Mirka Deros Vs Festool ETS EC
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- In this video I've pitted the Festool ETS EC 150/3 EQ Plus vs the Mirka Deros 650X CV.
No animals were harmed in the making of this video.
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Thanks for the comparison.
For holding/supporting the hose and cord, try bringing the hose either past your left hip, running it over you left shoulder, and back around to your right hand.
Or, past your left hip, over your right shoulder, and loop around to your right hand.
(For either hose route, Reverse the lefts and rights if you're left-handed).
Letting your opposing shoulder hold the weight is more even on your body overall since the weight of the tool is in your primary hand.
love my Mirka the and pads are amazing . i use the Abranet mesh pads are the best for dust removal and no swirls
Adding a Mirka Orbital to my wishlist. I don't have a great sander now and I was already leaning towards a Mirka but this just convinces me even more. Thank you for this John!
I've had the Mirka Deros sander and vacuum for the last 2 years and it is a game changer for your health. I blow buy others doing the same task and with less harmfull vibrations. I just received my new Hepa Mirka and new 5/16 orbit sander. I paint boats and cars and rvs and this set up kicks ass over any other sander I've ever used and is really comfortable and nimble. It might sound weard but I'm kinda excited to use my new Hepa setup tomorrow. It's supposed to be quieter but it looks to have a smaller capacity bag for the vacuum. If you sand every day you need something like this in your life. What sold me was the salesman was wearing a nice new black coat. He sanded white gelcoat and held his hand under the edge to catch any dust that fell, and then wiped it on his brand new black coat and there was no trace of white dust. I know I sound like a salesmen but I'm a working stiff lol. I think I'm good,g to loan my old Mirka to my Fast lol buds for a week or so and see how they feel. I've never used a festool but I have heard they remove stuff in a hurry. Great experiment.
Thanks for that info Rob! Very cool to hear about your setup
Great comparison. Thank you for taking your time into doing this video... greatly appreciated. Continue in your hard work for helping us all . Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
Great test, and one I had been wondering about. I see the Mirka used more in huge shops on huge projects and wasn’t sure it would be good for my small shop, but this test gives me hope! Thanks!
Happy to be of service!
Good job at comparing these two dustless sanding systems. I'm trying to decide between the two and your comparison was very helpful!
I’m happy to hear that! Anything I can do to bring clarity to someone brings me joy 👍🏻
Nicely done test! Sanders are difficult to give a truly objective comparison. I appreciated how you tried to eliminate as many variables as you could. As a professional woodworker time is king, so seeing the difference is great. Thanks for that!
I had both but the mirka overheated but still a great machine. My festools have been very reliable except the cords need replacing every six months or so, that is costly. All said and done I'll replace festool with mirka when one of them dies as I really like the abranet pads they last so much longer than festools pads
Dont no what your doing to your festool cords but ive never replaced 1 in over 10 yrs
@@bensheldon4521 same here never replaced mine
Man I hate sanding so much I really appreciate you spending extra time sanding just for our benefit!
I hate sanding too, and I also hate re-sanding parts that have tons of swirls on them because of terrible tools. I hope this helps!
Faster sanding is greatly attributed to the stroke size, I have both the 3mm and 5mm stroke festool sanders and the difference is pretty noticeable, secondly fesrool also offers an interface pad and a thick interface pad for irregular surface sanding. Thirdly mirka cost a couple hundred dollars more. Fourthly tons of people, Amazon reviews, and forum members continuously complain about the mirka dying on them, I ve been using festool sander in a production setting for over 10 years, I have three of those festool sanders running daily without ever having an issue. Not ragging on mirka as I own one as well but I think those points should be brought to light when doing a head to head comparison. Now take the two sanders, and really lean into them and tell me which one will remove material without bogging down, I can give you a hint, its not going to be the festool
The thing with the Festool is that I could never achieve a reliably great finish with it. There have been issues with the mirka circuit board overheating and dying, but that has been fixed with the most recent models. A lot of that was due to the 220 euro electronics running on 110 North American power(same problem that affected the kapex motors). But the main issue is this: I didn't care how long the festool lasted in comparison, I wouldn't use it because it caused more trouble than help. The mirka line has been excellent in comparison, and I'm 3 years into it and haven't had a problem.
