I'm sorry to hear that you had problem with the Ka11, dear Andy. I got one for my iphone about one month ago and it works perfectly, but I didn't upgrade to the new firmware. To be honest with you, I didn't even know that there was a new firmware. At this point, I think that I won't make any updates. "If ain't broke don't fix it", you know. Thank you as ever. You're the best around! Greetings from Italy.
Hi there, I’m thinking about getting one for my iPhone as well. How has been your experience with it, it is still not heating up until now? Have a great day.
I appreciate you sharing this. The heat issue was also my problem with the 7Hz 71. Once it got too hot, it would get a static popping. I retired it, and have been using other gear. I recently ordered the KA17, and am looking forward to it.
im still using it but i have not upgrade the firmware since I got it. already heard about the updates issues way back. i really like it its powerful used it few times it does heats up maybe because of its power.
I bought the KA 11 and i have absolute no issues with it. Tidal works,UAPP works and on PC Win 11 Pro works flawless. Also the Fiio app works well on Android.I have Xiaomi 13 phone. Perhaps is something wrong with your unit...It heats up but not on a extreme level. Similatr to the Ifi GoLink. maibe a bit more but nothing to worry about.
I've had no problems with connectivity on my android version. I love the sound & power from the small form factor. It does get hot but I'm not going to attempt the firmware update. Hopefully, fiio will come up with a solution soon
I hoped ka11 will be a budget banger but no it is int and Andy saved us ... if issues fixed sooner or later please make your dongle madness style video.. I almost decided to buy it in 1st week of April ..
That is very disappointing seeing as I love Fiio products. All my DAC amps are Fiio and luckily have all worked perfectly for me. Hopefully Fiio will issue a fix soon or a complete replacement. Good luck sir!
It's something to do with developer #2 Sound engine of system firmware of smartphone with usb dac configuration, for instance I'm using Xiaomi Poco X6 Pro Which has Got 3 sound otm - Dolby , Xiaomi Immersion and Original and System bypass through UAPP and Hiby app won't help with Streaming services. It's like a bug
I used to love FiiO products as well but their firmware and customer support sucks. So far I've had: KA3 - gave it away as it picks up loads of interference, BTR7 - firmware was buggy and unstable even after updates, K7 - became an expensive paper weight because support literally ghosted me. It has an issue with volume dropping to 0 and going back up intermittently. 3 strikes for FiiO in my book.
Mine works about half the time with my s24 ultra. Some days it will blink its light when plugged in one way, i flip the usbc and no light. Both times the phone shows 'usb device connected'. Other days it just works. It always works on my s7 tablet though. I have tried restarting the s24, turning it off completely, nothing seems to work except waiting some undeterminate amount of time, at least hours
Ive seen people say its getting extremely hot when used. No surprise with that tiny form factor and that amount of power tbh. Its a matter of time that thing will be fried
hmmm i guess the issues are all on android? its my first FIIO product that i bought and chose the lightning version (IPHONE USER) just plug and play, tho the heating part is there
I've purchsed myself one and waiting for delivery, i even have the same xperia 1 iv so maybe it's better to avoid the app or something... wish me luck :D
@@AndyAudioVault That'd be nice, because my aux input is a little glitchy. I cleaned it but still has some balancing problems on different volume levels
How about BTR15? When i connect it to TIDAL exclusive mode, only MQA files are working properly. When i play HiRes 24-bit and 16-bit? No playback or sometimes very low output where you barely hear anything. BTR15 also has random disconnection even using UAPP and Neutron app. I'm using LG G8 before and now Sony Xperia 1 ii but the issue still the same
@@AndyAudioVault yes bro, that's what i thought and already told FiiO about this issue. I thought the issue is the cable so i bought a new cable but still same issue on my LG and Sony phone both A12. But now i use it to my old Samsung A8 2018 running A10 and looks okay. No sudden disconnection. So i think the issue was with compatibility on the phone system maybe
Saya guna di s24 ultra cuma 2x sahaja dan lepas tu terus senyap dan tiada sambungan..yang pelik nya saya cuba 3 jenis handphone yang berlainan,ianya berkerja dengan baik pula. Puas cari solusi di dalam phone s24 tetapi tetap tiada sambungan.. jalan buntu sehingga malam ini..baru beli.. Adakah pihak fiio akan buat sesuatu? Alatan ini bagi saya sudah cukup baik dan sesuai untuk menunggang motor sambil Layan lagu,ermmmm sedih.. Fiio..sedih
@@AndyAudioVault firmware v 0.04. - In exclusive mode in UAPP volume is to the max and You can't lower it. In non exclusive mode (Direct) works great and volume is adjustable. - When using android driver (Spotify) dongle works good, maybe that is why iphone users don't have problems (when using phone OS drivers). - As for heat I feel that should be expected with 200mW in a small case. If I unplug the headphones or DAC and replug it right away DAC is not reccognized, but after cca 15 minutes of waiting while being unpluged it is recognized and working again. 🤨🤔 After your video I won't be updating to v 0.08. Thank You.
