Yes, as someone who loves Israel and Jews, I think the current government of Israel is failing its task, in fact, Israelis have been protesting intensely and many aren't happy with what Benyamin has been doing.
everyone talks about the people being killed in gaza, but Don't forget the people who are being killed in israel as we speak. just think about that bud.
Sorry, but do you really think Israel cares about the opinion of people who want the country to be destroyed? These people that screaming about Massacre where the same who didn't care or celebrated the rape, abduction and murder of israeli civilians. They are the people that deny what happened at october 7th.
@@JJPrizeDistributionComitteeJust curious, if Russia made a bunch of claims about buildings and children being bombed, would you believe them the way you believe hamas?
These people pretending that they cannot see the difference between the Ukraine situation and the Israel situation must be proud at being able to simulate such levels of obtuseness.
@@DavidBradford-cw2fl yes it will, I know you dont consider Palestinians human, so you cant really see how this is a genocide, but for the vast majority of this world that sees Palestinians as humans, this is right up there with the mass tragedies of the 20th century, and will be another shameful stain in humanities long journey, except this time you would support that stain.
@@DavidBradford-cw2fl So you´ve been giving up on the hope, that USAIPAC and its immoral, violence based ruling weill ever come to an end? You are obviously very pessimistic...
Yes but - the Israelis actually got Hamas in, and Hamas don't actually want to share this land, so, the war goes on forever, unless Israel wins outright. So it's a win win for Israel either way.
I disagree. According to recent polls, 70% of the US citizens support Israel 100%. That means only 30% are affected by the propaganda. This is consistent with the history I've read. The German National Socialists before WW2 (I won't say their real name since youtube will hate me for it) only captured 30% of the German vote. If you read the history of WW2 you'll get a good idea why this allowed the socialists to come to power.. but the original point stands.. only a third of any population normally responds to propaganda in a way that is consistent with what the propagandists want. Most people can see through it. And Americans, God bless them, exemplify this point at this moment in history.
@@Aleksus I think you will find that the IDF are more interested in Propaganda rather than truth. They have continiuosly liead in the other wars they had about some slaughters the y have done, so why would you believe them now. All the Hamas figures for the dead civilians were always veryfied as being as a ccurate as they could be and all this in hind sight again and again and again over decades. Soask yourelf a serious question and try and use critical thinking. who is telling the truth?
That's not entirely accurate. For some reason our state simply does not participate in it. Every time, every conflict is being carried by bloggers and some journalists - usually non-Israeli. I mean, Murray has helped Israel more in the last six months than everything the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and IDF spokesman have done ever.
@@snehashispanda4808 yes using same idiotic arguments... it makes you think when you are willing to accept one but not the other right? I prefer tommy robinson at least he admits why he really supports israel which has nothing to do with the isreal and palestine. Douglas murray fails when he debates any right wing critic of israel because we can smell that pro IDF leftist woke sjw BS. What does dogulas murray have? Gay rights? Womens rights? Evil arab colonizers from 1000 years ago? Come on... i dont think homophobia constitutes death penalty let alone death penalty for the children of homophobes yet douglas murray makes that claim all the time and zio rightoids eat that.
Why do people always talk about anti-semitism when talking about Jews? Arabs are also Semitic people. I'm so tired of people separating themselves by "race" and "nationality." We're all family. We're all sons and daughters of Noah. Asians and Caucasians are descended from Japheth and his wife. Blacks are descended from Ham and his wife. Jews and Arabs are descended from Shem and his wife. I hate the hate. Can't we all just get along?
Well Israel / Jews tried to get along even after centuries of being attacked & offered many many peace deals / treaties that seem to always get denied by the Arabs (whom are non-native invaders to Israel btw). After 6 countries attacked Israel & lost ... Israel seized land during that war (which is what winning countries do in war). As a sign of peace & willingness to work w/ people that wanted them dead, Israel gave back land to the countries that attacked them; the Northern Sinai Peninsula was given back to Egypt..... the West Bank was given back to Jordan.... the Gaza strip was given to the Palestinians in 2005 (50,000+ Jews were forcibly removed from their homes to make this happen). All to try to make peace w/ people who have NEVER wanted to make peace with them. How many times do you have to get uppercut in the face & respond "Can't we all just get along?" before you change your mentality & start to defend yourself?
Remember what the Bible said about Ishmael? To this day, a major part of the Islamic Haj is "The Flight of Hagar." They themselves identify with her and her "problematic" son. So, no, there will be no "getting along," sadly.
@@vicegripp I guess they "tried to get along" when they invaded Lebanon in 1978 to wipe out Palestinian militias that were pushed there by Israel? That's just the tip of the iceberg really I could go on and on and on...But I'm tired of this conflict and just want peace like many people in that region. The only ones that don't seem to want peace currently are the Israelis. They even got an archeologist with them in the south to study ancient ruins and make claims like "Jews have history in Southern Lebanon, therefore Israel should take Southern Lebanon..." Does that sound like trying to get along or self-defense to you?? If you support Israel you're free to do so just don't be a hypocrite and get educated about this conflict. There's no good and evil in war.
Russia is illegally occupying ukraine and invades ukraine Douglass: omg these whte people look so much like us how could russia do this😮 Israel has been illegally occupying palestine for the past 75 years and has set up an apartheid regime to artificially attain an ethonationalist state at the expense of the generations of people living there and when they fight back they are the "aggressors". Douglass: Omg look at the mOzLeMz they are a bunch of terrorists they hate the jews so much and Islam is evil. Also I am an athiest but god promised the land to the jews they must take it no matter the cost😢😢
@@KinanBazzi The claim that "Israel is an apartheid state" is completely unsupported by the evidence. Congratulations for buying into terrorist propaganda. 20% of Israelis are Muslim and 2 Muslim women are on the Knesset. The Muslims in Israel oddly support Israel. Why is that, if they are being "apartheided"? Please check your evidence and do your homework before repeating nonsense again.
@@Glastonbury1 That's a convenient way of not citing anything yourself and just turning the tables around. What *exactly* is a claim you would disagree with?
Listen to Mossab Hassan Yousef, he grew up in Islam and Hamas, literally the son of the founder of Hamas. Why would you not buy that guy's opinion over whatever the heck it is you are consuming?
Why would anyone consider one person's opinion as a reliable reference or an accurate representation of an entire nation? Anyone, anywhere, can be influenced or manipulated to spread falsehoods. I suggest you broaden your perspective just a bit more.
Instead of arguing with Zionists in debates they should just ask questions. 1. What did netanyhu mean when he showed at the UN meeting of a map of greater Israel. 2. What did they mean when the said they are Amalak. 3. what genocidal rhetoric has been said by the Israeli government? 4. Why are DNA ancestoral test illegal in Israel if not that nobody is from there? 5. How is it that someone who has never been there and isn't genetically from there has a right of return and yet Palestinians who literally had their grandfather's home there can't visit. 6. What about mowing the lawn and the hanibal directive 7. Why are their so many Jewish critics of Israel 8. What's up with the red heifer 9. If most Israelis are atheists who do they believe God gave them the land?
Most Israelis don't believe that God gave them the land. They believe Israel is the ancient homeland of the Jewish people. That's where Jewish people originated from. The land was originally called Judea.
