What Does an Illegal GMRS Repeater Sound like.
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2024
- In the United States, GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) operates on specific frequencies allocated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). GMRS channel 5 is designated for simplex communications, meaning it's intended for direct radio-to-radio communication between users within range, without the use of repeaters.
Using a repeater on GMRS channel 5 without proper authorization or licensing would likely be considered illegal. Repeater operation on GMRS requires a separate FCC license, and the frequencies used for repeaters are different from those used for simplex channels.
Operating a repeater without the proper authorization can result in fines, license revocation, and other penalties imposed by the FCC. It's important for GMRS users to understand and comply with the regulations to ensure legal and responsible use of the radio spectrum.
thank you for protecting us from ourselves. If you dont want to listen to their chatter, change your CTCSS/ DCS tone.
I don't mind, personally, I play with the big boys; but since you don't like to be told what to do. I suggest if you do this maybe you as the repeater operator should use your own CTCSS codes rather than being a clown and hogging 1 of only 7 Simplex channels. Common curdiousy is just not common anymore, this is why we need our overlords to fine folks. Living 11 years in Japan they have common sense and cultural rules, because of this they have VERY few rules, regulations and laws imposed on the public. It is so wonderful to be surrounded by people like that.
Yeah, you don't hear the busy channel but it is still unusable when somebody else is on it.
@@BaaSicStuff😅 you didn’t just use Japan as a role model did you?
@@thecasualpkm8534 Absolutely I did, a county with intact families and that know how to behave without the law coming into it. 11 years in Japan, if there was an issue on a train or what not it was always a mouthy American....it's so embarrassing. If its the military thing you speak of, the Japanese are our number one alley now for YEARS. they are great to work with
😅
This guy took down AT&T
Haha 😂😂
That was Capt Crunch
Lmao the guy with the truckbomb in Nashville?
Great comment
😂😂
When I was a kid, me and my buddy found a old truck in my uncles field, it had a CB in it and the battery was still good. We used to harass truckers on 19 with sister jokes.
Those were the good old days lol
Sister jokes😂
Once I talked on channel 9 on the CB, and I think the cops are still looking for me
Yes they are and they'll find you.
They never were looking for you..
Too coooool for school
Me too. Hey was that you?
All I hear on channel 9 on my cb.is Mexican
Ham radio snobs when you use repeaters and ham radios without a license: 🤓 “Erm, I’m reporting you to the FCC”.
The FCC in real life: stop bothering us! We are incredibly underfunded and do not care.
“IM IN CHARGE OF HOW THOSE FREQUENCIES OF SOUND WAVE ARE USED”
It's amazing how the requirements of putting out the slightest effort will keep the trash out.
That's why the early Internet was so great, there was a barrier to entry, you had to know a good deal just to get to that point. People were more helpful as well. Once everyone had access things went to shit pretty quickly 😆
@@origintrackz5235 I'm not saying people don't have a right to communication options by any means,I just don't want it ruined to were nobody can enjoy it,let alone make use of it. Australia had a series of government provided repeaters,free of charge for GMRS radios. The mess that became of it is the reason it isn't there anymore.
Without the Internet I wouldn't be able to unlock my radio
I really need this explaining in simple terms for my simple brain to understand.
There is a ton of rules and regulations of standardization around using radio in the United States. So something is simply as using a ham radio without acquiring the license and getting clearance to do so could involve trouble from the wall. At least once. Upon a time within a short period of time of you just broadcasting a simple signal. They would come to your door to make sure you're held accountable for abusing their radio waves LO. L just dumb government shit.
Same 😂
I didn’t understand a bit of it and not sure why repeating your words would be a problem unless it just takes over the entire channel and no one can communicate.
It’s okay to say not knowledgeable lol I don’t know anything about this either.
Radio to radio would be instantaneous. Repeater, transfers what you said during your whole key time.
It's called a PARROT REPEATER and they have been around for decades.
Still not legal on GMRS
It's not technically a repeater, you don't know what you're talking about
@@allenyourtech Oh? I don't? How old are you Sonny and where did you go to school?
@@mobiltec libtard
There is something heartwarming when strangers help to get your message across the world.
The MARS system is a great message handling system for just that. Weekends (Sundays I think) on shortwave. And you get to request surplus military equipment. 😅
@@patvickers8189how
You ham nerds are the hobby equivalent of hall monitors
some can be lol 🎫
That would be because a core tenet of ham radio is that it is self-policing.
