Horse Won't Load After Injury in the Trailer
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2020
- Our mare, Josey, has had rough experiences with trailer loading. See how Ryan pushes her reset button, and helps show Josey that the trailer can be a place of relief.
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The trailer videos always make me think of the Buck story and how someone told him you can do anything with s carrot. 🤠
Oh my, your explanation why you have her stop partially in, partially out is true!
I purchased a 15 year old gelding and when I hauled him home, I didn't see his anxiety while he rode in the slant load trailer. He seemed like a perfect gentleman.
That all changed when I loaded him into my straight load trailer at home a week later! He would load but he would not back out! When he did exit out, he reared, fell out of the trailer and landed upside down.
Following the instruction of a "horsemanship" instructor, I did exactly what you did with her. It took us an hour. He was soaked with sweat even though I had never used a stick or whip or hit him with the lead line. I stayed calm but consistent.
We did circles outside the trailer then I asked him to stand only in front of the ramp. I followed the nose-neck-then the feet method. I had him back up at each level. Like I said, it took an hour.
I knew he understood when he walked in with his body relaxed and he wanted in the trailer as if it was his stall. I saw the change in his mind! He backed out quietly. I threw the lead over his back and pointed and he went in, standing inside until I slightly put pressure on his nose and he backed out calmly.
I was so emotional, crying, hugging on his soaking wet neck! We never had a problem again.
Yeah, I could have bought a slant-load trailer and I never would have seen his anxiety. But this was a mountain we both climbed and the learning we both experienced at the end of that hour built a deep bond of trust.
My Arab is now 30, still looks wonderful but he is retired from trail rides and trips across the country.
You are an excellent communicator with the horse and the rider.
Thank you
I absolutely love how kind and fair you are to the horses.
Thanks 👍😀
So basically you teach them the horse hokey pokey and they'll load effortlessly. Makes total sense! I soooo want to try this!
This video is 6 months old and here I am rooting for her while she's progressing!🤣😊
Really awesome video. I have a thoroughbred that is just like this horse and is so nervous about trailer loading. I am going to do this and make it his decision to get in. Everyone that has helped me has used pressure and at 1200-1500 pounds we arnt going to win.
My horse loaded like a charm. Then he has at decided no more. Just walked and wouldn't load anymore. Not sure why. Maybe because we went to too many vet appointments and shows. Or it might have been associated with he got tied in his stall because his manners were so bad (herd bound anxiety) and needed to learn to stand tied but all that did was boost his anxiety. He stopped loading days after that and it went on for months. I started using your approach last week to retain him to find relief in the trailer and after am hour he loaded 3 times easily! More sessions to follow before we need to haul to a show in May
Sir, you should have way more Subs than you do!!! Great teacher and very knowledgeable! 👏👏👏🐎
He sucks he doas not know how to get a horse in the trailer you want to know go to
@@kaylacosgrove8508 take your hateful trash talking out of here. Don't like it dont watch!
I know right? People don’t know anything about horses. I think he did a great job
@@kaylacosgrove8508 As I noted in my own comment, IMHO this wasn't Ryan's best work. But he absolutely does NOT suck. He is very knowledgeable, very enlightened, very adaptable to individual horses, which you would know if you watched more of his videos. Watching this one doesn't qualify you to judge him. Commenter Flynn is right, he should have way more subscribers than he currently does and I think he will eventually. I'm a huge fan of Warwick Schiller (100K+ subs) which is probably why he recently showed up on my feed. It will happen for him too. I don't love the fact that you need to support RR via Patreon to see the followups to some of the YT videos, but it's better than paying $30/month for a video subscription, which is what I did for awhile with WS.
I have the same issue people tell me to feed my horse in there my horse will not go in there so this is a great video for me this looks like my horse and her stuff and it’s not her fault she has a bad experience as other people so thank you again Ryan
These are good real experience videos.. more people need to be aware that nothing is perfect with teaching horses, or bonding with them. This is down to earth 🌍 real training and effort.