No it doesn't. Since we are discussing a specific war, which started on Oct 7th. There is no point in discussing the rockets Hamas was firing into Israel for over a decade before Oct 7th. Cause Israel wasn't responding to those attacks. What would you liked to have discussed instead? The 1929 Hebron massacre?
@@MustardSkaven I see so the fact kids were being killed before 7 Oct doesn't mean anything to you, and every vile thing they did before Oct 7 doesn't count for you , you don't care for the fact hamas is reacting and not starting something , good to know that you only count when certine people die.
@@MustardSkaven what about the 70 plus years of Occupation and the thousands of people killed because of countless massacres by the Israeli Government? Even before Hamas was a thing(created by israel) ,there were countless palestinians killed and lands stolen so is Hamas really the enemy of Israel or a way to get rid of the whole of the Palestinian Population slowly and steal their lands because of some verses in a book interpreted to have given rights to steal someone else's land?qould u guys have supported Muslims if they said the land of Spain is theirs because historically it once was theirs?
"Israel can't even do Eurovision without people bringing up Palestine". Well why is Israel in Eurovision but not Palestine? Maybe it's just another European settler state, like Australia which is also in Eurovision.
Jesus was a Jew from Judea. You can't be Christian and pretend that Islamic terror directed through Iran to eliminate all Jews from Israel is what any historic Christian, much less Jesus, would have wanted. BTW, there is no genocide of Arabs.
How about calling for the terrorists (you know Hamas) to surrender so the war can end? Your comment is akin to asking the Allies to leave Germany after WW2
But why does everyone on the pro Palestine side never want to acknowledge what happened to the civilians on 10/7? I really don’t have a side I support but it is wild to me that everyone complains about how Israel is hurting civilians when Hamas did the same thing. They still are holding some of those people hostage. Why is that ignored?
@emma2370 Killing of any unarmed civilians is wrong including Israeli ones and most if not all Pro Palestinians acknowledge that. Perhaps you aren't listening to prominent pro Palestinian voices but to compare Hamas with Israel is intellectually inept, sorry to say. Furthermore, a year past Oct 7th, have you investigated the claims set forth in western media about Oct 7th? For example, how the operation started hitting military posts and then attempting to capture as many civilians in order to exchange for Palestinians held without any charge in Israeli prisons. Or how many Israeli civilians were killed by the the IDF according to the Hanibal directive which is an Israeli directive to kill their own civilians/citizens to prevent them from being taken captive, or civilians being killed in cross fire. How about the now debunked claims of mass rape and beheaded babies? If you haven't hears any if these facts, I'd suggest listening to independent journalists such as Max Blumenthal or Jon Elmer. I'm not suggesting Hamas did not commit wrong doings on Oct 7th but the whole Israeli narrative and western media frames it in such a way as if Israel is a victim and not the aggressor. Bottom line is if you occupy a group of people, resistance will always follow including violent ones.
@@emma2370 Spot on! And how about the irony that Hamas and Hezbollah openly state they wish to wipe Israel off the map yet they are never accused of being genocidal?
Free you mind from the obsessive need to find excuses for Jew hatred. If you're going to hate them, you don't NEED a reason. You're just "one of those." Own it.
The CURRENT WAR started on October 7th. You talking about stuff that has already been done and is over. If every nation in the world brought up the past, then every nation would be at war with every other nation.
Finally, somebody who could see through him. That guy is really a despicable one considering his same 'shaking head' method he use when someone counter his argument.
I'd rather take the opinion of someone who has published several best selling books, has been to Gaza and been to Ukraine during the respective wars rather than some idiot like you
@@daneyal7162Facts or different truths to suite a certain narrative can be monetized. Journalist and even politician need an audience and narrative to stay relevant. Sheeple are your target market (logic)
This is so insane. The fact that Douglas Murray used to be a good common sense British patriot. His reputation is going to be ruined in the years to come. This is literally stuff that would be used in Nuremberg type trials in the future.
You can't put out 80% of a fire? But you light a fire in every victim who loses a loved one. So you can't put out 80% of a fire really means you are advocating for wiping out everyone. Unless of course you can explain why a surviving orphan doesn't grow up to become the thing you are trying to destroy. Murray is smart enough to know the implication which is extremely sinister.
In your comment you saying in other words that Israel have killed 80% of the population and left to destroy the other 20% is that what you saying ? Maybe they will not grow to do the same if there will be no indoctrination to hate jews from the government ( hama*s) and from unrwa schools 80% of hamas military capabilities is destroyed and the 20% is still on the way
"When it comes to Ukraine, everyone was egging them on.......But when it comes to the Israelis, never allowed to win." This is an example of false equivalency and isn't even true to begin with. Extremely frustrating and disingenuous.
Well Israel got The Netherlands disqualified by stalking the artist while there was a no filming agreement. Plus Israel is not Europe. If Russia that is Europe, isn't allowed why would Israel be
@@Marta-oc8ngLOL. If he really assaulted someone they would never have let him join the official after party. They knew that he didn't wanted to get filmed after the semis and they kept trying. He pushed the camera away. No one got assaulted. you people are crazy
The noisy wheel gets the grease. Israel is relatively quiet. The Islamists on the other hand are out protesting very loudly, sometimes violently. Hamas takes prisoners and very publicly tortures and humiliates them. We don't see that from Israel. Israel has never flown planes into American buildings. I'd say weak leadership will tend to bend in favor of the side that will potentially cause the most trouble for America. And Murray is right: you can't put out 80% of a fire. You can't treat 80% of an infection or it will just keep coming back, more and more virulently.
Putin Russia is the same as Netanyahu Israel… no doubts in there, the facts, the history speaks for itself. The question is : Why they are treated differently… that’s the only question
It's definitely not the same. In Israel, you won't get a 12 years prison sentence for disagreeing with the war. Russia has become a totalitarian state in the trueist sense of the word. Israel is leading a brutal war and committing war crimes but its citizens are quite free people. Many of them protest Netanjahu's warfare and corruption.
@@gaulishrealist This comparizon is poor too. Ukraine ONLY defends its territory. They don't bomb Russian cities, they don't force millions of Russians to move otherwise they would be bombed, they don't block food and medicaments etc.
Not by most Palestinians. They'd be glad to have any support or help they can get. Hamas would most likely overlook any disgust they may have for Queers if they were there to help. They're too busy dodging & fighting the IDF. MORE knowledge & understanding are needed, not dismissive bigotry & prejudice.
The two are completely different case, but the common thing between the two is isreal is surrounded by hostile neighbours that seek its destruction, Ukraine has Russian neighbour that seek its destruction
Bill, for the love of God, please get some guests that have an alternate view on the war in Gaza. I’m growing so weary of the echo chamber you are fostering. I have always come to your show for alternate and varied opinions. That has been the source of the great respect I hold toward you. However, you have been so painfully monochromatic on this issue.
1:50 that’s a fallacy. What is meant is that EVEN IF you solve all the other issues, if the Israel-Palestine conflict isn’t solved then there still won’t be peace in the Middle Esst.
what would you label innocent palestinians as in this hamas - fire analogy? Yes you have to put out 100% of a fire to put it completely out but I don't think reality is as simple as that. Also, has Ukraine treated Russia similarly to Israels treatment of Palestine in the past? Truly asking here, please tell me. I don't see comparing and contrasting both conflicts in this way beneficial at all
What is wrong with you? He didn't call all 'Palestinians' a fire to be put out. He quite clearly was talking about Hamas, the ones causing the conflict.
