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Crime, complaining about it and sponsors who encourage games about killing! YAY! KILLING! (But still I’m here listening to stories about killing. 😅yay killing)
I lived in Russia in the early 2000s. Simon, I agree with you about not typically getting into a stranger's car, but in Russia what they call 'gypsy' cabs are common. Yes, this is probably a derogatory term. It refers to a person, usually a middle aged man, who owns a car and takes the occasional passenger to make extra cash. They are not official taxis, and they typically cost much less, meaning that they aren't as out of reach cost wise for the average person. In circumstances like Ms. Dorogova's, taking such a ride would not have been all that alarming or unusual. It's still not a great idea, obviously.
Two cultural notes: it was very common in Russia in the 90s/00s for anyone with a car to essentially operate as a cab whenever they felt like it, and it was equally common to just flag down any car that would stop. I haven't been to Russia since 2000, so I don't know how common it still is. Secondly, there was probably some cultural stuff hanging around from the Soviet era going on with the police, at least early on. It was a common belief that "Russia doesn't have serial killers because that it capitalist American corruption." Russian serial killers get away with it for much longer historically because the authorities refused to believe that serial killers existed in Russia.
that was normal everywhere until they was or banned or just people are told not to not use them, not a capitalist thing as they exist from way before that. you realise authorities are Russian too.
@@ak43darkhell it was licensed and not legal technically. but russia was in such a state that in 80s the cops were busy trying to get food extracted out of people and in the 90's busy trying to stay alive and not offed, this latter part is why the 'gang' violence mentioned wasn't investigated - also pretty much how the states stuff got privatized. few people had cars and those who had did stuff to pay for the car.
12:15 I lived in Russia in the early 2000s. In Russia what they call 'gypsy' cabs are common. Yes, this is probably a derogatory term. It refers to a person, usually a middle aged man, who owns a car and takes the occasional passenger to make extra cash. They are not official taxis, and they typically cost much less, meaning that they aren't as out of reach cost wise for the average person. In circumstances like Ms. Dorogova's, taking such a ride would not have been all that alarming or unusual. It's still not a great idea, obviously.
Yeah, I worked as a manager of a yellow cab and gypsy cabs were really bad here in California too. A woman got r a p e d in one and the next thing you know every cab company is getting Federal background checks and drug tested every month. Sadly gypsy cabs never went away, they just became Uber...
I worked in Russia for a few months and the one piece of advice that was drilled into me was if there is ANY PROBLEM WHATSOEVER do NOT go to the police, speak to colleagues who will do what they can to help the poor foreigner out. (That and be wary of drinking heavily and going outside because you think you’re warmer than you are and people do freeze to death)
I believe the police helped one of their own out. Fully knowing what he was doing and keeping him out of prison because they also agreed with “well she deserved it”
I'll add to the 'don't go outside', alone. You'll come home in your underwear. (not me, a colleague. He was told, ignored the advice and paid with his wallet, watch, passport and clothes)
Yeah, here in the USA I helped an Eastern European immigrant out with a few legal issues. He'd been an officer in the Soviet military before his country got free of Soviet rule and he was prone to drinking - a lot. When drunk he was quite chatty and the things he described and admitted to had me taking note - never trust authorities in Russia, they are corrupt and if they are anywhere near as intelligent as the guy I was helping, they are capable of thinking up things that the rest of us would never dream of.
Colleague with a bloody knife in their hand: "Please do not go to the police" Jokes aside, what do you do if your colleagues are the problem in Russia?
There's a saying about "dead " bodies found outside in the cold: "they're not dead until they're warm and dead." This is because a surprising amount of frozen people with no obvious pulse or breathing will, when warmed, develop a stronger pulse and more obvious breathing, and some will even wake up immediately upon warming.
I think that, if you're a journalist in Russia, your home should be a single story bunker with no pool, ramps instead of stairs and all the alarm systems possible (smoke, carbon mono and dioxide, geiger counters in each room). Let's be genre savvy here.
Omg this guy was enjoying the weather near a child soft playground and tripped and fell and hit head on bouncy rubber. Instantly dead. Terrible accident.
@@PataPannuWe were all so very confused when he tied himself up, beat himself half to death with half a dozen broken bones, wrapped his entire body in plastic after shooting himself in the head, and then threw himself into the nearby river after crushing his computer hard drive in a trash compacter.
Simon and the audience are always finding out these incredible facts about the writers together during these videos lol. Cause even a passing understanding of Russian is amazing
@@zarasbazaar I know Russian (as a second language) from childhood, but, occasionally getting corrected by my mother on a particularly weird bit of grammar, always wondered how you could learn it as a foreigner... the language is a total mess...
Ironically, I think the hypothermia from the Siberian winter saved Evgenia's life. I remember some war documentaries where battles fought in extreme cold actually kept soldiers from bleeding out from mortal wounds. So where Evgenia had been beaten around the head repeatedly, the cold and hypothermia saved her from a brain bleed and swelling that would have killed her at room temperature.
7:45 - Mid roll ads 9:30 - Chapter 1 - The werewolf of angarsk 19:00 - Chapter 2 - 1998 32:10 - Chapter 3 - Mikhail Popkov 44:15 - Chapter 4 - 1999 51:50 - Chapter 5 - The task force 56:45 - Chapter 6 - Arrest 1:02:20 - Chapter 7 - How many ? 1:09:40 - Chapter 8 - The conspiracy theory 1:20:25 - Wrap up 1:23:20 - Dismembered appendices PS: Lucky for you mates, i was timecoding a 6h livestream and prefered to go check out Cash Criminalist !
Большое спасибо за то, что замечаете, каково живётся в такой стране. Постоянно ходишь на цыпочках, чтобы не задело, перестраховываешься. Очень больно за людей.
I’m from the US, and I am sending you well wishes for safety, peace, and happiness. No where is perfect, but people shouldn’t be forced to live “walking on their tiptoes” as you said. Thank you for sharing.
Hopefully one day our societies can come together while also being better for the world like a chain of hippie communes that grow so much half the world lives the way it should and the other half still makes needed stuff and has education for people that want and have more specialised stuff instead of trying to cram a lot of people in a sector for the sake of a wage to live
Jen.... I'm 11 mins in and I have laughed out loud at least twice... to you I say: Bravo 👏 👏 👏 Angus: the opening vignette of the little girl was an excellent device to remind us of the scale of suffering when a single life is lost. The humour injected by Jen does not detract from that pathos, it helps (me at least) to decompress from the horror. I love that the humour is always directed towards the host and is never disrespectful to the victim (at least in my view). But I understand and respect the debate about the ethics of the true crime genre generally.
I have a suggestion for an episode. The state of Minnesota has executed only one woman for murder in its history and that woman was Ann Bilansky. Her grave remains unmarked though the cemetery in which she was buried is known. Love your videos and your commentaries on the cases! I’m working my way through them.
@@PandaMonium92827 I first found out about her from a book about murders in Minnesota. Her story is from the 1800s. The book is called Murder in Minnesota by Walter Trennery. It is available on Amazon. I found in a public library.
I'm not so sure Spring Heeled Jack was fictional. Just a guy who jumped out a people in a costume and going, "boogie boogie boogie" then running away and jumping over a wall.
Yay a long one! And I don't know it right away! Edit: I still love Simon's faith in humanity. He's talking about IA like Russia has good internal regulations that are actually utilized. Russian corruption isn't exactly a secret.
