Why There is a Giant Floating Prison In New York City
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2022
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Planes. They are boats if the sea was dry.
Don’t tell Wendover Production
Boats wouldn’t float if the sea was dry.
@@ElValuador Taking the shotgun approach to low-effort trolling, huh? Try harder.
@@endig4501 Space shuttles. They are planes but in space.
Seaplanes. They are like upside-down submarines if the sea was dry.
The line graph “Average Daily Jail Population in NYC” at time stamp (3:31/5:51) has an error in the x axis. It starts with the year “1888” and not “1988” as it should.
You’re welcome :)
I thought it was just a joke
Logarithmic scale for the first unit, clearly...
Yeah: someone else realized too! There should also be a break in the graph I think.
are you sure it should? Is the graph still correct with it reading 1888? Do you know?
@@joshuareidsound8985 In the video he literally says “30 years ago back in the late 80s..” it was meant to read 1988
Arguably Australia was just one big prison boat
Lol
Sadly, a vote has yet to be passed to close it down...
It would be, but everyone knows that Australia doesn’t exist.
@@Stevie-J A tyrannical island full of scared sheep.
It's only arguable because Australia isn't actually real.
0:11 the pictures shows the “diamond princess“ notable for having a gastroenteritis outbreak in 2016 and a Covid-19 outbreak in January 2020. The latter of whom resulted in the ship and all passengers being quarantined for nearly a month.
Princess is an old people cruise line.
Very funny, HAI...
lol
never heard of the 2016 one
"There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution" - from ~30 years working in system admin & tech support.
Temporary solutions tend to be implemented quickly, then renewed indefinitely because it's much less work to just keep the patch-up job running. This explains a great deal about the state of computer software, but I'm sure we can all come up with real-world examples. Waaay too many real-world examples.
Highway paving
@@User31129 Yeah, the patching of potholes was the first real-world example that I thought of as well (aside from the prison barge.) But you can find this EVERYWHERE.
This is why my departments roof flooded. About 30 years ago they were told it could be fixed permanently for x amount or temporary repaired each year for a smaller amount, can you guess which they went for?
I've heard a reportedly Russian saying that is essentially the same thing.
RUclips dislikes…
In the USN if your ship was in the shipyard we had a berthing barge nearby. It was home to all the services that the ship could no longer support. Things like admin, medical, galley and where the Duty section slept. It was not fun.
On subs even that didn’t matter, still slept onboard for duty
Thank you for your service.
Statements like these reaffirm my beliefs that I will never be military potential haha
The berthing barge was generally threadbare, temperatures fluctuated frequently and violently, reefer units rarely worked, and the heads (the bathrooms) were insufficient in basically every respect. And this is coming from someone whose first ship was a warship so old and busted, they couldn't sell it off, so they used it as target practice.
@@Stevie-J Yeah that's about right, but without the gym, and a little nicer. On the bright side, only had to sleep there once or twice a week.
"Why is this temporary measure still open ?" Because the government has a history of making temporary measures that are actually permanent. Sales tax amirite ?
Income tax, the patriot act, gun control, violations of habeas corpus, etc.
I would totally have my income tax raised to have the sales tax canceled. Sales tax is charged equally to both the poor and the rich. And the poor spend almost all their income, while the rich dont.
@@alexkaplan6581 covid regulations...
@@User31129 State versus fed. Apples to oranges, unless you live in a regressive shithole like California that double dips.
I didn't know if this meant to be a joke but the line graph from 3:29 to 4:04 starts at 1888 and not 1988.
I noticed that too
Another item for yearly mistakes video
I didn’t know there was a prison boat in New York until I saw this video. Thank you for sharing. I learned something new today.
@@Stevie-J and bricks
@@Stevie-J that's called a sponsorship
FYI: Koch, in this instance, rhymes with Scotch.
Surely a good thing otherwise it would pronounce the same as the last name of the father of modern bacteriology
So it's not pronounced as "Coke" ?
@@dannydaw59 Not for the former People's Court Judge and former NYC Mayor
I felt really dumb for a second.
@@dannydaw59 It is for the Koch Brothers, but not for former mayor Ed Koch
The Average Daily Jail Population graph has a typo; It says 1888 rather than 1988.
Good eye, noticed that too
Ah yes, a temporary measure. Just like car tax was here, back in 1958. Nothing is as permanent as a temporary measure.
Here in Canada we're still paying the "temporary" surcharge on phone service for switching to touch tone from pulse dial.
Nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program Milton Friedman
Oh yes like other temporary things in the USA like:
Sales Tax
The FBI
The CIA
The Patriot Act
Giant Monopolies
The Military Industrial Complex
Major omission: Left out the real reason why not closed and will never be until an additional prison is built.
