@@ChengTeoh Nah, OP’s right. This is the route most games are going down. Maybe not specifically werewolves, but nearly every horror game/movie has an overly humanoid “monster” so to speak. Elden Ring is a good thing.
My only complaint with Silas is with his design. While the albinism slightly sets him apart visually I think making significantly more muscular than the other werewolves would have made him fare more intimidating as well as more visually distinct from the others. Imagine these attack scenes but with a Silas 200 pounds heavier and shockingly muscular. That would have, at least in my opinion, made him far more memorable as well as intimidating as a villain.
Tbh I never even felt like he looked any different from other werewolves and was confused why Ryan immediately associated 'white wolf' with the shadowy creature he saw outside of the window one time...
Silas lives in the forest: which means he doesn't eat much and he's also a child / teen. wouldn't have made sense for him to be all bulked up and muscular
Because he was never the "villain" . He was the victim of those self-proclaimed righteous Heckart. There was no curse not until the group of kids thinking they did the right thing unleashed the uncontrollable yet almost unstoppable force of supernatural beings. Eliza was right in all this "they inflicted this curse upon themselves "
@@BkExtremis What...Eliza kept her son trapped in a cage and used him for clout because he was a werewolf and Kaylee wanted to free him because 1. She didn't know he was a werewolf as it was still daytime the time that it happened and 2. She felt bad that a crazy old woman locked her son up in a cage.
@@aidasalazar9702 And that's why I called self- proclaim righteous act. Eliza kept her son trapped in the cage ? It wasn't trapped. She knew her son and his ability better than anyone else in this world. She'd know that her son couldn't have a life like any person in this world. It was a way to keep him alive in the world full of fearful people. Silas lived past his childhood to teenage seemingly no problem at all. Then one day a group of kid thinking they're hero, not even try to find why the boy was in the cage, unleash him from the only way to hold his life together. Freedom huh? Did Silas get that? No, he was hunted and his mother was killed in the accident. 6 years of fear getting killed in every damn full moon by the "heroes" what a ridiculous
I wish we got more of silas, I mean his death was really anti-climatic. It wasnt really a great way to end the game, unlike until dawn which had that final faceoff in the house with standing still and what not. I just feel like Silas could have played a much bigger role in the end
@@slayerofdarknssdmt9697 This is why, if you're serious about telling a good story, you figure out the ending before you even start putting words on the script. Wish the people at supermassive knew this. I was REALLY invested in much of the middle.
Indeed. Until down was in another league. It was way superior to this game in terms of gameplay, casting, graphics and story telling. This game is like a cheap knock off from Until down
@@thefirstsurvivor indirectly she is. If I allow a killer into your house by unlocking and opening the door for him,am I not responsible too for your death? That's basically what she did. Even though I get her hesitation... if some sweet gramgram was pleading in my head not to kill her child I'd be confused for a sec too.
Was anyone else expecting Silas to be an actual white wolf? I was thinking the hacketts and whoever was the next in lineage of werewolf bite was less actual werewolf and like some diseased variation of them
Must have felt so stupid to not shoot the thing that have been proven time and time again will kill you. Like sparing him will do what? Gonna fucking tame it?
I chose to kill him initially, but I am curious: is there any opportunity for him to kill your characters before the end? I cant recall any. Even when he runs Laura and Max off the road, that's all he does. When he infects Caleb, its just a bite from a kid that's been locked in a cage his whole life. When Travis says theres been sightings of him, he doesnt say there were reports of attacks or death. When they *do* mention deaths, its ones they have to cover up to protect the Hackett werewolves. Not hide Silas's existence. When we see werewolf Chris, he escapes chains easily; meanwhile, Silas behaved the entire time he was in that rickety cage he couldve broken out of easily. Him suddenly turning into a crazy killing machine at the end actually seemed OOC to me. I was fully expecting for it to not end there and reveal something else-- instead, it just ended abruptly. Made me feel bad, lmao. I always err on the side of caution, but he *was* just a kid, one that was seemingly severely abused at that. I mean, if he was wreaking havoc everywhere like he did here, the game wouldnt end with authorities blaming the teens or the Hacketts or wild animals; there would be abundant proof of other werewolves and their victims at that point. It just feels super inconsistent to me
I feel like they just wanted to try and create an inner conflict with you (the director) being given clues by Eliza, then having somewhat any sympathy for her tragedy lol. Wasn’t executed great tho imo.
So Silas swiftly and painlessly kills Travis and Laura, but he decides to slowly maul Ryan to death? Wtf Silas that's cold, what did he even do to you lmao
i think they have a thing for ruining the black guy’s faces cause they did the exact same with matt in until dawn💀 the wendigos would not leave that poor man’s face alone, and the werewolves won’t leave ryan’s face alone either
Honestly I thought Silas was going to look much more innocent and non-threatening than the others, almost like a guardian spirit, to really make that final showdown emotionally difficult
It wouldn't make sense to make things too dark so that you couldn't see a thing. I tend to whack up the brightness in all game to the max since uploading to RUclips tends to darken the video.
