Just like how Joy drove Brad with his inner desire to protect Buddy, Buddy is driven by her inner desire to be free, and the only way she can be free is if she kills everyone that can take that away from her.
I noticed how potentially dangerous it was for Buzzo to have mutant Brad tied up so close to him where mutant Brad could absolutely kill Buzzo in his sleep if he wanted to. If he desired killing. But he doesn't. I think this scene shows that Brad never desired to kill or even hurt anyone during The Painful, except for Marty.
I feel like the main thing that could of saved Brad and Buddy’s relationship is communication. Giving her full context of the situation she would understand why she was locked up. (I mean there’s other problems too but this is kinda like the main one.)
true...whats even worse is that brad made that same mistake with sticky and dusty/rando. If he told those 3 about his traumas then maybe he could've had some support and understanding...
That's literally what I was thinking during Marty's fight. Without that context, it just looks like he's just randomly brutally murdering a random old man for no reason
Buddy has a point - she grew up in an environment that was dog eat dog and everyone had a plan for her, but never talked or discussed anything with her. It was probably the Joy that did her in - hell, the title is a call back to being "Joyful". Joy gives the user the ability to act upon one's crazy desires...
honestly despite brad hurting buddy in how he kept her a prisoner he was the only person who really cared about her. like he wanted the best for her unlike everyone else who brad was around. i also really despise her as even after her journey on the run meeting the residents of the world she still can't see brad tried his best to protect her from that.
He also literally gave her the ability to fight as well as she does, and she can’t even give him that much. She would be dead if brad hadn’t taught her what he did. But she also wouldn’t have had to worry so much about having to use those skills for pure greed if she had just listened to brad and stayed inside or gone with him the several times he caught up to her. Idk how she could look at him, with his arms cut off and arrows all in him and still curse his name and say he was worthless and horrible. Because without him, she would be nothing.
@lel lol I really wanna put your commentary in a portrait. I don't know why people can't just try to see the things from Buddy's perspective! Brad had good intentions but he handled things poorly Also, lets not forget he's an unreliable narrator. Everything we see in Painful it's super subjective, so maybe he did a lot much more of pain to Buddy than it appears to be.
@@GGKittyXO he literally forced a kid to kill people... if he was as strong as he was, why didn't he just let her be a kid and protect her through raw strength rather than abusive behavior.
@@JustHANO Because of the world they live in, he kind of had to teach her how to kill. He won't live forever, he won't always be there to protect her. The reason buddy even lives as long as she does is likely because of all that Brad taught her. He wasn't perfect, but I don't know if he can be considered abusive given the circumstances.
Buddy says sticky never hurt her. Not didnt touch her. Big difference. The games currency is pornographic magazines its not far fetched to belive he groomed her.
@@SycrithTheSquid austin says a lot of shit. He also says every single fan game is canon. and wow. If thats true there's some major continuity issues. He also says dusty is his favorite character more likely than not in part to the controversy hes stirred. Honestly wouldn't put it past him to outright lie to just stir the pot.
@@SycrithTheSquid lol pointless contradicts the main game and and hopefull in the sense that bullets are rare. Lest we forget fly (amoung a ton of others in painful) and beltboy. I dunno though, maybe joels gun is like a key item that works now that he has the bullet or does 9,999,999 damage or something. Point is even the good fan games do some shit i dont think should be considered canon for the fans to call. Like Richard dying.
The end of painful and the story of joyful made me really dislike Buddy. I get that it was hard for her, but Brad really tried and she just became an emotionless monster in joyful.
Apparently its mainly because she was also taking Joy however that doesn't make her character better, Brad was likable even if he was on joy and went crazy a few times in the game.
I really wish the author of this game makes an alternative version of LISA called LISA the Fateful where it shows a version of the future where the White Flash didn't happen but the results are mostly same.
I feel a lot of things would be different. I don't really see Brad locking up Buddy in a normal world unless she was like... the child of a rich person or mob boss.
Although I did learn more about Buddy’s perspectives, I still don’t really like her. She was trapped in the house for majority of her but for a good reason. She’s the only young girl in a world of hungry and desperate men who couldn’t care less about taking advantage of her to please their sexual desire. This is the reason why Brad is so protective. She was only allowed to go only when Brad is around and she had to conceal her face. Brad forced her to kill people but this is because so that she can defend herself. Though Brad himself is not off the hook either. The thing is that he doesn’t see buddy as buddy but as a second Lisa that he has to protect. He did try to stop taking joy but again, once you become an addict, it’s extremely hard to stop especially when his body keeps being dependent on it. So this kinda influenced Buddy to do the same. I think the reasons why I still have this dislike for her is because of the way she treated Brad and also because of how unfair it is to Brad. Brad sacrificed everything for Buddy only for him to be yelled at by buddy and seeing her protecting the man who caused him, Lisa, and Buzzo years of suffering in the first place. If only Martin wasn’t such a piece of shit, all of this wouldn’t have happened in the first place. Another thing is how Brad is more sympathetic than Buddy. Brad has a terrible childhood, while Buddy (through our eyes at least) has a much better life than he did. At least Buddy actually have someone who are willing to protect her while Brad had none beside being the protector himself.
@@SquatchGamingChannel I know, i was so satisfied when i watched the video! Keep going! I am waiting for some more! Can't wain until you start another game lore!
