@@notoriouseagle1074 Haven't seen that one yet. I know for a hot minute Greg Schiano took Carrolls spot. But indeed Chip Kellys spot should forever be secured.
@@Giratina1999 They do update these lists every now and then. Like for the Pete Carroll segment in this upload, the mentioning of his hiring by the Seahawks and winning that wildcard game against the Saints was an update. Eventually, Carroll was removed entirely from the list and replaced with Greg Schiano.
John McKay??? The dude was put in a situation where he had to build a team from scratch with players not good enough to play anywhere else….then led the 0-26 Bucs to the NFC championship game 2 years later and lost by 3 pts to a team that almost beat the Steel Curtain
Great coaches don't go 0-26. Sorry. And did you see what happened for McKay after Doug Williams left the Bucs? A whole lot of nothing. He was not a good NFL coach.
@@encycl07pedia- your take is over simplistic and shit. First of all, Doug Williams was by no means a great quarterback, he was at besset okay one. Second of all, how many NFL coaches have been super successful without a great quarterback? You should probably stop having football takes.
Seriously. It wasn't even a normal expansion teams. The rules they had for adding the Bucs basically gave him practice squad players and within four years he won a division title and went the championship conference. And he was cool as hell. That's a bad call.
John McKay does NOT deserve to be on this list. He took over an expansion team, back when the rules were much harder to be an expansion team, and had them in the playoffs by their 4th season. Then they made the playoffs 4 straight years. That success would have continued had The Bucs paid Doug Williams, they didn’t, Williams jumps to the USFL and The Bucs were w/o a QB again for his last two seasons. It’s a shame he is on this list and really doesn’t deserve to be because if he would have stepped into a situation that say, Barry Switzer stepped into he would have lost very few games.
He clearly knew what he was doing, he just didn't have the support. Imagine what he would have done if he had ownership like they had in San Fran in the 80's or New England with the Krafts?
You get some rest because some of his ineptitude in the beginning of how he thought he could coach even some of the players admit that he had this arrogance about him thinking that he could actually coach when he found out he was in a totally different thing that anyone's at USC. He eventually learned from his mistakes and it started to build a pretty good team it was untimely ownership that was his downfall and not responding Doug Williams and have him being paid the 54th quarterback. Ownership prettymuchit but sunk the Buccaneers from most of its time it was only till later when ownership changed over it when the Bucs got better. Let's not forget John McKay son Rich McKay what's the GM that created those super bowl-winning Bucs and the late 90s version as well. He got 2 Hall of Famers in one draft
@@BTLAGS what coach didn’t show “ineptitude” at the start of an expansion team? He was never not a good coach in Tampa Bay. It takes a long time to build and he did that from day 1.
Williams didn’t even really ask to “get paid.” He simply asked to make more than the 12 I think it was backups in the league who made more than him. Hugh Culverhouse is who wouldn’t do it, not McKay.
@@ReflectionOfPerfection "Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but she can't play football worth a damn" Maybe most underrated one nowadays: "Maybe that will distract the Falcon quarterback." -- McKay once threatened to show up naked for a game against the Atlanta Falcons. What a hero.
Funny thing is Saban with a 2nd chance could make it in the NFL if learns from his mistakes as Pete Carrol did other wise he would washout again. But I dont see saban leaving alabama unless an NCAA violation has been commited to where suspensions and investigations would be done. Everyone forgets Carrol left when USC was about to get a Train run on it by the NCAA. Chip Kelly Left oregon back in 2013 because they were in trouble.
@@flockawaka1017 they were some NCAA violations with recruiting and recruits getting certain things that were deemed not with the guidelines of NCAA. I don't recall on top of my head what happened but if you're probably Googled it and could probably find it
It’s unbelievable HOW OLD this video is and where these actual rankings should be now. With Pete Carroll being the prime example and some people see him as one of the best coaches in the NFL for the past 10 years.
Let's be honest most of us are a little to young for Pete Carroll the college coach I only knew this man as the Seahawks coach like I remember seeing him on the sideline in his first couple of years and it just made sense
What happened with Petrino was horrendous.. but as they mention, he was a mess from Day One. Does any of that bad hire responsibility fall on Arthur Blank and Rich McKay?
0:59 John McKay. 5:21 Pete Carroll*. 9:26 Dick MacPherson. 13:12 Nick Saban. 16:28 Dennis Erickson. 20:39 Bill Peterson. 24:09 Bud Wilkinson. 28:16 Steve Spurrier. 33:10 Lou Holtz. 38:59 Bobby Petrino. *= Pete Carroll was replaced with Greg Schiano on this list after winning Super Bowl XLVIII with the Seattle Seahawks.
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McKay shouldn’t be on this list. He did a good job after the first two seasons.... those only happened because he was stuck in an impossible situation.
He built the Buccaneers out of scratch with grade D players and a cheap owner. He had to draft and coach well just to last as long as he did. Mind you no free agency, limited draft scouting, no salary cap, complete reliance on the draft to retool the franchise. When the Houston Texans came into the league 2002 they were a salary cap dumping ground because a couple teams had good players with High salaries while the Buccaneers got everyone nobody wanted who couldnt play. The seahawks in 76 got Jim Zorn, Steve Largent and Mike Curtis
Dick MacPherson was a very nice and generous man. His brother was our parish priest during the 70's. We had a large group of fathers and sons travel to Macomb, IL to watch Dick's UMASS team play Western IL. Also had the pleasure of meeting again when he was the defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns. He and several coaches had dinner at the parish rectory the day prior to playing the Cardinals in St Louis. He provided dozens of tickets for many of us to attend the game.
Coughlin everyone forgets he coached at BC not a good football school in Massachusetts more of a Hockey school and he has accolades galore. Coughlin's style worked because he was a pro coach through and through and discipline was a staple of him along with coaching
No question Greg needed to keep chopping wood in Piscataway. I have no clue what this guy showed at the college level......I mean it was a nice accomplishment for Jersey, but it's not like Rutgers was in the Big 10 or some football powerhouse conference. It remains to be seen if Matt Ruhle will make it to this list, but I was really surprised Ruhle brought Ed Foley to coach in the pros. Don't get me wrong, Ed Foley coached my 8th grade rec league basketball team. He's a great guy. But, I just can't see how his rah-rah style translates. Surprised Ruhle went that route, but I'm very happy for Ed......as we all know what his brother Glenn was able to accomplish at Boston College and having a decent 5 year NFL career. Hope it works out.
@@jean-francoispilote5751 You know how bad Urban Meyer was? Hue Jackson as the Browns head coach had more wins than Urban did. And he went winless one season(!!!).
@@r3tr0actiongamer24 Nah, man, Petrino was self-aware enough to run away. Urban was stupid enough to force his apathetic owner to step in and fire him. Also, Petrino never kicked his own kicker.
@@MChuck- Based on a conversation that Arthur Blank recounted to the media, it sounds like Petrino was going to get at least part of a second season to see if he could fix things due to Michael Vick's arrest screwing up the team's plans for 2007.
That name will always be a curse in Falcons country, a tratior,liar,turncoat if this was medvial times he would be in the guillotine and " OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!! 😡😡😡
I feel like the university that hired him, Arkansas, should've gotten some kinda divine punishment as well. How can you hire someone that just quits on his team like that?
@@ComputerJunkie00 I feel like I should quote Vikings coach Mike Zimmer (who, ironically enough, was the Falcons Defensive Coordinator during that season) when it comes to Bobby Petrino: "He's a gutless bastard, quote that I don't give a shit!"
@@mahmoud6843 We don't deserve the punishment. We've suffered more than enough since Petrino got tossed. Me and other Hog fans are thankful Pittman is making them competitive again.
@@EricK-no5np that's not saying much in terms of the quality of coaches in the NFL. If Joe Gibbs and Bill Parcells and the like we're still in the NFL, Pete Carroll would be the middle of the pack.
What John McKay did in Tampa Bay... what he endured and what he achieved... it should be considered nothing short of a Herculean act of will. I'm fine that he's on this list, because he probably would have continued to flourish in college, but I can't think of a coach that suffered the slings and arrows of the NFL worse and still managed to build a competitive team.
Petrino almost seemed like he had a compulsion to break contracts and burn bridges. He ditched his job as the Jags OC to go to Auburn without telling his boss Tom Coughlin. He tried to nab the job of Auburn head coach away from his former boss, Tommy Tuberville, while still at Louisville - and straight-up lied about it until Auburn confirmed it. He ditched Louisville 6 months after signing a 10-year extension, leaving within days of a bowl win. And of course the whole debacle with the Falcons and Arkansas. And that doesn't include the numerous confirmed and many rumored attempts to get other jobs. What a guy.
@@chrisuncleahmad Nah no Beef with Steve he was cool but, Nick Saban he pulled a coward move as well he was like he wasn't talking to them knew good and damn well he was should have just been honest bout it
Probably an honorable mention at most but Dirk Koetter should be a consideration given that he was the coach that started the Boise State “dynasty run” from the late 90s. After an average stint at ASU and a few good seasons as OC with the Falcons, he flunked hard with Tampa Bay Buccaneers that eventually gave them Bruce Arians and Tom Brady along with a Super Bowl LV win!
Nick Saban would be a great coach in the NFL, let’s not forget that when Brees was a free agent Saban wanted to sign Brees but dolphins management wouldn’t let him , and instead signed Daunte Culpepper . If Saban had his way and was able to run the team how he wanted to I believe he would have been a good coach.
