What Happened?! Stolen Mod Content Found In Battlefront Collection
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Well this is tiresome... One of 2024's worst reviewed games has been found to contain uncredited modder work. Something very strange happened here.
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This is not the first or even second time Star Wars has taken fan content. While it is there IP.
It is really just their lazy no-good employees taking it so they can make an easy pay check.
Cheaters and Modders don't deserve credit. They're a bunch of Freeloaders.
Publisher/dev includes mod content in a major release - “We made a mistake.”
Third party makes out-of-print game available via emulation - “We will sue you and everyone you’ve ever met!”
I wonder what would happen if Steam received a DMCA request. Legally, they'd have to comply or could also be liable for copyright infringement.
They should take this off the store and refund everyone. What a disaster.
Na - the company that released it is too big to fail. Despite this being borderline as bad a scam as the last game the force refunded everyone and delisted the game, this will never get removed from the store
Na, the gamers that bought this are getting what they diserve.
@@MrRhoidRageAspyr is not that big. It can indeed fail.
@@Deliveredmean42 might want to look at their track record, you may not be familiar with them lol
yall are malding, the game is fine. Theyre going to fix the gaps. You and half the review bombers need to touch grass
Starwars just catching L from all forms of media
They worked hard to earn all those L's
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Star Wars prints money. they have to put in loads of effort to absolutely shit the bed repeatedly.
And somehow George Lucas is endorsing it. He sided with Disney after everything thats happened. I guess if youve got a billion dollars you stop being a normal human being.
@@StonieTark You were supposed to bring balance to the force Disney, not leave it in darkness! You were the Chosen One!
Good. Star Wars has a cool world but the games and shows/movies have always been so mid except for the first 3.
if a normal person did this, they would get sued and get annihilated off the face of the earth by the company in question, ruin their entire lively hood.
but because it's a company doing this, they can scoot by on any number of excuses as too why this is o k to do for them but not for customers and face zero repercussions.
it's no wonder the gaming industry is falling apart at the hinges, we have zero reason to trust these AAA game companies anymore.
Not just gaming, this is happening in literally every industry
If this refers to the mod Code included in the game. Basicly as a mod creator you dont have many rights on your mod because at the end you use the Code of the original game. If aspyr wants they could take all mods offline or sue everyone to take them offline
@@leongamin3834 Not quite, mods are new content, even if it edits the base game. That is why Blizzard had to include the section about having rights to content created for SC2. Company has copyright for IP, but it does not cover mods. Like some company owns Harry Potter movies, but not parody skits from youtube.
@@leongamin3834 Untrue. You have no right to make money off of it and the copyright holder can order you to stop distribution etc. However they do not own your work. Ever. Unless you make a deal with them.
Some EULAs include that the copyright holder owns the mods but those are of extremely questionable legality. And I doubt a game this old included that anyways. That only started being a thing after the DOTA debacle and blizzard loosing out on that massively.
@leongamin3834 you are part of the reason these companies can do this kind of shit and get away with it. They have the rights to the IP, not the work being done by fans of a 15+ year old set of games with zero credit given to the people who made the original mod of an ABANDONWARE title. No matter what way you dice it, this is straight-up theft
Quick correction at 4:45. The mod's creator doesn't own the "material" (the modded character), but neither does LucasFilms. Lucas (or rather now Disney) own the character IP, but don't own any of the work the modder did, hence they can't publish it without his consent. The modder owns the work he did, but not the IP, so _he_ can't publish it without Disney's consent. They're deadlocked, neither can publish the material without the other's consent.
PS: All that is excluding contract law, I don't know if the old BF2 EULA had provisions for handling the ownership of mods.
I like this interpretation
@@bouncedayNot much of an interpretation. That is just very clearly how copyright works in the US. The details differ in different legislations. Some don't have copyright in the same sense in the first place. Yet this is still a pretty common point.