I have both, the mirka is the better tool better finish and more comfortable to use. I keep the festool for paint finishes and the mirka for solid wood clear finishes. Both excellent machines though.
Are you hooked up to a Festool vac and if so does it connect ok with the Mirka?
Yea man I use a festool vac the 27mm hose connects perfect to the mirka.
Thanks for the review! I'm not trying to be controversial with the following commentary, just point out something that's worth people being aware of about the Mirka Deros 5650cv...
From the research I've done and what Stene Woodwork has said here, the Mirka Deros may be an excellent tool in many areas. However, it appears that Festool beats it in terms of reliability. While a certain percentage of all top tier power tools can fail for various reasons, there's too much hub-bub on the internet about the Mirka Deros in particular to just write off. I actually came very close to getting the Deros 5650 kit and have opted for the Festool instead because at that price point, I expect reliability irrespective of a 3 year warranty. See Peter Millard, Handi-i-Craft and other RUclipsrs for Mirka Deros failing and some and Mirka's reasoning for it.
Note that this is not quite an apples to apples comparison as this Festool has a 3mm stroke while the Mirka has 5. Festool also do that 6" / 150mm sander in a 5 stroke.
The issues with the Mirka failing is an overheating issue, and the part is the circuit board. That being said, I haven't experienced an issue with either of mine. I had the Festool for two years and struggled every time to get a consistent finish. I was constantly fighting irregular scratch patterns, and was at my whit's end despite a ton of online research. I also had a hard time finding information from professionals, most of the info coming from DIY'ers or hobbyists(which let's be honest, have a limited range of experience).
Even though the 5mm compared to the 3mm isn't exact, I think it was sufficient to show the better performance of the Mirka in all area's, including the finish. A smaller orbit should produces a less noticeable scratch pattern, which it didn't in the case of the Festool(so I don't see the point of having a smaller orbit sander if it doesn't leave a better finish).
I'd be curious to see a review of the Mirka from a professional who logs hundreds of hours a year on a sander, as opposed to "reviewers" who set up tests in order to develop an opinion to share.
@@SteneWoodwork I appreciate where you are coming from in terms of reviewers and it's a very fair point you make about giving the Festool more of a chance at 3mm for finishing rather than the Mirka's 5mm. I'm not a professional myself so while I'm entitled to have an opinion, I'm absolutely not qualified to have one :) I didn't want to invest a significant amount in a tool that's proven quite divisive. For me at least, whether other reviewers are accurate or misinformed, there's still many unanswered questions for a €600 investment. I haven't noticed similar for Festool. That said thanks for the balanced reply as you've given me more to think about! I wish this were an easier decision...
the 3mm sanding orbit is actually only required for sanding paintwork from a grain size of 400 upwards. everything below is sanded with the 5.0 orbit wich means for 90% a 5.0 is enough to make precisely Finishes. therefore the comparison fluctuates somewhat. Personally, I don't like the pedal on the Mirka because you always have to turn it on and off. that is much more pleasant with the Festool. Also it reads everywhere that Mirka likes to break very quickly.
I'm assuming you don't use a sander professionally?
Thank you for the video. Just subscribed. I am about to purchase either the Mirka 650 or the Festool ETS EC 150/5. One of the things I like about the Festool is that it stops almost immediately after turning it off. Does the Mirka stop like the Festool? Do you find the paddle on the Mirka to be difficult to use? Is the warranty on the Mirka 3 years like the Festool? Thanks for any info you can provide.
For me all the extra features didn't matter on the festool. it could come with a million wonderful features but it still wouldn't make it sand any better. which is what a sander is supposed to do.