He is an expert in NON pro style offenses and would seriously struggle just like so many of his great college quarterbacks did in the NFL because they just could not transition to pro style offenses.
nah, he's only a masterful recruiter and a total douchebag otherwise, you can't have 15 first round picks in the NFL therefore Saban will fail every time.
Bellichek thinks very highly of Saban as a pro coach. Their time together in Cleveland was the best they've been in 30 years. Saban would be just fine with the right players. That goes for any coach in the league. Does anyone think all of the Lions coaches just can't coach? It's about the Jimmy's and Joe's not the X's and O's.
@@mikeschmidt4800 nope.. belichick is the exception..saban and his ilk may never find the way back..kingsbury is stinking, Matt rhule, urban meyer maybe the worst..I think nfl teams will exhaust every option before turning to a college coach since so many have sucked
McKay knew that in the time before free agency the team would suck for a long time. He told the owners that. That's why he could joke. He wasn't under a modern "Win, win now or be fired" situation like NFL coaches are now. He didn't feel any pressure to win and win right then. He most likely saw every loss as a learning experience. As long as the team got better and didn't make the same mistakes repeatedly he was cool with losing.
Pre free agency, but also in pre salary cap era you had to move heaven and earth to turn a team around. Before the cap if the Cowboys, Redskins, or 49ers got a good batch of players, they held onto them till they were no longer good. Good teams hoarded backup quarterbacks who were better than half the starters in the league. The good teams could stay good for 10 years and if you whiffed on a draft pick it could haunt you just as long.
This list needs to be re-done, move McKay off the list, add Urban Meyer and put him at 2!!! Even Holtz was better than Meyer, reportedly kicking the kicker
@Fries Carroll was a Jets coach. Only few of the coaches won there. And situation at New England was awful after SB and Parcells' departure, Kraft wanted to be Jerry Jones and didn't know nothinhg about football. Plus, lockerroom was toxic then. Even Belichick had problems in first 2 seasons when he came....
@@ReflectionOfPerfectionI know, I'm a Pats fan. Kraft and Parcells butted heads over personell decisions as Big Tuna didn't commit himself on the long run to NE. There was too much ego and not enough talking face-to-face. Carroll was a victim of those circumstances. Even Belichick didn't win in his 1st season.
@@sikecar534 Belichick had to pay for the sins of Bobby Grier as GM his first year. He had no 1st round pick, Katzenmoyer went AWOL, Terry Glenn was a nutcase, Armstrong was washed up and Bledsoe was declining. They lucked into Brady becoming God no doubt, but Belichick literally built the dynasty almost from scratch.
@@ReflectionOfPerfection exatcly. And people are moaning on last season as that was entire on BB and that TB12 saved him. And thet he's not the winning coach. 🤣 If you watch A Football life - Cleveland '95., you'll see same traits of BB there.
As many others have said, McKay doesn't belong on this list anymore (nor does Carroll). The Cleveland Browns weren't an expansion team, and they won one game in the span of two seasons. That makes the Bucs losing streak look good in comparison. And quite hilariously, all time flameout Urban Meyer does belong on the list. Also, I'm surprised Gene Stallings wasn't on this list.
@@BTLAGS I used to have a game program my older cousin originally bought from a Boston Breakers/Bandits game. Wrestling champion Ron Simmons was on that Bandits team.
I don't have anything against Bobby Petrino as a person, but I agree with you 100%. The fact that he leaves Atlanta only after 13 games just makes no sense at all.
An updated version of this list in December 2021... 10. Greg Schiano 9. Chip Kelly 8. Nick Saban 7. Dennis Erickson 6. Bill Peterson 5. Bud Wilkinson 4. Steve Spurrier 3. Urban Meyer 2. Lou Holtz 1. Bobby Petrino
@@macofalltrades6396 Bill wasn't an idiot, but he was hopelessly out of his depth, had minimal communication skills, and having effectively a semi-pro Oilers team that led disgusted fans to flip off the camera and walk out of the stadium on Monday Night Football didn't help.
@@MRB16th That team did have some talent - Pastorini, Elvin Bethea, Kenny Houston, Bill Curry to name a few - but there obviously wasn't a core to the team until Bum Phillips arrived, and that's totally on Peterson. Sid Gillman took over when Peterson got to 1-18 and did what he could, but the crater there took three years to fill.
@@macofalltrades6396 I only knew of Belthea and Pastorini off the top of my head: with them, Kenny Houston and Bill Curry on his roster, it beggars belief the Oilers were such a putrid team. Bill Peterson had absolutely no idea whatsoever how to use these talented players.
His humor is timeless. Once, he said to reporters, "You don't know the difference between a football and bananas." The next day, the reporters gave him bananas, and McKay's response? "You don't know the difference between a football and a Mercedes-Benz." 😁
@@phillyfan-182 Well I would knock McKay and Carroll off this list and put Kelly at 10. Just because he did have the 10 win seasons in 2013 and 2014. By 2015 though he just looked like a guy who didn’t know how to run a team anymore. To this day it still shocks me the Niners hired him! Right away I knew that was going to be a disaster and kept thinking to myself…”The Niners are team on a decline and need a new young head coach to try and rebuild themselves. How in the world does Chip Kelly make any sense???”
If he continues his winning ways with Russell Wilson say, the next 4 years averaging 9 wins a year, the guy will just be outside the top 10 right under Knox in regular season wins. He's only 5 away from being in the top 20, 11 of whom are in the hall of fame with two I firmly believe will be there one day in Belichick and Reid.
Tom Coughlin: Built Boston College into a competitive team, and engineered one of the greatest upsets in all of professional sports Jimmy Johnson: 1 college championship and 2 Super Bowls with the Cowboys Dick Vermeil: Led UCLA to an upset in the Rose Bowl and commanded the Greatest Show on Turf
@@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 i mean he did. the NCAA recognizes major polls outside of the AP and Coaches. and some schools have claimed national titles this way. ex: Ole Miss in 1960, Ohio State in 1961, Notre Dame & Arkansas in 1964, Ohio State in 1970, UCF in 2017, etc. a major poll recognized Miami as national champions in 1986, 1987, and 1988.
@@Fnoel98356 I already know that Dick led the Eagles to Super Bowl 15, I was just reflecting what this episode said he accomplished in college and the pros
Nobody butchered the English language more then Bill Peterson. " I want you to stand on the helmet with your sideline under your arm." "If you think I'm gonna take another loss standing down." English instructors would have fired him before the semester ended!! #OMG
10. John McCay: doesn’t deserve to be here. TB was an expansion franchise and by year 4 they were in NFC Championship 9. Pete Carroll: pre-Seahawks era, yes. Today, no. He needed to find the right fit and Seattle is it for him 8. Dick MacPherson: too small of a sample size to really judge him, also missed games because he was ill. Ron Meyer would’ve been a better choice. Had success at UNLV and Pony Express SMU, left for NE in 1982, 54-50 record with 2 NFL teams (NE, IND), made the playoffs twice (both were strike shortened years), fired by the Patriots due to issues between him & team, fired by Colts after making trade to get Jeff George in the draft 7. Nick Saban: His first year, 9-7, came within a game of winning the AFC East. Year two, last place in the division (6-10). A lot of people are pointing out that there were issues with the front office over whether to sign Drew Brees, who was coming off a shoulder injury that many teams were unsure about. Maybe at 10/Best of the Rest 6. Dennis Erickson: definitely deserves to be on this list, probably higher because of two opportunities in the NFL (SEA & SF) and he bombed badly 5. Bill Peterson: just for the NFL Films sound bites alone and how bad the Oilers in 1972-73 were 4. Bud Wilkinson: should’ve stayed retired instead of trying to break into the NFL with the Cardinals of all teams 3. Steve Spurrier: Everyone knows why Spurrier was hired as the [FOOTBALL TEAM]’s head coach. Dan Snyder didn’t like Marty Ball after 1 season (8-8 season after starting 0-5) so he drove a dump truck of money down to Florida and parked it in front of Spurrier’s house. Spurrier even admits that he didn’t do due diligence in researching the WSH job. He assumed that there would be a personnel guy hired but all decisions would be made by Dan Snyder (what a surprise). Again, dump truck of money can cloud anyone’s judgement. One of several examples of Snyder running the [FOOTBALL TEAM] but Spurrier is worthy of being #3 2. Lou Holtz: I don’t think anyone knows/remembers that Lou Holtz coached in the NFL since he is so associated with college, especially Notre Dame. Yeah… trying to bring the college spirit to the NFL (especially with a fight song) just won’t fly. Barely one forgettable season with the NYJ (3-10) 1. Bobby Petrino: Oh definitely worthy of the #1 ranking. In his defense, that was the season where Michael Vick was busted for a dog fighting ring in VA (lived an hour away from there when I was stationed in VA, remember a shipyard worker had a cartoon of Vick facing a jury of his peers that was composed of famous cartoon dogs), but still! He could’ve rode the season out, ended up with a high draft pick for the 2008 draft (Falcons had #3 pick & took Matt Ryan), but nope. He was negotiating his escape plan while telling everyone “I’m here for the long term.” Then he goes to Arkansas, drives that program into the ditch, gets caught having an affair when the motorcycle accident is more than what happened. He then goes to WKY where they put all kinds of stipulations on if he leaves (surprise, he lasts one season there). And then he crawls back to Louisville for a second stint there that is pretty much buoyed by Lamar Jackson until the bottom falls out in 2018 with 2-8 record & 0-7 ACC record. Currently he is at FCS Missouri State. May Petrino never be considered for an NFL gig ever again. Likely will stay here until Urban Meyer leaves the Jaguars for USC/Florida State/Texas/Nebraska/some other college team waiting for their savior.
