THIS STREAMSNIPING HACKER RUINED MY FIRST NUKE

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  • @drewjorde
    @drewjorde 5 месяцев назад +119

    Tim breaking his legs during a nuke is the most Tim thing ever 😂

    • @JazzSoares
      @JazzSoares 5 месяцев назад

      I wanna like this comment, but it’s on 69. So I’ll pass for now

    • @Bearhunting
      @Bearhunting 5 месяцев назад

      @@JazzSoares 76

    • @JazzSoares
      @JazzSoares 5 месяцев назад

      @@Bearhuntingthanks, know I can like the comment without regret

  • @ElbowThief
    @ElbowThief 5 месяцев назад +310

    Imagine being so unhappy/bored that you've gotta ruin other people's experience to feel something. Best way to probably do this would be to capture a video off-stream to eliminate stream snipers. Sadly the anti-cheat is such a joke. I know people are hesitant about it, but kernel access would put a huge dent in the number of hackers.

    • @ElbowThief
      @ElbowThief 5 месяцев назад +1

      Also, just a thought I had I know it's gonna look weird, but maybe Tim could put his webcam over the killfeed, everyone change their display names and then put a black box over them while streaming.

    • @TinaGloria2012
      @TinaGloria2012 5 месяцев назад

      Well said buddy. Like I don't understand it, and the closest to an honest answer I got from a cheater is, "Because its fun" yeah maybe for you, but not the people you're cheating against. Its also like when you get banned don't you get tired of making new accounts all the time or spending money to buy new accounts? Like seriously... maybe try actually playing the game. Cuz more often then not their ass and if a person with real skill did what you were doing you'd get fckn owned all over the place and be crying omg he's cheating, he's hacking, whaaaa whaaa whaa.

    • @ElbowThief
      @ElbowThief 5 месяцев назад +9

      ​@spawnpktomhanks6865 Honest people aren't the issue here, though.

    • @xExasperate
      @xExasperate 5 месяцев назад

      @@TinaGloria2012 imagine thinking cheating is fun LMAOOOOO what fucking losers

    • @xExasperate
      @xExasperate 5 месяцев назад +12

      @spawnpktomhanks6865 regardless the guys in a armoured heli fucking cheating LMAO

  • @joanknowme1924
    @joanknowme1924 5 месяцев назад +51

    The constant random cutting to a clip of J stressing has me weak😂

  • @johnglaspy6057
    @johnglaspy6057 5 месяцев назад +15

    Swagg getting knocked trying to jump in the chopper had me 😂

  • @0311nate
    @0311nate 5 месяцев назад +31

    Can just hear the pain in Jays voice answering all of Tim’s questions lol.

  • @DominikanYT
    @DominikanYT 5 месяцев назад +111

    Everybody Locked 🔒 in and Tim asking questions the entire match make this vid so much funny 😂

    • @ducka0f
      @ducka0f 5 месяцев назад +2

      nothing but question after question 😂😂

    • @ChickenManLovesWMH
      @ChickenManLovesWMH 5 месяцев назад

      Middy

  • @mr.2timez555
    @mr.2timez555 5 месяцев назад +21

    The only way y'all are getting a nuke is if you record a video off stream lmao.

  • @KrayZieTyler
    @KrayZieTyler 5 месяцев назад +149

    10/10 still a firm believer of game companies permanently banning proven stream snipers.

    • @Quantum-
      @Quantum- 5 месяцев назад +6

      I'm with that. Treat them like cheaters.

    • @drewjorde
      @drewjorde 5 месяцев назад +1

      For real tho it’s just cheating

    • @ITh4n4tosI
      @ITh4n4tosI 5 месяцев назад

      The problem is the game is free. Ban them all you want you can just make a new account

    • @Quantum-
      @Quantum- 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ITh4n4tosI tell Fortnite that.

    • @sly6627
      @sly6627 5 месяцев назад +1

      That would have to include friendly stream snipers too, no one complains about them you can't have it both ways.