@@XMysticHerox I'm pretty sure a creator's original work is under copyright by default in all jurisdictions that have ratified the Berne convention. If the modder created the model and the animation, or even transformed them sufficiently, the result is his IP. He can't distribute it without violating Lucas IP that covers the character name and concept, but no one can distribute his work without consent either. It would be very tricky to devise a EULA that gets around that and it would likely be unenforceable. Distributing the files, even in unplayable/unreachable state, is still unauthorized copying and distribution.
The likely version is that Aspyr used the modded content as a placeholder and didn't have time/attention/bandwidth to elide it, so it's improbable that they intended to violate his rights, especially since it would've likely been easy to get permission if they did want to use it. While the optics are bad, I don't think it's review-bomb worthy, especially because it might kill future ports/remasters.
Yeah its still starwars IP and licensed character. The mod is not protected under these circumstances
@@paulie-g I agree, it's far more likely that having had success with incorporating modders content in Tomb Raider, they did a speculative build of Battlefront with some modders content included, with a view to seeing how well it worked and to demo it internally to present to decision-makers about maybe bringing those modders on board. I'm guessing that went nowhere due to all the fun and games with Embracer, and through poor internal communication, or team members leaving during this unstable time, the modded content never got removed from the build.
Then during the clearly rushed shitshow of trying to get this "ready" for release, the feedback from the trailers about this content being there wasn't executed on either, which isn't a surprise because everything else is so clearly broken too. This probably never made it up the priority list high enough.
Finally they do deactivate the content, but don't remove it from the game files, that's reasonable too (as an interim step) because a) they're far less likely to break something if they just deactivate it rather than try to remove it, and when they're trying to fix as many things at once as quickly as they can, they SHOULD be making that kind of prioritization, b) the assets might be packed inside a large bundle that complicates the process of patching on older titles across multiple platforms. (Even just adding more QA burden to a clearly overburdened QA process isn't helpful right now.)
They're in fire-fighting mode, they don't have the luxury of making ideal fixes, they have to make the expedient band-aid fixes to stem the bleeding until they're out of fire-fighting mode. (To mix metaphors.)
None of this is to say that anything they've done is good, or right, but it seems another case of "don't ascribe to maliciousness what can be adequately explained by incompetence".
I don't know how common it is elsewhere, but one of the things I think is really fascinating about Wube/Factorio is that they've outright hired some of their most prominent modders to help them develop their DLC/2.0 version. Would be awesome if *that* kind of recognition happened more often, too.
Whoops. Commented before the discussion of Tomb Raider :P
You say it's fascinating, I say It makes absolute sense. If I were to hire anybody to work on either on an existing game or any future sequel, the first thing I'd do is contact every single prominent modder and ask them if they are interested. You want people with both talent and passion, modders are the prime crop for finding those kind of people. The fascinating (or baffling rather) part is why don't MORE gaming companies do exactly that. I am aware of a few examples but it should be standard practice. In fact making a good and popular mod for a video game should be one of the most valuable thing you could put on your resume when applying for any position at the company who made said game.
Talent, passion and knowledge of the software environment. They basically onboarded themselves before there was even talk of hiring.
For sure. I just haven't heard about it outside of this and Wube, even though it makes so much sense to me@@RiskOfBaer
Too much greed though. Why pay for what's free...
There is no C&C 4, its an optical Illusion created by EA.
no mobile game ever made either,
No browser game either
Just. Get. The. Originals.
100% this. Me and some friends have been hopping on the originals for some multiplayer since this collection came out, and it really surprises me how stable it is, and that's not just compared to the collection, I mean just about any other game released nowadays too.
Not everyone has PC
@@Uzdefizedwho doesn’t have a PC in the current year? That’s like not having a fridge.
@@_Mutto_ I have multiple friends who don’t own a PC. I’m assuming anyone who liked my comment before more than likely doesn’t own a PC.
@@_Mutto_ btw this doesn’t mean I don’t find this company corrupt for stealing modders content. I personally now think it’s morally wrong to buy this product however I already bought it and can’t refund it so I’m just going to enjoy it as ignorant as that probably is. But it’s until I can afford to legally buy the version for PC cause I have a gaming laptop
It actually makes a lot of sense to hire the modders. approaches each game with fresh eyes needing to figure out how it all works. The modders ALREADY KNOW how the game works. You could pay prices for what is essentially an expert-level dev in that specific project. The literal only reason NOT to hire the modders is pride / hubris.
