this film is raw.. tim roth in a scary but brilliant performance, directed by alan clarke (scum) and written by david leland for the BBC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Clarke
He is a BRILLIANT actor! I'm from the US (I was about 5 years old when this came out, and didn't see it until I was in my early 30s, or so). Anyhow, when he played that shy, awkward younger brother in one of the other films from the "Tales Out of School" series (I do not recall the name at the moment, but I saw it twice about 5 years ago, I reckon?), he was basically the "polar opposite" of the character of "Trevor," though both seemed to come from dysfunctional backgrounds, he played an absolutely convincing character in that film as well! Mr. Roth has a true gift for acting. He can portray two VERY different characters, within the same time frame, mind you, with such precision that one would think each character was Tim's "true personality". He is one of the most talented actors I've seen. Also, the fact that he was so young, and had little to no professional acting experience in 1982, just goes to show that it is a God-given gift!
@@mauriceosullivan6832 well you can tell it's the same actor but I just think it's really amazing and overlooked that his first two roles were so different from each other. It shows such a range, no wonder he became a star he deserved it. I think it's a real shame that the two films are relatively unknown. I know that they are small productions and Roth's obviously been in a lot more bigger things now but to me they are his best two films. Don't get me wrong, I do like a lot of his later work but I think he would have great if he had not broke into Hollywood and remained an actor who starred in things like this.
I don't think so. If he was smart he wouldn't be turning down every single opportunity he gets to turn his life around. He's hell bent on being a dreg of society and being thrown in prison. If he was actually smart, he'd become an activist, or a gang leader, or maybe even something honest. But he's just a low level delinquent whose life will amount to nothing and will be remembered by no one. At the end of the movie you see how the first time he's ever hit by an authority figure for the first time he has nothing to say and his eyes show fear, and there's more of that to come, he's not a tough guy, he's some scrawny kid who can scare old men and ladies who shun violence, but will be easy picking in prison. That's what he signed up to, that's all his wits at work. So he's not smart at all. Just some rebel without a cause kid, like I presume all the ones admiring him also are, emotionally immature and knowing nothing about life.
@@shabbos-goy9407 And what are you going to do about it? Just get thrown in jail and amount to nothing, make no difference, be nothing but a forgotten number? Brilliant plan.
This is one of the best movies I've ever seen because it's neutral - the content is presented in a non - forcing way of persuading you to except a certain point of view or critic. It's just simply showing the degeneration of the youngsters in the 80's.
The 80's was an extremely tough decade. It saw its first female prime minister. I was a young teenager when she came to power in 79 .I was fortunate as I was just starting secondary school years. Anyone leaving school would have most certainly have joined ever increasing levels of the unemployed. There were 3 and half million people unemployed. It was one longest,hardest recessions I've ever witnessed. The tories to stem the level of youth unemployment decided to introduce two programmes. Y.O.P. Youth Opportunity Programmes Y.T.S. Youth Training Scheme. Both programmes provided 'work ' for £25 a week whilst there adult counterparts were paid an adult wage . Margaret Thatcher dissolved the minimum wage allowing any employer to pay whatever they wished. The tories as they are today all about deregulation .I my opinion they did today then as doing now created wealth for the few and poverty for the many in long hours and low paid jobs .
Everything he comes out with in the film is accurate, the establishment deliberately create characters who tell the truth and represent them as monsters using connotations and associations they brainwash us with from infancy.
Agreed; the closest we've got in recent years is the "This is England" Trilogy of works, but even that was heavily sanitised, and even the Un-PC bits had PC endings or overtones... It's about time we started getting some back to basics and raw cultural films back into the cinemas...
The actor in the brown pullover played one of the rapists in SCUM, weird seeing him in a position where he's supposed to be helping another troubled youth.
Have to say he has a point, at least about school. Most of it was patronizing bollocks, cultural indoctrination, learning useless stuff, and petty minded imposing of rules.
Yep, and all the history is sanitized and whitewashed and in many cases, skipped over entirely. I'm sure it's no different in UK as it is in the USA. I'm not down with the racist fucking bullshit, of course, I mean any real truthful history being taught. Good luck. I never even heard about Vietnam in my middle school or high school years at all. Zero. I only knew about it from watching films about it.