The correction workers union wont let it close and city workers unions control who gets elected to all elected offices in the city.
ugh, fuckin' law enforcement unions ruining NYC once again
@@Sammie1053 where did the mean police man arrest you?
@@Sammie1053 Democrats have spent years telling workers that they need to unionize and band together to ensure better treatment.
Can you really blame NY police for doing what their city and state governments recommended?
@@toahero5925 do you really think that cop and correctional worker unions are remotely a new thing?
@@Steelerebecca92 Of course not, but it kinda undermines progressive praise for unionization and workers' rights when they turn around and badmouth police unions for protecting their members.
wendover is in tears. you started this video with pretty much the exact opposite of a plane
If I've learned anything about temporary measures, it's that they're almost invariably permanent, doesn't matter if it's New York or anywhere else with humans.
The reason is simple: The temporary measure makes the problem a thing to solve later, so other things then take priority (ie finding), then later comes, the cheapest solution is then to extend the temporary measure.
Arguably the earth is just one big prison spaceship
Probably less then 100 people escaped this prison out of a population of 7 billion ,it seems pretty effective.
Half as interesting always makes my day slightly more interesting, thanks Sam
As a former Staten islander, I can confirm this is very true but the ferry bathrooms are truly the worse thing in the world
You can actually see that boat, Riker's Island and even North and South Brother Islands from the NYC Ferry that runs to and from the Bronx Soundview Ferry port on Classon Point. There is also a gated community there.
I mean, I would hope a prison had gates 😉
@@EdgyShooter Haha, good one!
@3:51 the chart says 1888, I think it's supposed to be 1988.
VCBC closed this month. I volunteered there the last year: it was crowded, open rooms with ~60 beds, and had free windows. In incarcerated folks were largely shipped off to Rikers.
" Boats, they're like planes for if the sky was wet."
I also enjoy mushrooms.
Long time viewer , first time caller ... I’m from NYC (SI actually) and I totally approve of this episode on every level. Wendover /HAI keep it gully
There used to be a prison ship in Belfast Harbour in the 1970's. It was called HMP Maidstone. One night a few inmates dived into the harbour and escaped. It didn't last too much longer after that.
"HAI's Crime Spree" a.k.a Sam is trying to get on one of those prison planes
This is the best Nebula bait I've ever seen.
3:30 1888 skips to 1990, big gap in a little graph
4:04, graphs labelled wrongly to 1888 instead of 1988 :P
the prison graph starting at 3:30 starts with "1888" instead of "1988" by the by
YOOOOOO I WILL ABSOLUTELY Wtch that show. So happy you’ve seen the growth and success you have!!
3:31.. I though when Sam said late 80s it was 1980s, but looks like it was late 1880s.. Damn! For over a century Rikers has been super occupied.
Good job on 2 million subs!!!
This sounds like the typical plot to a bad anime
Bain Correctional Center has been in the same place for so long that Google Maps literally has a 3D model of it
3:33 I like how the graph starts at 1888
Nobody “lives” in the East River, so I guess, technically, that’s correct; but plenty of people who ran afoul of the many decades of NYC mob bosses do, indeed, _rest_ there though..
Wish you all the best in that spree, Sam💚
I wish I could watch it but , you know, here in Syria it's somewhat hard to get 15$/year and a reliable internet connection.
5:18 all I have to say is NO. I want that show.
Congratulations on 2 mil.
0:10 That's a throwback.
Suspending the gold standard was supposed to be temporary as well.
00:08 The Diamond Princess joke at the beginning 💀💀💀
3:50 : seems to start at 1880 ;)
Just remember Ed Koch rhymes with crotch. Do that and I will forgive you about the graph starting in 1888.
I remember watching them build this when crossing the Huey P Long bridge
Congrats HAI on 2mil!
That stock video prisoner's shoes have some nice hangin' laces there...
Is that an actual show because I'm actually interested
Wait ryker's island is a real thing? It seemed like such a stupid idea I was sure it was just made up for spiderman, along with the raft.
It's real. Built on landfill with only a bridge to go in or out. Also next to another landfill called LGA airport lol
Small mistake on your graph at 4:00, the leftmost year is 1888, when i assume its supposed to be 1988, given you said 30 years ago
Bibby Resolution and Bibby Venture we're initially used to house British soldiers in the Falklands after the Falklands War in 1982
1:12 Carnival has some competition there 😂
Loved the Lorem Ipsum in the 'news article'!
Was just going to post this. Everyone’s tripping about the graph, but there’s not enough love for the typography. :)
You can't wiki Ed Koch and learn that his name is pronounced KOTCH and not COKE?