Crackdown's objective: Eliminate all High-ups in gangs so you can weaken the gang overall and take out their leaders. Lisa the Joyful's objective: Eliminate all people on the lower side of the list before moving up to the top. *hmMMMmmAMMmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM*
Honestly I kinda hate how everyone automatically views buddy as awful and Brad as just because he wanted to protect buddy. I understand that he was trying his best but in Buddy's eyes all he did was keep her sealed away and never let her see anything of the outside world. She had no real idea of how anything was and had no way to choose her own path. She had no freedom. I do agree Brad probably did the best he could in the situation and with how he was but things like his drug binges and history distance from buddy didn't help her. She was raised in a shit situation and never given any idea of why she had to be locked away. So when she is finally given a idea of how it really was, when she was finally told that she could save the world, it opened her world. She never truly understood anything really but in her eyes this was her first time she could decide anything about her life. Then in her eyes here comes Brad running in killing and destroying everything to pull her into a life she never liked in the first place, to take away any choices she has in life. Of course she would view him harshly no matter if he is trying to save her or not. He is taking away the one sliver of freedom she has ever had and forcing her back into that life she grew to hate more and more. Then when it comes to the situation when he smacked her and literally obliterated a man in front of her going into such a blind rage she managed to sail off that island in the time it took him to finally wake up. Yes I can see why she did the things she does. Never forget that joy makes you go into tunnel vision to chase after your most inner desire, that's what happened to brad in his pursuit of buddy he ignored everything that was in his path to get to her. Then buddy took joy and her own desire was to become the strongest so she can finally truly be free. This is her dash to freedom ignoring everything around her in order to get to it just as brad went after his own desire. This is the affects of joy and what happens when you give a person not a single bit of freedom and lock them away only for them to get a taste of it before being threatened to have it all pulled away from them.
If she truely went along with what the others wanted, and if brad had never gone after her the way he did buddy would go through some “really bad things”. Hardly freedom
Oh, I'm well aware that no topic here will be joyful -(wait)-, but just hearing a deep narrative be put into such an easy to follow form, it makes me rather happy. Definitely helped to cheer me up. Take your time with the next parts, there's no need to rush!
At the first glance Brad is the monster here. But after finding out what joy did to him you realize he's not the monster. The real monster is Buddy herself.
To be fair to Buddy, she was born into a world where everyone would be out to get her whether it be sexual assault or the pressure of keeping an entire race of people alive. She's constantly been kept hidden and told what to do by Brad, who had his reasons to keep her safe but never explaining his motive and sometimes acted out of selfish desire. In that situation someone like Buddy could be tired of their life and lash out at the world in toxic ways. The world was never kind to her so she harbored a dislike and mistrust of the people in it. Her freedom was constantly being taken away from her so she'd do anything to have a semblance of control in her life. And sure killing all those people and rejecting someone who cared about her may seem ruthless but that's the kind of life she was brought into.
Buddy is kinda horrible, she actively pushes away and manipulates Rando (Dusty), like that’s your brother! Hear him out he’s just trying to help you!! Like I get you don’t wanna be controlled by people but there’s ways of doing that, that doesn’t get people murdered or taken over the world!
To those arguing whether they like Brad or Buddy more, or how one or the other is terrible: I don't think it was the point of either game to make you like either. Both Buddy and Brad are ungrateful assholes. Brad was ungrateful for his friends, Buddy was ungrateful for Brad's protection. It seems a lot like Hotline Miami in the sense that everyone is terrible. There is no hero to this story, no matter who's side you're on. Well, except Rando I guess. But even Rando has probably killed people who didn't truly deserve it. He wouldn't be the leader of his own army if he didn't have the strength and reputation to back it up. Tl;Dr, I think the moral of both stories is just, "Shit sucks. Be a pessimistic. Olathe is just a metaphor for the real world, and Hell can't be real, because we're already in it." And that's my interpretation as an optimist. These games are 100% gloomy through and through. Honestly, unless you're a fan of being miserable and seeing gore, I don't even know why anyone would play these. I guess the humor's alright. But at the end of the day these games just left me feeling like I've been kicked in the gut.
I actually think it was Rick not Sticky for two reasons, Rick's already injured when Brad confronts him, and Buddy hallucinates Rick with a bandaged face near the end of this game. Which she shouldn't have seen unless she saw him again after Brad's confrontation. Plus it'd tie back to Lisa: The First's "Tricky Rick"
@@SquatchGamingChannel The whole touching her thing, I think Rick tried it, Sticky stopped him and feeling like she'd be victimized again unless she knew, Sticky explained to her the birds and the bees. My reasoning is that she doesn't really have a reason to defend him at that point, and Rick's never really brought up. I was kinda hoping the DLC would have also covered Rick Sticky and Buddy's adventures during Painful but maybe that'd explain too much. Since a lotta people feel this one did already.
Yeah so Buddy is one of the most unlikable characters in the series. I hated Joyful. It was too easy, and the story sucked. The motive sucked, no reason Rando had to die . But given the first game, I guess it's fine. Just not sure how she doesn't know what adoption is, but knows what rape is? That makes no sense.
I'm there with you. I didn't enjoy Joyful as much as I enjoyed Painful, but I will admit there's a scene in Joyful that hits me with a lot emotion than anything in Painful. I think those moments where Buddy doesn't know what something is is supposed to show her naiveté and ignorance. Even though she thinks she knows everything and acts as such, there's still a lot that she doesn't know. At the same time, it shows how jacked up her upbringing has been in that she knows what rape is, but not what pacifist means. Just my two cents.
@@SquatchGamingChannel personally I think painful is not being truthful to what we see as a player. Brad's already on Joy, and I think the tragedy is he's really a terrible person. But as a player, we see his views as the hero. As one person said, everyone is the hero in their own eyes. I do like the joyful lore , and Rando is too pure for the world. But as a whole, I really enjoyed Brad's self torment more than Buddy's genocidal rage, lol.
I agree with you there! I think that's one of major themes of Painful. I mean, there are moments that show that Brad could be a good person, like when he saves Terry and stuff, but on the whole, he's not exactly a stand up guy. Lol.
How did buddy go from getting kidnapped and knocked out to a murder machine, not to mention so naive she was seemingly fine with said constant kiddpapping to whatever joyful was.
