Is There More To Remco & Pogačar’s Friendship? + More Fluff Ups... - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage 17
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Highlights and discussion from Stage 17 of the Tour de France 2024.
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As you can see in the media, we Eritreans are crazy about cycling 😁. I would like to thank you for what you said about Biniam. We are always following you and I cannot express the joy we feel when you describe Bini so well. Thank you so much🙏. Lots of love from an Eritrean fan✌️🇪🇷
You're one of the elite then? Does the Eritrean government even allow it's broader citizenry bikes?
Lovely to See Ed !
Hope to See a regular Podcast Episode as well
That Strava comment is the most parasocial thing I've seen in cycling. Pog knows what he's doing, and making friends in the peleton has always been a tactic. Also, Remco might be the favorite for the last TT, but he's not gaining 5 minutes in one TT
Favorit for last Tt is Tadej.
@@Pipe_JLexactly.....on flat tt Remco would be a favorite but on a hilly tt I don't think so...
The strava comment is hilarious, what a joker 😂
@@Pipe_JL50/50 plus I don’t think Tadej wants to go full risk 110% on last stage with a several minute gap
@@RedGunBullets I didn't think Tadej would attack for a couple of seconds either. I wouldn't be surprised if he went full out just for the fun of it
Jonas has already said that he doesn’t care about second place… He has already won twice. Nothing but the win matters to him. That’s why he didn’t care about Remco getting away in the end, he just didn’t want to loose time on Pogacar
I dont think that if remco attacks, Jonas will let him go…….
@@carlosandres280 he will if trying to follow means he'll give Pogacar a wheel..he's fighting for first and that means risking his second place
@@johnkirk1772 nah today it was proven he is riding to be second
This is why I love Pog and Remco. No more boring, calculated racing that puts you to sleep faster than a lullaby. Thanks to them, I actually want to watch every stage instead of just using it as background noise for my naps! And watch out for the fireworks on the last TT stage-Remco's gunning for second place like it's a rocket launch!
PS
Hats off to those podcast hosts who love to hate on Pog. It's delightful to hear them munching on their own words like a surprise snack!
These young riders have brought back desire that was lost for so long by the ground and pound of ineos
Awesome to have Ed on the show! Hope to see more interaction between the two channels
Thank you all for a great pod cast very enjoyable 😊
Producer Emily is my favourite person in here
Thanks Ed , Emily , and Jimmi......you are all so good !!
Was so exited when I saw Ed, what a guest. Great stuff
me too! love Ed
Nice to see ed , full on legend and a beast on a bike 🤟 , pog is definitely putting on a show very impressive what that man can do , kinda feel abit sorry for Jonas , it's damage limitation for him now
It's hard to put into words just how much my wife and I are enjoying these race-day podcasts. You two + your special guest(s) put on the best summary of that days stage of anyone on the Internet. To be completely honest, I think all of your videos and podcasts are the best cycling related content out there. I enjoy GNC, I watch some of Lance's stuff, I listen to Chris Horner, Phil Gaimon is also very enjoyable...but I eagerly anticipate [with giddy levels of excitement] not only these daily summaries, but also the weekly "Wild Ones Podcast" and Cade Media content in general. On a side note, both myself and my wife have watched all of your summaries, and yet, each time we hear Emily's voice say "Day" with such a dry, monotone voice at the end of "Fluff up of the...", we can't help but look at each other and laugh...it still cracks us up each time we hear it, and we have now heard it 17 times.
I came into this tour pulling for Jonas, and not really a fan of Pogecar. However, after watching, Pog has quickly become one of my favorite cyclists, he is an amazing athlete, friendly outgoing personality, and displays exemplary sportsmanship (as does Jonas). The rivalry between them is something special to watch, I feel lucky to witness, and they are both far better than everyone else. Still pulling for Jonas, however, I will be just as happy to see Pog win.
Huge fan, and so great to see a mix of guests. Even more so to see ed on!
Need to put the "waiting for Pogacar to crack" thing to rest. The implosion last year was after Jonas had destroyed him in the TT after he had put up a solid time. I believe the day he experienced after was in the main part a complete mental break in response to the previous day. You can only be as good as you think you are. His mindset after the season he's had this year is completely different.
This is a second EP I ever seen of this podcast, and I'm REALLY starting to like it. The quality is very high, and you are all exceptional podcasters! Well done! I've been watching The MOVE for the last 3,4 years, I think I'm going to switch though, as you don't have 5+min of ads..