This happened surprisingly often back in the 90's. Namely, there's "Master Levels for Doom II". The original release included a massive side collection of hundreds of fan-made mods, many of which included copyrighted content references like The Simpsons or whatever else was hugely popular in the 90's. That "side collection" has been cut out of modern releases which only include the paid mod levels of the Master Levels proper.
to be fair that was a bit of a case of not many had internet so this was more or less the only way to get mods that was not just a 5KB map or something and usally that thing was decent whit crediting (presuming the source they got the file from was properly set up and all that).
Like PC gamer magazine would include 1-2 mods whit there CD for a game.
and yee the copyright stuff like simpson was bad but then so was the copyright stuff from some of the dev straight up.
not sure if Doom had any copyright stuff in its early game but... stuff.
@@Zack_Wester Thanks to AOL the internet really exploded in popularity at that time. It wasn't that not many had internet access, it was that not everyone yet did. I'm not sure what the split was, but I'd say by the time Master Levels for Doom II came out it was pretty common. Still, including a bunch of mods without permission from their creators was a scummy thing to do when they were making money off the sales.
Is, IS a scummy thing to do, by modern standards. I should clarify at the time, no one really thought it was a big deal, hence why id dared to even do it in the first place. The reasoning at the time was something like "well, they uploaded it to the internet for free anyway so...", but yeah, not crediting them or getting permission when money is changing hands is the key thing there.
@@Dark_Jaguar To be fair the concepts and institutional knowledge in the industry around copyright wasn't really there in the 90s, in fact the entire legal status of mods was still very much an open question (as was stuff like fanfic and cosplay) even among people who DID understand copyright. The concepts behind open source and free licences were only just starting to be figured out and hadn't penetrated into the modding scene. I mean, there were still arguments around the use of samplers in music going on during that decade, or whether TiVos were illegal. Oh and for internet distribution, whether your ISP was legally liable for you downloading copyright infringing content or search engines for linking to it were also both open questions.
@@Ylyrra Odd thing is costuming fan characters has been around a good long time, with the earliest example I'm aware of, that is someone just going around dressing up like their favorite fictional alien, happening in the early 1910s.
@@Dark_Jaguar Didn't say it didn't have a long history, just that the laws around it didn't hit the spotlight until it started to become vastly more popular in the west in the 90s.
LucasArts/Disney does not in fact own content created by modders outside their own modding platforms. They can block the modder from distributing or monetizing their self made content, but they can't legally use it without comming to an agreement with the modder first.
That's in part why a lot of dev/publisher owned modding platforms have those EULA clauses that the mods copyright get transfered when the modder uploads their mods to that platform.
I find it so funny that Aspyr did this regarding mods for the BF Collection, yet somehow, KotOR 2 which actually marketed adding the restored content stuff was cut entirely.
From what I heard, the modder for Asajj Ventress fixed the animation and saw his out dated mod in the trailer and advised them to use his newest version with the fixed combat stance and animations..
Absolute Superman level high-ground reaction to having your content stolen.
It's pretty outrageous to think your paying for a game that you modded because the developers didn't finish their work, then to see your work being stolen and used. 🎉 The state of gaming is just abysmal.
Unfucking real, really. I am so tired of this game industry remaster fuck ups jesus christ... ugh 😫Aspyr... to what? Video game fuck ups as Bellular said, imagine not being a good citizen in the game developement space. Unbelievable.
It's pretty outrageous people still pay any amount to EA, or the numerous other companies that are the exact same. Do people not know how to keep their money? Like, are people so fucking stupid they see that EA hasn't done anything good in years, yet will still pay them for ANY product? I must have missed the memo that as a gamer I had to toss my brain in the garbage.
Lol thats not why they mod
@@beekeeperbrad6251 sure, most create content. But a lot of us will mod to debug and fix code. Some of us do full overhauls.