Absolutely, also his disbelief at how much police hate sex workers (and in the Gacy video, gay people). Like Simon my dude, I assure you that on the whole they think of these marginalized groups as lower than insects, so what Angus proposes here is truly not that much of a stretch.
It's simultaneously frustrating that he can't fathom the everyday person being so shite to (an)other human(s) and gratitude he hasn't been exposed enough to know its true.
@@osric729 Absolutely true. I just feel like the US does at least a half assed attempt to pretend they aren't corrupt (of course it depends on where you are in the US), whereas Russia doesn't even try to hide it.
To offer my perspective, as a woman born in Russia; they probably think it's potentially their future husband. Any time, any place, any man. The bane of my grandmother's existence was me refusing to talk to any random man that showed even the slightest interest in me.
True, most of my cousins (those that went to the military, not those that went to uni) married their wives when they were 18-20 to girls that were near their base and while it may have worked for my mother's generation (where they were send to work and live in one particular location without any alternatives), I sincerely doubt that a young marriage to a person who was just there and just desperate enough could be healthy nowadays. And because most of the people around you are married young, those that didn't, have additional pressure to just do it. So it's not uncommon for a woman to ask a man if he is married the minute they meet, heck there is a pick up line that men use like "does your mother need a son-in-law?" And because I'm only half Ukrainian (with that half of the relatives living either in Ukraine or Russia) this whole sprint to the wedding hall is frankly very weird and frightening for me.
Do you think that's partially because of the Orthodox religion, or just purely out of a sense of tradition? I know in the States, the tradition of an early marriage largely died out by the 70's-'80s, but there's definitely religious groups (Evangelicals, Mormons) that still get pushed to marry quite young.
@@nickdubil90 since she’s talking about her grandmothers generation it was probably due to lack of males in Russia at the time. Due to a combination of revolutions, WWII, and Stalin’s reign of terror there was a significant shortage of men in Russia at the time.
@@nickdubil90 I doubt it's Orthodoxy too much (Russians as a rule are... not that devout, to say the least) and more tradition, albeit one that may be rooted in the Soviet era more than anything else.
@@-MarcusAurelius There is actually still a perception that men are scarce and that one must get one at any cost. I am extremely lucky in that my parents are both university educated and "got ideas" while getting said education.
Yeah just make a new channel and stop including them in the other videos. It's fine when he talks about things related to the subject but when he starts talking about his kids using fuckin iPads or catching a train I just DONT CARE AT ALL
@@BlueBirdsProductions Cry about it. It's his show, he can do what he likes, you can either whine about it, skip those sections, or stop watching. Nothing you comment here will ever get Simon to change anything about the show.
Recliner is reclined, Gandalf pipe packed, plenty of beverage. I'm ready for the long haul Simon. Lol Thanks Simon and Co. for posting more of your never-ending entertainment! 🍻
This is the only true crime podcast that I watch or listen to. I stumbled upon it right after it started. I have premium so I use it as a podcast while I'm driving to, from, and for work. When episodes come out on the weekends I anticipate Monday mornings. 🤣 This and pretty much every show Simon has.
I think some corruption, some negligence, some incompetence. But I also think that there is an element of confession killer here as well. Popkov gets a better prison in exchange for cleaning up some loose ends in other unsolved cases.
I was thinking something like that. He definitely killed women, but every time he confesses he gets to go back to his old buddies. So I guess he could use his huge memory to remember some cases he worked on and confess them, so he could come back "home" periodically. Because as Angus stated, the city has a high level of criminality, so there's bound to be some fatal cases of domestic violence, sole unresolved due to police neglect. And lo and behold, Popkov knows some details on the cases that are only known to the police. Where he worked..
@@aaronaaronsen3360 and we don't know when he got diagnosed with "photographic memory". If it was after he was arrested it's just a fanciful alternative to the police feeding him information to confess with.
My dad did lectures and public speaking for years. My sister finally told me of her years long, festering resentment that in watching old taped of him is that he constantly told stories about me and not so many about her. I was the oldest by a lot and around as he did all the misadventures that he later wrote about.
I love both my kids equally but depending on the day and circumstance, I do sometimes LIKE one of them more than the other. Kids are a**holes some days. Still love the crap out of them though.
You may want to take into account that he first started killing soon after the fall of the Soviet Union. The Soviets did not like to admit that their systems would produce the likes of serial killers. That outlook lends to covering things up, especially in those earliest years.
@@someturkishguy8638 it makes perfect sense. He was raised within the dystopic soviet government system - like most of his troubled victims, who were also products of the dystopic system.
The stuff Simon is saying around the 16:30 mark about one bad source spreading around the internet is sooo true. I’m a journalist and I’ve gotten original scoops/stories before where I’ve made an error or been given bad intel that I later corrected, only to have competitors in my field repeat those same mistakes without citing a source. Even when the original source runs a redaction or update, the rest of the articles don’t in my experience
I think his original number of victims was more accurate and he's using his photographic memory of missing women's cases when he was a police officer to avoid a prison that would be a lot less comfortable (which to be fair shouldn't exist even if you've done horrible crimes). That number is inflated with false confessions.
Check out Archie's True Crime. I very rarely mention other channels but he covered this one a month before Angus and Simon and still managed to deliver information about the case that this channel failed to cover, but maybe that's because Archie speaks Russian... he's actually more well known from his Soviet Mountaineering videos than true crime.
So.... whatever happened to the casual criminalist notebooks? Our law firm specializes in criminal defense; I think it would get a hoot out of the prosecutors.
The reason why lead investigator was removed because he started relationship with Popkov's wife after his arrest. Also if you lived in 90s Russia nothing about the case seems suspicious.
Yeah, why didn't Angus mention that? It would really add credibility to his accusations of a police conspiracy to protect Popkov. I mean, it's pretty obvious that the wife was sleeping with the head guy to get her husband better treatment and possibly close the case sooner.
Hey Simon and team. One story that truly haunts me is the Bonebreaker Killer... I can't find much info about it, but it's haunted me since I heard it the first time
Can we have an episode on the Snowtown murders, the Bodies in Barrels case from South Australia.? Would love a well researched quality episode, I'm sure your talented writers would produce the most comprehensive coverage of a largely forgotten serial murder case on the internet.
There's a couple of channels on here that have covered Snowtown. But under an hour in length, I think. Have you seen the feature film based on the events?
On a different note, regarding the rant around the 28:30 mark, my mother did forensic work as part of her biology course(she was studying zoology) so no one would have to be paid. They did the "autopsies" out on the floor of what I would call the reception area. You could literally walk in and they would have a dead person being looked at.
It's not just the police that is corrupt. My old friend got into a car accident, passerby called an ambulance services and they asked for "gas money." She bled out to death cause it took them almost 3 hours to get to the scene of an accident. This is so damn bizarre, that I still can't wrap my head around this.
I can confirm, Simon is right, when you ask to see I'd of people it's appropriate to Id, we either think nothing of it or see it as due diligence. Often we're either in positions where safety is a huge thing and/or attention to detail is a must. Often we have a sense of earning our badge too so it's a bit of moment to get to show it off. No one who has a badge they deserve, regardless of position, would ever get mad at you asking. We might be mildly irritated but would never get mad. If they do, don't trust them.
As Casual Criminalist it can draw true crime fans that may not be familiar with the YT juggernaut that is Simon Whistler. But he can always make another Crime channel, and probably will.