Good to see you hooking up with ed !! Hope to see more of this collaboration
Good guy Ed #ChippingAway
😂😂😂 that chipping way comment from Jimmi didn't age well 😂😂😂
Love seeing Ed on here!
EF was on the precipice of losing world tour status. That shouldn't be an issue after this TdF.
that's not how it works, its all about points
EF is not even close to losing world tour status. They're solidly ahead of Arkea and Astana in the relegation rankings. Even if they were close to relegation, a few stage top 10s and a stage win wouldn't save them. It's not all about the TdF. You have to be consistent all year to stay high in the world tour rankings.
@desmoMarco91 They were last year. Obviously they changed that with results. I didn't just make it up.
@@davidspagnolo4870They were last year.
@@johndoiron9615 Last year wasn't even a relegation year. It was the first year of the 2023 to 2026 relegation cycle. Points from 2023, 2024, and 2025 are considered for who gets a world tour license in the 2026 to 2029 cycle.
Originally you were talking about how it affected their relegation battle this year, now you're talking about their relegation battle last year. Which one is it?
In reality they couldn't have been relegated either year. They could be relegated at the end of next year, but they're pretty far ahead of Astana and Arkea for the current 3 year cycle so they're probably completely fine.
You're probably referring to how they were almost relegated at the end of 2022 for the 2020 to 2023 cycle.
Please use more roping off of fans, especially on the mountain climbs! It’s a safety issue.
Remco and Pog are the same type of bike racers, aggressive and have a ton of panache. Even if they were going against each other on a head to head, the would have outmost respect for each other. It's a shared mentality, you only really understand that if you've raced before.
Will they compete in the Olympics? Remco might get him if the terrain suits him…
@@satchieis8289 Yes, they're both going. Belgium is sending a 4 man team with Remco, Wout Van Aert, Jasper Stuyven and Tiesj Benoot, so that looks very good. It's likely between them and the Dutch with Van Der Poel.
@@satchieis8289 Good racers race on everything not nit pic,thats BS ,thats how you get to be an E.Merckx instead of wait & see whining
Love that Cavendish BURN!
Yay Ed. Good to see you get Ed on your podcast.
If Vingegaard doesn't find a teammate after after he was dropped by Pogačar and Remco, he would have lost a lot more time.
Remco pulled him back on because Laporte wasn't closing the gap and WVA did little to help after the bridge either.
The ‘no balls’ comment by Remco against Jonas definitely stirred the pot
Pog lives in Monaco and definitely knows each square meter of the TT course
Roglic and Kuss are surely missed by Visma. The trio used to toy with Pogi to the point of exhaustion. Now he is only focused on Jonas and having fun .
Don't think roglic makes a huge difference, Jonas won last year by 5 minutes with no roglic, but kuss, van barle, van Hooydonck, wout in great shape, they surely could make a difference.
Wout is definitely not the same as last year.
Ed!! Proper racing snake especially up hill!!
When Pog attacked near the finish line, it was just superhuman. Ving tried to answer, but Pog created such distance in such a short amount of time, it was like he was on a motorcycle and Ving was on a tricycle. That had to be extremely demoralizing for Ving, as if he needed another example that he's not on Pog's level right now.
Any Chance of getting Sir Wiggo as a guest? Was great at the Move with Wedu. Would be willing to donate for that
Wiggo would be bored with these amateurs.
Not that Ed isnt a great guest. Just thinking ahead and Wiggo has such a great Tour history knowledge
Lieber @Gerald, there is always room for improvement. As there is with your keyboard warrior comments
Definitly one tdf thats not to be missed...🔥💣
Ps > Its a pleasure watching u all comment on tdf stages🤘
The Stage 21 TT course brings Remco back to Pogacar because of the amount of climbing in it.
I think that GC will be decided at Friday with little correction at Sunday.
If this was a bad day for jonas then fair play to him . Those 10min climbs is perfect for remco and pog . So for him to only lose like 12 sec to remco is good . He can thank his team for that
Fluff up goes to Ed today. No way did they use electric fences… 😂
Chipping chipping chipping away by pogi😂😂
Seen it awile back that pogi & remco dont like fishboys constant wheelsucking,when he refused to work a few stages ago that was it...nobody likes a WHEELSUCKER
Pogacar and Remco friends? It’s simply your enemy’s enemy is your friend.
