Vi Season 13 Jungle Guide | The SECRET to using R, Q Theory, Jungle Pathing, Items & Builds
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- WARNING! This Vi jungle guide IS NOT for the short attention spanned. This is a VERY DETAILED and seriously PRACTICAL Vi guide that WILL give you a complete understanding of how to play Vi most effectively in your own League of Legends ranked games.
In this extensive guide I cover the best Vi runes, item builds, jungle pathing, how to hit more Q's (Vault Breaker), the mindset to using your R, common low elo Vi mistakes and I share my personal Vi learning notes.
Check below for timestamps of all the topics covered in this Vi Season 13 jungle guide… Enjoy!
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Vi GUIDE TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - How I made this Vi guide
2:03 - Why play Vi?
3:55 - Vi Q Line Missile Display
4:43 - What you MUST Understand about Vi
14:59 - Clearing Jungle Camps Tips
18:27 - Vi Blue Start Clear
19:42 - Vi Red Start Clear
22:14 - Vi Q Theory
47:13 - What BAD Vi Q's look like
52:55 - Vi Build Option 1
55:45 - Vi Build Option 2
57:00 - Vi Skill Order
57:41 - Common Low Elo Vi Mistakes
1:12:18 - Level 2 Ganking with Vi
1:14:47 - Level 3 Invading with Vi
1:16:46 - Lane Ganking
1:18:26 - Nathan's Vi Learning Notes
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As a Silver player, this guide was *so* good. I find that most guides spend most of their focus on builds and micro tactics/combos. As a Diamond+ player, these things may be all you need, but the amount of time you spend on breaking down mindset and the "why" behind tactics (with multiple examples) is incredibly helpful for me. Thanks for creating the Vi guide I've been trying to find for a long time!
I've had the same experience overall, thanks for the great guide Nathan!
As a Vi main with 3k plus games I’m impressed with how quickly you were able to lockdown the correct play style for her.
Man, your dedication to this gudie is amazing. I'm not even a Vi player, but after this guide I wanna add her to my roster, thanks for such in-depth content with video examples !
Nice guide! I like the depth of the guide, and I am definitely guilty in doing some of the ‘no-no’s from time to time, so this is a good opportunity to become more aware of those (walking it in instead of charging Q too early, holding R mini-game). I would like to add that R can be used to buffer CC. Might have missed it, but I didn’t notice Nathan mentioning it( let’s say you have a Nami ult coming towards you, for example).
What a good time for a comeback! I been seeing this build pop up through the vi community so excited to see how well it meshes together.
Super useful guided Nathan, thanks a lot for this. Vi never really clicked with me at a strong level. Even though I felt a lot of this I couldn't always put it to words and concepts. So it helps a lot when you clearly articulate it and give examples. Especially the bit about Vi being a champion that creates pressure and can lock down carries. That is for sure a great mindset when playing her and new to me.
Im so thankful for this video. I cant believe someone just talked about my main for one and a half hours 🙏
This is going to be really helpful, thanks Nathan.
thx a lot for the guide, it's pretty helpful and now I see many of my mistakes in every game. I like how you explain all the mechanics of the character deeply. Do more content!
Commentaire de soutien. Merci pour les explications développées.
hello, I have a massive mental block about playing Vi but will still watch for the jungle knowledge
Thanks for the guide. Looking forward to another great year of JG guide content! Really hungering for some insights on the new JG now that the changes have stabilized more
Awesome guide bro ty. Definitely gonna use this on my climb
fantastic job, it is the most in depth vi guide, keep it up
amazing insight on vi playstyle. thanks Nathan
THI IS GOLD MY MAN! Thank you for this video! as a Vi main this helped me a lot to have a better understanding about the champ's mechanics and strats!
Thanks for the Vi content!
Im rewatching this and I want to share my experience with this excellent guide:
the most important advice for me was the "Close as much distance with walking". My ganks got so much better after that.
The distance to the enemy got too small, they couldnt escape anymore and the Q hits 99% (or they use flash etc. and then the Q hits which is even better).
this is insanly detailed. Big Like!