Thanks, man! But if I ever start slacking, I need you to let me know! You've got to hold me accountable! I really do appreciate the thought, dude! Thanks so much, and thanks for watching! :)
Ok I have a question. WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE OTHER COUNTRIES????????? Olathe can’t be the only country in the world. Sure sometimes people call Olathe the world but that’s more metaphorical. Where are the tourists,shouldn’t the government notice that there seems to be a lot of deaths in this specific country? Has no mutant EVER passed the border to other countries or died in the ocean after getting sweeped into the current and washed up on a beach in a different country? No one in the rest of the world seem to know what’s happening. Actually is the rest of the world like this? We haven’t heard about any other countries in this series of games. And we also didn’t hear about Joy manufacturing factory’s in other countries so it’s probably all made in Olathe. Like how has no one found out about this? I get that the rest of the world got flashed so no girls and their in chaos too but I doubt they would let go of all technology like planes and trains and travelling. In fact I think travelling would increase to ignore the fate of humanity.
Rando Is the faith left in humanity. Buddy understands that control equals power. Buddy wants to control everything. So they can have power and dominion over the world. And they can make it the way they wanted to or so they think. You can take things from a man and try to make them the way you want them to be, but you cant change someone. They have to change themselves.
I found Lisa the joyful from a crossover animation between undertale and Lisa the joyful called interlopers. I'm glad I did, cuz this game is a hidden gem
I did the same. If you have finished discovering everything about the LISA series on the games, you could give a look at the art. There is plenty of talented pictures that revives the feeling about what these games represent. Sadness, blood, discoverings, etc.
You know at least *this* one actually showed *Brad* doing things that messed Buddy up, and not just Buddy making the same stupid choice over and over and blaming Brad for it each time.
Audacity. After I record, I use the "Noise Removal" (or its equivalent) to take out some of the static from the mic, and then hit it with a Compressor. The gain is usually turned up a bit from that, and from the explosiveness of the sound, the compressor probably doesn't get enough time to attack it to reduce it, so it's probably a result from that. Lol. Or I might be waaayyy off base, and it might be nothing like that! I'm no Audio Engineer! Lol. What effect are you referring to?
@@SquatchGamingChannel The polosive noises are all going to be around the 50 frequency area, below regular human voice. If you were to just cut that straight out with an FFT Filter around the problem areas, it would fix the issue
Someone's done their homework while I haven't. Lol. Awesome, dude. I'll have to play around with that when I get a chance and see how it goes. Would I be able to use the Filter to hit the entire thing and it would only hit the problem areas, or would I have to go in manually and hit the Ps and Bs myself?
Awesome to hear that, man! Thank you very much! I'm sure I'll get there eventually. Just have to keep working hard and doing the best I can! Thanks for the support! :)
Lol. Sounds like a good problem to have! ;) I'm working on the next part now, and I'm trying to get it finished as quickly (while maintaining the quality) as possible! Sorry for the wait!
I liked the dlc but the only problem I had with it was how they presented the answers they were more straight forward rather than subtle still good dlc
it wasnt like hmm this guy uses armstrong techniques i wonder who he is but more like; hey my name is dustin and some certain person that you will find out later sawed my face off oh and also i came back from the dead twice
Exactly! I remember the feeling I had when I saw Dusty with his mutilated face in the Painful ending. It blew me away, and made the fight against Rando so much sadder...
Well, if you don't do story summaries about the fan game I have no problem You are the one making the video I'm the one that does not have a life so spends his time watching RUclips
Great video, I just found this channel the other day, but I'm liking your style of videos. Are you going to make videos on the "Hopeful" and "Pointless" fangames as well?
Thank you! Happy to hear you're enjoying everything! I've thought about it, but I'm not really sure yet. The plan for now is story summaries for the Painful and Joyful, then I'll be making "Biography videos" (what I call em, they're probably more "lore videos") for most of the characters between these two games. After I'm finished with those, I'm going to assess some things before deciding if I'll do the fan games, or if I'll be moving to a new series. Thanks for watching, by the way! I appreciate it!
Brad was so obsessed with protecting Buddy's childlike innocence, always saying "she's just a kid" in LISA: The Painful, he inadvertently ended up being the one who corrupted her and turned Buddy into a monster. He really did end up hurting her the most, mentally at least. Though the flashback with the tied up man implied he had her fight full grown men to the death, in a controlled environment, probably only stepping in if it looked like she was close to being killed by the scared and desperate prisoners beating and bashing at her. So physically too.
He didn t hurt her at all he taught her valuable survival skills to kill It s like ur parent never teaching u to speak or communicate Brad did everything he could to protect her but due to his addiction he didn t see what was he doing wrong But buddy is just a teenage bitch she hated a man who given up everything for her
I must say I dislike what they did to the warlords character as in the painful he was a such a mysterious yet intimidating character but 10 minutes into the joyful he just turns into some wimpy dude and all mysteriousness for him is lost
It's the cycle of abuse, Marty, Brad, Buddy, they all became monsters because of their pent up grief and problems and taking it out on those closest to them, causing other’s grief and problems
Yeah, they're pretty crazy, my dude. Thanks for watching and commenting as much as you have. I appreciate it, and I'm happy to hear you enjoy all the videos! :)
you guys have to understand that even though it’s understood that brad was trying to protect buddy, he didn’t communicate with her properly. nor didn’t he balance the “tough love” out with softness. he kept her isolated, forced her to kill without giving reason as to why she had to. of course she’s going to be scarred.
I think this game suffers from what many stories do which is the audience glorifying toxic protagonists that the writers were trying to acknowledge as bad. It happened in Bojack Horseman, Rick and Morty, and Joker. They want you to know that Brad is in the wrong. He was suffocating to the point of abuse and Buddy was only a projection of his trauma. His obsession with personal reconciliation at the expense of Buddy’s wishes and the world is BAD. He’s not a victim or a hero just because there’s depth or reasoning behind his terrible actions.
All part of the effect! I was trying to get across the idea that even though Rando was talking to Buddy, she tuned him out. That's when started thinking about climbing to the top of the list.
