man love these conversations - so good to hear. but man THAT ONE SHOT where you are above on the roof and coralia is in the kitchen. Woah just woah. Keep killing it man!! its amazing
i think a part of it is the symbolism of him being in his head and rationality, and caring ab the documentation- caring about things that are instrumental to the relationship. Seeing her as a means to an end-a wife for his kids. And her intrinsic care for the relationship, her doing matenaince and things that facilitate the emotional wellbeing of the relationship, for the now.
Caralia is deeply human. When she said "I sometimes don't open up bc I sometimes don't feel like I deserve a hood relationship or apprehensive about it being real". My heart screamed internally bc that's exactly the mental battle I'm struggling through to even get into relationships, and her emotional logic for this is beautiful and valid. I hope yall last forever genuinely, and wish yall the best. Thank you for this amazing video 🕺🏾
the level of cinematography and storytelling...wow...i am beyond impressed. so happy to have found your channel. you are going to blow up!!! you are insanely talented.
I cried for the whole video because of how beautiful it is. I don't remember anything touching me this deep for a long time. Thank you for this beauty, love and honesty
This video was very touching, and I can relate to it a lot! I think my partner and I are very similar in the ways that you described your relationship. What I think is important in a (in this case) romantic relationship and what I think Karam described in some way, is that your partner does not have to be your sole source of happiness, comfort, support, etc. I find that Karam and Coralia are being very healthy in communicating boundaries and acknowledging that you sometimes need to figure out things by yourself, instead of immediately running to your partner to fix something for you. When I was stressed out with writing my master's thesis these past few months, my partner and I also took some distance at times when I would just not find myself an enjoyable - or as is mentioned in this video, attractive - person and not a good partner for him. We were fine supporting ourselves and would try to make space for dedicated quality time with each other, even though it was not often. Now that I have finished writing my thesis, we finally have more time to spend together and appreciate that time therefore even more deeply. I also know that sooner or later, something stressful might happen again and we will have to find ways again to make it work. I think these moments are just part of life, because you can't be aligned with each other 100% of the time. We both choose to put in the work and have found our relationship to be a positive addition to our life in this way and I hope Karam and Coralia (and anyone else relating to this) feel the same way! :)
woooow. thank you guys so much for representing such healthy communication... reeeally makes me reflect on my own journey. i have such a long way to go. feel so honored to peek into moments as intimate as these ✨👀 thank you truly for your vulnerability!! also you two are just pure joy 🧡 wish you the best from the depth of my heart x
I really appreciate posting this video and initiating this conversation in the comments, and the bravery to leave these comments here even though they seem harsh and judgmental but also they can point out some valuable inputs. I really learned a lot from this video, along with the comments and replies.
This is long, but not angry :P I just have some thoughts from this video about how the language we use for ourselves and others can be freeing or limiting, so wanted to share :) I would really encourage everyone, you Karam, Coralia, myself, anyone reading this, to really be careful how restrictively we label ourselves. Karam, you say you are a rational thinker, you seem to believe this story, to write this story, and I am sure it is true in many ways. But the implication is that you can't be both emotional and rational at the same time. Culturally there is also an implication that emotional thinking is less than rational, and also that it is feminine because *sexism* exists, surprise! Binaries are dangerous and most often not reflective of reality. Empathy and compassion are powerful and you clearly feel those things strongly too right, Karam? You seem to care so deeply for so many people in your life, emotionally. So you are an emotional thinker too! Yay. I feel like our world would be so much more vibrant and kind if we all embraced every facet of ourselves instead of trying to fit ourselves to labels, even if we find comfort in their familiarity or simplicity. Also, to demonstrate further how faulty the ration-emotion binary is: Emotions aren't irrational, even if we don't yet understand them, be they our own or someone else's. They come from somewhere, they have a source, a reason. Cause and effect. Hence, they are logical, whether we can explain it or not with our current understanding of the brain. Science, baby! So cool. Per my sexism comment above, I will also point out that rationality and emotionality are concepts we are severely influenced to attribute to men and women respectively even though the reality is much more complex. This is a bias that we are indoctrinated with through the patriarchy, however unwillingly. It appears in this most prevalent way in this video and so too in how you describe your still so beautiful relationship Karam and Coralia. Also, Coralia talks about feeling dismissed emotionally (and pardon me for summarizing bluntly - I understand there is more than 13min to your relationship). Kindly, I would like to point out that dismissing emotions is not rational. It doesn't solve anything, so how could it be? You can say Coralia doesn't have to dim it down, and that's good, but saying that and helping her *feel* welcome are very different. It would be irrational for anyone to repeat a behavior (not dim it down) when they are hurt by the response a number of times. Also, sweet-ass conclusion to the video and I wish you both all the best as individuals and together ❤
This is such a good comment. Thank you for taking the time to write this and for using such beautiful language. You’re right. You made a lot of valid points here and I agree with what you’re saying. I am not just a logical thinker and I will be careful not to put myself and others into boxes. I will also keep what you said about sexism close to my thoughts moving forward. Thank you for raising this point and for communicating it in such a beautiful manner. You’re great :) 💛
What you’re saying is true to an extent, but it’s 100% true women tend to get more emotional on average. If you use hormones to transition to a women, you end up feeling a lot more emotional. Intense emotions can cloud judgment, because emotions ultimately are a heuristic that our brains use to come to a quick conclusion. If you see a deadly animal, you don’t need to think about running - you just do. They also help us communicate and connect with other people, because that’s how we evolved, but it’s naive to say that to some extent emotions and rationale aren’t a little bit out at odds with each other. When it comes to determining the truth of a matter that isn’t subjective, they tend to only get in the way. People with strong emotions (like those with BPD, hyper sensitivity, etc) make HORRIBLE decisions in the moment. Being able to understand your emotions helps you make better decisions, because you can account for your temporary bias; however, dismissing someone for having strong emotions is a terrible idea. They’re a part of life, and we need to learn how to process them, understand them, etc., but that doesn’t mean that strong emotions don’t cloud our judgment in the moment. We know not to impulse buy something when we’re extremely happy and feel compelled to, and we know how silly it would be to kill yourself when something horrific happens, even if you want to. Part of good decision making is understanding and compensating for our emotions, because if we blindly followed them, we would be in a pretty bad spot
This was lovely to watch. It's clearly a journey of love and self awareness while making sure you're in community of each other. Thank you to both of you for sharing Karam and Coralia. You're a joy to observe.
this helps me very much in the current situation of dating someone for me. thank you. this is the forst video ive ever seen from you. its amazing. thank you.
