For me, the ideas in ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
They're ok with it - especially the one right next door that can tap off the gen with a 100' extension cord. And if you've never been in a power outage scenario - that is all you hear all over town - the cacophonous roar of generators far and wide. It's amazing how quiet it is without thousands of AC units going. You can hear a genny from blocks away.
i exercise both mine once per month for ~30 minutes with load ... Just to make sure they work. I don't winterize or put it away just because hurricane season is over. I will not be one of those that puts it away for a year, then comes back and it wont start. I want to make sure they both work.
I think if you run the flex tube straight up from the inlet fan, It may cool it down as the cold air is going to the top of your shed and circulating down to the exhaust fan. Just a thought
As you mentioned...warm air rises... venting OUT up high, would be better at lowering the inside temp, on the opposite wall from the intake vent... cross ventilating it, as well. Nice job all around, tho’ for “winging it” 👍
Great video ...I just found a Sunkast plastic shed just like this one used for 150$ ... gonna get it .. I’m gonna put more white vent grates around the sides lower and upper with a attic fan ... I don’t care about noise ... heck I’m using it during those brief summer storm outages that may last hours or longer ... I just wanna keep the gen ventilated well and cool .. great video
The reason the plywood sheet works is the sound gets transferred to the ground. Try pounding rebar into the ground and attaching the rebar to the plywood. The effect should further convience you to follow KISS!
Two things come to mind as to the cause of the 10" fan failuire. The placement of the 10" exhaust fan so close to the muffler will cause the motor to get very hot reducing it's lifespan. The volume of inlet air needs to match the volume of outlet air. A 6" inlet for the 6" outlet is fine, but what bout the 10" outlet for exhaust. One of the two fans is getting suction while pushing causing a heavy load if you don't match the two.
While that is definitely a possibility, I only ran the fan for a couple of hour tests (2 hours total) and the fan was not hot or even warm to the touch. Others reviews reported 'instant' failures also. I did add a second 6" inlet also. But good points.
Maybe the thing to do is to get one of these vinyl sheds strictly for the storage aspect, and then instead of buying all the materials for modding the shed, just get one of those Gen Tents for use in bad weather. You still need to set up the generator during an outage anyway, so withdrawing it from the shed and installing the Gen Tent isn't that big of a deal. Unless you are installing Roxul insulation for sound dampening and guaranteed fire resistance.
Thank you for the shout out, I really appreciate it. That generator shed setup looks really nice. If you do run into overheating problems, then you can always add more inlets or direct the air like you said, right to the engine/generator area.
Great video. Enjoyed and took a lot of pointers from you on my build. I even have the same 70 cf shed as you. If you would like Some advice. I believe that I would not have put that fan in front of your exhaust. There I would have a simple metal vent with a Hardy board shim. Then put that vent fan in front of the generator to expel heat. That just seems like too much heat on that fan for my liking. Also, turn all booster fans for intake. If you wanted to add one, 2 across from your exhaust would give good cooling. Keep any new ones low. Have you ever done a summer test? Love to see your final configuration.
Good points. Since the exhaust fan failed I will either just leave it there for the vent; I did notice that the exhaust was powerful enough to blow open the vanes. Might take motor off and leave the structure. This fan has dropped a lot in price - wonder why -lol. But I'll try another and mount up higher on the side for powered exhaust. I'll make an update video this spring when I do it. This video has gotten a LOT of views this winter, especially after the Texas power issues.
Man....😂 at 66 db like 68 ft. Away from the Generator 😞... Somebody is cheating here...... But still Great job 👍 . My Generator enclosure bring DOWN to 57 db Sound Level..... At 15 ft Made from Ply-wood Only 😅😅
I think you would see improvement if you could face the inlet and exhaust skyward and up in the air on a chimney. the noise would still be up there, but nobody's ears are up there. I know there are problems with rain with this idea, but you see my point. Maybe they are temporary only while in operation. Nice job.
@@PDU_Tutorials I have not had that happen. But my shed is on the east side of my trailer therefore it is never in hardcore afternoon brutal Iowa summer sun. I have had it 'loosen up' somewhat and have to coax the roof/2 door line up to latch properly. Things expand and contract especially with massive annual temperature changes. What purpose do you want your shed to perform?
@@StudioDaVeed Thanks for the info. I think mine will be fine as it will be on the east side of my home and won't be exposed to the crazy Texas afternoon heat. I'll be using it to store my two 96 gallon trash cans.