@@billykray2082 yeah where I grew up in the '70s, National Front Grafitti, Skinheads from Dagenham marauding around, it was indeed scary. I remember seeing a kid I grew up with, in Primary school, he was a year older, came from a troubled family, his mum had mental health issues, his dad was absent, he was Ginger and smelled of Piss but he was an ok kid, we played football with the boys in the park and at school and he came to the local boys' brigade troupe a few times. We left the primary and went to separate secondary schools. One day on my way to school I saw him on the other side of the road, I was about 14 now and he was with a notorious School hardman, bully type, I watched as he approached a large group of about 8 Indian kids, boys and girls, He walked up to them and without a word began violently beating the crap out of one lad, repeatedly punching him in the head and face, the girls started screaming until he and his mate calmly walked off, shouting some racial abuse as they went. I stood watching in disbelief, I waited for my bus and went to school, this scene has never left me and I often wonder what happened to everyone involved. Oh, I didn't mention I'm of Jamaican heritage, it was a very scary and confusing time
@Dizmop10, I hope things are different for you and your family and community now, whilst I don't doubt that people still suffer racial abuse, I hope things have changed for the better. That said, I'll have to be honest and say I can't stand Sjw's and virtue signalling, we've gone from a society wanting to be more tolerant, to a society that sees racism everywhere with ridiculous statements that the countryside is racist and that we must be aware of our white privilege, to me that's bullshit. I think one of the best things about this betrayal, is that Tim Roth presents a man angry with the world and is looking for an outlet to vent his frustrations, but when he gives his monalogue, the genius of it, is that scarily a part of it makes sense, and a small part of the viewer starts to identify with what he's saying even if the viewer knows he's also looking for anyone but himself to blame. The problem with modern day films is that it's all about virtue signalling and all the emphasis is put on shame, its almost like a cult where Sjw's flagelate themselves daily and the only way they can atone is too pressure local councils to tear down offensive clocks or change street names. However, what we've lost in this quest for purity is understanding, and our ability to understand where all this hate comes from or how to engage with it, instead choosing only to wield the power of the Internet and label anything offensive with a label in order to shut down any uncomfortable conversations, unless it's a conversation that an SJW wants to have and who can control its direction.
The character in this movie is venting out his anger and frustration against the authorities. Somehow he gets along with the black kid and lands him in trouble. I know if you were Asian or black in those days you couldn't get a job. Worse still if you were a skinhead or hooligan, then no chance. Racism existed in both sides one way or another.
Staggering performance the whole scene is just brilliant. They just don't make them like this anymore. I wish all the youth would be shown this film. I feel sorry for them as the rubbish that is passed of as "good" is just pure shite these days.
He's actually quite articulate and certainly not the brain dead image people had at the time of skinheads. I reckon possibly Trevor could have wised up over the years, removed that tattoo and become a success.
he seems a bit too articulate and introspective to be real, the fear comes from watching a violent thug that doesn't realise that they are fighting their weakness but don't know what they're doing
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Tim Roth is totally believable in every character he plays. I think he's one if the best actor of our time.
His role in Rob Roy was my favorite by far🤺
He is a BRILLIANT actor! I'm from the US (I was about 5 years old when this came out, and didn't see it until I was in my early 30s, or so). Anyhow, when he played that shy, awkward younger brother in one of the other films from the "Tales Out of School" series (I do not recall the name at the moment, but I saw it twice about 5 years ago, I reckon?), he was basically the "polar opposite" of the character of "Trevor," though both seemed to come from dysfunctional backgrounds, he played an absolutely convincing character in that film as well! Mr. Roth has a true gift for acting. He can portray two VERY different characters, within the same time frame, mind you, with such precision that one would think each character was Tim's "true personality".
He is one of the most talented actors I've seen. Also, the fact that he was so young, and had little to no professional acting experience in 1982, just goes to show that it is a God-given gift!
Lol I sure he bends and suck in this one lol
Undoubtedly one of Britain's most underrated actors.
Tim Roth and Gary Oldman are two of my favorite actors.
Too meny, Dennis Hopper, John Malkovich, Harvey Keitel etc.
Tim Roth was only 21 here. Superb performance.
Its one hell of a debut thats for sure. Then in his next film Meantime, he played Colin who's practically the polar opposite of Trevor.
@@napalmslayer dead right you are, the two films were only filmed 12 months apart and you wouldn't know they were the same actor.
@@mauriceosullivan6832 well you can tell it's the same actor but I just think it's really amazing and overlooked that his first two roles were so different from each other. It shows such a range, no wonder he became a star he deserved it. I think it's a real shame that the two films are relatively unknown. I know that they are small productions and Roth's obviously been in a lot more bigger things now but to me they are his best two films. Don't get me wrong, I do like a lot of his later work but I think he would have great if he had not broke into Hollywood and remained an actor who starred in things like this.