  • @BAM420time
    @BAM420time 5 месяцев назад +640

    Don’t feel bad Tim. I got kicked from a party because I wasn’t sweaty enough. Apparently getting stoned out of your mind and playing video games is looked down upon

    • @brandoboyer731
      @brandoboyer731 5 месяцев назад +76

      If your not helping why would they want you

    • @Darkturtlesyt
      @Darkturtlesyt 5 месяцев назад +54

      Ur chill like that man they're jealous bro

    • @colinjames4230
      @colinjames4230 5 месяцев назад +11

      When I played on PC ppl would kick me for being on PC lol.

    • @Phosphor_Sco
      @Phosphor_Sco 5 месяцев назад +55

      ​@@Z0MBIE-xcringe for relaxing in his own way

    • @StepSisRUstuck
      @StepSisRUstuck 5 месяцев назад +63

      ​@@Z0MBIE-xsaying the word cringe is weird as fxck 😂

  • @TomHarshberger
    @TomHarshberger 5 месяцев назад +4

    Genuinely felt for you on this one. So frustrating.

  • @trystenryder
    @trystenryder 5 месяцев назад +6

    My boy Tim plays video games for a living and still manages to hit the ground at mach 10 regularly. I don't think I've ever died by skydiving head first into the ground, not even once in warzone. It takes some serious skill to do it on a regular basis to the point where it becomes a running joke in the community

  • @bidensniffed.myballs6894
    @bidensniffed.myballs6894 5 месяцев назад +20

    swagg got hit with that "splat" anti cheat lmaoo 11:30

    • @chriss7389
      @chriss7389 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wait why did i die? That shit is classic!

    • @Based_Sir887
      @Based_Sir887 5 месяцев назад

      how can you tell

    • @Meth4524
      @Meth4524 5 месяцев назад

      no lol

  • @MementoMoriv2
    @MementoMoriv2 5 месяцев назад +1

    0:55 ah yes, Tim is indeed trying to crossmap prone on a helicopter...with a pistol

  • @brayceclack2695
    @brayceclack2695 5 месяцев назад +3

    Tim’s like my Mom during a movie, won’t stop asking questions

  • @floridaking4078
    @floridaking4078 5 месяцев назад

    The “naw Tim durning the nuke game” classic Tim lol

  • @Broba_Fett
    @Broba_Fett 5 месяцев назад +3

    Getting a Tim nuke should be the ultimate nuke attempt.

  • @darkc1utch951
    @darkc1utch951 5 месяцев назад +3

    Tim getting a Nuke is like Tim getting a second crown in Fall Guys

  • @Jay-gi6oh
    @Jay-gi6oh 5 месяцев назад +5

    Not streaming = "hacker"
    Streaming = "He's just cracked bro, actual"

  • @bewarned8236
    @bewarned8236 5 месяцев назад +3

    11:30 I love it "Wait whyd i die" you know exactly what that is LMAO, Good ole Ricochet hittin him with the 2foot death. Fuck cheaters.

    • @normanjayden95
      @normanjayden95 5 месяцев назад

      No, there are literal death barriers on top of helicopters which would kill players who try to parachute on top of them. Nice try.

    • @bewarned8236
      @bewarned8236 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thats literally only if the blades are going. Nice try. This sit has been happenin to this cheating fuck ever since its been a thing.@@normanjayden95

  • @yungnblessed1445
    @yungnblessed1445 5 месяцев назад +3

    Bro dies to fall damage every time shit gets intense 😂😂

  • @richardduran8345
    @richardduran8345 5 месяцев назад +4

    5:44 Classic

  • @Therabidrabbit89
    @Therabidrabbit89 5 месяцев назад +22

    Swagg calling people rats while he is known for using a chronus is incredibly rich. Also splat anti cheat in full effect at 11:30

    • @nocloutneeded6244
      @nocloutneeded6244 5 месяцев назад +2

      Is this satire?

    • @Craigjevans
      @Craigjevans 5 месяцев назад +1

      you're reaching there buddy

    • @xnxkx2464
      @xnxkx2464 5 месяцев назад +1

      Im no warzone geographer but im pretty sure that choper didnt spawn there so im amost positive bro hit the propellers which looked stationary but were still very slightly moving from when it landed in that spot

  • @WillstarWorld
    @WillstarWorld 5 месяцев назад +3

    DUUUUDE...... I didnt know the Doc had a fountain of youth? Is this not him standing on the Jets sidelines during the 1986 playoffs ( right hand side of the screen) ? LOL Timestamp 2:33:00
    ruclips.net/video/Z6jEVpXoga4/видео.htmlsi=E8FdEi1WCpZAvPsw

    • @dreamtimerelaxation8761
      @dreamtimerelaxation8761 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bro it looks just like him without the sunglasses. The STACH is impeccable.

