That's a good partner. My wife is pushing me to finally finish mine this year. It went into paint last week and I have everything else done and ready except the motor.
I saw a factory supercharged gt 350 back in 90. It was in Illinois, roselle dealership show, red, the guy had a ton of paperwork backing it up, the setup looked exactly like the car in the video. I remember it very clearly because it was the first time I saw a supercharger mounted low like that (i had only seen roots style up top before), I was in my mid teens at the time. I have talked about that car before and I was mostly told it had to be a fake or something, thanks for the video, it lets me know I wasn't hallucinating the entire thing.
Gotta love the stories (and sometimes, mysteries in this case) surrounding cool old cars, eh? To me, it's more what keeps me in the hobby than anything else at this stage of life. Thanks as always Jerry! - Ed on the Ridge
This is better than the last one about getting my computer baggage checked on Southwest Airlines, although I thought computer people would like to see this.
If a work order came up and someone went to put the paxton on , a quick glance at the only other lime gold cars number and 2293 could look like 2213 and it was the same color, so someone got 2213 without the paxton ,that is documented and perhaps 2293 owner got a surprise with his Hone-o-drive GT350??? .Also has anybody ever seen a 67 with a spoiler on the front like this one? I have never seen another besides Eleanor clones......Absolutely Awesome video Jerry keep up the great work. Jim from Canada
Makes sense, same color car, same day of production. Another good observation on the spoiler. We looked at the spoiler and could not figure out the heritage.
The thing that makes the most sense is that 2293 was in production status on that date, and as 2213 was already completed, lends credence to the typo theory.
@@blkcoupequattro nobody knows.. but it fits perfect and have never seen another so we are trying to find any info on it also....we will take a good look for any stamping or part numbers in the near future and will post any news
In 1984 there was a red GT500KR convertible for sale at the Darrel Starbird car show for $8500 in excellent condition. My dad was thinking about buying. I have regretted him not buying it for 40 years and counting.
I think that the combination of the overdrive and supercharger is an indication that this could be a genuine car. Adding just a supercharger isn't that hard, but adding an overdrive gearbox is a bit more complicated since it has to fit both to the main gearbox and a shortened driveshaft. The rear axle gear ratio might also tell if this had the proper overdrive gearbox or if it was a later change, however that depends on if the rear axle gear ratio is different from the stock gear ratio. An overdrive can allow for a lower gear ratio at the rear axle for better acceleration and then the overdrive compensates for the lower gear ratio in the rear axle. I did an overdrive gearbox change on a mid 60's Volvo once, and the gearbox interface was totally different from the standard interface there, so even though not the same brand the principle is the same and the headaches involved are similar.
If the list says, 2213 is suppose to have a super charger and it's also lime green........and the real car never had one.....and 2293 is lime green and has a super charger and isn't on the list.........It's got to be a typographical error. I'd say it's pretty sure a Super Charged car from the factory.
OR or being that it is the 60's , and a lot of weed was smoked during those times.... They put the Super charger on the wrong car... meaning it was ment for 2213 but got put on 2293.. Work shop error not typographical hahahaha! 😉
@@jarleron4788something like that happened with the mystic cobra, was supposed to be like an even number of them made but the last one got painted black on accident
Yes!!! The guy wasn't pushy or stating his opinions as the only possible outcome. I hope he can prove the car is what he thinks. That'd be great for him.
It's an interesting theory. The hole on the firewall appears to be cut differently & oversize compared to the documented cars. It's possible it was chopped or snipped open for ease of removal but It kind of just adds to the mystery. My gut tells me it's a "day 2" mod but ya never know.
Jerry - another great car & great story! Hopefully crowd-sourcing will garner some information! Maybe Brian will chime in with some of his '67 expertise. I'll be following this video.
@@thewriter2549 Yes for sure! For me, the bottom line if we never get another piece of information on 2293.... they found a great car and had the means & opportunity own a piece of 1960's Ford Mustang - Shelby history. Not playing down the importance of determining the Paxton's origin, SA or owner installed, but It has provenance as a real Shelby GT350, everything else is just gravy!
The nastiness of that cutout makes it much more likely it was done by the factory, people who bought those cars usually loved them and would have done a better job.
I was thinking the exact opposite lol. Maybe someone bought the car off of a used car lot, him and his buddies added the super charger with a torch and some beers. The cut out on the documented sc car looks much better. It'd be interesting to see some other documented sc cutouts. I hope owner can find proof it is factory sc car.
Dang, this thing is frickin sweet. I 100% believe the car came from Shelby with the Hone-O-Drive and Paxton supercharger and that 2213 was indeed a typo. I like the patina but you could easily justify restoring it...can't lose either way on this unicorn.