2:40 during this whole clip I had butterflies🫶 what a beautiful moment! I can’t imagine how you two felt in that moment😂🫶 This is the first video I watched of you and I have to say that I find it pretty cool you have so many well written comments under this video some with better communications than others but they’re trying♥️
I loved this, reminded me of a time I let someone down. but it reached a point where I was invested in my business and the stress you see in her shouldn't become a fight/issue. its hard to stress, and then have this person worry about more stuff that cannot be controlled. all she wants in those moments is reassurance from somewhere, not more ambiguity. My partner thought I was seeing someone else when id be absent in person... still hurts let her fly too you held her down without knowing you did... maybe she doesn't even see it yet.
This feels so immersive and is amazing! I can really relate, this feels a lot like my current relationship. Thank you so much for this wonderful video :)
This video sweats love, I'm actually in kind of the same relation with a girl with many insecurities about herself, very stressed, very anxious, thinking she doesn't déverse to be loved, and it's a daily work together to accept that she is perfect to me the way she is.. I had chills watching your vidéo, thanks for sharing those intimate moments, it helps a lot of people I'm sure. I wish you both the best for your relationship, and I am glad algorithm did bring me there. Sorry for my mistakes, english isn't m'y 1st language.. Lot of love ❤️
Hii, I've always been a pretty passive consumer when it comes to youtube but I had to come thank you for this video. I am truly in love with the vulnerability and braveness you are showing by giving us a glimpse into these personal processes. It takes so much bravery and self reflection to give out something so personal :D That level of openness is something that I've always admired and I'm actively trying to get there even tho it's scary as hell xp I also found your thoughts about being very rational and having really high expectations when it comes to relationships very relatable. So much food for thought!!! Thank you I wish you two all the best
I guess if this works for Coralia great for her but my heart was hurting for her during this video. I am sad for Coralia that she has a partner who when she is stressed, instead of her boyfriend saying, "I am here to support you" and "I empathize with your emotions" says "I am watching you to see if you're going to be a good mother to my children. I am seeing if you are good for ME." Are you good for her, are you good to her? I know Karam said he is a rational thinker. It was sad to see an empathetic woman in touch with her feelings with a man who thinks of her as a functionalist ingredient that enhances his life, but when it doesn't enhance his life, he no longer wants it. A lover isn't a self-improvement regimen or a business partner. If this was a movie I would have been even harsher in my judgment but am moderating my language to try not to be too hard on Karam, who seems like an honest person who is trying.
Just some input from the other side of this relationship here:) I see how you could see this conversation in this light an I appreciate you voicing your worries for my side of the relationship, but remember that you are only seeing 13 minutes of a long conversation and a 1,5 year relationship. What you dont see here is that for the past year I have not been the easiest partner to be with because of my insane working hours and the stress related to it. Karam has been nothing but good and supportive to me through the whole process of building my own company - while communicating where and when he feels like my stress reaches a point where he needs to communicate a boundary to also protect himself and his energy. Creating boundaries of when I need to deal with my own emotional Regulation rather than coming to him in order for him to regulate my emotions for me is a way of assuring that we can continue to support each other, and still remember that we are two individual people with our own limitations. We were good friends before we decided to date and since this relationship dynamic has evolved, it is also in his and my right to think about if the person we are dating will be a good mother or father to our child if we choose to to have one together - When choosing a partner I’m not choosing them blindly. Love, when dating and getting to know someone is not by default unconditional - love grows to become limitless and unconditional if I choose to let it become unconditional. But I will not give that unconditional love to just anyone, and that’s why we are getting to know each other to see if we want to give each other this level of commitment. I think it is important to be your own best friend, even while dating your friend. Being true to ourselves while being open to communicating about each others needs, dreams and limitations allows us to see if we fit into each others lives as friends, partners, and potential mothers of fathers to the children we will have collective responsibility over.
@@liagla I had the same impression before reading your comment, but you're right it's only 13 minutes of your lives and definitly you've communicated about this many times, in many different ways. You guys seem to know how to communicate well, but as a someone who is also emotional thinker it kinda seemed harsh and scary, I was scared for me but everyone is different and eveyone has their boundries and if you're communicating about it and if you're ready to compromise some parts that's totally okay, because you know you more than anyone else. Wish you happines and joy
Hmm I guess this is what happens when you share very personal things on the internet. Your opinion here is valid, and I do appreciate your input :) It sparked another conversation with Coralia and I to just check in with each other and see if there is truth to what you're saying. So thank you for that. Overall, like Coralia says here, you're only seeing a little tiny sliver of our relationship. I chose to create this video as such to give a little window into, primarily, our communication standards that we hold for one-another. I was making a point with this video, but it seems like you got stuck on the harsh communication. I challenge you to rewatch it and focus on the other things I say here and communicate to Coralia in this video. Yes I am looking for what's best for me when it comes to finding the right partner. isn't that why we date? That's also why Coralia is dating me too. My communicating of this point to her doesn't mean that I am dismissive of her emotions and perspectives. Coralia does also communicate her hesitation in the relationship due to my being a very rational thinker. Is this what's best for her? she's finding out. With all that being said, I think reading people's opinions of our relationship is something that we'll need to get used to. In the meantime, go easy on us and remember that you're only seeming a little tiny part of our lives :) This is a healthy relationship, we're there for each other, and we keep each other in check. Thank you for you comment
I feel the same way… he almost made her feel guilty for feeling stressed which is a normal human reaction because he didn’t find it “attractive” enough..
@@Peachespaytondismissive avoidants always see themselves and are selfish. they often stonewall and say: you deserve better and run. so we can observe..
Hi there, This is one of your first videos I have seen, and I am overjoyed to catch up on the other for the sheer comfort it brings. Thank you for creating and sharing your stories in this authentic and harmonious way. It has a powerful way of connecting with people so far away, living such different lives and experiences and yet bringing them closer in the warmest possible way. Thank you 🫶🏽
Amazing emotional maturity here in both the video and the comments. At first I felt similarly to some of the commenters but then after grappling a bit, I realized that what is being communicated directly is often what couples are secretly thinking and harboring but not sharing with each other for fear of bursting the bubble of the perfect relationship. That communicating what you really feel is a sign of a deep connection while under communicating is often a sign of insecurity and avoidance. I also agree that while we want our partners to prioritize our feelings, it makes sense that we each have to take care of ourselves and our needs.
