This rendition totally reminds me of an emotionally abused victim trying to convince herself that it's all normal, I love this!! So much deeper than the original
Janey Grace in a lot of ways the last 5 years is a mutually emotionally toxic relationship. They both get caught up in their careers and focus on the relationship mostly when it's gone wrong already and Jamie has given up.
I agree, I always saw this song as Jamie projecting and assuming that the problems in the relationship where due to Cathy's insecurities and a jealousy of his success rather than owning up to how his own flaws and emotional absence might be hurting the relationship. Seeing those assumptions portrayed as a message that has been totally adopted and internalized by Cathy makes it all the more heartbreaking
Very interesting. I actually saw it as a beautiful and hope-inspiring rendition from a kind of Kathy who finally believed Jamie when he tells her that he brlieves in her. Does that make sense? Kind of like a really insecure woman who has to tell herself 'he does believe in you and this means you can really do it'. A healty kind of monologe.
I have always wanted a lesbian last five years with two women (because Jamie and Cathy can both be feminine names) but JRB has said "no way" to that idea. =(
Siri Hammond I get that it would be awesome, but maybe he's said no because 1. Transposing sucks oof and 2. It would paint a lesbian relationship in a bad light, which is kinda not something we need right now. But, as a girl who absolutely loves Jamie's songs, I hope it'll happen eventually
k rather than paint them in a bad light, I think it’d just show a realistic portrayal of a relationship. Sometimes partners fight and sometimes relationships just don’t work out. I think it’d be a cool idea, but I agree it could be taken badly.
@@robylopezvi yeah theres def abuse and bad stuff possible in queer relationships too just like straight ones so i feel like maybe its a silly take to say no to a queer version of the show just bc it would paint them in a bad light. a lot of ppl seem to think wlw relationships r all good and happy and easier than straight ones so honestly i think itd be a good message to show that no, they can be just as messy and just as hard bc at the end of the day its still a relationship and sometimes people just dont work out together.
One of the better versions I saw was by Jonathan Bailey who does this thing where he turns to leave & comes back like, I feel bad but I need to pile it on so you don’t get I’m trying to gaslight you now. I wanna perform this so bad, but have a few beats. Like in the movie where you can see the horror on his face because he said she was a loser who can’t win. & then he’s preparing to gaslight her into going. Sooooo powerful.
I love the emotion and rawness that Laura brings to this rendition. She absolutely nailed this interpretation of Cathy's character. Can we have a Laura and Jeremy reunion for a revival, please?
I was really skeptical going into this, but it turned out to be one of the most tragic and heartbreaking things I've ever seen and I'm just over here silently sobbing.
That was a really unique interpretation of the song- completely changes how the scene is viewed and the feelings the song evokes. It’s hard to pull off a big change like that successfully, however this was been done with a subtle elegance that brings a new beauty to the song. Congrats. That’s what a true musician and performer does. Bravo.
I had a really hard time letting go of my perceptions of Jamie throughout the song, but by the end its almost cathartic as she takes both a generous AND gracious stance in her self-reflection. I wonder if the whole show was role reversed, would it not just be a depiction of an emotionally healthy relationship?
@@StateOfTheInitiative that is a brilliant point. ive often thought how great it would be to see this show done with the roles reversed. i hope someone is brave enough to do it one day. it could be truly groundbreaking.
If it's switched it becomes like that, in the original material she doesn't feel like this but it's really interesting to see what he was kina expecting of her
@@Some_Call_Me_Pietro no, it’s because this is what Cathy’s hearing from Jamie in her POV which makes it much more painful and makes Cathy more insecure than she already is not what she was initially thinking. It’s harder to think of what Cathy’s thinking when Jamie was telling her this, but with this POV i feel like we can see how it sort of turned out like gaslighting
While Laura has sung it really beautifully and added a new sense to this already beautiful song, it wouldn't work in the show. Cathy was stuck in her head and all. BUT that's the point of cabaret singers! And i'm really happy to get this version it really gets a whole new meaning
I am so used to her being the perfect princess in these but damn when she wants to sing something else it's amazing to watch just her presence is so captivating and she sings with such conviction
This is such a beautiful recreation of what is in my opinion the most important song in The Last 5 Years. Gives such a new perspective and if it had been this way in the show, they would've probably stayed together. Laura did an EXCELLENT job. Just....chills. Like I'm actually sobbing
Wow. No words, just tears in my eyes. It hits different when these words actually come from Cathy herself, rather than hearing them from Jamie. It hurts so much more.
