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  • Опубликовано: 24 окт 2021
  • Motorcycle wreck at the Dragon as some of my friends and I were taking a relaxing route through TN and NC that took us to the Dragon. Rider was unharmed and was able to pick his bike and off the ditch to continue his ride. What do you think happened?

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  • @hans6304
    @hans6304 2 года назад +29

    Respect to you guys doing what you did after the cruiser crashed. Very honorable. Stay safe and enjoy the ride, folks!

  • @wwb7091
    @wwb7091 2 года назад +21

    If you look closely, some hard parts touched and it slipped sideways a bit, then regained traction, which induced a "death wobble". Only after that did he look at the ditch instead of the corner.

  • @Ddgi-u73
    @Ddgi-u73 2 года назад +26

    My guesses are target fixation, unfamiliarity with the motorcycle (the rider needs to take basic and advanced maneuvering courses), and environmental pressures (lots of people in a hurry at the Dragon, always tailgating). I'm glad the dude is OK. I've been riding/driving the dragon for over 23 years, and I've seen it all. Stay safe out there, don't outride your skillset.

    • @Yowzoe
      @Yowzoe 3 месяца назад

      I think if I were to ride it I’d do it at 6AM hoping for less traffic and tailgating. It’s easier to ride your own ride without those, don’t you think?

  • @Gurn_Blanston
    @Gurn_Blanston 4 месяца назад +8

    There's a lot of people in the comments offering their opinions, and it's obvious that most of them don't actually know how to ride. One goof-ball even claimed the crash was caused by having the transmission in 4th gear instead of third.
    I have a background as an expert-licensed motorcycle road racer, motorcycle road racing instructor, and motorcycle road racing official. I have ridden the Snaefel Mountain Course on the Isle of Man during the TT at triple-digit speeds in a big-bore Ducati. I have been over 200 mph on my superbike.
    The bottom line, is that guy simply doesn't know how to ride. Unfortunately, that's a very common problem. The vast majority of motorcyclists don't actually know how to ride. They'll get all butt hurt if you tell them they don't know how to ride, they'll swear up and down that they know how to ride, but they can't answer even the most basic questions that any real rider can answer.

    • @tompayton84
      @tompayton84 3 месяца назад +1

      Jesus the ego on this guy 😂

    • @Gurn_Blanston
      @Gurn_Blanston 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tompayton84 So you got all butt hurt because you don't know how to ride?

  • @stevenbrooks7776
    @stevenbrooks7776 2 года назад +17

    I drove a tow truck up there and all the way to the coast for 15 yrs. I've seen to many crashes ( cars and bikes) from inexperienced drivers/riders or dont respect the road, drive to fast, looking at all the pretty views and not pay attention.
    I love to go fast, but I know my surroundings, my abilities, the limits of my machine. This is a narrow, winding road with way to many blind curves and cars, especially on the weekends. I dont want to pick you up so be very safe and KNOW YOUR LIMITS. Just because the speedo says you can 180mph, dosent me you should. Try mines road in Livermore. Theres way less cars. The 1st rule of the sport is to get home in 1 piece. If you fail at the rule, no other rules apply. Be careful

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      I'll Google Mines Rd right now so I can check it out one day!! Thanks 🙏

    • @jkmotorcyclegloryroads532
      @jkmotorcyclegloryroads532 2 года назад

      You’re completely right.
      Of course, to your point, at least this road has speed limits that many feel don’t apply to them at all.

    • @steveoconnor7069
      @steveoconnor7069 2 года назад +1

      The Dragon is definitely not a road to be looking around at scenery. I use it to get from North Carolina to Tennessee as it was designed for. For scenery I ride the Cherohala or the BR Parkway.

  • @alexanderson2907
    @alexanderson2907 2 года назад +21

    I remember taking my MSF course... There was an older gent who when we went around and described ourselves told everyone that he had "been riding Harleys his whole life". He was kicked out of the course on the first day because he could not master the clutch. True story

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 2 года назад +3

      I highly doubt that was the real reason. Maybe be being arrogant was what did it.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +3

      @alex wow!! It's never about how many years you've ridden ... It's about how many miles and what type of miles

    • @2wheelsr2wheels39
      @2wheelsr2wheels39 2 года назад +3

      Perhaps he was used to the clutch on a big Harley and not the clutch feel of a small bike? But if he was kicked out on the first day I would think it was probably mostly an attitude problem on his part.

    • @antoniovenegas6237
      @antoniovenegas6237 2 года назад +13

      In my msf course, there were several Harley riders making fun of how small the bikes were ( Honda Groms). These guys couldn't even turn on those small bikes and one of them fell when he locked up the rear tire. 90% of Harley riders are posers

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 2 года назад +1

      @@antoniovenegas6237 I was behind two guys wearing patches riding what I assume were softails and they went to turn left. I think they leaned a whole 2° 🤣 I ride a Harley but I come from supersport bikes so I know how to ride. The reason I don't ride them anymore is that I'm older and like to speed and do hard carving and don't want to end up an organ donor like some of these fearless yoyos.

