Just wanted to say I discovered your channel last night and am a big fan (already subscribed). I must have binge-watched 10 videos already! I enjoy your laid-back fun way of presenting serious/helpful information. I'm a retired teacher and you have a lot of communication skills that make for being a good teacher. Looking forward to catching up on all your other videos - but probably at a more leisurely pace!
For your air pump getting dirty....... I'm a big fan of fenders to keep things cleaner. Especially the chain and the third bottle cage. Obviously works better for road touring. But even when using gravel roads and dirt paths, it still keeps clean(er). And does a good job of keeping the dust lower. Sometimes the bottom of my panniers will get dusty. But the top is much cleaner. So I very rarely have to worry about dust getting into all my gear.
Yes for touring I definitely have fenders on. I think just having the peanut butter jar or some fuel down there will work better since I won’t mind it getting bit dusty.
Love you guys. I struggled with how to get bags on my frame (2001 Trek mtn bike, front suspension, 26”, cables on top of the front rail, short person, etc) so I just got a Burley cargo carrier for bike camping (and running down to the store, etc). As long as I’m not single tracking, I’m good! I just have to worry about how much weight I’m carrying for the distance. I’m doing some test runs on some local trails and so far love it.
The Topeak Road Morph pump on my bike is one I found on the side of the road. It was so easy to disassemble and restore. I found it full of rain water and grit. The rubber parts were undamaged. I coated the inside with some Blast which is probably lithium grease. I think mineral oil would have been fine lube too.
Good tips. I should take it apart and have a look and have learned my lesson to keep the pump out of the elements when possible! Thanks (also nice find getting the pump on the side of the road)!
The origin 8 eyelet stud is an awesome solution to mount lights when running a handlebar bag. Your solutions to bike packing/commuting challenges are genius. I commute seven miles to work and am working towards a setup for the winter sun.
Like it guys!!. Myself and my hubby ride Bromptons the small wheel folder. I have noticed that a few Brompton riders have started to use the rear bags, we have old style saddlebags. Looking forward to seeing your rebuild of your bike. Keep Safe!!
Loved this! I've never packed my bike yet, so am curious of different setups. This was super helpful and definitely gave me an idea of what to purchase!
Hello from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦 nice to share your adventure a nice one I’ve been thinking of doing is taking a ferry from Canada to Los Angeles or Seattle for a trip 😎
Thank you ladies for my weekly bike touring lockdown fix! Can't really get into the super light bikepacking methodology. Too old, (73), usually solo and like my home comforts too much. Thermarest harness system to make chair for example. Have tried cutting down and only using a tarp, but prefer to be a bit heavier. I find high weight in handle bar mounted bag not so good, low rider bags better for me with a smallish cockpit /handlebar bag set up. Here in Austria it is illegal to wild camp, same in Germany and Switzerland, so as you must use campsites may as well be comfortable. Keep looking at Topeak saddle packs though!
If your looking for more water capacity then look at the crank tank 4 by adventure Hydration. It's a 4Lt water bottle that sits in the frame triangle, it's also a "Robust" bit of gear.
I think you two are delightful and have a very warm disposition. If we lived closer, I would certainly asked to do some touring with you two. I've just recently returned from doing a mini bicycle ride up the West Coast of Florida. I live in Ohio. I'm thinking of doing the East Coast Greenway Trail next. Or a portion of it I should say.
Good video. I've done long bike tours with racks and panniers and plan to try the bikepacking style this year. Looking forward to hearing more about that Sutra ULTD as it is on the short list for what may be my next bike. I want something I can set up for either bikepacking or racks and panniers.
I did my first overnighter ,2 days ago. I really like the hip bag, and like the little light on the fork attachment. Another option I'm leaning to is a bivy and tarp, instead of a tent. Nice comment on two pairs of clothes.- could you survive, maybe more clothes on longer trips- between washing what you got?
Nice! Overall pretty similar to the setup I've used. I like to carry water on my fork mounts - it just feels very stable to me, and it let's me carry a lot of water (I'm in southern Arizona so I really worry about water). I love the Roadrunner Middle Earth bag - I've used it primarily as a commuter bag, but I can see it being a great pack bag. Great video - I hope it'll inspire people to get out there!
Thanks Patrick! When the weather starts warming we’ll definitely be needing to carry LOTS of water. Thinking the frame bag can hold more but putting bottles on the forks or seat stays is also a great idea 👍 💧
Good stuff! Why the hip bag versus the backpack style hydration bag? I can see that it is likely easier to access things in the bag,. With the backpack, you have to take it off to get into it. Is there any other reason?