As an Arkansas fan, Petrino didn't run the program into the ground. In his last 2 yrs, we went a combined 21-5 with our lone BCS bowl appearance and a victory in the Cotton Bowl. He turned us into an offensive juggernaut. The program collapse started the moment he got on his motorcycle. Fortunately, we've overcome the years-long fallout from that motorcycle crash.
Agreed, I'd add Urban Meyer to the list (I have reasons for him wanting to fail partly because of the whole deal with Aaron Hernandez among others) and Doug Marrone. IIRC, Marrone only had two winning seasons as an NFL head coach (his second and last year with the Bills) and the Cinderella year the Jaguars had back in '17. Kinda lethargic at best and Bills fans won't forgive him for jumping ship. But we wouldn't have gotten McDermott and Beane had he stuck around. That said, I'm waiting on McBeane to get the RB/OL game straightened out. Only reason I'd list McKay is that I think he went into it with the attitude that it would be a walk in the park not realizing that he was set up for failure. But he did give us those one-liners and one of the NFL's more interesting GMs/Presidents. And Spurrier would have never gone into coaching had it been for that '76 season. Some food for thought. I'll also add Jim Harbaugh to the list. While he did had three consecutive NFC championship appearances, he was also easy to hate as an NFL coach. The fact that there's at least three Secret Base (SB Nation) videos on beefs that people had with him speaks volumes. Petrino is a piss stain.
Even before Seattle, Carroll doesn't deserve to be on this list. Guy was never even a head coach in college until he went to USC after the Patriots. People act like he fell into the Jets HC job. He'd been the Def. Coordinator there for the previous 4 years, and a NFL assistant for 6 more years before that. By the time he took over the Jets, he was more NFL assistant than college assistant. This list is revisionist history when it comes to him and his time with the Jets and Pats. Listening to shtheads like Andy Benoit pretend to know anything about anything is another reason why NFL films should wait until there's dirt on the grave before adding coaches to this list. Same thing as having Andy Reid on their top 10 coaches to never win a super bowl list.
The segment on Pete Carroll shows the danger of including active personnel in these lists. Writing this in 2020, the view of Pete Carroll's pro career looks very different from when this show was originally aired.
The other thing about Carroll that cracks me up here, is listening to these guys talk as if Carroll left college and just fell into that job with the Jets in 1994. He had been a NFL assistant for the PREVIOUS 10 YEARS before being the Jets Head Coach, including being the Defensive Coordinator with NYJ the previous 4 years. Had spent virtually the same amount of time as a NFL assistant coach than he had a college head coach by the time he took over the Jets.
@@stevensather5911 Yeah that is why Petrino will always be number one. In addition to quitting, he also flat out lied to Arthur Blank's face he told him he had a coach and then less than 12 hours later, he bolts the Atlanta Falcons to the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Barry Switzer absolutely deserves to be on this list the man was dropped into a fantastic situation and although he did “win” a Super Bowl it’s not like he was a good coach the dude couldn’t make it past the divisional round and lost to an expansion team at that you put him in the same scenario as that Bucs coach I doubt he would do better
If McKay, McPherson, and Carroll are removed from the list, it's a toss up of whether Switzer, Butch Davis, or Ron Meyer (SMU/Pats/Colts) gets the 10th spot along with the addition of Schiano and Urban Meyer. EDIT: I forgot about Chip Kelly. Maybe he should be on this list
I completely understand what you’re saying but if they did remake this list, I highly doubt Switzer would be on it just for the fact that he was only with Dallas four seasons, won the NFC East three of those seasons as well as a Super Bowl. But I do agree, Barry Switzer was more of a caretaker than a head coach, Troy Aikman helped organize that team more than Switzer ever did.
NFL Network: "How can you put a coach that won a superbowl on this list?" You can do it by realizing that he inherited an amazing situation and accepting the hundreds of anecdotes from people inside the program that switzer did almost no coaching and had nothing to do with their success. It's really not hard.
I live in Arkansas. When I showed my mom the Petrino clip, she was shocked about how the Razorbacks landed Petrino as a HC. I showed it to her sometime after his infamous 2012 motorcycle crash. Before that, she had no clue about his short tenure with the Falcons. The Hogs, in a way, still haven't recovered. There were signs of hope between 2014 and mid to late 2016, but from the end of 2016 on, we've been at the bottom of the barrel in the SEC. People warned us (Arkansas) about Petrino. Sadly, we didn't listen.
Arkansas is showing signs of recovering, but it will take a long time more to recover from that hire and you can't forget that megalomaniac owner Jerry Jones taking a home game from Arkansas to play it in Jerry World because he is a big booster as well as the two different home stadiums in Fayetteville and Little Rock have done some harm as well.
@@b.d.cooper8671 Honestly, I feel like we've fully recovered. We're beating teams we're suppose to beat and we're getting wins against the big boys (maybe not Bama and Georgia, but those below them). Plus, Little Rock games have been played forever and the program has been just fine in spite of that. I hope the LR games never go away. It would be a major blow to fans in central, southern, and eastern AR. Not everyone is willing to drive 5-6 hrs to Fayetteville. That's the case with me living in South Arkansas.
@@finchborat I know that history is a hard thing to get rid of, but I wonder how the NCAA does classify those games and how it affects recruit visits. And with the NIL on the horizon, you guys are going to have to work to ensure Alabama, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, etc. don't steal recruits as they have the money and program success.
My Mom is from Wheatley Arkansas and my Dad is from Cottonplant... When I heard that coward took the job there, I was sick for the entire state... You deserved much better than that scumbag
McKay’s son Rich was the GM for the 2002 Buccaneers 🏴☠️ that won SBXXXVII They had the NFL’s number one defense thanks to 3 hall of fame players on their roster John lynch at strong Safety Derrick Brooks at Outside Linebacker (2002 DPOY) Warren Sapp at Defensive Tackle
And Rich built the Falcons team that went 28-3, and we'll leave it at that. J.K. only got to play on the inaugural Bucs squad but has mostly been an attorney and doing a little work in the semi-pros as GM of the LA Xtreme of the original XFL and head of football ops for the AAF.
14 year ago I thought that Bobby Petrino is the worst NFL head coach that belong in the college ranks but 14 years later I was wrong it is Urban Meyer, he is worse than him, Urban Meyer is number 1 and Bobby Petrino is number 2 on that list
Unless Urban Meyer gets a college coaching job in the next couple of days after getting fired by Jacksonville, then he’s number #1. It’s evenly close between him and Bobby Petrino.
Been looking for this!!! Best is Bill Peterson.... the George W. Bush of NFL head coaches.... “3 Words Men: Super Bowl” and “I want you stand on your helmets with the sidelines under your arms.”
He's pretty much Mr Patriot Hall of Fame offensive line coach who could make good offensive lineman out of decent offense of lineman. Scarnecchia definitely deserves to be in the Patriots Hall of Fame as a coach or contributor.
@@retepoteil Yeah it honestly doesn't get its due. This is a team that year 1 didnt look much like the squad from Mora, and year 2 looks even more different following that playoff run. Even if the Saints weren't as good as their SB team, they were a better team. They'd even beat up on that Hawks team iirc earlier in the season. That was to me Hasselbecks, who is probably underrated in history as well for his work in Tenn and as a backup in Indy, finest hour even if its remembered for the beast quake.
List definitely needs to be updated: 1. Urban Meyer 2. Bobby Petrino 3. Bill Peterson 4. Bud Wilkinson 5. Greg Schiano 6. Lou Holtz 7. Steve Spurrier 8. Chip Kelly 9. Lane Kiffin 10. Nick Saban Honorable mentions: Butch Davis, Dennis Erickson, Dick Macpherson, Dan Devine, Mike Riley, Ray Perkins, Matt Rhule
9:30. Read the scroll. Troy Polamulu was a prophet. "Eventually [rule changes are] going to start taking away from the essence of this game." He was so right.
Carroll leaved USC just prior to a NCAA investigation that was targeting him. As I recall, it left a pretty good black eye for the college to deal with.
I feel like Urban Meyer is going to make this list in the future. I just can’t see him turning around Jacksonville like he did Florida and Ohio State...
They definitely need to update the Bobby Petrino part. This came out before his motorcycle accident that also revealed that he was having an affair and it ended his Arkansas tenure. His defensive coordinator with the Falcons was Mike Zimmer. Before he became coach of the Vikings, he was the defensive coordinator with the Bengals. During his time with the Bengals, he was asked about Petrino in 2010 in an interview and he called him a 'gutless bastard'. When he was told that they might not be able to print 'bastard' in the newspaper, he responded by changing it to 'gutless MF'. And he clarified it by saying that Petrino was a coward for the way he left because he ruined his assistants' lives and said that he didn't have the nuts to finish the job.
McKay could've been a stand up comic. “We’ve broken down the expansion teams and they’ve averaged winning 2.7 games their first year, which to me is rather difficult. I figured out the 2, but the .7 has got me wondering what the hell is going on.”
And he hurt more than just his own reputation in the process... As a Hog fan, I'm hoping he's learned his lesson and his return to Fayetteville can help us improve.
Matt Rhule and Urban Meyer are making good cases to be on this list. Mike Singletary would be a good honorable mention. He didn't do great in SF, but I think he'd be a great college coach.
