As usual- another quality review, Des! All the important questions answered, but still concise and snappy! For my use, the new features aren’t worth the upgrade from the Pace 2, although the HRV functions are appealing. Thanks!
I love that Coros is stepping in the right direction, but I am kinda put off by the price of the Apex 2. I was hoping for it to be $350 especially since it doesn't have Multiband GPS but I understand why it's $400
Thank you for the great review. If I am interested in doing sports in the gym, walking, gymnastics, workout, will this watch be suitable for these purposes? From your video I understood that they are quite accurate and not much inferior to Garmin watches in terms of heart rate and oxygen sensors. Or will the Fenix 7 PRO be more accurate for my purposes?
Thanks Des, Enjoyed your review. I am an Apex Pro and Vertix user. I would be interested in knowing how the Apex 2 Pro GPS accuracy compares to the original Apex Pro. That sort of determines whether I upgrade. I use a Polar HR strap since my Apex Pro wrist HR is mostly crap. But I have found the Apex Pro GPS accuracy to be pretty darn good in Oregon. So I would be curious to see if the new chips set is better. All the best.
A Chinese blogger compared the hear rate accuracy of Garmin 955 (use Garmin HR strap) and Apex 2 pro. The result shows that the average heart rate and maximum heart rate were the same.
Great video! I have a question: Coros Apex 2 VS Garmin Venu 3? Im looking at both of these and cant decide! Which one of these two have better heart rate accuracy and better GPS? Does the Venu 3 even have maps at all?? Any feedback would be really appricated!
Hi Des. Is there a phone music control feature on either? Not onboard offline music, not Spotify app, just pure "pause play skip volume" remote for the phone.
How is the new screen with the fonts and the sapphire glass? I have the pace 2 and it’s very easy to see. I found the original apex pro to be a bit hard to read in certain conditions. Is that Apex pro 2 screen better and easier to read vs the Original apex pro?
nice explanation bro. but can you help me to choose between garmin instinct 2 solar or coros apex 2, most of my activities are hiking, bikepacking and bike touring. what I'm looking for is solid hardware and software, GPS accuracy and battery life. one side garmin offers solar power and power manager but don't like the screen and coros has ok hardware but one side on the software side there is something lacking in my opinion
Also considering Suunto 9 Peak Pro which is very thin watch with superb battery life and clean interface. Think the only negative I can think of is the less brighter screen. Apex 2, Apple Ultra are thick watches so I wouldnt be comfortable with those.
I'm an avid mountain hikers and looking for the best GPS offline + navigations watch with worth money values. Sometimes i hike in rainy season, bad weather and windy conditions too... can you recommend with brand is the best so far? ...
Hello! I'm in between the Garmin Instinct Solar 2, the new Coros Apex 2 and the Coros Apex Pro. The cheaper one in my area is the Instinct. I want the watch for hiking, trail running, occasionally city running, pool swimming and "tourist walking." Would you give me your opinion, please?
I’m currently having the exact same debate. I ordered both the Instinct 2s and the Apex 2 so I could see which I like better in person. Did you end up buying one?
Fantastic having a review already! In your honest opinion, do you think the regular Apex is worth it vs the FR955? I love the metal build and smaller size/weight, but I'm torn because although I love my Pace 2, it's hard to argue that Garmin has a more complete ecosystem, especially as an Edge owner as well and the latest Garmin's have fixed the battery life issues I had with my older Fenix 5 and old FR's.
It's kind of a toss up in terms of software features vs materials. Already having an Edge bike computer should factor into the decision as you mentioned though as it can be more convenient to have everything in one app. But I can't deny that the materials used on the Apex 2 are quite nice!
There is no way for a watch to detect power output from your legs for cycling, so you need a cycling power meter paired to do so. This is the same with any watch or bike computer.
Thanks for the detailed, perfect review 👍 I am trying to decide a watch for open water swimming + runing. Coros Apex 2 Pro and Garmin 955 are in my short list. Which do you recommend ? Or another one with similar functionality ? Thanks in advance 🙋🏻♂️
should I buy the apex 2 or get the old apex pro at a discount. From the review besides the new heart rate sensor and music i cannot seem to find any significant upgrade. My concern remains whether the apex pro will get outdated with no software updates . What do you advice.
Apex pro “should” continue to get firmware updates as long as storage space is available. Have an apex pro as well and waiting it out pending when they stop the updates.
