HBO Max Velma review- Terrible. Hateful. Mean-spirited.
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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As a former network exec I have a different perspective on TV shows but Velma absolutely missed the mark.
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Never sacrifice the fans you have for the fans you don't.
Appealing to a phantom audience has never paid off lol
@@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου they pay with phantom money and give phantom good reviews.
@@Ezberron I'm really curious about the money part, there is no way that crap makes money so who's actually funding it 😂
In other words, “A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.”
The problem is, they're specifically trying to slap the fans in the face to create outrage marketing. Millions of fans going online and complaining their IP is ruined. Which generates new people to go look at the IP. This worked a decade ago. But it isn't working anymore. The public caught on to the trick. But the Hollywood idiots in their bubble are always 5-10 years behind. And they won't realize it's failing until they mess up a dozen times.
They fired Henry Cavill. Kept Ezra Miller. And green lighted this show. Congratulations HBO.
I like how that Zaslav guy is turning things around.
congratulations HBO you PLAYED yourself
Actually, Cavill quit because he saw where the show was going and wanted no part of it.
Miller is going to get fired. They are just pretending he has a future so it doesn't impact The Flash's box office.
@@jeffrybassett7374 he's talking about Cavill as Superman
Some people suspect that this was Mindy Kaling's pet project with a self insert, and she had ties to the executive producers, but it could not get green lit until somebody they attached it to an existing property that had a built in audience. That is why the product feels so disjointed, it was probably meant to be something else entirely but it could not be made unless it wore the skin of Scooby Doo so it would be less likely to fail. As a fan of the old classic Scooby Doo series, I think this is a travesty of the original series, and like so many other properties it creates a sequel to something it has clear disdain for.
I guess it could've been worse. Could've been "Little House on the Prairie." Imagine what Kaling would've done with THAT.
Does Mindy Kaling have the ability to not self insert? The Office, Mindy Project, Never Have I Ever... are all just idealized/dramatized versions of herself.
The mystery to me is how someone as seemingly untalented as Mindy Kaling keeps getting work in Hollywood.
Bingo. Money down, that's EXACTLY what probably happened.
That's exactly what it was. This is a big problem right now. People can't get their bullshit green lit, so they latch onto something established like a parasite and turn it into their passion project and this NEVER works out.
I'm a 2D animator that works in cartoons and I recall being told by our mentors that if we ever got to direct or work with a big IP, that we should always pay attention to the fanbase and never bite the hand that feeds the project. Seems like writers, directors and animators these days throw all that out the window
I have worked in the cartoon industry since 2004/5, and followed it all my life studying it closely (sci fi too... BIG scifi fan), and am dismayed at what has happened. Shows I work on are all cynical and bitter. Been three years of solid cynical shows.
Even the cute kid shows are a bit off putting with adult messages in them.
Love my career, love doing what I do... and most of the people around me are great, but somehow bitter, cynical shows get to the top.
Love the animation industry and have been blessed to work with great people, but I would love some solid classic style IP's with just 'let go and be silly' as the centre.
Its as if the people who are the creative decision makers are bitter and cynical...
We see a bit of narcissism in the shows, from the creators. I get the impression that when we are working on a show now, we are working on something that is a projection of someone's personality as much as a product for entertainment.
Yeah the first video game of The Walking Dead was essentially an animated cartoon with different characters but it was faithful to the TWD world and it was a huge success as a result.
@@maarkaus48 yeah it's been the same for me. It used to be exciting working on a new project but now it's like they're all the same with that bitterness and hatred ingrained in with overly politicised heads running it. I had the opportunity to work with amazing guys like, Robert Alvarez and, John Pomeroy and they were probably my best days in the industry. Now there's these new faces everywhere and while they play nice with you, you can tell that they are just horrible people and that filters into their projects you work on.
@@GaigeStorm I hear you.
I am from the end of hand drawn animation crossing into digital, and I have worked with some amazing 'old guard' people like Charlie Bonafachio and some others, at Nelvana and other places. I learned so much just watching them work.
Honestly, I would stand behind a former disney animator and just watch them work... the way they broke down and thought through a shot...