At about the 7:30 mark, it's said that Carroll would succeed in another NFL situation and by jove, he was right. It was "wrong place, wrong time" with the Jets and Pats (who were, then, prepetually mediocre with short glimpses of brillance when they weren't absolutely wretched). Pats found their man in Bellichick but the Jets...well...
The problem was Robert Kraft tried to take over the team from Parcells and it caused the rift that led to Parcells leaving for the Jets. Because of that, Carroll was hired to be just the coach and pretty much Kraft/Grier were in charge. Kraft learned from his mistakes with Parcells and Carroll which is why Belichick has had free reign for 20 plus years. Carroll just needed a chance to be himself and make his own decisions, the Seahawks were that chance.
The Erickson thing bubble screen is so interesting because how many coaches try to force things to work their way and it simply doesnt work in the pros. And others seem to get intimidated by it. He's probably in that latter group if he wasn't willing to be innovative.
“These coaches just didn’t know how to deal with professional football players.” (Shows “professional” football players fumbling, punting the ball at the centre’s backside, being unprofessional)
That's the point. Pro's aren't perfect, NFL Follies is proof of that. It takes a patient coach to work with failure as much as they work with success. Bill Belichick won 6 rings in New England but he wasn't perfect, he made some really bad personnel decisions that prevented them from winning a 7th.
Feel like this should have been a top 7 or a top 5. One of the very few honourable mentions they had was a super bowl winner But god the top 7 definitely were worth making the list
I'm not sure who that person on color commentary talking was around 39:15-39:20, but, what he said was 100% correct. I was in the first semester of my Senior year of high school in late-2007 & I was surprised to hear the news of Bobby Petrine giving the Atlanta Falcons his notice of resignation. On top of that, I'm not even an Atlanta Falcons fan & I was just as shocked as the next person in line who follows the NFL outside of whatever NFL team/teams you're a fan of, but, that's another story for another time...
Text above the comment says: "This episode originally aired in 2008". (But people still keep making the same comments about Pete Carroll not belonging on the list.) Everyone single person watching the video knows he has since won the Super Bowl. Just enjoy the immense irony of the idiots talking about him as if he will never make it in the NFL. You don't have to make a DUH! YEAH! Of Course! comment too. Please. For the love of all that remains holy in these unholy times.
Your right it does say it aired in 08, however at 8:42 the guy speaking says “in 2010 Pete Carroll returned to the nfl” or some form of that so there is no way this came out in 08
Chip Kelly needs to replace Pete Carroll on this list.
He did in an updated version.
@@notoriouseagle1074 Haven't seen that one yet. I know for a hot minute Greg Schiano took Carrolls spot. But indeed Chip Kellys spot should forever be secured.
This was made b4 chip Kelly became an NFL coach
He is not doing well in UCLA
Derek Ruff I bet they regret putting him here now
PS not a Seahawks fan
When Urban Meyer inevitably gets added to this, they're gonna have to talk about him being grinded on in a bar after a loss.
That’s exactly what I’m here for lol! He’s definitely worthy of this more than John McKay
@@Giratina1999 They do update these lists every now and then. Like for the Pete Carroll segment in this upload, the mentioning of his hiring by the Seahawks and winning that wildcard game against the Saints was an update. Eventually, Carroll was removed entirely from the list and replaced with Greg Schiano.
But, but, but I'm pretty sure that was his WIFE, so I'm pretty sure it's perfectly ok.
He just got fired
This aged wonderfully
Dat Pete carrol pick looks crazy now😂
If they redo this episode, he and McKay should be replaced by Chip Kelly and Greg Schiano. Maybe not in the same spots though
They also put Andrew luck on the top ten number 12s list after his rookie year
The Carroll segment was dropped when this episode was updated and replaced with Greg Schiano
they literally showed that he’s been good w the seahawks
@Mark Rutgers X head coach he had ray rice
John McKay??? The dude was put in a situation where he had to build a team from scratch with players not good enough to play anywhere else….then led the 0-26 Bucs to the NFC championship game 2 years later and lost by 3 pts to a team that almost beat the Steel Curtain
Great coaches don't go 0-26. Sorry. And did you see what happened for McKay after Doug Williams left the Bucs? A whole lot of nothing. He was not a good NFL coach.
@@encycl07pedia- your take is over simplistic and shit. First of all, Doug Williams was by no means a great quarterback, he was at besset okay one. Second of all, how many NFL coaches have been super successful without a great quarterback? You should probably stop having football takes.
I bet Hue Jackson was like… I’m going to be just like John McKay. Lololol
Seriously. It wasn't even a normal expansion teams. The rules they had for adding the Bucs basically gave him practice squad players and within four years he won a division title and went the championship conference. And he was cool as hell. That's a bad call.
@@encycl07pedia- any HC would've struggled with the Expansion Buccs
John McKay does NOT deserve to be on this list. He took over an expansion team, back when the rules were much harder to be an expansion team, and had them in the playoffs by their 4th season. Then they made the playoffs 4 straight years. That success would have continued had The Bucs paid Doug Williams, they didn’t, Williams jumps to the USFL and The Bucs were w/o a QB again for his last two seasons.
It’s a shame he is on this list and really doesn’t deserve to be because if he would have stepped into a situation that say, Barry Switzer stepped into he would have lost very few games.
He clearly knew what he was doing, he just didn't have the support. Imagine what he would have done if he had ownership like they had in San Fran in the 80's or New England with the Krafts?
You get some rest because some of his ineptitude in the beginning of how he thought he could coach even some of the players admit that he had this arrogance about him thinking that he could actually coach when he found out he was in a totally different thing that anyone's at USC. He eventually learned from his mistakes and it started to build a pretty good team it was untimely ownership that was his downfall and not responding Doug Williams and have him being paid the 54th quarterback. Ownership prettymuchit but sunk the Buccaneers from most of its time it was only till later when ownership changed over it when the Bucs got better. Let's not forget John McKay son Rich McKay what's the GM that created those super bowl-winning Bucs and the late 90s version as well. He got 2 Hall of Famers in one draft
@@BTLAGS what coach didn’t show “ineptitude” at the start of an expansion team? He was never not a good coach in Tampa Bay. It takes a long time to build and he did that from day 1.
Williams didn’t even really ask to “get paid.” He simply asked to make more than the 12 I think it was backups in the league who made more than him. Hugh Culverhouse is who wouldn’t do it, not McKay.
Agreed. Vince Lombardi would've had trouble winning with the '76-'77 Bucs.
“Hell of a lot careers gonna end Monday”. “Well we didn’t block well, but we made up for it by not tackling” McKay was hilarious 😆
I wish they published a book of his quotes
"What did you think of the execution of your offence?"
"I'd be all for it." They'll never be another like McKay in the NFL
@@jackmiller-johnston8689 maybe 3 or 4 more plane crashes we'll get a championship
"We've proven we can't play on the road or in front of our own crowd. We'd like to have a neutral site."
@@ReflectionOfPerfection "Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but she can't play football worth a damn"
Maybe most underrated one nowadays: "Maybe that will distract the Falcon quarterback." -- McKay once threatened to show up naked for a game against the Atlanta Falcons. What a hero.
Nick Saban: the ultimate liar and contract breaker
Bobby Petrino: Hold My Beer
Funny thing is Saban with a 2nd chance could make it in the NFL if learns from his mistakes as Pete Carrol did other wise he would washout again. But I dont see saban leaving alabama unless an NCAA violation has been commited to where suspensions and investigations would be done. Everyone forgets Carrol left when USC was about to get a Train run on it by the NCAA. Chip Kelly Left oregon back in 2013 because they were in trouble.
@@BTLAGS what did Oregon do exactly?
@@flockawaka1017 they were some NCAA violations with recruiting and recruits getting certain things that were deemed not with the guidelines of NCAA. I don't recall on top of my head what happened but if you're probably Googled it and could probably find it
I was just about to bring up Petrino. Thank you for saving me from that
Petrino is just a sorry excuse of a human being
It’s unbelievable HOW OLD this video is and where these actual rankings should be now. With Pete Carroll being the prime example and some people see him as one of the best coaches in the NFL for the past 10 years.
He was a coach on the NFL 2010s all-decade team, along with Bill Belichick! Lol
I literally audibly started laughing when I heard his name. What a joke
@@bigpapi6688 let us see how him and the Seattle Seahawks do post Russell Wilson!
Let's be honest most of us are a little to young for Pete Carroll the college coach I only knew this man as the Seahawks coach like I remember seeing him on the sideline in his first couple of years and it just made sense
@@animered9575 "most of us" I remember Pete Carroll as the Patriots' coach.
Petrino doesn't belong as a coach on ANY level.
39:15 "Bobby Petrino, the only guy that could make Nick Saban look like he's on house arrest."
Couldn't have said it better myself.
What happened with Petrino was horrendous.. but as they mention, he was a mess from Day One. Does any of that bad hire responsibility fall on Arthur Blank and Rich McKay?
0:59 John McKay.
5:21 Pete Carroll*.
9:26 Dick MacPherson.
13:12 Nick Saban.
16:28 Dennis Erickson.
20:39 Bill Peterson.
24:09 Bud Wilkinson.
28:16 Steve Spurrier.
33:10 Lou Holtz.
38:59 Bobby Petrino.
*= Pete Carroll was replaced with Greg Schiano on this list after winning Super Bowl XLVIII with the Seattle Seahawks.
Lou Holtz should've been number one.
replace john mckay with chip kelly.
@@TonyArceneaux-uu3cf
No. Holtz tried. Petrino....