I saw a couple of these with the factory superchargers at the Ford museum located in the Larry H Miller motor sports park. They also has a couple original GT-40's that finished on the podium during the historic LaMans victories.
Jerry. We found this car at a local estate auction company and put the word out to several Shelby collectors. I have a bunch of pictures from that day since we were asked to do an inspection on it by one of those collectors prior to the sale. We wondered where the car ended up.
@@jbarsaloux8243 No, no mention of any other parts. The employee who opened up the car for us then took us to the back lot where they kept other cars from the same consigner. He never mentioned anything about any additional parts going with it or also being for sale, so I don't know for sure if there were any. Side note: the same seller also sold at a later date a really decent survivor original 1968 Cougar "S" Code. Came from Denver originally. We were told the cars were stored outside in a backyard in Phoenix with the hood up and windows down for around 20 years or so - hence the rough shape it's in (though thanks to dry Phoenix, it could have been much worse). It and the Cougar both had tons of leaves and debris throughout. They didn't really know any more than that. The auction house folks are very nice and run a great business, but they really didn't know what this car was and were surprised by the attention it got.
@@thewriter2549 Hi Jerry - this is Tom and Dana by the way - old car pals from Colorado now in Phoenix. Basically, all the same things you have now seen. We took detailed photos for another Shelby collector in California who was also bidding but dropped out after it got to a point where it didn't make sense with the obvious expense of a future restoration. The body is pretty solid considering the age and care over the years, but we didn't get to see/hear it run or drive it - obviously and unfortunately!
I wonder if the Paxton stamp on the bracket would be exactly the same look, location ect. as the aftermarket Paxton bracket? Did the original owner get the aftermarket supercharger and hone and when the seal went and brought it back to the dealer the automatically thought it was a Shelby installed supercharger and hone? That why Shelby paid the warranty?
I’m not a Ford guy myself, but I would fall over backwards if I found this in the garage or a barn and someone wanted to sell it to me for less than $25,000…
Very interesting story and look forward to more facts piling up on it's pedigree. I want to find it difficult that a typo is the solution, makes it a little too easy to explain away so I'll trust in the hard work and finding just the right people who know - Yeah, that front support hole looked like one hell of a butchered up hack that a little more investigation could help answer. So a car sells at this auction, with a Paxton bracket, no blower - But in the same auction is a replacement NIB Paxton with a SA number on it....I imagine what Columbo would be thinking weighing up all this evidence~ that "Oh, just one more thing"... is right around the corner.
I bought a 93 cobra that had a Paxton SN92. Its the same as the SN60 that the Shelby's came with except some of the materials were changed to make it last a little longer. Its a very high maintenance unit. I had Craig Connoly at Paradise wheel rebuild mine. For what they are they make good power and spool up quick but they get so hot. Even with the Paxton oil cooler its still hot. Its a planetary drive that works off friction. Almost like a Centrifugal clutch. It's a self contained unit with no drain plug. New they came with what looked like a turkey baster with a brake line attached and that's what was used to remove the fluid. I jerry rigged an Evac pump with a brake line attached to remove the fluid. Far from ideal. I changed the oil every 1,500 miles. Good luck with your endeavor and i hope it all works out for you. That black Paxton you have is the exact same color that they used on the few Avanti R2 that came with a Paxton SN60.
Sooo..where is that emoji of that guy at the movies eating popcorn ? I have to say the sound of that car pulling in the garage alone put a hugh smile on my face !!
I personally have seen numerous (over 10) vehicle titles with WRONG VIN numbers. I've also seen numerous vehicle repair invoices with the wrong year or wrong VIN. If a dealership and a state run DMV office can both make errors in data entry, then CERTAINLY a manufacturer can make a single digit VIN/Serial# mistake on their paperwork. If everything else says the man is right, and that one manufacturer shows a car with a single digit difference out of 2 possible cars, then I'm going to believe this guy is right. GT-350 Supercharged from Shelby. WOW.
That overdrive unit was shocking to see-- OMG! Never, ever saw one of those. Have no knowledge of such a thing on a Shelby. But focusing mostly on the car itself. The history ,condition, how acquired , paperwork, etc.
What a historic great muscle car!! awesome find! May wanna run it by Mr. Marty and get that documentation….cool cars !!!Mustangs …. They’re Tuff…… The Outsiders.