  • @nz-punisha
    @nz-punisha 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tim getting downed by fall damage never gets old 😂

  • @dannydeleto607
    @dannydeleto607 5 месяцев назад

    Dudes playing a game about killing everyone in your way "why are they shooting me" 😂

  • @itsmeyeison
    @itsmeyeison 5 месяцев назад +6

    "Oh Tim, not during the nuke game bro" LMFAO

  • @fusiongingerragegaming
    @fusiongingerragegaming 5 месяцев назад

    17minutes of Tim sounding really confused. Haha😅😅

  • @avryhighguy
    @avryhighguy 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bro booya SHIT on that kid with the pistol at the beginning😂😂

  • @issam5294
    @issam5294 5 месяцев назад

    shoutout zigomedia for the message in the intro, big love timmy

  • @dizzysic2587
    @dizzysic2587 5 месяцев назад +14

    Legitimate question... Can't Timmy run a delayed stream? A ten or fifteen minute delay to deter stream snipers.

    • @austinmcdonald876
      @austinmcdonald876 5 месяцев назад +5

      Would make their stream less appealing I’m guessing if chat can’t interact closer to real time with donations and messages and such.

    • @dizzysic2587
      @dizzysic2587 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@austinmcdonald876 I guess that could be annoying to chat.. but I've been a part of delayed streams for competitive TCG and it really helps. Then again, I want Tim to succeed.

    • @xsmockjrx
      @xsmockjrx 5 месяцев назад +1

      the people were hacking

    • @dizzysic2587
      @dizzysic2587 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@xsmockjrx not everyone.. there are way more streamsnipers than hackers. Almost every video of Tim's has had an appearance by a streamsniper.

    • @Redeyez2424
      @Redeyez2424 5 месяцев назад +2

      Watch XQC 15 minute delay

  • @dummyrey
    @dummyrey 5 месяцев назад +9

    video hasn’t even started yet and i know im gonna see tim in pain

  • @Retroscoe
    @Retroscoe 5 месяцев назад +3

    Tim playing with Known Hackers.

  • @stephenclark3247
    @stephenclark3247 5 месяцев назад

    A train irl running circles around the nuke 😂

  • @mateokins9
    @mateokins9 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dude this is how most of us regular humans feel in this game. I am impressed at how many ppl have time to try to ruin your day. Impressive

  • @zDsire
    @zDsire 5 месяцев назад +54

    I actually feel bad for Tim.

    • @Biggest_fan
      @Biggest_fan 5 месяцев назад +4

      Why this is what the Average player goes through just trying to get it, they would try and stop it if it was anyone of us in the lobby trying to do it and they would think its funny. They dont care about anyone else.

    • @dizzysic2587
      @dizzysic2587 5 месяцев назад +17

      @@Biggest_fan the average player isn't being streamsniped

    • @Its_Not_That_Deep90
      @Its_Not_That_Deep90 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@dizzysic2587 Who gives a fck? Put a massive delay on your stream, hide the screen then start a game then keep hiding the screen backout, start another game, backout again then start another game and play it.
      No streamsnipers would be there, guaranteed.
      They're just crying too much when there is plenty of situations.

    • @Its_Not_That_Deep90
      @Its_Not_That_Deep90 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Biggest_fan lol they're such fanboys.. they turn into fangirls 😂😂 they're not even fanboys anymore lmao

    • @dizzysic2587
      @dizzysic2587 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Its_Not_That_Deep90 no fucking shit.... which is why I commented on this video "why doesn't Timmy delay his stream?"... I was replying to someone who said "the average player goes through the same thing".. use your eyes, then your brain, don't be dumb.