I would say just be wary of the risk, I think if you are not having issues now, you should wait for more recent updates which I think FiiO will release
You can try updating the FW first, if still the same then you have the same issues I mentioned in this video of which a warranty claim is the only option left
Didn't have much time to compare closely before my KA11 started to malfunction. I can say the overall sound tuning is similar to KA13 and DAWN Pro, being linear neutral and well balanced, which is a very good thing
@@AndyAudioVault now a serious question as QC of Ka11 might be bad. Is spending a bit more for dwan pro is better option than getting Ka11. As I like the form factor of Abigail etc. Because it's just like a extension of wire.
@@AndyAudioVault i received KA11 today. It has no issue. It gets warm like 7hz 71. Sound is good. Should I keep it or return it and get dawn pro. Btw mine Ka11 shipped with stock 0.08 firmware. And it detected nicely.
@@AndyAudioVault untuk bro lah kan.. iem apa yang value bawah 400? saya nak cari vocal smooth dengan soundstage agak wide dri earbuds yg sama harga,bass dan treble saya tak kesah
seems to me they're more worried about sales and releasing products at super fast pace (for the same reason) than actually releasing fully functioning, tried and tested products. Recently it seems every product they release makes the customers beta testers.
Thankyou Andy I'll put this dongle on backburner until the issue is resolved 🙏🏼
I've been testing the Fiio KA13. Thanks for your well presented reviews.
My pleasure
I'm sorry to hear that you had problem with the Ka11, dear Andy. I got one for my iphone about one month ago and it works perfectly, but I didn't upgrade to the new firmware. To be honest with you, I didn't even know that there was a new firmware. At this point, I think that I won't make any updates. "If ain't broke don't fix it", you know. Thank you as ever. You're the best around! Greetings from Italy.
Grazie my friend. If it ain't broken, keep it rolling 😁
Hi there, I’m thinking about getting one for my iPhone as well. How has been your experience with it, it is still not heating up until now? Have a great day.
I appreciate you sharing this. The heat issue was also my problem with the 7Hz 71. Once it got too hot, it would get a static popping. I retired it, and have been using other gear. I recently ordered the KA17, and am looking forward to it.
Glad it helped
im still using it but i have not upgrade the firmware since I got it. already heard about the updates issues way back. i really like it its powerful used it few times it does heats up maybe because of its power.
Thanks for the honest video. 👍I was thinking about getting it. Decided to get Moondrop Dawn pro instead which was on sale for usd$35, just $5 more.
I bought the KA 11 and i have absolute no issues with it. Tidal works,UAPP works and on PC Win 11 Pro works flawless. Also the Fiio app works well on Android.I have Xiaomi 13 phone. Perhaps is something wrong with your unit...It heats up but not on a extreme level. Similatr to the Ifi GoLink. maibe a bit more but nothing to worry about.
Thanks for keeping us informed. I have two (one at home and another in my travel case). No issues with my iPad Pro.
My pleasure
Fiio came out with a JA11 dongle with Jade Audio. Looks like a bang for bucks like the VE ODO! Look forward to your review on that!
Looking forward to JA11 too
not working on android
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I've had no problems with connectivity on my android version. I love the sound & power from the small form factor.
It does get hot but I'm not going to attempt the firmware update.
Hopefully, fiio will come up with a solution soon
Small size + high power = heating.
After update it turns off for a moment sometimes while playing. So, i wait for new update.
I hoped ka11 will be a budget banger but no it is int and Andy saved us ... if issues fixed sooner or later please make your dongle madness style video.. I almost decided to buy it in 1st week of April ..
Me too
Just ordered the KA17 can't wait to see it's power.