-She is in that phase when a girl only thinks about one thing.
-Boys?
-Homicide
Is that an Addams Family joke?
@@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257 yes
@@bruna7534 nice.
Thats funny
If she be thinking abt boys it’s how to kill em
Just like how Joy drove Brad with his inner desire to protect Buddy, Buddy is driven by her inner desire to be free, and the only way she can be free is if she kills everyone that can take that away from her.
they’d get along with eren yaeger
TATAKAE
@@spachino7351isayama cucked hard though, he had to write an avengers ending
Lets be honest, raising a little girl in that kind of fucked up world was gonna end bad no matter what Brad or Rando did...
And how unconvinient, its a place full of pervs who want a piece of her! Dangit, plot machines!
At least Brad taught her how to fight
I love rando. He seems so kind.
He and Brad were probably the most noble characters in the setting.
@@ArvelDreth wdym Brad??
@@zeetwei Brad is nice but the joy ruined him
@@zeetwei Brad is a more noble and well-intentioned character than any other in the story of either the first or second games aside from Rando.
ArvelDreth but that is not a high bar.
I noticed how potentially dangerous it was for Buzzo to have mutant Brad tied up so close to him where mutant Brad could absolutely kill Buzzo in his sleep if he wanted to. If he desired killing. But he doesn't. I think this scene shows that Brad never desired to kill or even hurt anyone during The Painful, except for Marty.
True
yeah, the joy was controling him.
thats knid of funny because by nature of being the protagonist he has by far the biggest kill count
You’re tearing me apart Lisa
Why are you so hysterical?
Youse jus a chicken! Cheep cheep cheep!
brad and buzzo in a nutshell
I feel like the main thing that could of saved Brad and Buddy’s relationship is communication. Giving her full context of the situation she would understand why she was locked up. (I mean there’s other problems too but this is kinda like the main one.)
true...whats even worse is that brad made that same mistake with sticky and dusty/rando. If he told those 3 about his traumas then maybe he could've had some support and understanding...
@@shadowboy2818 yea
@@shadowboy2818 but thats why yado choosed brad, brad is the type of guy to use drug to deal with his traumatic past instead of actual help.
That's literally what I was thinking during Marty's fight. Without that context, it just looks like he's just randomly brutally murdering a random old man for no reason
@@hellonokay1925Pretty sure it was Buzzo who chose who Buddy went to.
It's not a phase, Brad!
Lol. I bet he wishes it was!
Buddy has a point - she grew up in an environment that was dog eat dog and everyone had a plan for her, but never talked or discussed anything with her.
It was probably the Joy that did her in - hell, the title is a call back to being "Joyful". Joy gives the user the ability to act upon one's crazy desires...
I feel so bad for Rando. He doesn't want to do this.
honestly despite brad hurting buddy in how he kept her a prisoner he was the only person who really cared about her. like he wanted the best for her unlike everyone else who brad was around.
i also really despise her as even after her journey on the run meeting the residents of the world she still can't see brad tried his best to protect her from that.
This is the kind of self-aggrandizing toxic thinking that leads to abusive behavior hth
He also literally gave her the ability to fight as well as she does, and she can’t even give him that much. She would be dead if brad hadn’t taught her what he did. But she also wouldn’t have had to worry so much about having to use those skills for pure greed if she had just listened to brad and stayed inside or gone with him the several times he caught up to her. Idk how she could look at him, with his arms cut off and arrows all in him and still curse his name and say he was worthless and horrible. Because without him, she would be nothing.
@lel lol I really wanna put your commentary in a portrait. I don't know why people can't just try to see the things from Buddy's perspective! Brad had good intentions but he handled things poorly
Also, lets not forget he's an unreliable narrator. Everything we see in Painful it's super subjective, so maybe he did a lot much more of pain to Buddy than it appears to be.
@@GGKittyXO he literally forced a kid to kill people... if he was as strong as he was, why didn't he just let her be a kid and protect her through raw strength rather than abusive behavior.
@@JustHANO Because of the world they live in, he kind of had to teach her how to kill. He won't live forever, he won't always be there to protect her. The reason buddy even lives as long as she does is likely because of all that Brad taught her. He wasn't perfect, but I don't know if he can be considered abusive given the circumstances.
The Joyful is just further proof that Rando deserved better than this
I want to hug this grown man
I believe she took the joy pill and is now corrupted by it focused only on being the top to the number one
William Brown
Wait... omg.
“It doesn’t take much to begin the process.”
And it makes your desire control you mind.
And she wants to be best.
she may not be quite as far gone as brad was though, she probably only took it once or twice
@@grenien4109
brad probably took a pill every time he remembered his childhood so hed definitely gone too far
Buddy says sticky never hurt her. Not didnt touch her. Big difference.
The games currency is pornographic magazines its not far fetched to belive he groomed her.
Austin confirmed that Sticky never touched her
Just wait until you see the ending, then you'll really wonder if that's what she meant. Lol.
@@SycrithTheSquid austin says a lot of shit. He also says every single fan game is canon. and wow. If thats true there's some major continuity issues.
He also says dusty is his favorite character more likely than not in part to the controversy hes stirred. Honestly wouldn't put it past him to outright lie to just stir the pot.
@@killertrip10 I'd like to think he meant the _good_ fan games were canon (like Pointless and Hopeful)
@@SycrithTheSquid lol pointless contradicts the main game and and hopefull in the sense that bullets are rare. Lest we forget fly (amoung a ton of others in painful) and beltboy. I dunno though, maybe joels gun is like a key item that works now that he has the bullet or does 9,999,999 damage or something. Point is even the good fan games do some shit i dont think should be considered canon for the fans to call. Like Richard dying.
The end of painful and the story of joyful made me really dislike Buddy. I get that it was hard for her, but Brad really tried and she just became an emotionless monster in joyful.