Such a good trainer, patience, patience, love this
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. A tiny thing a day. I had a rough horse when I was a kid. He was a draft cross. I learned that 50 years later. Laid back as it comes. Grew up on a farm. One day dad told me to pen up the horse, he was letting the puppies out. We, I had a stall I put him in but he had other ideas and burst out. Immediately stopped moving as 9 springer spaniel puppies ran around his feet.
And this is how it's done! You are kind and considerate with this mare. Your assessment and training skill level is very impressive. I enjoy your videos. I am in my 60's and have been a trainer and riding instructor for 30-plus years. I refer many of my equine acquaintances to your videos. You are the kind of trainer that is making a difference. Thank you for your goodness.
I’m heading out to try this - Right Now! Sooo good! I want my horses to find relief in the trailer and associate the trailer with pressure release. (Because we don’t have to be somewhere today.) Great reminder. Super stuff, Ryan! I so appreciate the narrative as you conduct the demo. This is so helpful!
What a stunningly beautiful mare. Bless her. 🖤
Nicely done!
Terrific, as usual, thanks Ryan
Hopefully you and that horse are having great times ♡
You usually keep the hot lava going until the horse decides they've had enough, and slow down, and stop reacting, basically, changing their minds, and saying "OK, I'll give it a try". I think she's more set in her way, than you give her credit for. I've also not finished watching, and I know you'll get her past this fear she has. I'm an old Alberta cowboy, and I've never seen anyone get into the head of a horse, like you do. I once had a horse for a best friend, and hunting buddy. Got him as a green broke, 3 yr old standard-quarter horse gelding, and rode him on the eastern slopes of the Rockies, in sasquatch country, west of Red Deer Ab. Hunted with him for 12 yrs, had a head injury, and couldn't ride him right, after, so we parted ways. Boy, I miss him. Great job, thanks.
This is so so helpful! Thank you for this
Awesome as always! Patient but consistent! You rock! Thanks again! 😎
Beautiful mare
Gosh she is a stunner!!!
Love how patient you are and the method you have developed. Awwww it is so quiet and effective!
Thanks for all the great videos Ryan Rose what a great name you have too
Love your lessons. Beautiful horse. Love a beautiful buckskin ❤️
iv been following you for a while finally wanted to leave a comment. i love your style it really resonates with mine!
I am struggling with this same issue with my Walker. He will load but then blast back out immediately. As soon as he feels even a little bit on the halter, he pulls back and rushes out! He had a bad pull back incident a few months ago which I feel contributed a lot to his issue now. Thank you so much for this video!! My animal is not an exception.
I love your horse training. You are a great teacher. Thank you for putting your videos on you tube.
Top Notch Buddy!
Thanks
My daughter tried this technique today and it worked , thanks so much for sharing this useful information, we’re so happy that my daughter’s pony loaded without stress 😀😀
Cool! Great job
Thank you thank you thank you
I like very much how you stay calm through the exercise, not being aggressive and not putting too much pressure on this horse ) contrary to some other trainers )
Great video! I absolutely believe you that food/treats are not the answer in this situation!
Ugh this was goooood
Thanks
My horse loads on a cattle trailer but refused the ramp on the back of a horse trailer. After watching this video I went out and tried this technique and after the 3rd time of him refusing and backing him up, the next time he walked up the ramp! I let him relax, then unloaded him. Tried to load him again and after one refusal he went on again. This technique works.
Great job
My horse loaded perfectly. I could do it alone. Took no time at all. After I trailered her to my last lesson she loaded perfectly but the next time a few days later she was totally obstinate; it took forever to load her. I went on the trail ride I loaded her for and then she was again obstinate and gave us a lot of problem getting back in to go home. She is not afraid of the trailer but she makes it impossible to get her contained (put up the divider on the slant load). Making her uncomfortable miving around etc away from the trailer makes her more obstinate… she know what it’s about.. lol! I’m trying to feed her in it again but she is super suspicious. She is super smart… seriously smart. It has to be her idea. I’m going to try to go slower like he says. It’s so frustrating when she was so perfect to have her suddenly be unloadable. She did not have a bad experience. It seems she just doesn’t want to leave the other horses or home. I was hoping she’d realize she always comes back in a few hours. I guess not. Any thoughts?