^this. Are we all not looking to see if someone is a compatible match for us and our life? How someone deals with stress is a part of that. Life is hard, of course there are ups and downs and sometimes one partner needs to support the other more and this changes throughout the course of a relationship, but I understand Karam’s comment about taking this into consideration for a life partner
I am so appreciative of your openness and kindness to share these intimate conversations. I admire the way you document live and how you communicate and show love to the people around you:)
thank you for sharing your most intimate moments to us, this world becomes a better place when we men allow ourselves be vulnerable, yours is a reassuring voice and an invitation for each of us to explore all our sides and handle this thing called love with care amd consciousness
What a fucking good video that I have just encountered thanks to the algorithm! Cinematography is amazing. Thank you so much for this video. Subscribed!
Absolutely love your channel.. I just discovered it! I'm sure you'll hit millions of subscribers soon! You have a very cool signature style and truly unique content. 🤘🖖
It’s really unusual and unique... it kind of has that old RUclips vibe, doesn’t it? I loved the pure, undistilled honesty and genuineness of this video. It feels so real compared to the fake, polished content on modern YT.
I am a little perplexed. For the most part this video seems to focus on his needs, wants, and even 'requirements'. About what he could possibly extract (learnings, love, support etc.) from a person or a relationship. I hope it's not a reflection of their relationship.
of course it's not. This is my perspective though, yes. And the way we communicate here shows you so much more about this relationship. it's the standard to which we hold our communication to. Also remember to watch this video as a whole. what I say at the end is very very important and should be taken into consideration with the conversation I had with her.
I see my gf and mines relationship through this video and relate to you two, it’s cool to see how we see the world differently and how that functions in a relationship. I also love that you two as a couple have developed a very honest transparent way of communicating I think it makes for a strong foundation. I interested to watch that video with your parents to maybe understand why I as well am such a rational thinker lol
as an arab living in the US rn, ur videos mean so much to me. u dont even understand. ur relationship with ur parents is very triggering for me. thank you for sharing ur perspective of this world. plz never stop
I really relate to Coralia’s need for connection and how she’s not getting that from the relationship right now- simply because you two approach life differently. This video really captures the masculine-centered world we live in. Every day, I’m more surprised by how self-centered men can be-even when they use non-binary pronouns. It feels like you’re using an emotionally intelligent partner to explore yourself and understand what you want, almost as if you’re evaluating Coralia to see if she fits your idea of motherhood and being a wife. And that gives me a heartache.
Really lovely the documetary style video that expresses alot of emotions, i really enjoied it. Was wondering what gear u use to shoot these videos ie. camera and lenses, as well as the audio capturing gear. 💘
Hi Karam, I usually never post comments on things. But I wanted to say thank you so much for your creations. So much heart, honesty, and beauty. The connections and authenticity you cultivate in your life are what I aspire to have in my life. Thank you 🌟 Also, what is that café?
I can see where a lot of these negative comments are coming from, as I also have now learned to become more of a "feely" person; but everyone is different in how they navigate relationships I have faith that with enough communication, and being kind to each other, their relationship will last none of us are perfect, we are all learning, and we are all growing it's just how life is
Coralia is the most italian looking girl I ever seen, I don't know if she has somehow italian origins but I feel like she could be my classmate in italy idk why but I feel this!
Karam, i ususally love your perspective but this video made my heart hurt a lot. If I was in the conversation with you in the cafe I would leave feeling really lonely and misunderstood by my partner. I emphasize with Coralia who doesnt have a partner, who supports her in her struggles, but uses her (very human and normal) emotions as a way to "measure" how attractive she is and what good a wife she will be?? Seriously Karam? It not only makes it sound like your love is very conditional and that your idealistic ideas of the perfect wife may be a result of your view of women only existing to help and please men within the patriarchal construct of marriage, but also puts *women* back in the position, where they need to be quiet, agreeable, sweet, unable to express emotions, anger, hurt.
I think you made a very big jump in logic with this comment. My communicating to Coralia that she needs to slow down and deal with her stress and anger doesn't mean that I am looking for a woman who will only exist to help and please me, a man. I communicate these things to her because I love her and because I want to help her be the best version that *she wants to become* - as I say exactly in the video. She communicated to me that this is what she wants, and so I am here to help her do so. Also please remember that what you're seeing here is a tiny 13 minute conversation. This doesn't represent the relationship as a whole. I would also challenge you to rewatch the video and focus on all the love that is shared here. We are both dating each other because we both want to find out if we're best for one-another. she is dating me because she wants to know if I'm best for her. Is that not reasonable and why we date?
@@Karamintheworldokay, but that isn't what you said. You literally presented these conversations as evaluations of her utility to you. The fact that so many commenters picked up on this miiiiiight just indicate that you didn't do a great job at communicating your viewpoint in this video (ironically). Additionally. You're right that this is a tiny sliver of the relationship that we're seeing... But THIS is what you choose to present? If this video is meant to be a highlight reel, yikes. If this video is meant to be authentic and realistic, yikes. If this video is meant to put your partner down, yikes.
Karam, go for Caralia, and stop all this hyper analysis level of the relationship on the question of whether she's for you or not. There are more than feelings, there is something called volition. She's amazing, and you're too for her.
I really like your composition, shooting techniques, and description of the story. I would like to ask about the shooting equipment used? (camera, lens, microphone) (by google translate)
God, as an "emotional thinker" myself, I would hate to hear my partner say "I'm with you because it makes logical sense." It's such a transactional mindset, like "well you have all the specifications, you check all my boxes on paper, so I'm going to be with you because it's what I should do." Like, oh, okay, so you like the IDEA of me, and what I can do for you, but your feelings towards me don't factor into your decision to be with me? Good to know that you picked me as your partner the same way that you picked your new refrigerator 🙄 The way you speak down about "emotional thinkers" also really rubs me the wrong way. First, whether you think so or not, all humans use emotions to make decisions. Our culture has trained us to view logic as BETTER than emotion, because we associate emotions with women. The way you speak so negatively about "emotional thinking" has very misogynistic undertones to me. Second, are you really a "rational, logical person," or is SHE just more tapped into her emotions and less ashamed of them? All in all, BIG YIKES. You are very immature and have a pretty fucked up approach to romantic love. I really hope that this video is not representative of your daily interactions together, because hearing my partner constantly harp on their doubts about me would seriously erode my self-esteem. But who knows, maybe that's your goal.