He isn’t reviewing the mirka 650 here
I am a flooring professional and sand a lot of hardwood floors and stair treads.
I had many orbital 6" sanders during my time. Bosh, Metabo, Rigid, Festool, and Mirka.
Mirka is the best of them, but there is a downside to them. Had Mirka Ceros for 4 Years and never had it break down on me.
New Mirka Deros broke down 3 times in 3 years. The electronics overheat and die. After 3 time Mirka has given me a brand new model. I was hoping they resolved the issue with the circuit boards but this is not the case. It died this week after finish sanding ( 60,80 and 100 grit a staircase ) The sander first would start the vacuum without being turned on and then it died. I do not know if it is worth to repair it and I am really frustrated with the whole deal.
I am wondering if the Festool ETS 150 5 mm orbit ( not demoed here)would be comparable to Mirka Deros.
It provides faster material removal than the 3mm orbit version. Anyone can confirm this?
in the old days orbital sanding were air tools and thats before marketing logics took over work logics. 5mm(3/16) orbital are for rough sanding up to 120/150. fine sanding 3mm (3/32) orbital 150 and up 150 180 220 etc with no more random crossgrain skidding, or flat pad sanding. its time to lean the pad to use a croissant shape area of the pad and sand with the grain.
I work in the yacht repair industry and the shop I work at currently has three Mirka Deros units, along with their respective dust extractors. In the past year we've had atleast four failures. Mirka has been responsive about correcting the issues, but it seems like they all have the same problem you've experienced. Ive considered buying a deros for myself, because it really is a phenomenal machine when its performing, but they seem pretty unreliable. too bad, because it really does feel perfect in the hand and is a pleasure to use.
Interesting. I'm glad I read your comment and the replies below as we were about to get a Mirka. I own a painting company doing mainly high end residential work and there is a lot of sanding of a variety of surfaces, often our native hardwood. We need strong, reliable sanders that also do a great job and have to date bought Festool products one of which is the ETS EC 150/5. It gets an absolute hammering, even driving 24 grit paper in extreme circumstances! It is the most versatile of our Festool range and the most used from hard sanding with 40, 60 or 80 after the paintshaver has been through on weatherboards to 100 and up the scale to 240 on windows and finer things. We've had it for 3 years and its been through hell including a drop from the second level of the scaffold on to concrete and is still trucking. I really like the Mirka but wonder if it's more suited to a fine detail woodwork shop than floor or house work which can be hard sanding all day? A thought though, we also use the Festool Rotex 150 and you might want to check that out for floor work. It has a gear drive setting and is extremely strong. A flooring guy we sometimes work with uses his Rotex to get the tight areas on floors and I imagine he'd use it on stairs. Stronger then the ETS (about 30%faster at stripping paint, varnish etc) but also a lot heavier. One thing to note though, before buying Festool extractors we used cheap Vacmaster ones and sometimes they wouldn't turn off using the ETS. No problem with the Rotex and Metabo. ETS fine with Festool extractor but it does have some electronics in it that seem to mess with cheap vacs. More money for Festool (grumble). Vacs are amazing though... And to Stene Woodwork, thanks so much for the video it is easily the best I've seen on this subject. Any problems yourself with reliability of the Mirka?
Mirka has has issues with the electronics overheating and causing failure, but that is why they make sure to back it up with their 3 year warranty. I also had the festool rotex, and have sold and replaced it with the Bosch direct drive sander. They are the same type of sander, with a driven mode and a random orbital mode, and the Bosch is much smoother and easier to handle than the rotex, without sacrificing performance. It’s a great and cheaper option without sacrificing quality
@@SteneWoodwork Sounds good. There wasn't much info on the Bosch when I was looking for a gear driven about 5 years ago. We bought the Makita one first but it was very slow and heavy so we got the Festool rep out and did a demo with the Rotex which we ended up selling our kidneys for to get. Would love to see a Bosch vs Rotex review, the Bosch looks like a great tool and half the price.