I think, in a way, Tadej's friendly attitude is as effective of a mind game as the stone-faced "fierce rival" act. Giving his competition high fives, candy and hugs after they just stomped each other's faces in, like he's enjoying every second of it, is good sportsmanship, but also a total power move.
Em is adorable :)
The breakaway was allowed to go because Pog and team wasn’t interested in the stage.
But it is fun when Pog attacks 10m behind the tete.
Woooo ❤
Nice to see Pogacar and Remco being good sports to each other. Us spectators tend to forget that these people are real humans, not characters in a drama.
Im a jonas fan but i must be honest i love pocagar also and hes taken this ride to the cleaners he's so entertaining hats of to Tornado tadi
On the TT: it's Pogi's hometurf - basically his backyard ...
Anybody besides me miss Frances Cade on Cade Media?
Yes - thought he would feature as he was a team cyclist. Maybe his personal issues (his dad is very i’lI think)needs his attention more
@@jonathanmedforth5678 could be.
Or off seeing his wife...or both...
Fab show... keep it up 😉
YES ed laverack
Well imagine you are another rider (like Vin) - you probably always think "oh no, there is a cat 2 or 3 in the end. He will go again 😭 again no easy stage"
Unless you are the strongest rider this has to be horrible.
Didn’t the break win both of the first two stages? Definitely not the first time an escape has won in this tour
Fluff up: the top banner actually says " get WEEL soon" 😅
Hahahaaaa 😂😂 didn’t even notice that
In the Giro, Pog was annoyed with his competitors for not making more of a race of it. If Pog smells blood, he will go for the kill!
We people from flanders know Remco verry well, He will always tells you whats on his mind ! He is the same as pogacar even of the same level . They both like to attack . This year Remco came to the tour to learn !! !! His ambition was ending in the top 5 afther his big crash in the bask country... Last years vuelta Remco alreddy shows what he can do !! he dominated the last week. It is much easyer to brake persons down than up.
Its because Remco is telling whats on his mind lots of belgium people dont like remco . Considder Remco the absolute number 2 of the world, the only man who could beat Pogacar in anny race ... When he was only 22 he won alreddy 50 prof races !!! Wich cycling racer can tell this story ????
Ed owns a shirt 🤫
Tadej and Remco conspired against Jonas. Tadej attacked and made Jonas work hard to respond just to reveal that he was tired and then Remco attacked him.
edmode in the house wut wut wut
Ed fullgazzz ❤❤❤
can you make Cuts in the video so we can go to one section of the video if we just want to hear one part of like what happened until you have to listen to the whole podcast and have a nice day
12:57 LOL I think Adam Smith is making a joke there 😂😂😂
Jimmy knows nothing about cycling 😂#spoofdog
Ed and Ex pro? 😂 pretty low bar set there. RUclipsr who races dads in their basements, whilst lecturing his chat why he lost - is a more accurate description
Maybe Tadej or his team are telling him to pad his lead in case of a crash or mechanical especially in the time trial,
Fluff up of the week tune is far too catchy. I was humming it all night last night.
Remco needs to get to within 45 seconds over Vingo to have a crack at 2nd place. I'd be hard pressed to imagine, even with his TT prowess, that he beats a motivated Pog on Pog's home roads in the final stage. Week 1 i'd expect Remco to win for sure, week 3, stage 21, not so certain of an outcome.
Did you see Bin his the man? Yesterday You said. game over
Yeah, Martin kind of rode into that flagwaver, but I don't understand these "fans" that aren't even looking at the riders. I mean the group was coming up there right then, and you're looking the other way?
I think Tadej and Remco are using each other and the friendship is for show... Tadej wants as much time on Jonas as possible and Remco wants to gain time on Jonas... so each benefits the other with their attacks... I think the smiles and banter is for cameras and I believe they both just want Jonas to fail...
Green jersey would have been more interesting if a certain rider involved didnt get disqualified in a sprint lol!!
Could say the same of Bini’s relegation at that intermediate, bend in the road right before the sprint makes the decision a toss-up. I think the standings are fairly accurate to the level each sprinter is at right now
Edddddddd!!!
11:32 Sorry, but Remco attacked two times already the most notorius one was in the gravel stage where after he told that JV didn’t have the balls…
Different when it’s on a flat road vs uphill. The energy expenditure before the attack is different also but you are right it wasn’t the “first time” he’d attacked
@@edlaverack agreed, but an attack is an attack, don’t you agree?! Of course is not the same to do it in a Mountain and do it in a hill, but Remco is attacking more than JV, I’m a fan of JV, but he just ups the tempo, it’s never an all out attack like Remco and Pogacar.