I find it more comfortable for longer rides. You don't have something pulling on your shoulders and don't get a super sweaty back (I like more air flow!). And yes, quick access too.
So I’ve seen ur other videos. Do u think there is still a place / need for a touring pannier setup? Thinking of northern tier 2+ month trip. Mostly pavement probably but any rail trail I can find. Not much dedicated gravel
It seems there's almost nothing you guys can't fix or change on your bikes. Sure, I know how to fix a puncture but it must give you a lot of confidence. Especially when you run into technical problem in the middle of nowhere. Anyways...it won't stop me cycling cause you guys too motivate and inspire to do so. Oh...that Kona Sutra ULTD is a gorgeous "beast"! Gratulations!! Have you made a video about a/the toolkit you take with you on your tours? Atb, Jan
Why not a traditional cotton duck saddlebag like a Carradice. The way you're set up, particularly with frame bag means a lot of side drag in a crosswind. Enjoy your cycling, thanks for the video.
Great video! Are you planning to do a Sutra vs Sutra ULTD video at some point? I'd be really interested in seeing a comparison on the versatility of each one for both touring and bikepacking
@@radbikeadventure I'd be interested too; the old LTD just changed the components, but the ULTD changed the geometry. Also, how useful is a plastic fork?
Get custom made frame bags that way you can maxuims every mm of space look at bbd and jpaks they make really good ones .... 100% waterproof ... for all my setups the frame bags is 2 water bladders one side and tools other side as that way i can carry 6 litres of water and balance is perfect centre of the bike for off roading . i would put sleep system ie sleeping bag air pad and sleep clothes in front big bag ... then the 2 fork bags one for winter clothes rain gear etc the other one summer clothes..... then seatpost bag is for just food simple.... also where you place your pump put in frame bag with tools it stay clean and where the pump is now put cooksystem ie jetboil or custom cookset or fuel bottles msr ... first aid kit on top of the seatpost bag easy access and fast ..... when you need it.... your good to go
Thanks for the tips! I like having my clothes in the back though so it’s all together and since there are two of us we can split things up. We have framebags on the way from Rogue Panda...so excited! Also, for many of us with small sized bikes you can’t fit anything large on the underside of the bike but a jar of peanut butter does fit perfectly 😉. Cheers Mark!
@@radbikeadventure I've been using a Rogue Panda rolltop frame bag. Their stuff is awesome. You're gonna love it. The stuff is built to last. Metal buckles on the closure straps. Velcro straps for the frame are beefy and the velcro itself is super grippy.
Where was this ride? Looks like a mix of trail and gravel. I’m on North San Diego County and looking for a weekender in SoCal that’s mostly off road, but not too technical.
I’ve been looking at those Jumbo Jammer bags. My concern is that it’s too big and would throw off steering if full. Curious about your experience with it.
Love your videos! Because of COVID restrictions, it seems the only options are camping and exploring locally. I am curious with water and gear, how much does your bike weigh? My concern is having to replace a spoke on the trip. Continue to produce the informative videos.
Do you think these setups are spacious enough for a around-the-world trip? Obviously you can't carry as much with bikepacking setup. Also, with rear panniers, the weight distribution is more towards the rear. How the handling of the bike compares to the more front-heavy bikepacking setup? Thanks, love your videos. Planning my trip in 2023.
Their setup will shift once their frame bags are on. Bikepacking is more about going light. That doesn't mean not being able to go as far or as long. But it does mean doing it with greater priority to the essentials. Also, weight principles are still the same. The frame bag is where most of the heaviest weight goes, keeping it low and center. While it might be true that this setup sacrifices some comfort at camp, its also true that (imo) it makes the actual riding as much or more comfortable. Less weight means less energy you have to expend to move it.
I suppose carrying water in the lumbar area is not very comfy. I tried. Didn't like it. If you are getting frame bags you can consider Apidura Expedition. It has outlet for the tube, you can put you hydration system there keeping the tube out. Or let it out from another bag through the partially open zipper.
I find as long as I keep it to a litre or a little more in the lumbar I'm good. When I overfill it, it's really uncomfortable. But hey, to each their own! We'll for sure be holding water in the frame bags too.
Have either of you ever had knee issues from cycling? Since you use flat pedals, do you need to be conscious of how you place your foot on the pedal for long distances to avoid injuries?