  • @damberson4698
    @damberson4698 2 года назад +42

    I’m my opinion target fixation and not looking ahead. You can’t manage the road directly in front of you. Looking down at road feet ahead in a corner and it’s too much to try to make minor line adjustments. He backed out of throttle and bike went straight.
    His head should have been turned to the exit of corner, periphery vision handles what’s feet in front of you

    • @turtle19dad
      @turtle19dad 2 года назад +4

      Yep definitely target fixation.

    • @jaybaar1
      @jaybaar1 2 года назад +4

      Totally agree - look where you want to go, not where you are

    • @wjb111
      @wjb111 2 года назад +3

      That was my first thought also

    • @romeredubost6971
      @romeredubost6971 2 года назад

      Nope, wrong gear for that curve.

    • @chrisfoxwell4128
      @chrisfoxwell4128 2 года назад

      @@romeredubost6971 , what gear do you think he was in?

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 2 года назад +4

    Dam! It’s bad going down for any reason. But this was a blessing in disguise, that rider went down against a soft target, on a hill that met him half way down, instead of the asphalt, plus if you look just 10-20’ ahead and there looks to be possibly a hole, but some big boulders with hard knarly edges! I certainly hope he’s ok. I remember overshooting a curve on a similar back road, back in the early 80’s, on a friend’s GPZ750 Turbo, but I got luck, I was able to use my dirt bike skills to actually stand on the pegs and somehow made it through all the trees, coming completely through the wooded area and back out on the road around the curve on the other side! The owner and the others were incredulous that I was ok and there were no scratches on the bike! That was an easy lesson learned about riding over my head, on the road anyways.

  • @poserwanabe
    @poserwanabe 2 года назад +11

    Target fixation

  • @moto-stars
    @moto-stars 2 года назад +8

    Hey, may I use this video in my next episode? Watermarked and linked to your channel of course.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +5

      Go for it!! I appreciate you checking in.

    • @moto-stars
      @moto-stars 2 года назад +2

      @@rolieats1104 Thank you!

  • @charlespflanze9651
    @charlespflanze9651 4 месяца назад +15

    I used to ride the Dragon all the time in the early to mid 70's. There was nobody there and if you were a solo rider you were completely on your own. No cell phones existed then - you crash playing road racer then it might be quite a while till anyone shows up to help you. If you fly off the mountainside and tumble downhill into trees and rocks good luck, nobody will ever know yer down there. The road back then was in poor condition, you'd encounter stuff on the road sometimes, and a few of the curves were reverse banked. I was scraping pavement on my low slung street pipes on CB450 and upgraded to another exhaust system that was out of the way. Also upgraded my rear shocks for better handling. The place was spectacular, almost a primeval wilderness. Now it's nothing but a madhouse of fools and people trying to show off and make noise. I'll never ever go back there. Thanks for ruining it all.

    • @tabryis
      @tabryis 3 месяца назад +1

      OK boomer 🤡

    • @406MenaceRacecar
      @406MenaceRacecar 3 месяца назад

      ​@@tabryis pretty much every time one of you clowns say "ok boomer" you're one of those people looking at us doing all the active things in life with cars and bikes while you play video games and be critical of people you envy.

    • @Robnord1
      @Robnord1 3 месяца назад +4

      @@tabryis You say that like it's an insult, but in fact it's a compliment. Charles and I grew up in a better time in almost every way you can think of. More freedom, more adventure, more time interacting with other humans rather than a GD machine, far fewer people on the planet. Not only that, but he and I get to get off this ride less than 20 years from now. You on the other hand are stuck in this fuckedup mess the world is in today if you're lucky and smart enough to live as long as Charles and I. Good luck. You'll need it.

    • @sriavula
      @sriavula 2 месяца назад

      @@Robnord1ur not wrong stop scaring me bro😭😭

    • @UncleWally3
      @UncleWally3 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m a Canadian who has ridden The Dragon countless times over the past seventeen years. Even in that timeframe the place has changed and so has my attitude, but I’d still make the pilgrimage. Broaden the unit of analysis to include the surrounding back roads like the BRP, Cherohala Skyway, Shenandoah National Park, Skyline Drive, and down to Two Wheels in Suches and you’ll likely find the real gold - the people who live there.

  • @andrewgiordano5275
    @andrewgiordano5275 2 года назад +8

    There's a difference between 20 years riding experience and 1 years experience 20 times. Some riders never try to improve their riding skills beyond novice level.

  • @LifebyDesign
    @LifebyDesign 2 года назад +3

    target fixation 101, panic braking which causes the bike to become upright mid turn. always look where you want to go.

  • @simonsmith1050
    @simonsmith1050 8 месяцев назад +2

    That crash started the corner before, not enough lean angle, wide on exit. No way he was gonna make the leftie on that yacht at that speed with that entry.

