Vocalist since 2017 here, I would recommend looking into learning projection. Its a way of using the diaphragm to force a higher volume of air through the vocals to make them sound more loud and full. Alex Terrible is doing the same basic sounds you learned in this video but he's a master at projecting his scream to get that insane low growl. There is also a DVD by Melissa Cross called The Zen of Screaming all about breathing techniques, projection, and creating the sounds themselves, she was the vocal coach for Randy Blythe from LoG. What you managed to do took me 3 years to learn and is ultimately insanely impressive and if you keep practicing you'll have a sick ass scream!
I started dabbling in harsh vocals like 15 years ago, only started getting serious about it maybe 5 years ago but yeah, this progress in a month? He's already where I am with false chords but I can't get any real volume to them lol
As somebody who screamed completely wrong for 4 years before I figured out false chord (I'm now at about 10 years and doing much better) you did fantastic. I'm really excited to see more of your learning process and your sense of humor definitely earned you a sub. You deserve to blow up (in the youtube way, not the dying way).
The technique you're discovering literally on your own reminds me of the "tunnel throat" technique which is typically heard in deathcore. You haven't perfected it but you're on the right track to sounding incredible if you can manage to hone that sound. Use the technique that came the most natural and comfortable to you and double down on it, make it your own. Just keep experimenting with sounds and techniques that make sense as a metal vocalist.
Holy fuck, this was so much fun to watch! Almost everyone on YT self-censors saying certain words, this dude doesn't give two shits. Great video, and so refreshing to see!
OMG....I've been trying for over 4 years and I still can't fry the way I want....My frys legit sound like I'm trying to front a female AC/DC cover band...I'm also a mezzo soprano, so I don't want to damage my folds. Voice Hacks with Mary Z is also my goto.
Since I started with fry because it come extremely natural to me and I've been doing them for 3 years you need to find where your voice starts to break keep that note move it up from vocal folds to the false chords add distortion then close the false chords and let them vibrate only when air moves them up and down so they make the classic click fry distortion and then maintain that you don't need to push much with fry it's ny default quite scream you can start by wishpers I hope that helps even a bit
I started with whisper screaming in the shower and after doing that a while with something resembling distortion (whispering Dickie Allen noises) it stopped sounding like much of a whisper. I think I started tightening some part of my throat and it made a sound without any pain. The next time I watched a tutorial, I realised what I was doing was just a weak fry scream and then it got better with practice. I'm not 100% sure I'm doing it right but it sounds a lot better than everything else I've tried.
TBH, watching Chris Liepe teaching the “vocal break” thing and Kardavox Academy explaining how a vocalist might be achieving a sound were by far the fastest way I finally got the screams down.
Just this intro alone gained you a subscriber lmao I've been doing "harsh" metal vocals since 2010, at the beginning I started doing false chord vocals, now I do a mixture of false chord and vocal fry, mainly vocal fry. But I can promise you doing false chords and vocal fry wrong can permanently fuck up your vocal chords and folds. If you ever want some pointers or free lessons let me know. I stopped taking students back in December so I could focus more on recording music, but I'd be more than happy to help.
I don't know how you ended up in my feed...aside from the amount of metal music I listen to. Your video was incredibly entertaining. I laughed a bunch. Glad to see someone with the focus to learn a new skill! I used to teach music. You are a teacher's dream student! hahaha!
Very good for 1 month honestly!! And that thing you were saying you do with your tounge to help is actually called tunnel throating. It's not something people pick up so quickly, so great job 😊
I've been doing black metal vocals for id say 15+ years, I also felt like the things new people lacked when learning how to scream is projection and breathing techniques. Getting the actual sound you want should also be second to not destroying your vocal cords. Doing it the wrong way for a few years and getting polyps in your throat is probably not a fun thing. As its been mentioned probably, the Zen of Screaming is definitely a good place to start. Most the youtube tutorials I see teach you shortcuts and have some pretty bad advice. Its a fun hobby though.