I feel like this game had a lot of potential. The beginning was super camp-y, the dialogue was funny, and everything was set up in a way that made you really want to figure out what was going on-- and then the second half just fell so hard. The dialogue was so forced all the time (Laura and Ryan bantering in the quarry was especially cringy, doubly so when Laura has a boyfriend and they're supposed to hate each other since Laura wants to kill Chris at any cost) and they didnt really put any effort into tying up loose ends. Silas couldve been a much bigger deal. First in terms of gameplay by making the final showdown an actual showdown and giving him more noticeable traits. Second by giving him an actual backstory. When I saw him huddled up in his cage, ignoring the people behind him and not having seen him actually kill anyone yet, it started to make me curious and sympathetic. All we knew about him up until this point was that he was a boy who was abused and exploited by his mother for his appearance-- to the point he was referred to as "feral". Its pretty damn hard to raise a feral child among humans. Not to mention that at the end, nothing of his dead body resembled a wolf! He just had long limbs I guess? Even when they mention his escape after Kaylee and Caleb freed him, they only said he bit Caleb, which isnt that unreasonable if he wasnt even raised like a human. There was no talk of werewolves actually attacking and killing people; not until the Hacketts turned. I mean, we saw how easily Chris ripped through his chains in wolf form, and yet we're meant to believe that Silas was equally as violent and strong and yet was able to be contained in a cage by his elderly mother that whole time?? There was no talk about him leaving carnage in his wake when he left either, just that there were sightings. Nothing about his appearance or established behavior said that he was a threat, and it didnt really make sense for him to be the source of the curse unless they established that something was going on with Eliza. For him to suddenly pop up at the end and kill everyone in a flash just felt lazy and forced imo. We got so much lore in Until Dawn about the origin of the wendigos and it was followed up so well with the police interviews and the Easter egg of Josh turning in the mines. I dont see why they couldnt have put a bit more effort into this-- Travis was constantly building up tension with "it's not that simple" and "you think this is the end?" only for it to genuinely end so simply and anti-climactic. Eliza herself couldve been a much bigger threat too; if she saw you sympathizing with the Hacketts, it wouldve made sense if she became proactive in sabotaging you instead of just vague ghost cries in the bg.
I feel like a lot the trouble comes down to development issues. The rumor is that this was originally supposed to be a stadia exclusive... But with Google shutting down Stadia Games & Entertainment. It left the developers scrambling to either dump the project or take what they have, and find a new publisher. What we got is probably vastly different from what the developers originally planned While Until Dawn also had troubled development. Sony is a fantastic publisher, and knows how to bring the best out of their partners. Until Supermassive teams up a with a good publisher. Until dawn will continue to be their best game.
@@tyrcipher8811 if that's the case, that's a real shame, I had no idea. Under ideal circumstances, I think this definitely could have surpassed Until Dawn. Heres hoping they get it all figured out
About the cage of Silas, i believe his mother know a thing or two about werewolves, nothing in the game suggest otherwise, also i think it's possible the bars been made of silver, tbh the rest of it still wooden and pretty fragile.
I find it baffling how they managed to make the game mechanics worse than their previous titles. QTE is so easy and boring in this game. Dialogue choices consists of: be good/honest vs be evil/dishonest or pick/give the gun. That's it. Also no character's charts to at least tell us who is close to who. They all looked like acquaintances rather than good friends. It does not even make sense they ended up together in a camp since they had nothing in common with each other. Until Dawn is still the favorite imo.
So there is actually quite a bit of Silas Content in the end. I had the first scenario...you never get a good view of him there. But in the others he is all up in your face.
I love the the whole werewolf lore of the game, but I am super sad that you can't 'just hunt the white wolf' to cure everybody else? In my first run I thought 'okay, let's not kill Chris, let him live, kill the alpha wolf and everyone is cured' YA NO. you don't even get to Silas anymore because Travis and Ryan just die when you don't kill Chris :'D
@@willholt9461 exactly the same for me! I got confused when Ryan held up the shotgun and though it was Laura and then everyone in the room died including Laura and Travis 🤣
Exactly, I don’t really like the fact that no matter what the Hacketts turn on you. Would’ve been cooler to have a path where you and the Hacketts team up and track down the white wolf and have a final boss fight
Technically Travis and Chris can both survive- though Laura and Ryan won't. When you have the option to shoot Chris, you can actually look over to Travis and Laura's scuffle and shoot Laura. Laura dies and Chris still mauls Ryan but Travis manages to slip away with his life.
Lmao when he called me a stupid girl I decided not to shoot him out of spite. And then Laura shot Travis💀💀 i thought the wolf would wake up and attack but I guess that worked too. 😂
@@kaylebloveshorror2295 lmaooo nah bc he already had me fucked up by locking us up like that and his family being annoying. He was the last Hackett living so I said meh why not kill you too. And I ended up getting a trophy for killing all of them 😂
If The Quarry was an actual movie, the last option would be the most poetic. Depending on the fate of the other counselors, killing Silas with your last breath is a pyrrhic victory. When I first played this part, I expected a huge showdown with everyone splitting up and you having to chose between wasting your shots at rustling bushes, not knowing if it's Silas or a friendly. In a way I'm happy it wasn't that horrifying, but shooting that roadkill in his crib felt kind of too easy 😅
It started with a car crash and ended with a car crash. Makes sense to me and the perfect ending. Laura and Silas taking each other out. Caleb and Kaitlyn only ones to survive. Caleb being blamed for the murders
It's annoying how *failing* the gun qte with Travis is the exact same as *succeeding* the gun qte with Constance: the gun goes off and kills them accidentally
Honestly speaking, I don't see any problem with Silas' design. Those red eyes and the albinism really gets to me, and it also looks like he is larger than the other werewolves. But MAN was the ending such a letdown, I knew from the beginning that this game won't be as good as until dawn and it actually turned out better than what I expected, but that Ending was such a weak point.
This ending was just pitiful imo. With Until Dawn it was a race against two super monsters, time, and your own body. Having to find a way to get everyone who was still alive out of the house, while also being put in more danger. Then your reward at the end was watching the beasts who brutalized your friends and allies get blown to hell at the flick of a light switch. But The Quarry, you see Silas a handful of times, but hear his name more. Then once the time to kill him finally comes, that "light switch" moment is two button presses, then the big bad wolf, the enemy of my enemy is just gone. Role credits game over. And don't get me started on the podcast segment.
Also, there's another one where you shoot Travis when he falls to the ground after saying he should've shot you when he had the chance. Almost the same as the misfire I guess.
she got mad at me because i chose to raise my gun in the showdown then she said "I KNOW WHAT YOU TRIED TO DO" like you think i somehow made a mistake of shooting a still shot in his crib??