If your doing work where you may be doing allot of articulating your wrist and also need more control of your sander then the mirka is better, but the festool is a very very strong and great tool but for me because of the way the back part of the tool is you can't really see the lower portion of your sander while your working
Thank you for such an informative vlog, I have now despite some horror stories decided on the Mirka, I’m only a light user anyway but always only buy quality tools. Currently there are better deals when buying mirka here in the Uk.
Well all I can say is that I got better results with the mirka in one month than I did using the festool for two years!
Just like you !! Love quality tools despite not being a pro
before you go any further... you should figure out what the 3 stands for on the festool and make sure that both your sanders are either 3/16s or 3/32 orbital range as otherwise you just didn't buy the right range because Mirka sells sander in both ranges and maybe festool too but not necessarly.
The 3 denotes that it has a 3mm orbit, while the Mirka is a 5mm orbit. The larger orbit means it is more aggressive, and will remove material faster. The 3mm orbit is supposed to leave less visible scratches and be more of a fine finish sander. My point was that the Mirka which is supposed to be a more aggressive sander, still beats the Festool at finish quality.
This was interesting! I often wonder why both sanders were so expensive but I guess your paying for quality and efficiency, this was very interesting well done dude 🤜🏽
Hey thanks Glenn! I often wonder if anyone finds this interesting besides myself ha ha
Lol I fond it interesting, jut because I was looking at both sanders and was wondering why they were so expensive and your video pretty much why they are! Lol
glenn lickers hey that’s great to hear, I try to provide worth to people 👍🏻
Haven't seen the whole video yet, but I have to tell you that it is an amazing video and compareson so far. Really good job by using the same sandpaper and so on. Good job! I will now watch the rest
Thanks man!
I'm in the market for a sander upgrade , here in Canada I can get the Mirka for about $100 less so I may give it a try
You won’t be disappointed 👍🏻
Did you get the mirka? How is it?
@@mihalylajko381 yes I did and I love it , light and powerful great ergonomics
what adapter did you use for the Mirka to connect to the festoon dust extractor? Im curious about the reverse. I have the Mirka system but would like to know if Festool fits on my Mirka dust extractor
No adapter, attached with no problem
@@SteneWoodwork that is great to hear that the hoses are capable
Thinking about adding this to my arsenal! Great review! Does? 650 has a bigger motor than the 625?
Not that I'm aware of, the 650 stands for 6" pad, 5.0mm orbit. The 625 stands for 6" pad, 2.5mm orbit. I recommend the 650 for woodwork, the 625 is more for automotive applications
thanks for the test. especially your use of multiple surfaces.
when both sanders are set up as they're designed to operate, is there any noticeable difference in their ability to keep the shop dust free? other than 'speed' and 'quality of finish' , that would be the other factor in choosing one over the other. i'm guessing there's no difference because you would have mentioned it.. but figured i'd ask. thanks.
No real difference in dust collection, both do a very good job. I think the only separating factor would be the push button verses the paddle switch, and who prefers what
Hallo there 😉 have a nice x-mas, I went in to Tjek your test, but then I start to thing about your workbench, the top is that one you bought (if yes where and what is the keyword for a search) or did you make it your self? One more thing those clamps you are using what's the name?
Greetings from Brian carpenter from Denmark
Hi Brian! I made bench top, but bought the clamps. They are festool clamps
The swirl marks with the festool are a bit surprising. Is that something you have experienced regularly? I would guess that more suction could have helped with that(?). Regarding the speed, the difference in stroke length is effectively a difference in feed rate, which makes the festool effectively 3/5 slower than the mirka on paper. Fairly close to what you measured i guess. The time difference would probably be negligible with a festool 150/5. Festool also have the protective interface pads so that you can use abranet on a festool sander which is a great combo as well. Thanks for the video.