Not sure what your getting at here. But no disagreement really.
The copyright holder absolutely does not own other peoples work. They just have a right to control distribution (in the US but I am not aware of any legislation where this differs). Stealing this work is absolutely illegal. There is precedent too with mods like DOTA.
Been saying this exact thing. Simply starting in the terms and conditions "we own you. We own all of your work. We own your cat. Click here if you agree." Does not give them any legal right to you, your creative works, or in fact, your cat.
Interestingly, mods and other works are *not* the property of the studio that made the game. This was something that caused all sorts of hoops to jump through when the Sony game Landmark was about due to being able to sell your in-game creations to other players. Players had to register with the American Tax system in order to participate in the in-game market place, and that was all for things created in-game using in-game tools.
Most companies and corporations only care about two things: 1) what is technically legal and 2) making the most money doing the least work.
A note on who owns what a modder makes: Unless there is something in an Eula or agreement then the modder has all the rights to what they made, but the company owns the IP. This ends up making a deadlock where neither of them can publish that mod unless both agree.
Why am i not surprised?
Remaking a game people loved 20 years ago and failing has got to be some sort of achievement
Modder absolutely owns the rights to their own animations
4:48 Actually the modder would own the animations and pose files, those are not IP derivatives.
Depend on if he used the software distrubuted with the game for the specific purpose or if he used outside software that is just compatible with the game.
We would NEVER steal from a modder and sell it in our product as our own *desperately kicking the stolen mod under the rug leaving a stolen mod shaped lump*
It's amazing how aspyre has completely redone their reputation in a matter of months...
You know about gaming companies lol how nerdy is that 😂
Months? Aspyr has a years-long history of botching Star Wars ports and remasters. This is nothing new and not at all surprising.
Let's be clear, they don't have any legal right to incorporate mod code, even if they own the copyright for the game. It'd be like Adobe taking a 3rd party plugin for photoshop and adding it to photoshop without crediting/paying the author. It's inexcusable.
To be fair, this was on the employee level. Someone wanted to shorten their workday, so they borrowed the mods. Still, unacceptable to put through QA.
Unless the original game had a TOS clause that said they did. Almost every game released after Warcraft had that clause in its TOS, battlefront is no exception.
at minimum they should have given credit
You are very mistaken. They are 100 percent able to do so. The mod author already broke tos and could be considered guilty of copyright infringement since they used the games models etc. I am certain they hold no copyright over their work they basically forfeited all their hard work. Why do you think Bethesda was able to come out with creations with similar or exact papyrus code to existing mods. and nothing was done about it. Your comparison to adobe doesn't work due to how the patent and copyright work it is not the same as making a mod for a game that using mods is against their tos. Is it slimy what they did? Yes. Is it EA's right to use it? Yes.
Worst games of 2023... broken janky licensed messes.
Worst games of 2024... ports of 20 year old games with "borrowed" mod content, no support and weird random bugs that weren't in the original.
What a time to live in.
Yeah it's amazing, it's like gaming standards just keep getting lower while CEO profits just go right on up. LOL
No the modders do legally own the distinct parts of what they make. They may not own what it's based on and so can't legally distribute but they do own that. It's just modders generally don't have the resources to defend that.
The worst part is they didnt just steal the mod, they stole an OLD VERSION of the mod. The current version has the proper models and animations and has for a while.
If a mod is officially added without permission then the modder should be payed as a developer as recompense
Developers: "Stop stealing our code!!"
Also Developers: "Imma take some from here, some from there."
I always assumed Aspyr was meant to be pronounced the same as "aspire"...no?
Yes... idk why this is so difficult for so many people
Why though? There's no e at the end of aspyr. I dont even think it should be pronouced the way English language would dictate pronoucation here, it sounds more natural when you pronouce A in way the germans would and with hard r at the end. Though its probably my bias from not speaking English natively
They pulled a Garden of Eyes
I am more vindicated that people run defense of bad devs by blaming the "management"
Might have used the wrong name in the description 🤔 "Battlefront"
I don't know that your legal analysis is correct. The modder does not own the character's likeness, but they created the animations and they could have copyrighted that completely independently of the game. They may not have, but they still own their original work...those animations could be applied to non-star wars characters. I don't see how it's owned by Lucasfilm.