Love this vid. Only recommendation.... Have you considered possibly running your master audio track through a bus compressor to tighten up the range? When you're speaking, your voice is lower. But some clips are WICKED loud. If you throw a compressor/limiter on some of those super loud parts even...and turn them down to match your vocals...the rest will balance more evenly. Then you can bring the overall video volume and loudness up to a even level while still getting that overblown volume effect on certain clips. Food for thought. Keep em coming.
See it’s weird with me I’ve always struggled with false chord but fry screams have always been comfortable for me. I can even do lows with them too Great video dude!
Weird thing, but personally I found it way easier to get familiar with fry screams rather than false cords. To this day my false cord screams are pretty shitty and probably unhealthy, but my fry technique is fine, I can even go for low screams with it
Yeah bro depends a lot on the sound you start with I was trying to make false chords and I was doing frys the reason some people don't get them is because you first need to find where your voice breaks and then take it move the sound from your actual vocals to the false chords then add distortion and close them false chords that's why frys last longer overall it's more complicated
Your final piece was quite reminiscent of a song Spotify had recommended to me some months back, that I rather enjoyed. It's called Vibrator On My Taint. Turns out you have a very recognizable style.
If that was salt in that water, the last thing it'll do is relax your throat cause its gonna dry it out. Honestly your first approach of focusing on technique is the best way to go, along with staying hydrated
it took me 1.5 years to get the fries down, false chord stuff came later. now I a sort of combination of both, you can do lorna shore shit with it but it's also what you use to get the sam carter sing scream.
Thank you for understanding doing this shit is not easy. It takes YEARS of practice. Even for all the non screamers out there in vocals there are Highs mids lows gutterals pig squeels, zombie, tunnel throat, gravel scream, kettle scream, inhale screams, and it goes on and on and fucking on
Don’t try to add grit to your high screams, it’ll shred your cords, take air into the lungs, 🫁 slowly push the air out and then manipulate the note by slightly holding the vocal cords open
Here's a few tips I've learned over the years that might help you and others learn how to scream. Don't force it. That's how you end up shredding your vocal folds. Also, keep yourself hydrated. Stuff like soda, food that's too spicy, alcohol, dairy (especially milk) and having a dry throat should all be avoided. Also, avoid nicotine. Cigarettes and vaping build up fleam in your throat and can cause pain. It took me a few years to be able to scream without fatigue or hurting myself. Also, keep your jaw relaxed and most importantly, don't force it.
PPl who say you will destroy your vocal chords trying to scream... They must be the same kind of person that would wear the same socks for two weeks to prove a point.. see what I'm sayin.
I never imagined laughing so much while just trying to be informed and listening to another persons scream vocals😂 amazing video. But no fr if you wanna learn how to scream powerfully, long lasting and reach different pitches just pick up some hard alcohol and cigarettes or a vape at your local corner store and form a habit lol. I’m a bit of a natural singer and screamer (not born for it but good enough at it) but I also picked up a smoking habit when I was in HS still and then I graduated an drank more alcohol and I could do it a lot better afterwards (the correct way)before hand it was just wimpy and dry sounding. but now I can ring your ear drums if you really wanted me to. The best way to learn is to make hella different noises and practice breathing, Fck around with your throat, chest and stomach muscles till it feels painless and simple to do..BUT..DO IT IN THE CAR, W the windows all the way up. It creates a good sound environment. Always make sure when you listen to yourself that your checking to see if your belly button is going inward towards your spine. If that ain’t happening for you when you scream then you ain’t using enough voice or possibly air OR both, through your throat passage. Hope that helps lol. It’s not hard. Find your vocal pressure and keep an eye on breathing from the stomach. You’ll get the sound you want eventually with practice. If your throat goes horse, not good…light headed..not good. Your VOICE probably WILL have wear and tear for awhile but after some practice and rest balance the tingly, dryness at the vocal chords (I repeat, the VOCAL CHORDS not the throat/Adam’s apple area) deep in your throat goes away. Again “pain in the throat or Adam’s apple” is NOT good if you want to scream more in the future lol
Honestly streaming has pitch as we all know so take a note, and try to crack you're voice as you hit that note. Take the voice crack and use the same muscles you use to do sit ups or (shit). Just push, you'll feel it a bit in the back of you're throat and make sure you try using a small amount of air as you exhale . That's how I learned
If you do false chord for mid - you can practice bending it higher. Doing it right without force will lead you towards the place you need to be set at for most highs.