Why not just buy a rack and two bags and keep the weight low and the bike more stable? With all this stuff everywhere, the bike has that homeless bum aesthetic.
Just wanted to say I discovered your channel last night and am a big fan (already subscribed). I must have binge-watched 10 videos already! I enjoy your laid-back fun way of presenting serious/helpful information. I'm a retired teacher and you have a lot of communication skills that make for being a good teacher. Looking forward to catching up on all your other videos - but probably at a more leisurely pace!
For your air pump getting dirty.......
I'm a big fan of fenders to keep things cleaner. Especially the chain and the third bottle cage. Obviously works better for road touring. But even when using gravel roads and dirt paths, it still keeps clean(er). And does a good job of keeping the dust lower. Sometimes the bottom of my panniers will get dusty. But the top is much cleaner. So I very rarely have to worry about dust getting into all my gear.
Yes for touring I definitely have fenders on. I think just having the peanut butter jar or some fuel down there will work better since I won’t mind it getting bit dusty.
Ryan really likes the word “robust” 😆.
Looking forward to your first post-COVID overnight video!
Love you guys. I struggled with how to get bags on my frame (2001 Trek mtn bike, front suspension, 26”, cables on top of the front rail, short person, etc) so I just got a Burley cargo carrier for bike camping (and running down to the store, etc). As long as I’m not single tracking, I’m good! I just have to worry about how much weight I’m carrying for the distance. I’m doing some test runs on some local trails and so far love it.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing your bikepacking gear! I'm also a Kona Sutra LTD aficionado 🌝 for both bikepacking and touring!
Really enjoyed both of your setups and how much fun you both were having explaining things.
Thank you for being you.
Kula Cloth...mmmmm, I'm convinced to try one. What cool patterns they have!
I know! We love their designs.
Discovered your videos last week. Loving them! And I subscribed. No clue why anyone would give them a thumbs down. You two are RAD!
The Topeak Road Morph pump on my bike is one I found on the side of the road. It was so easy to disassemble and restore. I found it full of rain water and grit. The rubber parts were undamaged. I coated the inside with some Blast which is probably lithium grease. I think mineral oil would have been fine lube too.
Good tips. I should take it apart and have a look and have learned my lesson to keep the pump out of the elements when possible! Thanks (also nice find getting the pump on the side of the road)!
love your smiles, it so cute and natural ❤️
The origin 8 eyelet stud is an awesome solution to mount lights when running a handlebar bag. Your solutions to bike packing/commuting challenges are genius. I commute seven miles to work and am working towards a setup for the winter sun.
Like it guys!!. Myself and my hubby ride Bromptons the small wheel folder. I have noticed that a few Brompton riders have started to use the rear bags, we have old style saddlebags. Looking forward to seeing your rebuild of your bike. Keep Safe!!
Awesome stream ladies!!! Can’t wait for all the snow and I get out of here. Rail Trails which I prefer are all snowed in. Bummer.
Thanks Rory! How about Snowbiking?!
Loved this! I've never packed my bike yet, so am curious of different setups. This was super helpful and definitely gave me an idea of what to purchase!
8:07 I learned something new today lol! ^_^
Hello from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦 nice to share your adventure a nice one I’ve been thinking of doing is taking a ferry from Canada to Los Angeles or Seattle for a trip 😎
I just figured out "RaD". :D Love your videos!
i love this couple and YES! they are loaded again! 🤘😁🚴🚴
Woohoo! Definitely ready for some local adventures again! Thanks Nick!
Thank you ladies for my weekly bike touring lockdown fix!
Can't really get into the super light bikepacking methodology. Too old, (73), usually solo and like my home comforts too much. Thermarest harness system to make chair for example. Have tried cutting down and only using a tarp, but prefer to be a bit heavier.
I find high weight in handle bar mounted bag not so good, low rider bags better for me with a smallish cockpit /handlebar bag set up.
Here in Austria it is illegal to wild camp, same in Germany and Switzerland, so as you must use campsites may as well be comfortable. Keep looking at Topeak saddle packs though!
Super enjoy this channel. Great preparation for my own tour coming up.
If your looking for more water capacity then look at the crank tank 4 by adventure Hydration. It's a 4Lt water bottle that sits in the frame triangle, it's also a "Robust" bit of gear.
Merry Christmas (or other Happy/Merry greeting!).
You two are a fun duo! ✌🏻❤️
Well done thanks for sharing!