  • @MuTe818
    @MuTe818 5 месяцев назад

    Stream snipers are equivalent to paparazzi. Both are hated by the “celebrity” 😂

  • @one_seerb
    @one_seerb 5 месяцев назад

    5:45 fall damage strikes again

  • @DaBlakDrPhil85
    @DaBlakDrPhil85 5 месяцев назад

    J smooth stay going through the struggle 😂

  • @pants2103
    @pants2103 5 месяцев назад +11

    Tims gameplay is a reflection of the cowboys starts off strong ends weak

    • @buzzz6.4
      @buzzz6.4 5 месяцев назад

      As a fan of both Tim and the Cowboys. I completely agree. 😂

  • @Zackwayt-so5rt
    @Zackwayt-so5rt 4 месяца назад +1

    Love how you give back to small streamers when you spectate them and their live. Just hope you keep it up for the good holsome ones and not the dumb ones going after a kid audience

  • @dj45nny1
    @dj45nny1 5 месяцев назад +18

    Can't really complain about hackers when swagg using a cronus 😂

  • @zeleacodreanu1
    @zeleacodreanu1 5 месяцев назад +7

    "Radar hack? I've never even heard of a radar hack."
    Iykyk

  • @Valter-Andrade
    @Valter-Andrade 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pulling out a shotgun is crazy

  • @hebba7
    @hebba7 5 месяцев назад +2

    "can't belive we being stream sniped and they hack" while playing with hackers on u're team! LOL Tim...

  • @CaughtSlackin_
    @CaughtSlackin_ 5 месяцев назад

    We need to go back to having mods in every game.

  • @kingsora4744
    @kingsora4744 5 месяцев назад +1

    bruh whats even crazier is that all of them just have user and random numbers 7:58 thats unfortunate

  • @Wayne-mason
    @Wayne-mason 5 месяцев назад

    I think you should do it off line and post it as a vid lol

  • @jontaylor938
    @jontaylor938 5 месяцев назад

    Bummer!

  • @hibikigamervlogs2982
    @hibikigamervlogs2982 5 месяцев назад

    Tim you should try a lockdown match using a melee weapon or shotgun or marksman sniper or cross bow assault rifle

  • @sergiochino1861
    @sergiochino1861 5 месяцев назад +1

    Keep doing it Tim we believe in you

  • @SinkMMA
    @SinkMMA 5 месяцев назад +2

    The anti-cheat does not work. Also, Microsoft apparently laid off Activision's support team, which leads me to believe nobody is currently reviewing player reports.
    Switch to PS5 and disable crossplay, all you can do. Fuck Activision

    • @SyIis
      @SyIis 5 месяцев назад

      It's still working the same.
      I join discord servers for cheats from Google and just watch them talk, some stream on discord while they're cheating, lol... idk why, they're like showing the cheats ig
      But you can watch them get banned after a few games depending on their software and how blatant they are, etc
      Edit: I'm also a console player, so, these tools don't do nothing for me, it's just funny to see first hand how many messages about bans go by hourly. Had to mute half of them recently.

    • @SinkMMA
      @SinkMMA 5 месяцев назад

      @@SyIis well, that makes me feel a bit better i suppose. However, i think that it's only catching the most obvious cases; fresh accounts who are aimbotting and being insta reported. Also, I assume there are prob cheat providers with a lesser detection rate than some of the lower quality programs

  • @BarbWaltersMusic
    @BarbWaltersMusic 5 месяцев назад +1

    the death from fall damage... unreal

  • @tristanfarinhas8157
    @tristanfarinhas8157 5 месяцев назад +3

    Lmao JSmooth always in the same state

  • @theblart4196
    @theblart4196 5 месяцев назад

    That just looks like a normal lobby us average mnk players get put into on the daily…LMAO

  • @alimran2128
    @alimran2128 5 месяцев назад +4

    Our favorite part timer Timmy

  • @RicardoSilva-kh7cd
    @RicardoSilva-kh7cd 5 месяцев назад

    Let Timmy get his first nuke guys come on 😂

  • @TrendSettaRico
    @TrendSettaRico 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pain!

  • @Solidus43
    @Solidus43 5 месяцев назад +1

    You guys should play on a de lay

  • @BuddyBunchORD
    @BuddyBunchORD 5 месяцев назад

    Attempting the nuke looks like a blast to try. It's a shame me and 99.9% of the player base will never get to try it.