I didn't think this song could be any more sad, but here we are. Also, if she had this perspective in the show they probably would have ended up staying together.
ikr? that's why this is one of the more powerful lyric changes. i feel like they would have a better chance of staying together if cathy learned this about herself. of course jamie had faults that he didn't learn either in the og text, but maybe if jamie sung "see i'm smiling" they would've both stayed together. in the real show neither of them really change their ways, which is heartbreaking.
Wow. What a striking rendition of this song. The change in perspective that brings empowerment rather than condemnation. Crazy. Laura also sings this with emotion and conviction.
Especially combined with his next song. She was clearly just someone who worshiped him enough & wasn’t a Jewish girl. I don’t think he ever truly loved her like she loved him. She loved him because he dazzled her & was exciting & fascinating & gave her everything she wanted & she loved HIM for it. She was just the exciting non Jewish girl & it could have been anyone. He just needs to be worshiped & adored & put on a pedestal. Any girl will do, until she won’t. I mean in the movie it’s clear it’s multiple girls who all hear the same thing “And since I have to be in love with someone Since I need to be in love with someone Maybe I could be in love with someone Like you”. It’s really sad the power dynamic. Usually I’m on the guys sides in stories, but he’s absolutely toxic and the #literalworst.
It’s really screwed up to listen to the original version, then, this, and think ‘ crap, was she actually what was going through Cathy’s head? ‘. It makes me so sad, for some reason.
Okay but I want a gender flipped TL5Y where Cathy is begging Jamie to support her career and telling him she will not fail so he can be comfortable in his
There are people And they are publishing his book And there's a party that they are throwing And while I've made it very clear that I’m not going He will be going And that's done But what's it really about? Is this really about a party Cathy? Can I please for a minute stop blaming and say how I feel? Is it just that I’m disappointed to be touring again for the summer? Did I think this would all be much easier than it’s turned out to be? Well then talk to him Cathy, Talk to him. If he didn’t believe in you He’d never have gotten this far. If he didn’t believe in you And all of the ten thousand women you are If he didn’t think you could do anything that you ever wanted to If he wasn’t certain that you’d come through somehow The fact of the matter is Cathy he wouldn’t be standing here now. If he didn’t believe in me We wouldn’t be having this fight If he didn’t believe in me He’d walk out the door and say Cathy you’re right But he never could let that go Knowing the things about me he knows Things when he met me four years ago, he knew It never took much convincing to make him believe in you. Don’t you get to be happy Cathy At some point down the line Don't you get to relax Without some new turis to push him yet further from you. If he’s cheering on your side Cathy Why can’t you support his, Why do you have to feel he’s committed some felony Doing what he always swore he would do? He doesn’t want me to hurt, Doesn't want me to sink, But I know what he thinks. He thinks I’ll be fine. Just hang on and I’ll see. You can’t make him wait til you do to be happy with you. Would you listen to me? No one can give me courage. No one can thicken my skin. He will not fail so you can be comfortable Cathy, He will not lose because you can’t win. If he didn’t believe in you Then here’s where the travelogue ends. If he didn’t believe in me He couldn’t have stood before all of our friends And said this is the life I choose, This is the thing I can’t bear to lose. Trip us or trap us but we refuse to fall. That’s what I thought we agreed on, Jamie. If he hadn’t believed in me, He wouldn’t have loved me at all.
:-( this is my favorite "musical". JRB wrote such an interesting dichotomy between the lovers stories and how they are told in contrast. This is one my favorite Jamie songs. It's even better as Cathy song. Laura is so talented an interpreter.