This is dope AF. I found this cause with in the past two hours (after watching Alex Terribles vocals on tiktok) I decided to learn to do low growls and it's coming along pretty damn well. I already know how to rap fast af and I can sing so this is basically the last step 😂
#1 thing that held me back was trying to make noises YTs said to and not screaming along to songs to start....Plus everyone saying that you shouldnt feel anything in your throat or anything resembling pain or tightness...theres no way to get around the roughness after and a bit of tightness during it. After 13 years and a lesson with Melissa Cross(Zen of Screaming) herself in person in 2015...ive still only lost my voice a bit once after 2+ hours of going hard, and have never made my throat bleed or actually hurt long term at all like many have! Fry is hard too, im still having trouble getting the metalcore style ones and more forced air based frys
"i could do that shit" "I couldn't do that shit" "something i have wanted since highschool, Goth Pussy" im dead within 30 seconds in
bruh homie spittin tho 😩
Trust me. You dont want that shi... on mofo dingu
30 seconds in what? The video or the Goth
@@killfly_ ayy
So best.
Most underrated music channel in RUclips...
Yes! Judy is one of a kind
Nah He deserve It He kinda idiota not gonna lie
And most useful!!
Check out Pat finnerty he’s great too.
Edit: love uncle Judy just as much, both funny music guys.
Fax
Just watched 12 minutes of a grown man growling in a car… can’t say I’m disappointed
Best place to record vocals honestly lol
@@Tysandifer i'd say it's the basement, because you can hear the differences in resonance in basements.
Are you expecting a child to be growling in a car?
I just love the fact that he somehow forgot how to fry scream like he wasn't imitating Rob Halford singing Painkiller lol
Vocalist since 2017 here, I would recommend looking into learning projection. Its a way of using the diaphragm to force a higher volume of air through the vocals to make them sound more loud and full. Alex Terrible is doing the same basic sounds you learned in this video but he's a master at projecting his scream to get that insane low growl. There is also a DVD by Melissa Cross called The Zen of Screaming all about breathing techniques, projection, and creating the sounds themselves, she was the vocal coach for Randy Blythe from LoG. What you managed to do took me 3 years to learn and is ultimately insanely impressive and if you keep practicing you'll have a sick ass scream!
Agreed, the amount of progress made in such a relatively short time is indeed impressive.
Me using the "corey taylor b4 vocal lessons" scream
@@_stitches_1334 In 2 weeks you'll be using the Try to scream but can't even talk bro
I started dabbling in harsh vocals like 15 years ago, only started getting serious about it maybe 5 years ago but yeah, this progress in a month? He's already where I am with false chords but I can't get any real volume to them lol
Hehe "ass scream"
Imagine walking by his car with a very distressed gentleman just screaming his guts out.
Been doing that for years, developed a habit of kinda enjoying the facial expressions 😂
So in other words: He's married?
As somebody who screamed completely wrong for 4 years before I figured out false chord (I'm now at about 10 years and doing much better) you did fantastic. I'm really excited to see more of your learning process and your sense of humor definitely earned you a sub. You deserve to blow up (in the youtube way, not the dying way).
I'm glad you've specified the way he should blow up
No no the second way.. Blue up
Bro I had a part in a song from my old band that had a 20 second long fry scream and I literally blacked out on stage one time lololololol
The technique you're discovering literally on your own reminds me of the "tunnel throat" technique which is typically heard in deathcore. You haven't perfected it but you're on the right track to sounding incredible if you can manage to hone that sound. Use the technique that came the most natural and comfortable to you and double down on it, make it your own.
Just keep experimenting with sounds and techniques that make sense as a metal vocalist.
I recently learned how to do this and it took months to get it right. You're video is step by step how I learned it.
Holy fuck, this was so much fun to watch!
Almost everyone on YT self-censors saying certain words, this dude doesn't give two shits. Great video, and so refreshing to see!
