Spot on review, I live in China and bought the TC due to local laws restricting petrol powered bikes, no need for any license or even license plate basically same league as a bicycle, a TC here costs 1 grand to buy and has a cult following with lots of modification options and a lot of aftermarket parts , when you see another one of these in my city it's usually modified heavily, the alarm thing was a fault my alarm unit broke too without any extreme cold but the upgrade was around 20 quid for keyfob startup model ( it's cool to switch it on from a distance)since replacing I never had any problems , the stock tyres are dangerous in the rain and even dry if hitting the corners hard , the socket for battery melted after ripping it full throttle for 25km, I have done over 11,000km without any brake pad or disc issues(apart from slight rubbing noise) I also have issue with battery percentage indicator but was my own fault from DIY wiring as always have 94 error code(too lazy to fix it) , here it's a good bike cheap parts and mechanics are experienced with electric motorbikes, has no service for warranty just a if it breaks they replace sort of deal, the problem is in the UK it's expensive for what it is and a petrol equivalent is much better for the UK Price
Thankyou and that is very interesting how different it is in China, I have been thinking of doing a bit of modifying myself as I know I'm not getting my money back on it now and I refuse to give the place I got it from any more money to "service" it at 90 pounds a pop
Thank you for taking the time to record this real world review, it was really useful as I was considering a TC. I'm going to stick with petrol for now!
I was thinking of getting this but now I changed my mind! Thanks a lots for honest review! RUclips is full of paid reviewers but we need someone like u!
Dude, the perfect review! i was going to buy one for work and back thinking it would literally cost nothing to run and be super reliable! mind changed! Cheers, I will keep the Fireblade for now lol!
Great review Ed. I was considering one of these, after watching your full review I am now in two minds whether to or not. Of course we get “Good and bad” in everything, but being a “New” piece of tech we get nervous about our purchases. I currently use a Stingray for my daily commutes to work and was looking for an electric upgrade. My Stingray hasn’t given any problems, as yet ! But who know what will arise. Again, great honest review. Thanks again, keep up the good work.
Thanks for the great video and the honest opinion! You just saved me a lot of money. I need a bike for work, but I do not think that this one will be able to manage the harsh conditions it should 😅
Best real life review so far - I am guessing this is a Chinese bike so good luck getting bits further down the line. Amongst my bikes I own a Honda FES125 which is mainly used for shopping duties. I fill it up very seldom and it can cover decent distances on one tank. Being a Honda it's got build quality and reliability in spades. It will happily jog along at 65mph and can carry most of Tesco's under the seat. This Soco is clearly a city bike with very limited range, very little power and dubious build quality. Based upon this review I will not bother to see other reviews, this video tell me all I need to know. Well done.
was very helpful this video as i was going to get the tc max from fowlers in bristol but ended up getting a benelli tnt for £1000 less, ive only had it a week now and i believe ive made the right choice, thanks dude
Thanks for an honest real world review, I'm in scotland, kinda hilly, kinda chilly and I was very tempted and on the verge of getting one of these for commuting, I'm gonna get a 125 (petrol) whatever instead.
Great review! My wife purchased a Chinese 125 to learn on & we were disappointed by the very poor quality. But then, you buy cheap you're not going to get much for your money🤔
I liked this review but need to say - I found it also bit negative... what I mean is; mechanical moving parts need maintenance; I drove a an Audi TT and BMW, both needed and I bet patrol bilkes or scooter too...
It's just his actual and personal experience with a vehicle he owned, if something is wrong, it's wrong, so it might be negative but if its factually accurate then it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the very helpful review. Living on a mountainous island the ideal daily transport for me would be something small, cheap to run, quiet, with a bit of pep for the hills, and decent range (50miles / 80Km absolute minimum). On the face of it one of these would be perfect, but sadly real world performance fails on nearly every front. Oh-well, you saved me wasting my money so thank you very much. I'll stick with my mountain bike + large electric hub motor: Far from ideal as practicable and relaxing daily transport but it's robust, has pedals to help with range, and not slow.
I think you'd struggle finding a decent electric bike for a low price that handle hills in comparison to a petrol bike that would do alot more for the price
Thanks a lot for this video. I was looking into these bikes, and you're the first one who didn't just test it for 2 weeks. Not really worth the price. For this that amount I think I'll just have a nice used 600ccm.
That’s what I wish I did, I’m currently in a battle with the company trying to get them to sort my bikes problems out. Isn’t worth the money, time or stress
generally speaking, electronics will shed their problems in the first year. IF it lasts a year, its usually good WELL into the future. Interesting review. The purchase price in AUS seems CRAZY low. I paid 7k for a e-mountain bike that cuts out at 25km/h and has had a multitude of issues........ This is 4.5k DRIVE away.................... Even if it has minor issues, it seems to be EXCEPTIONAL value for money.