Joseph Johnson yassss!!! It’s also interesting how their love story started in a whirlwind kind of romance, and at some point down the line they lost connection and subsequently everything fell apart. But, still, the love is there albeit dormant and lying beneath all their issues. Argh, this musical is just too damn amazing! And, also, yes, Laura did an amazing take on this! Love it!
ok tbh this is the only one i kinda like...(not saying the vocals of others were bad, in fact they were really good!!! but i mean as in the concept) i mean this whole show is an interesting concept but for certain songs it just doesn't feel worth it for someone to sing it through a different character's eyes, because sometimes it makes it a lot less powerful. not to be picky but that makes it rlly frustrating to watch... BUTTT this is one of the only ones I REALLY LIKE with the different pronouns because i've always wondered if any of jamie's speech got through to cathy, bc some of it i feel he really wanted her to understand. like how cathy is tense around jamie cus their careers are opposite in success. and cathy lets that get to her too much and her pride is hurt. but jamie really wants her to understand her pride doesnt matter, she can still succeed. i feel that was jamie's saving grace, that he never told cathy to give up. AANDDD laura's vers makes me feel really satisfied because it's like what if cathy understood this???? and knew she could salvage their relationship?? and they lived happily! i know they had too many differences to stay together... and jamie had very bad faults too. but i just think the one thing jamie was right about was this, that with or without jamie, cathy has to believe in herself if she wants to continue pursuing her passion. maybe they wouldnt have been so hurt. ofc i wouldnt change the real musical at all. it is a beautiful story.
I love this comment so much and seeing people come out of the woodwork who actually like Jamie on some level is so refreshing! ( I was going to say understand but that felt cruel) It's such a different emotional journey this way. I feel like originally (well in the film where you actually see her journey) Cathy goes numb and closes off at the end where as here she's weirdly peaceful. At least from my point of view. Other people think the relationship is extremely unhealthy so to each their own.
Multiple forks and knives. It’s horrible. I would never do this. Giving people chinaware and forks & shit to eat during dinner theater shouldn’t be a thing. Give them sandwiches.
There are people And they are publishing my book And there's a party that they're throwing And while you've made it very clear that you're not going I will be going And that's done But what's it really about? Is it really about a party, Cathy? Can we please for a minute stop blaming And say what you feel? Is it just that you're disappointed To be touring again for the summer? Did you think this would all be much easier Then it's turned out to be? Well, then talk to me, Cathy Talk to me If I didn't believe in you We'd never have gotten this far If I didn't believe in you And all of the ten thousand women you are If I didn't think you could do Anything you ever wanted to If I wasn't certain that you'd come through somehow The fact of the matter is, Cathy I wouldn't be standing here now If I didn't believe in you We wouldn't be having this fight If I didn't believe in you I'd walk out the door and say, "Cathy, you're right" But I never could let that go Knowing the things about you I know Things, when I met you four years ago, I knew It never took much convincing To make me believe in you Don't we get to be happy, Cathy? At some point down the line Don't we get to relax? Without some new tourist To push me yet further from you? If I'm cheering on your side, Cathy Why can't you support mine? Why do I have to feel I've committed some felony Doing what I always swore I would do? I don't want you to hurt I don't want you to sink But you know what I think? I think you'll be fine! Just hang on and you'll see- But don't make me wait till you do To be happy with you Will you listen to me? No one can give you courage No one can thicken your skin I will not fail so you can be comfortable, Cathy I will not lose because you can't win If I didn't believe in your Then here's where the travelogue ends If I didn't believe in you I couldn't have stood before all of our friends And said, "This is the life I choose- This is the thing I can't bear to lose Trip us or trap us, but we refuse to fall" That's what I thought we agreed on, Cathy If I hadn't believed in you I wouldn't have loved you at all Now why don't you put your dress on and we'll go, okay? Cathy? Can we just do that please? Please?!
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i have never been so angry at a stranger making noise w their fork in my whole life
Now I can’t unhear it
Yea the sounds make me want to flip all the tables. & the audible lip smacking & masticating. Gag.