Apparently its mainly because she was also taking Joy however that doesn't make her character better, Brad was likable even if he was on joy and went crazy a few times in the game.
CJCatHead yeah I actually really wish that Brad didn’t become one of those mutant things. I think he should have died trying to protect buddy.
Trying means jack shit in the end, doesn't it?
Best thing about lisa the pointless no buddy and the lisa dev said its canon
@@_Tzer lol
She took Joy, didn't she? She is getting tunnel vision too, she is becoming just like all the others.
Hopefully not.
@@duster575she said it "tasted funny" in the last game. She definitely popped a Joy.
@@duster575LISA THE HOPEFUL
She doing drugs folks
I really wish the author of this game makes an alternative version of LISA called LISA the Fateful where it shows a version of the future where the White Flash didn't happen but the results are mostly same.
I feel a lot of things would be different. I don't really see Brad locking up Buddy in a normal world unless she was like... the child of a rich person or mob boss.
The results kind of COULDN’T be the same since the plot is pretty heavily reliant on the White Flash.
I feel so bad for rando, my man deserves some love
Rando seems like the only character in this game that's worth a shit.
Although I did learn more about Buddy’s perspectives, I still don’t really like her. She was trapped in the house for majority of her but for a good reason. She’s the only young girl in a world of hungry and desperate men who couldn’t care less about taking advantage of her to please their sexual desire. This is the reason why Brad is so protective.
She was only allowed to go only when Brad is around and she had to conceal her face. Brad forced her to kill people but this is because so that she can defend herself. Though Brad himself is not off the hook either. The thing is that he doesn’t see buddy as buddy but as a second Lisa that he has to protect. He did try to stop taking joy but again, once you become an addict, it’s extremely hard to stop especially when his body keeps being dependent on it. So this kinda influenced Buddy to do the same.
I think the reasons why I still have this dislike for her is because of the way she treated Brad and also because of how unfair it is to Brad. Brad sacrificed everything for Buddy only for him to be yelled at by buddy and seeing her protecting the man who caused him, Lisa, and Buzzo years of suffering in the first place. If only Martin wasn’t such a piece of shit, all of this wouldn’t have happened in the first place. Another thing is how Brad is more sympathetic than Buddy. Brad has a terrible childhood, while Buddy (through our eyes at least) has a much better life than he did. At least Buddy actually have someone who are willing to protect her while Brad had none beside being the protector himself.
Seeing Rando frown makes me heartbroken
In Lisa the Painful: you’re fighting against monsters
In Lisa the Joyful: You are the monster.
After some rage quit, a good youtuber uploads. I can finally relax.
Nice, man! Perfect timing! I hope you enjoy and it helps you wind down!
@@SquatchGamingChannel I know, i was so satisfied when i watched the video! Keep going! I am waiting for some more! Can't wain until you start another game lore!
Crackdown's objective: Eliminate all High-ups in gangs so you can weaken the gang overall and take out their leaders.
Lisa the Joyful's objective: Eliminate all people on the lower side of the list before moving up to the top.
*hmMMMmmAMMmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM*
FireBrand _we meet again_
Honestly I kinda hate how everyone automatically views buddy as awful and Brad as just because he wanted to protect buddy. I understand that he was trying his best but in Buddy's eyes all he did was keep her sealed away and never let her see anything of the outside world. She had no real idea of how anything was and had no way to choose her own path. She had no freedom. I do agree Brad probably did the best he could in the situation and with how he was but things like his drug binges and history distance from buddy didn't help her. She was raised in a shit situation and never given any idea of why she had to be locked away. So when she is finally given a idea of how it really was, when she was finally told that she could save the world, it opened her world. She never truly understood anything really but in her eyes this was her first time she could decide anything about her life. Then in her eyes here comes Brad running in killing and destroying everything to pull her into a life she never liked in the first place, to take away any choices she has in life. Of course she would view him harshly no matter if he is trying to save her or not. He is taking away the one sliver of freedom she has ever had and forcing her back into that life she grew to hate more and more. Then when it comes to the situation when he smacked her and literally obliterated a man in front of her going into such a blind rage she managed to sail off that island in the time it took him to finally wake up. Yes I can see why she did the things she does. Never forget that joy makes you go into tunnel vision to chase after your most inner desire, that's what happened to brad in his pursuit of buddy he ignored everything that was in his path to get to her. Then buddy took joy and her own desire was to become the strongest so she can finally truly be free. This is her dash to freedom ignoring everything around her in order to get to it just as brad went after his own desire. This is the affects of joy and what happens when you give a person not a single bit of freedom and lock them away only for them to get a taste of it before being threatened to have it all pulled away from them.
If she truely went along with what the others wanted, and if brad had never gone after her the way he did buddy would go through some “really bad things”. Hardly freedom
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Recent days really haven't been great for me, so I'm very glad to see this popping up in my notifications.
Can't wait for part 2!
I know it doesn't have the happiest of subjects, but hopefully it cheered you up in a way.
Hopefully, that'll be done in a couple weeks!
Oh, I'm well aware that no topic here will be joyful -(wait)-, but just hearing a deep narrative be put into such an easy to follow form, it makes me rather happy. Definitely helped to cheer me up.
Take your time with the next parts, there's no need to rush!
Thanks, man! Hopefully, I can do the end of this game justice... It gets quite emotional during one part. Lol.
This is great,looking forward to part 2
Thanks a lot, man! Hopefully will be out in a couple weeks!
I watch these in bulk when they're all done, but wanted to stop buy to register my interest and compliments.
Alright, cool. Hopefully the next part will be done in about 2 weeks or so. Hope you enjoy when it comes out, man!
Buddy: Dad I hate you leave me alone Buddy: my dad never did shit for me time to kill the people that my dad. Was trying to kill to protect me
Aw poor rando
Yes. He's had a painful life...
@@SquatchGamingChannel yep
I legit feel the power in your voice..it's moving.
Joyful is suppose to be more about the story, less of the gameplay I presume. You think so?
