I was part of the Toronto Hardcore scene during the early 2000s. It was a great time to be around. I feel like the scene died by the 2010s as shows dried up. I wouldn’t have traded that time of my life for anything. It still resonates as the only time that I felt like I belonged somewhere.
I’ve watched this documentary 4 time on your website. And now I’m here watching it again on RUclips. I’m not a hardcore fan, but I do love local history and documentaries about Minnesota history. It was “first avenue: closer to the stars” that made me want to learn more about Minnesota musicians. Thank you TPT for all the great Minnesota documentaries you put out. I appreciate all the hard work that is done by everyone that helps put these together
These are so well done. HUGELY appreciate that these have been made. - I was down near Madison WI at the time but your scene came down our way a lot. We bonded a lot more with Minneapolis than say Chicago.
I’ll say it again, do one of these on us from the thrash and metal scene. Just like Minneapolis media, we were always ignored. Powermad, Soilent Green, Coup De Grace!
I agree. I grew up in the St.Paul/ Mpls. Hardcore scene and am grateful for them showcasing our time and culture. I seem to recall some cross-over between thrash metal and punk in the scene then too; certain shows drew both subcultures together. Can't recall many band names, that was nearly 40 years ago. Though I do recall seeing Coup De Grace perform at the Northern Lights record store on Hennepin Ave and 7th Street., Downtown Mpls. around the same time. There was a lot of natural cross-over between the two scenes, I think. Seems like they exuded some of the same energy and purpose.
Hi... In the early 80.s, we(bunch of north german Punks).. toke a Camping Trip to Denmark.. We got about 300 beer cans and 2 tapes.. 😁1 Bad Brains+1x Die toten Hosen(.. Now a succesful German Band) this burned in Our brain.. Here in Germany we hanged up in Squatts or Main places.. It was a very, very aggressive scene.. Now the Punk scene, s less violent. Try some german stuff:"Slime-komm schon klar,,. /.. ZSK-Es müßte immer Musik da sein"....
Corrosion Of Conformity is from my state of NC...its soo cool to hear a couple of stories about them...RIP Grant..I would have loved to have seen Husker Du live.
Me too! Soooooo many bands I woulda loved to see live: - RAMONES - CRASS - THE STOOGES - HÜSKER DÜ - AMEBIX - RUDIMENTARY PENI - THE CLASH - DEAD KENNEDYS (w Jello) - GG ALLIN ... just to name a few.
I'm 15 minutes into this, and I have to ttake a break. Glad to see that somebody finally made a documentary about the Twin Cities punk scene. This is great so far. I'm definitely gonna watch this later. Great job, so far!👍
This was a great documentary. I love Husker Du so that part is amazing for me, but I like hearing about different scenes and the history of it. I hope more of these in other cities are made that aren't New York or LA
Check out this comment for bonus clips, behind-the-scenes, other videos about the hardcore scene, throwback content, and thoughts from Producer David Roth ⬇⬇⬇⬇ 00:21 Meet the cast of characters from Minnesota Hardcore: bit.ly/3hk63RL 02:10 Minneapolis music in the 70s came from one place: Sound80: bit.ly/3HuPBc1 04:16 The Twin Cities punk scene owes a lot to the Suicide Commandos, including getting the Ramones to St. Paul: bit.ly/3Ps9WAQ 08:11Terry's 24th birthday was spent drinking with The Suburbs and The Suicide Commandos: bit.ly/3uL734A 09:36 Jello wrestling, themed nights, disco? First Avenue's got a pretty interesting history: bit.ly/3PsTLDd 10:58 Did you know that Minneapolis had a skid row?: bit.ly/3BtdQUm 12:19 At the Ramones final show, they played their hit song "Blitzkrieg Bop" at over 250bpm. 12:35 What it's like doing sound for Husker Du: bit.ly/3hiaQmG Do you appreciate our work? Help us continue! You can support what we do here: www.tpt.org/support-original-work/ 15:44 Babes in Toyland singer Lori Barbero was a waitress at the Longhorn: bit.ly/3PiYVSi 17:00 Minnesota's first rock and roll label has interesting roots: it started thanks to a Jewish Torah after-school program: bit.ly/3YsfZcK 19:25 Producer David Roth remembers the first time he saw Husker Du live: bit.ly/3jKmozS 21:51 Chris Mars, former drummer for The Replacements, on his artwork and owning his vision: ruclips.net/video/aCb3HSAf_dI/видео.html We've created a Spotify playlist of music from the documentary. Check it out here: open.spotify.com/playlist/7wBiNTTauIFsaV9UYfDWEO?si=3665b2a603ef47ac 23:48 Minnesota has a big role in wrestling history. Check out Lenny Lane's start in the wrestling world: bit.ly/3Cd8U64 32:01 Minneapolis has so many famous artists that there's even a "Minneapolis sound." Check out the documentary from the 80s here: bit.ly/3WEGQAR 34:09 Producer David Roth shares his love of local bands and his memories of the hardcore scene: bit.ly/3GtMMXQ 39:25 The Suicide Commandos created one of the first music videos in the business: bit.ly/3W8ZKPQ 42:39 Producer David Roth on Red Meat: "As Gérard Boissy says in the show, Red Meat was hardcorrreeee! They asked me to be their manager; I said yes. I never did anything to help them. That was pretty par for the course in the musical scene of Minnesota hardcore." 