If you don't want to play within the rules, don't complain when someone calls you out on your BS.
Unfortunately, boneheads like you were the reason we had to have a hall monitor.
I think they are just mad because their hobby has become highly obsolete. Its like studying shorthand from the 30s. Nobody uses that, nobody needs to know how to write shorthand... when steno machines exist... when recording devices exist and speech to text exist... when AI exist.
Its one of those "this is cool!" things that some people find the need to jump on. Highly regulated, price prohibitive for anyone thats trying to actually do anything with it since 2M is obsolete now that 10M is covered under Novice licenses and doesnt require moris code testing. But then you get into the need for expensive amps, big antennas and towers to put those antennas on... if you are wanting to actually talk to anyone.
GMRS is for those of us that want to use a functional/quality handytalky without all the nonsense restrictions. I dont see a problem with the repeater. So what its on a simplex channel. Just dont use the repeater offset...
Though, whats even the problem? Its not "unusable" Its MORE usable. You can talk further than you could before... you arnt going anywhere in the city without a repeater. I talked to my dad simplex with a long whip on my handheld and got about 3 miles max range. A repeater in the top of my 60 foot trees would reach his house 20 miles away and more. Anyone else could use it, i give zero fucks. Its not like anyone else has a repeater here... since nobody uses radios to talk, because we all have cell phones...
@@Kiba69420 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
Now days everything is illegal.
everything fun is illegal.
@@Captain-Nikolaisometimes i just wish the government would ban itself
The home of the free but everything is either illegal or the government charges you so it now becomes a privilege.
My favorite is "illegal" Lego building 🙄
Except mary gee wanna and alcohol. Ironic huh?
We were building fully functional repeaters out of two mobile radios back in the early 1980s. Small enough to fit in a suitcase. Solid state isolation through filtering. Nothing digital. Worked like a charm.
Hams have thousands of frequencies they could choose to use at any time of the day or night yet they choose to sit on a single frequency for hours complaining when someone else extends their range to use it to talk to their friends or uses a frequency that no one else is using.
They complain the bands are dead, they complain about newbies entering the hobby. They complain about new technologies being introduced to help the hobby yet they are still not happy. It’s hard to please these people…
Repeater frequencies are tight though even in the HAM world
That's no joke either! Hell,it's like a RUclips comment section.
I like to argue with the repeater.
Also known as Sad HAMs.
apply for a business frequence, not a big deal, being legit is always a good investment
This is the weirdest shit I've stumbled across in a while
Its a world that's all around you and you never knew
This is actually really normal. Just radio enthusiasts.
Every single semi truck driver is a participate.
You wanna see actual weird radio stuff, lookup competition key down trucks.
@@BadHarmonicsCB.. citizen's band . Not han
@@madtownjay4065 I'm not talking about band.
He said it's weird.
Talking on a radio( any band) is extremely normal, a repeater is normal.
A competition key down truck is exceedingly rare and odd.
I grew up with a ham father burying antennas in the yard, and I never heard of a key drop truck, so I figured he would find it as weird as I did.
@@BadHarmonicsbelieve it or not there is 2 key down trucks in my neighborhood one has 2 9ft whips and the other is a red suburban I believe with some crazy cophased groundplane radial antennas Im just waiting for they day I hear them key up lmao
This is the kind of guy who will get pissed off at you answering his CQ if you aren’t in the region he’s going for.
totally that guy for sure lol
@@BaaSicStuffglad you admit it
@@owentimo Its just better when I'm in charge, you'll come around
@@BaaSicStuff Well now that you've replied I feel guilty for the tease, never thought you'd see it, lol...glad to see you have a thick skin.