Uhh... I mean... I guess? Now that you mention it, the gameplay is pretty barebones, especially for an RPG. Yeah, I would say you're right!
@@SquatchGamingChannel The ways the gameplay changes for suiting the story at least keeps you in the feel of the character. ;p
I'll agree with you there, the gameplay shift does fit the story and themes of Joyful very well!
not that it’s horrible.
It's like a 4/6 ratio
5:42 STAHP!
;)
At the first glance Brad is the monster here. But after finding out what joy did to him you realize he's not the monster. The real monster is Buddy herself.
"Brad's not a monster because he used joy"
"Buddy's a monster because she used joy"
????
Matea Banana Buddy is a monster because she’s an asshole.
@@mateabanana3506 quite the opposite, brads mind was augmented by joy while buddy was just an asshole
To be fair to Buddy, she was born into a world where everyone would be out to get her whether it be sexual assault or the pressure of keeping an entire race of people alive. She's constantly been kept hidden and told what to do by Brad, who had his reasons to keep her safe but never explaining his motive and sometimes acted out of selfish desire. In that situation someone like Buddy could be tired of their life and lash out at the world in toxic ways. The world was never kind to her so she harbored a dislike and mistrust of the people in it. Her freedom was constantly being taken away from her so she'd do anything to have a semblance of control in her life. And sure killing all those people and rejecting someone who cared about her may seem ruthless but that's the kind of life she was brought into.
The saddest part is she is a monster because of Brad
Dude your such a good narrator I feel like I’m watching a movie!
Thanks, man. Part of what I'm aiming to do! :)
Buddy is kinda horrible, she actively pushes away and manipulates Rando (Dusty), like that’s your brother! Hear him out he’s just trying to help you!! Like I get you don’t wanna be controlled by people but there’s ways of doing that, that doesn’t get people murdered or taken over the world!
Man i Think she only does this because she took some Joy as in the last chapter you could see Joy next to her in the end
Beautifully made like always Squatch. Looking forward to pt. 2
Thanks, man! Happy to hear you enjoyed!
Part two will take a couple weeks, but I promise I'm working on it!
To those arguing whether they like Brad or Buddy more, or how one or the other is terrible: I don't think it was the point of either game to make you like either. Both Buddy and Brad are ungrateful assholes. Brad was ungrateful for his friends, Buddy was ungrateful for Brad's protection. It seems a lot like Hotline Miami in the sense that everyone is terrible. There is no hero to this story, no matter who's side you're on. Well, except Rando I guess. But even Rando has probably killed people who didn't truly deserve it. He wouldn't be the leader of his own army if he didn't have the strength and reputation to back it up.
Tl;Dr, I think the moral of both stories is just, "Shit sucks. Be a pessimistic. Olathe is just a metaphor for the real world, and Hell can't be real, because we're already in it."
And that's my interpretation as an optimist. These games are 100% gloomy through and through. Honestly, unless you're a fan of being miserable and seeing gore, I don't even know why anyone would play these. I guess the humor's alright. But at the end of the day these games just left me feeling like I've been kicked in the gut.
very true, slay monarch
I've waited so long for this
Sorry for the wait! Hope you enjoyed! :)
Didn't expected a new video so fast!
Why not? It's been about two weeks since the last Lisa video! Lol.
@@SquatchGamingChannel It's still impressive to write a script, read it, record the gamplay and edit it all. Totally worth the effort
Lol. Yeah, true. It's a lot of hard work. It all pays off though! :)
I actually think it was Rick not Sticky for two reasons, Rick's already injured when Brad confronts him, and Buddy hallucinates Rick with a bandaged face near the end of this game. Which she shouldn't have seen unless she saw him again after Brad's confrontation.
Plus it'd tie back to Lisa: The First's "Tricky Rick"
Rick not Sticky for what...? Lol.
@@SquatchGamingChannel The whole touching her thing, I think Rick tried it, Sticky stopped him and feeling like she'd be victimized again unless she knew, Sticky explained to her the birds and the bees. My reasoning is that she doesn't really have a reason to defend him at that point, and Rick's never really brought up.
I was kinda hoping the DLC would have also covered Rick Sticky and Buddy's adventures during Painful but maybe that'd explain too much. Since a lotta people feel this one did already.
Yeah so Buddy is one of the most unlikable characters in the series. I hated Joyful. It was too easy, and the story sucked. The motive sucked, no reason Rando had to die .
But given the first game, I guess it's fine.
Just not sure how she doesn't know what adoption is, but knows what rape is? That makes no sense.
I'm there with you. I didn't enjoy Joyful as much as I enjoyed Painful, but I will admit there's a scene in Joyful that hits me with a lot emotion than anything in Painful.
I think those moments where Buddy doesn't know what something is is supposed to show her naiveté and ignorance. Even though she thinks she knows everything and acts as such, there's still a lot that she doesn't know. At the same time, it shows how jacked up her upbringing has been in that she knows what rape is, but not what pacifist means. Just my two cents.
@@SquatchGamingChannel personally I think painful is not being truthful to what we see as a player.
Brad's already on Joy, and I think the tragedy is he's really a terrible person. But as a player, we see his views as the hero.
As one person said, everyone is the hero in their own eyes.
I do like the joyful lore , and Rando is too pure for the world. But as a whole, I really enjoyed Brad's self torment more than Buddy's genocidal rage, lol.
I agree with you there! I think that's one of major themes of Painful. I mean, there are moments that show that Brad could be a good person, like when he saves Terry and stuff, but on the whole, he's not exactly a stand up guy. Lol.
How did buddy go from getting kidnapped and knocked out to a murder machine, not to mention so naive she was seemingly fine with said constant kiddpapping to whatever joyful was.
Nice work, as always!
Thank you very much! Happy to hear you enjoyed! :)
I will always love these lore videos squatch does
Thanks, man! But if I ever start slacking, I need you to let me know! You've got to hold me accountable!