Thanks a lot for this review. I find this quite shocking, because this brand pretends to be more than just 'budget'. Having to replace braking disks after 3000 miles shouldn't be considered normal in my opinion.
i have problem with my tc did you unlocked it i was trying but i can t do it. Do someone know i don t mind going 45 km/h and yes i was trying to do with theese films
I realise I’m a bit late to this party, but thanks for a straightforward and open review of the machine. I’m partly typing this to tweak the algorithm, but also I wonder what you did with it… I’ll check your later videos. Right, I think no e-motorcycle for me then! Les
You are very welcome and thank you for the algorithm boost. Genuinely makes a big difference. It has been a while so there might be some better e motorcycled now I like the look of the horwin personally, however I am currently using a petrol bike and I can't see it having any competition for the price and range
@Edward Peak Thank You Edward it was a Great Review. I was interesting to buy this electric bike. I am still interesting to find a cheap decent electric bike. I want to find a model with portable batteries and having at least 120 kilometres autonomy. I dont have money to spend more than 3.000€. Is it any model that you know with this specs?
I think for that kind of range you are going to struggle at the moment, I don't think there is such a thing as a cheap electric bike unfortunately. Give it a few years however and this should change
I haven't looked at the new model but I can safely say if they haven't improved the overall build quality it still wouldn't be worth it. Mine isn't that old and the accelerator grip is wobbling with the bolt not tightening when turned, and I've had to have a make re attach the rear light box and license plate as it has just shaken off from normal riding
Any update on this a year later? 40 years in electronics has taught me to be wary of complicated systems. I built some simple ebikes that I love and super reiable but I am wanting a faster electric motor bike soon.
Currently it's not on the road as when the government cancelled all tests due to covid I couldn't get my motorcycle license and my CBT ran out. In all honesty I'm scared to try and turn it on again
@@edwardpeak01 thats a shame, hope you get licence soon. I have full bike licence but not ridden for about 12 years due to starting a family and the dangers of biking seemed an unfair selfish thing to risk when family relied on me but I'm older now and thinking about starting up again because I've missed it.
Thank you for a great review, telling truth. I'm from Estonia and this summer will be availability to rent these Soco in this country, looks like they woun't last long
At least if you are renting it you won't have to worry about getting it fixed if something goes wrong and can see how it is yourself, I'd just avoid committing to it
I have a Suzuki Inazuma 250cc. It has a nice soft ride for city use, gets 80 mpg, can keep up with expressway traffic and has been very reliable. Yeah, I had a break in service but it's been oil changes since then. I can highly recommend this to you if you want a reliable bike that can handle some speed but still get outstanding gas mileage. Otherwise a maxi-scooter like the Yamaha XMax which is a 300cc bike in the States.
I really got hyped about this motorbike because, here in Czech republic, you can drive motorbikes up to 11kW/125cc (A1) with cars driving license, only it is required to not have manual gearbox. And its pretty much only scooters and electric motorbikes. But for the price (currently about 125k Czk or 4 273 pounds) I should probably invest time in proper motorbikes driving license instead (A2 up to 35kW) and get myself something more powerful :)
Is the bike still a bad choise or is it something that i should consider nowadays. I thought the nowaday bike should have some upgrades so what you said dosent happen, or do you think its still the same?
I haven't kept up too closely with electric motorcycles since my first one but I have seen what looked like a newer model in a bike shop window so perhaps they have fixed some issues id like to think that they have. Another thing I have noticed is there are alot more alternatives, I am currently abroad and have seen a bike looking very similar to the super soco tc but by a different company. So at least now there are more options.
I really enjoyed this review. I live on the Greek island of Rhodes. There is one for sale here, 1 year old, 3,500km on clock. He wants 2000 euros for it. I don't need to go at 70mph, piddling around here at 40-50km/h is OK. I like the idea of an electric bike but after watching this review I am a little nervous about the idea now. There are no 'motorways' here, just smaller roads, the guy selling it has bought a 300cc Piaggio petrol scooter because he needs to drive 75km down the island and then back again on a regular basis. He's saying it will go 70-80km on 1 charge. What do you think? Would it be OK for rolling around here or should I be cautious?