Lovely guide. I was thinking to became jung and vi main, thanks alot mate:)
I don't have a clue if you'll read this, but this guide made me go from clueless to absolutely amazing in my Vi games. I really hope you do guides on more junglers for S13, especially Jarvan or Zac. Would love to see your take on those if you have them. Or any content. I want more. MORE!!!
Amazing stuff.
nathan, I simply love your content, especially this guides, they are the most complete i've ever seen.
I would love if you made one of these talking about nidalee/kindred/graves, because the 3 of them are my champion pool and have little to no explained high elo gameplays online. Also, theyre very popular at korean high elo, so I think we would learn a lot.
Thank you for the content once again!
amazing guide! As Vi main, I like to see how high elo VI works : ) Thanks for the advices.
Love your work motty
Good guide :D
Such great content, that was awesome. Getting back in the game and I wanna main Vi since it ain't that hard to play her and I can't play a LOT
Brother thank you for your guide
Finally some Mott content again :D
Glad to be back, getting into the details with Vi!
Cool vid thx
Thanks for this, I've learnt quite a few little tricks with Q, although I think I still prefer the Eclipse build with Hail of Blades and Future Market
great details. learned so much. ty. I wish guides like this existed for all champions. -- too bad you have a full time job.
57:29 you either max W first E second if you're not sure in your Q and you are tanky, or you max Q->E->W if you want to deal damage, that's it. There is no option of maxing W second because enemies don't have too much armor in early stages.
I only have a few hours in this game and im slow to learn but this guide helped me especially realize how important it is to land qs.
Everyone get in here!!!
I can't help but notice as a voli main, and the fact he was in sooo many of the games you showed. You never mentioned Volibear xD
Keep the guides going!
In addition, if you will go back to making vi guides, could you perhaps visit some Insec advanced Vi tricks such as Q launch + Flash = Ori Shockwave knockup, or pressing R mid Q to stack Q + R damage, or using flash mid R to drag certain champs to a location? And probably discuss some other experimental items in the past such as Stridebreaker, Galeforce, Prowler's?
Thank you!
lets gooo! ill dig this after finals.
Good luck in your finals, Hasan
@@nathanmott Thank you so much Nathan. You really help me to really understand the game. Keep up the good work! Keep 'em coming. ☺
Lovely guide. I'd like to request a poppy guide if she's on your list.
I don't use Q to get in range for my R usually. But I haven't done the Q auto E R combo, I honestly just thought that the R was supposed to tickle other champions. Hopefully this new knowledge will step up my games.
Hi Nathan, I was wondering if you had any plans to make another guide now that S14 is upon us? I realise there's not much for you in these videos but I really enjoyed this Vi guide back in the day (and I'm thinking Hexplate and Sundered Sky are pretty strong on her as far as new items go) and I just generally enjoy your style of in-depth videos and listening to you talk about champions and the game.
Damn, might need to share this in vi mains
You should hold your smite on gromp from when you first clear since you kill it in 2 shield rotations and it makes it so that your shield is immediatly up for wolves so you can start that camp with aa->e->aa for healthier and faster time
This is well made, good job.
I really like the Trinity+BC build with W max 2nd. Its really good.
I tried Trinity in some of my games but didn't feel good compared to the 2 builds I covered in the guide.
@@nathanmott did you max W before E though? It's the main difference maker. Makes you strong enough to duel Champs like Camille or Riven and you can clear way faster.
@@MrWiented I did yes. Still didn't get results I wanted.
@@nathanmott okay! I'm hoping you enjoyed our champion. Have a nice day!
@@nathanmott was a little suprised to not see an eclipse build, I find the shield+ms off a q aa e for skirmishing with it is great, but I know lethality is considered kinda bad since the durability update.
Just wanted to share a tip which I read on Reddit: If your opponent has a spellshield und you used your ultimate, try to smite them while in air to break the shield!