Love the Stefan reference
wait... is the crime spree show actually gonna be a thing? was he serious?
That's what i wanna know
A few years back the UK Govt. toyed with the idea of buying a floating prison from somewher or other. There was a massive backlash and they dropped it like a hot brick. i wonder if this was the tub?
What a lot of people seem to have forgotten is that Giulliani was on his way to prison. He had been using a fleet of buses to shuttle homeless people from shelter to shelter across New York to make them less visible by spreading them out, which also trapped them in homelessness by preventing them from getting jobs, contacting landlords, or connecting with social services. A judge ruled this was a violation of civil rights and ordered Giulliani to stop -- which he completely ignored. A judge had just ruled Giulliani in contempt of court when 9/11 happened and everything was quietly swept under the rug, because the civil rights of a bunch of smelly poor people were much less important than waving a patriotic flag.
Cry more
I see nothing wrong with any of this. Yay flag waving.
@@ElValuador Cope
@@fica1137 🥴
@@ElValuador Tribalism is dumb. All it does is show you're incapable of critical thought, and in the absence of the ability to think, you just take Great White Father's views as holy doctrine. It results in ridiculous self-harm from arguments about things like basic medical hygiene during a worldwide pandemic, ecological devastation from climate change, or -- as in this case -- the elimination of civil rights meant to protect _everyone_ from abuse.
4:01 You labelled 1988 as 1888
i will be disliking the video because of this
Good idea. Could probably move it out to sea and use resupply ships.
What a great title sequence!
"which was built on the foundation of a landfill"- caught me by surprise, funny
It's Ed Koch, Ko-"ch". He was the Judge on people's court from 97-99 theres videos on RUclips you can reference for pronunciation.... Did I do it? Do I make the Mistakes video at the end of the year? Also,
The new series looks awesome!
If someone mispronounces their own name, are they wrong?
Will always thumbs up any video that throws shade at Staten Island.
Great video.
The Stefan SNL reference already made this video 10/10
I think the location of the floating prison in the thumbnail is slightly wrong. It was on the other side of Bronx river, literally next to the big island.
Hunts point is still basically the scariest place in all of NYC
Pretty sure the prison on the boat could easily fit on the parking lot
This is a nightmare. I had no idea this even existed.
I work with on the NYC Ferry and the line runs right next to it haha
His name is pronounced Ko-TCH not Ko-KE like the Koch brothers.
You've done it again!
3:44 another one for the HAI error record books
"Having mayors that suck" *Shows brand new mayor of NYC*...
Well, someone isn't happy with the election results. At least he rides the subway instead of being driven across midtown?
The man just got elected
someone doesn't like cops lmao
@@georgewuzheer well, that person certainly isn't Mayor Adams...
Happy 2mil!
Stephan reference was awesome lol
"Really sea sick and also regular sick- and also starved."
*Hydrofoils* are like planes, for if the sky was wet.
Boats are like airships, for if the sky was wet.
The later ones don't need to move to stay in thier intended environments.
Although the most accurate aqueous equivalent to airships would be submarines or U-Boote as us germans like to call them.
Coming from SI, that burned! On the plus side, our jail was closed in 2011, and turned into film studio
Jail and prison are not the same thing. Ed Koch is pronounced like it's spelled. And prison populations increased from the 60s to the 80s because crime quadrupled.
Not sure why you compare this to slave ships, and not to the prison ship martyrs which is much more topical for New York.
He's a leftist. He doesn't care about facts.
Nit picking aside this is a great episode.
I love how the Guinness text is all 10000% gibberish @ 0:35 seconds lol
Somehow, there are more planes than getaway cars in the title sequence to Sam's show about committing crimes.
So many fun facts! Fun fun fun
1:57
that's immediately where my brain went when I clicked this video - I was like and the irony
that's a weird way to describe LaGuardia
Id love to see that show but i dont have a creditcard and neither do my parents:(
I do hate the prison system, but I do love that background track...
Btw, Ed Koch’s name is pronounced the way it sounds not Coke, like the rich brothers.
Also, Hunts Point is still not gentrified
"This prison sucks."
IT'S PRISON, NOT DISNEYLAND.
As a Staten Island resident it’s a prison cause you have to pay pretty much every way to leave the island
100 cells for 870 inmates? That‘s f***ed up.
The Stefon reference!
Cars. They are basically planes if the air was road.
The chilean prison ship is called La Esmeralda.
That title sequence need more plane shots.
Ah the year just 2 before 1990, 1888.
Hey, is this that fever dream i had yesterday?
The sky is wet. Before the ground is wet the sky is wet and then the wet on the ground rises and makes the sky wet again