@@PDU_Tutorials There ya go! I wouldn't really recommend it as a storage shed for daily use stuff like bikes, etc. But as designed for garbage bins; it should work fine. It's low enough that when you raise the lid you could then lift garbage bags into the bin since the height is roughly the same and not needing to open the shed doors. PS: The hydraulic arms that hold the roof up still work great! And only using the doors weekly to move bins out to curb. Do you recognize me as one who has conversed with you several times about PowerDirector?
Something to make it quieter, is to drill large holes on top of the walls and then pour mortar in there and tap on the sides to help it to pack in tight. Obviously you would want to do this after you have cut out all the holes and then seal the edges of the holes till the mortar hardens. A concrete deadens sound better than a hollow plastic wall.
Just from my experience I attached 2" styrofoam to the walls and roof of my generator box and it lowered the Db quite considerably !! But excellent workmanship of your generator box, I really like the exhaust fan idea, going to copy your idea !if you don't mind !!:) 👍🏽👍🏽btw great informative video !!
Thank you Ian! Are you referring to the big vent or the duct booster style vents? When I switched up the duct booster as exhaust, I did remove the screen and gained more air flow. Here is that video: ruclips.net/video/ryTVP_AuoJ0/видео.html
My problem with this is that to refuel the genny in the middle of a hurricane (Central Louisiana here) I'll have to make some OTHER arrangements. So I think I'll just build a shed with enough room to store a fuel can, stand up in, and add fuel when needed, all during the deluge.
yes by all ways possible drop the db's a lot. install some sound dreading vinyl into this box. as the plastic will do really nothing to drop the db's. and add in a exhaust stack to it. get the exhaust up a good 10 feet, (use a larger piping to reduce the back psi) as the poison exhaust gases can get into your trailer, and it will help bring down the sound. the large exhaust venting only lets the sound out. and trash that wood platform, use concrete. even those parking blocks ( that allow grass to grow up through) will be great. build a great exhaust stack: use 4 inch pvc piping. mount the bottom a good six inches above the ground. well supported here and on the stack. using electrical conduit --metal only-- exit your box into the vertical pvc stack. with the extended exhaust pipe turning up, and going at least one to two feet. heat and flow will take the bad fumes up and away. the pvc will stay cold to the touch, do to the cold air being sucked in at the bottom. just take care at the point of contact where the metal exhaust piping goes in the pvc, will melt the plastic, possible fire hazard so support the exhaust piping in the center of the pvc. --reason for the 4 inch dia of the pvc--. and wrap everything with the metal exhaust for sound reasons, and cap off the top of the stack to keep birds out. but interesting to know how heat works here. i just had my eu3000 running on eico, at night for over 14 hrs in my small one car garage. was warm in there. cold outside, but not snow cold. yes all closed up. no venting. but garage is not air tight.
It works out rather well...but for the fan failures. I want to keep it portable, hence I am not doing any of the permanent mods like an exhaust extension requiring welding...etc...
sr if the generator is gasoline you can do the same. There is no risk that the base of the gas tank gets too hot and dangerous. until temperature can tolerate at most the base of the gas tank. Thank you
Rockwool attached to the inside would exponentially decrease the DBs. Stryrofoam will reflect sound waves, just like the plastic surface does. I do enjoy the detail of your video though, I hope that can help. Also, possibly look up hvac sound trap, that might help also
Sheds have little to no effect on Db level…. I just have a top and open sides, which eliminates the cost of the shed, fans, screens and insulation….. keep a good cover on it….. its covered and protected…. Why go to all the cost and trouble?
Well, it depends on location... A locked generator shed deters theft... Especially if your generator has the wheel kit attached. Some people tend to take the opportunity to take what's not theirs without hesitation... A running generator will attract them; it really depends on how determined they are, too...
the fan door is let it the noise out, the green door need to have an inside plate so the noise won't come out and the air wrap-around (plate not so close to the green door so air can come out, noise can't make a turn so it will hit the door and bounce back to the generator
The location of the exhaust due to how I positioned the generator in the shed. It would not fit "North and South" had to be "East and West" and I did not want to pipe it out as I wanted to retain (quick) portability.
Exactly the detailed information I needed to install a box for my gen. on a same size trailer . Thank you for your time and trouble . Any idea on running cost ?
This generator and the 4500 in my motor home at about 75% load use about 3/4 gallon of gas an hour. These big units are not nearly as efficient as the Honda style inverter gensets. It is best to run a test for yourself. Fill the tank, run for a couple hours on anticipated load and check fuel usage.