Dommage que l'on n'ai pas le choix d'avoir un écran saphyr. Je n'aime pas, je ne vois rien. J'aurais préféré avoir un écran classique et mettre un film protecteur. Car qui fait du "tout terrain" avec sa montre ? Je soupconne une manière de commercialiser plus cher car écran saphyr. Sinon j'utilise Coros Apex pro au quotidien, j'ai délaissé Garmin. Ma montre est la seule à capter aussi rapidement le signal GPS et j'adore leur plateforme
Hi, hope you can help me with my question please - I'm using 955 and last 2w started to train cycling, why I can't see VO2 max for that, only for running? Thanks in advnace.
The bezel on the "base" model looks rather unattractive. I kind of prefered the first gen models. Glad I got a Forerunner 255 in August though. That one is made of plastic, but does pretty much the same as these two, looks better (in my view), and for less.
Hey I can't find multi pitch or ski videos in the description. ruclips.net/video/swXGfTWwUgk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/99kucn_veek/видео.html Also, they don't have specific tenis mode right? Many thanks!
The reason there is no ANT+ is because Garmin own that and it has to be leased for each new product, and im guessing Garmin put the price up a large amount
As usual- another quality review, Des! All the important questions answered, but still concise and snappy! For my use, the new features aren’t worth the upgrade from the Pace 2, although the HRV functions are appealing. Thanks!
Thanks Phil and also appreciate sharing your feedback!
Over 8 hours of sleep Des! Way to get it done. 👏 Great review as always! 🙌
Been trying, Matt! Thanks man!
Coming in clutch once again. Let’s go des 🙏🏾🚲 🏃♂️
Thanks Jay! 🙌
I fear nothing, but that bezel... it scares me
Thanks great review as always!
Thanks!
I love that Coros is stepping in the right direction, but I am kinda put off by the price of the Apex 2. I was hoping for it to be $350 especially since it doesn't have Multiband GPS but I understand why it's $400
Thank you for the great review. If I am interested in doing sports in the gym, walking, gymnastics, workout, will this watch be suitable for these purposes? From your video I understood that they are quite accurate and not much inferior to Garmin watches in terms of heart rate and oxygen sensors. Or will the Fenix 7 PRO be more accurate for my purposes?
Thanks Des, Enjoyed your review. I am an Apex Pro and Vertix user. I would be interested in knowing how the Apex 2 Pro GPS accuracy compares to the original Apex Pro. That sort of determines whether I upgrade. I use a Polar HR strap since my Apex Pro wrist HR is mostly crap. But I have found the Apex Pro GPS accuracy to be pretty darn good in Oregon. So I would be curious to see if the new chips set is better. All the best.
A Chinese blogger compared the hear rate accuracy of Garmin 955 (use Garmin HR strap) and Apex 2 pro. The result shows that the average heart rate and maximum heart rate were the same.
Great video! I have a question: Coros Apex 2 VS Garmin Venu 3? Im looking at both of these and cant decide! Which one of these two have better heart rate accuracy and better GPS? Does the Venu 3 even have maps at all?? Any feedback would be really appricated!
Go for the Coros Apex 2. Venu doesn't even have navigation.
Hi Des. Is there a phone music control feature on either? Not onboard offline music, not Spotify app, just pure "pause play skip volume" remote for the phone.
How is the new screen with the fonts and the sapphire glass? I have the pace 2 and it’s very easy to see. I found the original apex pro to be a bit hard to read in certain conditions. Is that Apex pro 2 screen better and easier to read vs the Original apex pro?
coros pace 3 will follow? with better heart rate sensor maybe?
Lambat lagi kot.. Sebab pace 2 ni baru lagi(x silap baru 2 tahun) ..mungkin la next year kot nk buat pace 3)
@@Azim.Ibrahim mantap ade komen melayu kt sini..
@@rahmatsdr1998 hehe.. Terima kasih.. 😊🤜🤛
nice explanation bro.
but can you help me to choose between garmin instinct 2 solar or coros apex 2, most of my activities are hiking, bikepacking and bike touring. what I'm looking for is solid hardware and software, GPS accuracy and battery life.
one side garmin offers solar power and power manager but don't like the screen and coros has ok hardware but one side on the software side there is something lacking in my opinion
I'm 50 and my eyes are needing the readers. Is the screen without the backlight on the new apex any brighter than the old apex without backlight?
How was the real time pace on both watch? Does it still has 10secs delay (w/o POD2)?
The bezels of modern smart watches seem to become bigger and bigger.
I am still awaiting Your Suunto 9 Peak Pro review, is it not coming? And plz no more Apple Ultra reviews. Thank for a Good Channel 😊
Also considering Suunto 9 Peak Pro which is very thin watch with superb battery life and clean interface. Think the only negative I can think of is the less brighter screen. Apex 2, Apple Ultra are thick watches so I wouldnt be comfortable with those.
