He Won't STAY In The TRAILER!
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2022
- In this video Ryan helps Judy get her horse Cowboy comfortable staying in the trailer.
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Can I join without having a horse? I love watching these videos.
I love that she showed the 2 weeks later and is doing so well!
Me too
I don’t think that horse respects her at all. I wonder how he is with her out on trail alone. That’s always a good test.
This has nothing to do with a respect issue. It's a timing issue. As we age we slow down. I know, I live it every day. With horses timing is very important!
As usual, it isn't a horse problem but a people problem. She improved once being told or shown what to do. Good job!
This method got my horse back into a trailer faster and with less stress than anything else I've tried or watched.
All I can say is OMG !! Long story short, our horse was the same exact way! Other people had tried to get him in the trailer by force, which I didn't like, but I'm a rookie to horse ownership. I have been watching a ton of videos on learning how to become partners with our horses. TODAY !! I watched this video went out and worked with our Pablo about 40 min like Ryan said, after working him on the ground for a about 30 minutes...and shazam in the trailer he went!! I'm so excited !! I wish I would've done a video !! We've had him for about 5 months and never had him in the trailer. We got him from the neighbors so only had to walk him down the road. Thank you Ryan !! I appreciate all your videos and help for this rookie!
Right thing easy, wrong thing hard.
This horses only issue is that he has learnt to ignore his owner
Exactly. She is too small/weak/soft with him. He knows who the boss is.
@@jamesethan3749 But she, too, is a work in progress, and at the end I saw improvement in both her AND the horse. I think she'll get it. Especially if she practices and keeps learning from Ryan. Also, I bet she's more assertive when not in front of the camera, at home.
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What a load of crap, strength is forcing not training
@@sallypenno164 I think he is referring to *intention* rather than strength...bit like us as kids knowing which teachers you could mess about with and which teachers really meant stuff and you wouldnt dare cross them.
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Thank you!
The entire method is flawed. Horses are expected to correctly guess what they are to do. Then they are punished for failing to read the human mind correctly. Unfair.
It is nice to see a straight load trailer being used for this. So many times it is slant load or stock trailers being used. Great video! Very helpful!
Very nice and roomy trailer for him.
Had a horse who presented the opposite problem - at shows he would untie himself and go and raid all the other trailers. Hard to find him sometimes
Playing hide and seek 😆
My horse wont stay in the trailer, so i was looking and came across this video. I must say, this is great. No hard pressure, no hitting, just giving a consequence to an action. That is amazing! I will try this with my mare!
Very nice horse! He is a little pushy when just handling...sure seems to have some go to him. So glad you were able to diagnose the issues and Judy seemed to get it! A real talent to be able to get to the heart of a problem and give direction to correct and move on.
He’s got her number. 😉
This is exactly where my horse is. He will walk in but won't stay in. He has traveled a couple of times an was quite stressed in travel. He is highly suspicious of being locked in. I have started working woth this method, pattern. I have signed up to your patron page. I will send in my video😅
I've seen horses that don't want to load, because they've been slammed around in a trailer by crazy drivers!!
The truth!
One trip in a trailer with a nut at the wheel and most will never load in a trailer again.
Thank you Judy for allowing us to share in your session.
Amen!
Part of this horse's issue is handler made. First thing she does is turn and look at the horse when she gets in trailer. That's like asking horse what it thinks yall should do. Plus many folks turn and face horse's when backing. It's giving mixed signals. The rest of the solution Ryan offered was great. Pressure vs relief.
It’s interesting that it was not the trailer the issue.
Yeah, good goin' Judy! This is a super good principles lesson. Thank you Ryan, as ever.
Awesome work, Judy! Love that she showed the improvement at home.
Always a great day when we get an upload from you!😊
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I like the fact that you want to make the horse stay in there and feel comftorble on his own instead of work is done "less close the doors".
Judy showed much pride when she smiled at the very end of the video.