Our 4 year old gelding went in to the slant load trailer, we hooked him up, he went berserk, reared and snapped the halter ring, sliced his face flipped over backwards in the trailer with me there, I had to open the gate so he could get up. Now he can NOT be tied anywhere, nor goes near the trailer.
Great info!!! Most trailer training focuses on loading but you normally don't get help with settling the horse down once it's in. My horse has extreme anxiety in there and I won't put him through that again at his age but I need to learn for the next horse. It's fairly easy to learn how to load them but how do you make them comfortable in there. Would love to see a follow up video on her progress.
You bet, thanks
You are assuming a lot :" I won't put him through that again at his age "
Finally a trailer loading video showing exactly what my horse does however this approach takes a daily practice for 2 wks before he will even get all 4 feet in. Is the 30 sec of uncomfortable pressure enough time for them to realize where the comfortable place is? Thank you, I need a lot of help with helping him to overcome his fear.
how long do you work on it each time? what's the realistic timeframe? I'm worried about fires and my horse is anxious about loading. Want to get this taken care of so if we do have a emergency I won't have to stress.
Love the video. I have just pasted the loading issue : Its the back bar and ramp closure she starts to worry about, Any guidance would be greatly received, Thanks
I agree! I’m not a fan of using cookies as a training method. Especially when they don’t hold food at the top of their list!!
4:12 Don’t forget about someone with a broom
Exactly job
I had a horse just like her n noting worked even working her before putting her in tailer she just stay at barn now.. I will try this with her
Don’t know if my gelding was in an accident or not. We practiced this all day last Sunday. Was able to get him loaded on Tuesday for trip to vet after working with him for two days.
He was acting just like her before loading. He tries but wants to back out immediately.
Mr Rose thank you for showing your trailer loading solutions.
I have 2 questions. Now I live in Australia, but I really like your trailer. What sort is it? Ours don't appear to have anywhere near the amout of room that yours does.
2nd question. How do I know, that im not teaching horse to come in and out again. I don't want my pony to learn step on, step off. And it becoming a bit of a dance type thing when loading.
this was my horse basically he reared in the trailer and hit his head and he was still tied when he tried to step out and then he slipped out of his halter i did not find this video till now but i solved his problem now
Ryan I can't find the original video this relates to trailer loading. I'm assuming that any horse that you finally get to load and stand in the trailer, is it not a good idea just rub them on their neck and basically all over and get them feeling really comfortable after they have settled for a few moments.
How long did you spend on this session? I realised it’s not a quick fix but just curious how long you spend each time? Love your videos ❤
my mare i have in right now is like this mare here.
She looks like Spirit
She does, pretty mare
Why don’t you have both doors open?
What happene’s if you don’t have arena dirt out of the trailer?
My mare has always loaded like a dream, but whenever she’s tied up, anywhere, she paws- a lot! How can I help her calm down?
I have a horse that is fine going in, staying in & traveling but as soon door is opened, he will set back, break halter and explode out of the trailer. If I untie him before opening gate then he explodes out as soon as he hears gate open. He's a big horse and has hurt himself trying to turn around or rearing or falling as he exits. Will this exercise help? I have a stock trailer.
I have a gelding who is almost exactly like this mare. Watched your video and applied it. We’ve been working on loading for the last month with your technique and he will now get all the way in and stay in with me for 20 minutes licking and chewing. But he will not let us close the slant divider. The second we try, he moved backwards out the trailer. Advise?
Hey Ryan, We are new Horse owners got one for my 14 year old that's competing in roping. The horse is 12 and we got a new trailer to pull him, but when he gets in he is kinda rowdy, meaning I feel like he is stomping and moving from side to side. Any advice
Thank you I am planting on adopting a yearling Mustang soon . First big deal for me and my Mustang is getting Him in the trailer. I will have to hire someone to transport Him . Do you have any contacts here in Northern California? Reno Nevada BLM or Devil’s Garden in Alturas . He will come home to Penryn Oaks Stables . Penryn , California. Please let me know who you recommend? Thank you, Laura 🐴💜🐴
My horse loads well but tends to explode like a bat out of hell unloading.