44:02 Goofy's, The Longhorn, Moby's Dick: all places relegated to the past. Check out this 1981 pop culture time machine: bit.ly/3Q6hg5i 46:38 A look back at Hennepin Avenue in the 1980s: bit.ly/3Z4lA9q 48:07 Check out this article from the death of Goofy's Upper Deck in 1983: bit.ly/3WSSOap 54:46 Did you know that Twin Cities PBS created a punxploitation film in 1985? It's called Half Life and you can find it here: bit.ly/3jG08qY 1:02:04 That time when DEVO had lunch in the Twin Cities: bit.ly/3vuygsx 1:04:08 Memories of the Minor Threat show at Lori Barbero's The Big House: bit.ly/3IeYNS6 1:13:18 At Terry Katzman's passing, Producer David Roth gave a heartfelt tribute to the man who was a huge influence on the hardcore scene: bit.ly/3vtgupt 1:15:34 Terry Katzman talks about what it was like doing sound for Husker Du: bit.ly/3vwrnXA 1:21:22 Producer David Roth talks about the evolving of the hardcore scene: " Many of the musicians in the first wave of hardcore evolved into other genres, scenes, cultures. As bands became interested in different musical styles, new bands emerged: industrial, Batcave (goth), power pop, heavy metal, hip hop. Hell, Minneapolis even had a ska band or two. Loud Fast Rules begat Soul Asylum which begat a "Runaway Train." Hüsker Dü evolved from hardcore and went on to become alternative rock superstars." 1:28:45 Producer David Roth on the limits of hardcore: "The limits of hardcore that turn most people off - and that are an undeniable part of the subculture - include juvenile male aggression, regimented fashion, mob mentality and violent mosh pits at concerts. "A bunch of testosterone-riddled 16 to 18 year olds, punching themselves in the face in front of a band." That's how Tom Hazelmyer remembers it, and when he grew tired of the hardcore formula, he started something new: a sixties psychedelia band, Otto's Chemical Lounge. Tom left the band soon after he started it, and guitarist Paul Osby and singer Dale T. Nelson kept the band going for 35-plus years." 1:29:08 Dave Pirner was at the infamous 1978 Alice Cooper show in St. Paul: bit.ly/3Cc7Lfm 1:32:22 Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train" live: bit.ly/3CePFsO 1:34:39 Some of the McPunks that hung around the Uptown McDonald's eventually formed The Baldies, an anti-racist skinhead group. Minnesota Hardcore Producer made a documentary about The Baldies: bit.ly/3vwnEJO 1:37:17 After hardcore, there was No Wave: ruclips.net/video/drEyE2CtQ6k/видео.html 1:38:48 Paddy Malone was invited to be a featured extra in Prince’s ‘Purple Rain’: bit.ly/3G6H8JF 1:42:37 Producer David Roth gave a summary of his thoughts on this documentary: This web series was never meant to be a comprehensive record of alternative music in Minnesota. So many people, bands, stories have been left out. I apologize if we didn't feature your favorite band. And there were so many bands that came after 1985 that did not get any attention in this series. If this makes you mad, I urge you to go and make your own history of the culture you love. The impetus for this series originated from two sources. Ever since reading, Please Kill Me by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain, I've thought about telling the oral history of the scene I grew up in, hoping to touch on the excitement, humor and crazy energy that I remembered. The second inspiration came from Dale T. Nelson, who would tell us stories about seeing early garage bands in the sixties here in the Twin Cities. I couldn't help thinking about an older scene where Blue Cheer played at the New City Opera House on Lake and Nicollet and the idea that the rocker culture of the 1960s shot a direct line to the punks in the 1970s. Just like 1960s rock n' roll, some crazy energy must have been burning brightly in the nucleus of the punk scene. Even though the first wave fizzled out quickly, hardcore drove music genres into a million different directions. According to Wikipedia, here are just a few of the punk sub-genres derived from hardcore: Afro Punk, Bandana Thrash, Bent Edge, Christian