45Commando personally I’d say it’s definitely a nice bike for slow calm rides that’s how I use mine atm. However his prediction on range seems pretty optimistic, it does depend massively on how fast you go and how flat the ground is and how much you weigh for example I’m 12 stone and it just about does 40-45 on a flat.I’m assuming he hasn’t put a second battery in so I’ll say when I used mine for work I went at full speed (40 -45mph) and encountered one or two hills and it pulled off about 25-30 miles. Now if you went at about 30mph you could achieve a greater distance and even more at 20mph but no one goes that slow. It’s fun don’t get me wrong but don’t buy it if loosing the money spent on it would be a big problem as like I show in a another video I did on this bike it does have problems and won’t achieve what a cheaper 125cc bike would
Sevgili dostum Türkiye’den selamlar…Size tavsiyem Modenas GT 128 almanız olur bende var çok memnunum aslen Kawasaki marka patentlidir bu super soco bizim ülkede 3000 dolar civarı satılıyor tipi çok hoş görünüyor ama menzil~hız vs. yetersiz gibi…
Is the Super Soco TC 2023 model worth it for 2000 pounds "factory new"? It is usually priced at 3000 pounds here, but due to new models coming out there is a sale. Considering the Sur-ron Light Bee X instead, but its quite pricey at 3800 pounds
I was hoping it might have come down in price a bit more, provided they have improved it a bit and you don't live somewhere very hilly or somewhere with fast roads then maybe. But you'll probably always be better off with a standard Honda 125. I can't speak for any newer bikes I like the look and I want to think they are good but I'm not sure
Tnx, great review. I better stick with my electric unicycle and besides my car bying a petrol bike. Like a phone, these electric things are just an expensive sort of hobby. But it looks great though ...
Very good, honest review. I did look seriously at these last year but all things considered I bought a Honda PCX. I also came to the conclusion that running costs may not work out cheaper over time, and aside from your experiences from ownership I was concerned that battery warranty was 3 years, and as they naturally lose charge capacity it could be 75% from new level by then limiting range by a quarter. Factoring in replacing, from memory batteries are £900? Then I was allowing £300 a year budget, but that is way more than I use on my PCX which does 120mpg. Shame really, as I like the idea and check occasionally to see owners reviews, but maybe in the future would consider. Thanks again for the review.
Cheers mate. Yeah unfortunately with this bike the costs are too high to justify it. I have been looking at other options myself and I have seen another bike called a Horwin but It’s £5000 and even at that price I just don’t know if the technology is there yet to give us a decent affordable electric bike.
hello i'm 16years old and searching for a bike like that, its just for distances like 20-30 km, would you reccomend buying this one or do you think an other one is better?
I'd look at a small engine petrol bike it'll be alot cheaper and alot more reliable than this. Especially for your first bike I think from a safety point of view a petrol bike would be better as then people will hear you coming
Traded it in for a petrol bike but the rear light / license plate holder fell apart from normal riding so the cheap plastic construction didn't hold up well. The accelerator grip also was wobbling with no way of tightening it
From what I've seen the TC MAX is an actual motorcycle with a separate in-frame motor and a belt drive. It still doesn't have the power of a Zero, but then it's half to a third of the price of the Zero lineup, and it's still powerful enough to use as you would a 125. The TC on the other hand is intended as the electric equivalent of a 50cc moped, with less power and quite a lot less torque than the MAX. Sure looks a hell of a lot nicer than your average 50cc moped though :D
Tor Ivan Boine I have just read about this, basically the uk version of the bike doesn’t have the coms module that you need to use the app. I wasn’t told my bike could work with an app but I’ve read others have been told that it does work with an app, even tho in the uk the bikes don’t have the part required to use it. It’s a weird one
Hi, you still got the bike and fixed something? , got some software upgrade? I'm thinking on a tc max, 2 weeks ago arrive a distributor and don't know what's to do lol, see good and bad things on the web
I still own the bike but basically will now have it until I can no longer repair it on my own as I refuse to give the dealer any more money. I haven't had a good experience with the company but there does seem to be more options for electric bikes coming out. I personally like the look of the horwin but haven't had a chance to see what it's like in person.
@@edwardpeak01 what a shame, but the bike isnt on warranty? They told me i got 1 year of warranty on the country and 2 on the factory, and yeah here we got the horwin cr6 but is more expensive and its almost the same as the TC max, even the CR6 loose some perks.
@@edwardpeak01 Hey there! I watched your video because I'm curious about electric (motor-)bikes/bicycles in general. After watching, I'm really glad I didn't order this and went for a 'Brekr' (Dutch company). Im curious what you think, they are vids all over youtube (in Dutch im afraid). It looks like they used more robust materials for the brakes and I believe it does have a motor-brake. Downside is that it is more expensive than the Super Soco.
So, the replacement of the brake disc is on you. If you don't replace the brake pads in time, the disk is going to get damaged. That's going to happen regardless of whether it's electric or not. If you just replace the brake pads, it's a reasonable cost.
Not at freaking 3000 miles on an electric bike. The breaking should happen as soon as you stop accelerating and should even involve brake pads or disks. I this case I’m almost sure he bought the bike with used/trashed brake pads.
I would say it depends, it will do some hills at 30 but you will find on a steep hill it will drop to about 20 or 15 for extremely steep hills. Also bare in mind on a lower charge it will handle hills worst. For example I drive it around Bristol and it can handle more moderate ones but the road that snakes up the hill under the suspension bridge makes it crawl along at about 20 - 25 mph
@@edwardpeak01 Thanks Edward, yes as I thought. I brought an electric motorscooter 8 years ago which was 1500 watts. It was fine on the flat but it actually stalled on city hills. I just think Ubco need to be clear about the bikes limitations because some people may not realise just how much power can vary from flats to hills on e bikes. The Ubco folk havnt done much on city hill climbing from my readings.