  • @scottking6662
    @scottking6662 2 года назад +13

    He wasn't going terribly fast... My opinion all of you were to close together..especially the guy right behind the Harley. Looks like he maybe dragged his left bag a bit and wasn't expecting it and jerked the bike back up and straight into the ditch. What did he say when you talked to him?

    • @handihouseofoakgrove
      @handihouseofoakgrove 2 года назад +5

      That corner gets tighter as you go into it. Just needed to lay it over more. Hope he is ok

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +4

      Luckily the rider was just fine!! He was probably a bit soar that next morning though

    • @artmchugh5644
      @artmchugh5644 2 года назад +1

      " OW ! AND FUCK !!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺

    • @wallacebell4311
      @wallacebell4311 2 года назад

      @@rolieats1104 *sore, not “soar!” Good God man, check your spelling occasionally why don’t you!!!

    • @andycapp3867
      @andycapp3867 4 месяца назад +2

      ⁠@@wallacebell4311……and it is the height of bad manners to correct others speech, spelling and grammar unless invited. You sir are ignorant of the most basic of social etiquette.

  • @johnpaulgarzaniti5065
    @johnpaulgarzaniti5065 2 года назад +12

    As a rider of average skills you are asking for trouble if you try to ride a "Big Tank like" Harley Davidson bike with virtually no ground clearance through tight curves.

    • @TomSestilio
      @TomSestilio 2 года назад +1

      I've seen guys on big bikes pull off way tighter curves with much steeper lean angles. This guy just didn't have the skill required to navigate the 🐉🐲

    • @ronfeast932
      @ronfeast932 2 года назад

      Called Hardley Driveables for a reason despite skill levels. Except Pam Am.

  • @bluevader8081
    @bluevader8081 2 года назад +16

    It looks as if the bag is touching the road and the driver is shocked and loses sight of the exit from the corner. Less skills?

  • @RealityCheckThat
    @RealityCheckThat 4 месяца назад +1

    Some say his left peg scraped the ground, but I don't think so. Didn't see any sparks and his lean angle didn't look that extreme.
    Some say his road position was to blame, but he didn't look like he was going too fast, so he should have been able to make the turn.
    Looked like he could have leaned even more and that he fixated on where he didn't want to go. So he ended up going where he was looking.

  • @DaBinChe
    @DaBinChe 2 года назад +4

    Looks like he hit hard parts leaned over then panic. You can see while still on the road the bike wiggled a little, I think that was when bike was leaned over too much and hit hard parts.

  • @rickjohnson9856
    @rickjohnson9856 2 года назад +5

    He should’ve stayed in it . Once he stood up, it was over. He may have been watching the bike ahead of him instead of looking ahead at the road.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      Probably... I thought maybe he hit pegs and that stood him up? Crazy stuff

  • @mechveteran01
    @mechveteran01 2 года назад +2

    Glad he was alright and his bike was still rideable. I got run off the road on Blood Mountain, GA back in 2013 and my bike was f*****. Aside from a pretty swollen hand I was alright but again, not so much for my bike. A terrible feeling. Glad everything worked out relatively ok.

  • @jesuschrist8991
    @jesuschrist8991 2 года назад +2

    That looked like the best way to do it away from the bike up a hill and into leaves. I remember flipping head over heels several times and getting knocked dragged out old lifted by about 5 people. Mine was motorcross crash however. Thankfully he's ok great video!

  • @RRBDDrivingSchool
    @RRBDDrivingSchool 2 года назад +1

    Hi there, may I use this on my channel? with credit

  • @MotoMaxi
    @MotoMaxi 2 года назад +4

    Hey! Can you please allow me to use this video in my compilation? Full credited. Thanks in advance!

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +2

      Go for it, Moto Maxi! Thanks for checking in.

  • @MotoMadness
    @MotoMadness 2 года назад +2

    Hey Roli, is it OK to feature your clip in a moto edit some time soon? It will be credited in the description & comments section with your name watermarked on the clip. Thanks, MM

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      You've got it!! Thanks for checking in!

    • @MotoMadness
      @MotoMadness 2 года назад +1

      @@rolieats1104 Thanks mate! I’ll let you know when I use it :)

    • @MotoMadness
      @MotoMadness 2 года назад +1

      @@rolieats1104 Hey mate, your clip is in the edit called NOBODY Said the BIKE LIFE Would be EASY!!! [Ep.#63]. Thanks for being a part of it! MM

    • @MotoMadness
      @MotoMadness 2 года назад +1

      @@rolieats1104 Here's the link - ruclips.net/video/AqXfVfG4Uc4/видео.html

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      @@MotoMadness Thanks for the shout out!! Great video too!! You've got a new subscriber 😅

  • @christiannestark9335
    @christiannestark9335 2 года назад +2

    You must look ahead of the turn when riding . I wanna ride the dragon someday looks like a blast

  • @JP-dw1fp
    @JP-dw1fp 2 месяца назад

    What happened? He looked at the edge of the road and as he headed where he was looking, he steered like he was driving a car. He turned the bars away from the edge and went right to it.