Too powerful compared to size. Maybe it is getting itself into a protective mode or somethin?😅
Perhaps
thermal throttling?
nope thats not it
That is very disappointing seeing as I love Fiio products. All my DAC amps are Fiio and luckily have all worked perfectly for me. Hopefully Fiio will issue a fix soon or a complete replacement. Good luck sir!
Thanks! 😁
It's something to do with developer #2 Sound engine of system firmware of smartphone with usb dac configuration, for instance I'm using Xiaomi Poco X6 Pro Which has Got 3 sound otm - Dolby , Xiaomi Immersion and Original and System bypass through UAPP and Hiby app won't help with Streaming services. It's like a bug
I used to love FiiO products as well but their firmware and customer support sucks.
So far I've had:
KA3 - gave it away as it picks up loads of interference,
BTR7 - firmware was buggy and unstable even after updates,
K7 - became an expensive paper weight because support literally ghosted me. It has an issue with volume dropping to 0 and going back up intermittently.
3 strikes for FiiO in my book.
Mine works about half the time with my s24 ultra. Some days it will blink its light when plugged in one way, i flip the usbc and no light. Both times the phone shows 'usb device connected'. Other days it just works. It always works on my s7 tablet though. I have tried restarting the s24, turning it off completely, nothing seems to work except waiting some undeterminate amount of time, at least hours
I have a Ka11 and it heats up too much. After a week playing with it. It's now making some noise when audio starts playing. Like what?
Faulty unit. Get FiiO to replace it
@donglemadness I've changed oversampled filter options and it stopped overheating. Its not making anymore noise
To which option buddy?
My ka11 stopped working just 2 days after a successful firmware upgrade to the 0.08. She worked for 2 days but now is no longer detected 😢
🥲
same story, mine only worked maximum 4-5 hours, did you found any solution for that
Ive seen people say its getting extremely hot when used. No surprise with that tiny form factor and that amount of power tbh. Its a matter of time that thing will be fried
makes sense, with so little real estate, not much surface for the power to dissipate
hmmm i guess the issues are all on android? its my first FIIO product that i bought and chose the lightning version (IPHONE USER) just plug and play, tho the heating part is there
The issues persists on Android (two of my Android phones and also my PC) as noted in the footnotes of this video
I've purchsed myself one and waiting for delivery, i even have the same xperia 1 iv so maybe it's better to avoid the app or something... wish me luck :D
You might get lucky and have a properly functioning KA11
@@AndyAudioVault That'd be nice, because my aux input is a little glitchy. I cleaned it but still has some balancing problems on different volume levels
How was it? Any problems with stock/after firmware update?
Pity. What would you recommend as an alternative to KA11? I'm looking for something that has a small form factor and is similarly priced or cheaper.
There's always Hidizs SD2
@@AndyAudioVaultNot a fan of its shape.
@@szch664 FiiO KA3.. Moondrop Dawn.. 🤷🏼♂️
How about BTR15? When i connect it to TIDAL exclusive mode, only MQA files are working properly. When i play HiRes 24-bit and 16-bit? No playback or sometimes very low output where you barely hear anything. BTR15 also has random disconnection even using UAPP and Neutron app. I'm using LG G8 before and now Sony Xperia 1 ii but the issue still the same
That sounds like faulty unit to me, it should not behave that way. If I am in your place I would already be asking FiiO Support about it
@@AndyAudioVault yes bro, that's what i thought and already told FiiO about this issue. I thought the issue is the cable so i bought a new cable but still same issue on my LG and Sony phone both A12. But now i use it to my old Samsung A8 2018 running A10 and looks okay. No sudden disconnection. So i think the issue was with compatibility on the phone system maybe
Saya guna di s24 ultra cuma 2x sahaja dan lepas tu terus senyap dan tiada sambungan..yang pelik nya saya cuba 3 jenis handphone yang berlainan,ianya berkerja dengan baik pula. Puas cari solusi di dalam phone s24 tetapi tetap tiada sambungan.. jalan buntu sehingga malam ini..baru beli..
Adakah pihak fiio akan buat sesuatu? Alatan ini bagi saya sudah cukup baik dan sesuai untuk menunggang motor sambil
Layan lagu,ermmmm sedih..
Fiio..sedih
My also stopped working after one album of listening and PC and android doesn't recognize it's plugged in anymore.
Hmm, seems like FiiO really need to address these issues
@@AndyAudioVault firmware v 0.04.
- In exclusive mode in UAPP volume is to the max and You can't lower it. In non exclusive mode (Direct) works great and volume is adjustable.