I really do appreciate the thought, dude! Thanks so much, and thanks for watching! :)
I'd say that at the end of the day Buddy is better than Brad. Brad never learned how to cope with his abusive dad, Buddy did.
Incredible! I freaking love these videos
Awesome to hear! Thanks so much for watching! :)
Dispite Lisa being the most evil character, i will still hate buddy for how she acted towards her own brother
Nice job , keep it up!
Thank you very much! There's more to come! :)
Hey brothers! I am from the mighty Balkans too!
Balkan?
Yay LISA fans from balkans :)))
I could easily see Lisa the painful and Lisa the joyful becoming an anime series.
Ok I have a question. WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE OTHER COUNTRIES????????? Olathe can’t be the only country in the world. Sure sometimes people call Olathe the world but that’s more metaphorical. Where are the tourists,shouldn’t the government notice that there seems to be a lot of deaths in this specific country? Has no mutant EVER passed the border to other countries or died in the ocean after getting sweeped into the current and washed up on a beach in a different country? No one in the rest of the world seem to know what’s happening. Actually is the rest of the world like this? We haven’t heard about any other countries in this series of games. And we also didn’t hear about Joy manufacturing factory’s in other countries so it’s probably all made in Olathe. Like how has no one found out about this? I get that the rest of the world got flashed so no girls and their in chaos too but I doubt they would let go of all technology like planes and trains and travelling. In fact I think travelling would increase to ignore the fate of humanity.
They're all dead. Olathe is all that's left.
Rando Is the faith left in humanity. Buddy understands that control equals power. Buddy wants to control everything. So they can have power and dominion over the world. And they can make it the way they wanted to or so they think. You can take things from a man and try to make them the way you want them to be, but you cant change someone. They have to change themselves.
I found Lisa the joyful from a crossover animation between undertale and Lisa the joyful called interlopers. I'm glad I did, cuz this game is a hidden gem
I did the same. If you have finished discovering everything about the LISA series on the games, you could give a look at the art. There is plenty of talented pictures that revives the feeling about what these games represent. Sadness, blood, discoverings, etc.
I liked joyful whats wrong with her....ya she killed pacifist.
She was going genocide route
Tara Nolte now she has to fight the secret boss, sans
@U *megalovania INTENSIFIES*
@@deeznuts-kw6yv what sans? That dust in the back?
Tara Nolte F
Leroy Awar I can just imagining sans just breaking through the background like a window and annihilates buddy
"That piece of shit Brad".. damn that hurt
You know at least *this* one actually showed *Brad* doing things that messed Buddy up, and not just Buddy making the same stupid choice over and over and blaming Brad for it each time.
What program do you use to edit your audio? I know a good audio effect that can help you with those occasional 'plosive P noises.
Audacity. After I record, I use the "Noise Removal" (or its equivalent) to take out some of the static from the mic, and then hit it with a Compressor. The gain is usually turned up a bit from that, and from the explosiveness of the sound, the compressor probably doesn't get enough time to attack it to reduce it, so it's probably a result from that. Lol. Or I might be waaayyy off base, and it might be nothing like that! I'm no Audio Engineer! Lol.
What effect are you referring to?
@@SquatchGamingChannel The polosive noises are all going to be around the 50 frequency area, below regular human voice. If you were to just cut that straight out with an FFT Filter around the problem areas, it would fix the issue
Someone's done their homework while I haven't. Lol. Awesome, dude. I'll have to play around with that when I get a chance and see how it goes.
Would I be able to use the Filter to hit the entire thing and it would only hit the problem areas, or would I have to go in manually and hit the Ps and Bs myself?
@@SquatchGamingChannel I bet you could just hit the whole thing and the only difference you'd hear is less harsh P and B noises.
Great video as always man. I recentna subscribed and I only wish you had more subscribers, because you definetly deserve them
Awesome to hear that, man! Thank you very much!
I'm sure I'll get there eventually. Just have to keep working hard and doing the best I can! Thanks for the support! :)
Great stuff! Keep it up!
Thanks a lot! I'm trying my best! :)
Thanks for watching!
Ah crap... I caught up.
Now I have to *wait* for the next one 😓
Jeez, I'm so impatient
Thanks for the content though dude, it's a great ride so far
Lol. Sounds like a good problem to have! ;)
I'm working on the next part now, and I'm trying to get it finished as quickly (while maintaining the quality) as possible! Sorry for the wait!
@@SquatchGamingChannel No worries, take your time dude. This stuff's hard work. Good luck.
Thanks, man! :)
I aM a StRoNg InDePeNdEnT wOmAn
Lol
Your opinion doesn’t count since you’re using a sans profile picture
Carrots are good for you
No u
Reminder to waggle your willy for your kaiser Willy
I liked the dlc but the only problem I had with it was how they presented the answers they were more straight forward rather than subtle still good dlc
One of my main complaints as well. I like it when there's still a bit of mystery to the story.
Thanks for watching, Martin!
it wasnt like hmm this guy uses armstrong techniques i wonder who he is but more like;
hey my name is dustin and some certain person that you will find out later sawed my face off
oh and also i came back from the dead twice
Exactly! I remember the feeling I had when I saw Dusty with his mutilated face in the Painful ending. It blew me away, and made the fight against Rando so much sadder...
I can't wait to see the story summaries of lisa the hopeful
Haven't decided if I'm doing the Fan Games yet. I'll be doing character biographies after this Story Summary is finished.
Well, if you don't do story summaries about the fan game
I have no problem
You are the one making the video
I'm the one that does not have a life so spends his time watching RUclips
Yeah, we'll see where we're at, but that's a decision for Future Dustin to make. We'll let him handle it. :)
my patience has been rewarded; thank you.
Thank you for being so patient, and thank you for watching! Just thank you in general! :)
Buddy is the Villain but after learning she was born from one.... she decided to try and stop.