  • @XMotoMedia94
    @XMotoMedia94 2 года назад +3

    How?😮

    • @XMotoMedia94
      @XMotoMedia94 2 года назад +1

      Nice slow mo 😅

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      I'm still processing what happened myself ...

  • @vandall0160
    @vandall0160 3 месяца назад

    That curve has eaten many a bike. Recently, saw a trike go up the hill and peeled the bark off the tree to the left of this rider. The trike rider was not injured from what could be seen.

  • @jeffrielley920
    @jeffrielley920 2 года назад +4

    How many people would crash if they followed the speed limit?

    • @mhoeij
      @mhoeij 2 года назад

      It looks like these riders were following the speed limit.

    • @Kyle-sr6jm
      @Kyle-sr6jm 3 месяца назад

      A well designed bike can take a car limited road at ~1.5x to 2x without a problem.
      A poorly designed bike, bad tires, ignorant rider...can't navigate a road below the speed limit.

  • @scottc543
    @scottc543 2 года назад +1

    Just got a Porsche Boxster GTS this past weekend. Gotta get up there ASAP to drive the Dragon's Tail.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  3 месяца назад

      Dis you ever get up there with it? Perfect vehicle for that region

  • @dirtbikelunatic
    @dirtbikelunatic 2 года назад +1

    Hello! Good to use it in compilation? Full credited of course

  • @fivespeed3026
    @fivespeed3026 2 года назад +1

    I think he scraped a floorboard, panicked and stood the bike up, locked the front brake which made it wobble and then went off the road.

  • @_JimS
    @_JimS 2 года назад +6

    I feel the guy behind the cruiser could have got out of the cruisers mirrors and give the cruiser some space. Especially since they were "just taking is easy". Riding that close to someones "tail" could cause uneasiness for a rider/driver and cause them to break concentration, they may feel pressured and that could cause an accident....like here.

    • @wholelottamiata6976
      @wholelottamiata6976 2 года назад

      It’s almost like they make pull offs for that. You’re going to have someone close behind when you’re blopping around at half the speed limit. Most of the time cruisers are going slower than my bike idles so you have to sit there slipping the clutch.

    • @fishyfish06
      @fishyfish06 2 года назад

      The guy behind the cruiser wasn’t too close at all. The cruiser got target fixation, and nothing to do with the guy behind.

    • @jkmotorcyclegloryroads532
      @jkmotorcyclegloryroads532 2 года назад +1

      Curious why someone would ride a road that has POSTED speed limits that are obviously “slower than your bike idles”? Interesting.

    • @wholelottamiata6976
      @wholelottamiata6976 2 года назад

      @@jkmotorcyclegloryroads532 the speed limit is 30mph. The cruiser guys are usually taking those turns at 15mph or less and my bike idles at 15mph. Not sure why’d you go ride a road on a bike not equipped for it and impede the normal flow of traffic and not use the provided pull offs.

    • @_JimS
      @_JimS 2 года назад +1

      @@wholelottamiata6976 Go to a track day if you want to race. Too many people think this road is to race and go fast on…… try looking at the beauty of the road and region.

  • @SingerUnkn0wn
    @SingerUnkn0wn 2 года назад +6

    he was riding above his and the bikes skill level. many instances like this the rider is letting off the throttle and the bike stands up and wants to go straight.

    • @timothywald9079
      @timothywald9079 2 года назад +1

      The bike had nothing to do with the crash.

  • @apaixonadospormotores
    @apaixonadospormotores 2 года назад +1

    Hello friend, do you authorize me to use your video in one of my editions? I leave the name and link in the description. Thank you for your attention

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      Thanks for checking!! Sorry I missed this.
      Of course!

  • @KaosRiders
    @KaosRiders 2 года назад +1

    Hey man may I include this in a compilation? It'll be credited and linked back to your channel

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  3 месяца назад

      Never saw this 🤦‍♂️ Yes, of course

    • @KaosRiders
      @KaosRiders 3 месяца назад +1

      @@rolieats1104 Thanks

  • @cmcdonough55
    @cmcdonough55 2 года назад +1

    Bali, Indonesia has a hairy road heading down to the lake at the base of the volcano. Done thst on a harley a couple times.

  • @janbrittenson210
    @janbrittenson210 3 месяца назад

    Got caught in a progressive-radius turn, braked, locked up the rear wheel, when it grabbed again the bike stood up, sending the rider to the outside of the turn. ABS and especially some a cornering-aware ABS would have made this a non-issue. Might still have gone a little wide, but should have been fine.