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_Komsomolets_ is a male member of the _Komsomol_ - an organisation that was essentially Soviet boy and girl scouts, kinda like Hitlerjugend but communist. Although calling them just "Red Scouts" is a bit of an oversimplification - there were three organisations: first were "Little Octobrists", then "Young Pioneers" and finally the _Komsomol._ The name of the organisation is *All-Union Leninist Young Communist League,* although usually called _Komsomol_ from _KOMmunisticheskiy SOyuz MOLodyozhi_ - Communist Youth League. And the most popular use of the word _Komsomol_ or _Komsomolets,_ besides that K-278 submarine, is probably _Komsomolskaya Pravda_ - the name of the biggest Russian newspaper, back in the Soviet days, a Komsomol's publication.
@@taramay000 My laptop doesn't have a touch screen tho... And I was talking about while he is shooting the video. Comment is 7 months old so I can't really recall the context, but I believe, in the video, he mentions something about the length of the videos.
I have a theory of my own - I wonder if all of the additional murders he's confessed to - the ones he used to keep himself in Angarsk rather than in the definitely-not-a-gulag-labour-camp - are actually his own. As a former police officer, he'd have had access to those missing person reports, especially if the police force wasn't keeping info secret because they weren't actively hunting a cop serial killer. With his eidetic memory, he's able to remember all the cases that could plausibly fit his own criminal profile, and he can just take credit for extra crimes whenever he needs a month off in the relative luxury of the Angarsk jail. Given how far back they go, the odds of anyone catching the real culprit are pretty low (assuming the missing person didn't just say "fuck this shithole of a city, I'm moving somewhere with a decent police force" as supposedly happens for at least some missing person cases.) As for the idea of the rest of the police force being involved, I suspect it's nothing more (or less) than the standard blue wall of silence, coupled with an underestimate of exactly how bad it really was. At least in the Western world, cops often seem to have a habit of not asking about or reporting on things their coworkers really shouldn't be up to. Normally this is a bit of police brutality, a bit of taking bribes, slipping some money found as evidence into their pocket instead of the evidence locker, etc. Shitty behaviour, sure, but much lower key than serial killing of 22-83+ people. They probably figured he was up to something on the side, but he's also a cop, so it can't be that bad, can it? Like the report of him being seen going through the bag of one of his victims in the evidence locker...do you assume he's looking for evidence that indicates he murdered the lady, or do you assume he's just looking for some money for a night out that he couldn't otherwise afford? In hindsight, it's clearly the former, but at the time, most of his coworkers would assume the latter. Still problematic, still definitely should be reported to whatever passes for IA in Angarsk, but within the bounds of "acceptable" corruption. I feel like if he'd gone to any of his coworkers and said "I've killed dozens of women, want to help out?" he'd have been in cuffs within seconds. Or if the cop could pull the right strings and was sufficiently vindictive, find himself set up in a gang shootout with no backup, which would quietly remove the problem.
Yup, you've hit the nail on the head. Also even if he didn't have access to all the files, police could easily be asking leading questions or dropping hints if closing unsolved cases is useful for them.
I suspect the other officers knew something was going on, not murder but something e.g rape and he was pressured to leave the force hence why he resigned and moved to security work.
Wait, the first witness wasn't a "fallen woman". She had been at a dinner with some friends, had a bit much to drink, and just wanted to get home safely.
I think this one was done by Mr Ballen too. It’s a good story, I’m excited to hear Simons long version. I adore the longer stories. Thanks for sacrificing your voice Simon!
given the high murder rate in the city maybe a lot of the cops were on a murder spree! what were the lgbtq murder rates? how many junkies were killed? maybe the gangs were just a cover!
@@jessgunn6639 there was no such thing as lgbtq. That is a new thing. Homosexual murder rates one thing, but when lgbtq does not exist, then the lgbtq murder rates are nothing.
Simon. There is a difference between liking and loving. You love you kids no matter what but sometimes its ok not to like them lol. Still gotta love them. Mine are 22 and 19yrs old now.
You probably still could have worked with any of the intelligence agencies, even though the Cold War was over. Definitely these days they want Russian speakers. I can't even imagine how German would still be useful nowadays. Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe, sure, but they all more or less speak English anyway. I'm sure they appreciate it when foreigners speak German, but it's hardly a requirement to do business with them. My sister took German in the late '90s but had to switch to Latin when they stopped teaching German. The school thought there was more value in teaching a DEAD LANGUAGE than teaching German. French is definitely more useful than people tend to think these days, though in my experience mostly when I worked for an immigration attorney who had a lot of Haitian and West African clients, so there was still a bit of an accent barrier. French is also useful for the same reason Latin is considered useful: English derives a metric f*ckton of vocabulary from French (which is itself derived from Latin) so it's good for broader reading comprehension and the SATs. French is not useful for speaking to actual French people. They also more or less speak English, and they aren't very patient with your inferior school French.
Every time I watch Simon I’m always amazed at how much faith he has in people and institutions. It is very endearing and frustrating at the same time. Cops protect cops. I’m pretty sure this is universal. Some places have better controls to search out coverups and corruption but cops still back each other. In the US internal affairs is so closely linked with the rest of the force (many of the IA cops having served with those in the regular force) and will continue to support the regular cops. Well… those regular cops that fall in line with the corruption. Those who actually try to report the corrupt cops usually find themselves on the wrong end of an IA investigation. They leave or are forced out… and so the cycle continues.
Also, DNA sequencing is still quite expensive. Whole genome sequencing costs $10,000+ . What the DNA services do is sequence a small portions of your DNA called SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphism). This is how it is cheaper and faster. My understanding is that this would not be sufficient for use in a legal setting. Instead they sequence the entire DNA strand but don’t identify specific genes, rather they look for repeating “loci” on each chromosome. In 2017 they increased the loci from 16 to 20 to decrease the likelihood of a false match. While we think of DNA evidence as being a “perfect match” there is a VERY small possibility of a false positive (literally 1 in millions, but possible)
Спасибо, Ангус! Пожалуйста, делайте больше русских историй, это огромное и увлекательное место. Большинство англоязычных каналов вообще не подходят к этому.
As a Police Officer in America, I don't have a problem with people asking to see my I.D. and/or calling 911 to confirm my identity. People have done this when I was working a plain clothes assignment. At the same time I don't use my badge to give a stranger a ride or get into someone's home when I'm off-duty.
Regarding the conspiracy side of things you have to remember one thing. MOST police forces around the globe at that time were almost a gang unto themselves. With more resource than the ones they dealt with. I can't imagine this being better there. Any accusation against an officer would be dealt with with indifference and closing of ranks. I doubt they knew the depth of the crimes
And even if they did - the targets were people the men of the police force likely thought were unworthy of any kind of consideration - just women. Not even good, honest women - loose women and sex workers. Basically nobodies anyway. Hardly worth breaking the police shield over, especially for a cop who they likely knew as an upstanding family man who loved his kid and exercise and all those good, wholesome things.
Also, even though this was technically Russia at this time, being the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, the police force weren't Russian, they were still very much Soviet.
As a person who was born in siberia in russia and lived there till the age of 17 i can tell you for a fact that the phrase what was she thinking is a common one. And it is majority opinion in the county. He could have been encouraged by someone when he was working in police. That is a fact. People who are decent dont work in police in Russia for long either they are incriminated by superior. Yes that happens all the time. Ive had friends that were working in police in russia. They left. Especially in a murder town like this
Assuming the minimum of 3km from the murder site (that he buried stuff) that would give a nearly 30 sq km area to search. GPR would give many thousands of hits (roots, utilities, rocks etc) finding a specific thing would be nearly impossible.