So, 5 months later, has there been any progress? 😊
He actually hasn't been off site in a couple years
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I can't find the
How is this mare with the trailer now ?2021 👍
A friend of mine gives her new owner lessons and I’ve heard she’s doing great. Thanks
That’s good but what if she thinks outside is bad now
My horse tore a ligament when she freaked out at the trailer. We dont know why but she had to be lead out nose first or she flies out backwards. Its pretty scary.
What could you do if your horse just freezes or even tries to kick you when you make it uncomfortable?
Teach her to respect your space. Make her move. Whoever moves the other’s feet is the lead horse, including you.
What does the lick and chew mean???? That the horse ‘s anxiety is waning and horse is feeling more relaxed???……….that is my best conclusion. Does the horse putting it’s head down also mean the same is happening???? Yes, I am a newbie. Just trying to gain some knowledge as to what various horse controlled movements mean behaviorally. Can any one of you here recommend a channel that teaches newcomers the basics about horse behavior and what it means????
She's beautiful. Looks like my girl, Nixie, with just a few differences.
Hi
Hi...
I have been trying to help my horse stand and feel comfortable in the trailer. I'm in no hurry. I've been feeding his morning grain in there. He now walks in with no hesitation. He now however takes a bite and backs up just enough preventing me from closing the devider. Should I stop feeding? How do I stop him from backing up? Stick on the butt?
stop feeding grain...fees hay pellets or horse treats or something which does not feed the fire...the horse at this point does not need more energy.
@@johnalcorn2967 Hi John. Thank you. In some of his video's he mentions "horse university" is that the platform I would pay into to take advantage of all his offerings?
Found him on Patreon...thank you.
@@stitchedlogos I do not know who this guy is and i didnt see about the Horse University but if he is asking you to pay for his channel or some such i would not do that. There is plenty of free training videos available. My advice to you Cindy is look at them. Then find a suitable trainer near you and get some in person support after you did your research. Find what makes you feel good in your soul. do that.
Except my horse won’t get in the trailer
Sometimes backing her or the horse into the trailer is another option you have.
This is my horse, only the scar is on her forehead!!!
Why don’t you open both doors to make the trailer look bigger and brighter? Most horses are claustrophobic and a narrow door wouldn’t be very inviting.
Depends on the trailer. For some the other door only opens into a small storage closet.
As the earlier commenter noted, the other door probably leads to tack storage. It's a trailer design that I don't understand at all. It's OK if your horses all load like champs and you know you won't have any trailer loading problems in the future. But why bank on that? A terrible design, and not the safest, certainly.
Agree as it is asking a lot for horse to walk into a small dark space
what do you mean by they change nervous systems?
There are different types of nervous systems, he just didn’t go into depth with it, it’ll be confusing to most people unless they take biology 156/157. Although as a nursing student I don’t know if I would’ve said it as he did
Did Harry Potter steal your nose my guy lmao
look up sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems...the change is shown when the horse licks and chews...very good stuff to realize and to know...
How did she skin her nose when you got her in the trailer.
She didn't skin her nose. At 0:30 He mentions she got surgery to remove some scarring
Have you watched the video?!?
I don’t know if I personally would’ve jumped into moving her feet but allowing her to take the time she needs slowly into the trailer. For example, I would lead her up until she showed signs of stress then let her stand and relax. I think we need to modernize training into taking the horse into account. I don’t think she is necessarily finding “relief” in the trailer. I think for her even tho the trailer is bad being outside of it is worse.
I’m not saying she is being abused, I think he is being relatively gentle. I personally do not think she is finding relief, if you have to chase her in a circle to get into the trailer.
Relief at the trailer. he means they dont have to work....horses are lazy creatures. Who wants to work and sweat if they can relax and catch their breath.
Sheila Varian has a good video on youtube showing loading...this guy is ok and some folks do it this way...it does make some sense but there is more than one method...find out what works for you and for your horse...