The power output of the Super Soco TC is only 1500W. My Zero 10X electric scooter has a 1,000W motor in each wheel giving it 2,000W minimum and 3,200W peak and it weighs only 33kg. It will out accelerate most cars from the traffic lights and keep up with them on normal roads. Plus I can ride in bike lanes, bike trails and foot paths as well and they’re more fun to ride. I’d recommend one of these.
I was about to buy two, for me and the wife. But your video made really good points. From looking at the comments, your video already lost the company a fuck ton of money. Surprised they haven’t reach out to “sponsor” you. Or at least make it up for the joke that it was the whole brake story.
Thankyou, my own was nothing but a pain the ass most of the time but I'm hoping they have worked out the bugs in it. If your someone who just needs something for very short distances and don't live near any hills perhaps it's an option. But like I say it depends on what the current models are like if they are the same as my own I wouldn't bother and just get a little honda or something like that
It's scary on a dual carriageway as it's so slow wouldn't reckonmend doing it. I do still have it but only because I have struggled to get rid of it. I'll keep it and try and get my money's worth from it untill it eventually breaks down in the not so distant future
I love everything about this bike, even took it for a test ride. One thing that stopped me from buying it is just that top speed issue. I dont think its practical for me to have a bike that doesn't atleast go 120km especially at the price range its at. I think i will stick to the petrol system until they fix the speed and range issues
I think you'd struggle depending on how big both were. But up a hill with just me on it it struggled to go past 20 when it's steep so personally I wouldn't
Exactly my thoughts as well. I'm seriously considering getting this bike and swapping out the motor and batteries, basically just getting it so that all the paperworks checks out.
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Spot on review, I live in China and bought the TC due to local laws restricting petrol powered bikes, no need for any license or even license plate basically same league as a bicycle, a TC here costs 1 grand to buy and has a cult following with lots of modification options and a lot of aftermarket parts , when you see another one of these in my city it's usually modified heavily, the alarm thing was a fault my alarm unit broke too without any extreme cold but the upgrade was around 20 quid for keyfob startup model ( it's cool to switch it on from a distance)since replacing I never had any problems , the stock tyres are dangerous in the rain and even dry if hitting the corners hard , the socket for battery melted after ripping it full throttle for 25km, I have done over 11,000km without any brake pad or disc issues(apart from slight rubbing noise) I also have issue with battery percentage indicator but was my own fault from DIY wiring as always have 94 error code(too lazy to fix it) , here it's a good bike cheap parts and mechanics are experienced with electric motorbikes, has no service for warranty just a if it breaks they replace sort of deal, the problem is in the UK it's expensive for what it is and a petrol equivalent is much better for the UK Price
Thankyou and that is very interesting how different it is in China, I have been thinking of doing a bit of modifying myself as I know I'm not getting my money back on it now and I refuse to give the place I got it from any more money to "service" it at 90 pounds a pop
damn thats cheap , cost 3600 usd in norway
So far cheapest place i can find it in canada is 6000 usd
hello, please tell me if it is considered a bicycle in south korea?
Thank you for taking the time to record this real world review, it was really useful as I was considering a TC. I'm going to stick with petrol for now!
I was thinking of getting this but now I changed my mind! Thanks a lots for honest review! RUclips is full of paid reviewers but we need someone like u!
I was planning to buy one this electric bikes and thanks goodness saw your video mate. It’s super honest, precisely long enough to watch. Thank you.
Just rode a friend's Super soco TS and got quite hyped about it. Thanks for the really honest review and grounding me back to reality 😂🤜🏻🤛🏻
I recommend other reviews too which are quit positive ;)
Very good review, well done , informative and helpful. Lesson learnt- wait for established owners comments and experiences.
Was looking at possibly getting one of these, thanks for the thorough review =)
Nice balanced and thoughtful review, kudos young man.
Get a volt meter or cheap volt display to tell what the battery charge is. Pulse and coast to a stop will save brakes and increase range
Dude, the perfect review! i was going to buy one for work and back thinking it would literally cost nothing to run and be super reliable! mind changed! Cheers, I will keep the Fireblade for now lol!
Was the same with me! I also did not find any honest reviews about this bike.
Absolutely the same situation. Want to buy one for work and back. But after this i look at this bike like extra transport.
This is a fantastic review. Thank you for taking the time.
This is a great review, deserves way more views.
I couldn't agree more. What a great, extensive, honest review!
Informative thank you! Just confirmed my concerns no savings if I go for electricity over 125cc
Great review Ed. I was considering one of these, after watching your full review I am now in two minds whether to or not. Of course we get “Good and bad” in everything, but being a “New” piece of tech we get nervous about our purchases. I currently use a Stingray for my daily commutes to work and was looking for an electric upgrade. My Stingray hasn’t given any problems, as yet ! But who know what will arise. Again, great honest review. Thanks again, keep up the good work.