Sometimes they would bring in things they did on Treasure Planet, and my jaw would drop on the floor. To them it was just work. To me it was art.
I borrowed the work and photocopied it, and squirrelled it away. Still have it in a trunk. This particular stuff was a rejected scene of the 'Cyborg' pointing with his arm.
A simple gesture, but with full cloth movement and follow-through... Beautiful, all the energy and thought was right there.
Light hearted people make light hearted work. Bitter angry people do the same.
and at the end of the day what would we rather watch?
Bitter hate burns itself out eventually, as do those who shovel it.
We putout what comes from our hearts and over time its evident.
I try to be one of the good ones, as an almost silent protest.
Keep on truckin, and ride it out...
@@maarkaus48 that story reminds me of a similar situation I had with, John Pomeroy who also worked on Treasure Planet, minus getting some awesome works. He was teaching us how to use our shoulder to do large cursive lines and it was mesmerising just watching him pump it out with ease. I eventually got a hang of the technique and nearly all the great stuff I learned, I got from, John. The way he does X-sheets was really good to learn as well, Tom Bancroft also taught us the same way. Even to this day he still does his animation on paper and while I got into animation when it was fully digital, I learnt the old ways through him and even myself, sometimes go to paper when I don't my graphics tab with me on a day off and the team needs something to do quick scenes.
Original Scooby Doo teached us that the REAL monsters wheren't actual monsters, but regular people that didn't have any standards, that undertone resonated with the audiance, even after so many years.
Great point I didn't make that observation consciously but the influence of that is powerful
Dr. Carl Sagan praised the show for encouraging people to have healthy skepticism towards the paranormal
"teached" ????
@@LadyAxe13 taught
Now the real monsters don't wear masks. They hide behind media puff pieces and make kids cartoon shows.
-Is it difficult to create pitch meeting scenarios?
-No, it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Pitch Meeting scenarios are tight!
wow wow wow.. wow
Pitch Meeting Notaglic Memories.
@@TimoRutanen wow. just. wow.
I hate those videos
I think when a writer lacks an affable, outgoing personality, and they try to write a sassy character, they often confuse sass with meanness.
Yep, none of the characters are likable and I'm not sure I get the point of race swapping the characters if they're going to be so unlikable. I also don't get the point of the gore, the original didn't have any actual deaths in the entire series, it was just people being scared away from a location for plot to happen.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade see, I think she's criticizing race swapping. I see her criticizing progressive tropes a lot here, sort of highlighting the level of hypocrisy that has accumulated in more progressive work
@@clairehann2681 - That might be a pretty good PR response if she had the self-awareness that the show is trash.
It’s straight up meanness 😮
@@clairehann2681 After Marvel executives saw the rough cut of Multiverse of Madness, they had to rewrite the script they had shoved into Raimi's hands in a panic for the inevitable reshoots, because they had wanted Portal Girl to be sassy & sarcastic but instead she came off as annoying & hateful. This is the same reason why Indy 5 is being recut to exclude as much Phoebe Waller-Bridge as possible, because she was so annoying in every one of her scenes.
This was another example of just shitting all over the spirit of the original, then shitting on pretty much everything else.
It was so bad, Disney could have done it
Modern day feminism is not about equality, it's about misandry.
When I logged in to HBO Max yesterday this Velma crap was front and center. Then this morning I get an email that HBO is putting up pricing by 1$. I only joined to watch House of Dragons. Thanks for making the decision so much easier for me with Velma, HBO.
@The Rotten💯 A 👏Men 👏
They realized they'd need to cover some losses XD
Same, was so annoyed seeing that pop up, I mean, they cancelled BATGIRL but approved this…awful…
Hbo went from The Wire and The Sopranos to this shit hahaha
I used to laugh at those old government propaganda adds that went like... You wouldn't download a car would you? Then why would you illegally download music?...
ME: Yes I would download a car if I could and Hollywood doesn't deserve our money .yes given an opportunity, I'll steal from the rich ALL DAY EVERY DAY with no remorse and I'll sleep like a baby doing it.
I would be interested in a "would I have approved this script" type of show. I always appreciate your input as a former network executive.