It's crazy seeing how he learned so fast whe. It was someone who knew what they're doing. When the lady tried he was like wtf you want me to do lady cause she didn't know the correct technique he was waiting for her to signal. So cool.
The horse new all along how to do it. He has just been taught the wrong things along the way on top of it. A knowledgeable handler will be able to convey to the horse the message and the horse will remember exactly how to do it. Inexperienced handlers add confusion with indirect messages aswell
we all need ballet classes for improved coordination. great job!
Great Video. Cowboy is a good looking steed.
This guy looks like a complete angel compared to my swamp donkey 😒 I’ve had him 10 years, and there hasn’t been a single time where it’s taken any less than 45 mins to load. If I have to leave by 11 am, I know I have to start loading by 9. It’s become quite ridiculous. I think I have decent feel and timing when it comes to pressure and release. I’ve even trailer trained other horses in my area. I just can’t win with mine. If you’re ever in Maryland, I’ll pay you to come by or I’ll come meet you somewhere!
Great job! A good learning situation! Amazing! So difficult but yet, so easy!
Love the follow up at the end. Good job all 3 of you.
Great video and thanks for showing the follow-up. I always learn something from you. Thanks!!
I love your approach with horses! 👍🏻
Love the VERY end! Congratulations on a well-learned lesson.
Awesome Judy!!!🎉
Ryan is such an awesome hooman trainer...as well as training hosses. So patient and oodles of empathy.
Thank you! Excellent tips! Very helpful!!!
Beautiful!
Loved seeing them after two weeks. I think they’ve got it!!!!! 😁
Well done!!! Great video, really good psychology xx
Nice!! It's always nice when you're the coach and your client sends you a video of them being successful with your techniques!
Great job Judy!!!😃
Great insight into the mind of this horse.
Ryan Rose, you are my "go to"! "signing up" love it!
Thank you so much for using behavioral terms correctly 😍
Thank you! I like the view from the camera in the trailer too... sure helps with the perspective!
Cool beans! She looked great two weeks later. It's hard for use older gals when it's just us and nobody else around! I know I do it often, 😃!
Super helpful video. My mare is great about trailers but has been confused about loading in a straight load trailer after always having a slant. This should help me clear things up for both of us! Thank you!
I really appreciated this one! I have a horse that does the EXACT same thing, and I thought it was straight load claustrophobia. Now, I really think it's just not understanding to give to the feel and that he's learned to lean. Needless to say, he will be going to boot camp lol!
Amazing
You seem to have the patience of Job ! Training the horses is so much easier than training the riders. I mean no disrespect to the owners…I respect the fact that they came to you for help 💕👍
I liked how you explained the prey (horses) know we are the predator and that means trap … very good way for me to understand as I train!
Nice Judy!!!
Love watching! Psychology works on animals as well as humans! Good job!😄
"you predator, you." I laughed so hard! We've all been there. Good coaching!
lol me too!
I am also having trailer loading issues with my 4 year old that I got 4 months ago. I can't wait to use your technique and hopefully nip this in the bud.
Have you tried this yet? I'm curious as to your outcome! I hope it ends as well as ours did! I'm a HOR for sure now!! Hooked on Ryan !!!
Had a straight load where mine just busted out every time. He never, ever got comfortableloading in an enclosed straight load..finally had to get a stock trailer, and voila, he will load easier and seems more comfortable now in the open stock trailer.
A great many horses cannot travel comfortably with their legs aligned. They must spread their hind legs apart for balance.
Put them into a straight load where they cannot do that and they will either not load, having learned that they are not comfortable from earlier experience, or they will scramble and panic when moving. After a trip like that they will not load.
Straight load trailers, especially those with a solid center upright, are too narrow for horses.
judy slays
Where is the previous video of him? I can't find it! Though I could have sworn I saw it beforehand.
I love this video! I have a 5 yo gelding that is a perfect example of leaning back on too much pressure. If you put too much pressure he will just sit on it. And can definitely win that battle.