Hi Phillip! Do you mean this Stingray? Your answer would help me.
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Thanks for the great video and the honest opinion! You just saved me a lot of money. I need a bike for work, but I do not think that this one will be able to manage the harsh conditions it should 😅
yeah im sticking with my 1500w regular converted bicycle... thanks for the heads up man...
Thanks dude you helped me to decide if i am going to buy it.. Very good review
Thanks for a good review. I had some questions. and I got more info than I needed :)
Very helpful review. Thanks for taking the time.
Best real life review so far - I am guessing this is a Chinese bike so good luck getting bits further down the line. Amongst my bikes I own a Honda FES125 which is mainly used for shopping duties. I fill it up very seldom and it can cover decent distances on one tank. Being a Honda it's got build quality and reliability in spades. It will happily jog along at 65mph and can carry most of Tesco's under the seat. This Soco is clearly a city bike with very limited range, very little power and dubious build quality. Based upon this review I will not bother to see other reviews, this video tell me all I need to know. Well done.
Great little review. Thanks Edward!
Thanks for this honest review, it helps a lot
Amazing review, thank you for the heads up and info. One of the best reviews I’ve seen
You are very welcome 😁
was very helpful this video as i was going to get the tc max from fowlers in bristol but ended up getting a benelli tnt for £1000 less, ive only had it a week now and i believe ive made the right choice, thanks dude
Thanks for this fact check on the state of electric bikes. I had no idea, now I have a good sense of their limitations, thanks.
Great review, mate, honest and to the point. Big Thumbs up
Great review and love the fact you included burning through that red light :P
I've had this comment a few times, if you look at that bit the red light is for the traffic going forward and doesn't included the left turn I made.
Cracking good review. 👍
Thank you for the informative review!
More content on this #SuperSoco please!
I was thinking about buying this.But you changed my mind.Thank you for honest review
You are welcome
Good review thanks. Was considering one for my short commute but would rather buy a used thirsty bike!
Wouldn't mind a video estimatemating fuel savings of an equivalent 125/110 of your commutes and use over time.
Thank you for this honest review, you just saved me $$$
Thanks for an honest review🇺🇸
Thanks for an honest real world review, I'm in scotland, kinda hilly, kinda chilly and I was very tempted and on the verge of getting one of these for commuting, I'm gonna get a 125 (petrol) whatever instead.
smart move it struggles on hills, combine that with low temps and you are not in for a good time
A honest review, thank you for this! Just what some ones that thinks buying one of these needs to know before proceeding.
I nearly bought this bike today THANK YOU!!!!!~
Great review!
My wife purchased a Chinese 125 to learn on & we were disappointed by the very poor quality. But then, you buy cheap you're not going to get much for your money🤔
Thank youfor the honest information. I just got mine a few weeks ago. I'm gonna see how she's going to hold up.
Do you have a more updated model? I made this video a long time ago im hoping the new ones are better
Excellent review. Thank you.
Great review brother🙏
I liked this review but need to say - I found it also bit negative... what I mean is; mechanical moving parts need maintenance; I drove a an Audi TT and BMW, both needed and I bet patrol bilkes or scooter too...
It's just his actual and personal experience with a vehicle he owned, if something is wrong, it's wrong, so it might be negative but if its factually accurate then it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the honest review... Appreciate so much...
Thanks for the very helpful review.
Living on a mountainous island the ideal daily transport for me would be something small, cheap to run, quiet, with a bit of pep for the hills, and decent range (50miles / 80Km absolute minimum). On the face of it one of these would be perfect, but sadly real world performance fails on nearly every front.
Oh-well, you saved me wasting my money so thank you very much.
I'll stick with my mountain bike + large electric hub motor: Far from ideal as practicable and relaxing daily transport but it's robust, has pedals to help with range, and not slow.
I think you'd struggle finding a decent electric bike for a low price that handle hills in comparison to a petrol bike that would do alot more for the price
I haven't heard great things about this version of Super Socco - have you ever tried the 125cc?
Such a beautifull bike and yet not expensive
I loved that😃👌
Thanks a lot for this video. I was looking into these bikes, and you're the first one who didn't just test it for 2 weeks. Not really worth the price. For this that amount I think I'll just have a nice used 600ccm.
That’s what I wish I did, I’m currently in a battle with the company trying to get them to sort my bikes problems out. Isn’t worth the money, time or stress
generally speaking, electronics will shed their problems in the first year. IF it lasts a year, its usually good WELL into the future. Interesting review. The purchase price in AUS seems CRAZY low. I paid 7k for a e-mountain bike that cuts out at 25km/h and has had a multitude of issues........ This is 4.5k DRIVE away.................... Even if it has minor issues, it seems to be EXCEPTIONAL value for money.