I don't see where he "talked down" to emotional thinkers. Instead I see you talking down to "rational thinkers". It seems like you are insecure about being perceived as irrational, or being perceived negatively because you think of yourself as an emotional thinker, maybe you are projecting this insult onto the video creator? Maybe I just missed it, I truly didn't see where the author "talked down" like you said. But in more general terms, I find it really immature on your part how you completely project your idea of a good relationship onto someone elses; these people have been platonic friends for a year and have mutually decided to start dating romantically, both claim to be happy with each other and to love how open they are (including the whole "doubts" part which you took particular exception to), yet for some odd reason you feel entitled to put their entire relationship into question. It's okay for someone else's relationships to be different from your ideal. How have you not learned this yet, but are calling others immature? Even adding "maybe that's your goal" - almost becoming self aware. It's not what YOU want, and that's ok. It's what they want, and all they are doing is sharing what they have and *are happy with*. They don't want what you want. That's ok too. Have a good day.
Deep what… he was basically the only one talking about his rational shit and was like : « I have doubts because you are stressed, honestly that’s really unattractive to me so please stop that if you don’t want me to leave ». From him, it clearly wasn’t an act of vulnerability at all but rather an assessment of her ability to be « the right partner » for him…
The best form of communication is intuitive understanding. I think you are a great couple but the "relationship contract" should be based on the fluid understanding of one another and empathy. If you have been friends for a year it should be a seamless process!
wait! some of this is in Berlin. I’ve only seen maybe one other video of yours a long time ago so I had no idea you’re based here. Love the spots you shot at in Berlin 💛
Depends on what timeframe you mean? Im almost 100percent sure they're living in Berlin, Germanys Capital. The Streets just look like it and the Coffeeshop workers named Nele which is also a somewhat common name in Germany. They are also obviously in France and the Netherlands but Neles accent while shes speaking english is definetily german
@ thanks so much that means a lot! Coralia has been a long time TikTok friend of mine, and it was very cool to your relationship through this beautiful lens. Excited to watch all your videos now, love your style!
Im not sure what it looks like on the inner workings of the relationship between you two but I'd really try to make it clear if I were you that her experiencing stress isn't a bad thing and its not something you'd leave over. Being afraid to feel stressed sounds like it sucks. I do believe you love her but Im not so sure you understand quite what that love means to you yet.
All the respect to both of you guys but, i just felt it was super weird that you are talking about you guys (your relationship) with 'I'pronunce ( it's like you always trying to find what suits u best and work for you but not for the relationship as whole ) and she is just trying to listen and replay and see if she does really work and match your needs . I don't mean to be judgy so I'm sorry if it sounds like that . And pardon my English as well cause I'm not a native speaker ✋ . Thank you for sharing this with us . Wish you guys the best ❣️
This is amazing, never seen a video capturing many special moments and conversations in a relationship such as beautifully as this one. You are very talented and dedicated, definitely looking forward to whats next.
my partner and I were in a situationship when we were 19/20 because we lived in different countries and met abroad. We stayed friends and continued meaningful friendship over the years. We had been there for eachother through different heardaches and breakups, supported eachothers big moments. One day after 10 years, we finally lived close enough to each other. We immediately started dating for real. It’s been magical and difficult and beautiful. Almost 4 years of relationship and 14 years of friendship ❤️🌸
youre a beacon of light in this world Karam 🫡 the fact you filmed and documented all of this is commendable I hope humanity never loses moments like these
being a rational and emotional thinkers is a good challenge, try to see how you learn from it, as a rational thinker how can you feel more and as an emotional thinker, how to be more rational, it's like ying and the yang. Both need each other for balance
there's some stuff i sgree with, and sm stuff i don't, and reading the comments, you are smwhat of a controversial figure karam, lol, but what i must say is that, with all the faults and quirks and idiosyncracies, what i see here is a real relationship, not content, a movie couple, but two real people who like each other. I wish you both the best in however you wish to explore your relationship.
"If it's a surprise to you, then I've failed at communicating." I immediately started crying. I really needed to hear that. Thank you!
You do not know what your videos do to me. I feel the most inspired and motivated afterwards. I really cannot thank you enough for this space. :)
this is everything I ever wanted. Thank you for being here and for sticking around
Some crazy ass shots in here!!! 🥴😱 Man's taking the cinematography of these videos to a new level
u no it bb. Learning from the best friend
man love these conversations - so good to hear. but man THAT ONE SHOT where you are above on the roof and coralia is in the kitchen. Woah just woah. Keep killing it man!! its amazing
i think a part of it is the symbolism of him being in his head and rationality, and caring ab the documentation- caring about things that are instrumental to the relationship. Seeing her as a means to an end-a wife for his kids. And her intrinsic care for the relationship, her doing matenaince and things that facilitate the emotional wellbeing of the relationship, for the now.
This video inspired me to document not just moments but conversations with my loved one's, so beautiful thank you
Caralia is deeply human. When she said "I sometimes don't open up bc I sometimes don't feel like I deserve a hood relationship or apprehensive about it being real". My heart screamed internally bc that's exactly the mental battle I'm struggling through to even get into relationships, and her emotional logic for this is beautiful and valid. I hope yall last forever genuinely, and wish yall the best. Thank you for this amazing video 🕺🏾
the level of cinematography and storytelling...wow...i am beyond impressed. so happy to have found your channel. you are going to blow up!!! you are insanely talented.
I'm so glad that you found the channel!!! Thank you for your compliment :) I've put so much work into this, so it's so so so appreciated.
I cried for the whole video because of how beautiful it is. I don't remember anything touching me this deep for a long time. Thank you for this beauty, love and honesty
"if i ever break up with you" is absolutely insane question
This video was very touching, and I can relate to it a lot! I think my partner and I are very similar in the ways that you described your relationship. What I think is important in a (in this case) romantic relationship and what I think Karam described in some way, is that your partner does not have to be your sole source of happiness, comfort, support, etc. I find that Karam and Coralia are being very healthy in communicating boundaries and acknowledging that you sometimes need to figure out things by yourself, instead of immediately running to your partner to fix something for you.