I’ve had issues with the Festool leaving large swirl patterns for quite a while, and the higher the suction the more swirl marks I’ve gotten. They say on that the more pressure, the more sanding marks, so more suction is not good(because it essentially vacuums itself more firmly onto the workpiece). That being said the Mirka didn’t have any issues with leaving swirl patterns, which is why I choose it over the Festool
I saw a product at Woodcraft called "Slide-Kick" that clips to your belt and helps hold your hose. Might be worth a try to not have to hold the hose yourself. Great video!
Really appreciate this review. It helped me decide to go with Mirka - which I was initially leaning towards. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
The Deros is lighter (1.0 vs 1.2 kg), the Deros has less height (more feeling with your work), and the Deros has a greater RPM reach (Deros: 4.000-10.000 Festool:6.000-10.000).
The Deros is just the better sander imo. One thing i don't like on my Deros is the paddle, someone else already explained why. The next Deros should have a simple on/off switch.
Besides this one small flaw it's the perfect sander.
but mirka it lasts 3 times less
Are you referring to the circuit board issues they were having due to overheating?
I am a carpenter. At my work we also have the mirka deros. But after sanding some cabinets for about 5 to 10 min. My hands are tinkeling. And also with the Mirka you defintitly can see the sanding marks. The Mirka is not flawless.
@@mathijsvijn2144 Lower rpm, takes longer but no tinkeling. I use abranet discs and going from course to fine to finer i have no pigtail marks
There are some balancing screws that go in the counterweight that you can access once you remove the pad. Make sure you have the correct screws in the counterweight or else it won’t be balanced, and it will cause more vibration.
I have 6 Festool sanders for the last 8 years, never had any problems, my friends that have Mirka everyone of there sanders has had problems.
I've had mine for 5 years with no problems
Thanks so much for the effort in putting this together and very interesting result. I have Festool gear and when going to buy a mid weight sander tested these exact two models next to each other. I couldn't really see any difference in the finishes but went with the Festool mainly for plug compatibility when switching between it and the Rotex when up a scaffold. The Mirka paddle switch also went on accidentally when flipped over to change paper and nearly did damage to soft body parts. But on your review I'll give it another go. Am struggling a bit to understand how near identical machines can have swirl marks on one and not the other, especially with a smaller stroke on the green one.. Could pressure from your hand could have been a factor?
Hand pressure could have been a factor, but I used the same method on both sanders, so the pressure difference was noticeable to me. All I know is that if I sand the same way with both sanders the Mirka gives me better results. You can also turn off the Mirka before changing the paper and the paddle won’t engage the machine
d.COG. Another factor that not to many people think about is suction from the vacuum to the sander. Mirka having less holes creates less suction which creates less pig tails because there is less friction to the sanding surface. The Festool ETS just needs less suction because it has more holes with out sacrificing the dust collection.
michael arreguin actually the Mirka has more holes...
@@SteneWoodwork Suction might be worth considering though? Our ETS sticks to the wall with a 120 grit paper on it. Would be interesting to compare both machines on the same vac and gradually dial the pressure down. Might be going a bit too far too!
I read that about the suction too when I was trying to troubleshoot the issues I was having with the Festool when I first got it. I changed my sanding method, turned the suction all the way down, with barely improved results. In this test I ran both the mirka and the festool on the same vac with the same suction setting.
Thanks. Question: what kind of clamps you re using for your workbench? They Look Good to me...Cheers
they're festool toggle clamps!
Do you use your 650 for between coats of varnish/oil/etc? Im trying to decide on the 625 or 650.
I use it for everything. I would suggest the 650, as many who have the 625 say the difference isn’t that big between the two
Stene Woodwork thanks!