Recently, a friend and I were debating about all these youtubers who are keeping their portable, gasoline powered, power generators in a vinyl, store bought shed. The shed is intended to be used as an unobtrusive place to store a few trash cans. These vinyl "sheds" make for a very suitable thing for storing a portable, gasoline powered power generator. It keeps the expensive generator out of the elements, and provides some noise reduction when the generator is running during or even after a store has knocked out power. It is clear that the generator produces a massive amount of heat in just a single minute of running. The obvious, "simple" answer to this dilemma is to install air vents on one side of the shed and something like a 120 volt AC, attic fan that can be conveniently powered by the running generator. Most people who attempt this monstrosity are often too proud of their "custom" designed, quiet, generator shed box. One youtuber placed an attic fan on the lid of the shed instead of the side like all the others, which ideally remains closed to keep the rain out. It is clear to me that the attic fan will do a much better job of removing the heat inside this box if the fan is on the roof/lid, not the opposite side of the shed from the air "intake vents". I won't even go into the various ways of modifying the shed to allow the exhaust to escape without melting the vinyl shed. OK, so, if the generator is stored in this "otherwise" sealed container, the fumes from the gasoline in the generator's tank will indeed produce some fumes, fumes that we all know are dangerous and highly explosive. Is it possible that when the generator starts up, and kicks on the AC power to the attic fan,,,, wait for it.. a single spark from the attic fan's motor brushes/armature could ignite the fumes and KABOOM??? !!! ! ! !
These garbage can utility boxes are far from sealed even before venting fans are installed. Plus you have to open the doors in order to start the genset, so raw gas fume build up isn't an overwhelming issue.
Pretty good but a couple of issues. Being in Iowa it is subjected to extreme temperatures. -30 to above 100 The doors do not 'seat' very well without some manipulation so the lid latch/lock can line up. If I ever get motivated; unbolting/remounting the hinge assemblies might take care of that. But very happy to report that rain penetration has NEVER taken place. I'm satisfied with it.
@@StudioDaVeed I made myself a cement pad to sit the shed on to keep the doors from racking. I guess you could use patio blocks? Anything is better than a wood pallet.
I watched your video. I think. you intsalled exhaust fan in wrong place. The cold air will be at bottom and hot air will be on top. So, if you move exhaust fan to top panel of the same door. I think it will work to remove heat.
@@nghiemmai9842 Thanks for the comment! Yes, but the fan on the door is directly in line with the generator exhaust muffler. If not placed there, the exhaust would melt the door. That door fan does vent heavy heat direct from the exhaust to the point it melts the surrounding snow on the ground. But yes, heat rises and I re positioned the booster fan as outlet and not inlet. See here: ruclips.net/video/ryTVP_AuoJ0/видео.html
Spray the shed on the inside with peppermint oil, water and a little dish detergent. This will keep wasps, carpenter bees and all bees out of the shed all summer. Spray once per month between Spring, Summer and early Fall. It works!! They will leave and won't come back. Look for natural "Wasps Be Gone" spray deterrent on Google.
a 3600W generator is not that loud .. However a 7kW is VERY LOUD ... There is not much you can do to quiet these things down. And your generator is OUTSIDE yet you refuse to run it overnight ..?? Do you think the exhaust will magically make its way from the enclosure and into your home and to your room where you sleep..?? When Irma came thru and we lost power for 8 days, i ran my 7kW generator 24/7 .... At 1st it was inside my screened in pool enclosure.. I have an 8 ft over hang from the back of my house, then the screened in patio that covers over the pool. The generator was between the pool and the house with the exhaust aiming toward the pool and away from the house.... It ran 24/7 for 3 days like that... I had no worries about exhaust getting into my house. Once i was able to get my 10/4 cable, i then moved the generator to the side of the house between the house and the fence line which was about 6 ft from the house so the generator was centered between the 2. It then ran for 5 days 24/7, again, with NO worries that any exhaust would get into my house. It was always outside and most of us know hot air RISES ... I had no worries and i don't understand why people would build this kind of enclosure and still be worried to run it over night ... what chance are you taking by allowing it to run over night..??
A mobile home is different than a house. The shirting around a mobile home is not as a solid barrier like a wall. I just don't want to chance it. Second; fuel consumption. Best case is 8 hours on a tank. I probably would be ok. If it was a hot as hell night; I might run it a few hours at night. As noted I DO have a CO and smoke detectors so if it were ever to come that I did indeed need it for days....I may run it more than I intend.......
I think this is a fire or failure waiting to happen. Your generator controls are to the back of the shed, terrible idea. Your exhaust goes directly to your exhaust fan, not designed to take high heat. You inlet vent is high, outlet fan low that’s backwards and what if you get snow? I would not follow anything in this video. Others are much safer and practical. I hope no one follows your advice.