Hardcore, Crunkcore, Crust Punk, Deathcore, Easycore, Electronicore, Emo, Goregrind, Grindcore, Horror Punk, Jazzcore, Krishnacore, Mathcore, Melodic Hardcore, Metalcore, Nardcore, Nintendocore, Nu Metalcore, Oi, Punk Pathetique, Positive Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Queercore, Rapcore, Riot Grrrl, Screamo, Skacore, Skate Punk, Spanish Raw Punk, Street Punk, Taqwacore, Trallcore - whew! It really doesn't matter what type of music you like. There is still something to be taken away from a group of yearning amateurs looking for something more exciting. There were many of us who felt like outcasts and embraced a weird culture that was held in contempt by the rest of the world. When you find yourself in a position like that, and then you find likeminded friends, it's a miracle! And if you're lucky, a scene will grow. That scene should inspire you to take action, make things, participate, be alive.
Sorry to trouble you,but you're very well informed on the subject.Please,please tell me,the opening base line @ 16:50 the name of the song and band,it's got me hooked,thankyou for your time.
MTLHC in the house... I remember all these bands, huge enthusiast, best time ever. Great post. Captured the moments and the sentiments that are shared across the board, truly representative. The IRL meme that never dies... this is catching on still internationally right now, like with H.C.W.W. for example, hardcore bands and the hard rockers that surround them are still starting up in new countries all the time. Good. Let 'em have at it. It worked for me. Nuff said. Thank you for posting.
This documentary did a good job at discussing the transitional period leading to hardcore. However, the finished product was never discussed. This was about bands that were still associated with punk rock. The finished product non associated with punk not only thrived, but went off into being mixed with others. Strong enough to be considered mixed with vs. something new. MetalCORE, ThrashCORE, BlackCORE, DeathCORE, etc, etc. That's like calling meshuggah djent. Did they play a role, absolutely, but they're not djent. The same concept applies here. The finished product of hardcore consists of lyrics that are about staying true, pma, brotherhood, and unity. Along with the music consisting of two-steps and breakdowns for slam dancing as we now know it to be.
It was great watching this. I lived in Minneapolis in the late 90s early 2000. Worked at extreme noise when it was on nicollet avenue. I don't even know where they are nowadays lol it was almost twenty years ago. I work my day job spent all my money on records went to shows and work with Felix on Sunday nights. It was a time in my life I'll never forget
Thanks for those of you who joined us to rock in 2023! Sorry the live chat didn't work, but check out the pinned comment to see all the hardcore stories we have available, as well as thoughts from producer David Roth.
Superb documentary. Knew about husker du and the replacements, but nothing about the scene. Really interesting to hear the bands were kids like I was in Lincolnshire starting bands and playing shows
31:48 "why is the music so damn good from Minneapolis?" "We have the seven months of winter, and what else is there to do besides kill yourself?'" real
God damn I love hearing how punk scenes started across American. My dream is after I die, I can go and experience the east cost scene mid west and west coast.
I don't think I could boil it down to one "moment" but my favorite thing about the whole movement was the "DIY" or Do It Yourself mantra. You could have three or four like minded people just up and start a Band and I loved that. I think all of The Bands, the people who wrote Fanzines along with Michelle Straus and Lori Barbero all contributed something to the whole scene and I think that is true collaboration.
homero was on mineapolis in the 80,s he was hanging out with some of the people here in the video he is from mty mexico , he is the first real punk i saw when i was a kid, it was in 1984 1985
Great Doc.....I was part to the pre hardcore punk scene in LA and it's cool to see that this was happening organiclly all over the country.....that yearbook pic of Bob Mould at 13:55 is HILARIOUS he looks like a youth pastor at a snake-handling Pentacostal Church in Tennessee.......
Not many, but I've always dug this one after seeing them do it at the Upper Deck. I still have on of their AOF armbands.. ruclips.net/video/bl-gTDNw_2Y/видео.html
The greatest generation ever!!!! Skateboards, cloves,dip,cheap beer&hella drugs to fight the normies. What a time to be ALIVE!!!! Tales of Terror&Rebel Truth 4 ever!