This rendition totally reminds me of an emotionally abused victim trying to convince herself that it's all normal, I love this!! So much deeper than the original
Janey Grace I was thinking the same thing!
Either that or a really insecure individual.
Janey Grace in a lot of ways the last 5 years is a mutually emotionally toxic relationship. They both get caught up in their careers and focus on the relationship mostly when it's gone wrong already and Jamie has given up.
I agree, I always saw this song as Jamie projecting and assuming that the problems in the relationship where due to Cathy's insecurities and a jealousy of his success rather than owning up to how his own flaws and emotional absence might be hurting the relationship. Seeing those assumptions portrayed as a message that has been totally adopted and internalized by Cathy makes it all the more heartbreaking
Very interesting. I actually saw it as a beautiful and hope-inspiring rendition from a kind of Kathy who finally believed Jamie when he tells her that he brlieves in her. Does that make sense?
Kind of like a really insecure woman who has to tell herself 'he does believe in you and this means you can really do it'. A healty kind of monologe.
Okay, so I need a role-reversed version of this musical with Laura Osnes singing as Jamie and Jeremy Jordan singing as Cathy. Hell yes, please!
I have always wanted a lesbian last five years with two women (because Jamie and Cathy can both be feminine names) but JRB has said "no way" to that idea. =(
Siri Hammond I get that it would be awesome, but maybe he's said no because 1. Transposing sucks oof and 2. It would paint a lesbian relationship in a bad light, which is kinda not something we need right now. But, as a girl who absolutely loves Jamie's songs, I hope it'll happen eventually
it should he Laura Osnes and Adam Kantor
k rather than paint them in a bad light, I think it’d just show a realistic portrayal of a relationship. Sometimes partners fight and sometimes relationships just don’t work out. I think it’d be a cool idea, but I agree it could be taken badly.
@@robylopezvi yeah theres def abuse and bad stuff possible in queer relationships too just like straight ones so i feel like maybe its a silly take to say no to a queer version of the show just bc it would paint them in a bad light. a lot of ppl seem to think wlw relationships r all good and happy and easier than straight ones so honestly i think itd be a good message to show that no, they can be just as messy and just as hard bc at the end of the day its still a relationship and sometimes people just dont work out together.
"He will not lose because you can't win" is a little more heartbreaking and hopeless and a little less angry when it's from Cathy's perspective
One of the better versions I saw was by Jonathan Bailey who does this thing where he turns to leave & comes back like, I feel bad but I need to pile it on so you don’t get I’m trying to gaslight you now. I wanna perform this so bad, but have a few beats. Like in the movie where you can see the horror on his face because he said she was a loser who can’t win. & then he’s preparing to gaslight her into going. Sooooo powerful.
I love the emotion and rawness that Laura brings to this rendition. She absolutely nailed this interpretation of Cathy's character. Can we have a Laura and Jeremy reunion for a revival, please?
Laurel Welch yes pls!!!! they’d be a great team!!
Give this woman her tony already.
I was really skeptical going into this, but it turned out to be one of the most tragic and heartbreaking things I've ever seen and I'm just over here silently sobbing.
That was a really unique interpretation of the song- completely changes how the scene is viewed and the feelings the song evokes. It’s hard to pull off a big change like that successfully, however this was been done with a subtle elegance that brings a new beauty to the song. Congrats. That’s what a true musician and performer does. Bravo.
I had a really hard time letting go of my perceptions of Jamie throughout the song, but by the end its almost cathartic as she takes both a generous AND gracious stance in her self-reflection. I wonder if the whole show was role reversed, would it not just be a depiction of an emotionally healthy relationship?
@@StateOfTheInitiative that is a brilliant point. ive often thought how great it would be to see this show done with the roles reversed. i hope someone is brave enough to do it one day. it could be truly groundbreaking.
Only Laura Osnes could’ve pulled off this incredibly different version of this song. AMAZING.