I'd like to suggest the Brinks Mat robbery of the early '80's as a future video. It was described as "the crime of the century" at the time, and it wasn't only the initial robbery that was quite interesting. There were a lot of shooting deaths and other dodgy goings-on involved with the stolen bullion in the years following. I think Simon and his team would do the story justice
I love Simon so much. He constantly makes me laugh out loud with his side comments and tangents. And as a man from the Deep South, (Georgia USA) I want to tell Simon that I love your American southern accent and it’s not offensive at all. Please do it more often.
@@aimeepotts2137 technically post-Soviet, but at least early on, it was still very Soviet. His first murder was a year after the Soviet Union dissolved.
What scares me is that his first kill was an accident but after that he had a desire to kill like an addiction. You see that in more cases but that makes you wonder how big that chance is. Could anyone just all of a sudden be addicted to murder after an accidental kill? He didn't have any psychological illnesses so it makes you wonder
considering you're doing another Russian serial killer, I have request for you to cover Alexander Pichushkin: Chessboard Killer. yes Mr ballen already covered him but I want to know how The Casual Criminalist would present him. edit: fixed sentence
I hate when people say “she was asking for it”. As if humans are incapable of not raping and murdering a woman who is scantily clad. It gives an excuse for the worst of the worst to do what they do and degrades the victims of these less-than-human criminals. Be better people and hold each other to higher standards.
As heartbreaking as this story is I think one of the worst parts is the very start. Being 1500 feet from your daughter being murdered without knowing is just so hard to hear. I have a child on the way due in December and I can’t imagine what that pain would even feel like.
I’m overjoyed this video exists. I’ve been looking for a good source on Popkov for a long time [and yes I’m also impressed Angus can speak 2 languages]. I agree with the “conspiracy” that cops covertly allowed Popkov to “cull” sex workers - Popkov is far from alone for having disdain for those type of women. I’m thinking major immoral corruption. But I disagree that Popkov is so atypical. Many serial killers had “loved ones”; Radar’s daughter, Ridgeway’s son, Kuratins wife, Tagirov’s family, arguably even the Milat family [at least some members]. Hell, the West parents really loved each other if nothing else. I call this phenomenon the “morality pet” (after the trope).
Demonitizable activities. I might use this in regular lexicon. "Yeah, my girlfriend and I went home after we left you at the bar and engaged in demonitizable activities before we passed out." Way better than saying just about anything else that implies sexual activity. Thanks for this. 😁
I have heard some disturbing stories of how far organizations will go to protect their own, including the police. (If the police are willing to bring a spouse abuser to where the abused spouse is hiding, what else are they willing to do for "their own"?)
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Crime, complaining about it and sponsors who encourage games about killing! YAY! KILLING! (But still I’m here listening to stories about killing. 😅yay killing)
I lived in Russia in the early 2000s. Simon, I agree with you about not typically getting into a stranger's car, but in Russia what they call 'gypsy' cabs are common. Yes, this is probably a derogatory term. It refers to a person, usually a middle aged man, who owns a car and takes the occasional passenger to make extra cash. They are not official taxis, and they typically cost much less, meaning that they aren't as out of reach cost wise for the average person. In circumstances like Ms. Dorogova's, taking such a ride would not have been all that alarming or unusual. It's still not a great idea, obviously.
I miss seeing your mug on the thumbnail Simon, it's the easiest way to spot your videos.
Ever hear of Carl Panzram? Should do one with him.
First time viewer.
You're a weird dude.
I'm something of a weird dude myself.
Two cultural notes: it was very common in Russia in the 90s/00s for anyone with a car to essentially operate as a cab whenever they felt like it, and it was equally common to just flag down any car that would stop. I haven't been to Russia since 2000, so I don't know how common it still is. Secondly, there was probably some cultural stuff hanging around from the Soviet era going on with the police, at least early on. It was a common belief that "Russia doesn't have serial killers because that it capitalist American corruption." Russian serial killers get away with it for much longer historically because the authorities refused to believe that serial killers existed in Russia.
It's still relatively common. Some of them register in taxi services, but there're still old-timers that aren't tracked in any way.
that was normal everywhere until they was or banned or just people are told not to not use them, not a capitalist thing as they exist from way before that. you realise authorities are Russian too.
@@ak43darkhell it was licensed and not legal technically. but russia was in such a state that in 80s the cops were busy trying to get food extracted out of people and in the 90's busy trying to stay alive and not offed, this latter part is why the 'gang' violence mentioned wasn't investigated - also pretty much how the states stuff got privatized.
few people had cars and those who had did stuff to pay for the car.
Rostov ripper and that 90's movie about the morgue worker turned investigator touched on this phenomenon very well
so what youre saying is youre a russian serial killer that fled the country?
12:15 I lived in Russia in the early 2000s. In Russia what they call 'gypsy' cabs are common. Yes, this is probably a derogatory term. It refers to a person, usually a middle aged man, who owns a car and takes the occasional passenger to make extra cash. They are not official taxis, and they typically cost much less, meaning that they aren't as out of reach cost wise for the average person. In circumstances like Ms. Dorogova's, taking such a ride would not have been all that alarming or unusual. It's still not a great idea, obviously.
It's a similar thing in the Philippines. At least it was in the late 1990s. Whenever I'd visit my parents thought it a bit dodgy, too.
I took many gypsy cabs when I lived in St Pete in the late 1990s. I never did it alone, though. Always with a male friend or several people at a time.
Yeah, I worked as a manager of a yellow cab and gypsy cabs were really bad here in California too. A woman got r a p e d in one and the next thing you know every cab company is getting Federal background checks and drug tested every month. Sadly gypsy cabs never went away, they just became Uber...
So pretty much like paid hitchhiking? Which can also be a totally viable option, depending on where in the world you live.
@Charles_Anthony not really comparable but ok.
I worked in Russia for a few months and the one piece of advice that was drilled into me was if there is ANY PROBLEM WHATSOEVER do NOT go to the police, speak to colleagues who will do what they can to help the poor foreigner out.
(That and be wary of drinking heavily and going outside because you think you’re warmer than you are and people do freeze to death)
I believe the police helped one of their own out. Fully knowing what he was doing and keeping him out of prison because they also agreed with “well she deserved it”
I'll add to the 'don't go outside', alone. You'll come home in your underwear. (not me, a colleague. He was told, ignored the advice and paid with his wallet, watch, passport and clothes)
Yea. There is a lot of murder cases that started from police not showing up on first domestic abuse calls.
Yeah, here in the USA I helped an Eastern European immigrant out with a few legal issues. He'd been an officer in the Soviet military before his country got free of Soviet rule and he was prone to drinking - a lot. When drunk he was quite chatty and the things he described and admitted to had me taking note - never trust authorities in Russia, they are corrupt and if they are anywhere near as intelligent as the guy I was helping, they are capable of thinking up things that the rest of us would never dream of.
Colleague with a bloody knife in their hand: "Please do not go to the police"
Jokes aside, what do you do if your colleagues are the problem in Russia?
There's a saying about "dead " bodies found outside in the cold: "they're not dead until they're warm and dead." This is because a surprising amount of frozen people with no obvious pulse or breathing will, when warmed, develop a stronger pulse and more obvious breathing, and some will even wake up immediately upon warming.
I think that, if you're a journalist in Russia, your home should be a single story bunker with no pool, ramps instead of stairs and all the alarm systems possible (smoke, carbon mono and dioxide, geiger counters in each room). Let's be genre savvy here.