@@johnalcorn2967 You say 'some folks do it this way...' What 'it' is that?
Manga, You can SEE it when she is finding relief.
I never saw him chase her in circles to get into the trailer. The busy hindquarter-yielding was deliberately away & apart from the trailer and it was pressure-off while approaching & facing the trailer.
@@childcrone "it" is trailer loading...some folks do trailer loading training this way. make the right thing easy and the wrong thing difficult. rest in the trailer, work away from the trailer.
You are standing in her way in the trailer.
It's hard to tell, but it seems like it; and not only that, he seems to be facing her too, and that's a psychological block to a horse. Better to face the direction you want the horse to go, not face the horse. But in this particular trailer, where the entrance is only one horse width, it could be dangerous to turn your back on her because she could suddenly rush in and run you over. It's possible that some of the time Ryan is standing back in the stall area, which would be fine and safe, but you can't tell.
You crack me up. It's called trust.
I remember years ago there was a thing in the horse world... to tie in a trailer or not tie in a trailer... I witnessed the aftermath of a horse fall out of the back of a trailer on a freeway, going 60 mph..it was horrifying... and I’ll never not tie a horse in a trailer.. I think the back ramp came down and the horse backed out going 60mph.. this is a little graphic... but the blood on the HIGHWAY was about 100 yards you could see it at night... PLEASE TIE YOUR HORSES... if I’m wrong please give me some evidence but witnessing that has me still traumatized..
That nervous system protected horse herds from being killed by wolves, cave bears, tigers and lions (and human hunters). They could run or stand and fight. Then they must relax again to graze a field and digest.
Ryan, you seem like a very nice young man and I do not mean this in a derogatory way at all. And I seriously doubt that you are of the mind that you have all the answers when it comes to training horses. So, let me offer the following for you to think about. And if you want to discuss this further with me, my email address is listed on my RUclips channel under business contacts. And no, I am not a RUclips competitor, I'm just an old-time horseman with many years of doing this stuff successfully and I have developed my own method that never fails ever. And I have taught it to many young horse people, and some not so young.
The reason your horse did not reload immediately was, you were concentrating on loading instead of leading. Now I know you're going to say something like WTF do I know that you do not!
Well, 45+ years as a professional horseman to begin with. As well as a whole host of other qualifications that would probably bore you to tears if I listed them all. And I have loaded horses of every stripe in every situation that were bad loaders, scared horses, “mean horses”, hurt horses, traumatized horses, etc. And I have never failed to load any horse in just a matter of minutes, with nothing but a cotton lead rope snapped in the bottom ring of the halter. NO, whips, sticks, butt ropes, feed, treats, etc. And certainly, no help from anyone, this is a one-person job.
And how did I do this miraculous thing that I seem to be bragging about, you may ask. Well, it is amazingly simple. In every instance, I concentrate on one thing and one thing only. LEADING the horse with very gentile tension release and never giving mixed signals to the horse. What mixed signals you may also ask. The first thing you teach any horse when teaching them to lead is. When I turn to face you or look at you that means STOP. The second thing you teach is when I put my hand on you that means STAND STILL. So, if you want the horse to advance on request, never do either of those things. Now you want the horse to advance on command, do this. Face the direction you wish to go with enough slack in the lead to allow for easy head movement. Then hold the lead in your right hand and place that hand firmly on your chest with the rope going to the horse flowing over the crook of your elbow. (NEVER LEAD A HORSE WITH AN EXTENDED ARM if you do your arm becomes spring and you cannot reward tension release fast enough for the horse to get the message). Now, do not look at the horse, just apply enough gentile tension on the lead by stepping forward to take out the slack. And stand very still, when the horse moves to get a release from that tension, no matter how small that movement. Calmly reach up with your hand and lightly rub the bridge on their nose, DO NOT LOOK at them and then repeat the process, each time ALLOWING the horse to get its own release and thus its reward for advancing. If the horse pulls back, just stay calm and become a post, do not give anything at all just let them come to the release on their own. Wash rinse and repeat until the horse is responding to the slightest of tension on the rope. Now you have reestablished the motivation for the horse to move forward on command. Because you are not giving the horse the reward, they are giving it to themselves, AH HA! A little light bulb comes on in your brain.