@@Oxley016 Yes, but he said this in support of Israel's intentional targeting of civilian targets, use of aerial bombardment, and blocking of supplies into Gaza. So you are correct that he was talking about Hamas but the response is not limited to the leadership, despite his claims.
I mean if 35,000 Russian civilians were dying during Ukraines counteroffensive, I think we would be questioning that war too. But right now its only armed combatants that are being killed, plus or minus come civilian casualties who are caught in the crossfire.
While I am against Putin’s attack on Ukraine it is in fact a eastern Europeans country with historical ethnic & cultural ties to Russia & was formerly a part of Soviet Union
@@charlottegranger1449 They should be friends, like Denmark and Norway are friends despite Denmark having "owned" Norway for 400+ years. But that is only possible if the independence is respected...
People are blinded by Israel. Think about it, Many Americans are willing to take food from their own childrens mouths and send it to Israel. It's like hypnosis
Hamas has been in power since 2005 (and only in Gaza, not the West Bank). Israel has terrorized Palestinians without provocation since 1948. What excuse for Israeli war crimes are you going to use after Hamas is gone?
this is not about Hamas, this is about the Muslims in 7 oct every Muslim was happy for what's happened, i live in a Muslim country i see even my own family enjoy the terror that happened at that day, i really want for people to understand this.
@@iangrimley6515 where were you when millions of Chinese Muslims were massacred? The hate for Israel from the Islamic community is appalling. They need no excuse to respond to coward terrorists.
Get what? Notice how they never described what winning actually is and what happens thereafter. The implications of “winning” was quite nebulous by design by these 2 propagandists.
@@velocirshtr3756 The winner is the side that makes the other side stop fighting for their goals and enforces their own goals. The loser is the side that stops fighting and accepts the winners conditions. (Think Imperial Japans surrender to America on the mighty Mo).
Like 9/11, Netanyahu knew they were coming. Why the media won't show the protest against Netanyahu? Many Israelis disapprove of the conservative government of who has been very anti-Arab and anti-black towards minorities in Israel and many Israelis disapprove of continued Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the over Apartheid style system in how Palestinians are treated which angers people and make them vulnerable to extremist recruitment.
Hamas still is holding hostages so yes I would argue they are in imminent danger from Hamas. What nation of the planet would not respond in some way to its citizens being murdered and held hostage?
Historical amnesia is widespread and contagious. Hitler once stated that Kemal AtaTurk was his "greatest teacher". Apparently, with the recent October 7th Iran/Qatar/Turkey well-planned genocide of Israelis, to start the War & thus stop the Asia-Med connector, and an additional 150,000 Armenians suffering Amernia's 2nd Genocide by Azerbaijan's (the proxy of Islamofascist Turkey) nothing appears to happen to awaken the "woke". The Int'l Criminal Court president Luis Amaro Ocampo said in Politico today that the officially-genocidal country should be prosecuted. EU's deaf ears remain deaf and conducts its gas/oil business as usual with Azeri oligarchs! As if the world hasn't learned anything about genocides from WWII!
Yes Hitler sympathised with Islamists and they refer to this day to him as their hero, denying the holocaust. Interestingly Hitler also used similar accusations against the Jews riling people up against them all the while him and his followers being the ones actually doing the "baby killing".
Man, i so gotta tell ya, shame on my main sources of news, for just straight up lying to me! because they are saying that bebe actually helped fund & train - hamas. That they knew about hamas' plans up to perhaps a year in advance. That Israel took around 10 hours to finally respond to hamas attack. And that bebe has not shown any proclivity to want to get Those Hostages back! And certainly not for any silly "2-State solution. My bad.
"bebe actually helped fund & train - hamas." And Bush Sr. helped fund & train the Taliban -- does that mean the Taliban should've gotten a pass for 9/11, and that the U.S. shouldn't have responded?
Yeah, your news sources are shit. Israel never funded Hamas and certainly didn't train it. The money transfer that has been brought to light was money from Qatar (same ones donating billions to American universities) to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe. This, of course, is because Hamas used most of the international aid to build weapons and tunnels and Gaza was on the brink of a major famine.
@@batmanRBC Gaza held its election just prior to the Oct 7 23 attack and the result was 84% or their voting age eligibility voted to continue with Hamas as the rulership.
@@batmanRBC 84% / 16% of the eligible voting population of Gaza voted for Hamas and Oct-7 attack. He didn't say anything complicated. The Ivy-League Pro-Hamas professor did a job on you.
There is a big difference between Ukraine and Israel war, Ukraine was invaded by Russia; in regards to Israel they have been ocuppying palestinian land for decades and they don't have the same rights as israeli jews, the list is very long in regards to palestinians been treated like subhumans,plus Hamas was helped by the Likud party to prosper and grow in Gaza, so please do not compare the 2 wars because there is nothing to compare.
@@thecowboy2541 they have blocade in gaza for very long time and you need to look at the whole palestinian context, narrow minded perspective trying to justify israeli actions.
Iranian Regime and convinient allys in war crimes such as Russia funding the "palistinian cause" with the whole propaganda claims inusive. Israel hasn't stolen land nor occupied anyone they just trying to stay alive in the midst of Arabic islamic countries attacking them since day one because they can't bear that THEY couldn't occupy every single inch of middle east under islamic laws. That's why the muslims who lived in the land never settled anywere else nor focused on creating a home within or next to Israel so they can keep the "refugee status" and justification for jihad going for eternity until goal of distruction of Israel is achieved. It's not just about land or having an own state for "Palistinians" or otherwise they would have taken all the chances they have had.
Maybe the Arabs should stop starting wars they can't win and then they'll stop losing land. As for not having the same rights as Israelis, it's because they're not citizens of Israel, they're citizens of Palestine. It's their own leaders not giving them rights, not Israel, where they actually have more rights than in their own countries.
Why don’t we give California or New York to the Palestinians? Let’s just say you’d be best to keep Muslims and Jews away from the Americas as best we can- for our own safety
@@RudyJayTravelsthe Palestinians have not invented anything beyond weapons. (You can google that). Meanwhile Israel has invented so so much. Cherry tomatoes, the camera pill they use in surgeries, drip irrigation, the list goes on and on.
And they still would want the jews to die for the evilness of having a state in what belongs to "Allah" and should be under Allahs rules (the whole globe apperantly by the way....)
@@Futuristbillpicone so you think it is logical to orient foreign policy based on public sentiment? How many Americans even knew where Israel and Ukraine was on a map a year ago? US isn't involved in either Ukraine or Israel. There are no US soldiers deployed. Do Americans understand US prosperity is manifested based on its superpower status? Abandoning strategic allies is a great way to destroy your credibility as a nation.
@@John-bravooo No US soldier deployed, but the US has given almost 160 Billion dollars to these wars. While the middle class in the US is getting decimated... and don't think they aren't going to send troops because France just did that like a month ago.
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Nobody is complaining that Israel is "winning" the war against Hamas. People are complaining that thousands of women and children are being massacred.
Yes, as someone who loves Israel and Jews, I think the current government of Israel is failing its task, in fact, Israelis have been protesting intensely and many aren't happy with what Benyamin has been doing.