  • @BikeNOVA
    @BikeNOVA 2 года назад +1

    Hello, May I use this video in my next compilation? ofc with full credits in the description and watermarked in the video.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      Bike Nova, go for it! Thanks for checking in

    • @BikeNOVA
      @BikeNOVA 2 года назад +1

      @@rolieats1104 Thank you I appreciate it 😊

  • @laziboix
    @laziboix 2 года назад +3

    Interesting day indeed. Always an adventure. 😎

  • @rodcurrieclassics8102
    @rodcurrieclassics8102 5 месяцев назад

    1) Lousy road position going into the corner, and 2) target fixation. If he'd been on the right of his lane going in to the left handed curve, it would have moved the apex IN towards ( but not ON) the centre line and brought him off the corner in the middle of his lane with space either side ...as it as he ran in shallow, thought he was running out of road and fixated on the dirt....if that's where you look, that's where you'll go.
    Truly glad he's OK and hope it didn't cost a mint to fix his bike up.

    • @Gurn_Blanston
      @Gurn_Blanston 4 месяца назад

      He doesn't know how to ride.

  • @owloped405
    @owloped405 2 года назад +1

    Crashes like this are scary because you watch them and say, yeah but what actually happened? There is this video of a guy who hits a fire truck head-on in a turn. (He survived.) I was fascinated by that video because I couldn't figure out what had happened. I studied it like crazy cause I could see myself making that same mistake. Most people in the comments said it was target fixation but then this one guy said, no, he's turning the bike not leaning it (counter steering.) So I got on my bike and turned the handlebars to try and turn at higher speeds. (Anything over 20mph or so? So not fast) When I turned the handlebars to go away from this imaginary incoming truck, the bike wobbled and straightened up and moved a bit more toward what I was avoiding, the imaginary truck. If I pretend panicked because my bike wobbled toward the thing I wanted to avoid and did it again, the bike wobbled more toward the imaginary object. When I leaned on the handlebars in the direction I wanted to go (not spinning them) the bike moved away from the imaginary object. Understanding the difference between when to turn your handlebars toward where you want to go (very low speed) and leaning on them (counter steering) is crucial. We unconsciously lean on them all the time, we don't even know we are ''counter steering" we kinda think we're turning the bars, and in a panic, we might spin the bars toward where we want to go because it seems logical. In this video, the bike does that little wobble before it goes off the road. That familiar turn the handlebars wobble. Same as the guy who hit the fire truck. Lean on the handlebar in the direction you want to go, not turn the handlebars in that direction. This is a difficult concept because we do it so unconsciously we don't know we're doing it. I practiced the distinction like crazy because it's such an easy mistake to make. This video reminds me that I need to practice this again. Lean, don't spin. It needs to be an instinctual tool so it's there in an emergency like in this video. It's also fascinating to practice because when you start to get it, the bike bobbles and goes straight on the spin but goes where you want it when you lean on the side you want the bike to go. It's an ah-haa moment when you really get that the bike bounces straight despite your turning the bars. Maybe a life-saving one.

  • @jamesozment1
    @jamesozment1 2 года назад

    He didn't preload forks with front break pressure first and hit a slick spot . You can se his front tire wobble just before he crashed.

  • @BlueCollarRay
    @BlueCollarRay 2 года назад +6

    Scared squirrel moment. Gotta commit. Trail braking is a must. If you grab that front brake when your in too deep...you will go straight.

    • @timothywald9079
      @timothywald9079 2 года назад +2

      Stab/grab the front brake doesn't change lean angle - chopping the throttle doesn't change lean angle.
      Not knowing how to slow you bike down mid corner and panicking looks accurate but it's hard to say.

    • @JoshDavis-id9oy
      @JoshDavis-id9oy 2 года назад +1

      I agree. Looked to me like he got on the rear brake and it stood the bike up. Trail braking would’ve kept him leaned into it

    • @mhoeij
      @mhoeij 2 года назад +1

      It'll only go straight if the rider forgets to push the inside handlebar. Many people forget how to steer during panic situations, even after years of riding.

  • @chrisman1985
    @chrisman1985 2 года назад +2

    That corner is deceptive, and he probably lost focus on the road, then froze and target fixated.

  • @CubanRider
    @CubanRider 2 года назад +3

    That deer came out of nowhere!

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      I'm sure someone with editing powers will thing of something 🤣

  • @dionmoore879
    @dionmoore879 2 года назад +3

    target fixation

  • @pcoc8694
    @pcoc8694 3 месяца назад

    Looks like Target fixation. He straightened up and ran right off the road.

  • @MrJimmy1437
    @MrJimmy1437 2 года назад +2

    Another two wheeled truck off the road!

  • @dennisl8602
    @dennisl8602 3 месяца назад

    Looks like somehow the bike got unsettled for whatever reason. And it caused him to react with his handlebars. Maybe he felt a tire slip and caused him to panic.

  • @ourheroeshistory4125
    @ourheroeshistory4125 2 года назад +1

    Maybe it was turning and using only his front brake and down shifting at the same time that could have easily made him lose his steering

  • @VT1300CX
    @VT1300CX 3 месяца назад

    Grabbing the brakes in the middle of a corner will make the bike lift up, causing it to go in a straight line.