Even though the weather sucked and it's flat and landlocked, I consider myself lucky to have experienced the Minneapolis scene first hand and during its peak. Part of all that was seeing Husker Du numerous times, watching them develop, and refine their sound with àn urgency and palpable momentum one could feel out in the crowd
Yes, i'd like to music hardcore after rock,metal,and pop. But, in this here "INDONESIAN DEATH METAL" IDM. for hardcore fest is Tasikmalaya bersatu,tasikmalaya bawah tanah,hellprint,and all fested.❤️🔥
Not Too many younger people get to say they punched a Nazi in the mouth like our grandfathers possibly did in the big war. Hats off to these Gen Xers who organized and fought back against racism and oppression when they easily could have remained silent. Glad I watched this awesome documentary.
What happened? What happened to music? When Fleetwood Mac on AM radio bores you sh$&less then Iggy Pop? What happened? Brilliant music and brilliant audiences in every genre everywhere and where they weren’t, someone invented it. What happened? I used to lament being born in ‘73. No I guess I was wildly lucky.
I was a teen in the 1980's and grew up listening to a lot of the "hardcore" bands of that era. With the exception of a few bands with left-wing lyrics like the DKs, MDC, and DOA, I don't remember it being much of a political scene. In addition, the whole 'nazi' vs sharp skinhead thing was laughable, and its also hilarious that TC PBS made a separate doc on that as well.
I don't get this scene: So your artists making the music can make money but no one providing services or paying for the facilities can? The logical conclusion of anticonformist I guess.
Music is music the minute you start bashing on somebody else that makes you a poser!!!!!… the min you start worrying about your look and having a mohawk or liberty spikes or just trying to dress the scene that makes you a poser.
In the late '80s, when MPLS musicians were preoccupied with primping and preening in front of the mirror - Seattle bands had already begun to mop the floor with our bloated egos and rockstar hair.
Born on international inland lake next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born
Just a really great documentary. I live in San Diego. I'm 75. Thank you.
Twin Cities PBS documentaries are top notch, wow
This was very enjoyable and to see most of these guys made it passed their 50s and are still alive.
I was part of the Toronto Hardcore scene during the early 2000s. It was a great time to be around. I feel like the scene died by the 2010s as shows dried up. I wouldn’t have traded that time of my life for anything. It still resonates as the only time that I felt like I belonged somewhere.
I was in the GTA around that time and the music scene reached out to my little suburb atthe local venue. It was amazing.
I’ve watched this documentary 4 time on your website. And now I’m here watching it again on RUclips. I’m not a hardcore fan, but I do love local history and documentaries about Minnesota history. It was “first avenue: closer to the stars” that made me want to learn more about Minnesota musicians. Thank you TPT for all the great Minnesota documentaries you put out. I appreciate all the hard work that is done by everyone that helps put these together
Thank you so much! That made our day!
For real, invaluable work. I watched the Flour Power doc too. So tasteful
These are so well done. HUGELY appreciate that these have been made. - I was down near Madison WI at the time but your scene came down our way a lot. We bonded a lot more with Minneapolis than say Chicago.
I’ll say it again, do one of these on us from the thrash and metal scene. Just like Minneapolis media, we were always ignored. Powermad, Soilent Green, Coup De Grace!
I agree. I grew up in the St.Paul/ Mpls. Hardcore scene and am grateful for them showcasing our time and culture. I seem to recall some cross-over between thrash metal and punk in the scene then too; certain shows drew both subcultures together. Can't recall many band names, that was nearly 40 years ago. Though I do recall seeing Coup De Grace perform at the Northern Lights record store on Hennepin Ave and 7th Street., Downtown Mpls. around the same time. There was a lot of natural cross-over between the two scenes, I think. Seems like they exuded some of the same energy and purpose.
Great Documentary! Love the 80s hardcore scene. Thanks 👊🏼
Hi... In the early 80.s, we(bunch of north german Punks).. toke a Camping Trip to Denmark.. We got about 300 beer cans and 2 tapes.. 😁1 Bad Brains+1x Die toten Hosen(.. Now a succesful German Band) this burned in Our brain.. Here in Germany we hanged up in Squatts or Main places.. It was a very, very aggressive scene.. Now the Punk scene, s less violent.