I’m still sad that there was no hierarchy among the wolves. Like Silas should have been the Alpha, and all big and beefy/ intimidating as he was the first werewolf
@@rachelstec7977 wolf pack dynamics dont work like that. The 'alphas' are the parents, they're not really special. However, for a video game, I agree he shouldve been different enough that we can recognize him from the get-go. Hearing him called the white wolf and hearing Ryan say he saw him was confusing to me because he didnt look different from the rest at all every time I saw him. I'm only finally seeing the differences in this video where you have to let him shine to the other character's detriment, lmao
@@floperez355 Because it was stated in the whole game that Silas was the "white wolf"? Even Ryan said "oh I saw the white wolf" after they talk about him. And everybody made a big deal about him like not being able to catch or find him for 6 years or something. The game made he seem like somebody special from the others.
ive never seen the second ending before- thats so interesting! im guessing now that laura's hesitation wasnt of her own will and was maybe Eliza getting into her head. interesting how discreet things like failed QTE's can lead to totally different outcomes.
man suppermassive games just had something against ryan, everyone usually gets ripped apart or head torn off or something basic like a fatality, but RYAN, man, that jaw drop makes me hurt...
i agree with some of the complaints Silas deffo should have been a burly white fur'd werewolf. they built him up so well and then he ends up just being another of the same we had been seeing.
It actually leads to the first scenario in the video. I cut out that part since I didn't think it was too necessary ( but now that I think about it maybe there are some people who didn't see the part where Travis runs over Silas if you do all the QTEs right ) to showcase the showdown between Travis, Ryan & Laura against Silas.
At this point I don’t think Ryan is human I mean nor got his whole jaw ripped off and is alive and when you shoot lauara when your supposed to shoot Chris as Ryan Chris still bashes the shotgun in Ryan’s face but he is still alive for like 2 seconds you know that cause you he hear like screaming and like gulping WHEN HIS MOUTH IS LITERALLY GONE
in my first playthrough, I thought if I didn't shoot Silas, I would unlock some sort of secret ending but no... I only got Travis, Ryan and Laura killed, which pissed me off so much lol
Question when Laura refuses to kill Silas and giving the whole "he's just a boy" stuff does that have to do with his mother effecting her or something? I get that it's a decision you can make but even then it feels out of character for her considering depending on how u play u can literally wipe out the whole Hackett family and she felt little remorse doing that. I feel like it would have made more sense if she had hesitated and then Silas noticed them, that would have for one made it an actual show down and two a tad more explanation because idk didn't entirely feel like the kinda move she would play yk.
@@kibhoshi search up The Quarry major endings, should be able to find someone who includes the after cut scenes. The only person in the whole series face that you can't see, unless you find the picture is Kaylee Hacketts
i think its meant to be up to interpretation, I like to think she cursed him to become one at the time of the fire when she died to get revenge on the Hackett’s
@@tarableday That makes no sense, because Silas was the one that bit and infected Caleb before the fire. So, Silas must've been a werewolf long before all of this.
I know this guy is supposed to ultimate strong werewolf or some shit but do some of the deaths by him seem half assed in animation or should I just take it as him being strong and fast? Scary either way lol
The problem with Silas is that the game treats his “showdown” as a big moral decision but we aren’t given any reason why we should feel sympathy for the guy, like literally the whole night he has been killing and terrorising the councillors who we actually have a connection to
He didn't kill anyone though, only bit Caleb on accident 6 years before the game started. Also if you found a certain tarot card it shows part of his backstory and him being tortured. Also the fact he was curled up crying for whatever reason and not responding to the characters speaking even though the creatures are known to have strong hearing made him seem different. But nope, just lazy writing
You need to find all the evidence and clues collectibles to get that message on the computer screen at the end. A bit of a let down for all the work getting them all. Would have loved like an interview like they did with Until Dawn at the end of the game with the two podcasters in person.
Is just me or is anyone else disapointed with the werewolf design?i mean, it looks just like a bit changed wendigo from until dawn.. Monster is cool and all but seemed a bit lazy....
Silas was so disappointing. I expected some QTE chase and some intense things going on maybe with the hag girl trying to distract you by appearing and scaring you or something. On top of that Silas looked almost identical to the other wolves but he was white, which was very hard to see judging how he was covered in blood and the shading made him look about the same color. I thought he would have been a big wolf, with white long fur, menacing eyes, or just a distinct look that differed him from the others. it would make sense why the other wolves looked more humanoid because they weren't originally cursed to make them an actual "wolf"
5:31 Uh, what is this? The blood doesn't protect you from the werewolves lmao. It only masks your scent so you can more easily hide from them. Jacob was blooded, but was still chased and killed if werewolves physically saw him. Silas literally wouldn't spare Laura just because of the blood on her face, that doesn't work that way. Did they forget how their own plot devices work lmao
Am I the only dude who hates how Silas, instead of being a werewolf with white fur who is titled the white wolf, just has slightly white albino skin? Scratch that none of the werewolves look like werewolves, they look like mutated goblins
Travis: "he's responsible for so much death!" Laura: "says you!" GIRL. 20 minutes ago you killed his parents and niece. You're the last person who should call him out on being murderer lmao. The same this happened in the car.
I would love to have this....Infection, I suppose? You would potentially be unkillable, and have an outrageous healing factor with pretty decent strength just in base. If you were literally alone in life, you could use this infection to cause some damage and unless someone knew about the silver, nobody could stop you.
yea, until you start loving people and then kill the people you love. the benefits on the physical health side are amazing, but i don’t think your mental health would benefit from it.
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I'm shocked there's not a ending where you cure Silas and everyone and I mean everyone can survive
Problem is he’s the alpha werewolf, there’s no curing him
would be nice but consequences are what made this game good
@@RemittentDig17 and it was his mom's magics that made h this
For a really long time I assumed Eliza would lift the curse if you just do what she wants you to (like kill all Hackett's)
@@fentina that's what the cards for.. You have to be wise to choose options
Man, Silas was such a let down. I thought Silas was going to be a full on white werewolf with fur, massive build, and look super intimidating.