You bet, they would work well. Just think about moving the genset in and or out at that height level. I think the other video I highlighted, that guy used concrete topper blocks. I should report the large exhaust fan quit working, argghhh. A couple of other Amazon reviewers stated they quit fairly soon after installation.
Does it over heat without the blower? If the roof was pitched you could vent out of it and the rising heat would create a convection current which would be passive ,no need for forced air.
@@Dana5775 Yes and the doors open fully. It kind of defeats the noise aspect of it, but the main reason for the shed is storage at a close point for use. Overall I am happy with the shed, fans not so much.
@@Dana5775 But I do think, depending on exhaust placement, it may melt the door or side it was pointed at.....so when I use it now, I open the roof and doors.
All those cheap little generators SELF DESTRUCT THEY SUFFER 3600 RPM I-T-OUS & NOISE A small 4 cyl car generator blows them away as for gallons per hour and quietness, HANDS DOWN (Just double up on the crank pulley and put a Harbor freight 10kw NOW U GOT SOMETHING...
Not much to report as of late. Except that this shed as a garbage can/bike/etc use has taken a bit of a toll from the harsh weather extremes of Iowa. Other reviews in especially hot climates have reported regular use of the lid/doors and the shed isn't very sturdy; I can see that after two years and I don't use it in that manner. Still rain proof!
Just created my shed based on this design. I'm at the point where I have the attic fan installed (no battery) on the left and one vent on the other. Ran a test and the generator seemed to run great. I have a Ryobi 6500W generator so the exhaust, outlets and gas switch are in weird spots. My exhaust faces the front left so I put my exhaust fan on the left and vent cover on the right for inbound. My shed is outside in the backyard covered by two walls about 2 feet away from the house. My question anyone found it necessary to install the exhaust pipe or whether the fan would ventilate the fumes sufficiently? I've gotten this far so I'll do it if needed but the less I have to do the better. I'm also concerned about noise levels because I'm in a residential area so I want the least amount of cutting as possible. Anyone else make a shed for Ryobi generators or have any input?
Venting exhaust does nothing to reduce sound. In fact; I watched a video, wish I had saved it - that documented these large generators engine noise make most of the sound noise. Insulation and sound deadening materials are what makes the enclosure quiet but raises temperature. I did not vent exhaust as I wanted to keep my unit instantly portable. So, if you want to quiet your build; use some sound deadening material on the inside and vent the exhaust - that usually involves some welding and then piping to the outside. I did see one build where the guy made a "quick connect" (a couple of bolts with a socket and the genset was free of the rest of the exhaust piping). Scan these comment for suggested sound deadening material to use. Good Luck!
Update 2 Louvered Exhaust Fan Failure
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For me, the ideas in ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
Probably close to 2 grand these days.
Great little generator in a pinch, a bit loud, but functions great
I am sure your neighbors are going to love listening to that thing.
They're ok with it - especially the one right next door that can tap off the gen with a 100' extension cord.
And if you've never been in a power outage scenario - that is all you hear all over town - the cacophonous roar of generators far and wide.
It's amazing how quiet it is without thousands of AC units going.
You can hear a genny from blocks away.
i exercise both mine once per month for ~30 minutes with load ... Just to make sure they work. I don't winterize or put it away just because hurricane season is over. I will not be one of those that puts it away for a year, then comes back and it wont start.
I want to make sure they both work.
I think if you run the flex tube straight up from the inlet fan, It may cool it down as the cold air is going to the top of your shed and circulating down to the exhaust fan. Just a thought
As you mentioned...warm air rises... venting OUT up high, would be better at lowering the inside temp, on the opposite wall from the intake vent... cross ventilating it, as well. Nice job all around, tho’ for “winging it” 👍
That is what I did later: ruclips.net/video/ryTVP_AuoJ0/видео.html
Thank you!
Great video ...I just found a Sunkast plastic shed just like this one used for 150$ ... gonna get it .. I’m gonna put more white vent grates around the sides lower and upper with a attic fan ... I don’t care about noise ... heck I’m using it during those brief summer storm outages that may last hours or longer ... I just wanna keep the gen ventilated well and cool .. great video
Good luck!
The reason the plywood sheet works is the sound gets transferred to the ground. Try pounding rebar into the ground and attaching the rebar to the plywood. The effect should further convience you to follow KISS!
Two things come to mind as to the cause of the 10" fan failuire.
The placement of the 10" exhaust fan so close to the muffler will cause the motor to get very hot reducing it's lifespan.
The volume of inlet air needs to match the volume of outlet air. A 6" inlet for the 6" outlet is fine, but what bout the 10" outlet for exhaust. One of the two fans is getting suction while pushing causing a heavy load if you don't match the two.