FOR SURE! ^_^
Yes please make a greenlit series. Add in some research on why shows now got greenlit as I also have no clue what they are thinking and why they make decisions to lose money.
Better yet, a "Here is how I would've reacted to this show in the pitch room if I was hammered on gin & retiring the next day:"
Sounds like it could be an interesting segment. Especially if it was something you would have green lit that ended up bad. I'd love to here the producer reasons why you'd give them a shot.
Yup.
When I saw the first trailer for this, there was no doubt it would be an awful mess.
Considering their vitriolic words towards straight, white men, it was inevitable.
Didn't need to see a trailer, it's a remake in the modern era. It was guaranteed to be a pile of excrement. :)
A heated mess. A mess where heat is applied to it, so what once was a little messy is even messier.
And Sadly, you were right.
Your point about a brand having a built in group of people who don't like it is nothing short brilliant. People need to realize that there are people who aren't going to like your stuff. Chasing after that group by altering the existing brand and alienating the existing audience, is nothing short of psychotic. Great work as always Chato. Cheers and G-d bless.
I feel bad for the animation house where they got this done, because I am certain someone raised their hand at some point asking if this was the real script or not.
at the end of they still need to put food on their plates....
@@Segaton Yeah, but they can't really put it on their resume...imagine a movie or next sereies..."from the animation team who brought you Velva"...Skip!
Guaranteed you're talking Korean sweat shop. I doubt any animator on this had time to think about what they were drawing.
I honestly can't stop watching BECAUSE of how bad the script is. It's like watching someone deconstruct themselves in real time. Like watching a train wreck unfold in slow motion. I'm looking forward to next week's release. I've not laughed so hard in a long time. It's the sheer stupidity of it all ... and that they think they've actually created something good here, that they think they're decent writers, that their plot is "next level". It's kinda sad, really.
@@Diree it's a guilty pleasure.
Wait a minute: They made a Scooby Doo show WITHOUT Scooby Doo? Huh?
He's a male dog, of course he would be excluded. Sexist pig.
Not exactly. They made Big Mouth cosplaying as a Scooby Doo show.
I think you meant "Ruh Roh!"
That's like planning to make an Indiana Jones show, but without Indiana Jones... Disney Cough cough
At this point I realize there's no point in trying to figure out how it is that the blue hairs think because they never make any sense whatsoever
Modern writers cannot write stories about friends, because they have no friends, they have "allies". They cannot write about relationships, romantic or otherwise, because they have none of this, they have "fuck buddies" and "hook-ups". They cannot write stories that have soul, or passion, or emotion, or anything that makes human's human, because they have none of this and they cannot experience it. They are the grey people of our nightmares and fevered dreams, that distort and destroy everything around them that they didn't and couldn't create, they are a cancer.
This. Absolutely true, and the implications for the future of western culture are terrifying.
Wow. What a good way of putting it.
You're 100% correct in your Comment Mr G. It's a much cheaper & nastier world that we have to live in nowadays. 😞Me: 59YO / Male / Australia
Nailed it!
Nicely put 💯👍🏾
Mad props for actually making it through this show, Hanna and Barbarra are rolling in their respective graves
You raise a good point: Never sell your properties unless you maintain total creative control. Joe and Bill would be horrified at this.
Velma has been "I Am Not Starfire"-d.
“Zoinks Scoob!!! Like man, who could have seen this coming?…”
“ I ron’t roe, maybe reverone hehehe” worse Scooby impression, sorry.
I didn't so much read this post as HEAR it. Nice job.
@@peterbrazukas7771 thank you!
Rutroh
You nailed it. There are two questions a producer should ask when delving into an existing franchise: "What was its appeal?" and "What were the barriers to entry?" Obviously, keep the stuff people liked and try to add stuff to make it more accessible. I honestly don't understand why today's Hollywood doesn't get it (looking at you, Live Action Cowboy Bebop...)
Yep, I do think that reconsidering the race of the characters is reasonable. I mean in the late '60s when the original was being created you didn't have as much freedom to choose different options other than white if you wanted a show that would appeal to the mostly white folks that had the money advertisers were after.