OMG....I've been trying for over 4 years and I still can't fry the way I want....My frys legit sound like I'm trying to front a female AC/DC cover band...I'm also a mezzo soprano, so I don't want to damage my folds.
Voice Hacks with Mary Z is also my goto.
Since I started with fry because it come extremely natural to me and I've been doing them for 3 years you need to find where your voice starts to break keep that note move it up from vocal folds to the false chords add distortion then close the false chords and let them vibrate only when air moves them up and down so they make the classic click fry distortion and then maintain that you don't need to push much with fry it's ny default quite scream you can start by wishpers I hope that helps even a bit
I started with whisper screaming in the shower and after doing that a while with something resembling distortion (whispering Dickie Allen noises) it stopped sounding like much of a whisper. I think I started tightening some part of my throat and it made a sound without any pain. The next time I watched a tutorial, I realised what I was doing was just a weak fry scream and then it got better with practice. I'm not 100% sure I'm doing it right but it sounds a lot better than everything else I've tried.
This video was very entertaining. Fucking epic Judy. Loved the chicken too.
Man this should have AT LEAST 1 million views
TBH, watching Chris Liepe teaching the “vocal break” thing and Kardavox Academy explaining how a vocalist might be achieving a sound were by far the fastest way I finally got the screams down.
Dude, haven`t laughed so much at a youtube video for a long time. You´re hilarious and the editing is brilliant. Good job
Just this intro alone gained you a subscriber lmao I've been doing "harsh" metal vocals since 2010, at the beginning I started doing false chord vocals, now I do a mixture of false chord and vocal fry, mainly vocal fry. But I can promise you doing false chords and vocal fry wrong can permanently fuck up your vocal chords and folds. If you ever want some pointers or free lessons let me know. I stopped taking students back in December so I could focus more on recording music, but I'd be more than happy to help.
this was awesome, I hope you continue to improve and keep us updated
9:03 POV: you've been kidnapped and this man has just pulled a bag off your head
I don't know how you ended up in my feed...aside from the amount of metal music I listen to. Your video was incredibly entertaining. I laughed a bunch. Glad to see someone with the focus to learn a new skill! I used to teach music. You are a teacher's dream student! hahaha!
Very good for 1 month honestly!! And that thing you were saying you do with your tounge to help is actually called tunnel throating. It's not something people pick up so quickly, so great job 😊
Lows are easy when you get them down. A few extra months of practice and you could be a passable low tier local metalcore band vocalist
the most real and relatable screaming video on youtube
What made getting my growls to be slightly louder really easy was sound choice, using "RRRRS" AND "AWWWS" helped me find cadence and volume
i love how everyone when they learn screams it just hits a point where they just go “oh i figured it out”
Your humor is sometimes questionable but I still laughed my ass off 🤣
Haha dude, this popped up out of nowhere and it made me laugh so hard. So many people try to be funny, but this got me good. Thanks!
We need an Andy Cizek feat
It's honestly extremely impressive that you learned the technique so fast. It's not easy. Those who know, know.
I've been doing black metal vocals for id say 15+ years, I also felt like the things new people lacked when learning how to scream is projection and breathing techniques. Getting the actual sound you want should also be second to not destroying your vocal cords. Doing it the wrong way for a few years and getting polyps in your throat is probably not a fun thing. As its been mentioned probably, the Zen of Screaming is definitely a good place to start. Most the youtube tutorials I see teach you shortcuts and have some pretty bad advice. Its a fun hobby though.
How do you know if you have developed polyps?
I cant believe it took an alcoholic mess with a chicken to teach me how to fry scream
1:29 this guy's goat screech unironically helped me achieve a higher pitched fry scream
Love this vid. Only recommendation.... Have you considered possibly running your master audio track through a bus compressor to tighten up the range? When you're speaking, your voice is lower. But some clips are WICKED loud. If you throw a compressor/limiter on some of those super loud parts even...and turn them down to match your vocals...the rest will balance more evenly. Then you can bring the overall video volume and loudness up to a even level while still getting that overblown volume effect on certain clips. Food for thought. Keep em coming.