  • @danielpaulson8838
    @danielpaulson8838 4 месяца назад

    He made sure his bike didn't have ground clearance for cornering, didn't he?

  • @stixx3969
    @stixx3969 2 месяца назад

    No way....that road is too busy all the time. Looks like a lot more of a pain than anything fun.

  • @stuartosmon9533
    @stuartosmon9533 3 месяца назад

    You go where you look .You gotta hold that line and focus on the road . Definitely target fixation . It can happen just like that . Even an experienced rider can be caught off guard .

  • @jonathandavis8078
    @jonathandavis8078 3 месяца назад

    He got the 1000 mile stare lost concentration

  • @rosewood1
    @rosewood1 3 месяца назад +1

    Bad riding like a lump of lard. Many cruisers wobble around like their in trainer wheels. They barely ride fast enough to counter steer. They don't move their bodies and fail to move the bike. The Dragon has a massive failing. It is not difficult to ride and the surface is good. But it's much too popular and too congested. There are much better rides. We rode the full length of the Grand Ridge in Appalachian Mountains. Very pretty but you can't really exercise the bike. Simply too much traffic. We thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Now NovaScotia has some amazing rides.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  3 месяца назад

      Oohh NovaScotia!? And yes, agreed with what you said. Most times the reason why I'm riding the dragon is to get to my actual destination 😂

  • @macmorgan6685
    @macmorgan6685 8 месяцев назад +2

    Probably over use of rear brake

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  5 месяцев назад

      and it stood it up... maybe that's it.

    • @SpaceFrawg
      @SpaceFrawg 3 месяца назад

      I agree, I don't think he was leaned over far enough to scrape anything... rear brake only. Wouldn't be surprised if he's one of those big Harley riders that never touches the front brake.

  • @vvatc
    @vvatc 3 месяца назад

    He grabbed a handful of brake which makes the bike want to stand up and go straight. Not ideal in the middle of a turn.

  • @wisecampmotorcycles8258
    @wisecampmotorcycles8258 2 года назад +3

    Looks like he fell asleep 😅

  • @tinman9093
    @tinman9093 2 года назад

    He may have scraped his floorboard leaning into the turn and that startled him causing him to straighten up......by then he was headed into the hill and it was too late.

  • @ellobo1326
    @ellobo1326 2 года назад

    I almost learned the hard way on Moonshiner 28 that YOUR BIKE GOES WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING. I took a curve slightly hot, but recoverable. Coincidentally, there was gravel on the outside edge and I fixated on it, all the time knowing I was in danger of overshooting. Guess where I went ? Right off of the roadway where the gravel was. I rode parallel and 4-5 inches from a steel guardrail for about 40 feet and was fortunate to get back onto the pavement. I’m not saying what exactly caused the rider in this video to exit roadway. But I damn sure know what caused me to !

  • @brentneves3602
    @brentneves3602 2 года назад

    Many particular factors at play here: Rear tire shape and size, tire rubber compound, tire pressure, motorcycle's center of gravity, ground clearance, entry speed, counter steering. Then external factors: gravel, tree sap, or oil on road, so many reasons for taking a spill, but 'all in all' the ability to decipher and gain feedback from your machine as you ride is everything, I'm sure there were several warning signs that this rider ignored, before going down

    • @Gurn_Blanston
      @Gurn_Blanston 4 месяца назад

      He doesn't know how to ride.

    • @brentneves3602
      @brentneves3602 4 месяца назад

      @@Gurn_Blanston 😂 lol, simple answer

  • @bobsemp
    @bobsemp 3 месяца назад

    Obvious, he scraped something and then over-reacted by straighting up ... common reaction for riders who don't often experience scraping in the twisties. Glad he was ok, it could have been a lot worse!

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 2 года назад

    Big cruisers are built for straight lines. You can correct mid bend on a lighter bike.

  • @AwosAtis
    @AwosAtis 2 года назад +1

    Another video I have to mute due to music!

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      I'm just happy you had the option to mute it! Thanks for watching 😊

  • @patwalker9890
    @patwalker9890 2 года назад +1

    Wrong line. He turned in too early, couldn't keep the line with the big bike, then when he stood it up to correct he was pointed at the side of the road and fixated on that. Done.

  • @holdernewtshesrearin5471
    @holdernewtshesrearin5471 2 года назад

    Didnt look like he touched down, no sparks at least, but the little wobble once he stood it up would suggest that.
    Most likely he just target fixated if only for a second and once his mind lost the rythm of the road it was all over, exit stage right.
    A little lapse in concentration, or get a little road drunk where your brain loses pace with the road and its a very difficult thing to recover from even at a sedate pace.
    At least he wasnt hurt. Doubt the bike took too much damage either.
    Be careful out there and make it a conscious decision to commit to each and every curve so this doesnt happen.
    You can do so and still take in the scenery etc, but the road has to come FIRST.

  • @TonVerkleijT3
    @TonVerkleijT3 2 года назад

    Locking fixation, only use of the back brake, scared to lean the bike over, abrupt throttle shutdown.