I always played assassin Vi but tried out that tracendant and it worked wonders on a game where most of my team was way behind. Went 12/4/12 ftw
Watching this in s14 still as I think Vi is very underrated in the new season with the new items.
Great Guide! Would you still go for chainsword > virtue despite the nerfs ?
hi, as a new vi player i lliked your guide so much and you earned a new follower. i dont have much to say about your guide cuz its perfect. but i wonder if you can say sth about going lethality , crit vi. i even thought about essence reaver and navori as first two items, then going little bit tanky and then black cleaver. idk you know better then i do, i just think there might be more options. it seems like you worked too hard btw, thx for all that.
Please make a rengar guide Nathan
16:25 for the raptors, you can hit all of them with your Q by targeting the farest small one in the direction between the nearest two. So if you have your Q and run towards raptors, you can charge it for max and then release and hit all the raptors, and this is the fastest way to start clearing this camp.
What an amazing piece of content :D
Whats's the benefit of rushing Chempunk Chainsword?
Great gold value with AD, ability haste, health and healing reduction. Everything Vi loves.
It's one of the most cost effective items in the game currently and you want to be strong as early as possible.
babe wake up nathan dropped a guide
This guy probably: Great! We won the game and i didnt have to use my R, now i can save it for my next game.
I only play vi when the enemy comp allows me to go eclipse, collector, essence reaver
Really fun and effective build into the right comps
I did not know about the timing e with your passive I would usually just press e whenever it was up.
Hi! Love the guide and learned a ton, can't wait to implement this in my Vi games.
Nathan, I had a question about your Q flash usage and wanted to ask. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like from most of your own clips, you're using Q charge, flash, Q release to flash combo. I am wondering if there was a specific reason you're doing that, as I'm pretty sure that Q charge, Q release, and flashing the hitbox to connect after Qing is slightly faster (and much harder for opponents to counterflash if they're using your flash sound cue to counterflash). Another benefit is that it lets you land Q on backline targets who are behind a tank, since you can Q towards them and then flash OVER the tank once you're in range to connect on a carry. My understanding is that it works the same way as Gragas body slam, Shen taunt, etc. Is there a reason you're choosing to Q charge - flash - Q release instead of flashing during the Q dash animation instead? Is it just consistency/difficulty, or is there another reason that I'm missing?
Thanks, appreciate your guide, especially a lot of the pathing details! It was super helpful for making sense of the early game plan.
As an example, I'm thinking specifically of this clip ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxamyfQDCwgAzI29Jvjb_G5qJD_q-gGP6z where you're chasing Taliyah. You end up Q charging, then flashing before Q release, which stuns you on Taliyah E rocks since she buffered the animation during your Q charge. I think if you are Q flashing, you either beat her to the punch if she's slow (and connect Q before she can E, in which case she's definitely losing after you R her W knockback since you won't come out stunned), or she beats you out with E (but if that happens, it will trigger during your Q dash BEFORE you've input flash, so you'll get stunned before you commit flash and can back out of the play and ult near the top side of the fight). In the 2nd situation you can just bail out and use flash and R on the other side of the fight, but in the 1st situation I'm pretty sure you can convert the kill (a bit hard to tell since the fight is chaotic). It's possible that the pick is still just conceptually not good to go for, given the nature of the fight setup, but I wonder if the pure 1v1 interaction becomes winnable with Q charge - flash - Q release instead of Q charge - Q release - flash.
If you are actually Q release - flashing there, my apologies. It's a bit hard to tell in the replay since even Q charge - flash - Q release comes out pretty fast, but I think Q charge - Q release - flash is still slightly faster (and can create a flash mind game situation like Gragas jungle body slam ganks).
ruclips.net/video/iSmY3-IL1BU/видео.html this video is old but shows the flash usage I'm talking about.
Yes, you're right. I should be doing more Q release into Flash, like Gragas E Flash combo. It's harder for enemy to dodge. I believe it's more difficult to time it?
I didn't end up doing it any of my games but thats a good next step to improve my Vi.