Try some german stuff:"Slime-komm schon klar,,. /.. ZSK-Es müßte immer Musik da sein"....
This was fascinating. As a transplant that came from an area with a unique punk/hardcore scene it's so cool to see what it was like here. Cheers!
Corrosion Of Conformity is from my state of NC...its soo cool to hear a couple of stories about them...RIP Grant..I would have loved to have seen Husker Du live.
Me too! Soooooo many bands I woulda loved to see live:
- RAMONES
- CRASS
- THE STOOGES
- HÜSKER DÜ
- AMEBIX
- RUDIMENTARY PENI
- THE CLASH
- DEAD KENNEDYS (w Jello)
- GG ALLIN
... just to name a few.
@@jeffsims8270 I saw the Ramones live a few times..and I did see DK but not with Jello.
North Carolina forever. ♥️
I'm 15 minutes into this, and I have to ttake a break. Glad to see that somebody finally made a documentary about the Twin Cities punk scene. This is great so far. I'm definitely gonna watch this later. Great job, so far!👍
This was a great documentary. I love Husker Du so that part is amazing for me, but I like hearing about different scenes and the history of it. I hope more of these in other cities are made that aren't New York or LA
Really fine work here
Thanks for the memories
Another top-notch production. Thank you!
Wisconsin is still down with you!!!! ❤❤❤
Check out this comment for bonus clips, behind-the-scenes, other videos about the hardcore scene, throwback content, and thoughts from Producer David Roth ⬇⬇⬇⬇
00:21 Meet the cast of characters from Minnesota Hardcore: bit.ly/3hk63RL
02:10 Minneapolis music in the 70s came from one place: Sound80: bit.ly/3HuPBc1
04:16 The Twin Cities punk scene owes a lot to the Suicide Commandos, including getting the Ramones to St. Paul: bit.ly/3Ps9WAQ
08:11Terry's 24th birthday was spent drinking with The Suburbs and The Suicide Commandos: bit.ly/3uL734A
09:36 Jello wrestling, themed nights, disco? First Avenue's got a pretty interesting history: bit.ly/3PsTLDd
10:58 Did you know that Minneapolis had a skid row?: bit.ly/3BtdQUm
12:19 At the Ramones final show, they played their hit song "Blitzkrieg Bop" at over 250bpm.
12:35 What it's like doing sound for Husker Du: bit.ly/3hiaQmG
Do you appreciate our work? Help us continue! You can support what we do here: www.tpt.org/support-original-work/
15:44 Babes in Toyland singer Lori Barbero was a waitress at the Longhorn: bit.ly/3PiYVSi
17:00 Minnesota's first rock and roll label has interesting roots: it started thanks to a Jewish Torah after-school program: bit.ly/3YsfZcK
19:25 Producer David Roth remembers the first time he saw Husker Du live: bit.ly/3jKmozS
21:51 Chris Mars, former drummer for The Replacements, on his artwork and owning his vision: ruclips.net/video/aCb3HSAf_dI/видео.html
We've created a Spotify playlist of music from the documentary. Check it out here: open.spotify.com/playlist/7wBiNTTauIFsaV9UYfDWEO?si=3665b2a603ef47ac
23:48 Minnesota has a big role in wrestling history. Check out Lenny Lane's start in the wrestling world: bit.ly/3Cd8U64
32:01 Minneapolis has so many famous artists that there's even a "Minneapolis sound." Check out the documentary from the 80s here: bit.ly/3WEGQAR
34:09 Producer David Roth shares his love of local bands and his memories of the hardcore scene: bit.ly/3GtMMXQ
39:25 The Suicide Commandos created one of the first music videos in the business: bit.ly/3W8ZKPQ
42:39 Producer David Roth on Red Meat: "As Gérard Boissy says in the show, Red Meat was hardcorrreeee! They asked me to be their manager; I said yes. I never did anything to help them. That was pretty par for the course in the musical scene of Minnesota hardcore."