When I was stressed out with writing my master's thesis these past few months, my partner and I also took some distance at times when I would just not find myself an enjoyable - or as is mentioned in this video, attractive - person and not a good partner for him. We were fine supporting ourselves and would try to make space for dedicated quality time with each other, even though it was not often. Now that I have finished writing my thesis, we finally have more time to spend together and appreciate that time therefore even more deeply. I also know that sooner or later, something stressful might happen again and we will have to find ways again to make it work. I think these moments are just part of life, because you can't be aligned with each other 100% of the time. We both choose to put in the work and have found our relationship to be a positive addition to our life in this way and I hope Karam and Coralia (and anyone else relating to this) feel the same way! :)
woooow. thank you guys so much for representing such healthy communication... reeeally makes me reflect on my own journey. i have such a long way to go.
feel so honored to peek into moments as intimate as these ✨👀 thank you truly for your vulnerability!! also you two are just pure joy 🧡 wish you the best from the depth of my heart x
yes this is exactly what I wanted with the video :) to show people the communication that we have. No topic is off limits.
Thank you
I really appreciate posting this video and initiating this conversation in the comments, and the bravery to leave these comments here even though they seem harsh and judgmental but also they can point out some valuable inputs. I really learned a lot from this video, along with the comments and replies.
Hold on to her. she seems great
holding on with all limbs haha
This is long, but not angry :P I just have some thoughts from this video about how the language we use for ourselves and others can be freeing or limiting, so wanted to share :)
I would really encourage everyone, you Karam, Coralia, myself, anyone reading this, to really be careful how restrictively we label ourselves. Karam, you say you are a rational thinker, you seem to believe this story, to write this story, and I am sure it is true in many ways. But the implication is that you can't be both emotional and rational at the same time. Culturally there is also an implication that emotional thinking is less than rational, and also that it is feminine because *sexism* exists, surprise! Binaries are dangerous and most often not reflective of reality. Empathy and compassion are powerful and you clearly feel those things strongly too right, Karam? You seem to care so deeply for so many people in your life, emotionally. So you are an emotional thinker too! Yay. I feel like our world would be so much more vibrant and kind if we all embraced every facet of ourselves instead of trying to fit ourselves to labels, even if we find comfort in their familiarity or simplicity.
Also, to demonstrate further how faulty the ration-emotion binary is: Emotions aren't irrational, even if we don't yet understand them, be they our own or someone else's. They come from somewhere, they have a source, a reason. Cause and effect. Hence, they are logical, whether we can explain it or not with our current understanding of the brain. Science, baby! So cool.
Per my sexism comment above, I will also point out that rationality and emotionality are concepts we are severely influenced to attribute to men and women respectively even though the reality is much more complex. This is a bias that we are indoctrinated with through the patriarchy, however unwillingly. It appears in this most prevalent way in this video and so too in how you describe your still so beautiful relationship Karam and Coralia. Also, Coralia talks about feeling dismissed emotionally (and pardon me for summarizing bluntly - I understand there is more than 13min to your relationship). Kindly, I would like to point out that dismissing emotions is not rational. It doesn't solve anything, so how could it be? You can say Coralia doesn't have to dim it down, and that's good, but saying that and helping her *feel* welcome are very different. It would be irrational for anyone to repeat a behavior (not dim it down) when they are hurt by the response a number of times.
Also, sweet-ass conclusion to the video and I wish you both all the best as individuals and together ❤
This is such a good comment. Thank you for taking the time to write this and for using such beautiful language.
You’re right. You made a lot of valid points here and I agree with what you’re saying. I am not just a logical thinker and I will be careful not to put myself and others into boxes. I will also keep what you said about sexism close to my thoughts moving forward.
Thank you for raising this point and for communicating it in such a beautiful manner. You’re great :) 💛
What you’re saying is true to an extent, but it’s 100% true women tend to get more emotional on average. If you use hormones to transition to a women, you end up feeling a lot more emotional. Intense emotions can cloud judgment, because emotions ultimately are a heuristic that our brains use to come to a quick conclusion. If you see a deadly animal, you don’t need to think about running - you just do. They also help us communicate and connect with other people, because that’s how we evolved, but it’s naive to say that to some extent emotions and rationale aren’t a little bit out at odds with each other. When it comes to determining the truth of a matter that isn’t subjective, they tend to only get in the way. People with strong emotions (like those with BPD, hyper sensitivity, etc) make HORRIBLE decisions in the moment. Being able to understand your emotions helps you make better decisions, because you can account for your temporary bias; however, dismissing someone for having strong emotions is a terrible idea. They’re a part of life, and we need to learn how to process them, understand them, etc., but that doesn’t mean that strong emotions don’t cloud our judgment in the moment. We know not to impulse buy something when we’re extremely happy and feel compelled to, and we know how silly it would be to kill yourself when something horrific happens, even if you want to. Part of good decision making is understanding and compensating for our emotions, because if we blindly followed them, we would be in a pretty bad spot
This is so wholesome lowkey gives me hope
This was lovely to watch. It's clearly a journey of love and self awareness while making sure you're in community of each other. Thank you to both of you for sharing Karam and Coralia. You're a joy to observe.
this helps me very much in the current situation of dating someone for me. thank you. this is the forst video ive ever seen from you. its amazing. thank you.
2:40 during this whole clip I had butterflies🫶 what a beautiful moment! I can’t imagine how you two felt in that moment😂🫶
This is the first video I watched of you and I have to say that I find it pretty cool you have so many well written comments under this video some with better communications than others but they’re trying♥️
I loved this, reminded me of a time I let someone down. but it reached a point where I was invested in my business and the stress you see in her shouldn't become a fight/issue. its hard to stress, and then have this person worry about more stuff that cannot be controlled. all she wants in those moments is reassurance from somewhere, not more ambiguity. My partner thought I was seeing someone else when id be absent in person... still hurts
let her fly too you held her down without knowing you did... maybe she doesn't even see it yet.
This feels so immersive and is amazing! I can really relate, this feels a lot like my current relationship. Thank you so much for this wonderful video :)
thanks for relating and for watching
This video sweats love, I'm actually in kind of the same relation with a girl with many insecurities about herself, very stressed, very anxious, thinking she doesn't déverse to be loved, and it's a daily work together to accept that she is perfect to me the way she is.. I had chills watching your vidéo, thanks for sharing those intimate moments, it helps a lot of people I'm sure. I wish you both the best for your relationship, and I am glad algorithm did bring me there. Sorry for my mistakes, english isn't m'y 1st language..