  • @patrickschafferman3608
    @patrickschafferman3608 5 месяцев назад

    Watch this man Tim since cod ghost it’s actually crazy love the content Tim❤️💯

  • @GRlMME
    @GRlMME 5 месяцев назад +1

    lol I literally called it in one of his other videos. He gets streamed sniped a lot on the regular, now that he’s going for a nuke, it’s only going to get even worse.

  • @beingantonio
    @beingantonio 5 месяцев назад +4

    They got a taste of their own medicine for the first time. Wow, this was the best stream i have ever watched. If this keeps happening, Activision will have no choice but to actually do something about it because their favorite kids are getting the stick, table turned, please don't stop whoever you are out there ruin their life. Hackers pretending to be pros.

  • @josiahdillard7428
    @josiahdillard7428 5 месяцев назад

    Welp here comes the 10 minute delay for the nuke 😂😂😂

  • @TweakerDaryl
    @TweakerDaryl 5 месяцев назад

    Timmy you probably won’t see this but you should make a little load screen type deal for when y’all queue up in a game stream snipers can’t match up with you as easily

  • @ralloos
    @ralloos 5 месяцев назад +3

    cod is in such a bad spot right now with literally everything, like everything lol i cant think of one thing they are doing good and headed in the right direction with.. i wouldn't mind never watching or touching this game ever again, sad but true

    • @Rafael-pe6yg
      @Rafael-pe6yg 5 месяцев назад

      Very true, also 30% of Sledgehammer gsmes have been laid off. So the game isn’t going to become better any soon.

  • @uzzislx23
    @uzzislx23 5 месяцев назад

    The editing in this video is top notch!

  • @craig5256
    @craig5256 5 месяцев назад

    Better luck next time 😂

  • @TheOGGrandpa
    @TheOGGrandpa 5 месяцев назад +2

    Tim’s opening intro complaining about hackers but he’s doing the nuke contract with 2 blatant hackers on his team and idk the other guy but probably is a hacker if he plays with hackers

  • @Angelica0216
    @Angelica0216 5 месяцев назад +2

    Is anyone going to tell Tim that isn’t not called Warzone 3? It’s just called Warzone

    • @alyssalittle1443
      @alyssalittle1443 5 месяцев назад

      It is the third version of it though- bc MW had OG warzone, mw2 had their own warzone & then now MW3 has this warzone. So I guess it is more so just like “season 3” in a way. Idk I get why they do it

  • @sergioroberts272
    @sergioroberts272 5 месяцев назад

    No more video ending music?? Me an my son jam out to it after watching your videos lol

  • @Its_Not_That_Deep90
    @Its_Not_That_Deep90 5 месяцев назад

    Dammm breaking your legs on a nuke run is crazy

  • @clarencetutor4838
    @clarencetutor4838 5 месяцев назад +4

    Tim I love you, you're my favorite streamer. I can NOT watch more than 10 minutes of you playing warzone. The stream sniping is out of control and I never get to see you have an organic experience. Every game is just you running from stream snipers and nothing about that is enjoyable to me.

    • @Alex-xi4bg
      @Alex-xi4bg 5 месяцев назад

      lmfao most games he doesn’t run into them unless hes spectating

  • @brandonrodgers9365
    @brandonrodgers9365 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Tim just a thought yall get the heavy chopper if there's 2 get both maybe could help. I feel your pain that's horrible that stream snipers are that bad. Maybe can have some friendly stream snipers help you out and kill the others. Good luck I want your skin when it was out for awhile I didn't get it in time I was at work for those few weeks and couldn't get it if anyone can help I will pay for it love the blueprints hands down my favorite with the Tats on the gun so cool of a design. Hopefully, soon, they will let swagg get his its been a while, they should do it again with content creators other games do it and what a feeling to have yourself as a skin in your favorite game I couldn't imagine.

  • @aarondyess9463
    @aarondyess9463 5 месяцев назад

    It’s crazy what happens when streamers get in lobbies that I’m always in

  • @clintbartholomew7459
    @clintbartholomew7459 5 месяцев назад

    good on you for standing your ground on the breadman issue. Shows us you would never do that shit and you don't support it.