Yeah brilliant review mate
Thanks a lot for this review. I find this quite shocking, because this brand pretends to be more than just 'budget'. Having to replace braking disks after 3000 miles shouldn't be considered normal in my opinion.
Electrics are heavier than petrol and you can upgrade discs to better version
Thanks mate,this was eyeopening to me,just like i suspected.
Thank you for your sincere review on this bike
Your welcome
Thank you for your help.Cheers.Subscribed.
i have problem with my tc did you unlocked it i was trying but i can t do it. Do someone know i don t mind going 45 km/h and yes i was trying to do with theese films
I realise I’m a bit late to this party, but thanks for a straightforward and open review of the machine. I’m partly typing this to tweak the algorithm, but also I wonder what you did with it… I’ll check your later videos. Right, I think no e-motorcycle for me then! Les
You are very welcome and thank you for the algorithm boost. Genuinely makes a big difference. It has been a while so there might be some better e motorcycled now I like the look of the horwin personally, however I am currently using a petrol bike and I can't see it having any competition for the price and range
@Edward Peak
Thank You Edward it was a Great Review.
I was interesting to buy this electric bike.
I am still interesting to find a cheap decent electric bike.
I want to find a model with portable batteries and having at least 120 kilometres autonomy.
I dont have money to spend more than 3.000€.
Is it any model that you know with this specs?
I think for that kind of range you are going to struggle at the moment, I don't think there is such a thing as a cheap electric bike unfortunately. Give it a few years however and this should change
Thank you for this wonderful review. There is new 2021 model. Would you say is better deal now? Does it have enough improvements... bigger battery etc
I haven't looked at the new model but I can safely say if they haven't improved the overall build quality it still wouldn't be worth it. Mine isn't that old and the accelerator grip is wobbling with the bolt not tightening when turned, and I've had to have a make re attach the rear light box and license plate as it has just shaken off from normal riding
Awesome, honest review.
Thanks You change my mind I’m not buying the junk appreciate your video 🇩🇿👏👏👏
Any update on this a year later?
40 years in electronics has taught me to be wary of complicated systems.
I built some simple ebikes that I love and super reiable but I am wanting a faster electric motor bike soon.
Currently it's not on the road as when the government cancelled all tests due to covid I couldn't get my motorcycle license and my CBT ran out. In all honesty I'm scared to try and turn it on again
@@edwardpeak01 thats a shame, hope you get licence soon.
I have full bike licence but not ridden for about 12 years due to starting a family and the dangers of biking seemed an unfair selfish thing to risk when family relied on me but I'm older now and thinking about starting up again because I've missed it.
Thank you for the review..
Thank you for a great review, telling truth. I'm from Estonia and this summer will be availability to rent these Soco in this country, looks like they woun't last long
At least if you are renting it you won't have to worry about getting it fixed if something goes wrong and can see how it is yourself, I'd just avoid committing to it
So you wouldnt take on a passanger on this one?
Great review
I have a Suzuki Inazuma 250cc. It has a nice soft ride for city use, gets 80 mpg, can keep up with expressway traffic and has been very reliable. Yeah, I had a break in service but it's been oil changes since then. I can highly recommend this to you if you want a reliable bike that can handle some speed but still get outstanding gas mileage. Otherwise a maxi-scooter like the Yamaha XMax which is a 300cc bike in the States.
That sounds good to me I'll look it up cheers
bike looks awesome they keep producing better bikes cant wait to get mine
I hope so it's been a few years let me know if they are better
A scary yet thorough review. Good and bad points all noted.
I really got hyped about this motorbike because, here in Czech republic, you can drive motorbikes up to 11kW/125cc (A1) with cars driving license, only it is required to not have manual gearbox. And its pretty much only scooters and electric motorbikes.
But for the price (currently about 125k Czk or 4 273 pounds) I should probably invest time in proper motorbikes driving license instead (A2 up to 35kW) and get myself something more powerful :)
thanks for this brother
The break wear and tear is almost definitely to do with how it's being ridden. Start breaking earlier and you will see a huge difference.
Cool video man
why the charging cable has a stupig 90 degrees angle lol.
Ok... but what would a petrol alternative?
Is the bike still a bad choise or is it something that i should consider nowadays. I thought the nowaday bike should have some upgrades so what you said dosent happen, or do you think its still the same?
I haven't kept up too closely with electric motorcycles since my first one but I have seen what looked like a newer model in a bike shop window so perhaps they have fixed some issues id like to think that they have. Another thing I have noticed is there are alot more alternatives, I am currently abroad and have seen a bike looking very similar to the super soco tc but by a different company.
So at least now there are more options.
I really enjoyed this review. I live on the Greek island of Rhodes. There is one for sale here, 1 year old, 3,500km on clock. He wants 2000 euros for it. I don't need to go at 70mph, piddling around here at 40-50km/h is OK. I like the idea of an electric bike but after watching this review I am a little nervous about the idea now. There are no 'motorways' here, just smaller roads, the guy selling it has bought a 300cc Piaggio petrol scooter because he needs to drive 75km down the island and then back again on a regular basis. He's saying it will go 70-80km on 1 charge. What do you think? Would it be OK for rolling around here or should I be cautious?