- When using android driver (Spotify) dongle works good, maybe that is why iphone users don't have problems (when using phone OS drivers).
- As for heat I feel that should be expected with 200mW in a small case.
If I unplug the headphones or DAC and replug it right away DAC is not reccognized, but after cca 15 minutes of waiting
while being unpluged it is recognized and working again. 🤨🤔
After your video I won't be updating to v 0.08.
Thank You.
Thank you for the video. I am still on fw 0.04, so what you say is do not update?
On this dongle it lacks bass a bit, what should I do?
I would say just be wary of the risk, I think if you are not having issues now, you should wait for more recent updates which I think FiiO will release
Saya punya pon tak dengar audio, elok beberapa jam je pastu rosak
Sedih....
If using a single-ended port, will the sound output be similar to KA13?
From my limited time while it was working, yes it can match KA13 sound wise
what do you suggest ? I got issues where the sound shuts off and heats up.
50 bux gone down the drain. any alternatives you suggest ? I am new to these dongles I am falling back to a crappy ali express dongle.
You can try updating the FW first, if still the same then you have the same issues I mentioned in this video of which a warranty claim is the only option left
hello again! would like to ask if this had no issues, would you say the sound quality is better, on par, or worse tan te dc03 pro?
DC03Pro is superior in every way vs KA11. No, my KA11 is still unusable
@@AndyAudioVault thanks! I was almost tempted by a 25 usd ka11, got a 30 usd dc03 pro instead
Just soundwise nothing else. How is compare to Moondrop Dawn Pro & KA13 from Fiio.
Just sound wise.
Thanks in advance
Didn't have much time to compare closely before my KA11 started to malfunction. I can say the overall sound tuning is similar to KA13 and DAWN Pro, being linear neutral and well balanced, which is a very good thing
@@AndyAudioVault thanks
@@AndyAudioVault now a serious question as QC of Ka11 might be bad. Is spending a bit more for dwan pro is better option than getting Ka11. As I like the form factor of Abigail etc. Because it's just like a extension of wire.
@@AndyAudioVault i received KA11 today. It has no issue. It gets warm like 7hz 71. Sound is good. Should I keep it or return it and get dawn pro.
Btw mine Ka11 shipped with stock 0.08 firmware. And it detected nicely.
FiiO X Jade Audio - KA11 consume more battery while connect to a phone?
Yes it will because it has huge driving power
@@AndyAudioVault after seeing the firmware update problem should go for fiio?
If not can you suggest budget catagory hires dac.
Adakah rekomendasi budget dac untuk tripowin x hbb mele, ke arah suara yang sedikit bright?
Get Hidizs S3 Pro if you want bright upper Mids to Treble, or HIBY FC3
Moondrop dawn pro
Can i use it with hifiman 1000 se with my Samsung s22 ultra phone ??
I can't recommend KA11 as it failed on me, especially not for demanding headphones, KA11 will overheat and then likely fail
DDHiFi
Hi-Res DAC , is it good ?
There's many ddHiFi DAC, most of them are also really good
@@AndyAudioVault the starting 24$ ddhifi hi-res dac , how is that?
saya ada jumpa fiio ni kat shopee harga 150,tapi lepas tengok ni macam ragu² pulak nak angkat. Dac apa yg okay bawah harga 150?for beginner
JCally JM10 pun dah cun sgt dah, bawah RM150
@@AndyAudioVault untuk bro lah kan.. iem apa yang value bawah 400? saya nak cari vocal smooth dengan soundstage agak wide dri earbuds yg sama harga,bass dan treble saya tak kesah
Unfortunately Fiio is just bad at making software. My Q15 still has broken PEQ even after software updates.
seems to me they're more worried about sales and releasing products at super fast pace (for the same reason) than actually releasing fully functioning, tried and tested products. Recently it seems every product they release makes the customers beta testers.
Fiio ka01 its better so?
From what I have tried so far, KA11 is more powerful and better tuned than KA01
damn such a shame
this dac looked promising to me especially coming from Fiio
I am trying to get another unit. Let's see how this goes
@@AndyAudioVault hopefully the next unit is better
Has rhere been a software fix for this yet
No
Do you know desoldering scheme?
Nope, I have no idea on that one
Nice t shirt sarcófago
🤘🏼🖤
@@AndyAudioVault Brazilian madness! Also first thing I have noticed on your video, so congrats in the shrit selection in the AM :D