He's especially scary because he's not just an uncontrollable juvenile delinquent, he's intelligent and able to think outside of the box.
he was ahead of the curve
he's 100% spot on
the system is rotten and corrupt
I don't think so. If he was smart he wouldn't be turning down every single opportunity he gets to turn his life around. He's hell bent on being a dreg of society and being thrown in prison. If he was actually smart, he'd become an activist, or a gang leader, or maybe even something honest. But he's just a low level delinquent whose life will amount to nothing and will be remembered by no one. At the end of the movie you see how the first time he's ever hit by an authority figure for the first time he has nothing to say and his eyes show fear, and there's more of that to come, he's not a tough guy, he's some scrawny kid who can scare old men and ladies who shun violence, but will be easy picking in prison. That's what he signed up to, that's all his wits at work. So he's not smart at all. Just some rebel without a cause kid, like I presume all the ones admiring him also are, emotionally immature and knowing nothing about life.
@@shabbos-goy9407 And what are you going to do about it? Just get thrown in jail and amount to nothing, make no difference, be nothing but a forgotten number? Brilliant plan.
"That's a highly articulate outburst," as Mike said to Vivian when he ranted about The Good Life.
This is one of the best movies I've ever seen because it's neutral - the content is presented in a non - forcing way of persuading you to except a certain point of view or critic. It's just simply showing the degeneration of the youngsters in the 80's.
Brilliant performance, one of my favourite films..
I was born in the mid 1990s but I really envy people who lived through the '70s and '80s as these looked like tough decades.
The 80's was an extremely tough decade. It saw its first female prime minister. I was a young teenager when she came to power in 79 .I was fortunate as I was just starting secondary school years. Anyone leaving school would have most certainly have joined ever increasing levels of the unemployed. There were 3 and half million people unemployed. It was one longest,hardest recessions I've ever witnessed. The tories to stem the level of youth unemployment decided to introduce two programmes.
Y.O.P.
Youth
Opportunity
Programmes
Y.T.S.
Youth
Training
Scheme.
Both programmes provided 'work ' for £25 a week whilst there adult counterparts were paid an adult wage .
Margaret Thatcher dissolved the minimum wage allowing any employer to pay whatever they wished. The tories as they are today all about deregulation .I my opinion they did today then as doing now created wealth for the few and poverty for the many in long hours and low paid jobs .
16 years old ( not Tim ) so much talent. If you listen carefully in some scenes you can hear the lines being fed to him. Brilliant raw acting.
Everything he comes out with in the film is accurate, the establishment deliberately create characters who tell the truth and represent them as monsters using connotations and associations they brainwash us with from infancy.
I mean... apart from the racism
Oh yes. I love this super racist and violent teen who knows nothing about life.
Such a great film
Agreed; the closest we've got in recent years is the "This is England" Trilogy of works, but even that was heavily sanitised, and even the Un-PC bits had PC endings or overtones...
It's about time we started getting some back to basics and raw cultural films back into the cinemas...
one the most truthful things ever written ,everything trevor says is the truth
Omg even after all this time I still fancy Trevor a ridiculous amount 😍
The actor in the brown pullover played one of the rapists in SCUM, weird seeing him in a position where he's supposed to be helping another troubled youth.
Not really when you consider he is an actor.
Scum is another great movie in my opinion
is he the guy that attacked Carlin?
@@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 No.
@@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 No he was one of the rapists in the greenhouse.
One of the best films ever made
This performance now resonates more than ever. We live in a society that stuck to the rules and everyone got conned.
yep
look at the west
destroyed through utter corruption and greed
He fulfilled a niche in reality of 1980s youth
Re....School Be the best or forget it! so true
TREVAH!
Have to say he has a point, at least about school. Most of it was patronizing bollocks, cultural indoctrination, learning useless stuff, and petty minded imposing of rules.
Yep, and all the history is sanitized and whitewashed and in many cases, skipped over entirely. I'm sure it's no different in UK as it is in the USA. I'm not down with the racist fucking bullshit, of course, I mean any real truthful history being taught. Good luck. I never even heard about Vietnam in my middle school or high school years at all. Zero. I only knew about it from watching films about it.
and it got so much worse
Brutal film, amazing actor
I’m not surprised that he went on to rob a restaurant.
best speach ever.how good is that.nice one.
UK 82
TRUE CLASSIC FILM SHIT ON THIS COUNTRY TELL THEM DON'T LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YA DOWN
Pass me my glue bag please Trevor!
This film was hard hitting and on the money! Takes me back!