And no windows. Also hello fellow Jenna.
They would probably still somehow manage to "slip and hit their head on a door knob" after being visited by two sizeable men in black attires.
Omg this guy was enjoying the weather near a child soft playground and tripped and fell and hit head on bouncy rubber. Instantly dead. Terrible accident.
@@PataPannuWe were all so very confused when he tied himself up, beat himself half to death with half a dozen broken bones, wrapped his entire body in plastic after shooting himself in the head, and then threw himself into the nearby river after crushing his computer hard drive in a trash compacter.
"Sadly, he tripped and fell out the.... floor."
Simon and the audience are always finding out these incredible facts about the writers together during these videos lol. Cause even a passing understanding of Russian is amazing
My husband is learning Russian and he's constantly telling me about how difficult the grammar is.
Its like hieroglyphics. What does ⭐$# 👟 mean? Pretty sure its they spell Igor lol
@@zarasbazaar I know Russian (as a second language) from childhood, but, occasionally getting corrected by my mother on a particularly weird bit of grammar, always wondered how you could learn it as a foreigner... the language is a total mess...
Incredible? 🤣 Like the country they live in? Maybe you meant: "incredibly mundane".
Hi Symone 😃👋🏿
Ironically, I think the hypothermia from the Siberian winter saved Evgenia's life. I remember some war documentaries where battles fought in extreme cold actually kept soldiers from bleeding out from mortal wounds. So where Evgenia had been beaten around the head repeatedly, the cold and hypothermia saved her from a brain bleed and swelling that would have killed her at room temperature.
7:45 - Mid roll ads
9:30 - Chapter 1 - The werewolf of angarsk
19:00 - Chapter 2 - 1998
32:10 - Chapter 3 - Mikhail Popkov
44:15 - Chapter 4 - 1999
51:50 - Chapter 5 - The task force
56:45 - Chapter 6 - Arrest
1:02:20 - Chapter 7 - How many ?
1:09:40 - Chapter 8 - The conspiracy theory
1:20:25 - Wrap up
1:23:20 - Dismembered appendices
PS: Lucky for you mates, i was timecoding a 6h livestream and prefered to go check out Cash Criminalist !
you are the best for the time stamps
The spiritual successor of the pedgend that used to tally the chef's kisses and Script slaps.
Большое спасибо за то, что замечаете, каково живётся в такой стране. Постоянно ходишь на цыпочках, чтобы не задело, перестраховываешься. Очень больно за людей.
I’m sorry you have to deal with such things as this. It’s honestly scary that this is clearly still going on…
Yeah it looks pretty scary over there the corruption is crazy. Take care over there.
Hopefully one day Putin will be gone and his fellow n4zis too
I’m from the US, and I am sending you well wishes for safety, peace, and happiness. No where is perfect, but people shouldn’t be forced to live “walking on their tiptoes” as you said. Thank you for sharing.
Hopefully one day our societies can come together while also being better for the world like a chain of hippie communes that grow so much half the world lives the way it should and the other half still makes needed stuff and has education for people that want and have more specialised stuff instead of trying to cram a lot of people in a sector for the sake of a wage to live
The Oboe music when Simon starts a tangent gets me every time, never gets old. Love love love all at Casual Criminalist, keep up the good work!
Jen.... I'm 11 mins in and I have laughed out loud at least twice... to you I say: Bravo 👏 👏 👏 Angus: the opening vignette of the little girl was an excellent device to remind us of the scale of suffering when a single life is lost. The humour injected by Jen does not detract from that pathos, it helps (me at least) to decompress from the horror. I love that the humour is always directed towards the host and is never disrespectful to the victim (at least in my view). But I understand and respect the debate about the ethics of the true crime genre generally.
I hadn't thought about it per se, but this comment was perfect. Nailed it 💯
Agreed.
I just hit the part where Pedro Lopez is mentioned.. And Jen is like "here we go again." Jen is wonderful.
Oh boy would I love some Biographics videos about Simon's Casual Criminalist writers!
I have a suggestion for an episode. The state of Minnesota has executed only one woman for murder in its history and that woman was Ann Bilansky. Her grave remains unmarked though the cemetery in which she was buried is known. Love your videos and your commentaries on the cases! I’m working my way through them.
Sounds interesting!
@Matt Grande Sandy Peterson is suggesting Ann Bilansky the only woman executed for murder in MN.
Yes please!
I was raised in MN my whole life and I hadn't heard about her till now. It was an interesting read.
@@PandaMonium92827 I first found out about her from a book about murders in Minnesota. Her story is from the 1800s. The book is called Murder in Minnesota by Walter Trennery. It is available on Amazon. I found in a public library.
Long ways off, but it would be a fun April Fool's Day idea to cover a fictional criminal. Like Sweeney Todd or Spring Heeled Jack
One of Simon’s other channels “Biographics” has an April Fool’s Day biography on Sherlock Holmes so it’s a possibility, he’s done it before!
He did Edward Kenway from AC4 on bio Channel so I wouldn't put it past him.
I'm not so sure Spring Heeled Jack was fictional. Just a guy who jumped out a people in a costume and going, "boogie boogie boogie" then running away and jumping over a wall.
Sweeney Todd was a real person !
He has to do the Joker!
Yay a long one! And I don't know it right away!
Edit: I still love Simon's faith in humanity. He's talking about IA like Russia has good internal regulations that are actually utilized. Russian corruption isn't exactly a secret.
Absolutely, also his disbelief at how much police hate sex workers (and in the Gacy video, gay people). Like Simon my dude, I assure you that on the whole they think of these marginalized groups as lower than insects, so what Angus proposes here is truly not that much of a stretch.
@@Vilexxica NHI...no humans involved, is a telling designation used by police & others in positions of authority.
It's simultaneously frustrating that he can't fathom the everyday person being so shite to (an)other human(s) and gratitude he hasn't been exposed enough to know its true.
@@osric729 Absolutely true. I just feel like the US does at least a half assed attempt to pretend they aren't corrupt (of course it depends on where you are in the US), whereas Russia doesn't even try to hide it.
@@Vilexxica yeah, I don't see the "conspiracy" angle as particularly far fetched at all. I think it's probably quite likely.
Simon powering through the cold is nice of him. Me being a dad of 6, I’ve had a cold for 16 years now. I completely understand.
I also have six... if it's not a cold it's something. Always something.
@@dallasreynolds2962 always a mini-crisis to fix.
To offer my perspective, as a woman born in Russia; they probably think it's potentially their future husband. Any time, any place, any man. The bane of my grandmother's existence was me refusing to talk to any random man that showed even the slightest interest in me.
True, most of my cousins (those that went to the military, not those that went to uni) married their wives when they were 18-20 to girls that were near their base and while it may have worked for my mother's generation (where they were send to work and live in one particular location without any alternatives), I sincerely doubt that a young marriage to a person who was just there and just desperate enough could be healthy nowadays. And because most of the people around you are married young, those that didn't, have additional pressure to just do it. So it's not uncommon for a woman to ask a man if he is married the minute they meet, heck there is a pick up line that men use like "does your mother need a son-in-law?" And because I'm only half Ukrainian (with that half of the relatives living either in Ukraine or Russia) this whole sprint to the wedding hall is frankly very weird and frightening for me.
Do you think that's partially because of the Orthodox religion, or just purely out of a sense of tradition? I know in the States, the tradition of an early marriage largely died out by the 70's-'80s, but there's definitely religious groups (Evangelicals, Mormons) that still get pushed to marry quite young.