If you do this in every case the horse will respond positively, and you will never fail to load any horse in any trailer anywhere in any circumstance. Remember a horse trailer entrance is no different than a stall opening. When you enter a stall with the horse you are not thinking about loading, you are thinking about LEADING. I can say this with confidence because I have loaded literally hundreds, perhaps thousands of horses over my career and never failed. FOLKS, it's all about leading, never about loading.
I will only add that when YOU are calm inside, the horse will be calm in every situation but you can't fake it, they will know. And horses are herd animals and as such need a leader. When it's just you and a horse, you are part of that herd of two. Now, one of you needs to be the leader and it's up to you to choose who that will be. If you do not assume that role immediately, the horse will.
Awesome advice, I’m definitely going to check out your you tube!
I do think Ryan wasn’t focused on the loading - he was focused on the horse learning to be calm IN the trailer. He said many times this horse will load, that’s not the issue. The issue is having the horse stay calm while being hauled / in trailer.
What do you do, in your training, to help keep horse calm while being hauled?
Thanks
Sarah from New Zealand 😊
@@sezzysays4351 Thank you for your kind words.
A very good question indeed. I always have hauled horses with the constant thought that I am hauling liquid high explosives. And I did this whether using a two-horse bumper pull or an 18-horse commercial semi van. That especially means stopping and turning, but also cornering, and I completely disregard traffic situations. The horses are the only focus when I am transporting them. Traffic can wait, curse me, or whatever as far as I am concerned. I did this for many years and never wound up with a horse that was not comfortable being transported or unwilling to reload at any point.
Incidentally, I never even owned a whip of any kind. Those things are crutches for one’s lack of true understanding of the horse, IMHO.
Your min
Seem like same old same old training.
I do not like how he whips I love horse this want to make me cry
Making backing up uncomfortable I have to un sus
He's not whipping her hejust touches her with it.
But he's tapping her. Not whipping her? 😅😅
He is barely touching her with that whip. Remember horses will probably kick and bite to establish rank. The trainer obviously cannot do that so needs a bit of help to show her who is boss.
He is a professional horse trainer and does NOT use carrots to lure a horse into a trailer... Listen to a real pro and do NOT pretend you are one.
Not a fan of this particular video. RR says that she has no trouble going in; that she's just nervous when she's in there. But clearly she has a problem going in. She refuses 7x in succession, with Ryan supposedly doing what other people would do, before he takes her away and makes her work. And then she refuses 6 more times with Ryan doing it his way. So there's that. Plus making her go back and work just because she backs up a step or two just seems counterproductive to me. Why not just let her be and keep her faced into the trailer? Literally forcing her out and away from the trailer and making her work is actually pretty old school -- old school within the context of "natural horsemanship" -- not old school old school :) So much of Ryan's work is really forward thinking, taking what the average trainer does and moving it up another level, but this feels like throwback work.
When are people like you going to figure out that old school ways are much better. Better for the horse. The horse was in an accident and he was dealing with different issues at once. He's patient and very kind to each of these horses.
one of them youtubers eh (if you wanna see the full video you gotta pay lol) your youtube is way to small for that my friend
How? There is a difference from content and actual education. He’s smart to charge for his expertise. People are obviously paying for it too.
This is not how you track a horse to go in A trailer he sucks
Stable Horse Training has a better approach. I don't feel you're addressing her fear, just harassing her for it.
Ugh you got to stop hitting the horse with the whip it’s not helping you monster😡
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If you knew Ryan,
You’d know better than to say that.
You don’t know Ryan, so that’s a Shame.
@@LittleDotCom ok well if you knew how to treat a horse you would have known better . Shame
@@janiquelamprecht6198 😂
@@janiquelamprecht6198 He's not hitting her. Hes tapping her with it to ask her to back up.
The stick is used as an extension to his arm, snowflake.