Okay yes according to the band plan, gmrs 5 is supposed to be simplex. However the device he is showing you. Is simplex. That's why they call them Simplex repeaters. Because it is recording the audio that it receives and then retransmitting the audio after it receives it. A true repeater is a duplex device meaning it has one frequency for the input one frequency for the output. So that wallet is receiving it is also retransmitting at the same time. Both of these systems do work to extend the range of two-way Communications equipment. However the the Simplex repeater or what is commonly referred to as it actually very useful. And the fact that it can be deployed easily without having to deal with Toon filter cavities duplexes and any number of other devices that end up in a repeater system to isolate the transmitter and receiver. Also it can be used in a portable or mobile operation. These have been used by commercial radio companies by the military and by amateur radio operators since the invention of digital voice recording circuits, actually before that they did have one that used Magnetic Tape but it didn't work very well and wore out fairly quickly. So to sum it up what he's actually demonstrating is a Simplex use of a Simplex frequency truthfully his beef is the fact that there's no operator most likely where that radio is. And no one is controlling it and turning it on and off when it's not in need. But under the fcc's definition that would still meet at a simplex use. Because the radio must receive the signal pause and then we transmit the signal and it all takes place on the same frequency. The definition of simplex. I do see his frustration with these devices, as they are readily available by any number of Chinese import apps or Amazon eBay or whatever. You just plug it into your boof Fong handheld, and by the way may or may not be useful for the service you're actually using it on. You cannot use any of those chinese-made radios in the commercial land mobile Radio Service frequencies. They do not meet the FCC requirements they're only usable by amateur radio operators because of the wide tolerances that they're given. Even in that case some of those radios exceed the tolerances that ham operators are even allowed to deviate from.
‘Boof Fong’ made me laugh 😂
RUclips listens, my coworker is into this stuff and yeah, we were talking about it the other day.
So scary. I suddenly get pimple popper videos because I was making fun of what my girlfriend is watching.
I’ve tried getting into 4 different radio clubs and they were horrible rude $h1t people! So now I’m winging it!
That's 99% of hams. Old boomer dickheads.
Just keep looking for decent people to talk to and learn from. We're having similar troubles in ham radio.
Think of it this way. A few trips showed you many people you have no interest in talking to. It saved you a lot of time😂. Try a few of the different groups online. Both in this hobby and the hams. Somewhere you'll find a good group to learn from!
It's not illegal. It's a simplex retransmiter.
Im not sure that you are correct would you have a reference that would help us all out
@comeau Lots of comments here, you disagreed with my video, Many comments from those that "think" they know but none of these types ever provide anything but flap jaw. Until then you are speaking from one's ass and we all find it very entertaining. Now there have been many comments that have educated me greatly, as an intelligent person I respond by saying thank you. As to the legality of this simplexer, repeater; anyone that has even the most vague working knowledge of GMRS knows this is illegal, in every way possible.
@@samuelcomeau I just made a video on it if you wish to hunt this man down with the FCC? I personally think our government has better things to do and bigger fish to fry, but if I can educate the public on common courtesy maybe someone may take that on board. Like clowns that key up when you try to speak, very common on some repeaters that are too open, some get off on being annoying. Having a single band radio keyed up all the time which repeats everything people say, is considered a jammer in reality. If we get enough of these clowns once again our government will need to step in and teach Americans how to behave. It amazes me the lack of intelligence we have that requires so many laws, the absence of culture has been devastating to this country. Its entitlement disguised as FREEDOM, this is not your second amendment right or your airways. People pay good money to set these repeaters up for the use of all, private citizens and some clubs with annual dues all this is managed by the FCC. Entitled spoiled brats feel they can interfere with that and call it freedom BS and once again we will need another law cause just another American does not respect others. This is why Democratic Liberalism in the absence of culture will never work here and that's why I vote conservative, we are country of LAWS now.
@@BaaSicStuffIt's not "culture". It's people. Democratic liberalism worked nearly flawlessly when we didn't import the third world. It worked great when the US was close to 90% European founding stock.
In fact, most political systems work fine if the *people* are of a high enough intelligence and homogenous. Only _then_ will a great culture be preserved and respected (see Japan that meets these conditions and also has very strict immigration control)
@@MrCarGuyJapan Is failing without immigration it’s doomed
Man do i miss the mid 80s to late 90s, sitting in the garage tinkering, listning to the scanner all night, on search not scan, frequncys 869.000 thru 896.000 non stop cells.
This could definitely come in handy. Thanks.
Radio nazis when someone uses a radio:😱😱😱😱😡😡😡😡😡😡
DO as your told or lead there is no inbetween the rest are thieves
@@BaaSicStuffthere's a third option for tyrants. But that would violate TOS.
@@BaaSicStuffyes as the greats have always said: question nothing, your leaders know everything.