Lot of love ❤️
I dont know why but seeing you guys kiss like at 13:12 warms my hurt SO much, i hope the best for the both of you
Hii, I've always been a pretty passive consumer when it comes to youtube but I had to come thank you for this video. I am truly in love with the vulnerability and braveness you are showing by giving us a glimpse into these personal processes. It takes so much bravery and self reflection to give out something so personal :D That level of openness is something that I've always admired and I'm actively trying to get there even tho it's scary as hell xp
I also found your thoughts about being very rational and having really high expectations when it comes to relationships very relatable. So much food for thought!!! Thank you
I wish you two all the best
it's really interesting that you managed to get these important moments on camera at such a cinematic quality
Guy, your relationship is amazing. I’m actually writing down questions for my next relationship. Thanks for recording this. love you both ❤
Questions has always been the gateway to our connection :)
I guess if this works for Coralia great for her but my heart was hurting for her during this video. I am sad for Coralia that she has a partner who when she is stressed, instead of her boyfriend saying, "I am here to support you" and "I empathize with your emotions" says "I am watching you to see if you're going to be a good mother to my children. I am seeing if you are good for ME." Are you good for her, are you good to her? I know Karam said he is a rational thinker. It was sad to see an empathetic woman in touch with her feelings with a man who thinks of her as a functionalist ingredient that enhances his life, but when it doesn't enhance his life, he no longer wants it. A lover isn't a self-improvement regimen or a business partner. If this was a movie I would have been even harsher in my judgment but am moderating my language to try not to be too hard on Karam, who seems like an honest person who is trying.
Just some input from the other side of this relationship here:) I see how you could see this conversation in this light an I appreciate you voicing your worries for my side of the relationship, but remember that you are only seeing 13 minutes of a long conversation and a 1,5 year relationship. What you dont see here is that for the past year I have not been the easiest partner to be with because of my insane working hours and the stress related to it. Karam has been nothing but good and supportive to me through the whole process of building my own company - while communicating where and when he feels like my stress reaches a point where he needs to communicate a boundary to also protect himself and his energy. Creating boundaries of when I need to deal with my own emotional Regulation rather than coming to him in order for him to regulate my emotions for me is a way of assuring that we can continue to support each other, and still remember that we are two individual people with our own limitations. We were good friends before we decided to date and since this relationship dynamic has evolved, it is also in his and my right to think about if the person we are dating will be a good mother or father to our child if we choose to to have one together - When choosing a partner I’m not choosing them blindly. Love, when dating and getting to know someone is not by default unconditional - love grows to become limitless and unconditional if I choose to let it become unconditional. But I will not give that unconditional love to just anyone, and that’s why we are getting to know each other to see if we want to give each other this level of commitment. I think it is important to be your own best friend, even while dating your friend. Being true to ourselves while being open to communicating about each others needs, dreams and limitations allows us to see if we fit into each others lives as friends, partners, and potential mothers of fathers to the children we will have collective responsibility over.
@@liagla I had the same impression before reading your comment, but you're right it's only 13 minutes of your lives and definitly you've communicated about this many times, in many different ways. You guys seem to know how to communicate well, but as a someone who is also emotional thinker it kinda seemed harsh and scary, I was scared for me but everyone is different and eveyone has their boundries and if you're communicating about it and if you're ready to compromise some parts that's totally okay, because you know you more than anyone else. Wish you happines and joy
Hmm I guess this is what happens when you share very personal things on the internet. Your opinion here is valid, and I do appreciate your input :) It sparked another conversation with Coralia and I to just check in with each other and see if there is truth to what you're saying. So thank you for that.
Overall, like Coralia says here, you're only seeing a little tiny sliver of our relationship. I chose to create this video as such to give a little window into, primarily, our communication standards that we hold for one-another. I was making a point with this video, but it seems like you got stuck on the harsh communication. I challenge you to rewatch it and focus on the other things I say here and communicate to Coralia in this video.
Yes I am looking for what's best for me when it comes to finding the right partner. isn't that why we date? That's also why Coralia is dating me too. My communicating of this point to her doesn't mean that I am dismissive of her emotions and perspectives. Coralia does also communicate her hesitation in the relationship due to my being a very rational thinker. Is this what's best for her? she's finding out.
With all that being said, I think reading people's opinions of our relationship is something that we'll need to get used to. In the meantime, go easy on us and remember that you're only seeming a little tiny part of our lives :) This is a healthy relationship, we're there for each other, and we keep each other in check.
Thank you for you comment
I feel the same way… he almost made her feel guilty for feeling stressed which is a normal human reaction because he didn’t find it “attractive” enough..
@@Peachespaytondismissive avoidants always see themselves and are selfish. they often stonewall and say: you deserve better and run. so we can observe..
I don’t know why and how RUclips suggested me this video, but it touched me deeply, so thank you!
BOTH OF YOU ARE SO PRETTY AAHHHH
Hi there,
This is one of your first videos I have seen, and I am overjoyed to catch up on the other for the sheer comfort it brings.
Thank you for creating and sharing your stories in this authentic and harmonious way. It has a powerful way of connecting with people so far away, living such different lives and experiences and yet bringing them closer in the warmest possible way.
Thank you 🫶🏽
Way to go, Karam! This feels full of love and hope, these shots and emotions are insane 😍
Thank you Habibi. A lot of love went into it :)
The vulnerability in your conversations ❤ This level of communication is top notch
Amazing emotional maturity here in both the video and the comments. At first I felt similarly to some of the commenters but then after grappling a bit, I realized that what is being communicated directly is often what couples are secretly thinking and harboring but not sharing with each other for fear of bursting the bubble of the perfect relationship. That communicating what you really feel is a sign of a deep connection while under communicating is often a sign of insecurity and avoidance. I also agree that while we want our partners to prioritize our feelings, it makes sense that we each have to take care of ourselves and our needs.
^this. Are we all not looking to see if someone is a compatible match for us and our life? How someone deals with stress is a part of that. Life is hard, of course there are ups and downs and sometimes one partner needs to support the other more and this changes throughout the course of a relationship, but I understand Karam’s comment about taking this into consideration for a life partner
Avoidant + anxious relationship if I ever saw one
Seriously.