That's how war works buddy
everyone talks about the people being killed in gaza, but Don't forget the people who are being killed in israel as we speak. just think about that bud.
Sorry, but do you really think Israel cares about the opinion of people who want the country to be destroyed? These people that screaming about Massacre where the same who didn't care or celebrated the rape, abduction and murder of israeli civilians. They are the people that deny what happened at october 7th.
What about all of the hostages? Are they not innocent civilians too?
The reason why Ukraine and Israel is treated differently is the fact that too many people only see power imbalance as the measure of right and wrong.
Or maybe because one is a Holy War based on religious zealots and the other is a land grab by Russia.
Just curious, how many apartment blocks, hospitals, and schools has Ukraine obliterated?
@@JJPrizeDistributionComitteenonsequitur
Even when the ideology doesn't match. That's the dangerous part.
@@JJPrizeDistributionComitteeJust curious, if Russia made a bunch of claims about buildings and children being bombed, would you believe them the way you believe hamas?
These people pretending that they cannot see the difference between the Ukraine situation and the Israel situation must be proud at being able to simulate such levels of obtuseness.
Simple minded, narcissistic, obtuse imbeciles
I just love how this is digital and will never be lost. There will come a time where saying these names would be a kin to saying Hitler.
Not even close lol
@@DavidBradford-cw2fl yes it will, I know you dont consider Palestinians human, so you cant really see how this is a genocide, but for the vast majority of this world that sees Palestinians as humans, this is right up there with the mass tragedies of the 20th century, and will be another shameful stain in humanities long journey, except this time you would support that stain.
Absolutely right
Its how many times they admitted to exactly what they are doing, they are really shameless. antis3mitism is nothing more than quoting them.
@@DavidBradford-cw2fl So you´ve been giving up on the hope, that USAIPAC and its immoral, violence based ruling weill ever come to an end? You are obviously very pessimistic...
"The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous." - George Orwell
6 days war Israel owned 52 muslims countires to beg
Israel rules
Muslims weak
Simple.
@@rock-n-rolls War is Peace!
Oh my gosh,
Someone who has actually read George Orwell.
Amazing.
Don't find many of you nowadays.
High five.
Yes but - the Israelis actually got Hamas in, and Hamas don't actually want to share this land, so, the war goes on forever, unless Israel wins outright. So it's a win win for Israel either way.
I don't know if Israel will loose the belic war but they for sure lost the propaganda war.
This is because of people like you who puts too much into "propoganda" instead of a real truth
I disagree. According to recent polls, 70% of the US citizens support Israel 100%. That means only 30% are affected by the propaganda. This is consistent with the history I've read. The German National Socialists before WW2 (I won't say their real name since youtube will hate me for it) only captured 30% of the German vote. If you read the history of WW2 you'll get a good idea why this allowed the socialists to come to power.. but the original point stands.. only a third of any population normally responds to propaganda in a way that is consistent with what the propagandists want. Most people can see through it. And Americans, God bless them, exemplify this point at this moment in history.
@@Aleksus I think you will find that the IDF are more interested in Propaganda rather than truth. They have continiuosly liead in the other wars they had about some slaughters the y have done, so why would you believe them now. All the Hamas figures for the dead civilians were always veryfied as being as a ccurate as they could be and all this in hind sight again and again and again over decades. Soask yourelf a serious question and try and use critical thinking. who is telling the truth?
Now that people can see through all the pro-Palestinian lies, many have joined the fight with Israel 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
That's not entirely accurate. For some reason our state simply does not participate in it.
Every time, every conflict is being carried by bloggers and some journalists - usually non-Israeli. I mean, Murray has helped Israel more in the last six months than everything the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and IDF spokesman have done ever.
It didn't start recently at all - this started over 70 years ago.
Yes, and it was started - and continued - by the Arabs for a good 40 years. Look up the ”three nos of Khartoum”
Actually, this started in the 7th century when Arabs colonized Israel.
@@robloxjada61at that time it wasn't israel and wasn't in the hands of the jews either
No, brother, it started in Africa around two million years ago,
The conflict started 100+ years ago. But the current war most definitely started on Oct 7th. Try to keep up.
When you cant win the argument play the anti-semitism card
When you know you’ve lost the argument play the “you’re pretending it’s antisemitism card”.
Brilliant
Also the other side play the Islamophobia card most of the time.
@@snehashispanda4808 yes using same idiotic arguments... it makes you think when you are willing to accept one but not the other right? I prefer tommy robinson at least he admits why he really supports israel which has nothing to do with the isreal and palestine. Douglas murray fails when he debates any right wing critic of israel because we can smell that pro IDF leftist woke sjw BS. What does dogulas murray have? Gay rights? Womens rights? Evil arab colonizers from 1000 years ago? Come on... i dont think homophobia constitutes death penalty let alone death penalty for the children of homophobes yet douglas murray makes that claim all the time and zio rightoids eat that.
@@orrinkom3829 You think this comment is brilliant? How so?
P.s. I used to be a fan. But I'm DIGUSTED ON HOW 'ONE WAY' YOU ARE ON THIS TOPIC.
There's no investigating the root of the issue.
Why do people always talk about anti-semitism when talking about Jews? Arabs are also Semitic people.
I'm so tired of people separating themselves by "race" and "nationality." We're all family. We're all sons and daughters of Noah. Asians and Caucasians are descended from Japheth and his wife. Blacks are descended from Ham and his wife. Jews and Arabs are descended from Shem and his wife. I hate the hate. Can't we all just get along?
Well Israel / Jews tried to get along even after centuries of being attacked & offered many many peace deals / treaties that seem to always get denied by the Arabs (whom are non-native invaders to Israel btw). After 6 countries attacked Israel & lost ... Israel seized land during that war (which is what winning countries do in war). As a sign of peace & willingness to work w/ people that wanted them dead, Israel gave back land to the countries that attacked them; the Northern Sinai Peninsula was given back to Egypt..... the West Bank was given back to Jordan.... the Gaza strip was given to the Palestinians in 2005 (50,000+ Jews were forcibly removed from their homes to make this happen). All to try to make peace w/ people who have NEVER wanted to make peace with them. How many times do you have to get uppercut in the face & respond "Can't we all just get along?" before you change your mentality & start to defend yourself?
Remember what the Bible said about Ishmael? To this day, a major part of the Islamic Haj is "The Flight of Hagar." They themselves identify with her and her "problematic" son. So, no, there will be no "getting along," sadly.
Why do Democrats always talk about race in matters that have nothing to do with race?
@@vicegripp I guess they "tried to get along" when they invaded Lebanon in 1978 to wipe out Palestinian militias that were pushed there by Israel? That's just the tip of the iceberg really I could go on and on and on...But I'm tired of this conflict and just want peace like many people in that region. The only ones that don't seem to want peace currently are the Israelis. They even got an archeologist with them in the south to study ancient ruins and make claims like "Jews have history in Southern Lebanon, therefore Israel should take Southern Lebanon..." Does that sound like trying to get along or self-defense to you?? If you support Israel you're free to do so just don't be a hypocrite and get educated about this conflict. There's no good and evil in war.
Douglas Murray ,graduate of Eton and Oxford keeps recycling the same dumb arguments justifying this atrocious Genocide.
100%
and his arroganc e of his view is the only view is appalling
Ah, "Genocide". Is that like America being an "empire"? As in, it isn't?