You've been playing too much Elden Ring. 🤣
Too many RPGs.
I thought the same and it would have made more sense.
@@ChengTeoh Nah, OP’s right. This is the route most games are going down. Maybe not specifically werewolves, but nearly every horror game/movie has an overly humanoid “monster” so to speak. Elden Ring is a good thing.
So you expected a traditional white werewolf?
My only complaint with Silas is with his design. While the albinism slightly sets him apart visually I think making significantly more muscular than the other werewolves would have made him fare more intimidating as well as more visually distinct from the others. Imagine these attack scenes but with a Silas 200 pounds heavier and shockingly muscular. That would have, at least in my opinion, made him far more memorable as well as intimidating as a villain.
Tbh I never even felt like he looked any different from other werewolves and was confused why Ryan immediately associated 'white wolf' with the shadowy creature he saw outside of the window one time...
Silas lives in the forest: which means he doesn't eat much and he's also a child / teen. wouldn't have made sense for him to be all bulked up and muscular
Because he was never the "villain" . He was the victim of those self-proclaimed righteous Heckart. There was no curse not until the group of kids thinking they did the right thing unleashed the uncontrollable yet almost unstoppable force of supernatural beings. Eliza was right in all this "they inflicted this curse upon themselves "
@@BkExtremis What...Eliza kept her son trapped in a cage and used him for clout because he was a werewolf and Kaylee wanted to free him because 1. She didn't know he was a werewolf as it was still daytime the time that it happened and 2. She felt bad that a crazy old woman locked her son up in a cage.
@@aidasalazar9702 And that's why I called self- proclaim righteous act. Eliza kept her son trapped in the cage ? It wasn't trapped. She knew her son and his ability better than anyone else in this world. She'd know that her son couldn't have a life like any person in this world. It was a way to keep him alive in the world full of fearful people. Silas lived past his childhood to teenage seemingly no problem at all. Then one day a group of kid thinking they're hero, not even try to find why the boy was in the cage, unleash him from the only way to hold his life together. Freedom huh? Did Silas get that? No, he was hunted and his mother was killed in the accident. 6 years of fear getting killed in every damn full moon by the "heroes" what a ridiculous
Caleb was way more menacing than silas imo gameplay wise
@gamerbot 100 Emma moves
Caleb is way harder to deal with and his final confrontation is a lot more climatic than Silas’ one
Absolutely for silas you just have to not be an idiot and realize that steering the car is priority and if you dont kill him he will kill you.
Caleb was mi favorite werewolf,because how many times he was in the game and was very important to the game
I been saying that but people disagree with me
I wish we got more of silas, I mean his death was really anti-climatic. It wasnt really a great way to end the game, unlike until dawn which had that final faceoff in the house with standing still and what not. I just feel like Silas could have played a much bigger role in the end
I think they just ran out of development time and had to push the game out on the due date I'm sure they'd put another chapter or 2 in there
he went on a rampage bro, you saw how he devastatedly killed all those 3, the only way to kill silas is a sneak shot
@@slayerofdarknssdmt9697 This is why, if you're serious about telling a good story, you figure out the ending before you even start putting words on the script. Wish the people at supermassive knew this. I was REALLY invested in much of the middle.
Indeed. Until down was in another league. It was way superior to this game in terms of gameplay, casting, graphics and story telling. This game is like a cheap knock off from Until down
Everything was good about this game until the ending
Laura sitting there shocked while she got two people killed will always be funny to me
Especially after pointing the gun at Silas for 20 seconds not doing anything
at least she's not a murderer best ending imo
@@thefirstsurvivor indirectly she is. If I allow a killer into your house by unlocking and opening the door for him,am I not responsible too for your death? That's basically what she did. Even though I get her hesitation... if some sweet gramgram was pleading in my head not to kill her child I'd be confused for a sec too.
@@jos-josradvanji6203 yeah i was being sarcastic
@@jos-josradvanji6203 sweet is not the term i would use to describe eliza
Was anyone else expecting Silas to be an actual white wolf? I was thinking the hacketts and whoever was the next in lineage of werewolf bite was less actual werewolf and like some diseased variation of them
I literally thought he was going to be white and fluffy lol
@@Hippyhop888 he should’ve been
This would have been a great explanation for the differences between Silas and the other werewolves.
@@kadenstierg5803 they missed this 💀
That's more like it
Must have felt so stupid to not shoot the thing that have been proven time and time again will kill you. Like sparing him will do what? Gonna fucking tame it?
Fr ppl who chose that choice pissed me off
I chose to kill him initially, but I am curious: is there any opportunity for him to kill your characters before the end? I cant recall any. Even when he runs Laura and Max off the road, that's all he does. When he infects Caleb, its just a bite from a kid that's been locked in a cage his whole life. When Travis says theres been sightings of him, he doesnt say there were reports of attacks or death. When they *do* mention deaths, its ones they have to cover up to protect the Hackett werewolves. Not hide Silas's existence. When we see werewolf Chris, he escapes chains easily; meanwhile, Silas behaved the entire time he was in that rickety cage he couldve broken out of easily. Him suddenly turning into a crazy killing machine at the end actually seemed OOC to me. I was fully expecting for it to not end there and reveal something else-- instead, it just ended abruptly. Made me feel bad, lmao. I always err on the side of caution, but he *was* just a kid, one that was seemingly severely abused at that. I mean, if he was wreaking havoc everywhere like he did here, the game wouldnt end with authorities blaming the teens or the Hacketts or wild animals; there would be abundant proof of other werewolves and their victims at that point. It just feels super inconsistent to me
I feel like they just wanted to try and create an inner conflict with you (the director) being given clues by Eliza, then having somewhat any sympathy for her tragedy lol. Wasn’t executed great tho imo.
its called selfishness and self centered
It's a white people thing. You know how they treat dogs better than other humans.