While that is definitely a possibility, I only ran the fan for a couple of hour tests (2 hours total) and the fan was not hot or even warm to the touch.
Others reviews reported 'instant' failures also.
I did add a second 6" inlet also.
But good points.
I just ordered the suncast but in Canada it's more expensive $732 shipped and tax, alot for a plastic enclosure. Great video thanks for sharing
Yikes about double what I paid..if I recall.....
@@StudioDaVeed The link you shared for it has it for $900 plus and $900 plus for duty fees and shipping lol. We get ripped off badly in Canada
@@anthonymacneil2279
Wow!
I know I didn't pay that much, price has gone way up.
Nicely done, Sir!
Thank you!
Maybe the thing to do is to get one of these vinyl sheds strictly for the storage aspect, and then instead of buying all the materials for modding the shed, just get one of those Gen Tents for use in bad weather. You still need to set up the generator during an outage anyway, so withdrawing it from the shed and installing the Gen Tent isn't that big of a deal. Unless you are installing Roxul insulation for sound dampening and guaranteed fire resistance.
Thank you for the shout out, I really appreciate it. That generator shed setup looks really nice. If you do run into overheating problems, then you can always add more inlets or direct the air like you said, right to the engine/generator area.
Thank you Pete!
I think we have two of the nicer Sheds out there:)
Great video. Enjoyed and took a lot of pointers from you on my build. I even have the same 70 cf shed as you.
If you would like Some advice. I believe that I would not have put that fan in front of your exhaust. There I would have a simple metal vent with a Hardy board shim. Then put that vent fan in front of the generator to expel heat. That just seems like too much heat on that fan for my liking. Also, turn all booster fans for intake. If you wanted to add one, 2 across from your exhaust would give good cooling. Keep any new ones low.
Have you ever done a summer test? Love to see your final configuration.
Good points.
Since the exhaust fan failed I will either just leave it there for the vent; I did notice that the exhaust was powerful enough to blow open the vanes. Might take motor off and leave the structure.
This fan has dropped a lot in price - wonder why -lol.
But I'll try another and mount up higher on the side for powered exhaust.
I'll make an update video this spring when I do it.
This video has gotten a LOT of views this winter, especially after the Texas power issues.
Man....😂 at 66 db like 68 ft. Away from the Generator 😞... Somebody is cheating here...... But still Great job 👍 . My Generator enclosure bring DOWN to 57 db Sound Level..... At 15 ft
Made from Ply-wood Only 😅😅
I think you would see improvement if you could face the inlet and exhaust skyward and up in the air on a chimney.
the noise would still be up there, but nobody's ears are up there. I know there are problems with rain with this idea, but you see my point. Maybe they are temporary only while in operation. Nice job.
HEY!!! Saw your review on Amazon so I came by to give this a look see!
It's still shedding pretty good ;)
@@StudioDaVeed Good! I saw some reviews that showed the top bowing and I was concerned about that. Any issues there?
@@PDU_Tutorials
I have not had that happen.
But my shed is on the east side of my trailer therefore it is never in hardcore afternoon brutal Iowa summer sun.
I have had it 'loosen up' somewhat and have to coax the roof/2 door line up to latch properly.
Things expand and contract especially with massive annual temperature changes.
What purpose do you want your shed to perform?
@@StudioDaVeed Thanks for the info. I think mine will be fine as it will be on the east side of my home and won't be exposed to the crazy Texas afternoon heat. I'll be using it to store my two 96 gallon trash cans.
@@PDU_Tutorials
There ya go!
I wouldn't really recommend it as a storage shed for daily use stuff like bikes, etc.
But as designed for garbage bins; it should work fine.
It's low enough that when you raise the lid you could then lift garbage bags into the bin since the height is roughly the same and not needing to open the shed doors.
PS: The hydraulic arms that hold the roof up still work great!
And only using the doors weekly to move bins out to curb.
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Something to make it quieter, is to drill large holes on top of the walls and then pour mortar in there and tap on the sides to help it to pack in tight. Obviously you would want to do this after you have cut out all the holes and then seal the edges of the holes till the mortar hardens. A concrete deadens sound better than a hollow plastic wall.
i'd go for dry sand. hole would have to be sealed up first though.
Just from my experience I attached 2" styrofoam to the walls and roof of my generator box and it lowered the Db quite considerably !! But excellent workmanship of your generator box, I really like the exhaust fan idea, going to copy your idea !if you don't mind !!:) 👍🏽👍🏽btw great informative video !!
Thank you Ian!
Are you referring to the big vent or the duct booster style vents?