I need to get better on my "feel" and slowing down. Also need a stick and string.
Just had this gelding to refuse to get back on the trailer after an off the farm riding event. Was terrible. A trainer was there, got him on in 2 minutes. Definitely proof the humans need the training!
Ryan I just love your training techniques.
I have had to work with many horses that scramble once on the trailers, and I have observed people driving small trailers not considering their horses at all
The worst being a young filly so off balance she climbed over the front bar and lost an eye.
I think it would be wonderful if you could review pulling a trailer correctly. Thank you for all you do.
I think the people should be put in the trailer and someone drives it the way they do. That would be an eye opening experience for them.
Favorite memory lane quote from today's video, reminding me of my, thankfully ex, ex-wife: "I lunged the snot out of him this morning..."
I'd be curious what you'd say the split is for who you are training, horse/owner. I know I need to learn more than the horse most of the time. Great info!
A challenge for sure.
How would you go about this in a slant load since they could turn around
I learnt A L-O-T from this video. A lot of, what not to do. What to avoid. Wow
I don't understand the rope halter vs regular nylon. Is there a pressure on nose or top of head with rope?
Please come work to Michigan to work with my horse 😭😭😭
No one else was taught that it's super unsafe to haul a single horse on that side??
I think it's only for this training, because we are right handed. You are right though, for those who don't know: for countries where you drive on the right hand side of the road, you should always load the horse on the left side, or in the case of two horses, the heaviest one on the left. Loading in the right side may cause your trailer to topple when swerving into the verge of the road.
I need help getting my horse to back out of the trailer
Owner acts angry....horse senses it....
the first thing I always wonder is what kind of 'ride' does he get when he is in there or is he being taken someplace really doesn't want to go..... Does he have a reason ?
"You predator you" IM DEAD!!!!!!
I don't understand the title. Watched an Episode of Heartland. The horse was fine when they opened the front door. The horse was afraid of being enclosed. Once the horse felt safe he would load with no problem.
Don't try to make him stay in, you predator you!😂😂😂
U should be loading the horse on the high side of the trailer
training the owner
If he had white on his legs he’d look exactly like my horse😍
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This poor lady just needs a smaller horse. She is way too small and weak to handle this guy. 😅
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Well as a human you're too small and weak to handle even a small pony. They outweigh and outmuscle us easily, even Shetland ponies. You can only lead a horse when it lets you. That's why we've invented studchains that go over the gums of the teeth in extreme cases. If a horse doesn't want to follow the feel of the halter, it won't, and it can easily drag you. Even the little ones. The size of the horse doesn't matter. They are all so much stronger than us. That's why good training is so, so very important
Too many people buy horses before learning to be a confident leader. With the horse!
It’s a people problem, not a horse problem, 9 x’s out of 10 is my guess!
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Good video except I noticed right off that she was trying to load him with her in his space....you never mentioned that but you also never tried to load him while standing in his trailer space...you loaded using the other side. To me that was her first mistake for her safety.
My mustang is the opposite of this horse My mustang wouldn't come out! Lol 😆
Just me but I don't like the center poll in trailer.
So you just get real passive aggressive with them. I can do that.
I do lots of horse loading lessons in Sydney Australia. Similar principles, if the horse decides to come out I bring him all the way out and put some sweat and puff on him. If I ask him to come out we get all four feet off and relax.
That's way too much horse for her, he has no respect for her, soon as she gets him home, he'll do the same thing.
As most clinicians say, it's more about the human training... anytime I hear humans talk to their horse's like a 1.5 snauzer, it's a red flag...
The longer I am in the horse world, the more I realize there are a lot of emotionally distressed people who are not doing horses any favours. It is almost like they think "horse therapy" will help them. What about the poor horse, go to a therapist for your emotional issues, and then learn how to treat this horse properly. As soon as is owner is near him he freaks out, I see this at my barn all the time. You are causing him stress.