Great video and sharp car. Im thinking he has a real supercharged Shelby. I agree why would Shelby pay for the axle seal if he wasnt working on and around the rearend. I also believe that rough cut is a prototype for the air inlet maybe done early production. Either way i would use that nos supercharger on that car. I love the patina
Gotham's of New York are distant relatives of mine. Although, I'm not sure if it's my family that owns the dealership this came from. As I don't know any of them. Side note: The Gothams used to own 160 acres of Manhattan, including where the NY Stock Exchange sits. It was taken from them through imminent domain (along with proprty belonging to family members of Prince Edwards). and given to an organization that immediately divided it and resold it for way more than it was worth when they took it. The Gotham and Edwards families both got a settlement of a little over $1 million, but I think that was for both families to split.
Get in touch with Dennis Collins. (From the coffee walk you tube channel) He has one of the other supercharged GT350’s. The part numbers and comparison might help.
I am surprised that it is not limited slip but maybe the limited slip clutch is simply worn out. 5:18 in the video. I do believe that it was Paxton equipped from Shelby though. The story gives a good account for that belief. Wow, what a great find.
Car had 56xx miles when the axle seal was done, so Hone-O-Drive was on there from day one and Shelby paid the bill on the related repair. HOD makes the car rarer than a Paxton, even. If the original owner wanted the OD unit, ostensibly because of high numerical gears, why wouldn't he want the Paxton at the same time, as well?
The rear end would have been re geared which could explain the seal warranty. People tend to put on blinders when they want an outcome to go a certain direction.
That was interesting & a fun experience. I once visited Fred Deming's home in Phx, Az & saw alot of the prototype parts, along with several gt500kr's & a T-5 car. I wish I had a clue then, what I was looking at!! He even had a Starsky / Hutch car. Sold for next to nothing, when Fred passed away. Miss than man / legend!
Welcome Darrell and Sheila (spelling on both?) to not only the wonderful world of Shelby American (see you and car at SAAC 50?) but also the crazy and mysterious world of 1967 Shelbys!
Kevin Marti is the one who sells the window stickers and has all the info. This one is weird, in that the HON and blower make the 350 more expensive than a GT500.
Common practice back in the day was. I work for a Pontiac dealer in Washington DC Blank Pontiac. I was schooled GM School for auto Transmissions. Back then car warranties were handled haphazardly to say the least. Can't tell you how many Transmissions were rebuilt under warranty and I never saw the car. Service manager told me take some old parts for warranty so when the warranty manager comes around you can see those parts and sometimes several times. My guess is that's supercharger was used in the same way they knew the car did not have miles on it as it was going to be brand new coming down the assembly line. So on the warranty tag you put enough miles to make it believable and that you were not going to get tripped up for the same problems slipping on shifts. My guess is that's how it came up with a Paxton Supercharger new. Done all the time back in the day LOL
It will be very interesting to see what that car appraises at, given it seems as though it could be a one of one. I know there were some really rare ones in 67' and 68'.
Fred had 2 gt500kr convertibles, 2 gt500kr coupes & a Perrywinkelt5. A 79 f350 & a starsky & hutch car. Plus he had a mustang performance shop at the time. He had so many prototype nascar parts that filled an entire garage. He would know this car if he was still alive. Great Memories! TY!
@@kylesaad5647 They did not make Shelby coupes with the exception of the 2 Experimental ones owned by Craig Jackson (The Green Hornet & Little Red) ….d9d you mean Fastbacks?
Bill Kolb Jr (The Man who moved Muscle) was the sales Manager at Gotham Ford from 1966-1969 after Iacoca arranged to have him transferred from Larson Ford to Gotham, he sold more Shelby's than anyone in the country. He became the sale manager for Hory Chevrolet in 1970-1975 - where he sold 30 Black Corvettes in 1973. My brother owns one of the vettes and talked to Bill - he is in a retirement home in AZ.
This is so good. I have owned at least 25 classic cars in the past. Did complete restos on some and just cosmetics on others. I've helped so many people with cars etc. I'm soooooo overdue to stumble upon a PURE classic. I'm due. Just keep pushing. It will be a Boss or a Hemi car. Can't wait!
I once bought a lime green VW golf (rabbit) . It was a run of 20 right hand drive models in the UK . Unfortunately the chassis number ended in 21 on the registration document instead of the 20 on the chassis plate . I had a police man friend run the document number and it came up as a white car in a nearby town , we went to the owners house and explained what the issue was , his document had the same vin number, his car had a vin number ending in 21 . So it was a typo of someone either at the dealership when registering the car or DVLA making a mistake. (My vin did not come up as any car on the UK database) After a lot of hassle convincing DVLA it was just a clerical error the car was inspected and a new V5 registration document issued . I sold it and the new owner promptly crashed it into a lorry😂 What a lot of work for the car to last less than 2 weeks on the road. It ended up at a scrap yard in broxburn just next to the fence where it stood out like a sore thumb in it's lime green paintwork slowly being stripped for all it's useable parts .