@@nickdubil90 since she’s talking about her grandmothers generation it was probably due to lack of males in Russia at the time. Due to a combination of revolutions, WWII, and Stalin’s reign of terror there was a significant shortage of men in Russia at the time.
@@nickdubil90 I doubt it's Orthodoxy too much (Russians as a rule are... not that devout, to say the least) and more tradition, albeit one that may be rooted in the Soviet era more than anything else.
@@-MarcusAurelius There is actually still a perception that men are scarce and that one must get one at any cost. I am extremely lucky in that my parents are both university educated and "got ideas" while getting said education.
I think Simon and crew should compile all of Simon’s tangents into their own video compilations.
Should they use the Thomas the Tank Engine "Here comes the tangent" or the "Tang-ent" in the intro?
Yeah just make a new channel and stop including them in the other videos.
It's fine when he talks about things related to the subject but when he starts talking about his kids using fuckin iPads or catching a train I just DONT CARE AT ALL
@@BlueBirdsProductions Cry about it. It's his show, he can do what he likes, you can either whine about it, skip those sections, or stop watching. Nothing you comment here will ever get Simon to change anything about the show.
@@teresastabler I think the Thomas the Tank Engine thing would be funny. Might run into copyright issues though.
@@BlueBirdsProductions I enjoy his tangents and find them entertaining, hence the suggestion to make them into compilations.
Recliner is reclined, Gandalf pipe packed, plenty of beverage. I'm ready for the long haul Simon. Lol Thanks Simon and Co. for posting more of your never-ending entertainment! 🍻
Right there with ya, my friend.
@@d4mdcykey 🍻👌💯 damn right
On a Monday? You are living right!
@@tamlandipper29 Simon is starting to make me lazy lol
This is the only true crime podcast that I watch or listen to. I stumbled upon it right after it started. I have premium so I use it as a podcast while I'm driving to, from, and for work. When episodes come out on the weekends I anticipate Monday mornings. 🤣 This and pretty much every show Simon has.
Very good point, just look what happened with the Kursk (submarine)
I think some corruption, some negligence, some incompetence. But I also think that there is an element of confession killer here as well. Popkov gets a better prison in exchange for cleaning up some loose ends in other unsolved cases.
I was thinking something like that. He definitely killed women, but every time he confesses he gets to go back to his old buddies.
So I guess he could use his huge memory to remember some cases he worked on and confess them, so he could come back "home" periodically. Because as Angus stated, the city has a high level of criminality, so there's bound to be some fatal cases of domestic violence, sole unresolved due to police neglect. And lo and behold, Popkov knows some details on the cases that are only known to the police. Where he worked..
@@aaronaaronsen3360 and we don't know when he got diagnosed with "photographic memory". If it was after he was arrested it's just a fanciful alternative to the police feeding him information to confess with.
34:35 I've a feeling Simon's kids will be going thru the archives of his many channels trying to find evidence of who he loved more.
My dad did lectures and public speaking for years. My sister finally told me of her years long, festering resentment that in watching old taped of him is that he constantly told stories about me and not so many about her. I was the oldest by a lot and around as he did all the misadventures that he later wrote about.
I love both my kids equally but depending on the day and circumstance, I do sometimes LIKE one of them more than the other. Kids are a**holes some days. Still love the crap out of them though.
That being said, yeah his daughter is definitely going to enjoy listening back to this lol
You may want to take into account that he first started killing soon after the fall of the Soviet Union. The Soviets did not like to admit that their systems would produce the likes of serial killers. That outlook lends to covering things up, especially in those earliest years.
Good point. It was a very chaotic wild east time in Russia.
And that the Russian Mob basically ran a lot of things.
That doesn't make sense? He didn't kill until the Soviets ended. How is it the Soviets fault that some guy went insane?
@@someturkishguy8638 it makes perfect sense. He was raised within the dystopic soviet government system - like most of his troubled victims, who were also products of the dystopic system.
@@skyhawk_4526 no lol you're just saying funny words to sound smart
The stuff Simon is saying around the 16:30 mark about one bad source spreading around the internet is sooo true. I’m a journalist and I’ve gotten original scoops/stories before where I’ve made an error or been given bad intel that I later corrected, only to have competitors in my field repeat those same mistakes without citing a source. Even when the original source runs a redaction or update, the rest of the articles don’t in my experience
I think his original number of victims was more accurate and he's using his photographic memory of missing women's cases when he was a police officer to avoid a prison that would be a lot less comfortable (which to be fair shouldn't exist even if you've done horrible crimes). That number is inflated with false confessions.
No joke, that first lass who survived the attack obviously had a body and soul of steel. What a legend.
Love the deep dives. It sets you apart from the other channels. That and Simon's wandering cortex.
Wow! That’s the name of Whistler’s next channel! “Simon’s wandering cortex.”
I’d watch the crap out of that 1!
Check out Archie's True Crime. I very rarely mention other channels but he covered this one a month before Angus and Simon and still managed to deliver information about the case that this channel failed to cover, but maybe that's because Archie speaks Russian... he's actually more well known from his Soviet Mountaineering videos than true crime.
I always enjoy a good wholesome Simon Dad Moment
So.... whatever happened to the casual criminalist notebooks? Our law firm specializes in criminal defense; I think it would get a hoot out of the prosecutors.
I think some were released but they pretty much immediately sold out :(
Simon announced their availability on Twitter and within 2 hours they were sold out
The reason why lead investigator was removed because he started relationship with Popkov's wife after his arrest. Also if you lived in 90s Russia nothing about the case seems suspicious.
Yeah, why didn't Angus mention that? It would really add credibility to his accusations of a police conspiracy to protect Popkov. I mean, it's pretty obvious that the wife was sleeping with the head guy to get her husband better treatment and possibly close the case sooner.
Hey Simon and team. One story that truly haunts me is the Bonebreaker Killer... I can't find much info about it, but it's haunted me since I heard it the first time
The writer for this episode did a very good job. One of the best scripts I’ve heard on this channel. He should write a book.
Can we have an episode on the Snowtown murders, the Bodies in Barrels case from South Australia.? Would love a well researched quality episode, I'm sure your talented writers would produce the most comprehensive coverage of a largely forgotten serial murder case on the internet.
John Bunting, the true Australia's most notorious serial killer.
There's a couple of channels on here that have covered Snowtown. But under an hour in length, I think. Have you seen the feature film based on the events?
You got your wish
@@AncientIrishCelt yes, I did. It was a great episode. Best I've seen on the subject.
Nothing better than a 90 minute CC when you're having a Monday from hell. Thanks Simon and Co 💙
Hope your day gets better!
I hear you sister!
Soo .. Monday 😂
@@PracticalTacticalFedeli Every. Single. Monday.
@@Darkflowerchyld718 hang tough it’s almost Tuesday ..😂
On a different note, regarding the rant around the 28:30 mark, my mother did forensic work as part of her biology course(she was studying zoology) so no one would have to be paid. They did the "autopsies" out on the floor of what I would call the reception area. You could literally walk in and they would have a dead person being looked at.
Whistle Boy, you never disappoint! Best true crime show there is.
It's not just the police that is corrupt. My old friend got into a car accident, passerby called an ambulance services and they asked for "gas money." She bled out to death cause it took them almost 3 hours to get to the scene of an accident. This is so damn bizarre, that I still can't wrap my head around this.