I never realized how abusive this had been until the POV was switched
If it's switched it becomes like that, in the original material she doesn't feel like this but it's really interesting to see what he was kina expecting of her
@@Some_Call_Me_Pietro no, it’s because this is what Cathy’s hearing from Jamie in her POV which makes it much more painful and makes Cathy more insecure than she already is not what she was initially thinking. It’s harder to think of what Cathy’s thinking when Jamie was telling her this, but with this POV i feel like we can see how it sort of turned out like gaslighting
While Laura has sung it really beautifully and added a new sense to this already beautiful song, it wouldn't work in the show. Cathy was stuck in her head and all. BUT that's the point of cabaret singers! And i'm really happy to get this version it really gets a whole new meaning
I am so used to her being the perfect princess in these but damn when she wants to sing something else it's amazing to watch just her presence is so captivating and she sings with such conviction
I don't often enjoy the role reversal renditions, but this one is AMAZING. Jeremy and Laura can do literally anything.
I can't fathom how endlessly talented she is. It's such a gift.
My HEART. I need Laura and Jeremy to do this show together right damn now.
This song has a new meaning! :')
Oh wow, the role reversal changed from being a desperate plea to a beautifully tragic song about self-doubt and blame
The change in perspective dug a new depth
I didn't know I needed this until I heard it
This version is WILD wow and Laura did a beautiful job with it but WOW
This is such a beautiful recreation of what is in my opinion the most important song in The Last 5 Years. Gives such a new perspective and if it had been this way in the show, they would've probably stayed together. Laura did an EXCELLENT job. Just....chills. Like I'm actually sobbing
she is such a talent, and continues to amaze me always
Wow. No words, just tears in my eyes. It hits different when these words actually come from Cathy herself, rather than hearing them from Jamie. It hurts so much more.
I didn't think this song could be any more sad, but here we are. Also, if she had this perspective in the show they probably would have ended up staying together.
ikr? that's why this is one of the more powerful lyric changes. i feel like they would have a better chance of staying together if cathy learned this about herself. of course jamie had faults that he didn't learn either in the og text, but maybe if jamie sung "see i'm smiling" they would've both stayed together. in the real show neither of them really change their ways, which is heartbreaking.
you're so right!
I interpret this to mean that she would stay in that unhealthy relationship
this brings such a new perspective to the show omggg
Wow. What a striking rendition of this song. The change in perspective that brings empowerment rather than condemnation. Crazy. Laura also sings this with emotion and conviction.
I'm like 15 seconds in and I'm crying already omg I love her 😭😭😭😭
The the last five years movie would have been so much better if they had cast Laura as Cathy. This rendition brought me to tears!
And here I was thinking that I couldn't love Laura Osnes more ♡
Laura Osnes is honestly not even real. Perfection 💕
This is one of my favorite songs from a musical. And this rendition has breathed new life into it and brought me to the verge of tears. Well done!
Omg this took the already emotional song to a whole deeper level. And Laura brings so much to it. Gonna be reflecting on this version for awhile. 😭
I love this take on the song!!! My favorite musical of all time!
Laura Osnes is amazing.
This ENTIRE THING CHANGES THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE SONG AND I DONT KNOW HOW TO FEEEEEEEEEL
I very rarely get chills listening to music, but damn
Yes Laura! You never let me down! Keep up the amazing work!!!!!💕
WHOS THE ONE DISLIKE I SWEAR THIS IS ART OMG
This was not what I was expecting at all but I loved it. I should have remembered that she was at Pronoun Showdown
Laura is incredible. This version is different and a little jarring at first but she pulls it off with grace and talent.
I LOVE THIS WOW
this version I took it personally.
i... am... CRYING.
Woah this is such an interesting interpretation of this song! Really cool!
But why, Laura, why? Im cryiiing
Legend has it that the man with the fork and plate was assassinated as he stepped out of the room at the end of the show.
Pretty sure there are multiple son of a bitches with plates & knives & forks & all of them should be kneecapped with forks.