  • @Carlos10ibarra
    @Carlos10ibarra 5 месяцев назад

    How do you always break your legs? Thats so bad man, forget K/D and fix that lol

  • @1234567lovable
    @1234567lovable 5 месяцев назад +1

    All 4 attempts at my teams nuke attempts kids in the chat typing banding together and camping the bomb site hard. Made me sad

  • @TheJewKnows
    @TheJewKnows 5 месяцев назад +4

    During the two gameplays in this vid, Tim had a total of 2 kills. Some high quality gameplay right there

    • @Bruiser477
      @Bruiser477 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah but its legitimate gameplay that what makes it entertaining, if you enjoy watching aim bots an wall hackers then just type into YT Warzone 3 🤣

    • @xsmockjrx
      @xsmockjrx 5 месяцев назад +2

      pretty tough to kill hackers with heavy helis with no loadout

    • @smokeywyvern690
      @smokeywyvern690 5 месяцев назад +2

      The point of a nuke contract isnt kills...?

    • @ValorantTopPlays
      @ValorantTopPlays 5 месяцев назад

      and he gets paid for it and you don't, nice hate bro.

  • @tomenkelaar150
    @tomenkelaar150 5 месяцев назад

    Play on delay when you do nuke ,must be so frustrating all the stream snipers

  • @-Cerny-
    @-Cerny- 5 месяцев назад

    All the friendlies should just be your bodyguards

  • @samwilson6316
    @samwilson6316 5 месяцев назад

    Tim said tell somebody ya love em...So I love you guys 😢

  • @CRAZYHORSE12
    @CRAZYHORSE12 5 месяцев назад

    You are stream sniped more than anyone I have watched lol

  • @ClayDabbler
    @ClayDabbler 5 месяцев назад

    Tim using a Wired Turtle beach mic, Fail

  • @CasiusTOC
    @CasiusTOC 5 месяцев назад +1

    imagine having so little going for you that the only "success" you have is stream sniping trying to ruin someone's game. Literally the most cringe sh*t i've seen in my life.
    you're the GOAT timmy, keep grinding.

  • @Sceet111
    @Sceet111 5 месяцев назад

    Pookie wookie

  • @BigOLarry33
    @BigOLarry33 5 месяцев назад +10

    SMASH that like button harder than Tim did the ground during a NUKE run...at this point it's not even a meme at this point

  • @XxOopsImDeadxX
    @XxOopsImDeadxX 5 месяцев назад

    Hopefully Tyler goes live today so we can roast him like he did you

  • @hannijobs
    @hannijobs 5 месяцев назад

    They should've install the red and green element first so that enemies cant tracked them.

  • @XavierShade
    @XavierShade 5 месяцев назад

    They can't stream snipe if your PC is shitting the bed. 🤣

  • @leigh667
    @leigh667 5 месяцев назад

    Tim the Fatman has to be one of the biggest streamers I've seen!!edit: damn auto correct. ☺️

  • @takethat4219
    @takethat4219 5 месяцев назад

    What happened to the cowboys?

  • @darkxian3038
    @darkxian3038 5 месяцев назад

    Even multiple stream snipers are grouping up to ruin Tim's nuke... these kids need to get a life.

  • @andrewkiely5328
    @andrewkiely5328 5 месяцев назад +4

    You and Doc play with Zlaner. How many nukes has that hacker ruined?

  • @AMKd1sturbd0ne
    @AMKd1sturbd0ne 5 месяцев назад

    Love your shirts Tim

  • @xsmockjrx
    @xsmockjrx 5 месяцев назад

    bro, how is COD allowing this to happen? im getting mad just watching this, i can only imagine what tim is going through just to get a nuke.. this is a terrible experience.

  • @Rural420cannabis
    @Rural420cannabis 5 месяцев назад

    Need the emp gun it crushes helicopter pretty quick.

  • @dannyg_2377
    @dannyg_2377 5 месяцев назад

    Background music was dope

  • @yukitze
    @yukitze 5 месяцев назад

    tim got more questions than the guy from jeopardy

  • @ydevi14
    @ydevi14 5 месяцев назад

    Brock Purdy going to the Super Bowl… where’s Dak at?

  • @OfficialAbyssGaming
    @OfficialAbyssGaming 5 месяцев назад

    You gotta hold onto the elements all game and I recommend no stream for it