I am so appreciative of your openness and kindness to share these intimate conversations. I admire the way you document live and how you communicate and show love to the people around you:)
I agree. It hurts me too because I’ve gone through a string of male partners who all seem to view me and other women the same way
So i really needed this but I didn't notice it. Thank you so much. Greetings from Argentina
This was beautiful, both emotionally and artistically
thank you for sharing your most intimate moments to us, this world becomes a better place when we men allow ourselves be vulnerable, yours is a reassuring voice and an invitation for each of us to explore all our sides and handle this thing called love with care amd consciousness
What a fucking good video that I have just encountered thanks to the algorithm! Cinematography is amazing. Thank you so much for this video. Subscribed!
Only 2mins in and this video is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing such a sincere window into your relationship. 💕
I can see your love for Coralia because of the way you use the camera to show her
beautiful interwoven conversations, thanks for sharing karam!
Thanks Ben 💛🥰
I am having such déjà vu watching this video… I am filled with this feeling I’ve seen this exact video a while ago…
Omg how can a human being be so beautiful like coralia
perfect original name for this etereal piece of universe
she's beautiful inside and out. grateful for her
Absolutely love your channel.. I just discovered it!
I'm sure you'll hit millions of subscribers soon!
You have a very cool signature style and truly unique content.
🤘🖖
what a lovely video, it's a pleasure to come across this randomly. very beautiful stuff.
It’s really unusual and unique... it kind of has that old RUclips vibe, doesn’t it?
I loved the pure, undistilled honesty and genuineness of this video. It feels so real compared to the fake, polished content on modern YT.
@@3D_TUTS agreed
@@3D_TUTS it's also just such a delicate topic as well, and it's something i can imagine them in the future watching back and smiling
I am a little perplexed. For the most part this video seems to focus on his needs, wants, and even 'requirements'. About what he could possibly extract (learnings, love, support etc.) from a person or a relationship. I hope it's not a reflection of their relationship.
of course it's not. This is my perspective though, yes. And the way we communicate here shows you so much more about this relationship. it's the standard to which we hold our communication to.
Also remember to watch this video as a whole. what I say at the end is very very important and should be taken into consideration with the conversation I had with her.
@@Karamintheworld Okay, that's genuinely good to hear.
I see my gf and mines relationship through this video and relate to you two, it’s cool to see how we see the world differently and how that functions in a relationship. I also love that you two as a couple have developed a very honest transparent way of communicating I think it makes for a strong foundation. I interested to watch that video with your parents to maybe understand why I as well am such a rational thinker lol
You are making amazing content, so glad to stumble on this video. ❤
I'm glad you stumbled on this video too :) hope you decided to stay ;)
as an arab living in the US rn, ur videos mean so much to me. u dont even understand. ur relationship with ur parents is very triggering for me. thank you for sharing ur perspective of this world. plz never stop
thank you for watching and relating! I love sharing my experiences and relationships.
She is so magnetic
I really relate to Coralia’s need for connection and how she’s not getting that from the relationship right now- simply because you two approach life differently.
This video really captures the masculine-centered world we live in. Every day, I’m more surprised by how self-centered men can be-even when they use non-binary pronouns. It feels like you’re using an emotionally intelligent partner to explore yourself and understand what you want, almost as if you’re evaluating Coralia to see if she fits your idea of motherhood and being a wife. And that gives me a heartache.
Holy fuck this video triggers me on so many levels and I think its important that I watch it. It feels like facing something.
Really lovely the documetary style video that expresses alot of emotions, i really enjoied it. Was wondering what gear u use to shoot these videos ie. camera and lenses, as well as the audio capturing gear. 💘
Woah she is stunning
your videos and the way you're talking about how you feel always heals something in me, thank u:)
Thank you for watching and for this comment :) I’m glad you found my RUclips!
Hi Karam, I usually never post comments on things. But I wanted to say thank you so much for your creations. So much heart, honesty, and beauty. The connections and authenticity you cultivate in your life are what I aspire to have in my life. Thank you 🌟 Also, what is that café?
this is such a wonderful comment, thank you friend :) This is exactly what I'm trying to show on here, so your comment hit me in the feels
the shot at 4:16 omfg...
I can see where a lot of these negative comments are coming from, as I also have now learned to become more of a "feely" person; but everyone is different in how they navigate relationships
I have faith that with enough communication, and being kind to each other, their relationship will last
none of us are perfect, we are all learning, and we are all growing
it's just how life is
Coralia is the most italian looking girl I ever seen, I don't know if she has somehow italian origins but I feel like she could be my classmate in italy idk why but I feel this!
Lol, I'm African, and my first reaction was, "This is the most European (Mediterranean) looking person I've ever seen."
Karam, i ususally love your perspective but this video made my heart hurt a lot. If I was in the conversation with you in the cafe I would leave feeling really lonely and misunderstood by my partner. I emphasize with Coralia who doesnt have a partner, who supports her in her struggles, but uses her (very human and normal) emotions as a way to "measure" how attractive she is and what good a wife she will be?? Seriously Karam? It not only makes it sound like your love is very conditional and that your idealistic ideas of the perfect wife may be a result of your view of women only existing to help and please men within the patriarchal construct of marriage, but also puts *women* back in the position, where they need to be quiet, agreeable, sweet, unable to express emotions, anger, hurt.
I think you made a very big jump in logic with this comment. My communicating to Coralia that she needs to slow down and deal with her stress and anger doesn't mean that I am looking for a woman who will only exist to help and please me, a man.
I communicate these things to her because I love her and because I want to help her be the best version that *she wants to become* - as I say exactly in the video. She communicated to me that this is what she wants, and so I am here to help her do so.
Also please remember that what you're seeing here is a tiny 13 minute conversation. This doesn't represent the relationship as a whole. I would also challenge you to rewatch the video and focus on all the love that is shared here. We are both dating each other because we both want to find out if we're best for one-another. she is dating me because she wants to know if I'm best for her. Is that not reasonable and why we date?
@@Karamintheworldokay, but that isn't what you said. You literally presented these conversations as evaluations of her utility to you. The fact that so many commenters picked up on this miiiiiight just indicate that you didn't do a great job at communicating your viewpoint in this video (ironically).
Additionally. You're right that this is a tiny sliver of the relationship that we're seeing... But THIS is what you choose to present? If this video is meant to be a highlight reel, yikes. If this video is meant to be authentic and realistic, yikes. If this video is meant to put your partner down, yikes.
@@lilymulligan8180
I think "evaluating her utility" is the worst possible framing you can give someone trying to vet their potential life partner.
Karam, go for Caralia, and stop all this hyper analysis level of the relationship on the question of whether she's for you or not. There are more than feelings, there is something called volition. She's amazing, and you're too for her.