45Commando personally I’d say it’s definitely a nice bike for slow calm rides that’s how I use mine atm. However his prediction on range seems pretty optimistic, it does depend massively on how fast you go and how flat the ground is and how much you weigh for example I’m 12 stone and it just about does 40-45 on a flat.I’m assuming he hasn’t put a second battery in so I’ll say when I used mine for work I went at full speed (40 -45mph) and encountered one or two hills and it pulled off about 25-30 miles. Now if you went at about 30mph you could achieve a greater distance and even more at 20mph but no one goes that slow. It’s fun don’t get me wrong but don’t buy it if loosing the money spent on it would be a big problem as like I show in a another video I did on this bike it does have problems and won’t achieve what a cheaper 125cc bike would
Sevgili dostum Türkiye’den selamlar…Size tavsiyem Modenas GT 128 almanız olur bende var çok memnunum aslen Kawasaki marka patentlidir bu super soco bizim ülkede 3000 dolar civarı satılıyor tipi çok hoş görünüyor ama menzil~hız vs. yetersiz gibi…
Is the Super Soco TC 2023 model worth it for 2000 pounds "factory new"? It is usually priced at 3000 pounds here, but due to new models coming out there is a sale. Considering the Sur-ron Light Bee X instead, but its quite pricey at 3800 pounds
I was hoping it might have come down in price a bit more, provided they have improved it a bit and you don't live somewhere very hilly or somewhere with fast roads then maybe. But you'll probably always be better off with a standard Honda 125. I can't speak for any newer bikes I like the look and I want to think they are good but I'm not sure
Im Looking at getting the zero s 14.4 11kw
Pity. At least with an eBike you can always change out the controller. Ghere are not many elwectric components
Tnx, great review. I better stick with my electric unicycle and besides my car bying a petrol bike. Like a phone, these electric things are just an expensive sort of hobby. But it looks great though ...
How can I unlock the speed limit?
What the battery version? Battery size?
Very good, honest review. I did look seriously at these last year but all things considered I bought a Honda PCX. I also came to the conclusion that running costs may not work out cheaper over time, and aside from your experiences from ownership I was concerned that battery warranty was 3 years, and as they naturally lose charge capacity it could be 75% from new level by then limiting range by a quarter. Factoring in replacing, from memory batteries are £900? Then I was allowing £300 a year budget, but that is way more than I use on my PCX which does 120mpg. Shame really, as I like the idea and check occasionally to see owners reviews, but maybe in the future would consider. Thanks again for the review.
Cheers mate. Yeah unfortunately with this bike the costs are too high to justify it. I have been looking at other options myself and I have seen another bike called a Horwin but It’s £5000 and even at that price I just don’t know if the technology is there yet to give us a decent affordable electric bike.
Hey bud, great vid! Through my research this bike is restricted to 30mph. Can this be derestricted??
There is an option to take that off and it will do about 40
hello i'm 16years old and searching for a bike like that, its just for distances like 20-30 km, would you reccomend buying this one or do you think an other one is better?
I'd look at a small engine petrol bike it'll be alot cheaper and alot more reliable than this. Especially for your first bike I think from a safety point of view a petrol bike would be better as then people will hear you coming
Any updates? How is it performing after a couple of years?
Traded it in for a petrol bike but the rear light / license plate holder fell apart from normal riding so the cheap plastic construction didn't hold up well. The accelerator grip also was wobbling with no way of tightening it
I'm aiming for the TC MAX once this lockdown is over!
Melvin Bartolome sameeee
From what I’ve heard it’s only slightly faster in speed but acceleration is quicker and hopefully they sort the bugs out in the newer model
From what I've seen the TC MAX is an actual motorcycle with a separate in-frame motor and a belt drive. It still doesn't have the power of a Zero, but then it's half to a third of the price of the Zero lineup, and it's still powerful enough to use as you would a 125. The TC on the other hand is intended as the electric equivalent of a 50cc moped, with less power and quite a lot less torque than the MAX. Sure looks a hell of a lot nicer than your average 50cc moped though :D
Have you gotten the app to work?
My friend just bought it, but couldn't find the IMEI number for the app.
Tor Ivan Boine I have just read about this, basically the uk version of the bike doesn’t have the coms module that you need to use the app. I wasn’t told my bike could work with an app but I’ve read others have been told that it does work with an app, even tho in the uk the bikes don’t have the part required to use it. It’s a weird one
@@edwardpeak01 thanks. App support would be nice though.
Soooo when it goes to park mode when you're at half throttle... Itll just lock up? Im not sure i understand. That sounds super dangerous!