Matt Rhule and Urban Meyer would make it if they ever make this show again. Most don’t even remember matt’s name.
With ✈️ Pete Carroll was never given a chance
New England Pete Carroll inherited talent from 🍣 following 🏈🏆 xxxi
Seattle Paul Allen gives Pete Carroll full liberty on draft picks free agency signings without his interference
McKay shouldn’t be on this list. He did a good job after the first two seasons.... those only happened because he was stuck in an impossible situation.
Daniel Faircloth Agree with you.
He built the Buccaneers out of scratch with grade D players and a cheap owner. He had to draft and coach well just to last as long as he did. Mind you no free agency, limited draft scouting, no salary cap, complete reliance on the draft to retool the franchise. When the Houston Texans came into the league 2002 they were a salary cap dumping ground because a couple teams had good players with High salaries while the Buccaneers got everyone nobody wanted who couldnt play. The seahawks in 76 got Jim Zorn, Steve Largent and Mike Curtis
He had TWO winning seasons in his 9 seasons in Tampa. He was 44-88-1 in his nfl career. He certainly belongs on this list
He seemed so nice. I'm gonna read up on him. Thanks!
@@stevep8445 listen to video. Wasn't his fault. Stuck with it. Wasn't abusive. Heroic.
Dick MacPherson was a very nice and generous man. His brother was our parish priest during the 70's. We had a large group of fathers and sons travel to Macomb, IL to watch Dick's UMASS team play Western IL. Also had the pleasure of meeting again when he was the defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns. He and several coaches had dinner at the parish rectory the day prior to playing the Cardinals in St Louis. He provided dozens of tickets for many of us to attend the game.
Hopefully the priest stayed far away from the kids.
Out McKay and Carroll, in Chip Kelly and Greg Schiano who almost got punched in the face by Tom Coughlin.
Coughlin everyone forgets he coached at BC not a good football school in Massachusetts more of a Hockey school and he has accolades galore. Coughlin's style worked because he was a pro coach through and through and discipline was a staple of him along with coaching
No question Greg needed to keep chopping wood in Piscataway. I have no clue what this guy showed at the college level......I mean it was a nice accomplishment for Jersey, but it's not like Rutgers was in the Big 10 or some football powerhouse conference. It remains to be seen if Matt Ruhle will make it to this list, but I was really surprised Ruhle brought Ed Foley to coach in the pros.
Don't get me wrong, Ed Foley coached my 8th grade rec league basketball team. He's a great guy. But, I just can't see how his rah-rah style translates. Surprised Ruhle went that route, but I'm very happy for Ed......as we all know what his brother Glenn was able to accomplish at Boston College and having a decent 5 year NFL career. Hope it works out.
@@NeumsFor9 Urban Meyer on his way to easily crack the top 3...
@@jean-francoispilote5751 You know how bad Urban Meyer was? Hue Jackson as the Browns head coach had more wins than Urban did. And he went winless one season(!!!).
Urban Meyer is #1 now. At least Petrino won more games than him. 3 wins vs. 2 wins.
petrino is still worse, urban would be #2
@@r3tr0actiongamer24 Nah, man, Petrino was self-aware enough to run away. Urban was stupid enough to force his apathetic owner to step in and fire him.
Also, Petrino never kicked his own kicker.
@@BeastOfMetal1989 So Petrino wasn't fired he just quit, which makes me believe that he would've at least finished his first season in the NFL
@@MChuck- Based on a conversation that Arthur Blank recounted to the media, it sounds like Petrino was going to get at least part of a second season to see if he could fix things due to Michael Vick's arrest screwing up the team's plans for 2007.
The only thing that makes Meyer #2 was that Petrino slithered off into the night with three games left. Meyer was way too vein for that.
Bobby Petrino will forever be a low class, pompous, coward for what he did.
Only silver lining for that season was it got Atlanta Matt Ryan.
That name will always be a curse in Falcons country, a tratior,liar,turncoat if this was medvial times he would be in the guillotine and " OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!! 😡😡😡
I feel like the university that hired him, Arkansas, should've gotten some kinda divine punishment as well. How can you hire someone that just quits on his team like that?
@@ComputerJunkie00 I feel like I should quote Vikings coach Mike Zimmer (who, ironically enough, was the Falcons Defensive Coordinator during that season) when it comes to Bobby Petrino: "He's a gutless bastard, quote that I don't give a shit!"
@@ComputerJunkie00 Arkansas did suffer and are still suffering. As well as they should
@@mahmoud6843 We don't deserve the punishment. We've suffered more than enough since Petrino got tossed. Me and other Hog fans are thankful Pittman is making them competitive again.
Me: Pete Carrol??
Me: "sees this was made in 2009"
Me: oh
same
2008*
It had to be 2011, because they talk about him coming to Seattle in 2010, making playoffs and upsetting the Saints.
Matt Rhule and Urban Meyer would be on an updated version of this list
And Chip Kelly
Urban Meyer is a no-brainet
Don’t forget the Cardinals HC that took Josh Rosen…
Honorable mention of Cliff Kingsbury. He wasn’t even good in college and only got hired cause he coached Patrick Mahomes lol.
@@LSTNSCRFNsteve wilks?
"Bobby Petrino: The only guy that can make Nick Saban look like he's on house arrest.".
Agreed...
Oh, if only they could see Pete Carrol now 🤪
Jared Wright I was saying the same thing
Tom Curran said it in the video; in another situation Pete Carol would be successful
I'm a green bay fan, so fuxk pete... but hes inarguably a top 5 coach of the 2010s. Top 5 coach going into the 20s. But fuck that guy and his team
I would replace him on this list with Jim Harbaugh
@@EricK-no5np that's not saying much in terms of the quality of coaches in the NFL. If Joe Gibbs and Bill Parcells and the like we're still in the NFL, Pete Carroll would be the middle of the pack.
Replace John McKay and Pete Carroll with Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer.
And 1 more with Matt Rhule
What John McKay did in Tampa Bay... what he endured and what he achieved... it should be considered nothing short of a Herculean act of will. I'm fine that he's on this list, because he probably would have continued to flourish in college, but I can't think of a coach that suffered the slings and arrows of the NFL worse and still managed to build a competitive team.
Winning even one game under Hugh Culverhouse's ownership is a small reward in lieu of combat pay.
Bobby Petrino quit on the Falcons I'll never forget that
@Harry Engel like Bobby Petrino didn't finish the season and then leaving a letter coward
Petrino almost seemed like he had a compulsion to break contracts and burn bridges. He ditched his job as the Jags OC to go to Auburn without telling his boss Tom Coughlin. He tried to nab the job of Auburn head coach away from his former boss, Tommy Tuberville, while still at Louisville - and straight-up lied about it until Auburn confirmed it. He ditched Louisville 6 months after signing a 10-year extension, leaving within days of a bowl win. And of course the whole debacle with the Falcons and Arkansas. And that doesn't include the numerous confirmed and many rumored attempts to get other jobs.
What a guy.
Bossdon83Drizzydre2733 Primetime7128 at least saban and spurrier finished out the season
@@chrisuncleahmad Nah no Beef with Steve he was cool but, Nick Saban he pulled a coward move as well he was like he wasn't talking to them knew good and damn well he was should have just been honest bout it
Bossdon83Drizzydre2733 Primetime7128 still at least he Waited until after the season to leav unlike Petrino.
Probably an honorable mention at most but Dirk Koetter should be a consideration given that he was the coach that started the Boise State “dynasty run” from the late 90s. After an average stint at ASU and a few good seasons as OC with the Falcons, he flunked hard with Tampa Bay Buccaneers that eventually gave them Bruce Arians and Tom Brady along with a Super Bowl LV win!
Matt Rhule I think would be a perfect candidate on the list.
Nick Saban would be a great coach in the NFL, let’s not forget that when Brees was a free agent Saban wanted to sign Brees but dolphins management wouldn’t let him , and instead signed Daunte Culpepper . If Saban had his way and was able to run the team how he wanted to I believe he would have been a good coach.
He is an expert in NON pro style offenses and would seriously struggle just like so many of his great college quarterbacks did in the NFL because they just could not transition to pro style offenses.
nah, he's only a masterful recruiter and a total douchebag otherwise, you can't have 15 first round picks in the NFL therefore Saban will fail every time.
Bellichek thinks very highly of Saban as a pro coach. Their time together in Cleveland was the best they've been in 30 years. Saban would be just fine with the right players. That goes for any coach in the league. Does anyone think all of the Lions coaches just can't coach? It's about the Jimmy's and Joe's not the X's and O's.
@@Bravo-Too-Much Coach Saban literally runs pro style offenses
@@mikeschmidt4800 nope.. belichick is the exception..saban and his ilk may never find the way back..kingsbury is stinking, Matt rhule, urban meyer maybe the worst..I think nfl teams will exhaust every option before turning to a college coach since so many have sucked
Pete Carroll is now a NFL and College legend
😂😂😂 a NFL legend for wetting the bed and giving the Patriots an undeserving Superbowl ring
McKay knew that in the time before free agency the team would suck for a long time. He told the owners that. That's why he could joke. He wasn't under a modern "Win, win now or be fired" situation like NFL coaches are now. He didn't feel any pressure to win and win right then. He most likely saw every loss as a learning experience. As long as the team got better and didn't make the same mistakes repeatedly he was cool with losing.