BEAUTIFUL MARVELOUS SPLENDID GORGEOUS QUEEN💚💙💜
I always thought this song was such an example of rapacious conditional semi-abusive love. Switching the perspective really makes that apparent.
Especially combined with his next song. She was clearly just someone who worshiped him enough & wasn’t a Jewish girl. I don’t think he ever truly loved her like she loved him. She loved him because he dazzled her & was exciting & fascinating & gave her everything she wanted & she loved HIM for it. She was just the exciting non Jewish girl & it could have been anyone. He just needs to be worshiped & adored & put on a pedestal. Any girl will do, until she won’t. I mean in the movie it’s clear it’s multiple girls who all hear the same thing “And since I have to be in love with someone
Since I need to be in love with someone
Maybe I could be in love with someone
Like you”. It’s really sad the power dynamic. Usually I’m on the guys sides in stories, but he’s absolutely toxic and the #literalworst.
Brilliant.
Is this anyone elses first time seeing her with her hair down and long? I love her look in this.
Okay but had they kept the pronouns the same this would've been gay AF and I would be living
Hayley Shields I think the theme of the concert thing was singing songs from different characters perspectives
Laila G good to know, thank you!
Laila G Mm, I dig that. Can't help feeling a little disappointed though, but at least we got Caissie Levy, right?
AlwaysGonnaSing ofc, what a blessing
The whole point was to change the pronouns, thus 'pronoun showdown'.
now we just need jeremy to sing a pronoun change of see i’m smiling !
YES YES YES
It’s really screwed up to listen to the original version, then, this, and think ‘ crap, was she actually what was going through Cathy’s head? ‘. It makes me so sad, for some reason.
Incredible
Okay but I want a gender flipped TL5Y where Cathy is begging Jamie to support her career and telling him she will not fail so he can be comfortable in his
i've never considered the miscast version for this but its def an interesting take and now i have a lot of feelings basically.
Whoever is eating up front is a MONSTER!
She’s so perfect and I don’t understand
It must be hard to sing , she has a lovely voice And I’m surprised 😯
as an aside I would really love to see her as cathy now
HOLY F-
There are people
And they are publishing his book
And there's a party that they are throwing
And while I've made it very clear that I’m not going
He will be going
And that's done
But what's it really about?
Is this really about a party Cathy?
Can I please for a minute stop blaming and say how I feel?
Is it just that I’m disappointed to be touring again for the summer?
Did I think this would all be much easier than it’s turned out to be?
Well then talk to him Cathy,
Talk to him.
If he didn’t believe in you
He’d never have gotten this far.
If he didn’t believe in you
And all of the ten thousand women you are
If he didn’t think you could do anything that you ever wanted to
If he wasn’t certain that you’d come through somehow
The fact of the matter is Cathy he wouldn’t be standing here now.
If he didn’t believe in me
We wouldn’t be having this fight
If he didn’t believe in me
He’d walk out the door and say Cathy you’re right
But he never could let that go
Knowing the things about me he knows
Things when he met me four years ago, he knew
It never took much convincing to make him believe in you.
Don’t you get to be happy Cathy
At some point down the line
Don't you get to relax
Without some new turis to push him yet further from you.
If he’s cheering on your side Cathy
Why can’t you support his,
Why do you have to feel he’s committed some felony
Doing what he always swore he would do?
He doesn’t want me to hurt,
Doesn't want me to sink,
But I know what he thinks.
He thinks I’ll be fine.
Just hang on and I’ll see.
You can’t make him wait til you do to be happy with you.
Would you listen to me?
No one can give me courage.
No one can thicken my skin.
He will not fail so you can be comfortable Cathy,
He will not lose because you can’t win.
If he didn’t believe in you
Then here’s where the travelogue ends.
If he didn’t believe in me
He couldn’t have stood before all of our friends
And said this is the life I choose,
This is the thing I can’t bear to lose.
Trip us or trap us but we refuse to fall.
That’s what I thought we agreed on, Jamie.
If he hadn’t believed in me,
He wouldn’t have loved me at all.