My mom has those mugs too.
God damn it Uncle
Your on the path my brother
RIP trevor
insane progress my dude. I wish I could do that but I'm pretty sure I'd die.
4:24 this is the kind of bullshit that makes me realize how much I would love a guy like Judy as a best friend
See it’s weird with me I’ve always struggled with false chord but fry screams have always been comfortable for me. I can even do lows with them too
Great video dude!
Weird thing, but personally I found it way easier to get familiar with fry screams rather than false cords. To this day my false cord screams are pretty shitty and probably unhealthy, but my fry technique is fine, I can even go for low screams with it
Yeah bro depends a lot on the sound you start with I was trying to make false chords and I was doing frys the reason some people don't get them is because you first need to find where your voice breaks and then take it move the sound from your actual vocals to the false chords then add distortion and close them false chords that's why frys last longer overall it's more complicated
@@λαμπροςΣακκος op ellhnas! :P
Your final piece was quite reminiscent of a song Spotify had recommended to me some months back, that I rather enjoyed. It's called Vibrator On My Taint. Turns out you have a very recognizable style.
I love the fucking rooster.🤣🤣🤣
If that was salt in that water, the last thing it'll do is relax your throat cause its gonna dry it out. Honestly your first approach of focusing on technique is the best way to go, along with staying hydrated
I had the same problem with fry screams
false cords came naturally
Decidedly the coolest of all the Uncles
it took me 1.5 years to get the fries down, false chord stuff came later. now I a sort of combination of both, you can do lorna shore shit with it but it's also what you use to get the sam carter sing scream.
omg that goth bit 40 seconds in killed me. Subbed and liked instantly!
Thank you for understanding doing this shit is not easy. It takes YEARS of practice.
Even for all the non screamers out there in vocals there are Highs mids lows gutterals pig squeels, zombie, tunnel throat, gravel scream, kettle scream, inhale screams, and it goes on and on and fucking on
Don’t try to add grit to your high screams, it’ll shred your cords, take air into the lungs, 🫁 slowly push the air out and then manipulate the note by slightly holding the vocal cords open
THE RETURN OF MY UNCLE
cool vid judy 🙏 bless up 💯🫡
like 6 months ago for me. the goth girlfriend has not found another screamer yet so im doing pretty ok i think
Bro I came for the scream tutorial and subbed cause you’re fuckin hilarious 😂
"I just don't want to pull the trigger myself"
*I felt that.*
was genuinely surprised that nothing was censored in this vid. gives me old youtube vibes
Owner: no, my dog doesn't bite!
The dog: 10:29
The fact that I saw and remembered that one video at 1:14 vividly is just crazy to me
Calling Kardavox Academy.
This especific subject is actually Very interesting to me and i really wanted to learn, at least a bit of How to do a metal scream.
Here's a few tips I've learned over the years that might help you and others learn how to scream. Don't force it. That's how you end up shredding your vocal folds. Also, keep yourself hydrated. Stuff like soda, food that's too spicy, alcohol, dairy (especially milk) and having a dry throat should all be avoided. Also, avoid nicotine. Cigarettes and vaping build up fleam in your throat and can cause pain. It took me a few years to be able to scream without fatigue or hurting myself. Also, keep your jaw relaxed and most importantly, don't force it.
Screaming is not worth avoiding Dairy, that shit is my lifeblood dude. It's all I know.
@@j-dizzle2946 I love dairy, but I'm lactose intolerant.
@@fatboysgarage7984 The most vile thing God can do to somebody.
My guy did a metal cover of 3 big balls lol
my favorite part of this video is how he just occasionally starts making noises in his car
I was thinking about learning but I just cant do this to myself lmao 😂😂
Thanks for a genuine smile.
Cars are the best vocal booths if your seriously strapped on cash which most of us are.
PPl who say you will destroy your vocal chords trying to scream... They must be the same kind of person that would wear the same socks for two weeks to prove a point.. see what I'm sayin.