Yaaay Sqautch Is Back!!
Great video, I just found this channel the other day, but I'm liking your style of videos.
Are you going to make videos on the "Hopeful" and "Pointless" fangames as well?
Thank you! Happy to hear you're enjoying everything!
I've thought about it, but I'm not really sure yet. The plan for now is story summaries for the Painful and Joyful, then I'll be making "Biography videos" (what I call em, they're probably more "lore videos") for most of the characters between these two games. After I'm finished with those, I'm going to assess some things before deciding if I'll do the fan games, or if I'll be moving to a new series.
Thanks for watching, by the way! I appreciate it!
How did this child get a large vocabulary?
Loved the vid man!
Brad was so obsessed with protecting Buddy's childlike innocence, always saying "she's just a kid" in LISA: The Painful, he inadvertently ended up being the one who corrupted her and turned Buddy into a monster. He really did end up hurting her the most, mentally at least. Though the flashback with the tied up man implied he had her fight full grown men to the death, in a controlled environment, probably only stepping in if it looked like she was close to being killed by the scared and desperate prisoners beating and bashing at her. So physically too.
He didn t hurt her at all he taught her valuable survival skills to kill
It s like ur parent never teaching u to speak or communicate
Brad did everything he could to protect her but due to his addiction he didn t see what was he doing wrong
But buddy is just a teenage bitch she hated a man who given up everything for her
when you done with this awsome game can you make the "the last door:
I think someone else recommended that game to me. It's a horror game, right? Idk, man... I'm not a fan of horror games cause I'm a scaredy cat. Lol.
@@SquatchGamingChannelits a point and click puzzle game there just few jump scares (probly two) play the first chapter than its your choice
I'll have to give it a shot when I have time!
What's the song that plays around 5:27?
9:10 Why does your audio cut out? What did you say during that?
It's meant to be an effect that demonstrates that Buddy isn't listening to Rando anymore. Wasn't saying anything important.
Damnit! I didn’t have my phone when this was uploaded ;-;
It's alright! It's still here! Hope you enjoy! :)
Havent even watched this yet and screamin hellz yea. Gonna save it for late night snackin.
Why does buddy always have bed hair?
No water, no shampoo
She’s just not worth it
Damn, when the fuck did Buddy become a badass?
I mean, grim story and all, but shit. She's kickin ass.
She picked up a sword after waking up to a joy mutant Brad get taken away and chose
*Violence*
Dusty was a a bit obvious
Oh my god Mr. Beautiful looks like Asahara, a Japanese cult leader
What happened to your audio around 9:20?
There's this part of me that likes Buzzo
I must say I dislike what they did to the warlords character as in the painful he was a such a mysterious yet intimidating character but 10 minutes into the joyful he just turns into some wimpy dude and all mysteriousness for him is lost
Uh... I think he just got mauled by a joy mutant that maybe sorta crippled him.
That's his character. He's just a good guy
That's his character. He's just a nice guy. you are just stupid.
brad hates his father but was a bad father to buddy, buddy hates brad but she ended doing almost exactly what he did... like father like daughter.
It's the cycle of abuse,
Marty, Brad, Buddy, they all became monsters because of their pent up grief and problems and taking it out on those closest to them, causing other’s grief and problems
Whooo. Love it!
Awesome to hear, man! Thanks for watching! :)
you shoulda done a summary for lisa the hopeful
Rando's a better man than Brad is... Any pity for the former leader of the Rando Army?
When you realize that Randos friend Bob is Bob Friday
I’m starting to think Sticky left something sticky on Buddy...
Awsome video love the Joy Mutants
Yeah, they're pretty crazy, my dude. Thanks for watching and commenting as much as you have. I appreciate it, and I'm happy to hear you enjoy all the videos! :)
Brad did nothing wrong. He knew she will kill everyone off the list. She doomed the humanity.
Like father like daughter, a monster's a monster.
Good job
Thank you very much! Happy to hear you enjoyed! :)
@@SquatchGamingChannel np thanks for making it! Can't wait to see part 2
9:51 one of them look like one of Brad's childhood friend.....
(Forgotten his name)
yeah, did you forget from lisa the painful that rick and sticky work for Rando? (i said work together accidentally lol)
Yeah, he does look similar to Rick! (Pretty sure that's who you're thinking of)
you guys have to understand that even though it’s understood that brad was trying to protect buddy, he didn’t communicate with her properly. nor didn’t he balance the “tough love” out with softness. he kept her isolated, forced her to kill without giving reason as to why she had to. of course she’s going to be scarred.
I think this game suffers from what many stories do which is the audience glorifying toxic protagonists that the writers were trying to acknowledge as bad. It happened in Bojack Horseman, Rick and Morty, and Joker. They want you to know that Brad is in the wrong. He was suffocating to the point of abuse and Buddy was only a projection of his trauma. His obsession with personal reconciliation at the expense of Buddy’s wishes and the world is BAD. He’s not a victim or a hero just because there’s depth or reasoning behind his terrible actions.
What happend to buddy yall😭 why she so violent now😢
Yay finally!
Sorry about the wait! Hope you enjoyed! :)
Squatch Gaming Official I most certainly did
Ziggy Hixson Your profile picture is a crime against humanity
Generic Protagonist well Breen did just promote me so I can’t help but smile
a girl gets into a rampage because she's in her days-the videogame
Lol. I guess so, but there's more to it than that, I think. Haha.
I dont even know what is the joke in here...
I’m back, months later
Just wondering, who’s the guy who mutilated Dustin’s and Buddy’s face? Is this an important character or what?
Most probably Buzzo, still in the idea to hurt Brad indirectly.
Cat Chubby Ah, I didn’t think of buzzo at all
Oh by the way, your audio kind of went weird around 9:14.
All part of the effect! I was trying to get across the idea that even though Rando was talking to Buddy, she tuned him out. That's when started thinking about climbing to the top of the list.