@@BaaSicStuff Cry more. Boo Hooppp
@@owentimo I direct you do as your told, folks love a good idea; makes life easier for everyone
You just used it????😂
Well sure I would, its on a public channel? Raining today, pure static today
Technically speaking this isnt illegal. It might be annoying to those who enjoy using simplex, but it's not explicity disallowed.
Sounds like it makes grms5 totally usable, with greater reliability
like networking repeaters across the internet as ROIP (Radio Over IP) where you can use smartphone PTT apps like Zello to talk into a repeater system from anywhere you have data connection and the channels login credentials of course
It. Is. Illegal. Which word do you not understand? You can have LEGAL repeaters on GMRS.
From what I remember from my networking classes simplex means "one way communication". No mention of repeaters
smart man you are
omg noooooo a repeater on gmrs its illegal call swat
The only issue here is that they set the wrong channel.
and it TX and RX on the same frequency
Nothing is better then cb radio
That is why I'm still on a CB Radio
Screw your rules and regulations.
YEA! Down with the MAN! YEEEE HAA
Yup. And that gives corporate 'merica the excuse to take your frequencies.
It is still simplex. It is NOT illegal.
100% correct, just more Sad Hams thinking they’re something of authority. Nothing illegal about this if proper power levels are maintained.
But simplex is not a repeater.
@@garrettstephens91 a repeater can be dualplex or simplex. You can get a simplex repeater from MFJ for about $65
@@garrettstephens91 not all repeaters are dualplex.
That isn’t much of a thing anymore because the local first responders and authorities are all swapping to locked channels that cant be accessed due to their digital features
GMRS, HAM, CB, it's like policing a desert. Really, there is so little activity I'm just glad to see someone get some use out of the precious deserted airwaves.
I thought it sounded pretty good. Should society fail and anarchy rules you will see loads of these being utilized by tech savvy people. Legal or not they will use them.
Guns will be the same way but to practice and hone those skills you need to be legal for now.
You live 99% of your life in total anarchy. Anarchy means " without rulers" not without rules. People are very capable of self policing and dealing with crime far more efficiently and without the state sponsored murder.. especially in large scale mass murder the private sector could never compete with the state in mass slaughter.
@@keithbaker1951 You sound very intelligent, and you surround yourself with others that are very intelligent but you fail to realize that we are also surrounded by those that are not. We are surrounded by those that are governed in the moment, that there is no reasoning with them. Not only do these types not save for or value their future they will punch your philosophical face and take your future without a thought. They see what you have as low hanging fruit to be taken. Your opinions, ideas are made in that wealth and security that our laws have created, you enjoy these freedoms because we have provided that environment that you take for granted. Like the socialist that steals from those that have worked or invented our society your ideas are only entertained until they no longer have anything to steel or safety is lost.
Your viewpoint disregards all those that died for your ability to speak as you do. A land where the sheep dog has a role other than eating the sheep.
@@keithbaker1951there are so many laws on the books no one person can read them all. The average law abiding citizen commits three felonies a day unknowingly. You literally can't do anything without breaking the law in one form or another.
That is my repeater. Don't like it? I'll put one on every channel
Coming after you. RUclips police 👮🏻 hunters lol 😂
@@BaaSicStuffWell ya'll were talking about DF ing him and showing up on his property.
We already run 2 for the last 7 years .
"Don't like it? I'll put one on every channel"
Typical refugee from the Children's Band. Am I not offensive enough? Hold my radio! I'll spend a thousand dollars to offend you! Oh, you aren't listening to GMRS. Well, I'll be offending someone, somewhere! That's what matters.
@@thomasmaughan4798 you mad cause I got money?
I can have a phone that talks to the other side of the world but god forbid I have a radio more powerful than a cereal box toy
cell phones can and fill fail us when we most need them, radio also puts you in contact with everyone for miles, feeding you all kinds of info. Better than fake News
My question would be, why not use the repeater channels. Thats weird. But then again near me a rest home uses channel 15 for daily operations. I know there is nothing wrong with that and you can just use a different pl tone and never really step on anyone but still thats odd too. Its more than likely somone had no idea how its supposed to work.
Or figured that since like 3 people per state use GMRS to talk with any regularity besides certain businesses, then setting up a repeater wasnt an issue.