44:02 Goofy's, The Longhorn, Moby's Dick: all places relegated to the past. Check out this 1981 pop culture time machine: bit.ly/3Q6hg5i
46:38 A look back at Hennepin Avenue in the 1980s: bit.ly/3Z4lA9q
48:07 Check out this article from the death of Goofy's Upper Deck in 1983: bit.ly/3WSSOap
54:46 Did you know that Twin Cities PBS created a punxploitation film in 1985? It's called Half Life and you can find it here: bit.ly/3jG08qY
1:02:04 That time when DEVO had lunch in the Twin Cities: bit.ly/3vuygsx
1:04:08 Memories of the Minor Threat show at Lori Barbero's The Big House: bit.ly/3IeYNS6
1:13:18 At Terry Katzman's passing, Producer David Roth gave a heartfelt tribute to the man who was a huge influence on the hardcore scene: bit.ly/3vtgupt
1:15:34 Terry Katzman talks about what it was like doing sound for Husker Du: bit.ly/3vwrnXA
1:21:22 Producer David Roth talks about the evolving of the hardcore scene: " Many of the musicians in the first wave of hardcore evolved into other genres, scenes, cultures. As bands became interested in different musical styles, new bands emerged: industrial, Batcave (goth), power pop, heavy metal, hip hop. Hell, Minneapolis even had a ska band or two. Loud Fast Rules begat Soul Asylum which begat a "Runaway Train." Hüsker Dü evolved from hardcore and went on to become alternative rock superstars."
1:28:45 Producer David Roth on the limits of hardcore: "The limits of hardcore that turn most people off - and that are an undeniable part of the subculture - include juvenile male aggression, regimented fashion, mob mentality and violent mosh pits at concerts. "A bunch of testosterone-riddled 16 to 18 year olds, punching themselves in the face in front of a band." That's how Tom Hazelmyer remembers it, and when he grew tired of the hardcore formula, he started something new: a sixties psychedelia band, Otto's Chemical Lounge. Tom left the band soon after he started it, and guitarist Paul Osby and singer Dale T. Nelson kept the band going for 35-plus years."
1:29:08 Dave Pirner was at the infamous 1978 Alice Cooper show in St. Paul: bit.ly/3Cc7Lfm
1:32:22 Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train" live: bit.ly/3CePFsO
1:34:39 Some of the McPunks that hung around the Uptown McDonald's eventually formed The Baldies, an anti-racist skinhead group. Minnesota Hardcore Producer made a documentary about The Baldies: bit.ly/3vwnEJO
1:37:17 After hardcore, there was No Wave: ruclips.net/video/drEyE2CtQ6k/видео.html
1:38:48 Paddy Malone was invited to be a featured extra in Prince’s ‘Purple Rain’: bit.ly/3G6H8JF
1:42:37 Producer David Roth gave a summary of his thoughts on this documentary: This web series was never meant to be a comprehensive record of alternative music in Minnesota. So many people, bands, stories have been left out. I apologize if we didn't feature your favorite band. And there were so many bands that came after 1985 that did not get any attention in this series. If this makes you mad, I urge you to go and make your own history of the culture you love.
The impetus for this series originated from two sources. Ever since reading, Please Kill Me by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain, I've thought about telling the oral history of the scene I grew up in, hoping to touch on the excitement, humor and crazy energy that I remembered. The second inspiration came from Dale T. Nelson, who would tell us stories about seeing early garage bands in the sixties here in the Twin Cities. I couldn't help thinking about an older scene where Blue Cheer played at the New City Opera House on Lake and Nicollet and the idea that the rocker culture of the 1960s shot a direct line to the punks in the 1970s.
Just like 1960s rock n' roll, some crazy energy must have been burning brightly in the nucleus of the punk scene. Even though the first wave fizzled out quickly, hardcore drove music genres into a million different directions. According to Wikipedia, here are just a few of the punk sub-genres derived from hardcore: Afro Punk, Bandana Thrash, Bent Edge, Christian Hardcore, Crunkcore, Crust Punk, Deathcore, Easycore, Electronicore, Emo, Goregrind, Grindcore, Horror Punk, Jazzcore, Krishnacore, Mathcore, Melodic Hardcore, Metalcore, Nardcore, Nintendocore, Nu Metalcore, Oi, Punk Pathetique, Positive Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Queercore, Rapcore, Riot Grrrl, Screamo, Skacore, Skate Punk, Spanish Raw Punk, Street Punk, Taqwacore, Trallcore - whew!
It really doesn't matter what type of music you like. There is still something to be taken away from a group of yearning amateurs looking for something more exciting. There were many of us who felt like outcasts and embraced a weird culture that was held in contempt by the rest of the world. When you find yourself in a position like that, and then you find likeminded friends, it's a miracle! And if you're lucky, a scene will grow. That scene should inspire you to take action, make things, participate, be alive.