I'm so glad I found you guys! Thank you for your videos! It's nice to see women bikepacking
I think you two are delightful and have a very warm disposition. If we lived closer, I would certainly asked to do some touring with you two. I've just recently returned from doing a mini bicycle ride up the West Coast of Florida. I live in Ohio. I'm thinking of doing the East Coast Greenway Trail next. Or a portion of it I should say.
Bikes are looking good 🤩! Love the minimalistic approach of “bike packing”. Great video 👍🏽
Nice - it's all about the pillows ... and snacks def the snacks
You know what’s up 😉
Great handlebar bags, I ordered myself the same one, I hope it will be delivered to me in Russia without an address error)
Good video. I've done long bike tours with racks and panniers and plan to try the bikepacking style this year.
Looking forward to hearing more about that Sutra ULTD as it is on the short list for what may be my next bike. I want something I can set up for either bikepacking or racks and panniers.
Gotta have those snacks ❤
What is the attachment for holding your front light? Can you advise where to buy them.
Thanks.
Maybe the Paul Component one??
www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/mounting-solutions/light-mounts/gino-light-mount/
Hi Tony! It's this guy: amzn.to/3d5sTYS
I did my first overnighter ,2 days ago. I really like the hip bag, and like the little light on the fork attachment. Another option I'm leaning to is a bivy and tarp, instead of a tent. Nice comment on two pairs of clothes.- could you survive, maybe more clothes on longer trips- between washing what you got?
Nice! Overall pretty similar to the setup I've used. I like to carry water on my fork mounts - it just feels very stable to me, and it let's me carry a lot of water (I'm in southern Arizona so I really worry about water). I love the Roadrunner Middle Earth bag - I've used it primarily as a commuter bag, but I can see it being a great pack bag. Great video - I hope it'll inspire people to get out there!
Thanks Patrick! When the weather starts warming we’ll definitely be needing to carry LOTS of water. Thinking the frame bag can hold more but putting bottles on the forks or seat stays is also a great idea 👍 💧
Great video!
Enjoyed the video! Keep it up :)
Cheers Joff!
Absolutely nice and shining! ...And the Konas are too, looks great :D
Thank you 😃 🤘
Good stuff! Why the hip bag versus the backpack style hydration bag? I can see that it is likely easier to access things in the bag,. With the backpack, you have to take it off to get into it. Is there any other reason?
I find it more comfortable for longer rides. You don't have something pulling on your shoulders and don't get a super sweaty back (I like more air flow!). And yes, quick access too.
Kona makes some nice bikes
Great video 👍
So I’ve seen ur other videos. Do u think there is still a place / need for a touring pannier setup? Thinking of northern tier 2+ month trip. Mostly pavement probably but any rail trail I can find. Not much dedicated gravel
It seems there's almost nothing you guys can't fix or change on your bikes. Sure, I know how to fix a puncture but it must give you a lot of confidence. Especially when you run into technical problem in the middle of nowhere. Anyways...it won't stop me cycling cause you guys too motivate and inspire to do so. Oh...that Kona Sutra ULTD is a gorgeous "beast"! Gratulations!! Have you made a video about a/the toolkit you take with you on your tours? Atb, Jan
Why not a traditional cotton duck saddlebag like a Carradice. The way you're set up, particularly with frame bag means a lot of side drag in a crosswind. Enjoy your cycling, thanks for the video.
Does watching this when it is posted at 1 am local time make me dedicated or addicted ?
Just a night owl hehe🦉 !
Nice vlog as allways from u 2. I try to find the salsa anything bag, but cant find here. Will try find your other fork bag roadrunner. Chears
Thanks Mauritz! Yes, I believe Roadrunner ships international. Really quality bags, we love 'em.
Great video! Are you planning to do a Sutra vs Sutra ULTD video at some point? I'd be really interested in seeing a comparison on the versatility of each one for both touring and bikepacking
Hi Bill, we hadn’t planned on making that video but that could be a good one! Thanks for the suggestion
@@radbikeadventure I'd be interested too; the old LTD just changed the components, but the ULTD changed the geometry. Also, how useful is a plastic fork?
I'd also be interested in that!