@@ralvesco yes, I agree with that. Remco is attacking more than JV mainly because JV rides defensively/on the limit. But JV has been responding directly to Pog, which essentially is the same effort. Remco just rides his pace when dropped rather than responding, until yesterday off
Emily is dreamy ❤❤❤
Pogi could easily take the stage today. One thing about his attacking is that he tried to tell other breakaway teams that today's stage was a gift to your guys so please don't complain to us any more.
Earned> deserved
#EDMODE
It’s a break stage, because Jonas doesn’t have the legs to get any time on Pogi or Remco in a Stage like that…
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Remco's Haribos could be spiked...😉
BiNi BiNi 🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷💪💪
did people forget the first two stages were won by breakaways?
Remco, I'm still hold my breath. Remco looked good, but Friday, Saturday, Sunday.. is back to back tough high mountain. I'm sure VL will ride hard to tire Remco. Just like in Vuelta.
I don't think Jonas will fade, he is the best fatique resistance rider in the world. It will be interesting on Fri/Sat, if VL will ride hard to tire Pog and at the same time Remco.
Pogacar is looking for a super domestique
You said that at the beginning of this tour you were pro-Gacar. Yes, that was true-but after that little uphill sprint Jonas "won," you jumped off his bandwagon so fast you nearly broke your ankles. Now you realize that hopping from one bandwagon to another mid-race isn't exactly a safe sport. Face it, you weren't pro-Gacar; you were just pro-bandwagon!
Another episode from the Pogacar Show.
Yeah man go and start The Alexey Lutsenko Show I’m sure it’ll be great.
Seems like Jonas doesn't care if he's 2nd or 3rd.
Who Owen Green jersey talk about that
Guy in check shirt looks like jordi😅😂😂.... If u know u know
A fellow man of culture I see
Remember Laurent Fignon time trial
were all living in pogs world lets be honest
Tomorrow is the perfect day for WVA or MVDP - MVDP will probably also get the freedom from his team so my money is on him
Do these hosts do any homework before they get on and just start saying stuff?
5:11: "It is the first time that we actually saw Vingo. go backward." What?
5:48: In regard to Evanpoel overtaking 1st. "Wait there is the TT stage at the end?" There's no way Evanpoel can pull 5 min off of Pog unless Pog crashes or gets ill.
5:56: "Pog is not a bad time trialist by any stretch of the imagination." Did you see him beat F. Ganna in the Giro on a TT? Or only lose 12 s to Evanpoel in the first TT?
lots of reactionary and incorrect statements on this pod over the course of the last three weeks, I understand that inflammatory and divisive statements bring attention but it’s kind of aggravating
Absolutely unnecessary from Tadej to make an attack today. It only seems like he is in accord with Remco to make Jonas suffer unnecessarily too. For me it was kind of disgusting to see that approach, more when later Remco attacked to provoke Jonas to follow him. They wanted to kill him, and just like some sadistic tactic just for fun. I didn't like it at all.
That’s racing
Hatrock, I guess competitive sport is not for everyone.
How does a Pog come out day after day and produce an outstanding ride..... weetabix? 🤔
Almost like they've been training for this their entire lives.
@@JanneBernards Agreed. Almost.
It did appear as if Pog could have gone with Remco or passed him and wanted Remco to take time on Jonas
If Pog had not jumped JV at the finish Remco gains another 10-15 seconds. And then WVA helped JV make it to the line.
Brilliant observation Mate.
It was tiesj Benoot though in the end .
Im vingegaard fan but pogacar is like anime protagonist. Trying to do things the hard way sometimes just bcus of his morals
His name's not pronounced Vin-ge-go, it's Vin-ge-gore.
Tomorrow's stage. Same as today. Break and pog will attack anything that rides a bike in the last 10k. Maybe he'll have a bad day and bonk and lose 5 mins....
I disagree. Bring a showman isn't entertaining to me. One, if you win from 50K out, it's BORING. Two, for me, it's less showman and more show-OFF, which I find grating. He has a jock bully persona.
Jimmy, the greatest cyclist of all time is Eddy Merckx! 501 wins, Pogaca is not going to beat that!!!!! Merckx was unique and will never be surpassed!!!!
Greatest road cyclist...........
@@Andy_ATB The only type that matters.