I think everyone has thought about doing something like this at one point or another, anyone thats more into it than a little anyway.
@obeyance your not wrong. All i ever hear is frs kids radios and a assisted living facility
Think of a small rural community where most folks aren't hams or only have the lower cost simplex GMRS radios. This lowers cost to the community to have an effective emergency communications system. The simplex repeater owner may have access to the EOC via VHF and can send welfare messages via HF. This kind of setup is only a problem for ham Karens getting in a control freak frenzy.
I wouldn't think hams in the area would care. That's not part of our frequencies. I worry about keeping our frequencies to a good standard so they won't be taken away from us. Corporations try every year to take some of our frequencies. My only complaint about FRS or gmrs is business use of them.
And I think a community repeater is a Wonderful idea. I had a friend who kept a cb channel clean for that purpose. No cussing or improper language till after 10 pm! We could keep the radios on at the supper table around the kids! It was great!
You know you’re supposed to say your call sign with a test like that
This was just part of a long conversation I had with the owner, click the link on the video. This link takes you to a long format video, set up perfectly for your phone.
Owe and Questions end with a ?. The start of a sentence that's a question, starts with Are, What, When... etc .
So example.
Are you supposed to say your call sign with a test like that? Yes at the end of your conversation or every 15 min
@@BaaSicStuffbro, you got some serious nerve trying to call out other peoples grammar.😂 classic Redditsexual.
So I guess the comment about ham radio, “is the hobby equivalent of a hall monitor”, was correct? Would that statement be proper, in grammar grandpa?
@@BaaSicStuffYou didn’t end your sentence with a period!!!!!
Now doesn’t that seem pedantic to you?
Holy fuck youre lame 😂@@BaaSicStuff
Since the FCC isnt handing out any more licenses, its becoming an open playing field. 😂
Who said they arent?
@@moneybilla I passed my extra class exam in April 2019. After lots of waiting, many phone calls and them telling me that I just have to wait, etc., I finally gave up. To this day, it still shows pending on their site almost 5 years later.
FRS channels 1-14 are not allowed repeaters and the transmission power is supposed to be low. GMRS channels 15 to 22 are allowed repeaters and transmission power of 50 watts.
What is actually showing you is a Simplex re-transmission system. It's not a true repeater. Because the radio operates on the same frequency. It must receive the signal pause key the transmitter play the signal back. Yes it does repeat the audio. But it does not repeat it to another frequency which would be the definition of a repeater and what the FCC is referring to in the band plan. This device could be used with any power level. Because it is not a modification of the radio or the antenna system it's just a module plugged into the microphone and speaker. That does not make it a violation of any rule other than it is annoying. When people leave these things on and forget that other people do use the service. Until we crack down on the excessive importation of these radios. That come pre-programmed and there's no FCC enforcement of the service. Eventually it will just turn into what citizens band has become or worse. At least with Citizens Band 11 m, it's a little more difficult to get high powered mobile and amplifiers. With the current gmrs system any surplus UHF two-way radio can be returned to work on those frequencies. And unless you're working on something that was made in the 80s it's going to be computer programmable so there's not a whole lot of work to be done. With a click of a few Keys you could have a 110 watt mobile if you wanted it. For the ultimate Rarity in UHF there were some base stations, that put out up to 500 w. They're rare, and one of them are out there probably are in need of repair or are still in operation. But should somebody find one and put it on the are unless the FCC wants to stop then there's nothing that's going to stop them. Also there's a whole lot of companies that make RF power amplifiers including the really wide band dirty nasty ones that will amplify from HF all the way up to almost microwave. There are available really cheap on the internet. Those are also helping destroy the radio service. Assuming everyone followed the rules gmrs would work quite nicely. But since everyone thinks a small little minor violation isn't a problem even though everybody's making little minor violations it becomes a cumulative problem
I have the same setup on Simplex it's technically not a repeater since it operates using one frequency simplex. Not a duplex repeater. Surecom sr-112. is the controller. It's not illegal it can be annoying for some people if all of the gmrs channels are being currently used but typically that's not the case . I have a simplex gmrs repeater and a duplex Yaesu system Fusion. You can use cross ctcs tones so only the replayed audio is heard on all of the other radios but the uplink recorded audio is not heard
I imagine its only illegal if it does not bother someone thats more accurate I think. we can come to agreement on that point I feel. I rather enjoy listening to myself talk so I loike it and the guys a character....link to full video is on the RUclips Short
Who cares? As if the channels are all full from all the people using them... interesting find... but leave him alone
Lets all call the radio police lol.