The original tombraiders had the "starring lara croft" on the box as that was part of the indiana jones styling.
Pretty sure the modders original work contained in the mod would be considered as being theirs even if the way to access it is owned by a publisher or ip holder.
That explains why it’s 25 GB.
Originally it was going to be 100 gb
It’s 70
Only on switch. It's like 50gb everywhere else from what I'm seeing online.
That Tomb Raider Remaster was absolutely a blast to play through and I did think it was highly respectful to the original games.
It's a real shame they dropped the ball on this Star Wars collection.
When it comes to modding work (or most any other kind of fan derivatives, like fan art). The modder does actually own the copyright to the original work that was done to make the mod. However, the modder does not own the IP that his work is using, so what the modder can legally do with the mod is a legal grey area but it is generally accepted that the owners of the IP can legally shutdown most mods at their discretion.
Since the modder owns the copyright to their own work that they put into the mod then what others can do with it is yet another legal grey area, but what is definitely not allowed is taking that work without permission for commercial gain, even if you own the original IP the mod is derived from. So Aspyre is infringing on the modders copyright if they simply copy and pasted the code from the mod. Now if Aspyre was inspired by the mod to put in their own work to replicate the mod, then they are in the clear. But based on how much effort Aspyre actually put into the development of this remake, I highly doubt they did any original work to replicate the mod.
There's usually a clause in most modern game TOS that permits the developer to commercialize and distribute user generated content.
There's an indie studios (Aether studios) running a super smash inspired platform fighter (Rivals of Aether) that hired one of the best modders after the said modder showed how talented they were making mods after the game gave workshop support.
I'd love to know how you "accidentally" include unlicensed work in your trailers.
I didn't buy the game because I use mods every so often. I recognized the mods and I just assumed that they were allowed. Crazy.
Lucas film does not own the modern question they own the character they don’t own the animations that were made
Hey I just wanted to point the real reason command and conquer 4 is on that list. They forced you to buy it in a bundle, but it doesn't work. They ask you to log into broken servers to launch the game, even for single player. I was forced to buy this bundle so I could play red alert two, thought I would try that one out only to figure out I had been scammed.
Yeah even the steamdb method was failing :/ so you couldnt get only the C&C games you wanted (I wanted C&C3,TIberium sun/RA1-3, and Generals/Zero Hour) but no I have to get all of them :/
I am not a lawyer, but a game company directly financially benefiting from a game mod they did not create probably is breaking that modder's basic copyrights for their artistic creations, at least in the US anyway.
The modder themself can't sell the mod because they'd be breaking intellectual property law, but I'm pretty sure no Intellectual property law allows for creative works distributed for free to suddenly be used directly for financial gain for the IP owners UNLESS the property is seized in a civil(?) lawsuit. Otherwise, game companies would regularly be taking mods created for their games and selling them on their own storefronts. This would have killed the modding scene ages ago.
It doesn't seem like it should be about what is "right", and more about what is "legal". Obviously working with modders and citing them, or god forbid, paying them for their work, would be the best course of action here, however, companies don't care about what is right, and only care about what they can get away with without pissing off their paying customers.
LOL remember when C&C remaster team actually got in touch with community and modders to have then Q&A test and help with bringing the remaster into a good playable state that community would be mostly satisfied with.. and that was an EA game LMAO
Class action Bay-bee!
More and more competency crisis confirmation
"We all understand that" well, clearly not. And it's a bad idea to keep things as they are, expecting things to come from the goodwill of corporations. Because they don't have any.