Idiot look up genocide.
How is it a genocide? Stop parroting false narratives
Comparing Israel to Ukraine is slimy asf
Russia is illegally occupying ukraine and invades ukraine
Douglass: omg these whte people look so much like us how could russia do this😮
Israel has been illegally occupying palestine for the past 75 years and has set up an apartheid regime to artificially attain an ethonationalist state at the expense of the generations of people living there and when they fight back they are the "aggressors".
Douglass: Omg look at the mOzLeMz they are a bunch of terrorists they hate the jews so much and Islam is evil. Also I am an athiest but god promised the land to the jews they must take it no matter the cost😢😢
why?
@@Jonny-o3lbecause israel is classified as an apartheid state and has been occupying indigenous farmers for 76 years
@@KinanBazzi Indigenous farmers? WTF?
@@KinanBazzi The claim that "Israel is an apartheid state" is completely unsupported by the evidence. Congratulations for buying into terrorist propaganda. 20% of Israelis are Muslim and 2 Muslim women are on the Knesset. The Muslims in Israel oddly support Israel. Why is that, if they are being "apartheided"? Please check your evidence and do your homework before repeating nonsense again.
Douglas Murray really needs to stop cosplaying as some kind of a serious journalist. It’s getting embarrassing.
Did you bother fact-checking him at all?
@@pmarreck did you?
@@PeachesandCream225 I absolutely did and I can find nothing wrong yet
@@pmarreck Because you don't want to find anything. Simple as that!!
@@Glastonbury1 That's a convenient way of not citing anything yourself and just turning the tables around. What *exactly* is a claim you would disagree with?
This man's entire career is built on deceit and sycophancy.
That’s the damn truth. I wish the comment got more reactions.
It's absolutely not. I've fact-checked Murray's claims and they're all solid. Do your homework.
I'm glad you found all the answers you needed. We all need a happy place, even if it’s entirely fantastical.
Listen to Mossab Hassan Yousef, he grew up in Islam and Hamas, literally the son of the founder of Hamas. Why would you not buy that guy's opinion over whatever the heck it is you are consuming?
Why would anyone consider one person's opinion as a reliable reference or an accurate representation of an entire nation? Anyone, anywhere, can be influenced or manipulated to spread falsehoods. I suggest you broaden your perspective just a bit more.
Instead of arguing with Zionists in debates they should just ask questions. 1. What did netanyhu mean when he showed at the UN meeting of a map of greater Israel. 2. What did they mean when the said they are Amalak. 3. what genocidal rhetoric has been said by the Israeli government? 4. Why are DNA ancestoral test illegal in Israel if not that nobody is from there? 5. How is it that someone who has never been there and isn't genetically from there has a right of return and yet Palestinians who literally had their grandfather's home there can't visit. 6. What about mowing the lawn and the hanibal directive 7. Why are their so many Jewish critics of Israel 8. What's up with the red heifer 9. If most Israelis are atheists who do they believe God gave them the land?
Care to find the clip of “Netanyahu’s map of Greater Israel” for me?
DNA tests aren’t illegal in Israel.
I would like to read your answers to all your questions!
Recently they have erased Palestine from their maps their is no Gaza and no West Bank @shishkabab422
Most Israelis don't believe that God gave them the land. They believe Israel is the ancient homeland of the Jewish people. That's where Jewish people originated from. The land was originally called Judea.
So two jews agree israel is totally defending itself and didnt start this by being unilaterally declared in someone else's land.
Israelis aren't in someone else's land.
Both aren't Jews lol
@@אפקאליאב which of them is not Jewish?
@@bethanndavis115 how were Israelis not in someone else's land when it wasnt called Israel until 1948, and they were there?
@@אפקאליאב which one isnt?
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine" Ilan Pappe
haha that's a good one.
That is the most ridiculous comment I've read.
You should read the Bible and FULLY UNDERSTAND. And the true definition of Palestinian. A real Eye opener.
@@Loosybaboosy This comment any better:
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
4. Haifa Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1947
6. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
7. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
8. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
9. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
10. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
11. Jaffa Massacre 1948
12. Deir Yassin Massacre 1948
13. Tantura Massacre 1948
14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
16. Bahro Al Baquar 1972
17. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
18. Al Aqsa Mosque Massacre 1990
19. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
20. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
21. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
22. Gaza Massacre 2012
23. Gaza Massacre 2014
24. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
25. Gaza Massacre 2021
26. Gaza Massacre 2023 ongoing
SO DO NOT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7TH
Free Palestine from Israel’s illegal inhumane treatment, apartheid, land stealing & genocide against the Palestinian people 🇵🇸
@@Loosybaboosy It's because there are many Jewish atheists who are also zionists.
So anything before oct 7 doesn't count?
No it doesn't. Since we are discussing a specific war, which started on Oct 7th.
There is no point in discussing the rockets Hamas was firing into Israel for over a decade before Oct 7th. Cause Israel wasn't responding to those attacks.
What would you liked to have discussed instead? The 1929 Hebron massacre?
@@MustardSkaven I see so the fact kids were being killed before 7 Oct doesn't mean anything to you, and every vile thing they did before Oct 7 doesn't count for you , you don't care for the fact hamas is reacting and not starting something , good to know that you only count when certine people die.
@@MustardSkaven what about the 70 plus years of Occupation and the thousands of people killed because of countless massacres by the Israeli Government? Even before Hamas was a thing(created by israel) ,there were countless palestinians killed and lands stolen so is Hamas really the enemy of Israel or a way to get rid of the whole of the Palestinian Population slowly and steal their lands because of some verses in a book interpreted to have given rights to steal someone else's land?qould u guys have supported Muslims if they said the land of Spain is theirs because historically it once was theirs?
@@MustardSkavenlet’s go back to when this all started when the Arabs conquered and forced people to convert Islam by the sword.
@@MustardSkavenIt is very much not a war in any basic sense. The majority of casualties are women and children. This is a weak argument.
"Israel can't even do Eurovision without people bringing up Palestine". Well why is Israel in Eurovision but not Palestine? Maybe it's just another European settler state, like Australia which is also in Eurovision.
I've always wondered the same thing. Australia and Israel do not belong in Eurovision.
Palestine isn't a Country.
As a white Christian Free Palestine from Occupation and Genocide 🙏 ✝️ 🇵🇸
you've never been there have you ?
@@Desi365 There's nothing left after the Occupation forces of evil have killed all life and destroyed everything ?
Jesus was a Jew from Judea. You can't be Christian and pretend that Islamic terror directed through Iran to eliminate all Jews from Israel is what any historic Christian, much less Jesus, would have wanted. BTW, there is no genocide of Arabs.
As a nonbrainwashed atheist, free women from an oppressive culture which is the core of Hamas who uses civilians as human shields!!!!
How about calling for the terrorists (you know Hamas) to surrender so the war can end? Your comment is akin to asking the Allies to leave Germany after WW2
WHAT A PAIR OF PARESITICAL DROP KICKS.
Douglas Murray conveniently forgets what was happening to Gaza on Oct 6th, 5th, 4th,...
But why does everyone on the pro Palestine side never want to acknowledge what happened to the civilians on 10/7? I really don’t have a side I support but it is wild to me that everyone complains about how Israel is hurting civilians when Hamas did the same thing. They still are holding some of those people hostage. Why is that ignored?