I have a CB radio in the truck I may upgrade it to a higher power but being in the mountains where there's no cellular service it makes sense but now you can buy CB radios with an amplifier built in that you can literally turn down to four Watts so it's not an issue
I communicate half of the world in the day time with a Simply CB Radio. what I think Those Hams want is a few's People to use Ham Radios Frequencies they don't want the General Population to be hams like them. And to think about all Hams did Came from a CB Radio and Stuff like that. what they Should do is help people out and not been Jealous of anything at all. And if Think that CB Radio People are low Class People and you are High Class you are wrong because I know for Fact it doesn't matter if you on CB or Ham if you are bad down there you are Bad up here to. And alot of Hams Radio operators love to Tells on each other or you interrupt my Station let me Report you to the FCC and so the other one and the other one. CB or Ham Radio Operator Shouldn't do that make the FCC really Happy making money of us Idiots or putting people Jail for no Reason at all just because another asshole tell on another Ashole. We all need to come together and stop all this insane thing Radio is to have fun help each other etc.. we are behaving like Animals Wait I think Animals behave better than us Humans lol
Love this channel
I do not know the GMRS rules. However, you demonstrated all simplex operations. Recording and then transmitting the recorded message in simplex is still simplex.
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Correct. It is a simplex repeater. It is a repeater, but it is simplex. Duplex is simultaneous receive and transmit, necessarily it transmits on a different frequency (or different wire as in the case of ethernet).
"I do not know the GMRS rules."
How about your GMRS calling? Failure to ID is illegal. And, what you are demonstrating is not a repeater. It is called a simplexor, and is not specifically prohibited under 47CFR95, but it isn’t specifically permitted, either.
There is a difference between ‘illegal’ and ‘not legal’.
It’s a repeater just as I stated, on a non repeater channel reserved for only simplex that means radio to radio and unlike gay boy HAM we don’t need to identify after each transmission, But after our series and or after 15 minutes. Lol 😂 you sad HAMs really are a laugh 😂
Had to PIN 📌 your comment so others may laugh at you 😂
Also, the simplexer you speak of is a controller, which is part of the repeater, which is made with two hand held radios. They can be found on Amazon for $50
LATNEX RC-S120 Simplex Repeater Controller - DMR Crossband Repeater and Radio Voice Recorder Connects to Virtually Any UHF, VHF Handheld, Base, Two Way, Amateur Ham or Mobile Radio. 📻 these are popular with jammers also. So in my area this channel is useless and annoying to use.
@@BaaSicStuff you’re kinda dense. Repeaters are specifically full duplex, operating on two frequencies.
But, hey, ping your cerebrum a bit, and you do you, boo. Enjoy the extra click for my response, but I don’t see the laughter…even though you ‘had to pin’ …which still didn’t work.
@@derekedmondson9909 Glad you stated the obvious for us, as far as were concerned its a repeater. You're not a GMRS guy are you
It is a modulation test channel.😊
Looks like they work as good as blocking scammers
"This is an illegal repeater" says the guy who recorded himself on an "illegal repeater" (his words not mine) and didn't call out his call sign on a GMRS frequency.
Me a decade ago looking up baloney call signs and hopping on local repeaters with my paws radio. No one gave a damn, was definitely 90% bald older guys, but they were nice. Unlike nowadays, RC, Nitro, radio all unfortunately suffer from uptight snobs.
That sounds like HAM not GMRS
@@BaaSicStuff given the attitude of these comments I found it irrelevant.
@@satanscilantro4929 peasants, let them eat cake 🍰
@@BaaSicStuff I suppose hehe, it’s definitely a neat and nifty hobby / thing to have knowledge on but man are some people snobby about it.
Haha those simplex repeaters are the best....fcc does not care...
yea Im finding myself visit it when I'm bored, like the wild west
Exactly I have several simplex repeater controllers. That I can turn any radio into a simplex repeater . Ham / GMRS . And before you say anything yes I have a GMRS LICENSE.
Simplex repeaters are perfectly legal. Sit down and do your homework buddy .