If this was in academia, those responisble would have their reputations stained
I heard the GOG versions of the games have online. I wonder if they play better than the remasters
"Don't expect Todd Haward to hire you", I mean, it is very unlikely, I do agree. Funny enough though, a Skyrim modder got hired for Starfield :p
million dollar company with hundreds of employees and there's 40 bugs....wtf
LOL, he mentioned StarField. I had completely forgotten that game existed. Kind of tells you something, right?
I've said it once, I will say it again, it is illegal to steal someone's work without recognition or compensation, trying to pass it off as your own and worse trying to profit from it. You can claim whatever you want in Terms and conditions, that does not automatically make it legal to steal someone's work, modder or otherwise
EMBRACER cash grab. They prpbably figured that since it was Star Wars people would buy it regardless of it's quality. Well done Aspyr Media, you have now volunteered for the next round of EMBRACER GROUP cuts, cya.
Whether they own the character or not, i feel wouldn't matter on the grounds that its not someone at the companies work. Someone at the company willingly made the choice to steal someone elses modifications. They dont own the character, but the work is theirs.
Boss: You know how you did Tomb Raider and put out a good thing and people really liked it?
Dev: ...Yeah...
Boss: Yeah well we're doing Star Wars. Don't do any of the things you did for Tomb Raider.
actually YES! the modder DOES own that material.
While Disney own the character...
the modder owns... the model, the rig, the animation and the code.
None of which are owned by the publisher, who needs to seek legal permission to use those assets. Usually obtained via monatory transaction, otherwise it's intelectual theft.
Aspyr sucks... seeing how KOTOR 2 was mishandled by them, I'm not surprised they fucked this up too
to be fair Tomb raider has a lot of similar issues to battlefront which surprisingly wasn't mentioned at all in this video. Like how they released multiple different versions of the game on different stores which have different content
the tomb raider "1 through 3" seems to be a language barrier issue. i read it as "1 to 3" which would make it a great name as it also sounds like 1 2 3
I get that modders aren't going to be able to claim rights over content based on another company's IP etc, but if you have, for example, created your own animations (models, textures etc) surely you retain some sort of ownership over that data unless you've signed some sort of agreement in the process of publishing the mod?
Hot coffee rules apply, if it’s in the files, it’s in the files
BellularNews: We're dealing with the worst user rated game of 2024!
Dragons Dogma 2: Hold my beer.
I think one of the first companies that I'm aware of who hired modders was Valve. I wonder what they are up to nowadays...
How fitting this came out within the same month as the disastrous Acolyte trailer and George Lucas betraying the SW Fandom by backing Bob Iger, the man who ultimately destroyed his legacy.
Moral rights help protect a creator's honour and reputation, as well as the integrity of a work. They last for the same time as copyright, except the false attribution right, which expires 20 years after a creator's death.
They should have made this collection open to LAN parties. The games play on old laptops. So near anyone can play. Not doing this was just dumb.
No surprise. Disney has been stealing content from fan creators since they bought the franchise from Lucas.
Fan made ships getting straight traced into comics. Renders minimally edited and passed off as their own designs.
Disney has power and money and litigation capacity for days... so they face no consequences for just taking things. Mods are far less protected than 3d renders and drawings are.
I like how when game companies re-release games they already made they somehow manage to fuck it up.
This is not the first or even second time Star Wars has taken fan content. While it is there IP.
It is really just their lazy no-good employees taking it so they can make an easy pay check.
What a shame. The classic Battlefronts were really good games. They deserved better than all this.
Plot twist: Bethesda has raided the modding community for talent in the past - some for the mod stores, some were hired as actual employees. Peeps that cut their teeth on Skyrim and Fallout 4 have worked on Starfield. It is a possible route into the industry, although not a guaranteed one.
Damn dog you are like...a week too late for this one. Early bird gets the worm with gaming news.
No, the moddet DOES own their work even if they don't own the IP
Weirdest story of the week, this was not on my bingo card
This story also happened last week. He’s a little slow to this story.
A bit saddening seeing this game get ducked on so hard, I remember this game being one of my all time favorite games back in the PS2 days.
Sucks seeing yet another classic get mishandled so poorly and it's reputation getting drove into the ground as a result (just like the original GTA games).