Pre free agency, but also in pre salary cap era you had to move heaven and earth to turn a team around. Before the cap if the Cowboys, Redskins, or 49ers got a good batch of players, they held onto them till they were no longer good. Good teams hoarded backup quarterbacks who were better than half the starters in the league. The good teams could stay good for 10 years and if you whiffed on a draft pick it could haunt you just as long.
This list needs to be re-done, move McKay off the list, add Urban Meyer and put him at 2!!! Even Holtz was better than Meyer, reportedly kicking the kicker
I think both McKay and MacPherson were put into unfair situations. Both of them had two of the worst ownerships in the NFL in the 80s, early 90s.
@Fries Carroll was a Jets coach. Only few of the coaches won there. And situation at New England was awful after SB and Parcells' departure, Kraft wanted to be Jerry Jones and didn't know nothinhg about football. Plus, lockerroom was toxic then. Even Belichick had problems in first 2 seasons when he came....
@@sikecar534 Kraft years later admitted he screwed up by trying to take over. It cost him Parcells and put Carroll in an unwinnable situation.
@@ReflectionOfPerfectionI know, I'm a Pats fan. Kraft and Parcells butted heads over personell decisions as Big Tuna didn't commit himself on the long run to NE. There was too much ego and not enough talking face-to-face.
Carroll was a victim of those circumstances. Even Belichick didn't win in his 1st season.
@@sikecar534 Belichick had to pay for the sins of Bobby Grier as GM his first year. He had no 1st round pick, Katzenmoyer went AWOL, Terry Glenn was a nutcase, Armstrong was washed up and Bledsoe was declining. They lucked into Brady becoming God no doubt, but Belichick literally built the dynasty almost from scratch.
@@ReflectionOfPerfection exatcly. And people are moaning on last season as that was entire on BB and that TB12 saved him. And thet he's not the winning coach. 🤣
If you watch A Football life - Cleveland '95., you'll see same traits of BB there.
This list SO needs to be updated with Urban Meyer being at number 1 over Bobby Petrino!
As many others have said, McKay doesn't belong on this list anymore (nor does Carroll). The Cleveland Browns weren't an expansion team, and they won one game in the span of two seasons. That makes the Bucs losing streak look good in comparison. And quite hilariously, all time flameout Urban Meyer does belong on the list. Also, I'm surprised Gene Stallings wasn't on this list.
What people forget is how successful Spurrier was as a pro coach in the USFL.
I forgot what team he coached in the USFL.
@@kevinpayton2664 Tampa Bay Bandits usfl
@@BTLAGS I used to have a game program my older cousin originally bought from a Boston Breakers/Bandits game. Wrestling champion Ron Simmons was on that Bandits team.
who gives a shit
I can imagine how gratifying the comeuppance all the Falcon players and personnel felt watching how Petrino got sacked at Arky. Had to be euphoric.
I don't have anything against Bobby Petrino as a person, but I agree with you 100%. The fact that he leaves Atlanta only after 13 games just makes no sense at all.
@@brandonmorris92he should have finished the season!
An updated version of this list in December 2021...
10. Greg Schiano
9. Chip Kelly
8. Nick Saban
7. Dennis Erickson
6. Bill Peterson
5. Bud Wilkinson
4. Steve Spurrier
3. Urban Meyer
2. Lou Holtz
1. Bobby Petrino
Move Meyer to #1 and you have your ten.
Peterson should be top 3. Holtz won 3 games in less than a season and has a brain. Bill Peterson was 1-18 and was an idiot at the pro level.
@@macofalltrades6396 Bill wasn't an idiot, but he was hopelessly out of his depth, had minimal communication skills, and having effectively a semi-pro Oilers team that led disgusted fans to flip off the camera and walk out of the stadium on Monday Night Football didn't help.
@@MRB16th That team did have some talent - Pastorini, Elvin Bethea, Kenny Houston, Bill Curry to name a few - but there obviously wasn't a core to the team until Bum Phillips arrived, and that's totally on Peterson. Sid Gillman took over when Peterson got to 1-18 and did what he could, but the crater there took three years to fill.
@@macofalltrades6396 I only knew of Belthea and Pastorini off the top of my head: with them, Kenny Houston and Bill Curry on his roster, it beggars belief the Oilers were such a putrid team.
Bill Peterson had absolutely no idea whatsoever how to use these talented players.
"We can't stop a pass or a run, otherwise we're in great shape" lol McKay that was good.
His humor is timeless. Once, he said to reporters, "You don't know the difference between a football and bananas." The next day, the reporters gave him bananas, and McKay's response? "You don't know the difference between a football and a Mercedes-Benz." 😁
Urban Meyer should be added to this list after the gong show season that Jacksonville is having this year
You can also put Chip Kelly on this list too
@@phillyfan-182 Well I would knock McKay and Carroll off this list and put Kelly at 10. Just because he did have the 10 win seasons in 2013 and 2014.
By 2015 though he just looked like a guy who didn’t know how to run a team anymore.
To this day it still shocks me the Niners hired him! Right away I knew that was going to be a disaster and kept thinking to myself…”The Niners are team on a decline and need a new young head coach to try and rebuild themselves. How in the world does Chip Kelly make any sense???”
12 years on and swapping Pete Carroll for Chip Kelly is like a total no-brainer.
If he continues his winning ways with Russell Wilson say, the next 4 years averaging 9 wins a year, the guy will just be outside the top 10 right under Knox in regular season wins. He's only 5 away from being in the top 20, 11 of whom are in the hall of fame with two I firmly believe will be there one day in Belichick and Reid.
Chip had that one really good season. I think that he's a little to good to be on this list but not by too much.
Herm Edwards...he should try coaching to win the game.
I’m a UCLA fan, but Pete deserves some respect and I’m happy he won a SB 💯😎
It never gets old watching Bill Peterson LMFAO, "since we are in this kind of situation let's go third down punt" LMFAO
Bill Peterson's pre-game speech at 23:20 may be the greatest pep talk of all time. Wow!
We need an updated list with Urban Meyer on it...
20:44-20:51 this had me dying at work. "Bill was terrible!" 🤣🤣🤣😍🤣
Remember Hue Jackson in Cleveland? Almost the same thing
@@ReflectionOfPerfection did Hue Jackson coach in college?
@@actionjackson4982 Yes, though in positional roles - he has been hired as the head coach at Grambling State for 2022.
One quote describes Bill Peterson: “I cannot fathom what is going on in your mind, you talk absolute utter nonsense”- Gordon Ramsay
Like something straight out of a Three Stooges sketch
And now the number one coach who belonged in college: URBAN MEYER
Urban Meyer has to be number 1 now
Tom Coughlin: Built Boston College into a competitive team, and engineered one of the greatest upsets in all of professional sports
Jimmy Johnson: 1 college championship and 2 Super Bowls with the Cowboys
Dick Vermeil: Led UCLA to an upset in the Rose Bowl and commanded the Greatest Show on Turf
And really Jimmy Johnson should have won 3 national titles
@@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 i mean he did. the NCAA recognizes major polls outside of the AP and Coaches. and some schools have claimed national titles this way. ex: Ole Miss in 1960, Ohio State in 1961, Notre Dame & Arkansas in 1964, Ohio State in 1970, UCF in 2017, etc. a major poll recognized Miami as national champions in 1986, 1987, and 1988.
Dick Vermeil also took Philadelphia Eagles to a Super Bowl as well. Had Vermeil stayed with Philly he might have had 2 Super Bowl titles.
@@Fnoel98356 I already know that Dick led the Eagles to Super Bowl 15, I was just reflecting what this episode said he accomplished in college and the pros
Nobody butchered the English language more then Bill Peterson. " I want you to stand on the helmet with your sideline under your arm." "If you think I'm gonna take another loss standing down." English instructors would have fired him before the semester ended!! #OMG
I thought that honor went to Yogi Berra and Casey Stengel. And they won while doing it
“I’m the coach around here and don’t you remember it!”
@@eddixon2015 LOL
@@survivor5044 he actually said that 😂
@@eddixon2015 OMG! That's hilarious! I wish they had Peterson's post game press conferences. That would be a barrel of laughs.
I guess we can officially update to include Urban Meyer??.