So Silas swiftly and painlessly kills Travis and Laura, but he decides to slowly maul Ryan to death? Wtf Silas that's cold, what did he even do to you lmao
he was listening podcast
😂😂😂😂
Silas is racist 😂
@@MrsMajki true, he was probably a hater, sick of hearing hag of hacketts quarry
Silas was racist
2:29 "Showdown with the white wolf" There wasn't much of a showdown. Laura basically did all the work there lol X)
theres no really showdown. Laura have an easy time too killing silas, i mean that wolf boy is crying and sulking
@@user-md2jd8bm8r My thoughts too haha
I think the showdown would also count the car part of the fight
@@user-md2jd8bm8r nah he's Injured there from the car crash
@@idk-ft6tl so he’s been laying there for 2 months curled up ?
Supermassive games really upped the gore factor for this one, but Ryan’s deaths are by far the most gruesome
Fr bro they stay doing ryan dirty
I KNOWWW 😭 my poor boy- what did he do to the game developers??
But the graphics make this choses aestetic look bad.
i think they have a thing for ruining the black guy’s faces cause they did the exact same with matt in until dawn💀 the wendigos would not leave that poor man’s face alone, and the werewolves won’t leave ryan’s face alone either
@@until.davis. Thats what I am saying 😒
Honestly I thought Silas was going to look much more innocent and non-threatening than the others, almost like a guardian spirit, to really make that final showdown emotionally difficult
But it really isnt. Any sane person understand that if you dont kill him he will kill you.
Thank you for actually increasing your brightness so we can see the werewolves better
It wouldn't make sense to make things too dark so that you couldn't see a thing. I tend to whack up the brightness in all game to the max since uploading to RUclips tends to darken the video.
@@ChengTeoh yeah it might be cheating but I always turn the brightness almost all the way up in horror games. I like to see the monsters in detail
@@Ayyprattbrat Ditto. There's no point in a game if you can't see any of it. 😂
For real the default brightness in this game is TOO DAMN DARK I couldn’t see a goddamn thing lol
I feel like this game had a lot of potential. The beginning was super camp-y, the dialogue was funny, and everything was set up in a way that made you really want to figure out what was going on-- and then the second half just fell so hard. The dialogue was so forced all the time (Laura and Ryan bantering in the quarry was especially cringy, doubly so when Laura has a boyfriend and they're supposed to hate each other since Laura wants to kill Chris at any cost) and they didnt really put any effort into tying up loose ends.
Silas couldve been a much bigger deal. First in terms of gameplay by making the final showdown an actual showdown and giving him more noticeable traits. Second by giving him an actual backstory. When I saw him huddled up in his cage, ignoring the people behind him and not having seen him actually kill anyone yet, it started to make me curious and sympathetic.
All we knew about him up until this point was that he was a boy who was abused and exploited by his mother for his appearance-- to the point he was referred to as "feral". Its pretty damn hard to raise a feral child among humans. Not to mention that at the end, nothing of his dead body resembled a wolf! He just had long limbs I guess? Even when they mention his escape after Kaylee and Caleb freed him, they only said he bit Caleb, which isnt that unreasonable if he wasnt even raised like a human. There was no talk of werewolves actually attacking and killing people; not until the Hacketts turned.
I mean, we saw how easily Chris ripped through his chains in wolf form, and yet we're meant to believe that Silas was equally as violent and strong and yet was able to be contained in a cage by his elderly mother that whole time?? There was no talk about him leaving carnage in his wake when he left either, just that there were sightings. Nothing about his appearance or established behavior said that he was a threat, and it didnt really make sense for him to be the source of the curse unless they established that something was going on with Eliza.
For him to suddenly pop up at the end and kill everyone in a flash just felt lazy and forced imo. We got so much lore in Until Dawn about the origin of the wendigos and it was followed up so well with the police interviews and the Easter egg of Josh turning in the mines. I dont see why they couldnt have put a bit more effort into this-- Travis was constantly building up tension with "it's not that simple" and "you think this is the end?" only for it to genuinely end so simply and anti-climactic. Eliza herself couldve been a much bigger threat too; if she saw you sympathizing with the Hacketts, it wouldve made sense if she became proactive in sabotaging you instead of just vague ghost cries in the bg.
I feel like a lot the trouble comes down to development issues. The rumor is that this was originally supposed to be a stadia exclusive... But with Google shutting down Stadia Games & Entertainment. It left the developers scrambling to either dump the project or take what they have, and find a new publisher. What we got is probably vastly different from what the developers originally planned
While Until Dawn also had troubled development. Sony is a fantastic publisher, and knows how to bring the best out of their partners.
Until Supermassive teams up a with a good publisher. Until dawn will continue to be their best game.
@@tyrcipher8811 if that's the case, that's a real shame, I had no idea. Under ideal circumstances, I think this definitely could have surpassed Until Dawn. Heres hoping they get it all figured out
About the cage of Silas, i believe his mother know a thing or two about werewolves, nothing in the game suggest otherwise, also i think it's possible the bars been made of silver, tbh the rest of it still wooden and pretty fragile.
Agree
I find it baffling how they managed to make the game mechanics worse than their previous titles. QTE is so easy and boring in this game. Dialogue choices consists of: be good/honest vs be evil/dishonest or pick/give the gun. That's it. Also no character's charts to at least tell us who is close to who. They all looked like acquaintances rather than good friends. It does not even make sense they ended up together in a camp since they had nothing in common with each other.
Until Dawn is still the favorite imo.
I thought it was "kill Silas and survive" or "spare him and die" but this is super fascinating I'm excited to see how far I can take this game
4:53 I love how Ryan jumps in front of Laura to save her and she has no reaction to his death whatsoever
I was looking for this comment lmao
I like how if laura doesn’t shoot but takes the blood she just watches as Ryan gets decimated
😭😭😭😭😭😭Ryann
How do you get the blood?