But, to make them so horrible and make the ones that weren't race swapped even worse was a massive mistake that the studio execs should have seen coming.
Scooby isn’t in it because they couldn’t figure out a way to use the character for propagandist purposes.
These people are evil while also uncreative and dumb.
I was a kid when the original Scooby came out. As cartoons went back then, it was ok. It was funny and silly and had some slightly scary scenes that would all turn out to be from mundane causes. Scooby was the main character and that was fun. No Scooby, no fun.
By the time I was born, Scrappy-Doo had already taken over and the adults had pretty much been pushed out.
A new segment called Green Light, Red Light where you rate newly released shows by looking only at the first episode (Proxy for the Pilot) and only from the Network Exec viewpoint. It would be nice to see considerations for production values, direction and script. It would be nice to see if it would pass your muster.
This trend of taking a franchise that people love and making it something spiteful and awful has been in trial for years now. I can’t think of a single instance where it’s been more successful than the original. So how much longer do we have to endure this trend before producers and creators start to realise that it’s not a good idea?
Until they're down off their high horse, or when the money runs dry.
Until people start throwing actual rotten tomatoes at them like in cartoons.
until people can publicly speak negatively about woke products and call it out for what it is. As it stands now, I suspect most people in Hollywood are afraid of being cancelled so they don't dare speak against anything the wokerati come up with. Because yeah, they need a paycheck.
@@Plisken65 🤣🤣🤣
They don't care about the money.
It's all about "The Message".
Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.
Fully expect the woke producers and grifters to double down on slandering Velma critics as "racist misogynist etc-phobes."
I'm sure they've already started, and were probably saying this stuff before the show even debuted. But Velma had already been race-swapped to be Chinese in a previous iteration. I think there was a Hispanic Velma, too, at one point. But those versions were still made for kids and weren't full of sex and violence, so there wasn't as much backlash.
And lo and behold...
Don't know. Something tells me they're the racists, but I just can't seem to put my finger on it.
Default strategy
Someone has declared it transphobic already…
It seems that they went out of their way to crap all over the premise of the show as well as the original characters. What I don't get is how anyone thought this would work? Isn't there anyone with functing brain cells overseeing productions before they are pooped out like this?
They all live inside the same insular little bubble with the same snarky views that look down on anything normal and beloved by the masses. They can't conceive that this garbage will be seen as anything but cool and progressive because it takes a dump on the past. You can anticipate claims that anyone that doesn't like this is obviously a white supremacist, misogynist, anti-LGBQ troll incel. Because these goons have actually convinced themselves that this nonsense excuse is true. And they will cling to it until reality finally crashes in and washes them away.
no
If thare are some things are so far in production you can't pull. Its a case of them biting the bullet and juat getting what money they can from it
I'm guessing money laundering. Why else would you produce something so foul that it won't be making any real money?
This is spot on. I've seen too many "re-imaginings" that clearly lacked any respect for the source material and new movies that don't respect the genre and concepts of world building and consistency.
The answer as to why these people want to piss off modern fans is simple. These fanfiction writers have nothing creative to offer. They want to self insert themselves, ruin the originality, and bait the die hard fans into bad reviews so the writers can blame isms and cities on the fans and look like victims. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Also, awesome you brought up Mask of the Phantasm. That movie contains one of the greatest moments in cartoon history: The Birth of Batman.
This series is the kind of thing that would be made as a joke 10-20 years ago "Look at this edgy version of a wholesome family favorite, all the sex, all the swearing and gore baaaby!" I can almost picture this being a Stiller show skit.
We already have a show like that, it's called Robot Chicken. But it mostly plays as a parody of those shows.
It really feels like a Tarantino/Rodriguez "mock trailer"
Except on *Robot Chicken,* when a joke stops being funny, they move onto the next one. This just goes on and on and on, and never actually starts being funny.
It’s like somebody thought of an idea that would’ve been funny if it were a *MADtv* sketch when the movie came out, and they said “let’s make that a series.“
Basically if it was the 90s she'd have a skateboard and say 'cowabunga' a lot.
