5оstop be poor
The Focus will need a wheel alignment
It would benefit public safety if they raised the bumper of all cars.
Yes I believe those are called "crossovers" or "CUVs" :)
It's mostly the strong front structure of the truck meeting the soft structure of the hood of a small car
Or lowered the bumper of pickups
F250 it's not a car it is a truck.
A listing of presumed injuries/fatalities would be helpful. It looks like there was enough space in the focus that the dummies didn't "die," but I'll bet they had lower body injuries.
When people try to argue that their smartfortwo scored high on iihs, you show them this.
Hmmm, I think I'll take the truck!!!
Thanks for the information
trucks are allowed to not have crumple zones in the United States, where as basic cars have to have crumple zones. When an immovable object meets a crumpling mass, it looks like this...
Could definitely carry on using the F250
thats the important thing, the ford focus was rated better in crashtests, but that was just measuring the ratio of weight and strengh. but in total the f 250 is stronger, because it is designed to carry more weight, even though in relativity the focus is stronger
I drive a focus wagon 2000. It's 300 pounds more than this model. I must say large trucks and suv's are more likely to crash in the winter months. Larger cars are not always more safe. Let's see how well this truck does when it spins out into a tree at 40 miles an hour.
That is false. If equipped with 4x4 a large pickup has more traction for engine braking and steering in slippery conditions. A rear wheel drive with no weight in the bed is terrible though, thats why they make tire chains
@@mrsmith2876 4x4 doesn't give you more traction in a spin and it doesn't help you stop any faster in ice/snow. The weight of the 4x4 more than offsets any engine braking you'd get. Most of the vehicles I see spin out on the freeway in ice and snow are 4x4s. Now, lets move to summer months and perform a braking test or a rollover test. In real world scenarios, those heavy, high center of gravity trucks and SUVs flip, roll, carry more momentum for a longer distance and impact stationary objects like trees with much more force. It all depends on the situation you find yourself in. If you're in a head on with a small car in a truck, you're safer. If you're in a head on with a semi, you're pretty much screwed either way. Need to stop fast or maneuver? Hope you're not in a truck.
@@patrickshelley09 I meant compared to a front wheel drive car. Awd is clearly superior to 4x4, but 4x4 beas FWD. I have owned all three and my FWD won't even make it out of my driveway in the snow. AWD is amazing in the snow but noone makes one in a truck heavy enough to tow.
@@mrsmith2876 4x4 or AWD only helps you get moving. OP was talking about loosing control on snow or ice. Not how much traction you have initially.
@@patrickshelley09 4x4 and AWD help to spread torque over four wheels instead of two, helping to prevent wheel spin. It also spreads engine braking over four wheels instead of two. Four wheel drive can help steer a vehicle out of a two wheel problem, because of the dynamics of either FWD or RWD.
4x4 and AWD aren't just "getting you moving". If you live where there is snow on the ground 5 months out of the year, you will realize this.
Also, on snow and ice, even gravel, weight is your friend. Weight is traction. Light vehicles do very poorly on ice and snow because they lack the weight on tires to give them that grip. RWD cars and trucks have put sandbags over the wheel wells for what reason during ice and snow?
My father owns one of these, i feel safer lol
Lord Boros yeah mine to but you never know
you feel safer until you realize that these sorts of collisions are rare and most vehicular deaths are single vehicle collisions. Heavy vehicles don't fare that well in single vehicle collisions, especially older ones.
The gen 2 and gen 3 focus does not fold up like the gen 1 in the test. Very misleading and biased test.
These new trucks are so safe man. I used to drive a 87 Silverado steel death trap.
My buddy rear ended someone in a Kia who decided to stop right over a hill going 55 in a f350 and the only damage was a cracked grill and a (very) dented bumper
How about a F250 vs F250?
My '03 F-150 5.4 achieves around 12 MPG, but I feel the reward of the risk. I feel okay, but it is rather tight at the wheel, so I can see the sense of their dipped window. Very smart feature.
I'm driving a all American 1987 F150 Pickup truck in Europe. I think I could even deal with a roadtrain at an accident, stepping out of the car and ask for the way...
Why I drive a lifted ford Excursion with a massive 7.3L Diesel between me and anything I hit!!!!
F250 could've drove back home
When the size of the dog in the fight matters
Just imagine how poor the focus would preform in a small overlap test
WELL???? Did the wipers still work???
And that's why you buy a Ford F-350.
Oh sorry F250.
Talk about David and Goliath.
So this is just a clear example of misaligned bumpers right?
Don’t buy casket on wheels.
My 99 f350 has 490k miles and a ranchhand front and rear bumper to ensure my safety. Lol
In slo motion, that truck had some hang time!
i think the focus was up there a little longer
On top of that a person driving a truck is presumed to be fat and overgrown adding to the mass
F-250 that should be economical to fix.
Focus: *dead*
Yeah, because the solid frame on the F-150 sent more of the impact to the cabin, whereas the unibody Focus absorbed more of it. Judging safety by how easy it is to fix is retarded.
Mike utubesux well you can also see that the air bags in the F-250 kept the occupants safe, where's in the focus the body is crushed in, it'd still likely be fatal, matchup like this, the truck will still almost always win
Yeah that F250 obliterated that Focus
The focus was the f250s crush zone lol
is there a 0-5 safty rating for this truck
Now, what's a Cyber truck do to the car?
I installed a refoced bars on chassis
And what are the odds that they would hit dead center in an uncontrolled environment. Zero percent?
I think I'd go with the f250...
I’ll buy that Ford off you with the conditions it is in for the initial price.
Focus un şasesi kamyonetin altına (boşluğa) denk geldiği için bu kadar hasar aldı sanırım.
Que pongan a esa camioneta con un kenworth T800 PA que vean como se despedaza
The F-250 was briefly airborne!!
It didn't hurt that truck but car got destroyed here's why you buy a truck a 2000 f250 super duty 3 quarter ton truck 5/4 saved my dad life ran off road hit tree at 65 mph big truck only thing saved his life thanks ford for saving my father
One reason i got a f-350
Hammer meet nail.
Everybody be like “Durr the truck is fine”. dude, you can see it bent the trailing arms back, not to mention God knows what other suspension components, and probably their mounting points on the frame as well. so chances are it would be as totaled as the Focus
I think what matters is if the people got totaled!
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When people see this car sales go down, truck sales go up, just stop buying so many truck people, and we will all be safe.