I was so confused for a bit but i eventually got it 😂
someone please tell me what key this is in 😩
in case anyone wants to know it’s in C
Thank you!!!
If he did believe in you, Cathy, he wouldn’t have cheated.
:-( this is my favorite "musical". JRB wrote such an interesting dichotomy between the lovers stories and how they are told in contrast.
This is one my favorite Jamie songs. It's even better as Cathy song. Laura is so talented an interpreter.
Joseph Johnson yassss!!! It’s also interesting how their love story started in a whirlwind kind of romance, and at some point down the line they lost connection and subsequently everything fell apart. But, still, the love is there albeit dormant and lying beneath all their issues. Argh, this musical is just too damn amazing! And, also, yes, Laura did an amazing take on this! Love it!
Who did not believe in you, Laura?
ok tbh this is the only one i kinda like...(not saying the vocals of others were bad, in fact they were really good!!! but i mean as in the concept) i mean this whole show is an interesting concept but for certain songs it just doesn't feel worth it for someone to sing it through a different character's eyes, because sometimes it makes it a lot less powerful. not to be picky but that makes it rlly frustrating to watch... BUTTT this is one of the only ones I REALLY LIKE with the different pronouns because i've always wondered if any of jamie's speech got through to cathy, bc some of it i feel he really wanted her to understand. like how cathy is tense around jamie cus their careers are opposite in success. and cathy lets that get to her too much and her pride is hurt. but jamie really wants her to understand her pride doesnt matter, she can still succeed. i feel that was jamie's saving grace, that he never told cathy to give up. AANDDD laura's vers makes me feel really satisfied because it's like what if cathy understood this???? and knew she could salvage their relationship?? and they lived happily! i know they had too many differences to stay together... and jamie had very bad faults too. but i just think the one thing jamie was right about was this, that with or without jamie, cathy has to believe in herself if she wants to continue pursuing her passion. maybe they wouldnt have been so hurt. ofc i wouldnt change the real musical at all. it is a beautiful story.
I love this comment so much and seeing people come out of the woodwork who actually like Jamie on some level is so refreshing! ( I was going to say understand but that felt cruel) It's such a different emotional journey this way. I feel like originally (well in the film where you actually see her journey) Cathy goes numb and closes off at the end where as here she's weirdly peaceful. At least from my point of view. Other people think the relationship is extremely unhealthy so to each their own.
ugh sounds of utensils clanking at the sweet points.
Pigs gotta eat.
OKAY BUT 0:54
The original song bugs me so much, Jamie is such a dick character. This works! 😍
What key is this in??
Emily Ruli C!
What key is this rendition in?
C
Does anyone have the sheet music?
Does anyone know what key she does this in?
Laura you had no right
Apparently they gave a pig a fork and knife and sat them by the camera.
Multiple forks and knives. It’s horrible. I would never do this. Giving people chinaware and forks & shit to eat during dinner theater shouldn’t be a thing. Give them sandwiches.
The plates and flatware noise - oy. Put your shit down and listen.
My misophonia has never been so triggered. My G-d. Why don’t they just smash plates?
Incredible talent - too far from New York
Amazing. Also this version makes me dislike the Jamie character even more.
Auch.
I hate this so much. It makes it so clear how manipulative and gaslighty this song is. I love it, but my God I’m annoyed lmao.
Why do they have to change the pronouns? Can't a girl sing a song about another girl? I really don't like when people do that.
I think that's the purpose of pronoun showdown.
In this context, it's for the sake of a different interpretation. Pronoun showdowns are, in general, taking love songs and shifting the perspective
There are people
And they are publishing my book
And there's a party
That they are throwing
And while you've made it very clear that you're not going
I will be going
And that's done
But what's it really about?
Is it really about a party, Cathy?
Can we please for a minute
Stop blaming and say what you feel?
Is it just that you're disappointed
To be touring again for the summer
Did you think this would all be much easier
Than it's turned out to be?