I can confirm, Simon is right, when you ask to see I'd of people it's appropriate to Id, we either think nothing of it or see it as due diligence. Often we're either in positions where safety is a huge thing and/or attention to detail is a must. Often we have a sense of earning our badge too so it's a bit of moment to get to show it off.
No one who has a badge they deserve, regardless of position, would ever get mad at you asking. We might be mildly irritated but would never get mad. If they do, don't trust them.
I'm adding 'demonitizable activity' to my casual conversation repertoire. Thank you!
Whoever decided not to call this channel "Crime Time With Simon" really dropped the ball
Allegedly!
As Casual Criminalist it can draw true crime fans that may not be familiar with the YT juggernaut that is Simon Whistler. But he can always make another Crime channel, and probably will.
That'll be for the quick (less than 10mins) episodes... Crime Time in Under a Dime
The murder minute with Simon Whistler "Script by Danny, OMG 2 paragrahs! DANNY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS! Bernard died in 1974 when Joseph stabbed him 187 times with a toothpick. Bloody heck that's some dedication, you would think he would use something more efficient, like a spon. His murderer had mommy issues, this video brought to you by RAID SHADOW! HAH no no just kidding, idiot got caught because he wrote down his crimes, never write down your crimes. Thanks for watching and remember to check out our sponsor because do you know who likes money? Thiiiis guy likes money!"
No, they didn't.
_Komsomolets_ is a male member of the _Komsomol_ - an organisation that was essentially Soviet boy and girl scouts, kinda like Hitlerjugend but communist.
Although calling them just "Red Scouts" is a bit of an oversimplification - there were three organisations: first were "Little Octobrists", then "Young Pioneers" and finally the _Komsomol._
The name of the organisation is *All-Union Leninist Young Communist League,* although usually called _Komsomol_ from _KOMmunisticheskiy SOyuz MOLodyozhi_ - Communist Youth League.
And the most popular use of the word _Komsomol_ or _Komsomolets,_ besides that K-278 submarine, is probably _Komsomolskaya Pravda_ - the name of the biggest Russian newspaper, back in the Soviet days, a Komsomol's publication.
I love this channel and I love Simon.
Thanks for all the effort you have put in. I think I have watched most of your videos and can't get enough.
Hard to predict how long the episode will be from just the number of pages. It all depends on how many tangents you'll go on. Loving the channel. 5/5*
Just tap the screen and it’ll show you the length
@@taramay000 My laptop doesn't have a touch screen tho... And I was talking about while he is shooting the video. Comment is 7 months old so I can't really recall the context, but I believe, in the video, he mentions something about the length of the videos.
I have a theory of my own - I wonder if all of the additional murders he's confessed to - the ones he used to keep himself in Angarsk rather than in the definitely-not-a-gulag-labour-camp - are actually his own. As a former police officer, he'd have had access to those missing person reports, especially if the police force wasn't keeping info secret because they weren't actively hunting a cop serial killer. With his eidetic memory, he's able to remember all the cases that could plausibly fit his own criminal profile, and he can just take credit for extra crimes whenever he needs a month off in the relative luxury of the Angarsk jail. Given how far back they go, the odds of anyone catching the real culprit are pretty low (assuming the missing person didn't just say "fuck this shithole of a city, I'm moving somewhere with a decent police force" as supposedly happens for at least some missing person cases.)
As for the idea of the rest of the police force being involved, I suspect it's nothing more (or less) than the standard blue wall of silence, coupled with an underestimate of exactly how bad it really was. At least in the Western world, cops often seem to have a habit of not asking about or reporting on things their coworkers really shouldn't be up to. Normally this is a bit of police brutality, a bit of taking bribes, slipping some money found as evidence into their pocket instead of the evidence locker, etc. Shitty behaviour, sure, but much lower key than serial killing of 22-83+ people. They probably figured he was up to something on the side, but he's also a cop, so it can't be that bad, can it? Like the report of him being seen going through the bag of one of his victims in the evidence locker...do you assume he's looking for evidence that indicates he murdered the lady, or do you assume he's just looking for some money for a night out that he couldn't otherwise afford? In hindsight, it's clearly the former, but at the time, most of his coworkers would assume the latter. Still problematic, still definitely should be reported to whatever passes for IA in Angarsk, but within the bounds of "acceptable" corruption. I feel like if he'd gone to any of his coworkers and said "I've killed dozens of women, want to help out?" he'd have been in cuffs within seconds. Or if the cop could pull the right strings and was sufficiently vindictive, find himself set up in a gang shootout with no backup, which would quietly remove the problem.
Yup, you've hit the nail on the head. Also even if he didn't have access to all the files, police could easily be asking leading questions or dropping hints if closing unsolved cases is useful for them.
I suspect the other officers knew something was going on, not murder but something e.g rape and he was pressured to leave the force hence why he resigned and moved to security work.
Wait, the first witness wasn't a "fallen woman". She had been at a dinner with some friends, had a bit much to drink, and just wanted to get home safely.
I think this one was done by Mr Ballen too. It’s a good story, I’m excited to hear Simons long version. I adore the longer stories. Thanks for sacrificing your voice Simon!
this was a very interesting episode. thank you simon and thank you angus
My stepdad used to say “I love you with all my heart, but I don’t always like you”. Totally fair, I could be a real P.O.S. sometimes
"Those Russian cops sure are competent and above board," said no one ever.
given the high murder rate in the city maybe a lot of the cops were on a murder spree! what were the lgbtq murder rates? how many junkies were killed? maybe the gangs were just a cover!
@@jessgunn6639 My thoughts are that they "credited" a bunch of extra killings to him to close a bunch of cases
Bare in mind that the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 and this guy started killing in 1992. The police were still Soviet police.
@@jessgunn6639 there was no such thing as lgbtq. That is a new thing. Homosexual murder rates one thing, but when lgbtq does not exist, then the lgbtq murder rates are nothing.
@@garymaidman625 the name lgbtq may not have existed but the people still did they didn`t suddenly appear because someone came up with a name!
Simon. There is a difference between liking and loving. You love you kids no matter what but sometimes its ok not to like them lol. Still gotta love them. Mine are 22 and 19yrs old now.
Great video! Could you get one written about "The Iceman" Richard Kuklinski. Might be a good read!
I already mentioned it on another video and Matt replied back and said he is working on it.
Thank you Angus and Jen.
Thanks for another in depth episode! Do you think you all could do an episode on the DC sniper sometime?
I learned to speak Russian in high school in the early 90’s it hasn’t been as useful as my friends who we’re learning French, German and Spanish
You probably still could have worked with any of the intelligence agencies, even though the Cold War was over. Definitely these days they want Russian speakers. I can't even imagine how German would still be useful nowadays. Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe, sure, but they all more or less speak English anyway. I'm sure they appreciate it when foreigners speak German, but it's hardly a requirement to do business with them. My sister took German in the late '90s but had to switch to Latin when they stopped teaching German. The school thought there was more value in teaching a DEAD LANGUAGE than teaching German.
French is definitely more useful than people tend to think these days, though in my experience mostly when I worked for an immigration attorney who had a lot of Haitian and West African clients, so there was still a bit of an accent barrier. French is also useful for the same reason Latin is considered useful: English derives a metric f*ckton of vocabulary from French (which is itself derived from Latin) so it's good for broader reading comprehension and the SATs. French is not useful for speaking to actual French people. They also more or less speak English, and they aren't very patient with your inferior school French.