@@FrankieTeardrop1998 Shoot Bobby as Ryan while he's dragging Nick away.
@@tonytan5945 Thanks
pasifist in action
Man I get so sad when Ryan dies he always gets the worst deaths and he’s also my favorite character
I care about Ryan a lot man seeing him die hurts a lot I want him succeed in life 😭
I hate a love hate for him and his deaths hurt the most
What heresy is this. Everyone knows Dylan is best.
is it just me or do the werewolves here kind of look like more muscular versions of the wendigos from until dawn
Yeah, both are extremely humanoid so I guess that's most of the resemblance
Yeah, they're just wendigos but with a small snout and digitigrade legs.
So there is actually quite a bit of Silas Content in the end. I had the first scenario...you never get a good view of him there. But in the others he is all up in your face.
Sadly you dont get an up close look at his human form.
seeing ryan get in front of laura to protect her makes me so sad omf
I love the the whole werewolf lore of the game, but I am super sad that you can't 'just hunt the white wolf' to cure everybody else?
In my first run I thought 'okay, let's not kill Chris, let him live, kill the alpha wolf and everyone is cured'
YA NO.
you don't even get to Silas anymore because Travis and Ryan just die when you don't kill Chris :'D
Bra I thought Chris was Laura so I didn’t shoot and got one of the worse endings 😭🤦🏽♂️
@@willholt9461 exactly the same for me! I got confused when Ryan held up the shotgun and though it was Laura and then everyone in the room died including Laura and Travis 🤣
Exactly, I don’t really like the fact that no matter what the Hacketts turn on you. Would’ve been cooler to have a path where you and the Hacketts team up and track down the white wolf and have a final boss fight
@@boardiesboi I had the most shocking facial expression when that happened like I killed 4 people on one action 😭
Technically Travis and Chris can both survive- though Laura and Ryan won't. When you have the option to shoot Chris, you can actually look over to Travis and Laura's scuffle and shoot Laura. Laura dies and Chris still mauls Ryan but Travis manages to slip away with his life.
Lmao when he called me a stupid girl I decided not to shoot him out of spite. And then Laura shot Travis💀💀 i thought the wolf would wake up and attack but I guess that worked too. 😂
fuck, the actors are some elite shit let me tell you
LMFAOO NOT YOUR PRIDE GETTING THE BEST OF YOU1
@@kaylebloveshorror2295 lmaooo nah bc he already had me fucked up by locking us up like that and his family being annoying. He was the last Hackett living so I said meh why not kill you too. And I ended up getting a trophy for killing all of them 😂
To be fair she was being stupid for not shooting
@@kaylebloveshorror2295 LMFAOOO NOT YOU USING AN OVERUSED JOKE AND THINKING IT'S FUNNY!
Silas gives Travis and Laura quick deaths but gives Ryan a painful maul… That’s gotta be racist
His name is the "WHITE" wolf
@@littletimmysaltaccount4879 lmao
When Laura was crawling out of the car why was she screaming
@@fergalicious_ Probably broken bones.
If The Quarry was an actual movie, the last option would be the most poetic. Depending on the fate of the other counselors, killing Silas with your last breath is a pyrrhic victory. When I first played this part, I expected a huge showdown with everyone splitting up and you having to chose between wasting your shots at rustling bushes, not knowing if it's Silas or a friendly. In a way I'm happy it wasn't that horrifying, but shooting that roadkill in his crib felt kind of too easy 😅
It started with a car crash and ended with a car crash. Makes sense to me and the perfect ending. Laura and Silas taking each other out. Caleb and Kaitlyn only ones to survive. Caleb being blamed for the murders
It's annoying how *failing* the gun qte with Travis is the exact same as *succeeding* the gun qte with Constance: the gun goes off and kills them accidentally
Honestly speaking, I don't see any problem with Silas' design. Those red eyes and the albinism really gets to me, and it also looks like he is larger than the other werewolves.
But MAN was the ending such a letdown, I knew from the beginning that this game won't be as good as until dawn and it actually turned out better than what I expected, but that Ending was such a weak point.
Fr we at least needed better evidence involvement and more choices with Silas like we don’t even need visual changes just spice it up
I will admit Travis took that shot like a fucking boss
I respect the game so much more after seeing all the options!
This ending was just pitiful imo. With Until Dawn it was a race against two super monsters, time, and your own body. Having to find a way to get everyone who was still alive out of the house, while also being put in more danger. Then your reward at the end was watching the beasts who brutalized your friends and allies get blown to hell at the flick of a light switch. But The Quarry, you see Silas a handful of times, but hear his name more. Then once the time to kill him finally comes, that "light switch" moment is two button presses, then the big bad wolf, the enemy of my enemy is just gone. Role credits game over. And don't get me started on the podcast segment.
It would be been cool if Silas was actually a hairy werewolf.
Thank you! Other videos I've watched have been dark as hell, I couldn't see anything going on
It's probably to prevent the algo from catching all the gore 😂
@@ChengTeoh I mean, the gore is glorious 😂 haven't seen gore in a game that good in a while
@@insanityvex6983 this makes me wonder how much gorier it gets if you turn on the "Gorefest" mode.
@@ChengTeoh ooo I really want to see that, im a sucker for that kind of stuff
@@ChengTeoh do you need deluxe edition for gorefest mode
Also, there's another one where you shoot Travis when he falls to the ground after saying he should've shot you when he had the chance. Almost the same as the misfire I guess.
yes I am aware ... shooting him doesn't really result in anything interesting. leaving him to silas was more interesting.
@@ChengTeohThen don't do clickbait by pretending it's all the choices you freaking liar.