Thanks for the video. Debating between the Mirka 650 & 625. Difference is the orbit diameter, 5mm 2.5mm.. think it would make a difference? Primary sanding will be for medium/smaller epoxy tables. Cheers
Sorry about the late reply, the 5mm has been adequate in every way for me. The 2.5 would more apply to the automotive industry
@@SteneWoodwork np.. thanks! Ended up getting 5mm 🍻
@@Rishi.Rao. how has your experience been with the Mirka? I am about to purchase either the Mirka 650 or the Festool ETS EC 150/5. Apparently the Festool ETS EC has some chip issues that are causing some problems with overheating and some resulting supply issues.
@@jamescharity5003 been awesome. i will not use another sander again.
Stick abranet on both. Why have both sanders at the highest speed setting? Will the interface pad from Mirka work on a Festool!, different hole pattern?
I simply wanted the sanders to have the same rpm, so that the speed isn't a factor. I'm not sure if the Mirka interface pad works on the Festool, I don't use Festool paper so I wouldn't know.
I would have recommended sanding with the same paper for sanding tests, but sanding with their native papers for extraction tests.
Thanks for the demonstration, can you give me a link to where you bought those clamps you used to hold down the wood.?
That is Festool
Hi Stene, your test is very helpful. ThankS!!
You are welcome!
Great test. I did a similar test around 6 years ago with a bunch of different sanders and that’s why I went with the mirka. Well done sir!!! Test don’t guess
Thanks man, looks like they’ve been on top for a while!
What sort of use has it had Eric Reason and how is it after 6 years?
d.COG. That’s a great question. It’s still going and it probably sees on average 5-6 hours per week since I am a 1-2 man shop.
What is the prices on both Sanders and where can I buy them? Great video by the way 😁
Late to the game but something else that puts mirka in front- you can get all their stuff in pneumatic. Lighter and a lot harder to fence.
I agree!
Now that you had for over a year, how has the Mirka behaved? Any issues? Thanks.
I have yet to have a malfunction with it. I did buy a new pad though, as the hook and loop was no longer holding the sandpaper
@@SteneWoodwork Thank you!
I think that Mirka would give even better results if setup with their specific sandpapers (E.g. Abranet) . However, you performed a great test.
I agree, the Mirka abrasives are great. Thank you for the kind words!
You may try sandpaper from abranet on the mirka andfind out the difference whit normal sandpaper. Abranet lives 20 times longer, better dust removel because the hole surface is open.
I do prefer the abranet, but for the sake of comparing the two sanders I thought it was best to use the same paper on both.
Thank you for putting this test, very informative and enjoyable to watch.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can you use the 125mm pads on the 625 deros? I know they make the 5650 that uses both sizes and comes with both size pads, but not sold in the US.
I am able to switch between 5” and 6” pads because I bought the 6” model(different motor than the 5” model), but if I had purchased the 5” model I wouldn’t be able to use the 6” and preserve the longevity of the motor. I’m sure it is possible, but they don’t recommend it.
Stene Woodwork thank you!
Great video thanks for this. While I've consistently seen / heard that the Mirka DEROS is better than Festool I've heard a lot of complaints saying that the Mirka DEROS fails and once the warranty expires you're out of luck. Have you experience any failures with the DEROS at all? Have your colleagues using the DEROS experienced aby failures? Thanks again. I've just ordered a DEROS but am thinking of cancelling the order given the poor track record of the tool.
I’ve only seen one in person, and that was within one year of heavy use. I will talk more to the people at Mirka in Finland about the issue and get back to you
@@SteneWoodwork hey Stene did you hear anything back from the Mirka rep? Appreciate your input on this.
Did you get the Mirka pal?
Wow really? I was just about to buy one too after Amazon global reviews are 4.6 stars and just all round great reviews online 🤷🏻♂️ I guess Il look deeper into it , where did you derive negative info on it Appleseed?
@@billynomates290 check out this video here at the 6 minute mark pretty sad to hear such poor reliability on what appears to be an amazing sander: m.ruclips.net/video/GxkTdbSXTsc/видео.html&t=6m
Why not use abranet and then at least get the mirka in its natural set up spec
I wanted to compare sander to sander, any sander is better using Abranet.
do the ø125 festool paper holes line up with the mirka ø125 plate holes? thanks.