Noooooooooooooooooooo ! Call me first ! I’ll make a rotisserie restoration happen and get that car back to better than new condition ! That’s too rare to destroy with a conversion to an EV ! Restoration at this point ! It’s going to take a few years so don’t wait either !
I know there is a 66 gt350 that I worked on in the nineties that isn't a real Shelby. The original was snuck out by a plumber and put sideways in to a telephone pole. The shop I worked at took another shell and vin swapped it , did a good job , the only tell was some of the spotwelds looked to nice in the rear . All off the books to preserve the value of the car . Now if you bought a 66 gt350 Shelby blue and white out of the Houston area , that might be your car .
Awesome find! I have a hard time thinking that the coincidences don’t add up as he’s concluded. Also 0 is after the 9 on a keyboard and would be the obvious slip of thumb if mistyped
His comment about not knowing if the auctioned supercharger came from the same estate as the car makes no sense. Every auctioned item has a Lot number. The auction house must have a detailed index of every item and where it came from /amount sold for accounting purposes. Should be a no-brainer to figure out.
seems like the speedometer was replaced having the difference in mileage. my base 67 bounces between 5 and 85 while my phone app says 25. hence I need a new speedometer.
The literature from Hone-O-Drive shows a good use, which we revealed in the video. That was to make it easier to drive a Shelby with digger rear end gears home from the drag strip.
I'm more impressed with the fact that his WIFE told him to purchase the car.
A good woman is hard to find ! She’s a keeper for sure !
She wanted to get him out of the house !
In a hurry!
Yeah. That's a GREAT wife!
That's a good partner. My wife is pushing me to finally finish mine this year. It went into paint last week and I have everything else done and ready except the motor.
Holy moly. A Shelby with an overdrive and a Paxton ! 👌 wow.
He has an excellent argument for that car being supercharged!
Now that's what I call A FANTASTIC episode. Cheers.
I agree
Would put money on the blower having failed, new one sent out but never replaced due to shipping or repair delays.
I agree just like what happened to Big Red and Green Hornet. They were converted to production ( no blower) and sold as regular Shelby’s
I saw a factory supercharged gt 350 back in 90. It was in Illinois, roselle dealership show, red, the guy had a ton of paperwork backing it up, the setup looked exactly like the car in the video. I remember it very clearly because it was the first time I saw a supercharger mounted low like that (i had only seen roots style up top before), I was in my mid teens at the time. I have talked about that car before and I was mostly told it had to be a fake or something, thanks for the video, it lets me know I wasn't hallucinating the entire thing.
Gotta love the stories (and sometimes, mysteries in this case) surrounding cool old cars, eh?
To me, it's more what keeps me in the hobby than anything else at this stage of life.
Thanks as always Jerry!
- Ed on the Ridge
This is better than the last one about getting my computer baggage checked on Southwest Airlines, although I thought computer people would like to see this.
If a work order came up and someone went to put the paxton on , a quick glance at the only other lime gold cars number and 2293 could look like 2213 and it was the same color, so someone got 2213 without the paxton ,that is documented and perhaps 2293 owner got a surprise with his Hone-o-drive GT350??? .Also has anybody ever seen a 67 with a spoiler on the front like this one? I have never seen another besides Eleanor clones......Absolutely Awesome video Jerry keep up the great work. Jim from Canada
Makes sense, same color car, same day of production. Another good observation on the spoiler. We looked at the spoiler and could not figure out the heritage.
The thing that makes the most sense is that 2293 was in production status on that date, and as 2213 was already completed, lends credence to the typo theory.
Yes was the front spoiler an aftermarket or installed by Shelby?
@@blkcoupequattro nobody knows.. but it fits perfect and have never seen another so we are trying to find any info on it also....we will take a good look for any stamping or part numbers in the near future and will post any news
@@blkcoupequattro good question, we don't know, maybe somebody does that watches this.
Thanks A million !! Jerry love your channel and what a rare Gem of a car /New Owner and a Story !!!! Love it
Thanks Robert, I try my best to tell a good story. I encourage people to email me when they know of one. jerryheasley@gmail.co
@@thewriter2549Jerry. Fo a few eps on collector cars. Lost in LA. FIRES......SADD😢😢😢😢😢😢
Fantastic mystery. I always enjoy the stories behind the scenes. The late 60s was an amazing time for auto industry
The 1960s were amazing time in the car industry. Thanks.
In 1984 there was a red GT500KR convertible for sale at the Darrel Starbird car show for $8500 in excellent condition. My dad was thinking about buying. I have regretted him not buying it for 40 years and counting.