I would imagine it would be easier and less embarrassing for the producers to just throw their money in a fire.
Agreed! Aren't these shows just Tax write-offs?🤑
@@Plisken65 dont start with that nonsense
Can't believe how shafted Scooby-Doo was with all this. He and Shaggy should sue.
🤔 My money is on Putin and I think he would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for that pesky Bear. 😏👍
My pitch would be, Velma is a special forensic agent investigating paranormal crime scenes. She would individually contact the rest of the team throughout the season to help her understand clues based on their adult persona. To tie it all up, introduce a clairvoyant connection to Scooby to the members of the gang that helps in figuring out the crime. Make it funny by having the connections be misleading until the end. They would be then be brought together in the ending monologue, like the reveal in the original, but in the narrated writing of the case report.
That’s a show I would love to see.
Narcissistic psychopaths only ever write themselves as any character and the character is always a difficult, asocial, angry psychopath
"Would I have green lit and why" would be an incredible series.
Please do consider it!
They're destroying everything we love
The real entertainment is watching networks throw themselves under the bus.
People need to understand, hollyweird is not failing to make successful and enjoyable shows, they are purposely succeeding in destroying the things we loved
Not really all the original stuff still exisits
Gen Xers and millennials are the most nostalgic generations. Why you may ask?
Many of them grew up in the '80s and '90s when TV shows and movies were actually good.
Before all this silly rubbish that the guy in the video is talking about invaded the media.
@@cryptodino3roberts712 Exactly, the original Hannah barbera cartoons are still there. They have adult humour, without gore or raunchy mean spirited cynical dialogue.
Big yes to the "would I have greenlit it" section of our regular programming.
Robot Chicken cornered the market on adult deconstructions of Scooby Doo 20 years ago.
Why do they have to take old stuff and debase it? Why don't they just make up their own story? Probably because they are bereft of creativity and imagination.
“WHO is this show for?’ Is another question i heard a lot.
The initial pitch of degrading Fred was probably what got it Green Lit IMMEDIATELY.
The rest of it was likely written from the writer Woke “Dream Board”, where they took everything that earn them Points, and just slapped it on the rest of the script!
Nostalgia for old content never felt so good 👌🏼
the “Venture brothers” did an episode that deconstructed Scooby Doo in a brilliant way. Look it up if you want great parody.
R.I.P. Venture Brothers. They just took way, way too long in between seasons.
@@jmchez my favorite adult toon show
If these writers insist on reimagining legacy characters, just create new characters, do the work of world building, create fascinating back stories, give the characters individual motivations...but Hollywood isn't ready for that conversation.
This is what happens when you give Scooby Dumb a laptop to write a screenplay.
I love the idea of a recurring "Would I have greenlit this?" video feature. Even for shows I wouldn't personally be interested in, it's interesting to hear what the redeeming qualities (or lack thereof) might have been from the perspective of someone who just wants the show to be successful, regardless of how that is achieved.
The best version of the Scooby Doo crew was done in The Venture Brothers.
Tick creator Ben Edlund was guest writing that one
The different tone is what was wrong with multiple life action cartoon adaptations. Look at Faith the Winx saga, being all dark and edgy, while fashion and a lot of bright colors were iconic for that show. If they wanted it to be dark and gloomy, they should have tried W.I.T.C.H.
Same for Death Note. The appeal of Death Note was the cat and mice game between 2 genius boys. Netflix had none of the tension and mystery, but put in a lot of gore and action.
The only things the creators, producers and HBO appreciated about the existing property was it's brand recognition, because it's clear from how none of the characters look like they originally did outside some slight clothing references, behave like they did or even interact with each other the way they did that they couldn't care less about anything actually related to the original IP.
Thanks for throwing some love towards Mask of the Phantasm. For me, it's a perfect movie and prospective film makers could learn a lot from it.
I remember watching reruns of the original Scooby Doo show on TV at night while trying to asleep. I remember me and my siblings loving every minute of both live-action films. But this? This isn’t Scooby-Doo. This is worse than cancer.
I strongly urge people to begin re-investing in physical media. At the same time that they're doing this, they're quietly erasing, editing, and re-mastering legacy properties into oblivion. Save what you can on DVD or other formats.