@emma2370 Killing of any unarmed civilians is wrong including Israeli ones and most if not all Pro Palestinians acknowledge that. Perhaps you aren't listening to prominent pro Palestinian voices but to compare Hamas with Israel is intellectually inept, sorry to say.
Furthermore, a year past Oct 7th, have you investigated the claims set forth in western media about Oct 7th? For example, how the operation started hitting military posts and then attempting to capture as many civilians in order to exchange for Palestinians held without any charge in Israeli prisons. Or how many Israeli civilians were killed by the the IDF according to the Hanibal directive which is an Israeli directive to kill their own civilians/citizens to prevent them from being taken captive, or civilians being killed in cross fire. How about the now debunked claims of mass rape and beheaded babies? If you haven't hears any if these facts, I'd suggest listening to independent journalists such as Max Blumenthal or Jon Elmer. I'm not suggesting Hamas did not commit wrong doings on Oct 7th but the whole Israeli narrative and western media frames it in such a way as if Israel is a victim and not the aggressor. Bottom line is if you occupy a group of people, resistance will always follow including violent ones.
@@emma2370 Spot on! And how about the irony that Hamas and Hezbollah openly state they wish to wipe Israel off the map yet they are never accused of being genocidal?
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
4. Haifa Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1947
6. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
7. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
8. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
9. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
10. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
11. Jaffa Massacre 1948
12. Deir Yassin Massacre 1948
13. Tantura Massacre 1948
14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
16. Bahro Al Baquar 1972
17. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
18. Al Aqsa Mosque Massacre 1990
19. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
20. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
21. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
22. Gaza Massacre 2012
23. Gaza Massacre 2014
24. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
25. Gaza Massacre 2021
26. Gaza Massacre 2023 ongoing
SO DO NOT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7TH
Free Palestine from Israel’s illegal inhumane treatment, apartheid, land stealing & genocide against the Palestinian people 🇵🇸
Putting “massacre” after every Arab-instigated attack on Jewish civilians doesn’t make it one, you donut
Free you mind from the obsessive need to find excuses for Jew hatred. If you're going to hate them, you don't NEED a reason. You're just "one of those." Own it.
The CURRENT WAR started on October 7th. You talking about stuff that has already been done and is over.
If every nation in the world brought up the past, then every nation would be at war with every other nation.
Not to mention how Israel treats the Palestinians every day in the occupied territories
ISRAEL DOESNT OCCUPY GAZA LOOK IT UP BUD
@@holemogaming8677
Go play mom and dad with Netanyahus son. Tickle him well
By giving Arabs/Palestinians jobs in Israel?
And the Oscar goes to Douglas Murray.
Finally, somebody who could see through him. That guy is really a despicable one considering his same 'shaking head' method he use when someone counter his argument.
@@TheRazitubehe is dispiceble
Douglas Murray, the best habitual fearmongering career thus far by any human.
Very true and yet he is scared to stand for office 😂😂😂😂
I'd rather take the opinion of someone who has published several best selling books, has been to Gaza and been to Ukraine during the respective wars rather than some idiot like you
You fear him because he brings you facts and logic, something you seemingly lack.
@@daneyal7162 facts that are convenient to him
@@daneyal7162Facts or different truths to suite a certain narrative can be monetized. Journalist and even politician need an audience and narrative to stay relevant. Sheeple are your target market (logic)
Thank you
Long live Israel ❤❤❤🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸
Poor Doug . Only look down. 😢😢😢 Time 2 back home mate.
'And the Saudis will be keen on the gays ' I burst out laughing.Thanks Douglas
Alan Turing?
B I G O T.
@@elkobit7415 😂😂😂 C’mon Man!
Saudis are Israeli American allies. 😂
because republicans love the gays too
Douglas Murray is smug and I hope he enjoys the money they pay him.
This is so insane.
The fact that Douglas Murray used to be a good common sense British patriot.
His reputation is going to be ruined in the years to come.
This is literally stuff that would be used in Nuremberg type trials in the future.
he's become absolutely unbearable
You can't put out 80% of a fire? But you light a fire in every victim who loses a loved one. So you can't put out 80% of a fire really means you are advocating for wiping out everyone. Unless of course you can explain why a surviving orphan doesn't grow up to become the thing you are trying to destroy. Murray is smart enough to know the implication which is extremely sinister.
In your comment you saying in other words that Israel have killed 80% of the population and left to destroy the other 20% is that what you saying ?
Maybe they will not grow to do the same if there will be no indoctrination to hate jews from the government ( hama*s) and from unrwa schools
80% of hamas military capabilities is destroyed and the 20% is still on the way
When will Douglas Murray be arrested for crimes against human decency?
What a tool
Tools are useful. I bet you wish YOU were a tool.
When will Netanyahu be arrested for his despicable crimes against humanity?
Ignorance!
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
no
Wow, 2.3K downvotes vs 9.5 upvotes. Do people hate this video because they said something not detrimental about Israel?!
nah they hate it along side me because its straight up bullcrap
@@thebosszowz Yes; you are more educated and eloquent than Douglas Murray and Bill Mahr. Thank you for your enlightening comment
"When it comes to Ukraine, everyone was egging them on.......But when it comes to the Israelis, never allowed to win." This is an example of false equivalency and isn't even true to begin with. Extremely frustrating and disingenuous.
" jokes of human beings speaking " this should be the title of this video
Because great men like Sinwar and Nastallah you love right? lol
@@5Dimingwe have humanity for the people of palestine who have been oppressed for decades and the fact that they are being ethnically cleansed.
You are the joke here.
Finally! A Liberal video that is worth a like. That is extremely rare.
To paraphrase Julian Assange, the goal is not for the war to be won. The goal is for the war to be ongoing.
Well Israel got The Netherlands disqualified by stalking the artist while there was a no filming agreement. Plus Israel is not Europe. If Russia that is Europe, isn't allowed why would Israel be
O come on …it was the Dutch guy own doing. He tried to assault a swedish production worker!
@@Marta-oc8ngLOL. If he really assaulted someone they would never have let him join the official after party. They knew that he didn't wanted to get filmed after the semis and they kept trying. He pushed the camera away. No one got assaulted. you people are crazy
Wow these people are demented to not see what’s wrong with what Israel is doing
This comes from guy that dont believe in Christianity but practice its culture. The world we live in
The noisy wheel gets the grease. Israel is relatively quiet. The Islamists on the other hand are out protesting very loudly, sometimes violently. Hamas takes prisoners and very publicly tortures and humiliates them. We don't see that from Israel. Israel has never flown planes into American buildings. I'd say weak leadership will tend to bend in favor of the side that will potentially cause the most trouble for America. And Murray is right: you can't put out 80% of a fire. You can't treat 80% of an infection or it will just keep coming back, more and more virulently.
Putin Russia is the same as Netanyahu Israel… no doubts in there, the facts, the history speaks for itself.
The question is : Why they are treated differently… that’s the only question
It's because most of the powerful elites who ruled usa are Jewish.
Repeating that lie doesn't make it true. Israel is defending its homeland, same as Ukraine. Seethe, liar.
Idiotic
It's definitely not the same. In Israel, you won't get a 12 years prison sentence for disagreeing with the war. Russia has become a totalitarian state in the trueist sense of the word. Israel is leading a brutal war and committing war crimes but its citizens are quite free people. Many of them protest Netanjahu's warfare and corruption.