Thank God this is on You Tube......All I need is the Bill Petersen footage!!!😂😂😆😆🤣🤣😄😄😂😂😆😆🤣🤣😄😄❗❗❗❗❗❗
lol yeah when I'm having a bad day I go to this and go right to Bill Peterson "since we are in this kind of situation let's go third down punt"🤣🤣🤣
10. John McCay: doesn’t deserve to be here. TB was an expansion franchise and by year 4 they were in NFC Championship
9. Pete Carroll: pre-Seahawks era, yes. Today, no. He needed to find the right fit and Seattle is it for him
8. Dick MacPherson: too small of a sample size to really judge him, also missed games because he was ill. Ron Meyer would’ve been a better choice. Had success at UNLV and Pony Express SMU, left for NE in 1982, 54-50 record with 2 NFL teams (NE, IND), made the playoffs twice (both were strike shortened years), fired by the Patriots due to issues between him & team, fired by Colts after making trade to get Jeff George in the draft
7. Nick Saban: His first year, 9-7, came within a game of winning the AFC East. Year two, last place in the division (6-10). A lot of people are pointing out that there were issues with the front office over whether to sign Drew Brees, who was coming off a shoulder injury that many teams were unsure about. Maybe at 10/Best of the Rest
6. Dennis Erickson: definitely deserves to be on this list, probably higher because of two opportunities in the NFL (SEA & SF) and he bombed badly
5. Bill Peterson: just for the NFL Films sound bites alone and how bad the Oilers in 1972-73 were
4. Bud Wilkinson: should’ve stayed retired instead of trying to break into the NFL with the Cardinals of all teams
3. Steve Spurrier: Everyone knows why Spurrier was hired as the [FOOTBALL TEAM]’s head coach. Dan Snyder didn’t like Marty Ball after 1 season (8-8 season after starting 0-5) so he drove a dump truck of money down to Florida and parked it in front of Spurrier’s house. Spurrier even admits that he didn’t do due diligence in researching the WSH job. He assumed that there would be a personnel guy hired but all decisions would be made by Dan Snyder (what a surprise). Again, dump truck of money can cloud anyone’s judgement. One of several examples of Snyder running the [FOOTBALL TEAM] but Spurrier is worthy of being #3
2. Lou Holtz: I don’t think anyone knows/remembers that Lou Holtz coached in the NFL since he is so associated with college, especially Notre Dame. Yeah… trying to bring the college spirit to the NFL (especially with a fight song) just won’t fly. Barely one forgettable season with the NYJ (3-10)
1. Bobby Petrino: Oh definitely worthy of the #1 ranking. In his defense, that was the season where Michael Vick was busted for a dog fighting ring in VA (lived an hour away from there when I was stationed in VA, remember a shipyard worker had a cartoon of Vick facing a jury of his peers that was composed of famous cartoon dogs), but still! He could’ve rode the season out, ended up with a high draft pick for the 2008 draft (Falcons had #3 pick & took Matt Ryan), but nope. He was negotiating his escape plan while telling everyone “I’m here for the long term.” Then he goes to Arkansas, drives that program into the ditch, gets caught having an affair when the motorcycle accident is more than what happened. He then goes to WKY where they put all kinds of stipulations on if he leaves (surprise, he lasts one season there). And then he crawls back to Louisville for a second stint there that is pretty much buoyed by Lamar Jackson until the bottom falls out in 2018 with 2-8 record & 0-7 ACC record. Currently he is at FCS Missouri State. May Petrino never be considered for an NFL gig ever again. Likely will stay here until Urban Meyer leaves the Jaguars for USC/Florida State/Texas/Nebraska/some other college team waiting for their savior.
As an Arkansas fan, Petrino didn't run the program into the ground. In his last 2 yrs, we went a combined 21-5 with our lone BCS bowl appearance and a victory in the Cotton Bowl. He turned us into an offensive juggernaut. The program collapse started the moment he got on his motorcycle. Fortunately, we've overcome the years-long fallout from that motorcycle crash.
Agreed, I'd add Urban Meyer to the list (I have reasons for him wanting to fail partly because of the whole deal with Aaron Hernandez among others) and Doug Marrone.
IIRC, Marrone only had two winning seasons as an NFL head coach (his second and last year with the Bills) and the Cinderella year the Jaguars had back in '17. Kinda lethargic at best and Bills fans won't forgive him for jumping ship. But we wouldn't have gotten McDermott and Beane had he stuck around. That said, I'm waiting on McBeane to get the RB/OL game straightened out.
Only reason I'd list McKay is that I think he went into it with the attitude that it would be a walk in the park not realizing that he was set up for failure. But he did give us those one-liners and one of the NFL's more interesting GMs/Presidents. And Spurrier would have never gone into coaching had it been for that '76 season. Some food for thought.
I'll also add Jim Harbaugh to the list. While he did had three consecutive NFC championship appearances, he was also easy to hate as an NFL coach. The fact that there's at least three Secret Base (SB Nation) videos on beefs that people had with him speaks volumes.
Petrino is a piss stain.
Agreed. Saban, MacPherson, Carroll, and most of all McKay don’t belong on this list.
@@patrickthomas8890 Saban definitely does he was bad as a coach and didn’t connect with his players
Even before Seattle, Carroll doesn't deserve to be on this list. Guy was never even a head coach in college until he went to USC after the Patriots. People act like he fell into the Jets HC job. He'd been the Def. Coordinator there for the previous 4 years, and a NFL assistant for 6 more years before that. By the time he took over the Jets, he was more NFL assistant than college assistant. This list is revisionist history when it comes to him and his time with the Jets and Pats. Listening to shtheads like Andy Benoit pretend to know anything about anything is another reason why NFL films should wait until there's dirt on the grave before adding coaches to this list. Same thing as having Andy Reid on their top 10 coaches to never win a super bowl list.
The segment on Pete Carroll shows the danger of including active personnel in these lists. Writing this in 2020, the view of Pete Carroll's pro career looks very different from when this show was originally aired.
When this episode aired, Pete was at USC and at the heigh of its dynasty. No one, me included thought he would ever return to the nfl.
The other thing about Carroll that cracks me up here, is listening to these guys talk as if Carroll left college and just fell into that job with the Jets in 1994. He had been a NFL assistant for the PREVIOUS 10 YEARS before being the Jets Head Coach, including being the Defensive Coordinator with NYJ the previous 4 years. Had spent virtually the same amount of time as a NFL assistant coach than he had a college head coach by the time he took over the Jets.
Urban Meyer deserves number 1 after his disgrace in Jacksonville that lasted less then one year.
one issue... that would mean that he was a credible college coach to begin with
@@drunkreapermatt he was. He won 3 national championships
Bobby petrino won a national title... Doesn't mean he's any good
On the list, yes. But Petrino quit. Meyer was fired. Big difference.
@@stevensather5911 Yeah that is why Petrino will always be number one. In addition to quitting, he also flat out lied to Arthur Blank's face he told him he had a coach and then less than 12 hours later, he bolts the Atlanta Falcons to the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Bill Peterson!! Come on Alvin!!! 😂🤣
I recommend reading Pastorini's book. A few pages cover the Peterson debacle. He was a train wreck. But it is some funny stuff.
Who’s here after Urban Meyer got fired? Should he be above Bobby Petrino as number 1 now?
Well now you can add Urban Meyer to the updated list
Barry Switzer absolutely deserves to be on this list the man was dropped into a fantastic situation and although he did “win” a Super Bowl it’s not like he was a good coach the dude couldn’t make it past the divisional round and lost to an expansion team at that you put him in the same scenario as that Bucs coach I doubt he would do better
If McKay, McPherson, and Carroll are removed from the list, it's a toss up of whether Switzer, Butch Davis, or Ron Meyer (SMU/Pats/Colts) gets the 10th spot along with the addition of Schiano and Urban Meyer.
EDIT: I forgot about Chip Kelly. Maybe he should be on this list
I completely understand what you’re saying but if they did remake this list, I highly doubt Switzer would be on it just for the fact that he was only with Dallas four seasons, won the NFC East three of those seasons as well as a Super Bowl. But I do agree, Barry Switzer was more of a caretaker than a head coach, Troy Aikman helped organize that team more than Switzer ever did.
NFL Network: "How can you put a coach that won a superbowl on this list?"
You can do it by realizing that he inherited an amazing situation and accepting the hundreds of anecdotes from people inside the program that switzer did almost no coaching and had nothing to do with their success.
It's really not hard.
They should update this list with Urban Meyer at #1
I live in Arkansas. When I showed my mom the Petrino clip, she was shocked about how the Razorbacks landed Petrino as a HC. I showed it to her sometime after his infamous 2012 motorcycle crash. Before that, she had no clue about his short tenure with the Falcons.
The Hogs, in a way, still haven't recovered. There were signs of hope between 2014 and mid to late 2016, but from the end of 2016 on, we've been at the bottom of the barrel in the SEC.
People warned us (Arkansas) about Petrino. Sadly, we didn't listen.
@Michael Lowery We weren't at the bottom when Petrino got here.
Arkansas is showing signs of recovering, but it will take a long time more to recover from that hire and you can't forget that megalomaniac owner Jerry Jones taking a home game from Arkansas to play it in Jerry World because he is a big booster as well as the two different home stadiums in Fayetteville and Little Rock have done some harm as well.
@@b.d.cooper8671 Honestly, I feel like we've fully recovered. We're beating teams we're suppose to beat and we're getting wins against the big boys (maybe not Bama and Georgia, but those below them).
Plus, Little Rock games have been played forever and the program has been just fine in spite of that. I hope the LR games never go away. It would be a major blow to fans in central, southern, and eastern AR. Not everyone is willing to drive 5-6 hrs to Fayetteville. That's the case with me living in South Arkansas.
@@finchborat I know that history is a hard thing to get rid of, but I wonder how the NCAA does classify those games and how it affects recruit visits. And with the NIL on the horizon, you guys are going to have to work to ensure Alabama, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, etc. don't steal recruits as they have the money and program success.
My Mom is from Wheatley Arkansas and my Dad is from Cottonplant... When I heard that coward took the job there, I was sick for the entire state... You deserved much better than that scumbag
McKay’s son Rich was the GM for the 2002 Buccaneers 🏴☠️ that won SBXXXVII
They had the NFL’s number one defense thanks to 3 hall of fame players on their roster
John lynch at strong Safety
Derrick Brooks at Outside Linebacker (2002 DPOY)
Warren Sapp at Defensive Tackle
And Rich built the Falcons team that went 28-3, and we'll leave it at that.
J.K. only got to play on the inaugural Bucs squad but has mostly been an attorney and doing a little work in the semi-pros as GM of the LA Xtreme of the original XFL and head of football ops for the AAF.
Rich mckay was cool should be mentioned as one of the great gms that any team would love to have
Now it’s four because Ronde Barber got accepted in the HOF.