Sorry to trouble you,but you're very well informed on the subject.Please,please tell me,the opening base line @ 16:50 the name of the song and band,it's got me hooked,thankyou for your time.
MTLHC in the house... I remember all these bands, huge enthusiast, best time ever. Great post. Captured the moments and the sentiments that are shared across the board, truly representative. The IRL meme that never dies... this is catching on still internationally right now, like with H.C.W.W. for example, hardcore bands and the hard rockers that surround them are still starting up in new countries all the time. Good. Let 'em have at it. It worked for me. Nuff said. Thank you for posting.
This documentary did a good job at discussing the transitional period leading to hardcore. However, the finished product was never discussed. This was about bands that were still associated with punk rock. The finished product non associated with punk not only thrived, but went off into being mixed with others. Strong enough to be considered mixed with vs. something new. MetalCORE, ThrashCORE, BlackCORE, DeathCORE, etc, etc.
That's like calling meshuggah djent. Did they play a role, absolutely, but they're not djent. The same concept applies here.
The finished product of hardcore consists of lyrics that are about staying true, pma, brotherhood, and unity. Along with the music consisting of two-steps and breakdowns for slam dancing as we now know it to be.
It was great watching this. I lived in Minneapolis in the late 90s early 2000. Worked at extreme noise when it was on nicollet avenue. I don't even know where they are nowadays lol it was almost twenty years ago. I work my day job spent all my money on records went to shows and work with Felix on Sunday nights. It was a time in my life I'll never forget
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I like all the stages of Husker Du, Zen Arcade was an important part of my teenage years. I do not know why, but it spoke to me.
Zen Arcade is an amazing record.
thanks for taking such good care of us, TC PBS
Thank you! Sorry the live chat ended - of course RUclips screws up the premiere when we've been advertising it 😅
Nod to Impaler on there!
Thanks for those of you who joined us to rock in 2023! Sorry the live chat didn't work, but check out the pinned comment to see all the hardcore stories we have available, as well as thoughts from producer David Roth.
Superb documentary. Knew about husker du and the replacements, but nothing about the scene. Really interesting to hear the bands were kids like I was in Lincolnshire starting bands and playing shows
So glad you enjoyed it!
I was growing up in 70's and 80's in Eastern Europe and knew almost each band mentioned in this documentary.
31:48 "why is the music so damn good from Minneapolis?"
"We have the seven months of winter, and what else is there to do besides kill yourself?'"
real
I remember finding stink from the replacements in my buddy's older brother's record collection when I was 12. I'm 52 now.
This is the Minneapolis Police!
I am glad I Met Greg Norton at the Punk Rock Bowling Festival this year he was a cool guy
Hardcore saved my life
Just like anything else once something is consumed to the max and over saturated it will eat itself🤷♂️ But those were glorious times, for sure👏
Yup!
God damn I love hearing how punk scenes started across American.
My dream is after I die, I can go and experience the east cost scene mid west and west coast.
What's your favorite hardcore moment?
When it stopped. Christ, it was getting boring!
I don't think I could boil it down to one "moment" but my favorite thing about the whole movement was the "DIY" or Do It Yourself mantra. You could have three or four like minded people just up and start a Band and I loved that. I think all of The Bands, the people who wrote Fanzines along with Michelle Straus and Lori Barbero all contributed something to the whole scene and I think that is true collaboration.
Ooof that 2019 footage was hard to watch.
Thanks man…this is great
homero was on mineapolis in the 80,s he was hanging out with some of the people here in the video he is from mty mexico , he is the first real punk i saw when i was a kid, it was in 1984 1985
is RUclips shafting you on the song copywrites or r u collecting?
Husker Du is one of the best bands of all time.
We must secure the existence of all people and a future for all children.
yes and thanks
what is the track/song name at 36:17 ?
I came here to ask the exact same question
The song is called "Scripture," by Minneapolis goth band Dark Carnival.
Love this! Nice job!
Great Doc.....I was part to the pre hardcore punk scene in LA and it's cool to see that this was happening organiclly all over the country.....that yearbook pic of Bob Mould at 13:55 is HILARIOUS he looks like a youth pastor at a snake-handling Pentacostal Church in Tennessee.......
The 90's the death knell of Punk Rock...
tracklist anyone ??
Maceió Alagoas.punks johni 38.vive! Lagarto vive! Rato vive!
Is there a beat down hardcore documentary?
What’s the intro song!
What's your favorite hardcore song?