Well, then talk to me, Cathy
Talk to me
If I didn't believe in you
We'd never have gotten this far
If I didn't believe in you
And all of the ten thousand women you are
If I didn't think you could do
Anything you ever wanted to
If I wasn't certain that you'd come through somehow
The fact of the matter is, Cathy
I wouldn't be standing here now
If I didn't believe in you
We wouldn't be having this fight
If I didn't believe in you
I'd walk out the door and say, "Cathy, you're right."
But I never could let that go
Knowing the things about you I know -
Things, when I met you four years ago, I knew
It never took much convincing
To make me believe in you
Don't we get to be happy, Cathy?
At some point down the line
Don't we get to relax
Without some new tsuris
To push me yet further from you?
If I'm cheering on your side, Cathy
Why can't you support mine?
Why do I have to feel
I committed some felony
Doing what I always swore I would do?
I don't want you to hurt
I don't want you to sink
But you know what I think?
I think you'll be fine!
Just hang on and you'll see -
But don't make me wait 'til you do
To be happy with you -
Will you listen to me?
No one can give you courage
No one can thicken your skin
I will not fail so you can be comfortable, Cathy
I will not lose because you can't win
If I didn't believe in you
Then here's where the travelogue ends
If I didn't believe in you
I couldn't have stood before all of our friends
And said, "This is the life I choose -
This is the thing I can't bear to lose
Trip us or trap us, but we refuse to fall."
That's what I thought we agreed on, Cathy
If I hadn't believed in you
I wouldn't have loved you at all
Now why don't you put on your dress and we'll go, okay? Cathy? Can we do that, please? Please?
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“IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN YOU” TRACK INFO
Featuring
Norbert Leo Butz
Produced By
Stacey Mindich, Kurt Deutsch & Jason Robert Brown
Written By
Jason Robert Brown
Release Date
April 15, 2002
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I love her but the pronouns. Maybe I'm just used to listening to the original 100 times a day.
I really don’t like this. Her singing is great though.
I wish she hadn’t flipped the pronouns and had just sung it straight as a woman to another woman 🤷♀️
love her but her anti covid vax got her cancelled
There are people
And they are publishing my book
And there's a party that they're throwing
And while you've made it very clear that you're not going
I will be going
And that's done
But what's it really about?
Is it really about a party, Cathy?
Can we please for a minute stop blaming
And say what you feel?
Is it just that you're disappointed
To be touring again for the summer?
Did you think this would all be much easier
Then it's turned out to be?
Well, then talk to me, Cathy
Talk to me
If I didn't believe in you
We'd never have gotten this far
If I didn't believe in you
And all of the ten thousand women you are
If I didn't think you could do
Anything you ever wanted to
If I wasn't certain that you'd come through somehow
The fact of the matter is, Cathy
I wouldn't be standing here now
If I didn't believe in you
We wouldn't be having this fight
If I didn't believe in you
I'd walk out the door and say,
"Cathy, you're right"
But I never could let that go
Knowing the things about you I know
Things, when I met you four years ago, I knew
It never took much convincing
To make me believe in you
Don't we get to be happy, Cathy?
At some point down the line
Don't we get to relax?
Without some new tourist
To push me yet further from you?
If I'm cheering on your side, Cathy
Why can't you support mine?
Why do I have to feel
I've committed some felony
Doing what I always swore I would do?
I don't want you to hurt
I don't want you to sink
But you know what I think?
I think you'll be fine!
Just hang on and you'll see-
But don't make me wait till you do
To be happy with you
Will you listen to me?
No one can give you courage
No one can thicken your skin
I will not fail so you can be comfortable, Cathy
I will not lose because you can't win
If I didn't believe in your
Then here's where the travelogue ends
If I didn't believe in you
I couldn't have stood before all of our friends
And said, "This is the life I choose-
This is the thing I can't bear to lose
Trip us or trap us, but we refuse to fall"
That's what I thought we agreed on, Cathy
If I hadn't believed in you
I wouldn't have loved you at all
Now why don't you put your dress on and we'll go, okay?
Cathy?
Can we just do that please?
Please?!