In 84, 8500 was a decent amount of money for an old car. I wish I had a time machine. I would have a great collection. 😂
Holly cow, what a find!
That overdrive option is awesome, first time I have ever seen one
I think that the combination of the overdrive and supercharger is an indication that this could be a genuine car. Adding just a supercharger isn't that hard, but adding an overdrive gearbox is a bit more complicated since it has to fit both to the main gearbox and a shortened driveshaft. The rear axle gear ratio might also tell if this had the proper overdrive gearbox or if it was a later change, however that depends on if the rear axle gear ratio is different from the stock gear ratio. An overdrive can allow for a lower gear ratio at the rear axle for better acceleration and then the overdrive compensates for the lower gear ratio in the rear axle.
I did an overdrive gearbox change on a mid 60's Volvo once, and the gearbox interface was totally different from the standard interface there, so even though not the same brand the principle is the same and the headaches involved are similar.
If the list says, 2213 is suppose to have a super charger and it's also lime green........and the real car never had one.....and 2293 is lime green and has a super charger and isn't on the list.........It's got to be a typographical error. I'd say it's pretty sure a Super Charged car from the factory.
Has to be
OR or being that it is the 60's , and a lot of weed was smoked during those times.... They put the Super charger on the wrong car... meaning it was ment for 2213 but got put on 2293.. Work shop error not typographical hahahaha! 😉
@@jarleron4788something like that happened with the mystic cobra, was supposed to be like an even number of them made but the last one got painted black on accident
Find the car with the vin ending in 2213 and you'll have most of the answer you were seeking. It might not even exist....
@@clickman77 they say in the video that 2213 has been restored and is heavily documented.
You need to get ahold of Dennis Collins. He's a Shelby expert and will hello identify everything about 2293
I just commented the same thing then I saw your comment.
Dennis is probably already on the phone about this one lol
Music to the ears as it comes back to life
Hope it wasn't a SOCAL CAR
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Not so much for validation of the SC, but for the fact that the owner is so mild as he presents his finding.
Yes!!! The guy wasn't pushy or stating his opinions as the only possible outcome. I hope he can prove the car is what he thinks. That'd be great for him.
It's an interesting theory. The hole on the firewall appears to be cut differently & oversize compared to the documented cars. It's possible it was chopped or snipped open for ease of removal but It kind of just adds to the mystery. My gut tells me it's a "day 2" mod but ya never know.
i´m so glad that his wife put him on the right track🥰👌👍👍👍👍
Estate sales can be great. I picked up an old rust-free pickup truck at one. Very nice video. Cheers from the Finger Lakes!
Holy moly. A Shelby owner with a Canuck jacket.
because he is a Canuck!!!!!!
Jerry - another great car & great story! Hopefully crowd-sourcing will garner some information! Maybe Brian will chime in with some of his '67 expertise. I'll be following this video.
Yes, I hope we can find somebody that remembers the car at Gotham.
@@thewriter2549 Yes for sure! For me, the bottom line if we never get another piece of information on 2293.... they found a great car and had the means & opportunity own a piece of 1960's Ford Mustang - Shelby history. Not playing down the importance of determining the Paxton's origin, SA or owner installed, but It has provenance as a real Shelby GT350, everything else is just gravy!
Thats for this post you made my day again i love this older and orgional Shelby history never a dull moment
The nastiness of that cutout makes it much more likely it was done by the factory, people who bought those cars usually loved them and would have done a better job.
100%
I was thinking the exact opposite lol. Maybe someone bought the car off of a used car lot, him and his buddies added the super charger with a torch and some beers. The cut out on the documented sc car looks much better. It'd be interesting to see some other documented sc cutouts. I hope owner can find proof it is factory sc car.
Although it doesn't match the factory cut shown near the end.
Dude keeps a what 08 or something charger in the garage and a vintage gt 350 Shelby under a tarp outside. Yeah, he is a Mopar guy! Lol..
Pretty interesting, just as intererestng is the mini Jay Copter in the garage
Dang, this thing is frickin sweet. I 100% believe the car came from Shelby with the Hone-O-Drive and Paxton supercharger and that 2213 was indeed a typo. I like the patina but you could easily justify restoring it...can't lose either way on this unicorn.
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I saw a couple of these with the factory superchargers at the Ford museum located in the Larry H Miller motor sports park. They also has a couple original GT-40's that finished on the podium during the historic LaMans victories.
Great story and research, hope he can confirm it !