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I never thought he’d be inducted
But I’m glad he is
14 year ago I thought that Bobby Petrino is the worst NFL head coach that belong in the college ranks but 14 years later I was wrong it is Urban Meyer, he is worse than him, Urban Meyer is number 1 and Bobby Petrino is number 2 on that list
Unless Urban Meyer gets a college coaching job in the next couple of days after getting fired by Jacksonville, then he’s number #1. It’s evenly close between him and Bobby Petrino.
Been looking for this!!! Best is Bill Peterson.... the George W. Bush of NFL head coaches.... “3 Words Men: Super Bowl” and “I want you stand on your helmets with the sidelines under your arms.”
Bill Peterson makes Rich Kotie a genius.
When I heard him speak I was cracking up
Sounds more like the current buffoon-in-chief. Two words: Made in America.
Both Urban Meyer and Matt Rhule DESERVES to be on this list.
11:34 Scarrnechia was on the Pats in 1991. He just retired this year. He's been with the team for over 3 DECADES. That is insane.
He's pretty much Mr Patriot Hall of Fame offensive line coach who could make good offensive lineman out of decent offense of lineman. Scarnecchia definitely deserves to be in the Patriots Hall of Fame as a coach or contributor.
2010 - The 7-9 Seahawks beat the defending champion Saints at home in the 1st round. Way to go Pete Carroll!
That’s one of the biggest upsets in nfl history
@@retepoteil Yeah it honestly doesn't get its due. This is a team that year 1 didnt look much like the squad from Mora, and year 2 looks even more different following that playoff run. Even if the Saints weren't as good as their SB team, they were a better team. They'd even beat up on that Hawks team iirc earlier in the season. That was to me Hasselbecks, who is probably underrated in history as well for his work in Tenn and as a backup in Indy, finest hour even if its remembered for the beast quake.
I really wish Pete Carroll the year the Seahawks won the Superbowl had said "Superbowl winning head coach. Not bad for a guy who belonged in college"
He's too nice of a guy to say that. Rodney Harrison would have said that for sure.
I came here to check for Urban Meyer comments and I was NOT disappointed
The easiest decision you can ever make to a list in the history of lists is changing Pete Carol with Urban Meyer
List definitely needs to be updated:
1. Urban Meyer
2. Bobby Petrino
3. Bill Peterson
4. Bud Wilkinson
5. Greg Schiano
6. Lou Holtz
7. Steve Spurrier
8. Chip Kelly
9. Lane Kiffin
10. Nick Saban
Honorable mentions: Butch Davis, Dennis Erickson, Dick Macpherson, Dan Devine, Mike Riley, Ray Perkins, Matt Rhule
It may sound reactionary and recency bias, but Urban Meyer is #1 now
Lou Holtz and Steve Spurier was not great fit in NFL. I don't think they could make it any era in the NFL. Both them were made for collage.
The same college too apparently haha
Spurrier was pretty good in the USFL
9:30. Read the scroll. Troy Polamulu was a prophet. "Eventually [rule changes are] going to start taking away from the essence of this game." He was so right.
Soon as Vick wasn't going to be QB in Atlanta, Petrino was like "I'm out"
Carroll leaved USC just prior to a NCAA investigation that was targeting him. As I recall, it left a pretty good black eye for the college to deal with.
I feel like Urban Meyer is going to make this list in the future. I just can’t see him turning around Jacksonville like he did Florida and Ohio State...
They definitely need to update the Bobby Petrino part. This came out before his motorcycle accident that also revealed that he was having an affair and it ended his Arkansas tenure. His defensive coordinator with the Falcons was Mike Zimmer. Before he became coach of the Vikings, he was the defensive coordinator with the Bengals. During his time with the Bengals, he was asked about Petrino in 2010 in an interview and he called him a 'gutless bastard'. When he was told that they might not be able to print 'bastard' in the newspaper, he responded by changing it to 'gutless MF'. And he clarified it by saying that Petrino was a coward for the way he left because he ruined his assistants' lives and said that he didn't have the nuts to finish the job.
Might have to put Urban Meyer on this list in a few years. Chip Kelly most definitely should replace Pete Carroll
For some reason I like the Tampa Bay fight song, and I’m not a Tampa Bay supporter.
ur crazy that song is cheesy af
Safe to say this needs to be updated
Urban Meyer is now number one on this this he’s somehow miraculously surpassed bobby petrino
Urban Meyer could belong on this list later on. Also former Colts coach Frank Kush should be honorable mention.
And Petrino is back with the Hogs. As a Hog fan, all I have to say is I hope he doesn't do anything stupid this time around.
28:00 he says" how can we put a super bowl champion on our list"
*Pete Carroll has left the chatroom
I'm not sure who that was on color commentary, but, what he said around 39:15-39:20 was 100% correct.
What do u think about the execution of your team? “Id be all for it”😂😂
McKay could've been a stand up comic. “We’ve broken down the expansion teams and they’ve averaged winning 2.7 games their first year, which to me is rather difficult. I figured out the 2, but the .7 has got me wondering what the hell is going on.”
Well we didn't block, but we made up for it by not tackling.
Bobby Petrino says “I’ll make them forget all about that Falcons shenanigan…by doing something way worse.” 😂 oh Bobby…never stop being Bobby…
And he hurt more than just his own reputation in the process...
As a Hog fan, I'm hoping he's learned his lesson and his return to Fayetteville can help us improve.
Matt Rhule and Urban Meyer are making good cases to be on this list.
Mike Singletary would be a good honorable mention. He didn't do great in SF, but I think he'd be a great college coach.
Too early for both but its getting close for Matt Rhule
@@derricklavender4672 And Meyer signed his fate by getting fired in week 11, what a joke of a pro coach he was.
I went to Syracuse football camp under Dick MacPherson and he was amazing. Awesome guy and coach.
I appreciate that input of yours!
At about the 7:30 mark, it's said that Carroll would succeed in another NFL situation and by jove, he was right. It was "wrong place, wrong time" with the Jets and Pats (who were, then, prepetually mediocre with short glimpses of brillance when they weren't absolutely wretched). Pats found their man in Bellichick but the Jets...well...
The problem was Robert Kraft tried to take over the team from Parcells and it caused the rift that led to Parcells leaving for the Jets. Because of that, Carroll was hired to be just the coach and pretty much Kraft/Grier were in charge. Kraft learned from his mistakes with Parcells and Carroll which is why Belichick has had free reign for 20 plus years. Carroll just needed a chance to be himself and make his own decisions, the Seahawks were that chance.
The Erickson thing bubble screen is so interesting because how many coaches try to force things to work their way and it simply doesnt work in the pros. And others seem to get intimidated by it. He's probably in that latter group if he wasn't willing to be innovative.
Pete Carroll seems like a guy that's rewarding and fun to play for
Too bad he never made it in the nfl /s
@Dark Demonik At the time, it didn't
@Dark Demonik I'm sure he had known he wasn't a college coach only a assistant in college
Until he passes the ball on the one yard-line
36:30-if Shula tried to teach the "Miami Dolphins Number One" song to Zonk, Fernandez, Griese et al they'd have all laughed.
PS with Carroll's success in Seattle, time to take him off the list.
This has to be pointed out and asked. Is it really that impressive to win at USC, Miami U and Florida to land a head coaching job in the NFL?
It would be now...
Just because your program has a name doesn’t mean they always gonna be good
@@chasekozak7206 exactly
Who said that infamous line around 15:20-15:22, again?...
I can't place who it is.
Greg Schiano
Chip Kelly
Lane Kiffin
Nate Bellville Kiffin is a garbage wherever he goes.
@@frankgonzalez7432 he really shoulda stayed at FAU. It was his level as a coach.
Schiano was pain out horrible and over rated collage coach.
@@frankgonzalez7432 He be good at Old Miss , they be on probation in 5 years.
What NFL draft logo is this on the side of the screen?...
I can't tell.
“These coaches just didn’t know how to deal with professional football players.” (Shows “professional” football players fumbling, punting the ball at the centre’s backside, being unprofessional)
That's the point. Pro's aren't perfect, NFL Follies is proof of that. It takes a patient coach to work with failure as much as they work with success. Bill Belichick won 6 rings in New England but he wasn't perfect, he made some really bad personnel decisions that prevented them from winning a 7th.
Feel like this should have been a top 7 or a top 5.
One of the very few honourable mentions they had was a super bowl winner
But god the top 7 definitely were worth making the list
#2 Was my coach at Notre Dame
I'm not sure who that person on color commentary talking was around 39:15-39:20, but, what he said was 100% correct.
I was in the first semester of my Senior year of high school in late-2007 & I was surprised to hear the news of Bobby Petrine giving the Atlanta Falcons his notice of resignation.
On top of that, I'm not even an Atlanta Falcons fan & I was just as shocked as the next person in line who follows the NFL outside of whatever NFL team/teams you're a fan of, but, that's another story for another time...
Text above the comment says: "This episode originally aired in 2008". (But people still keep making the same comments about Pete Carroll not belonging on the list.) Everyone single person watching the video knows he has since won the Super Bowl. Just enjoy the immense irony of the idiots talking about him as if he will never make it in the NFL. You don't have to make a DUH! YEAH! Of Course! comment too. Please. For the love of all that remains holy in these unholy times.
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I think its cool they showed the original before the edit
Your right it does say it aired in 08, however at 8:42 the guy speaking says “in 2010 Pete Carroll returned to the nfl” or some form of that so there is no way this came out in 08
But either way I do agree that they didn’t even read that so lol
This episode was UPDATED in 2010.