When I switched up the duct booster as exhaust, I did remove the screen and gained more air flow.
Here is that video: ruclips.net/video/ryTVP_AuoJ0/видео.html
Good Job.
My problem with this is that to refuel the genny in the middle of a hurricane (Central Louisiana here) I'll have to make some OTHER arrangements. So I think I'll just build a shed with enough room to store a fuel can, stand up in, and add fuel when needed, all during the deluge.
Makes perfect sense.
Every need/situation is different.
This is what I need in South Florida. What do you recommend?
Yes I am tracking the vid on the summer temps.
Unfortunately that didn't happen as there were fan failures, please see the pinned comment.
yes by all ways possible drop the db's a lot.
install some sound dreading vinyl into this box. as the plastic will do really nothing to drop the db's. and add in a exhaust stack to it. get the exhaust up a good 10 feet, (use a larger piping to reduce the back psi) as the poison exhaust gases can get into your trailer, and it will help bring down the sound. the large exhaust venting only lets the sound out.
and trash that wood platform, use concrete. even those parking blocks ( that allow grass to grow up through) will be great.
build a great exhaust stack:
use 4 inch pvc piping.
mount the bottom a good six inches above the ground. well supported here and on the stack.
using electrical conduit --metal only-- exit your box into the vertical pvc stack. with the extended exhaust pipe turning up, and going at least one to two feet.
heat and flow will take the bad fumes up and away. the pvc will stay cold to the touch, do to the cold air being sucked in at the bottom. just take care at the point of contact where the metal exhaust piping goes in the pvc, will melt the plastic, possible fire hazard so support the exhaust piping in the center of the pvc. --reason for the 4 inch dia of the pvc--.
and wrap everything with the metal exhaust for sound reasons, and cap off the top of the stack to keep birds out.
but interesting to know how heat works here.
i just had my eu3000 running on eico, at night for over 14 hrs in my small one car garage. was warm in there. cold outside, but not snow cold. yes all closed up. no venting. but garage is not air tight.
Hello new friend! I've thought about doing a setup like this myself!
It works out rather well...but for the fan failures.
I want to keep it portable, hence I am not doing any of the permanent mods like an exhaust extension requiring welding...etc...
sr if the generator is gasoline you can do the same. There is no risk that the base of the gas tank gets too hot and dangerous. until temperature can tolerate at most the base of the gas tank. Thank you
Assuming your using the four prong 220 outlet for the house where are you drawing the 110 for the exhaust fan?
There are two 110 outlets also.
@@StudioDaVeed So your generator allows you to draw from all outlets at the same time
@@georgedeamicis2510
Yes.
Some do not I understand.
Rockwool attached to the inside would exponentially decrease the DBs. Stryrofoam will reflect sound waves, just like the plastic surface does.
I do enjoy the detail of your video though, I hope that can help. Also, possibly look up hvac sound trap, that might help also
rockwool just comes semi rigid, how would you secure it to the walls inside the shed?
Sheds have little to no effect on Db level…. I just have a top and open sides, which eliminates the cost of the shed, fans, screens and insulation….. keep a good cover on it….. its covered and protected…. Why go to all the cost and trouble?
Primarily weather protections.
I agree Jim, a cover is good enough
Well, it depends on location...
A locked generator shed deters theft... Especially if your generator has the wheel kit attached. Some people tend to take the opportunity to take what's not theirs without hesitation... A running generator will attract them; it really depends on how determined they are, too...
@@StudioDaVeed I made my Generator Shed from Ply-wood Only and Reduced Noise Level to 57 db at 15 ft.....No kidding 😅
the fan door is let it the noise out, the green door need to have an inside plate so the noise won't come out and the air wrap-around (plate not so close to the green door so air can come out, noise can't make a turn so it will hit the door and bounce back to the generator
What do you use to set generator on so you don't melt shed bottom from engine heat ?
My genset is on a wheel kit so it is half a foot above the floor, no melty.
Not much louder than a lawnmower he said I guess the neighbors would love that at 3 am.
you may get better temps if you had a straight air path (side to side)
Don't forget to secure the gen so two legged rats can't carry it off.
I think two legged rats and lawn boys work at night. Since he does not run the generator at night time, hopefully, it won't disappear.
Great video! I've got a large generator like yours and I'm gonna grab one of these sheds and do a custom install, too.
Thanks, good presentation.
What made you choose the location of the exhaust fan in the door vs the side?
The location of the exhaust due to how I positioned the generator in the shed.
It would not fit "North and South" had to be "East and West" and I did not want to pipe it out as I wanted to retain (quick) portability.