Jerry. We found this car at a local estate auction company and put the word out to several Shelby collectors. I have a bunch of pictures from that day since we were asked to do an inspection on it by one of those collectors prior to the sale. We wondered where the car ended up.
did the auction house say at that time they had parts to go with it? or was there any other info that they may have shared ?
Oh, thanks. I'd be interested to know what your inspection revealed.
@@thewriter2549 this considered a survivor. Car 😮😮
@@jbarsaloux8243 No, no mention of any other parts. The employee who opened up the car for us then took us to the back lot where they kept other cars from the same consigner. He never mentioned anything about any additional parts going with it or also being for sale, so I don't know for sure if there were any. Side note: the same seller also sold at a later date a really decent survivor original 1968 Cougar "S" Code. Came from Denver originally. We were told the cars were stored outside in a backyard in Phoenix with the hood up and windows down for around 20 years or so - hence the rough shape it's in (though thanks to dry Phoenix, it could have been much worse). It and the Cougar both had tons of leaves and debris throughout. They didn't really know any more than that. The auction house folks are very nice and run a great business, but they really didn't know what this car was and were surprised by the attention it got.
@@thewriter2549 Hi Jerry - this is Tom and Dana by the way - old car pals from Colorado now in Phoenix. Basically, all the same things you have now seen. We took detailed photos for another Shelby collector in California who was also bidding but dropped out after it got to a point where it didn't make sense with the obvious expense of a future restoration. The body is pretty solid considering the age and care over the years, but we didn't get to see/hear it run or drive it - obviously and unfortunately!
I wonder if the Paxton stamp on the bracket would be exactly the same look, location ect. as the aftermarket Paxton bracket? Did the original owner get the aftermarket supercharger and hone and when the seal went and brought it back to the dealer the automatically thought it was a Shelby installed supercharger and hone? That why Shelby paid the warranty?
I’m not a Ford guy myself, but I would fall over backwards if I found this in the garage or a barn and someone wanted to sell it to me for less than $25,000…
That's awesome! I want to see more of that truck he has too!
Very interesting story and look forward to more facts piling up on it's pedigree. I want to find it difficult that a typo is the solution, makes it a little too easy to explain away so I'll trust in the hard work and finding just the right people who know - Yeah, that front support hole looked like one hell of a butchered up hack that a little more investigation could help answer.
So a car sells at this auction, with a Paxton bracket, no blower - But in the same auction is a replacement NIB Paxton with a SA number on it....I imagine what Columbo would be thinking weighing up all this evidence~ that "Oh, just one more thing"... is right around the corner.
Nice call !
I bought a 93 cobra that had a Paxton SN92. Its the same as the SN60 that the Shelby's came with except some of the materials were changed to make it last a little longer. Its a very high maintenance unit. I had Craig Connoly at Paradise wheel rebuild mine. For what they are they make good power and spool up quick but they get so hot. Even with the Paxton oil cooler its still hot. Its a planetary drive that works off friction. Almost like a Centrifugal clutch.
It's a self contained unit with no drain plug. New they came with what looked like a turkey baster with a brake line attached and that's what was used to remove the fluid. I jerry rigged an Evac pump with a brake line attached to remove the fluid. Far from ideal. I changed the oil every 1,500 miles.
Good luck with your endeavor and i hope it all works out for you. That black Paxton you have is the exact same color that they used on the few Avanti R2 that came with a Paxton SN60.
Sooo..where is that emoji of that guy at the movies eating popcorn ? I have to say the sound of that car pulling in the garage alone put a hugh smile on my face !!
Good luck with your quest, I hope you can tick all the boxes.
Truly a great find. He , and his wife, must start his/their own channel.
I personally have seen numerous (over 10) vehicle titles with WRONG VIN numbers. I've also seen numerous vehicle repair invoices with the wrong year or wrong VIN. If a dealership and a state run DMV office can both make errors in data entry, then CERTAINLY a manufacturer can make a single digit VIN/Serial# mistake on their paperwork. If everything else says the man is right, and that one manufacturer shows a car with a single digit difference out of 2 possible cars, then I'm going to believe this guy is right. GT-350 Supercharged from Shelby. WOW.
A bit of a mystery, but a great article about an interesting car. Nice job all the way around.
I think there is going to be more to this story.
That overdrive unit was shocking to see-- OMG! Never, ever saw one of those. Have no knowledge of such a thing on a Shelby. But focusing mostly on the car itself. The history ,condition, how acquired , paperwork, etc.
What a great story! You have me convinced it is a supercharger car!
Had a Hone-O-Drive on my ‘67 GT500….Loved it!
Do you know if Shelby installed it?
Oh no, this was much later.