It's a bug that basically stops you from being able to throttle forward which yes is very dangerous/nerve wrecking the first time it happens on a hill
Hi, you still got the bike and fixed something? , got some software upgrade? I'm thinking on a tc max, 2 weeks ago arrive a distributor and don't know what's to do lol, see good and bad things on the web
I still own the bike but basically will now have it until I can no longer repair it on my own as I refuse to give the dealer any more money. I haven't had a good experience with the company but there does seem to be more options for electric bikes coming out. I personally like the look of the horwin but haven't had a chance to see what it's like in person.
@@edwardpeak01 what a shame, but the bike isnt on warranty? They told me i got 1 year of warranty on the country and 2 on the factory, and yeah here we got the horwin cr6 but is more expensive and its almost the same as the TC max, even the CR6 loose some perks.
@@edwardpeak01 Hey there! I watched your video because I'm curious about electric (motor-)bikes/bicycles in general. After watching, I'm really glad I didn't order this and went for a 'Brekr' (Dutch company). Im curious what you think, they are vids all over youtube (in Dutch im afraid). It looks like they used more robust materials for the brakes and I believe it does have a motor-brake. Downside is that it is more expensive than the Super Soco.
So, the replacement of the brake disc is on you. If you don't replace the brake pads in time, the disk is going to get damaged. That's going to happen regardless of whether it's electric or not. If you just replace the brake pads, it's a reasonable cost.
Not at freaking 3000 miles on an electric bike.
The breaking should happen as soon as you stop accelerating and should even involve brake pads or disks.
I this case I’m almost sure he bought the bike with used/trashed brake pads.
Hi there, do you think it could do 30mph on city hills of average steepness or are you over on the shoulder annoying car commuters?
I would say it depends, it will do some hills at 30 but you will find on a steep hill it will drop to about 20 or 15 for extremely steep hills. Also bare in mind on a lower charge it will handle hills worst. For example I drive it around Bristol and it can handle more moderate ones but the road that snakes up the hill under the suspension bridge makes it crawl along at about 20 - 25 mph
@@edwardpeak01 Thanks Edward, yes as I thought. I brought an electric motorscooter 8 years ago which was 1500 watts. It was fine on the flat but it actually stalled on city hills. I just think Ubco need to be clear about the bikes limitations because some people may not realise just how much power can vary from flats to hills on e bikes. The Ubco folk havnt done much on city hill climbing from my readings.
The power output of the Super Soco TC is only 1500W. My Zero 10X electric scooter has a 1,000W motor in each wheel giving it 2,000W minimum and 3,200W peak and it weighs only 33kg. It will out accelerate most cars from the traffic lights and keep up with them on normal roads. Plus I can ride in bike lanes, bike trails and foot paths as well and they’re more fun to ride. I’d recommend one of these.
I was about to buy two, for me and the wife.
But your video made really good points.
From looking at the comments, your video already lost the company a fuck ton of money. Surprised they haven’t reach out to “sponsor” you. Or at least make it up for the joke that it was the whole brake story.
Good review, even tho u said it had some problems would u say its still worth it??
Thankyou, my own was nothing but a pain the ass most of the time but I'm hoping they have worked out the bugs in it. If your someone who just needs something for very short distances and don't live near any hills perhaps it's an option.
But like I say it depends on what the current models are like if they are the same as my own I wouldn't bother and just get a little honda or something like that
You used the bike on a dual carriageway, how did it handle. Do you still have the bike?
It's scary on a dual carriageway as it's so slow wouldn't reckonmend doing it. I do still have it but only because I have struggled to get rid of it. I'll keep it and try and get my money's worth from it untill it eventually breaks down in the not so distant future
I love everything about this bike, even took it for a test ride. One thing that stopped me from buying it is just that top speed issue. I dont think its practical for me to have a bike that doesn't atleast go 120km especially at the price range its at. I think i will stick to the petrol system until they fix the speed and range issues
There is Tc max version for that. I dont know if they sell it over there.
@@atabayman4722 they do now 😁 2021
Price out some ebikes with top speeds of 32kmh and this becomes a bargain.
Hello there, I have a question: " Is this motorbike suitable for 2 riders?" Thanx in advance!
I think you'd struggle depending on how big both were. But up a hill with just me on it it struggled to go past 20 when it's steep so personally I wouldn't
How fast does that go?
Do you need a motor-bike driving license?
Or is a car driving license sufficient?
Xid RK in the uk you’ll need a cbt training course
@@edwardpeak01 Wow! Thank you. I wonder whether I need this in Italy as well.
This bike seems like it would be good for a hobbyist, I'd upgrade it myself and put in 8k motor with regen & beef up the batteries
Exactly my thoughts as well. I'm seriously considering getting this bike and swapping out the motor and batteries, basically just getting it so that all the paperworks checks out.
@@bob95180 have u bought it?
such reviews prove that we dont need 300km range or 200kmph EV.
100-150mm with 80kmph will do 90% of our travels.