Why is he being loaded on the wrong side? And what the heck would she do if he jumped on and rushed to the front of the trailer? That’s dangerous having him jump in right on top of you.
Wrong side? No wrong side. Right side is commonly the side used when loading a single horse in a double trailer in countries with right sided traffic.
@@Seleuce Actually, because roads are ‘crowned’ (curved, with the center of the road being the highest point for drainage), in a two horse straight trailer the horse is normally loaded on the left side. In places where you drive on the right.
The weight of one horse on the right side pulls the trailer more to the right. Even on a wide freeway with a center divider, the roadway slopes to the right for drainage, and the horse should be on the left to reduce the weight on the right side of the trailer.
It’s easier to train a horse to the right side because we normally lead from their left. But, once you have them trained to the right side, you should train to the left side as well. Some horses will start scrambling when on the right side, especially when they’re trailered alone.
I’ve always loaded horses on the left when trailering one horse alone.
@@lottiestanley7696 maybe where you live, but unless I'm on a huge highway our roads aren't crowned at all. I've used both sides with a single horse and none of them care one way or the other.
@@casdragon_5939 she's still right though. If you have to swerve to avoid something like oncoming traffic and have your right wheels in the verge of the road, the weight of the horse can make it topple. It's dangerous loading a horse on the right side when trailering them alone. If you trailer two horses, make sure to load the heaviest one on the left.
he uses some (not all) of the methods used with a dog ... both a horse and dog are 'lower animals' to be conditioned ... they are not 'thinking'. Her 'good boy, buddy' is ignorant nonsense ... a horse is a lower animal to be conditioned and NOT talked to in English like a child.
Horses are not toys, if you dont have the phisical skill to handle them you should just stop
What's the point of backing him up as an intended punishment? He already knows how to back up when uncomfortable! Punishing him with a whip to make him back up because that's unpleasant CONFIRMS in his mind what he already does voluntarily. Pretty soon he will back up in a very great hurry to avoid getting punished: that's what being punished to force him to back up teaches him!
And he will not be disorientated by a being chased in a small circle before being headed to the trailer again.
....I feel like you didn't even watch the video, and listen to understand.
Where did he whip the horse? What I saw was, the horse being tapped on chest there was no whipping involved. There is a big difference between a tap and whipping. Maybe you should watch and pay better attention.
@@patzeuner8385 Where did I use the word "whipping"? I didn't.
Maybe you should read more carefully.
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The concepts referenced and involved, which explain the equine thought process, are more than 500 years old.
There has been nothing "new" in horsemanship and equitation in all of those centuries with the exception of Caprilli's approach to riding at large and over obstacles and he revolutionized those concepts more than a hundred years ago.
There's no 'punishment' all he did was encourage the horse to change his way of thinking. His discomfort was the trailer and he has learned that backing up relieved that discomfort. So now asking him to back up is that uncomfortable pressure and when asked to approach and load onto the trailer he that's when he can find relief.
Not going to waste 19 minutes watching a horse that won't stay in the trailer. Just guessing he has experienced a really horrible experience loading in a trailer. Haul him in a trailer that is less claustrophobic or don't haul him at all.
My horse had the same issue. They naturally don't like to go into tight spaces. You have to make the trailer seem like a better option than being worked outside the trailer. Now she loads like an angel. There is also some respect component. So if the horse doesn't respect you with ground work that can also work against you.
weird flex but OK
This Is abuse you don't hit the horse to back
He didn't want to go in he wasn't excited
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What do you suggest? Write them a 15 page essay as to why they should stay on the trailer?
I really enjoy your videos.......good cowboy knowledge
HEY RYAN!:
You ever consider doing a video on how to encourage higher stepping feet on concrete-hooved horses? My horse does not give two damns about cavelettis, and will knock them off/over every time. 😂💀🤌🏽
Love the relationship I am building with my horse with your teachings.