Get custom made frame bags that way you can maxuims every mm of space look at bbd and jpaks they make really good ones .... 100% waterproof ... for all my setups the frame bags is 2 water bladders one side and tools other side as that way i can carry 6 litres of water and balance is perfect centre of the bike for off roading . i would put sleep system ie sleeping bag air pad and sleep clothes in front big bag ... then the 2 fork bags one for winter clothes rain gear etc the other one summer clothes..... then seatpost bag is for just food simple.... also where you place your pump put in frame bag with tools it stay clean and where the pump is now put cooksystem ie jetboil or custom cookset or fuel bottles msr ... first aid kit on top of the seatpost bag easy access and fast ..... when you need it.... your good to go
Thanks for the tips! I like having my clothes in the back though so it’s all together and since there are two of us we can split things up. We have framebags on the way from Rogue Panda...so excited! Also, for many of us with small sized bikes you can’t fit anything large on the underside of the bike but a jar of peanut butter does fit perfectly 😉. Cheers Mark!
@@radbikeadventure my girlfriend rides a fatbike she only 4.8 and 38 kgs tiny so sher bike frame really small cant even get a seatpost bag on it lol
@@Bikepacking Being a smaller rider can make it a little tricky to fit everything!
@@radbikeadventure I've been using a Rogue Panda rolltop frame bag. Their stuff is awesome. You're gonna love it. The stuff is built to last. Metal buckles on the closure straps. Velcro straps for the frame are beefy and the velcro itself is super grippy.
Where was this ride? Looks like a mix of trail and gravel. I’m on North San Diego County and looking for a weekender in SoCal that’s mostly off road, but not too technical.
hi u 2 are the best qu do u find the h20 taste like plastic in the fanny pack ?
Love the video, as always. It just popped into my head; do you have a snakebite kit in your first aid kit?
We don’t. Is that something you carry? What is in a snake bite kit?
I’ve been looking at those Jumbo Jammer bags. My concern is that it’s too big and would throw off steering if full. Curious about your experience with it.
Love your videos! Because of COVID restrictions, it seems the only options are camping and exploring locally. I am curious with water and gear, how much does your bike weigh? My concern is having to replace a spoke on the trip. Continue to produce the informative videos.
Where can I get those front bag, and how it's supported?
They are made by Roadrunner Bags. I will have a review in the near future!
Hello, I'm new to bike packing. Good informative video! I noticed you are both riding brooks saddles. Are you liking them. Recommend them? Thanks
Absolutely. Check out our long term review and care videos to see the stoke we have for Brooks!
Do you think these setups are spacious enough for a around-the-world trip? Obviously you can't carry as much with bikepacking setup. Also, with rear panniers, the weight distribution is more towards the rear. How the handling of the bike compares to the more front-heavy bikepacking setup? Thanks, love your videos. Planning my trip in 2023.
Their setup will shift once their frame bags are on. Bikepacking is more about going light. That doesn't mean not being able to go as far or as long. But it does mean doing it with greater priority to the essentials. Also, weight principles are still the same. The frame bag is where most of the heaviest weight goes, keeping it low and center. While it might be true that this setup sacrifices some comfort at camp, its also true that (imo) it makes the actual riding as much or more comfortable. Less weight means less energy you have to expend to move it.
I suppose carrying water in the lumbar area is not very comfy. I tried. Didn't like it. If you are getting frame bags you can consider Apidura Expedition. It has outlet for the tube, you can put you hydration system there keeping the tube out. Or let it out from another bag through the partially open zipper.
I find as long as I keep it to a litre or a little more in the lumbar I'm good. When I overfill it, it's really uncomfortable. But hey, to each their own! We'll for sure be holding water in the frame bags too.
Have either of you ever had knee issues from cycling? Since you use flat pedals, do you need to be conscious of how you place your foot on the pedal for long distances to avoid injuries?
A proper bike fit will alleviate knee issues. It did for me. Game changer.
Did y’all protect the frames from bag rubbing the paint off?
Yes, for our new frame bags, we have a clear protective sticker we put on our frames.
Nice Setup
Won't the Hip bags cause any stress on the body?
What about sleeping bags
What is the light mount that Darin is using on the front please?
It's from Origin8 but I use a similar one from Problem Solvers and it works well.
@@lisaknox6284 bought the problem solvers one. Sorted. Many thanks
was anyone else freaked out by the hot air baloon far off in the distance around the 4 minute mark?
Nice greatings from Switzerland🇨🇭👍
👋 Love cycling your country!
Kula cloth, not poola cloth. Got it.
Ultd is for unlimited and Ltd is for limited
konaworld.com/sutra.cfm
konaworld.com/sutra_ltd.cfm
konaworld.com/sutra_ultd.cfm
They make 3 versions of the Sutra for 2021 in Canada.
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Why not just buy a rack and two bags and keep the weight low and the bike more stable? With all this stuff everywhere, the bike has that homeless bum aesthetic.