@@gaulishrealist This comparizon is poor too. Ukraine ONLY defends its territory. They don't bomb Russian cities, they don't force millions of Russians to move otherwise they would be bombed, they don't block food and medicaments etc.
The war has been going on since at least the 1940s. It did not start on Oct 7.
Not a war, but an occupation.
War started when muhammad killed jews of medina and khyber. Arabia used to be full of jews. Give them their land back
@@nrdifyits no occupation. Occupation of arabs was ended in 1948
@@JohnSnow01 There is an occupation in the West Bank.
@@nrdify no. Its all jewish land. Jordan is the land which was allocated by league of nations for arabs of that area.
Queers for Palestine. Sure!! go there!! you'd be tossed off a roof.
Not by most Palestinians. They'd be glad to have any support or help they can get. Hamas would most likely overlook any disgust they may have for Queers if they were there to help. They're too busy dodging & fighting the IDF. MORE knowledge & understanding are needed, not dismissive bigotry & prejudice.
Dream on@@damienmitchell1637
What a bunch of bad faith conjecture. Bill and his guests arguments make zero logical sense if you break them down.
I like how he is saying it's wrong to boo Israel in the Eurovision yet Russia isn't allowed to participate. If anything, it's Israel that has it easy
Doug is such a smart man, he's exposing the lunacy well
The two are completely different case, but the common thing between the two is isreal is surrounded by hostile neighbours that seek its destruction, Ukraine has Russian neighbour that seek its destruction
@@Simon-talks Why do you Westerns always want to pick on China 🇨🇳?
why do you easterners always pick on America?
That’s because they are the one to worry about
Bill, for the love of God, please get some guests that have an alternate view on the war in Gaza. I’m growing so weary of the echo chamber you are fostering. I have always come to your show for alternate and varied opinions. That has been the source of the great respect I hold toward you. However, you have been so painfully monochromatic on this issue.
Free Palestine
palestine doesnt exist
Free them mr superhero please
From your idiocy.
Free Israel
I agree. Free Palestine. From Hamas.
Taking the side of the oppressor... that's all this is...
He isn’t taking the side of Hamas
"oppressor" and "oppressed"
Tell us again how you gender studies class went.
@@MustardSkaven : Yeah, learn some fucking history, goofball...you also sound like you need a kick in the groin.
❤🇮🇱❤️ thank you Douglas
1:50 that’s a fallacy. What is meant is that EVEN IF you solve all the other issues, if the Israel-Palestine conflict isn’t solved then there still won’t be peace in the Middle Esst.
Holy crap when did all these Jew haters enter the comment section?
Bill, you are losing your audience with this crap.
"Never allowed to win"..= a global issue
FREE PALESTINE!🇵🇸
No Israel is an occupier
HOW? it pulled out of gaza DECADES ago. LOOK IT UP
@@holemogaming8677 thats not what icc says. Gaza is very much still occupied from land air and sea.
Sinwar is finally dead!!
Well one cannot win if they’re on the wrong side of history, just saying!
You're obsessed with this concept as if the "right side of history" isn't just the side of whoever won.
this Douglas Murray character is a narcissist psychopath.
Nah he rocks! Keep spreading the truth, Doug Murray. We love you!
I'd like to know if this guy has actually been to Gaza or has only seen what the Israelis wanted him to see.
He's been visiting Gaza many times also prior to this current conflict.
If you're talking about Douglas Murray, he seems to have spent just about all his time in Gaza and Israel these past 6 months, for what it's worth.
@@dr.g3860Yes, the only foreign journalist that Israel remarkably allowed in? Hmmmm…..
Douglas Murray’s whataboutism is painful to listen to 😂 You can’t compare apples to oranges.
what would you label innocent palestinians as in this hamas - fire analogy? Yes you have to put out 100% of a fire to put it completely out but I don't think reality is as simple as that. Also, has Ukraine treated Russia similarly to Israels treatment of Palestine in the past? Truly asking here, please tell me. I don't see comparing and contrasting both conflicts in this way beneficial at all
exactly
Spot on
What is wrong with you? He didn't call all 'Palestinians' a fire to be put out. He quite clearly was talking about Hamas, the ones causing the conflict.
@@Oxley016 Yes, but he said this in support of Israel's intentional targeting of civilian targets, use of aerial bombardment, and blocking of supplies into Gaza. So you are correct that he was talking about Hamas but the response is not limited to the leadership, despite his claims.
@@davidbutler116 because Hamas uses their people as human shields!
I mean if 35,000 Russian civilians were dying during Ukraines counteroffensive, I think we would be questioning that war too. But right now its only armed combatants that are being killed, plus or minus come civilian casualties who are caught in the crossfire.
Except the leaders are not in Rafah and the resurgence of Hamas in the North are an indication that the military strategy is not working.
The North is Hezbollah, not Hamas.
Wrong, shahid.
Islam - 1400 years of tradition unhampered by progress.
Without lies Islam dies.
Am Yisrael Chai
Genocide Genocide Genocide….Humanity….?….
Come on, post the whole thing!
Palestine people are beautiful and chosen as well...
The Palestinian means Jew so I guess you're right.
@@karenclark266 You should ask England. They're responsible for the apartheid.
@@karenclark266 Jews are not chosen. They are lame as everyone one else.
😂
@@Zinkronicedemo Yea lol. The country which contributed so much. But you won't speak of the muslim world, would you? Typical deluded leftie.
Israel is a new neighbor moved in, took over a small house, and now wants to change the entire block to suit their needs.
Israel. The eternal victim.
Watch as less and less reasonable people want to appear on Real Time
We are helping Ukraine because they are fighting against occupation...
While I am against Putin’s attack on Ukraine it is in fact a eastern Europeans country with historical ethnic & cultural ties to Russia & was formerly a part of Soviet Union
@@charlottegranger1449 They should be friends, like Denmark and Norway are friends despite Denmark having "owned" Norway for 400+ years. But that is only possible if the independence is respected...
I am for Israel 🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱 God bless Israel and the Jewish people ❤️🇮🇱❤️
What happened to Douglas Murray, he was so based, now he is bending his knees to "the Tribe".
He got a huge cheque from Israel 🇮🇱
He was never based
People are blinded by Israel. Think about it, Many Americans are willing to take food from their own childrens mouths and send it to Israel. It's like hypnosis
Free Palestine from hamas
Hamas has been in power since 2005 (and only in Gaza, not the West Bank). Israel has terrorized Palestinians without provocation since 1948. What excuse for Israeli war crimes are you going to use after Hamas is gone?
this is not about Hamas, this is about the Muslims in 7 oct every Muslim was happy for what's happened, i live in a Muslim country i see even my own family enjoy the terror that happened at that day, i really want for people to understand this.
Palestine was free from Hamas before 1987. The conflict is way older.
@@iangrimley6515 where were you when millions of Chinese Muslims were massacred? The hate for Israel from the Islamic community is appalling. They need no excuse to respond to coward terrorists.
Free Palestine from Zionism
This dude gets it 👍
Well stated sir! 🇬🇧
Get what?
Notice how they never described what winning actually is and what happens thereafter. The implications of “winning” was quite nebulous by design by these 2 propagandists.