No
I fucking don't
Learning vocals could be a hell of a journey but you get there is a ton of fun ♥
im still trying to message you for tips on what lubricant to use on my guitar to learn riffs faster
The riff at the end was sick too!
"I love lorna shore" nice.
I GET LIGHTHEADED DURING FALSE CHORDS TOO
😂 this explains how my voice and body felt when I discovered Iowa... And life is peachy.
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your high screams sound like zombies from black ops
Holy shit this was hilariously awesome. Sick job on training your harshes💚
0:09 bro woke up and went no where
I’m finding this very relatable 😂
super crisp fries, also youre doing better than me, I do inhales LOL
I never imagined laughing so much while just trying to be informed and listening to another persons scream vocals😂 amazing video. But no fr if you wanna learn how to scream powerfully, long lasting and reach different pitches just pick up some hard alcohol and cigarettes or a vape at your local corner store and form a habit lol. I’m a bit of a natural singer and screamer (not born for it but good enough at it) but I also picked up a smoking habit when I was in HS still and then I graduated an drank more alcohol and I could do it a lot better afterwards (the correct way)before hand it was just wimpy and dry sounding. but now I can ring your ear drums if you really wanted me to. The best way to learn is to make hella different noises and practice breathing, Fck around with your throat, chest and stomach muscles till it feels painless and simple to do..BUT..DO IT IN THE CAR, W the windows all the way up. It creates a good sound environment. Always make sure when you listen to yourself that your checking to see if your belly button is going inward towards your spine. If that ain’t happening for you when you scream then you ain’t using enough voice or possibly air OR both, through your throat passage. Hope that helps lol. It’s not hard. Find your vocal pressure and keep an eye on breathing from the stomach. You’ll get the sound you want eventually with practice. If your throat goes horse, not good…light headed..not good. Your VOICE probably WILL have wear and tear for awhile but after some practice and rest balance the tingly, dryness at the vocal chords (I repeat, the VOCAL CHORDS not the throat/Adam’s apple area) deep in your throat goes away. Again
“pain in the throat or Adam’s apple”
is NOT good if you want to scream more in the future lol
Seeing that tv makes me feel sorry with the old one..
Honestly streaming has pitch as we all know so take a note, and try to crack you're voice as you hit that note. Take the voice crack and use the same muscles you use to do sit ups or (shit). Just push, you'll feel it a bit in the back of you're throat and make sure you try using a small amount of air as you exhale . That's how I learned
If you do false chord for mid - you can practice bending it higher. Doing it right without force will lead you towards the place you need to be set at for most highs.
"but there was a chicken"
i see this as an absolute win
9:18 crazy frog
I remember my first time watching Tim & Eric.
My stomach hurts from laughing bro ngl
Lmao on your reason to sing:) My respect😂
And yeah... I died mant times during this video:) You da best:)
This is dope AF. I found this cause with in the past two hours (after watching Alex Terribles vocals on tiktok) I decided to learn to do low growls and it's coming along pretty damn well. I already know how to rap fast af and I can sing so this is basically the last step 😂
This was cool and very interesting
This was a great video and my night has been improved.
Best video by far
Good job man
I just imagined a car of friends practicing false chords at random.
Instant sub.
hahah great video!!! Would have loved to hear the vocals louder in the mix but overall amazing work dude!
And I second the fry scream being a problem. It fucking sucks until it doesnt
can you make a video of practicing in your car in a crowded parking lot
10:39 seems similar to how i do pig squeals
#1 thing that held me back was trying to make noises YTs said to and not screaming along to songs to start....Plus everyone saying that you shouldnt feel anything in your throat or anything resembling pain or tightness...theres no way to get around the roughness after and a bit of tightness during it. After 13 years and a lesson with Melissa Cross(Zen of Screaming) herself in person in 2015...ive still only lost my voice a bit once after 2+ hours of going hard, and have never made my throat bleed or actually hurt long term at all like many have! Fry is hard too, im still having trouble getting the metalcore style ones and more forced air based frys
10:29 He turned into a cod zombie
Challenge accepted: I will learn this so I can metal scream at all those goth girls trying to steal my future metal bf 😂
6:30 got me. Lol