Not many, but I've always dug this one after seeing them do it at the Upper Deck. I still have on of their AOF armbands..
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"Chartered Trips" by Husker Du, my favorite song off 'Zen Arcade'.
punchdrunk
Minor Threat's "Straight Edge"
HOW in the world does a playlist inspired by Minnesota Punk include songs from Kanasas and the Little River Band? Someone needs to do some editing.
Miss ditching school at Central in St. Paul to ride the bus up lake so I could buy my $5 jars of Manic Panic at Extreme Noise :D
Willful Neglect rules!!
Good thing the 2nd floor upper deck didn't collapse.
5 nights in calgary!!! Too bad it was 2 years before I was born.
The greatest generation ever!!!! Skateboards, cloves,dip,cheap beer&hella drugs to fight the normies. What a time to be ALIVE!!!! Tales of Terror&Rebel Truth 4 ever!
"I didn't know what punk rock wuz 'cuz I wuz runnin' from the cops."
Then you know exactly what punk rock was. You were living it mate!
Great stuff fellas!
Husker Du is not a band to be touched.. the greatest American rock n roll band ever!!
Nor to be ''replaced'', also.
Love love Husker Du. Great band
Even though the weather sucked and it's flat and landlocked, I consider myself lucky to have experienced the Minneapolis scene first hand and during its peak. Part of all that was seeing Husker Du numerous times, watching them develop, and refine their sound with àn urgency and palpable momentum one could feel out in the crowd
Agree 100%. Husker Du, Dinosaur Jr and Meat Puppets are my holy trinity.
That's a lie
Whats the Song at 36:12?
It's a song by the band Dark Carnival, it came from an unreleased demo tape.
Kurt Cobain said “we’re just doing what Husker Du did” when asked about Nirvana sound
does anybody knows the song at 44:08?
It’s a cover of “Bad Moon Rising” by Creedence Clearwater Revival circa 1969
This is about a decade after skid row was demolished by city officials. In Minneapolis of course
People in subcultures have an edge, their different, but they are human just like everybody else.
RIP Sean Lipinski
Yes, i'd like to music hardcore after rock,metal,and pop. But, in this here "INDONESIAN DEATH METAL" IDM. for hardcore fest is Tasikmalaya bersatu,tasikmalaya bawah tanah,hellprint,and all fested.❤️🔥
Not Too many younger people get to say they punched a Nazi in the mouth like our grandfathers possibly did in the big war. Hats off to these Gen Xers who organized and fought back against racism and oppression when they easily could have remained silent. Glad I watched this awesome documentary.
What happened? What happened to music? When Fleetwood Mac on AM radio bores you sh$&less then Iggy Pop? What happened? Brilliant music and brilliant audiences in every genre everywhere and where they weren’t, someone invented it. What happened? I used to lament being born in ‘73. No I guess I was wildly lucky.
This is god
I was a teen in the 1980's and grew up listening to a lot of the "hardcore" bands of that era. With the exception of a few bands with left-wing lyrics like the DKs, MDC, and DOA, I don't remember it being much of a political scene. In addition, the whole 'nazi' vs sharp skinhead thing was laughable, and its also hilarious that TC PBS made a separate doc on that as well.
((((((((((((((((. THE PATHETICS. ))))))))))))))))))). best stillwater punk band of all time!
57:07
I used to see the suburbs for free at Carleton College in Northfield. I like cows.
“Hardcore has been done” wears a Hawkwind shirt. Just accept that kids will continue to find hardcore and relate to it.
A lot of hardcore fans turned to Hip Hop, just saying.
alot of Metal heads liked hardcore, but went full on Metal after a while..
I don't get this scene: So your artists making the music can make money but no one providing services or paying for the facilities can? The logical conclusion of anticonformist I guess.
Music is music the minute you start bashing on somebody else that makes you a poser!!!!!… the min you start worrying about your look and having a mohawk or liberty spikes or just trying to dress the scene that makes you a poser.
In the late '80s, when MPLS musicians were preoccupied with primping and preening in front of the mirror - Seattle bands had already begun to mop the floor with our bloated egos and rockstar hair.
7:54 ahem, Bad Brains invented hardcore. They are the godfathers of it all. Washington DC
Wrong. A lot of bands played hardcore before them. Middle Class being one of them.
"Hardcore" was not invented by the BBs. The sound came mostly from California but no single band invented it.
Born on international inland lake next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born
I wish pbs would take Felix out of this doc. He is a groomer and predator