Every time I watch Simon I’m always amazed at how much faith he has in people and institutions. It is very endearing and frustrating at the same time.
Cops protect cops. I’m pretty sure this is universal. Some places have better controls to search out coverups and corruption but cops still back each other. In the US internal affairs is so closely linked with the rest of the force (many of the IA cops having served with those in the regular force) and will continue to support the regular cops. Well… those regular cops that fall in line with the corruption. Those who actually try to report the corrupt cops usually find themselves on the wrong end of an IA investigation. They leave or are forced out… and so the cycle continues.
Also, DNA sequencing is still quite expensive. Whole genome sequencing costs $10,000+ . What the DNA services do is sequence a small portions of your DNA called SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphism). This is how it is cheaper and faster. My understanding is that this would not be sufficient for use in a legal setting. Instead they sequence the entire DNA strand but don’t identify specific genes, rather they look for repeating “loci” on each chromosome. In 2017 they increased the loci from 16 to 20 to decrease the likelihood of a false match. While we think of DNA evidence as being a “perfect match” there is a VERY small possibility of a false positive (literally 1 in millions, but possible)
“They’re a quite good serial killer” is an odd sentence. Thank you fact man
Poor Simon sounds like I feel right now. The joys of the school year...
I love falling to sleep to his videos at night! Anyone else?
I love it because I end up having the weirdest dreams
Football, not soccer, just saying.
I love the longer episodes so much
"Make a cup of tea."
The five most British words ever.
That concluding line before the dismembered appendices... chef's kiss.
I was waiting for this for so long!
Whoo, another episode to help make that first Monday back at work after a holiday weekend go by quicker. 👍
Спасибо, Ангус! Пожалуйста, делайте больше русских историй, это огромное и увлекательное место. Большинство англоязычных каналов вообще не подходят к этому.
Wow, this was a wild ride. Well written but dang it Angus, I was supposed to be washing dishes! (Thank you)
Was about to clean and decorate for Christmas, perfect timing for a new CC video
As a Police Officer in America, I don't have a problem with people asking to see my I.D. and/or calling 911 to confirm my identity. People have done this when I was working a plain clothes assignment.
At the same time I don't use my badge to give a stranger a ride or get into someone's home when I'm off-duty.
Very very well written. Thank you for this script.
Gotta remember she got in his car in the first one because the car was a cop car and he was a cop
A cold! Thank goodness. I thought the material had gotten to you. Just in case, take care of yourself and thank you for your master storytelling. ❤
Multiple CC episodes in one week? Amazing.
An absolute BANGER of an episode Simon!
Regarding the conspiracy side of things you have to remember one thing. MOST police forces around the globe at that time were almost a gang unto themselves. With more resource than the ones they dealt with. I can't imagine this being better there. Any accusation against an officer would be dealt with with indifference and closing of ranks. I doubt they knew the depth of the crimes
Yup internal affairs is laughable when you take into account the blue wall of silence.
And even if they did - the targets were people the men of the police force likely thought were unworthy of any kind of consideration - just women. Not even good, honest women - loose women and sex workers. Basically nobodies anyway. Hardly worth breaking the police shield over, especially for a cop who they likely knew as an upstanding family man who loved his kid and exercise and all those good, wholesome things.
Also, even though this was technically Russia at this time, being the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, the police force weren't Russian, they were still very much Soviet.
Thanks for another time passer, good episode
As a person who was born in siberia in russia and lived there till the age of 17 i can tell you for a fact that the phrase what was she thinking is a common one. And it is majority opinion in the county. He could have been encouraged by someone when he was working in police. That is a fact. People who are decent dont work in police in Russia for long either they are incriminated by superior. Yes that happens all the time. Ive had friends that were working in police in russia. They left. Especially in a murder town like this
Watching your videos while stoned is so awesome
Assuming the minimum of 3km from the murder site (that he buried stuff) that would give a nearly 30 sq km area to search. GPR would give many thousands of hits (roots, utilities, rocks etc) finding a specific thing would be nearly impossible.
Ahhh the good ole blue cable knit and blazer combo. Continuity, ftw
I'd like to suggest the Brinks Mat robbery of the early '80's as a future video. It was described as "the crime of the century" at the time, and it wasn't only the initial robbery that was quite interesting. There were a lot of shooting deaths and other dodgy goings-on involved with the stolen bullion in the years following. I think Simon and his team would do the story justice
Also the great train robbery in the UK 🇬🇧
I love Simon so much. He constantly makes me laugh out loud with his side comments and tangents. And as a man from the Deep South, (Georgia USA) I want to tell Simon that I love your American southern accent and it’s not offensive at all. Please do it more often.
One of the most Soviet-era stories I've ever heard. Thanks Angus, Simon and the rest 👍
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@@aimeepotts2137 technically post-Soviet, but at least early on, it was still very Soviet. His first murder was a year after the Soviet Union dissolved.
That was a hell of a roller coaster.
What scares me is that his first kill was an accident but after that he had a desire to kill like an addiction. You see that in more cases but that makes you wonder how big that chance is. Could anyone just all of a sudden be addicted to murder after an accidental kill? He didn't have any psychological illnesses so it makes you wonder
Thank you guys bed bound with slipped disc and you post a video. Gteat evening in pain
considering you're doing another Russian serial killer, I have request for you to cover Alexander Pichushkin: Chessboard Killer. yes Mr ballen already covered him but I want to know how The Casual Criminalist would present him.
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Yes please!
Spesivtsev would be a good fit too.
Thank you
I hate when people say “she was asking for it”. As if humans are incapable of not raping and murdering a woman who is scantily clad. It gives an excuse for the worst of the worst to do what they do and degrades the victims of these less-than-human criminals. Be better people and hold each other to higher standards.
Didn’t he himself say that? Like the guy who was actually doing it
Pretty much every month i find a new channel Simen hosts... This man really likes the hustle
As heartbreaking as this story is I think one of the worst parts is the very start. Being 1500 feet from your daughter being murdered without knowing is just so hard to hear. I have a child on the way due in December and I can’t imagine what that pain would even feel like.
Do you like ck3? It's on my channel
27:22 Simon with the Cartman style “Allegedly” 🤣
I’m overjoyed this video exists. I’ve been looking for a good source on Popkov for a long time [and yes I’m also impressed Angus can speak 2 languages]. I agree with the “conspiracy” that cops covertly allowed Popkov to “cull” sex workers - Popkov is far from alone for having disdain for those type of women. I’m thinking major immoral corruption.
But I disagree that Popkov is so atypical. Many serial killers had “loved ones”; Radar’s daughter, Ridgeway’s son, Kuratins wife, Tagirov’s family, arguably even the Milat family [at least some members]. Hell, the West parents really loved each other if nothing else. I call this phenomenon the “morality pet” (after the trope).
DAMN JEN, that was some good compression on Simon's scream.
"Who polices the police??" *laughs in American
33:41 Yes... That is because you're a good and loving parent. They, however, very very much were not.
Demonitizable activities.
I might use this in regular lexicon.
"Yeah, my girlfriend and I went home after we left you at the bar and engaged in demonitizable activities before we passed out."
Way better than saying just about anything else that implies sexual activity.
Thanks for this. 😁
Thanmk you.
Holy cow, I'm with Angus here: Popkov was the front man for some kind of police force wide activity!
Thanks for another one :)
I have heard some disturbing stories of how far organizations will go to protect their own, including the police. (If the police are willing to bring a spouse abuser to where the abused spouse is hiding, what else are they willing to do for "their own"?)