Any issues with plastic melting where the exhaust is?
Not in my tests.
Quite cool at the fan which is directly the closest.
Exactly the detailed information I needed to install a box for my gen. on a same size trailer . Thank you for your time and trouble . Any idea on running cost ?
This generator and the 4500 in my motor home at about 75% load use about 3/4 gallon of gas an hour.
These big units are not nearly as efficient as the Honda style inverter gensets.
It is best to run a test for yourself.
Fill the tank, run for a couple hours on anticipated load and check fuel usage.
Thank you, again.
Maybe i missed it but how was the exhaust vented????
Via the large green vented exhaust fan.
Hi where did you get the fan?
Amazon - Parts list in video description.
Recently, a friend and I were debating about all these youtubers who are keeping their portable, gasoline powered, power generators in a vinyl, store bought shed. The shed is intended to be used as an unobtrusive place to store a few trash cans. These vinyl "sheds" make for a very suitable thing for storing a portable, gasoline powered power generator. It keeps the expensive generator out of the elements, and provides some noise reduction when the generator is running during or even after a store has knocked out power. It is clear that the generator produces a massive amount of heat in just a single minute of running. The obvious, "simple" answer to this dilemma is to install air vents on one side of the shed and something like a 120 volt AC, attic fan that can be conveniently powered by the running generator. Most people who attempt this monstrosity are often too proud of their "custom" designed, quiet, generator shed box. One youtuber placed an attic fan on the lid of the shed instead of the side like all the others, which ideally remains closed to keep the rain out. It is clear to me that the attic fan will do a much better job of removing the heat inside this box if the fan is on the roof/lid, not the opposite side of the shed from the air "intake vents". I won't even go into the various ways of modifying the shed to allow the exhaust to escape without melting the vinyl shed. OK, so, if the generator is stored in this "otherwise" sealed container, the fumes from the gasoline in the generator's tank will indeed produce some fumes, fumes that we all know are dangerous and highly explosive. Is it possible that when the generator starts up, and kicks on the AC power to the attic fan,,,, wait for it.. a single spark from the attic fan's motor brushes/armature could ignite the fumes and KABOOM??? !!! ! ! !
These garbage can utility boxes are far from sealed even before venting fans are installed.
Plus you have to open the doors in order to start the genset, so raw gas fume build up isn't an overwhelming issue.
@@StudioDaVeed I too believe that it would be nearly impossible for these fumes to collect and be "potent" enough to ignite.
What color is urine in diabetes?
How many watts will the fans pull. I
I can not say...might be in the info of the links to Amazon?
I love it,why pay up to 12g for a Generac when you can do it yourself
Yep!
How's the generator shed holding up?
Pretty good but a couple of issues.
Being in Iowa it is subjected to extreme temperatures.
-30 to above 100
The doors do not 'seat' very well without some manipulation so the lid latch/lock can line up.
If I ever get motivated; unbolting/remounting the hinge assemblies might take care of that.
But very happy to report that rain penetration has NEVER taken place.
I'm satisfied with it.
@@StudioDaVeed I made myself a cement pad to sit the shed on to keep the doors from racking. I guess you could use patio blocks? Anything is better than a wood pallet.
@@HellOnWheels63
You bet...I went quick and easy ;(
Update 1
Adding another vent and moving the booster fan.
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I watched your video. I think. you intsalled exhaust fan in wrong place. The cold air will be at bottom and hot air will be on top. So, if you move exhaust fan to top panel of the same door. I think it will work to remove heat.
@@nghiemmai9842
Thanks for the comment!
Yes, but the fan on the door is directly in line with the generator exhaust muffler.
If not placed there, the exhaust would melt the door.
That door fan does vent heavy heat direct from the exhaust to the point it melts the surrounding snow on the ground.
But yes, heat rises and I re positioned the booster fan as outlet and not inlet.
See here: ruclips.net/video/ryTVP_AuoJ0/видео.html
I want to build one of these but it would be full of red wasp nests in a week.
Wasps have been rather prolific this spring in Iowa.....I should take care next time I open it up......:)
And spiders where I am
Spray the shed on the inside with peppermint oil, water and a little dish detergent. This will keep wasps, carpenter bees and all bees out of the shed all summer. Spray once per month between Spring, Summer and early Fall. It works!! They will leave and won't come back. Look for natural "Wasps Be Gone" spray deterrent on Google.
a 3600W generator is not that loud .. However a 7kW is VERY LOUD ... There is not much you can do to quiet these things down.
And your generator is OUTSIDE yet you refuse to run it overnight ..?? Do you think the exhaust will magically make its way from the enclosure and into your home and to your room where you sleep..??