@@velocirshtr3756
The winner is the side that makes the other side stop fighting for their goals and enforces their own goals. The loser is the side that stops fighting and accepts the winners conditions. (Think Imperial Japans surrender to America on the mighty Mo).
@@billyrock8305 that’s not explicit enough. That’s the discussion they need to have instead of crying about “they won’t let us win 😭”
Douglas is always right. He just is.
In his own mind and yours.
Common sense overload
Hardly. Within 30 seconds Murray spouts a complete untruth. He’s a moron.
I would call the IDF response to Oct. 7 - the Uvalde Response.
Like 9/11, Netanyahu knew they were coming. Why the media won't show the protest against Netanyahu? Many Israelis disapprove of the conservative government of who has been very anti-Arab and anti-black towards minorities in Israel and many Israelis disapprove of continued Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the over Apartheid style system in how Palestinians are treated which angers people and make them vulnerable to extremist recruitment.
Is Israel in any imminent danger from Hamas? Let’s be real. October 7th should never had happen unless it was allowed to.
Hamas still is holding hostages so yes I would argue they are in imminent danger from Hamas. What nation of the planet would not respond in some way to its citizens being murdered and held hostage?
Bill Maher acting dumb and naive is the stupidest thing on TV
Why is Simon Cowell saying the same thing Hitler said
Historical amnesia is widespread and contagious. Hitler once stated that Kemal AtaTurk was his "greatest teacher". Apparently, with the recent October 7th Iran/Qatar/Turkey well-planned genocide of Israelis, to start the War & thus stop the Asia-Med connector, and an additional 150,000 Armenians suffering Amernia's 2nd Genocide by Azerbaijan's (the proxy of Islamofascist Turkey) nothing appears to happen to awaken the "woke". The Int'l Criminal Court president Luis Amaro Ocampo said in Politico today that the officially-genocidal country should be prosecuted. EU's deaf ears remain deaf and conducts its gas/oil business as usual with Azeri oligarchs! As if the world hasn't learned anything about genocides from WWII!
what are you talking about ?
Yes Hitler sympathised with Islamists and they refer to this day to him as their hero, denying the holocaust. Interestingly Hitler also used similar accusations against the Jews riling people up against them all the while him and his followers being the ones actually doing the "baby killing".
Spot on Douglas!
Palestinians crying a river to the sea 🌊
Man, i so gotta tell ya, shame on my main sources of news, for just straight up lying to me! because they are saying that bebe actually helped fund & train - hamas. That they knew about hamas' plans up to perhaps a year in advance. That Israel took around 10 hours to finally respond to hamas attack. And that bebe has not shown any proclivity to want to get Those Hostages back! And certainly not for any silly "2-State solution. My bad.
"bebe actually helped fund & train - hamas."
And Bush Sr. helped fund & train the Taliban -- does that mean the Taliban should've gotten a pass for 9/11, and that the U.S. shouldn't have responded?
Yeah, your news sources are shit. Israel never funded Hamas and certainly didn't train it. The money transfer that has been brought to light was money from Qatar (same ones donating billions to American universities) to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe. This, of course, is because Hamas used most of the international aid to build weapons and tunnels and Gaza was on the brink of a major famine.
Israel cant lose!
I totally agree with Freeing the 16% of Palestinians in Gaza, -who had the obvious good sense not to vote for Hamas just prior to the attack on Oct 7
How did you come up with that number when half their population is children who weren’t alive in 2006?
@@batmanRBC Gaza held its election just prior to the Oct 7 23 attack and the result was 84% or their voting age eligibility voted to continue with Hamas as the rulership.
@@batmanRBC 84% / 16% of the eligible voting population of Gaza voted for Hamas and Oct-7 attack. He didn't say anything complicated. The Ivy-League Pro-Hamas professor did a job on you.
Well, Israel is the occupying, apartheid power, not the occupied one to compare it to Ukraine! Let’s get this straight first!
Hes changed his mind really,Israel are losing men and machines everyday and Murray not so smug now.😂
THAT, was spot on.
😂😂
There is a big difference between Ukraine and Israel war, Ukraine was invaded by Russia; in regards to Israel they have been ocuppying palestinian land for decades and they don't have the same rights as israeli jews, the list is very long in regards to palestinians been treated like subhumans,plus Hamas was helped by the Likud party to prosper and grow in Gaza, so please do not compare the 2 wars because there is nothing to compare.
Gaza where the attack came from wasn’t even occupied🤦♂️
@@thecowboy2541 they have blocade in gaza for very long time and you need to look at the whole palestinian context, narrow minded perspective trying to justify israeli actions.
Iranian Regime and convinient allys in war crimes such as Russia funding the "palistinian cause" with the whole propaganda claims inusive. Israel hasn't stolen land nor occupied anyone they just trying to stay alive in the midst of Arabic islamic countries attacking them since day one because they can't bear that THEY couldn't occupy every single inch of middle east under islamic laws. That's why the muslims who lived in the land never settled anywere else nor focused on creating a home within or next to Israel so they can keep the "refugee status" and justification for jihad going for eternity until goal of distruction of Israel is achieved. It's not just about land or having an own state for "Palistinians" or otherwise they would have taken all the chances they have had.
Maybe the Arabs should stop starting wars they can't win and then they'll stop losing land. As for not having the same rights as Israelis, it's because they're not citizens of Israel, they're citizens of Palestine. It's their own leaders not giving them rights, not Israel, where they actually have more rights than in their own countries.
Power imbalance is not the measure of right and wrong, remember the little guy can also turn bad.
Why don't we just give Alabama to the Palestinians. It's about 10 times bigger than the State of Palestine with about the same population.
Give florida to the Israeli's if the US is so keen on defending them.
Israel can have Florida and Palestinians can have Michigan.
Why don’t we give California or New York to the Palestinians?
Let’s just say you’d be best to keep Muslims and Jews away from the Americas as best we can- for our own safety
@@RudyJayTravelsthe Palestinians have not invented anything beyond weapons. (You can google that). Meanwhile Israel has invented so so much. Cherry tomatoes, the camera pill they use in surgeries, drip irrigation, the list goes on and on.
And they still would want the jews to die for the evilness of having a state in what belongs to "Allah" and should be under Allahs rules (the whole globe apperantly by the way....)
How many people in the United States want the US involved in any of these two wars?
How many in the US understand geopolitics and foreign policy?
@@John-bravooo You'll be surprised, we are in the age of knowledge.
@@Futuristbillpicone so you think it is logical to orient foreign policy based on public sentiment? How many Americans even knew where Israel and Ukraine was on a map a year ago?
US isn't involved in either Ukraine or Israel. There are no US soldiers deployed. Do Americans understand US prosperity is manifested based on its superpower status?
Abandoning strategic allies is a great way to destroy your credibility as a nation.
@@John-bravooo No US soldier deployed, but the US has given almost 160 Billion dollars to these wars. While the middle class in the US is getting decimated... and don't think they aren't going to send troops because France just did that like a month ago.
@@Futuristbillpicone you think foreign aid is undermining the middle class? You know this money.....goes to Americans?
The video footage of Gazans on Oct 7th says it all. Its their footage and they are proud of it. Disgusting.
If you’d had your land stolen and been oppressed for 75 fuking years, most likely you’d be happy too.
Love this comment section.