  • @jamcbride225
    @jamcbride225 2 года назад

    I think target fixation was part of the problem but it appears the front it wobbled a bit and as the first person rider goes by you can see some scraped pavement. Perhaps the rider saw that....eyes stuck...off the throttle...boom.

  • @roadscouragesecondchannel
    @roadscouragesecondchannel 2 года назад +1

    Hello bro, may I feature this clip in my next moto video? I will give you full credit in the description :)

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      @roads sorry I missed this!! Thanks for checking man. Of course you can

  • @GeoSae
    @GeoSae 3 месяца назад

    Too fast for the curve? probably the gear was too high? I apply the same rule as trucker when curves: Lowest gear possible, it never fails!

  • @Sully4Real
    @Sully4Real 2 года назад

    That Dragon ain’t no joke if you don’t have much experience on a bike or even if you do have experience you have to ride really easy until you get somewhat familiar with it. If you’ve been riding all day and your body is a Lil tired and still I suggest you try it another day if it’s your first trip up and down “THE DRAGON TAIL”……Easy to lose your focus and let your bike get away from you on it that’s for sure. I’m speaking from experience trust me!

  • @kman-mi7su
    @kman-mi7su 2 года назад

    He didn't look thru the turn and fixated on that hill.

  • @williamfarnsworth9781
    @williamfarnsworth9781 2 года назад

    Scraped on the left side. Panicked. Stood it up and the bike went straight.

  • @msg63bretired82
    @msg63bretired82 5 месяцев назад

    Bars were oscillating-maybe levered the rear tire? Or didn’t know how to countersteer and thought leaning would work. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Gurn_Blanston
      @Gurn_Blanston 4 месяца назад +2

      Failing to counter-steer was only ONE of his problems- he doesn't know how to ride.

    • @msg63bretired82
      @msg63bretired82 4 месяца назад

      @@Gurn_Blanston have to agree. Can’t blame the bike.

  • @elmerfudd1086
    @elmerfudd1086 2 года назад +3

    That rider should never have been riding US129. It looked like either his left bag or exhaust, maybe his running board touched down lightly and it scared him. He straightened the bike up quickly and since he was then looking straight ahead...that's where the bike went. The gap or tail of the dragon can be a lot of fun, but it isn't a road for the less experienced rider. He may have decades of owning a bike but he obviously isn't an accomplished rider. My guess would be he rides less than a thousand miles a year and is more interested in how he looks and sounds than he is in becoming a skilled rider. Not a big deal, just stay away from roads that could get you killed.

    • @timothywald9079
      @timothywald9079 2 года назад +1

      He should ride within his capabilities - clearly stood the bike up maybe from dragging a peg?
      Been watching a bunch of times but still not sure.

  • @JeffN-A
    @JeffN-A 2 года назад

    Brake light came on, straightened him up and off he went

  • @pitbullfan1234
    @pitbullfan1234 2 года назад

    In my opinion he got nervous let off the throttle and that's when you can no longer make the turn especially that early into the curve never brake or slow down too much the bike will stand up and then it's time to crash but I could be wrong

  • @MOTOPSYCHO
    @MOTOPSYCHO 2 года назад +1

    Hey Friend, would it be alright with you if I featured this clip in my next moto compilation? Your channel will get credited for it, Thanks.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      Hi Moto Psycho!! Go for it. Thanks for checking in!! Thanks!

    • @MOTOPSYCHO
      @MOTOPSYCHO 2 года назад +1

      @@rolieats1104 Awesome, Thank you Friend!

  • @demonox3271
    @demonox3271 2 года назад

    This is why, even tho I ride a Harley, I respect all riders no matter what they’re on. Looks like he might’ve scraped a board and second guessed himself

  • @MotoLoot
    @MotoLoot 2 года назад +1

    Hey mate :)
    Would it be alright if we used your clip in a RUclips video we're making and possibly share it on our social media? We will credit you in all the descriptions and the RUclips vid.

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      Hey Moto Loot! Thanks for checking in. Go for it!

    • @MotoLoot
      @MotoLoot 2 года назад

      @@rolieats1104 Thanks!

  • @timnye718
    @timnye718 2 месяца назад

    Too many people get sucked into the trill of these rides. I honestly don't care if I never make it to the Dragon- At 63 I don't need to fulfill my testosterone racer boy dreams. I love the open road and the curves but at my pace and on my terms. No group rides that can push some members past their capabilities.

  • @Jpizzle925
    @Jpizzle925 2 года назад

    looks like he scrapped and then got nervous and fixated on the hillside.

  • @blattimus
    @blattimus 3 месяца назад

    I think the cruiser rider made the mistake of trying to corner on a refrigerator with wheels, passed 30 or so degrees of lean angle and scraped his floorboards.
    Nice easy ride on a normal motorcycle equals impossibly sharp turns and a hard bail for a Harley.