Ryan’s death gotta be the most gruesome
The fact Eliza gets mad when he doesn’t die really upsets me how you mad because I let him live isn’t that what you wanted
Facts lol
Because she's EVIL, she TRICKED you is what this implies. Its like a bully telling you you're friends before taking all your money by asking for it.
Isn't it because you left at least 1 Hackett alive? She wants them all dead
she got mad at me because i chose to raise my gun in the showdown then she said "I KNOW WHAT YOU TRIED TO DO" like you think i somehow made a mistake of shooting a still shot in his crib??
She always gets mad when you even get close to silas. The only way to satisfy her is kill all the hacketts and never go after silas
I’m still sad that there was no hierarchy among the wolves. Like Silas should have been the Alpha, and all big and beefy/ intimidating as he was the first werewolf
I don’t get why you think that being the first werewolf should make him any different than the others
@@floperez355 I don’t. I think being the alpha should make him distinguishable (not different) from the others
@@rachelstec7977 wolf pack dynamics dont work like that. The 'alphas' are the parents, they're not really special. However, for a video game, I agree he shouldve been different enough that we can recognize him from the get-go. Hearing him called the white wolf and hearing Ryan say he saw him was confusing to me because he didnt look different from the rest at all every time I saw him. I'm only finally seeing the differences in this video where you have to let him shine to the other character's detriment, lmao
@@floperez355 Because it was stated in the whole game that Silas was the "white wolf"? Even Ryan said "oh I saw the white wolf" after they talk about him.
And everybody made a big deal about him like not being able to catch or find him for 6 years or something. The game made he seem like somebody special from the others.
@@SuperAvocadooI think he carries the most “werewolf” like features and the further down the line you go they start to lose them
6:55 I think this was the dumbest move from all of this path , it got everyone killed by the Werewolf 😆💀
The way Silas just slaps their head off lmao
Poor ryan, he was my favorite character and his jaw got disembodied along with his life
Everything in this game is shinny. Skin, shirts, paper. The light penetrates nothing and it puts it in solid uncanny valley territory.
I'm not sure if getting your jaw ripped out and then gagging as your intestines are ripped and eaten is considered "an instant"
Finally a video of this game where i can actually see something
even the podcast ending changes- thats so cool! i wonder how many podcast variations there are. so far, ive seen 3
Goodness Ryan's death was horrifying
He should’ve healed
ive never seen the second ending before- thats so interesting! im guessing now that laura's hesitation wasnt of her own will and was maybe Eliza getting into her head. interesting how discreet things like failed QTE's can lead to totally different outcomes.
man suppermassive games just had something against ryan, everyone usually gets ripped apart or head torn off or something basic like a fatality, but RYAN, man, that jaw drop makes me hurt...
i agree with some of the complaints Silas deffo should have been a burly white fur'd werewolf. they built him up so well and then he ends up just being another of the same we had been seeing.
I don’t want to know how much pain Ryan went through after his entire jaw got clawed off as he can somehow still scream and is alive 0_0
These werewolves are as if professor Lupin had kids.
7:17 that close up is scaryyy
The ending where everyone dies is so gnarly no one knows about the werewolf running free in the world now
How did you get your brightness setting so on-point? It looks amazing
maxed out the brightness in the game settings. had a couple of people thanking me for making videos that aren't too dark 😂
@@ChengTeoh yea the game is already dark and youtube naturally darkens videos and people seem to overlook that when uploading this
OMG. So many options! ❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥Thank you
I wonder how much more gruesome some of those scenes would be if you turned on the "Gorefest" mode.
There are 186 endings after all
Wow, had no idea. What happens though if Laura does the QTE in the car? I assume that would prevent Travis from getting his head ripped off?
It actually leads to the first scenario in the video. I cut out that part since I didn't think it was too necessary ( but now that I think about it maybe there are some people who didn't see the part where Travis runs over Silas if you do all the QTEs right ) to showcase the showdown between Travis, Ryan & Laura against Silas.
@@ChengTeoh Gotcha, thanks!
Ryan’s Jaw has left the chat
At this point I don’t think Ryan is human I mean nor got his whole jaw ripped off and is alive and when you shoot lauara when your supposed to shoot Chris as Ryan Chris still bashes the shotgun in Ryan’s face but he is still alive for like 2 seconds you know that cause you he hear like screaming and like gulping WHEN HIS MOUTH IS LITERALLY GONE
in my first playthrough, I thought if I didn't shoot Silas, I would unlock some sort of secret ending but no... I only got Travis, Ryan and Laura killed, which pissed me off so much lol
Same thing happened to me, thought for sure it wouldn't be that simple but yep, it was
Truly blame yourself😂
Question when Laura refuses to kill Silas and giving the whole "he's just a boy" stuff does that have to do with his mother effecting her or something? I get that it's a decision you can make but even then it feels out of character for her considering depending on how u play u can literally wipe out the whole Hackett family and she felt little remorse doing that. I feel like it would have made more sense if she had hesitated and then Silas noticed them, that would have for one made it an actual show down and two a tad more explanation because idk didn't entirely feel like the kinda move she would play yk.
why this video brighter than other videos i watched 😅
Probably to avoid the showing too much blood? I'm fully expecting this video to get aged soon.
Silas really likes to take heads clean off, damn
so they never show you human Silas alive if he survives huh
you can see him quickly hiding behind trees if he survives but that's all :/
@@sempiternels where pls
@@kibhoshi search up The Quarry major endings, should be able to find someone who includes the after cut scenes. The only person in the whole series face that you can't see, unless you find the picture is Kaylee Hacketts
@@MrSosadaniel01 thank you so so much!!❤️❤️❤️
Can't these damn wolves finish their damn meals?