Tim Roth is a genius actor, truly great performance. I experienced facing racist thugs in the 70s , believe me it was not the best times.
Yep then we fought back and run them out of east end and made them move to Essex
@@billykray2082 yeah where I grew up in the '70s, National Front Grafitti, Skinheads from Dagenham marauding around, it was indeed scary. I remember seeing a kid I grew up with, in Primary school, he was a year older, came from a troubled family, his mum had mental health issues, his dad was absent, he was Ginger and smelled of Piss but he was an ok kid, we played football with the boys in the park and at school and he came to the local boys' brigade troupe a few times.
We left the primary and went to separate secondary schools. One day on my way to school I saw him on the other side of the road, I was about 14 now and he was with a notorious School hardman, bully type, I watched as he approached a large group of about 8 Indian kids, boys and girls, He walked up to them and without a word began violently beating the crap out of one lad, repeatedly punching him in the head and face, the girls started screaming until he and his mate calmly walked off, shouting some racial abuse as they went. I stood watching in disbelief, I waited for my bus and went to school, this scene has never left me and I often wonder what happened to everyone involved.
Oh, I didn't mention I'm of Jamaican heritage, it was a very scary and confusing time
@Dizmop10, I hope things are different for you and your family and community now, whilst I don't doubt that people still suffer racial abuse, I hope things have changed for the better.
That said, I'll have to be honest and say I can't stand Sjw's and virtue signalling, we've gone from a society wanting to be more tolerant, to a society that sees racism everywhere with ridiculous statements that the countryside is racist and that we must be aware of our white privilege, to me that's bullshit.
I think one of the best things about this betrayal, is that Tim Roth presents a man angry with the world and is looking for an outlet to vent his frustrations, but when he gives his monalogue, the genius of it, is that scarily a part of it makes sense, and a small part of the viewer starts to identify with what he's saying even if the viewer knows he's also looking for anyone but himself to blame.
The problem with modern day films is that it's all about virtue signalling and all the emphasis is put on shame, its almost like a cult where Sjw's flagelate themselves daily and the only way they can atone is too pressure local councils to tear down offensive clocks or change street names.
However, what we've lost in this quest for purity is understanding, and our ability to understand where all this hate comes from or how to engage with it, instead choosing only to wield the power of the Internet and label anything offensive with a label in order to shut down any uncomfortable conversations, unless it's a conversation that an SJW wants to have and who can control its direction.
The character in this movie is venting out his anger and frustration against the authorities. Somehow he gets along with the black kid and lands him in trouble. I know if you were Asian or black in those days you couldn't get a job. Worse still if you were a skinhead or hooligan, then no chance. Racism existed in both sides one way or another.
Haha
Bollocks!
@UPLOADER - What happened to your comment on this regarding the scene..?
Brilliant acting
hes so real
2021: yes
Mind-blowing acting chops for a 20 or 21 year old kid.
Staggering performance the whole scene is just brilliant. They just don't make them like this anymore. I wish all the youth would be shown this film. I feel sorry for them as the rubbish that is passed of as "good" is just pure shite these days.
So true
yeah he is one of the greenhouse bum boys.
Tim Roth 👏👏👏👏
In this and rob roy he burns up the screen, not many can compete
"Well said Trevor"
We are in 2021 now Trevor and Fuk All Has Changed..
You were Right..
SAY BITCH BE COOL!!!!
they wouldn't dare show this these days
Council estate of mind!
He's actually quite articulate and certainly not the brain dead image people had at the time of skinheads. I reckon possibly Trevor could have wised up over the years, removed that tattoo and become a success.
+Glenn Cumbria but that was everything he stood against.
+Glenn Cumbria Alan Clarke said he probably went on to become a stockbroker.
+Glenn Cumbria great comment. Its a hard battle. but you have to get over your own
neurosis. Somthing which his character was never willing to do.
"Success"
Wait a minute... that's Uncle Frank from Hellraiser.
Its all BALLICKZ. ...
Hey, It's Uncle Frank.
Just after his greenhouse days...
said kid ;)
how dare you talk about lying to dr cal lightmann XD
Red-Pilled as fuck
Every word Roth said is true! The system is bollocks!
dont make films like that anymore they would probably banned it if it was made now
he seems a bit too articulate and introspective to be real, the fear comes from watching a violent thug that doesn't realise that they are fighting their weakness but don't know what they're doing
I lived it, ended up in a secure unit by the age of 13,
never a rasist tho I hate everybody equally
an equal opportunity misanthrope
all people are $hit
Think he’s pish tbh
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