What a historic great muscle car!! awesome find! May wanna run it by Mr. Marty and get that documentation….cool cars !!!Mustangs …. They’re Tuff…… The Outsiders.
Great video and sharp car. Im thinking he has a real supercharged Shelby. I agree why would Shelby pay for the axle seal if he wasnt working on and around the rearend. I also believe that rough cut is a prototype for the air inlet maybe done early production. Either way i would use that nos supercharger on that car. I love the patina
Yes, install it!
Very cool video 😊
Gotham's of New York are distant relatives of mine.
Although, I'm not sure if it's my family that owns the dealership this came from. As I don't know any of them.
Side note: The Gothams used to own 160 acres of Manhattan, including where the NY Stock Exchange sits.
It was taken from them through imminent domain (along with proprty belonging to family members of Prince Edwards). and given to an organization that immediately divided it and resold it for way more than it was worth when they took it.
The Gotham and Edwards families both got a settlement of a little over $1 million, but I think that was for both families to split.
Very cool story! Great detective work, I hope you find your answers!
It would be amazing if a person would come forward with pics of it at the dealership.
Get in touch with Dennis Collins. (From the coffee walk you tube channel)
He has one of the other supercharged GT350’s.
The part numbers and comparison might help.
This guy did his homework
I am surprised that it is not limited slip but maybe the limited slip clutch is simply worn out. 5:18 in the video. I do believe that it was Paxton equipped from Shelby though. The story gives a good account for that belief. Wow, what a great find.
My conclusion: that is a warranty super charger that was never installed , maybe the original was removed and never gotten to.
Maybe, maybe!
Every time he points out a historic document, the price goes up $20,000.
Just love the car!! It’s got history no matter what!!
Just save her because she’s beautiful!!! She has been well cared for!!
Great video!
Cool ass find. I agree with you. Dat car came with the supercharger.
Car had 56xx miles when the axle seal was done, so Hone-O-Drive was on there from day one and Shelby paid the bill on the related repair. HOD makes the car rarer than a Paxton, even. If the original owner wanted the OD unit, ostensibly because of high numerical gears, why wouldn't he want the Paxton at the same time, as well?
The rear end would have been re geared which could explain the seal warranty. People tend to put on blinders when they want an outcome to go a certain direction.
Hopefully Jason gets his hands on this one to restore it!
I hope You find Your answer, Great Informative Video. Thanks
That was interesting & a fun experience. I once visited Fred Deming's home in Phx, Az & saw alot of the prototype parts, along with several gt500kr's & a T-5 car. I wish I had a clue then, what I was looking at!! He even had a Starsky / Hutch car. Sold for next to nothing, when Fred passed away. Miss than man / legend!
Hey which one is 2213 ? I gotta put this supercharger on it, ' it's the fugly green one, okay got it
more than a couple of dealerships offered packages that weren't available from the factory, but were considered options.
Great vid!!! 👍👍
Welcome Darrell and Sheila (spelling on both?) to not only the wonderful world of Shelby American (see you and car at SAAC 50?) but also the crazy and mysterious world of 1967 Shelbys!
Kevin Marti is the one who sells the window stickers and has all the info. This one is weird, in that the HON and blower make the 350 more expensive than a GT500.
Marti report only list ford installed parts not shelbys
I have a feeling the car was raced pretty hard, he blew the paxton up and shelby took the blown original one for the core and gave him the replacement
Common practice back in the day was. I work for a Pontiac dealer in Washington DC Blank Pontiac. I was schooled GM School for auto Transmissions. Back then car warranties were handled haphazardly to say the least. Can't tell you how many Transmissions were rebuilt under warranty and I never saw the car. Service manager told me take some old parts for warranty so when the warranty manager comes around you can see those parts and sometimes several times. My guess is that's supercharger was used in the same way they knew the car did not have miles on it as it was going to be brand new coming down the assembly line. So on the warranty tag you put enough miles to make it believable and that you were not going to get tripped up for the same problems slipping on shifts. My guess is that's how it came up with a Paxton Supercharger new. Done all the time back in the day LOL
It will be very interesting to see what that car appraises at, given it seems as though it could be a one of one.
I know there were some really rare ones in 67' and 68'.
Fred had 2 gt500kr convertibles, 2 gt500kr coupes & a Perrywinkelt5. A 79 f350 & a starsky & hutch car. Plus he had a mustang performance shop at the time. He had so many prototype nascar parts that filled an entire garage. He would know this car if he was still alive. Great Memories! TY!
@@kylesaad5647 They did not make Shelby coupes with the exception of the 2 Experimental ones owned by Craig Jackson (The Green Hornet & Little Red) ….d9d you mean Fastbacks?