Some of them do yes, but not all
really good video,Thanks for shearing
thank you for your demonstration
You’re very welcome
Which has most vibrations?
To be honest I found the Festool to be smoother feeling, but it was very slight
@@SteneWoodwork That could be because of the smaller stroke (3mm vs 5).
Why are you not supposed to run them at full speed?
In the Festool manual they have recommended speed settings depending on the material being sanded. A lot of folks try to mess with different settings(sander speed, suction power) in order to achieve a better finish. I tried everything under the sun, but still had irregular swirls all over the place. I used the Mirka once and didn't change any settings, nor did I do anything different in my sanding style, and I had a flawless finish.
@@SteneWoodwork thanks for the reply. I was on the fence but going to go with this one
So, why not use Abranet on both??
I didn’t have enough in the correct grits 🤷🏼♂️
I apprteciate you wanted to be fair with the same grit of sandpaper on both sanders, but then you killed it having 5mm MIRKA and 3mm Festool
I disagree, the 3mm is supposed to leave a better finish, but lack in sanding speed. The Mirka, even though it's 5mm, outperformed the Festool, leaving a better finish despite the larger sanding pattern. I'd say it proved how good the Mirka is
It worked very well
Bearing in mind the Mirka was hamstrung by not using Abranet it is much better. I have festool and mirka and rarely use the festool. The mirka is just better.
I would agree with you.
Went the Festool, no regrets they also do their own mesh pads zero dust on my ct dialled down 😎
That’s great! As long as you’re getting good results there’s no need to look anywhere else 👍🏻
The Festool ETS EC 125 does accept the Festool 150 disc but one needs to use the set screw of the 125 to mount it. Works perfectly without vibrations added . Look here: ruclips.net/video/B1TmsDlq8xw/видео.html&ab_channel=OverkillWoodcraft
It will definitely fit, but it will void your warranty. Ask festool if you don't believe me
@@SteneWoodwork Why tell Festool if it fits perfectly and also works perfectly? The bigger disc doesn't add more vibrations - its feels exactly the smooth same as the smaller disc. It does not do the machine harm at all.
The Mirka would have totally killed it if the Alburnett disk was used.
I agree!
Festool= better motor, better electronics, 3 year warranty and if you buy it at Klium.com you get 5 years warranty and if it gets stolen from your car the first 3 years you only pay 100 euro and get a new one. It sands just as good as a Mirka but with much better warranty and overall build quallity. I own a Rotex 150 from 2011 and it keeps going and going. I don’t even look at other brands no more.
Well first off the rotex is a completely different type of sander, so there's that. I owned the rotex, and sold it after using the Bosch dual mode sander. The Bosch was much smoother and just as aggressive. Second, I wouldn't want the Festool sander for that long, because it would mean that I would have to deal with sanding issues the whole time. I think this video clearly shows the difference between the two, and how the Mirka, even having a larger orbital pattern, still gave a nicer finish than the Festool.
Unfair comparison
Festool has a stroke of 3 mm and mirka 5 mm.
You’re right it is unfair, the festool should have far fewer visible scratch marks, yet it has multiple times more. The festool with a smaller orbit should leave a much better finish ready surface, yet it is way worse. It is unfair, especially to the people (like me) that bought into the “precision unmatched” marking bullsh*t
@@SteneWoodwork Yeah, from that point of view, they're right.
Tomorrow, my Mirka will arrieve me😎😎😎
These videos are great dude. if you're are on fb? Join the @dustless power tools professional only.
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Stene Woodwork
Thank you sir
must be a idiot to buy a mirka they always break down never had a problem with my festools
I'd rather have a sander that produces good results and breaks down(which I've never experienced personally) than a sander that puts irregular scratch marks all over my material IMO
“Cause cancer”????.? NOT FUNNY!
funny is a subjective emotion I guess