56:26 for the low elo, if you are really good on Vi, the best 1v9 build is pure glasscannon lethality+crit. Building health and resists is redundant if you know how to position yourself and do maximum damage. Plus, you have Edge of Night to save you from random skillshot and a shield from Eclipse
how does the nerfs and recent changes affect the way we play Vi? Mostly talking about Item and Build.
You have a nice smile btw :)
That was a very thorough guide ! I’m a main vi and just discovered your awesome channel by looking the vimain subreddit. As a long time vi player (s5) and that only hit diam s11 I learn some of your teaching the hard way.. if only I would Time Machine to tell me those things hehe
Whats are your thought on going
DivinS -> Ionia boots -> death’s dance ? I feel that it give me enough tankiness for nice cdr and flat ad for the insane scaling of Q
If you are going to get Ionia boots you need to get them early to utilize gold value. Divine sunderer is always best with magic footwear + cosmic because you want your mythic item first. Then can build steel caps or mercs
Deaths dance is a better 3rd item. The other options are better for your 2nd item.
problem with deaths dance is it doesnt give hp - which scales your passive. So I would wait untill 3rd or 4th to get it
@@ougibestgirl5373 i don’t build dd any more I think this comment was made pre 13.1B, I totally agree with you.
Just a nitpick but wouldn't it be better to hold on to E for a few more seconds when you take raptors at 19:28? To increase shield uptime.
Knowing there's quite big changes on radiant virtue coming, what I'm assuming divine sunderer will be your main focus?
hi nathan, bbc disciple and SoS student here. Obviously I play support and not jungle but im here to do my job and "support" your video!! Vi holds a special place in my heart when I was trying to main jungle she was the first champ I mained, and I did that for about half a year. I'm sure this video is a banger and I'm going to learn a lot so I'm excited to get into it! edit: where can I get a get into the detail shirt I NEED it
Love hearing from our BBC disciples and Cupcake students. Vi jungle could be a good secondary for you in Season 13 to compliment your support after you finish this guide then!
@@nathanmott ahh, great idea! I might get on that as I dont have a solid secondary right now
15:56 3..2..1 and then you must stop your auto for a moment before hitting the passive and then reset your auto with E. This way, you get a shield AND reduce the passive's cooldown by 3 extra seconds. What you did is you did not stop your auto and proc passive without E, so the passive's cooldown will be 3 seconds longer.
come back bro ur the best
Really amazing guide! Only thing I was missing is some “alternative builds” like hail of blades crit, lifesteal or attackspeed (as some of these might be highly viable in the lower elos where you’re often relying mostly on yourself). But after all it’s massively helpful and it will definitely bring my game to a whole new level! ❤
the first clear with Vi could be done much more effective if u add up some little things to the passive procs
With Gromp you can proc your passive with Auto + E right before gromp hits you, keeping you healthier and killing it sooner with the auto cancel from your E.
Also if your passive is up, wait until your W is about to proc, and hit the 3rd one with an abilitie to maximize your passive's cooldown reduction !
Im lowelo and just started Planung vi i played her a lot in like s9 or 10 bzt now i Pick her constantly in almost every game. What do RUclips think off the crit build? 2-3 items and pretty much os everything feels good to climb whats ur opinion?
1:14:00 never do a lvl2 gank unless you play a high quality challenger game. In any lower elo starting from gold the enemy jungler will punish you for it and there is a big chance your team will ignore it completely
new nathan mott just dropped
What will the build be after the fighter items changes which are now on pbe
If you miss Q, and you know it, do you even have to load up the review? Can I just go next if I know my mistake?
LETS GOO
Hey Nathan! Amazing guide. Even as a Master Ranked player level 7 on Vi, this guide revolutionized the way I play Vi in my solo-queue games. I'd love to get a chance to collaborate with you, potentially with gameplay review, YFJC, or even as a follow-up to this video based on implementing your strategies in my own gameplay. Thanks again for the amazing content!
The aim of this guide is to change how Vi players think about using her Kit, so this is great to hear!
Absolutely keen to hear how you progress with the material in this guide. Send me a DM on Twitter (link in description).