LOVE Jerry's FORD and SHELBY clips.
Very cool story, hope he can get to the bottom of it!
I have a 53 corvette with a Paxton supercharger.
2:49 Forward by Peter Brock - is that the Australian Peter Brock?
Bill Kolb Jr (The Man who moved Muscle) was the sales Manager at Gotham Ford from 1966-1969 after Iacoca arranged to have him transferred from Larson Ford to Gotham, he sold more Shelby's than anyone in the country. He became the sale manager for Hory Chevrolet in 1970-1975 - where he sold 30 Black Corvettes in 1973. My brother owns one of the vettes and talked to Bill - he is in a retirement home in AZ.
I read online he passed away.
@@thewriter2549 It's been a few years maybe 4 years since my brother talked to him.
I would talk to Dennis Collins, he has a lot of knowledge about these cars and is very resourceful. It couldn't hurt
This is so good. I have owned at least 25 classic cars in the past. Did complete restos on some and just cosmetics on others. I've helped so many people with cars etc.
I'm soooooo overdue to stumble upon a PURE classic. I'm due. Just keep pushing. It will be a Boss or a Hemi car. Can't wait!
You are going to find a pure classic. It may already be in your garage.
I once bought a lime green VW golf (rabbit) .
It was a run of 20 right hand drive models in the UK .
Unfortunately the chassis number ended in 21 on the registration document instead of the 20 on the chassis plate .
I had a police man friend run the document number and it came up as a white car in a nearby town , we went to the owners house and explained what the issue was , his document had the same vin number, his car had a vin number ending in 21 .
So it was a typo of someone either at the dealership when registering the car or DVLA making a mistake.
(My vin did not come up as any car on the UK database)
After a lot of hassle convincing DVLA it was just a clerical error the car was inspected and a new V5 registration document issued .
I sold it and the new owner promptly crashed it into a lorry😂
What a lot of work for the car to last less than 2 weeks on the road.
It ended up at a scrap yard in broxburn just next to the fence where it stood out like a sore thumb in it's lime green paintwork slowly being stripped for all it's useable parts .
Great Content ❤
Maybe this guy owning that GT350 will break him of his bad habit of liking those Mopars! :)
Beautiful awesome car l love it and the great history with it. Really hard to beat the Shelby mustang great history
Him not being a Ford guy, I sure hopes he takes care of this rare beauty
i know him and 100% car guy ...it is in great hands ......Jim from Canada
Yea hopefully leave it as a survivor or do a faithful period resto.
We bought it with the intent of doing an EV conversion on a car with great patina, till we started looking closer at it.
Noooooooooooooooooooo ! Call me first ! I’ll make a rotisserie restoration happen and get that car back to better than new condition ! That’s too rare to destroy with a conversion to an EV ! Restoration at this point ! It’s going to take a few years so don’t wait either !
My favorite small block of all time.
Need a part 2
We do and we're searching.
hope there is a video on the dart
How about a film about that Hemi Dart?
Cool car. Love the color
Was this the actor on the series Longmire that was on maybe Netflix or HBO?
I know there is a 66 gt350 that I worked on in the nineties that isn't a real Shelby. The original was snuck out by a plumber and put sideways in to a telephone pole. The shop I worked at took another shell and vin swapped it , did a good job , the only tell was some of the spotwelds looked to nice in the rear . All off the books to preserve the value of the car . Now if you bought a 66 gt350 Shelby blue and white out of the Houston area , that might be your car .
Awesome find! I have a hard time thinking that the coincidences don’t add up as he’s concluded. Also 0 is after the 9 on a keyboard and would be the obvious slip of thumb if mistyped
His comment about not knowing if the auctioned supercharger came from the same estate as the car makes no sense. Every auctioned item has a Lot number. The auction house must have a detailed index of every item and where it came from /amount sold for accounting purposes. Should be a no-brainer to figure out.
Great find !
Fantastic story!!
It's remarkable what people will cast aside to languish away.
seems like the speedometer was replaced having the difference in mileage. my base 67 bounces between 5 and 85 while my phone app says 25. hence I need a new speedometer.
Was the hono matic put on from factory to lower the cruising rpm, extend the life of the supercharger and make it more driveable? Makes sense to me.
The literature from Hone-O-Drive shows a good use, which we revealed in the video. That was to make it easier to drive a Shelby with digger rear end gears home from the drag strip.
@thewriter2549 thanks for taking the time to reply, love your videos keep up the great work 👍
The Accel distributor may not be original however it make the car run a hell of a lot better
You need to find a local artist that does book rebinding I regularly have to re bind a sketch book because I've scrapbooked to much into one volume.