I was never a Scooby Doo superfan, but I watched it back when it was a Saturday morning cartoon. Back when all we had was 3 networks in the US, and Saturday morning was glorious with the cartoons. I may also have watched reruns on a UHF station in the afternoons. It was clearly a kids show, and that is how I remember it. This show pisses me off big time.
I totally get your perspective from a network executive.
I vote yes for a "greenlight or not" series of videos. That would be entertaining and educational at the same time.
Too many man/woman/nb-children around without any ounce of taste or good judgement lurking around. They know theyll eat up any IP you present them because thats how they define their personalities. Its sad and pathetic, and in a sense a very predatory behaviour from TV execs.
@@Ramekink kids are a bit smarter than you think . teens even more so
I love your videos - thanks for doing them! I think we can learn about what makes this show tick by just paying attention to pop culture. Jerrod Carmichael, the recent host of the Golden Globes was widely criticized for not being funny all over social media. The defense that I've seen, from Black Americans, has been that Carmichael was funny because his jokes made white people uncomfortable. My theory is that these shows like she hulk and Velma deliberately try to target white and old Americans to make them uncomfortable and angry about the change(s). It's like being addicted to negativity - the more negative your reaction, the more satisfied they (the creators) are. It also helps to support victimhood. it's a sickness. The goal was never to make a show that would be liked and appreciated by old fans of the franchise - exactly the opposite.
Old white Americans have a victim mentality, they're "uncomfortable and angry" about bad TV shows lol... Mainstream media is garbage, what's new...
I think Battlestar Galactica is the ultimate example of deviation from the original whilst being successful. The managed it because it was so damned good and it wasn't made for "modern audiences"
And it was diverse 😅 They even gender swapped Starbuck.
Can get away with it because the original BG really wasn't that good. This is what concerns me about the Babylon 5 reboot - the original is really good. They did play a bit with the continuity adopting some of the original series as canon (prior conflict, design of the traditional Cylons, the construction of the spacecraft). I have to admit I never watched a lot of the original BG so it might have been better than I thought.
The critical difference is that BSG reboot was made by people that LIKED the original, or at least the outlines of the story and the characters, even if they thought it was low budget and cheesy. These people, and too many others, didn't like the original IP, knew that their crap couldn't be green lighted on its own, so they attached it to an existing IP simply to get it made.
Star Trek TNG did a pretty decent job at a successful reboot too.
@@TimoRutanen I guess it was commercially successful but IMO it was tree hugger sewage. The original was quite happy to "run the gun boat up the river and shoot shit out of the natives", in TNG they were more likely to attend marriage counseling sessions with them.
I like the idea of "Would I Have Greenlit or Not" as long as you explain why
"Would I have Greenlit?" would be a GREAT idea. I'd watch every episode.
YES! I'd love a mini series for you about whether you'd greenlight certain shows and give your reasoning why.
Actively pissing off existing customers isn't limited to Hollywood. Gillette did something similar with their "A Best a Man Can Be" ad. That didn't work out well for them either. The most charitable interpretation is that it is outrage marketing run amok.
“I would have greenlit or not” sounds awesome. I would 100% watch it
On your upcoming "Green Lit Or Not" series, you should do it in the style of 300, kicking rejected franchises into the pit of doom.
My 10 year-old granddaughter has watched the original Scooby- Doo shows on DVDs since she was 5. After watching a single episode of the "new" Velma she said the show is not Scooby-Doo and it's stupid. Apparently, kids are smarter than lame show runners and woke writers these days. To quote Tolkien "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made." This quote seems to sum up the modern screen writers. They cater to the woke mob, which only represents a small, yet boisterously loud, minority of people.
As a Former Network executive what do you think about the theory that this show was not originally meant to be Scooby Doo and that they just attached the IP to it to get it made?
All the executives and writers of all these "modern audience" shows are screaming about their unresolved personal issues. They need counseling ASAP. Especially the writer of she-hulk... she clearly had her heart broken many times by men.
I never dreamed that Scooby-doo would have a show dedicated to legitimate hate. Zoinks...