Our area ran out of repeater pairs so someone made a repeater using 11 as the input and 4 as the output. Unfortunately for the owner, kids with their call buttons landed on the right tone and jammed it out of existence haha.
OK I didn’t understand anything he said
Hahahah LOVE IT! NOTHING greater than kiddos on their two ways just having a ball!
hell ya!
Saying it makes the channel unusable is a bit of a stretch.
for simplex operations? totally unusable, as a replacement for a local Tinder replacement, usable....does this interest you?
The people in these comments are annoying lol. I have to say, if everything I transmitted was parroted back to me, that would drive me nuts. The communication efficiency with that thing would be absolutely abysmal.
It’s funny though, GMRS users think you take it too seriously, and sad hams are giving you crap for worrying about GMRS because “it’s inferior”. Radio is and always has been a utility. It’s an asset. Do I look down on ham radio hobbyists? No. I don’t care who has what hobby. I have plenty of hobbies. But I absolutely look down on elitist radio hobbyists who think their free time money pit HOBBY classes above the utilitarian service that’s used for getting real work done and contributing to society in a real way. Sad hams provide no worth to society. And then there’s those GMRS users that look down on you for caring about it, but the reason they’re defensive about it is because they’d absolutely do the same thing. If everybody thought that way, there would be no usable radio service.
Just my thoughts.
Well said
No. I'd say it's much more a wee bit misguided. Please understand that I share to teach. Not to be snobby. If you know something that I don't, please share! I want to learn so I can share. I'll give ya all I got! Because somebody was nice enough to share with me!
Gmrs folks on occasion seem a little up tight about their frequencies. And I feel it's up to them to decide how it's run and how they can keep their bands.
I've been a ham for close to 30 years. On fun thing we do is traffic nets. They train us for large scale traffic handling, but they give us a chance to a large group of friends in an organized fashion.
I've seen lots of hams involved in emergency response, message handling for individuals and military families, contests, community events. As I just posted above, foxhunting for search and rescue. One group hunted down powerline transformers and other sources of powerline noise. When fixed it also helped the community.
We have to strive for many of these things just to keep our frequencies from corporate America.
Sorry to say, I can't believe the useless negative crap in the comments.
And it's infecting posts across the net.
Oh! And I use 2nd hand or cheap junk! I have a 180 meter loop (some danged wire that my cousin gave me; 2 second hand mobile antennas and a broken Ringo ranger. In cb I made a dipole (wire). Oh I did buy an antron 99. No high dollar. Not $$$. But I love rf!
@@patvickers8189 Thank you very well written and great advice
That one unlicensed ham 😬
I also am a unlicensed ham but not a sad one
lol the guy should use a repeater channel with a tone, rather than taking an entire channel over....this guy will get caught.
You should NEVER be a sad ham, kid. If you are, remember: cheese is our lord and savior.
@BaSicStuff caught by whay
Now that’s a problem. I didn’t see a problem. It sounded exactly like your voice on the recording.
Where I live we have a huge problem with Commercial Companies using GMRS/FRS Freqs for their operations.
That is why bands should be policed. They refuse to fix their old radios. They just run out and buy FRS or gmrs radios.
is this guy serious?
go to a gym
hang out with some tradesman
be a man.
grms 5
nobody uses gmrs 5
lol 😂 20 years forward deployed US Navy and I make it to the gym 5 days a week. I live in a populated area GMRS as well as every other channel is packed with folks. Lol tradesman I also built my own house….. wrong guy dude. You trying to ride my coat tails 👌🏻
When you’re done playing with your GMRS & CB & FRS toy-bands then maybe you can graduate to ham radio.
🫶🏻
😂 Like you would ever be useful for n real life Frankie
@@panchopistola8298 📻
Ham radio nerds like to call themselves “operators” every chance they get because they have to feel special
@@ethanmcleod8819 Yep, it’s a very toxic niche group …
Kid Charlemagne will never be stopped!
I'd love to get more lessons
One time while testing the radio base stations I started doing my test calls on what I thought would be an empty net. It was on a Tac net that went directly to all officers and dispatch! Fun times
lol
Thanks. I didn't know that....
What I wish is that the high powered simplex and high powered repeater channels had separate frequencies.
In the apocalypse no one can hear you complain....
Guess it's a good time to practice some silent meditation!
z ctcss tone's time to shine
Radio traffic is completely dead, they aren't harming anyone.