However, there is the original Star Wars Battlefront II on steam that is separate from the collection version at least (until they pull another GTA and delist the original... assuming it hasn't happened already I don't keep up with such things).
Dont forget the chad modder was not against them using it, but against using outdated versions of the mod and even asked if they need help.
This is where copyright law is murky..
Lucas films owns the IP... But that person created a custom model. So while yes Lucas films has the right to claim copyright infirngement... Does that give them and any other company the right to use the creative works (model) of the person without their compensation? It would essentially mean that they have the right to steal anyone's fanart and print+resell it.. Which doesn't feel right.
I don’t know what your talking about, Westwood/EA didn’t make a C+C4. Doesn’t exist.
And remember!!! If you own it digital, the company says you don’t really own it and can take it from you
Re the KOTOR remake, I’m honestly very curious what that will end up looking like. I played the everliving shit out of both KOTOR games, but having gone back and played them again recently? The mechanics and gameplay loops are TERRIBLE. They’re aggressively bad.
A remake that replaced gameplay with something more like Jedi Fallen Order or Jade Empire would be far more successful with new players, but would enrage the old school people. A loyal remake would only appeal to original players and a lot of us wouldn’t buy it (I know I wouldn’t). It seems to me that there really isn’t a way to actually make the game that would carry mass appeal.
bellular, have you never played an Aspyr game?
their pre-menu video clip is literally a woman saying the name of the company while the logo gets hit with lens flare
and she says "asp IRE"
like the word 'aspire'
not 'asper'
i'm not a dev so this could be wrong in so many ways. why did this team need to basically remake the game? couldn't they have just gotten the old files, replaced the texture files and such, and call it good? i would think spending $20 to get the old files from a place like steam would save so much time and effort than basically remaking the entire game with an absurdly big file size.
What you described is exactly what they did. But worse. They just upscaled ALL textures to 8k using ai and called it a day. And of course game was unplayable at launch because they didnt adapt anything properly
i blame bethesda for breaking the door wide open on selling other peoples mods, now the 40 extra GB's of storage space makes sense
C&C4 was the worst and killed C&C, level 3 was multiplayer only and if you played SP you could never get past it.
Dragon’s Dogma 2: Hold my beer!
Can someone explain how games release with mods? Surely they have the official OG version. Wouldn't you have to specifically find a modded version of the game in order to have said mod on the release. I am aware that mods are user created add-ons. But you can't usually buy a game that comes with user made mods. I think just seems weird that you would have to go out of your way to get a modded game and then say no no, its OG.
How the hell could they mess the OG up? Just make it pretty for a modern audience and it would've printed money.
Laziest game I've seen in a long, long time. These corps really think they can just put out the worst garbage they can conjure up and have us eat it up like some fucking cake...terrible drop, terrible remaster, used mods instead of just making a new animation for a fucking 20 year old game. How is it even possible to fuck a remaster up this bad? some activision type shit
Something tells me I should not get the collection since I have the old og games on xbox and steam and should just stick with them instead for nostalgia sake...I could not believe I have made the right choice with all this going on especially with mods being used in this dumpster fire.
As usual - bookkeeper spoiling fun...
I started to loose hope on video game industry 😢
Even if the game company owns the content by not giving the original author credit for their work they committed plagiarism. I wonder if they could be sued for not giving the author of the code credit. I bet that is why they are patching it out.
In my opinion embracer group wanted them to move on from kotor 2 and move on to the next project.
"Yeah, we done fucked up, sorry about that- we're trying to fix our fuckup and get in touch with original creator to figure something out, sorry about that, we screwed up."
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if there is something that I really dont understand, is not that they botched a 20 year old game (like seriously, they cant even make triple A games so how are they gonna make ANY games)
they went in with the XBOX version, which has the DLC characters...... WHY NOT USE THEM and not steal a mod from the PC platform.
Honestly, I flipped over to your channel to see if you were addressing the Dragon's Dogma debacle, but seriously, there's not enough hours in the day for you to cover all the ****iness of gaming companies.