My curiosity made me give this show a chance without immediately hating on it(I watched it secondhand). There was one joke that I thought they nailed with Norville looking at a computer about weed and I thought he said something about how he was researching how weed isn't so bad if used correctly, and I had to rewind it to make sure because it was a genuine laugh they got out of me and I wanted to make sure the show earned it, but I was sadly mistaken when it was an article about how weed was bad and what Norville said was something about him simping over Velma instead. The show almost had me with a real joke, but was actually just doubling down on the one thing people hated about Shaggy in the mystery incorporated show, with his forced simping over velma when she clearly didn't show the affection back. All well, I'll still give this show a full shot, but wouldn't be surprised if it gets canceled mid season and it gets pulled from the service entirely (that would give the show a mercy actually)
Hard to imagine a better example of how joyless and cynical so much entertainment has become.
"Would I green light?" Is definitely worth including in your reviews/critiques.
I like the old originals, got the DVD collection. Yes as you say the are not very complex or intelligent, story and characters wise. But they are a fun time. And that is all that matters.
Same reason I also got a lot more dvd boxes with older series. They knew how to make a series that basically did just fine and worked. And that is all we needed.
Love your insight, Paul. Thank you for sharing, as always. We are all better informed with your work, sir.
Chato, please do a a “Green Lit” series. Bless your soul, good sir and thank you for your insight.
My theory is this script existed as a non-Scooby Doo project, and it was find/replaced into a “Scooby Doo” project. Which explains lack of Dog.
I found it so much funnier that all the adults that they were probably hoping to target, went to the show Bluey instead. A cartoon that was targeted towards family and kids.
People love wholesome and relatable content. Not whatever tf Velma was
"I'm sure Oberlin College along with teaching a course on feminist glaciation also must have one on intersectional Scooby-Doo. "
This line has better writing than all of Velma and a better joke too!
It's a death cry of pain, bitterness and hate for the world, a last blind stab at everything detested by the writers as they desperately roll around to douse their flaming careers, still spitting through cracked lips and wailing...
"...before we go....what else can we burn?"
Original Velma was gay and dorky, kinda adorable in how she yearned for Daphne's attention and even had some voyeuristic moments. The new one is just a psychopath.
Yes you should absolutely have a "Would I greenlit this show". You could cover great shows that got canceled as well as shows that maybe shouldn't have been greenlit.
Thanks again for giving us your professional opinion. Watching yours and Critical Drinker's reviews helps remind me that the oldies are definately the goodies, especially with all the garbage over the last 10+ years. I've occasionally watched a newer movie/show but only if the reviews are good. There is just so much that has been so much produced the last 90 years for movies/T.V. and games there's over 30+ years so I have plenty of enjoy while Hollywood/Disney/Cable and the AAA Games burn themselves down to the ground over this Social Justice B.S. Can't wait to see what springs up out of the ashes though! Anyway thanks for taking the bullet for many of us, so to speak, and watching this mess! Who knows you might stumble upon a gem in all of this sh##, so you never know! Bsy too!
Ok, we ALL know that Rotten Tomatoes' critiques have embrassed "the message". Thus, normally, I only take into consideration the audience score, even if someone told me lately that even that score is tweaked as to promote "the message". However, seeing the 50% from the critiques and the 8% from the audience score... DAMN! This might be the WORST woke show wokeness ever regurgitated! Either that, or the staff at RT took antiparasitic pills and it purged wokeness from them!
Always said that what we get from Hollywoke today, is a Blackspoitation 2.0. But maybe Blackspoitation was better...
Maybe the people running the show forgot to pay RT ?
@@TimoRutanen Pretty sure that RT's crew doesn't do it for the moneyz but for the cause. Like the whole Hollywoke.
I like the Marketing 101 lesson you threw in there. Whether one is selling corn flakes or a tv show, the basic principles are the same. Love your channel!
“IT’S MEDDLING SEASON” - Rare instance of self awareness?
I loved Batman MoP as a kid. Loved how it tied in to the cartoon and was kind of like the official Batman year one for the cartoon. When he finally put on the mask and turned to Alfred, it gave me goosebumps! Sadly today's productions are a joke and only a few seem to be worth watching.