We have RIGHTS
I need to know more 😮
Successfully uses GMRS repeater. Immediately calls it unusable. It's a license, not a badge.
What does government overreach sound like?
It's a simple digital voice recorder probably like the old ones radio shack used to sell.
I have two of those, I don't use them, but they could be used on amateur radio frequencies, and yes I'm a licensed Amateur radio operator. You're right it's probably illegal on GMRS. I wonder if some idiot is using an FRS radio to do that, if that's the case it's definitely illegal.
I tore one of those tags off a mattress last year.
Please, I don’t need any problems okay 😂
Take a UV 5R order a speaker. Mike, connect it to your radio obtain a Google Home speaker. Place it next to the radio and put the mic. On top of Google. Then turn on Vox great cheap simplex node.
Meshtastic makes this shit beyond obsolete 🤣
I've no idea what I've just watched lol
what is the name of the antenna toy have in that. I want to update mine but not sure what to get..
thanks
You do realize there are legal repeaters on GMRs channels in Los Angeles right. I thought they were illegal until the city let me know the hard way XD
These radios will be very important in a shtf scenario and at that moment the enforcing governments will most likely be defunct. Thus many are illegally owned and operated
I've never been more lost. Nice
SO much to know, so little time
A "parrot" repeater is only useful for checking your radio receiver and transmitter.
you look like a man that I should listen too .... odd right lol
@@BaaSicStuff I've been around the block once or twice.
@@problemwithauthority I can imagine
Hurricane comes through and wipes out communications for a large area A good Samaritan throws up a GMRS simplex message forwarding system to significantly improve the range of all his neighbors simplex gmrs handhelds. They can communicate with each other, find out which gas stations has gas, which grocery stores have food, connect with any hams monitoring the GMRS channel to report any emergencies to the EOC or get HF messaging services to family members in other states.... yea that's not useful at all. The radio spectrum is for everyone, not just the elitists.
@@minionman6177 You drive the wrong way on the highway, try it ..... FREEDOM !
I like my CB even tho these days not much traffic.
Thats why we have CTCS/DCS tones
Rules are made to be broken or changed right.
Set up CTCSS tones for the repeater radio, then what’s the big deal? Then if anyone tries to talk on GMRS 5, you can just have the TX CTCSS tones set on your radio. If anyone is out there on ch5 your radio will hear them, but they won’t be interfering with the repeater or be in the repeater. If you leave your RX tones of your radio open, you will hear them, then this can be figured out from there.
The problem you’re describing, actually makes 15-22 tough to talk on because around me, most of those are repeaters transmit channels as well.
I’ll have to set tones just to have high power simplex convos, on those channels.
When i was 10 i took a very expensive ham radio that was given to my brother and got on it saying a lot of profanity and using his call sign and 3 old dudes showed up to my house to take the radio back from my brother. It's been 15 years and he still hasn't forgiven me... 😂
Honest question, why does it make it unusable? I know very little on the subject.
When they went narrow band I wanted to set up one. I went through the state repeater board.
Clear as mud, thick mud.
Just a tip from a guy om the outside looking in. It sounds like you're talking to people with little or no radio experience. You may want to dumb it down and drop the jargon
I have no idea what’s going on here, but carry on.
Lighten up Francis
I still don’t understand how it makes the channel unusable. Is the repeater transmitting at a power level above the legal limit? Or is it bleeding into other frequencies different from the original transmission?
there been a few replies that explain it better than I would...but yea illegal as fuuk
You got an affiliate link for amazon or should I just look it up myself?
all my long nd LIVE formats have links....shorts suck for this
All I know is when I was a kid my dad and his family would all Carrie these in NY lmfao not the repeater, but in the 90s that’s how they talked.
What do you do when the fliptometric diametricoid condenser loses symmetry with the synthetic carbofluxer fluorobooster? Do you ever come across that problem?
lol Love that
This is way over my head. But I'd love to learn.
me too, its a fun hobby
Unusable, in what way?
Will it be scrambled or blocked or flooded with chaff and interfering static?
It is a repeater,, and it is simplex ! Channel is still fully usefull bacause the simplex repeater (normally) cant be acessed with out using a PL tone.
More explanation is needed.
They are the ones who goes silent first in an apocalypse situation.