When Irma came thru and we lost power for 8 days, i ran my 7kW generator 24/7 .... At 1st it was inside my screened in pool enclosure.. I have an 8 ft over hang from the back of my house, then the screened in patio that covers over the pool. The generator was between the pool and the house with the exhaust aiming toward the pool and away from the house.... It ran 24/7 for 3 days like that... I had no worries about exhaust getting into my house.
Once i was able to get my 10/4 cable, i then moved the generator to the side of the house between the house and the fence line which was about 6 ft from the house so the generator was centered between the 2. It then ran for 5 days 24/7, again, with NO worries that any exhaust would get into my house. It was always outside and most of us know hot air RISES ... I had no worries and i don't understand why people would build this kind of enclosure and still be worried to run it over night ...
what chance are you taking by allowing it to run over night..??
A mobile home is different than a house.
The shirting around a mobile home is not as a solid barrier like a wall.
I just don't want to chance it.
Second; fuel consumption. Best case is 8 hours on a tank. I probably would be ok.
If it was a hot as hell night; I might run it a few hours at night.
As noted I DO have a CO and smoke detectors so if it were ever to come that I did indeed need it for days....I may run it more than I intend.......
You could always plumb in a catalytic converter to the exhaust that would take out the CO2.
I think this is a fire or failure waiting to happen. Your generator controls are to the back of the shed, terrible idea. Your exhaust goes directly to your exhaust fan, not designed to take high heat. You inlet vent is high, outlet fan low that’s backwards and what if you get snow? I would not follow anything in this video. Others are much safer and practical. I hope no one follows your advice.
Shouldn't store gas cans in the shed as that would be dangerous !
Not when the genny is running, agreed.
What about concrete blocks?
You bet, they would work well.
Just think about moving the genset in and or out at that height level.
I think the other video I highlighted, that guy used concrete topper blocks.
I should report the large exhaust fan quit working, argghhh.
A couple of other Amazon reviewers stated they quit fairly soon after installation.
Does it over heat without the blower? If the roof was pitched you could vent out of it and the rising heat would create a convection current which would be passive ,no need for forced air.
@@Dana5775
Yes and the doors open fully.
It kind of defeats the noise aspect of it, but the main reason for the shed is storage at a close point for use.
Overall I am happy with the shed, fans not so much.
@@Dana5775 But I do think, depending on exhaust placement, it may melt the door or side it was pointed at.....so when I use it now, I open the roof and doors.
Studio DaVeed thanks good to know .I am thinking about a natural gas direct to the house.
All those cheap little generators SELF DESTRUCT THEY SUFFER 3600 RPM I-T-OUS & NOISE A small 4 cyl car generator blows them away as for gallons per hour and quietness, HANDS DOWN (Just double up on the crank pulley and put a Harbor freight 10kw NOW U GOT SOMETHING...
Tracking this info.
Not much to report as of late.
Except that this shed as a garbage can/bike/etc use has taken a bit of a toll from the harsh weather extremes of Iowa.
Other reviews in especially hot climates have reported regular use of the lid/doors and the shed isn't very sturdy; I can see that after two years and I don't use it in that manner.
Still rain proof!
"Heat does rise..." Umm... No it doesn't. Hot air rises. Heat moves toward cold.
Just created my shed based on this design. I'm at the point where I have the attic fan installed (no battery) on the left and one vent on the other. Ran a test and the generator seemed to run great. I have a Ryobi 6500W generator so the exhaust, outlets and gas switch are in weird spots. My exhaust faces the front left so I put my exhaust fan on the left and vent cover on the right for inbound. My shed is outside in the backyard covered by two walls about 2 feet away from the house.
My question anyone found it necessary to install the exhaust pipe or whether the fan would ventilate the fumes sufficiently? I've gotten this far so I'll do it if needed but the less I have to do the better. I'm also concerned about noise levels because I'm in a residential area so I want the least amount of cutting as possible. Anyone else make a shed for Ryobi generators or have any input?
Venting exhaust does nothing to reduce sound.
In fact; I watched a video, wish I had saved it - that documented these large generators engine noise make most of the sound noise.
Insulation and sound deadening materials are what makes the enclosure quiet but raises temperature.
I did not vent exhaust as I wanted to keep my unit instantly portable.
So, if you want to quiet your build; use some sound deadening material on the inside and vent the exhaust - that usually involves some welding and then piping to the outside.
I did see one build where the guy made a "quick connect" (a couple of bolts with a socket and the genset was free of the rest of the exhaust piping).
Scan these comment for suggested sound deadening material to use.
Good Luck!