I'm an avid mountain hikers and looking for the best GPS offline + navigations watch with worth money values. Sometimes i hike in rainy season, bad weather and windy conditions too... can you recommend with brand is the best so far? ...
Des.. when can I buy this in Belgium?
In between coros pace 3 or apex 2 (not the pro). What should i get? Im a runner and love durability and accuracy @DesFit
Hello! I'm in between the Garmin Instinct Solar 2, the new Coros Apex 2 and the Coros Apex Pro. The cheaper one in my area is the Instinct. I want the watch for hiking, trail running, occasionally city running, pool swimming and "tourist walking." Would you give me your opinion, please?
I’m currently having the exact same debate.
I ordered both the Instinct 2s and the Apex 2 so I could see which I like better in person.
Did you end up buying one?
@@cartervepley2143 I did not, but you made the right decision. Please let me know which one you keep.
Apex 2
@@fermandeza i kept the apex 2. the screen on the instinct 2s is small and just didnt feel right. its a good watch for sure but i preferred the coros
I’m still wondering how the music storage works
what software or app do you use in comparing HR?
The DC Rainmaker Analyzer - it's a great tool that anyone can use! www.dcrainmaker.com/analyzer
Fantastic having a review already! In your honest opinion, do you think the regular Apex is worth it vs the FR955? I love the metal build and smaller size/weight, but I'm torn because although I love my Pace 2, it's hard to argue that Garmin has a more complete ecosystem, especially as an Edge owner as well and the latest Garmin's have fixed the battery life issues I had with my older Fenix 5 and old FR's.
It's kind of a toss up in terms of software features vs materials. Already having an Edge bike computer should factor into the decision as you mentioned though as it can be more convenient to have everything in one app. But I can't deny that the materials used on the Apex 2 are quite nice!
would love to see a comparison of the new FR965 and Apex 2 Pro
In watch mode, HR measures every 1 second or every 10 minutes?
Your choice.
@@Lasombra08 yes, but is the battery life for 1s or 10 minutes? Apex Pro 2 has 30 days in what mode? Regards 👍
@@tomaszwoch8415 that would be for 10 minute ,
do coros watches have power meter build in?
For running power? Yes.
@@DesFit ok ty what about cycling can it show the watts output?
Yes, when paired with a cycling power meter
@@DesFit ok ty but cant detect wattage on its own?
There is no way for a watch to detect power output from your legs for cycling, so you need a cycling power meter paired to do so. This is the same with any watch or bike computer.
Thanks for the detailed, perfect review 👍 I am trying to decide a watch for open water swimming + runing. Coros Apex 2 Pro and Garmin 955 are in my short list. Which do you recommend ? Or another one with similar functionality ? Thanks in advance 🙋🏻♂️
should I buy the apex 2 or get the old apex pro at a discount. From the review besides the new heart rate sensor and music i cannot seem to find any significant upgrade. My concern remains whether the apex pro will get outdated with no software updates . What do you advice.
Apex pro “should” continue to get firmware updates as long as storage space is available. Have an apex pro as well and waiting it out pending when they stop the updates.
Dommage que l'on n'ai pas le choix d'avoir un écran saphyr. Je n'aime pas, je ne vois rien. J'aurais préféré avoir un écran classique et mettre un film protecteur. Car qui fait du "tout terrain" avec sa montre ? Je soupconne une manière de commercialiser plus cher car écran saphyr. Sinon j'utilise Coros Apex pro au quotidien, j'ai délaissé Garmin. Ma montre est la seule à capter aussi rapidement le signal GPS et j'adore leur plateforme
Hi, hope you can help me with my question please - I'm using 955 and last 2w started to train cycling, why I can't see VO2 max for that, only for running? Thanks in advnace.
To get VO2 max for cycling on the 955 (or any other Garmin) you need to have a cycling power meter paired.
@@DesFit Aha, I see. What devices recommended for MTB, based on your experience?
The bezel on the "base" model looks rather unattractive. I kind of prefered the first gen models. Glad I got a Forerunner 255 in August though. That one is made of plastic, but does pretty much the same as these two, looks better (in my view), and for less.
Can apex 2 pro cable fit into apex pro?
Yup! Same charging cables 👍
Hey I can't find multi pitch or ski videos in the description.
ruclips.net/video/swXGfTWwUgk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/99kucn_veek/видео.html
Also, they don't have specific tenis mode right? Many thanks!
Oops! Edited the description. Thanks for pointing that out! No specific tennis mode.
5 atm is really poor, shame
Waaaay to expensive
No ANT+ no buy :(
The reason there is no ANT+ is because Garmin own that and it has to be leased for each new product, and im guessing Garmin put the price up a large amount