I believe these people make these shows this way because they hate themselves and just want everyone else to feel as bad as they do.
"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real things of its own" - J.R.R. Tolkein
It's like we are being forced to participate in other people's fanfics!
Thank you for speaking the truth, and exposing the issues that have been very obviously thrust into the “scooby-doo” universe over the past few years. I have grown up with the gang and their mystery solving, and the appeal of them is that they are lighthearted, fun and family friendly. Even the live action movies, while made for a slightly older audience than the cartoons, was still easy viewing because entertainment was prioritised, compared to the ultra-progressive and extremely distasteful themes and characterisations that are promoted in the modern “child friendly” scooby related shows. All audiences want are fun and entertaining stories that also stay true to the hearts and minds of the original characters and ethos of the show when it was designed all those decades ago.
Thank you for this very necessary review, and the current executives would do well to follow your advice!
Great Review! You're 100% correct with the points you make of this show!
Even at my most generous, I'd still say that the premise of "adult take on an all-ages property" has been done....alot. Hell, half of Williams Street's catalog alone has done it numerous times (Robot Chicken especially).
This is the first of your videos that I've ever seen. When you asked "Why would you want to piss off the existing audience?", I immediately subscribed.
Star Trek
Star Wars
Muppets
Lord of the Rings
Disney
Et cetera...
Another IP bites the dust.
This is why I've spent the last couple of years buying optical media versions of my favorite IPs, and will continue to do so. Because there's virtually nothing new coming out of Hollywood that's either good, entertaining, family friendly, fun, escapist, or otherwise a good watch.
Jack Black's taint sweat could create something that has more class, fun, artistic capacity, intellectual stimulation, sophistication and watchability than the dreck being pumped out these days.
Once again, thank you for watching this so we do not have to. Watched Scooby as a kid, tried 5 minutes of this, WE ARE OUT! not the closet, watching this show.ever. good luck continuing making tv and film for a 5% target audience, and killing off popular characters mistaking this for „grittiness“, and thinking disappointing audiences expectations is good writing. Thanks again Chato also for your utterly acute and logical dissection of it all.
Hostile IP Takeover Strategy:
1. Desecrate franchise.
2. ???
3. Profit!
They cancelled Westworld to pay for something like this??
The laughing skeleton head inside the astronaut suit in the original show's episode 'Spooky Space Kook' freaked me out as a little kid. Might still be a little freaked out by it, lol. Seems to me like HBO Max might have some aging 'edgy boys' who look at too much hentai greenlighting this stuff.
I love the space kook!! That spooky noise he made is still one of my all time favorite sound effects. It was goofy, yet unsettling, a perfect combo!
As soon as you mentioned my memories triggered. Very scary AND fascinating as a little kid, even if the spacesuit made him look like a Sontaran from Dr. Who.
I picture that right now thousands of unsuspecting parents who grew up on Scooby-Doo are placing their kids in front of Velma so that they can experience the magic of Scooby-Doo that they grew up on. Fast forward about ten minutes, thousands of parents start petitioning to have HBO-Max producers hung from the ceiling for the trash their kids just watched. Going to be an interesting day. I hope this prediction comes true.
I'm pretty sure no parent who was a fan of the original scooby doo series would plant their kids in front of the TV to watch this mess. We all knew what it was and is.
@@hulkjelly6876 I agree. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a few parents that just didn't know. Either way, I will very much enjoy it if an ultra-right etc., etc., went on the warpath over this shit-show.
Hollywood has a twisted version of the Midas touch: everything turns to crap.
I find Mindy's infatuation with teen sexuality a bit disturbing
This is my first video with you. I'm a life-long fan of Scooby. It's one of the shows I took with me into my adulthood and show my baby cousins.
Your rundown of this show is a breath of fresh air. It's nice to hear that there's still people out there in (or formerly in) the industry that look at the concept and objectively say, "What the hell where you thinking when you pitched?"
I don't think they saw "equity."
Equity doesn't equal mean-spirited remakes of characters that turn them into cringey losers.