Those last few are sure gonna put some questions to the cops
I'm just wondering how he came to be a werewolf in the first place, was he born like that? Or what? Very Interesting
If I’m correct Eliza cursed Silas and he became a werewolf
eliza was prolly messing around with black magic and ended up cursing her son on accident
i think its meant to be up to interpretation, I like to think she cursed him to become one at the time of the fire when she died to get revenge on the Hackett’s
@@tarableday That makes no sense, because Silas was the one that bit and infected Caleb before the fire.
So, Silas must've been a werewolf long before all of this.
Isa Solórzano No the fire is what allowed him to escape, he bit him soon after he escaped the cage and fire
Cool video! It's great to see more Silas scenes and outcomes :)
Why did Silas suddenly become easy to find that month? If Travis and the Hackett had been looking for six years, what made this month so special?
the power of annoying teenagers made silas come out and want to shut them up
He must have came back to his nest 2 months ago when Max and Laura got ran off the road
Seeing the characters faces is like watching animatronic. Sometimes the animation worked, some other times it's just...😂 Maybe it's just me.
Silas wants Ryan to fight him so bad
Poor Travis keeps loosing his head
10:09 Holy shiiit 🔥😳
It's like one of those Mortal Kombat finishing moves 😂
honestly imo Silas is the least scary looking werewolf of them all...
Wow, my RUclips recommendations just spoiled a big part of the game... Thank you RUclips lol
I have tried watching this on a few other channels and it was way to dark so thank for you for making this viewable (if thats even a word lol)
Not a problem. I absolutely understand why the other channels are doing their videos that way.
I have no idea what sensible person would genuinely hesitate for something that will not hesitate to tear you to shreds.
Why does Silas look like a kid version of Baraka from Mortal Kombat instead of a wolfman?
I know this guy is supposed to ultimate strong werewolf or some shit but do some of the deaths by him seem half assed in animation or should I just take it as him being strong and fast? Scary either way lol
Yea some of the clean decapitation kills look pretty lame
The problem with Silas is that the game treats his “showdown” as a big moral decision but we aren’t given any reason why we should feel sympathy for the guy, like literally the whole night he has been killing and terrorising the councillors who we actually have a connection to
He didn't kill anyone though, only bit Caleb on accident 6 years before the game started. Also if you found a certain tarot card it shows part of his backstory and him being tortured. Also the fact he was curled up crying for whatever reason and not responding to the characters speaking even though the creatures are known to have strong hearing made him seem different. But nope, just lazy writing
"Huh, huh? Hows that for you ya fu-"
how’s that feel*
Ah so there is a resolution for finding enough evidence.
You need to find all the evidence and clues collectibles to get that message on the computer screen at the end. A bit of a let down for all the work getting them all. Would have loved like an interview like they did with Until Dawn at the end of the game with the two podcasters in person.
@@ChengTeoh Yeah there were definitely moments in this game where a bit more would have been appreciated
Is just me or is anyone else disapointed with the werewolf design?i mean, it looks just like a bit changed wendigo from until dawn..
Monster is cool and all but seemed a bit lazy....
I agree it hardly even looks like a werewolf most people wouldn’t even be able to tell that’s a werewolf
@2:30 she only blinks with one eye
Jesus Silas kills Ryan in the most brutal way where he is still alive during it
Silas was so disappointing. I expected some QTE chase and some intense things going on maybe with the hag girl trying to distract you by appearing and scaring you or something. On top of that Silas looked almost identical to the other wolves but he was white, which was very hard to see judging how he was covered in blood and the shading made him look about the same color. I thought he would have been a big wolf, with white long fur, menacing eyes, or just a distinct look that differed him from the others. it would make sense why the other wolves looked more humanoid because they weren't originally cursed to make them an actual "wolf"
5:31
Uh, what is this? The blood doesn't protect you from the werewolves lmao. It only masks your scent so you can more easily hide from them.
Jacob was blooded, but was still chased and killed if werewolves physically saw him. Silas literally wouldn't spare Laura just because of the blood on her face, that doesn't work that way. Did they forget how their own plot devices work lmao
Ryan died terribly holy shit!
I like how peoples heads just come off
Honestly out of all of the wolf's Chris's wolf design has to be my favorite he's the only one that really looks like a werewolf to me
Is it possible to have only Laura and Travis in this scene? (I mean the scene in the forest with Silas in his cage).
From what I can tell I don't think so.
Yeah you cant because the only reason they know where silas is, is because of Ryan.
I got like the worst possible ending ever. Almost everybody was killed or infected 💀
most of travis' deaths is just him ethier getting beheaded or shot lol
Am I the only dude who hates how Silas, instead of being a werewolf with white fur who is titled the white wolf, just has slightly white albino skin? Scratch that none of the werewolves look like werewolves, they look like mutated goblins
Can anyone explain to me why they seemed so calm just driving while Silas was on the roof? Did I miss something?
panicking wouldn’t help
The werewolf designs are so similar to the wendigo designs
HE HAD NO JAW!
¨I bet you thinky you´re fucking clever¨ No- no i dont- i just killed 3 of my fav people-
okay but how did silas become a werewolf?
He was born one
How did ryne die in the car crash thought like my dude fell just a little and died
Why would Silas just be there as an easy target and didn’t hear them creep
Up? But then if you chose to save jumps up wild haha doesn’t add up 🤷🏻♂️
Well he was hit by a car and instinctively went to his home as an injured creature.
@@ChengTeoh ah yeah just seemed strange if you pick not to shoot Silas goes crazy like nothings happened!
I connected more with until dawn
Travis: "he's responsible for so much death!"
Laura: "says you!"
GIRL. 20 minutes ago you killed his parents and niece. You're the last person who should call him out on being murderer lmao. The same this happened in the car.
I would love to have this....Infection, I suppose? You would potentially be unkillable, and have an outrageous healing factor with pretty decent strength just in base. If you were literally alone in life, you could use this infection to cause some damage and unless someone knew about the silver, nobody could stop you.
yea, until you start loving people and then kill the people you love. the benefits on the physical health side are amazing, but i don’t think your mental health would benefit from it.