  • @Ifyaonlyknew
    @Ifyaonlyknew 2 года назад +1

    What is the dragon

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  3 месяца назад

      It's a curvy road up in NC/TN, very popular with hundreds of curves.

  • @jacobstallman2590
    @jacobstallman2590 2 года назад +1

    Freaked out mid corner hit the front brake bike stood up and probably target fixation

  • @johnmartin2079
    @johnmartin2079 3 месяца назад

    Must of been a box of doughnuts on that knoll

  • @slowsteve3497
    @slowsteve3497 4 месяца назад

    It’s usually speed or alcohol. Didn’t look like speed here.

  • @billbalyx8799
    @billbalyx8799 4 месяца назад

    he either hit a rock on the road or something else, you can see th bike wiggle and that's not normal, he didn't have "target fixation"

    • @Gurn_Blanston
      @Gurn_Blanston 4 месяца назад

      Wrong. He target fixated, panicked, failed to steer effectively, and ran off the road, because he doesn't know how to ride.

    • @billbalyx8799
      @billbalyx8799 4 месяца назад

      you do not see well, how can you say he doesn't ride well when you don't know him by a 30 second video lol, let me guess you ride a rocket ... maybe he had a heart attack, give your head a shake@@Gurn_Blanston

    • @Gurn_Blanston
      @Gurn_Blanston 4 месяца назад

      @billbalyx8799 Lol. Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area. I don't have ANY of those problems.
      Real riders actually know how to ride. And no one that actually knows how to ride would choose a Harley-Davidson over a more competent motorcycle.
      And real riders wear proper safety gear, not "Village People" costumes.
      I have seen that same pattern countless times. He panicked, target-fixated, stood it up, failed to steer effectively because he doesn't even know how to steer, and ran off the road with ample traction and cornering clearance he could have used.
      The only unique thing about this particular crash, is that he stomped the rear brake AFTER leaving the pavement. Most of the time, they stomp the rear brake while they're still on the pavement, killing the gyroscopic stabilization of the rear wheel by locking it up, leaving a straight black skid mark to the point that they fall down or leave the pavement.
      I can't begin to count the number of times I've been stuck behind buffoons like them on my favorite mountain road, as they wobble through turns, fail to hold their lane position, completely oblivious to the traffic backing up behind them. I'm stuck in first gear, having to slip the clutch as they go through 15 mph corners I can take at 45 mph, but they slow down to a walking pace. I'm sweating my ass off in my leathers because we're not moving, my cooling fan is kicking on because there's no air flow, and they're destroying the peace and quiet on the mountain because they took the mufflers off their Harley-Davidsons.
      I hate to pass against the solid double-yellow, so I generally wait until they wobble to one side of the lane, and then I politely slip past. Inevitably, that stuns them awake from their road coma, and they have something that looks like an epileptic seizure.
      And oncoming is even worse- there's no way to know when I enter a corner, whether I'm going to encounter one of them oncoming in my lane, because they can't steer well enough to stay on their side of the solid double yellow line.
      I used to stop and help them pull their 900-pound two-wheeled whoopee cushions out of the ditch, but I don't do that anymore- now I think they BELONG in the ditch. I have medical training and carry a BOK for major bleeds, so I'll stop to render aid and call the police, but I'm not helping to pull any of those things out of ditches anymore.

  • @shosin2919
    @shosin2919 7 месяцев назад +1

    mustve been the clibbins

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  5 месяцев назад

      Most definitely the clibbins LOL

  • @Doober50569
    @Doober50569 3 месяца назад

    I bet he scraped his foot on the ground and freaked out. which is why he was wobbling before he went up the embankment

  • @TonyNapoli
    @TonyNapoli 2 года назад

    Dresser rider was too busy looking in his mirrors, locking the rear brake target fixating on the ditch...

  • @user-hh9cu2px9g
    @user-hh9cu2px9g 3 месяца назад

    WTF, dude just rode straight off the road .

  • @EM-bp5zv
    @EM-bp5zv 2 года назад +6

    Practice scrapping pegs so you don’t freak when it happens

  • @williamlynnminyard3rd772
    @williamlynnminyard3rd772 2 года назад

    I think a mis-shift a down-shift to be exact. Very sad to see any rider go down ever. Best to him.

  • @jessiehughes9432
    @jessiehughes9432 2 года назад +1

    I remember riding my first motorcycle...but didn't do that! 😆

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад +1

      Thank goodness!!! Neither did I 😅

  • @stevebell4906
    @stevebell4906 3 месяца назад

    The simple and to this and most crashes ....Driving ..(riding)..Too fast and too close together....As any driver after the event and he will admit that just little more time and space would change everything!

  • @DriveReality
    @DriveReality 2 года назад +1

    Hellou my friend, can I feature your clip for my new youtube compilation video? You'll be credited with watermark. Thanks in advance! #RageOnWheels

    • @rolieats1104
      @rolieats1104  2 года назад

      Hello Rage! Thanks for checking in. Go for it!