THIS IS SO CUTE!! 😍
Such a beautiful video!!
NO NO NO I'm not crying 😭❤
Worth it !
I really like your composition, shooting techniques, and description of the story.
I would like to ask about the shooting equipment used? (camera, lens, microphone)
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God, as an "emotional thinker" myself, I would hate to hear my partner say "I'm with you because it makes logical sense." It's such a transactional mindset, like "well you have all the specifications, you check all my boxes on paper, so I'm going to be with you because it's what I should do." Like, oh, okay, so you like the IDEA of me, and what I can do for you, but your feelings towards me don't factor into your decision to be with me? Good to know that you picked me as your partner the same way that you picked your new refrigerator 🙄
The way you speak down about "emotional thinkers" also really rubs me the wrong way. First, whether you think so or not, all humans use emotions to make decisions. Our culture has trained us to view logic as BETTER than emotion, because we associate emotions with women. The way you speak so negatively about "emotional thinking" has very misogynistic undertones to me.
Second, are you really a "rational, logical person," or is SHE just more tapped into her emotions and less ashamed of them?
All in all, BIG YIKES. You are very immature and have a pretty fucked up approach to romantic love. I really hope that this video is not representative of your daily interactions together, because hearing my partner constantly harp on their doubts about me would seriously erode my self-esteem. But who knows, maybe that's your goal.
I don't see where he "talked down" to emotional thinkers. Instead I see you talking down to "rational thinkers". It seems like you are insecure about being perceived as irrational, or being perceived negatively because you think of yourself as an emotional thinker, maybe you are projecting this insult onto the video creator? Maybe I just missed it, I truly didn't see where the author "talked down" like you said.
But in more general terms, I find it really immature on your part how you completely project your idea of a good relationship onto someone elses; these people have been platonic friends for a year and have mutually decided to start dating romantically, both claim to be happy with each other and to love how open they are (including the whole "doubts" part which you took particular exception to), yet for some odd reason you feel entitled to put their entire relationship into question.
It's okay for someone else's relationships to be different from your ideal. How have you not learned this yet, but are calling others immature?
Even adding "maybe that's your goal" - almost becoming self aware. It's not what YOU want, and that's ok. It's what they want, and all they are doing is sharing what they have and *are happy with*. They don't want what you want. That's ok too.
Have a good day.
Deep conversations like this one , SCARE ME ...
Deep what… he was basically the only one talking about his rational shit and was like : « I have doubts because you are stressed, honestly that’s really unattractive to me so please stop that if you don’t want me to leave ». From him, it clearly wasn’t an act of vulnerability at all but rather an assessment of her ability to be « the right partner » for him…
Whatever you do
Dont ever break up
shes stunning tho
you guys make me want to visit berlin :3
It's pretty cool ;)
You're both fucking amazing bro❤
The best form of communication is intuitive understanding. I think you are a great couple but the "relationship contract" should be based on the fluid understanding of one another and empathy. If you have been friends for a year it should be a seamless process!
y the fk am i smiling
Haha love this
That is so cute she is so beautiful.
This is beautiful 💚 good luck 💚
wait! some of this is in Berlin. I’ve only seen maybe one other video of yours a long time ago so I had no idea you’re based here. Love the spots you shot at in Berlin 💛
Yeah! this is home for us :)
What country is this??? it looks wonderful there
Depends on what timeframe you mean? Im almost 100percent sure they're living in Berlin, Germanys Capital. The Streets just look like it and the Coffeeshop workers named Nele which is also a somewhat common name in Germany. They are also obviously in France and the Netherlands but Neles accent while shes speaking english is definetily german
Aww, I loved this!
Aww great to see you here Kyle :) I've seen your work around and have loved what you make
@ thanks so much that means a lot! Coralia has been a long time TikTok friend of mine, and it was very cool to your relationship through this beautiful lens. Excited to watch all your videos now, love your style!
Girl needs to wake up and find someone who actually loves her.
Im not sure what it looks like on the inner workings of the relationship between you two but I'd really try to make it clear if I were you that her experiencing stress isn't a bad thing and its not something you'd leave over.
Being afraid to feel stressed sounds like it sucks.
I do believe you love her but Im not so sure you understand quite what that love means to you yet.
You guys are a beautiful couple. I hope it works out between you two :)
Very needed video
how did you even get the shot at 4:30?
why did you film all this tho
I love documenting life. There’s so much value in it!
All the respect to both of you guys but, i just felt it was super weird that you are talking about you guys (your relationship) with 'I'pronunce ( it's like you always trying to find what suits u best and work for you but not for the relationship as whole ) and she is just trying to listen and replay and see if she does really work and match your needs . I don't mean to be judgy so I'm sorry if it sounds like that . And pardon my English as well cause I'm not a native speaker ✋ . Thank you for sharing this with us . Wish you guys the best ❣️
كرم, شكرا لان سويت هذا الفيديو
This is amazing, never seen a video capturing many special moments and conversations in a relationship such as beautifully as this one. You are very talented and dedicated, definitely looking forward to whats next.
my partner and I were in a situationship when we were 19/20 because we lived in different countries and met abroad. We stayed friends and continued meaningful friendship over the years. We had been there for eachother through different heardaches and breakups, supported eachothers big moments. One day after 10 years, we finally lived close enough to each other. We immediately started dating for real. It’s been magical and difficult and beautiful. Almost 4 years of relationship and 14 years of friendship ❤️🌸
What camera did you use to film this?
this is very profound
After the night I've had with the girl I was with, I can't handle this rn
youre a beacon of light in this world Karam 🫡
the fact you filmed and documented all of this is commendable
I hope humanity never loses moments like these
being a rational and emotional thinkers is a good challenge, try to see how you learn from it, as a rational thinker how can you feel more and as an emotional thinker, how to be more rational, it's like ying and the yang. Both need each other for balance
absolutely. And this is something that I can already see in both of us. We're just learning more and more as we go :)
amé este video
there's some stuff i sgree with, and sm stuff i don't, and reading the comments, you are smwhat of a controversial figure karam, lol, but what i must say is that, with all the faults and quirks and idiosyncracies, what i see here is a real relationship, not content, a movie couple, but two real people who like each other. I wish you both the best in however you wish to explore your relationship.
oh… how sweet 🍬 ❤
You guys rock :) rooting for you! There’s an awesome communication course called Authentic Relating. I recommend it ❤
Toby ❤
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