"this guide revolutionized the way I play Vi in my solo-queue games" How? It's been out for ten hours and it's an hour and a half long. I love Nathans content, can't wait to watch the video, but c'mon.
Hello, Nathan do you have a discord I am a Vi main almost 1 Mil points plat 4 and I have allot of thoughts I would highly appreciate your feedback on. Especially now since hex and death dance got nerfed. I would highly appreciate it. +Also as important as the passive is for jungling making sure to auto and reset with e after camp attack so that your shield last for 2 autos is also really important.
The largest nerf Vi ever received was her ult being renamed to "Cease and Desist" from "Assault and Battery". 😢
Hey nathan what do you think of aftershock ?
Good if you expect a lot of burst from the enemy in fights but it has to be a lot to be worth. It's goated on ARAM though
Do you think shojin is a good option on vi ? it gives a lot of cdr and good dmg
Shojin is half effective on Vi Q and doesn't do anything for W and R. Only get full value on E, not as important. Better off getting Black Cleaver.
Shojin isn't as good as a 3rd/4th/5th item. Would rather have items like DD, GA, Sterak, Thorn, better for teamfights midgame.
1:04:22 I understand he played it poorly there but we have to admit that yone is broken right? No other champion can kill vi there no matter how hard you missplay.
what jungle pet do you like for Olaf in season 13?
Don't know. I haven't played Olaf in Season 13 yet.
@@nathanmott I hope/look forward to hearing your thoughts on that in the future.
"laners have accepted death" at 30:02 ROFL
HOB is better than Conq
As a Vi onetrick player there were some problems with your guide. Firstly, if you perfectly use the passive against blue, red, gromp and sometimes krugs, you can take 2 attacks to the shield instead of just one like you did in the guide. Instead of smiting gromp first then attacking it on the first clear, try to auto attack it once then immediately E it. I also like to smite the first Buff so i can have a quicker lvl 2 and higher DPS. Also try to hit both krugs with your Q.
35 game of course great way to have the best Guide... what a joke
53:52 this is the most fatal mistake to buy chainsaw on Vi. You have two CC abilities and you need extra tankiness in fights, so you benefit much much more from the thornmail. Whenever I don't play Vi and see my Vi is building chainsaw I start thinking of free lose and most of the time it is.
Answer the Lasagna questions boys
Yo, i dont know, to me there is some miss informantion on this champ, for exemple, the rank 1 Vi in the world already discarded the chempunk, New tank item legendary, cuz First she is a niche pick, if u need a tank engager, Just pick something Else, of u get 4/0 and build tank u are wasting her snowball Power on a utility build when u should bê picking off, she can one shot most mid laners and adcs after 2 Ad itens, they do Make this tanky build in pro play because of team sinergy and coordenation, Vi does not fit in this "tank" meta, she lacks base tank stats compared tô other fighters and tank junglers Will have a way better time at engaging, dealing damage and CCing, if u gonna hit the wall, hit It hard, dont try to bê the wall, u Will Just waste her potential.
its insane how master players are unable to get mvps in their wins, this only proves how much you're getting carried tbh
do they actually need to? league is about killing the nexus and consistently making right micro and macro decisions to achieve that, not about kills, being an mvp or whatnot
@@bohdanvinter6929 ofc not when you're trash in the game xD there are very few good challenger players out there that consistently carry and deserve to be in that elo. The average chall is just an average player with big experience on the game (which proves that you don't need skill to get to chall but you definitely don't deserve it otherwise)
@@witcherpie what do you mean by "skill"? speaking about experience, aren't there hundreds of thouthands of players with thouthands of hours in league who are still harstuck as f? to climb a certain division you just need to be better than an average player of that division, not a Bo or smth
@@bohdanvinter6929 man these people never even tried to understand how league works, they play for fun, they are in bronze for years and they're fine with that, they never tried to understand the basics of the game.
It's impossible to not climb when you're actually trying to do the basic stuff that every silver player knows
wrong, 90% of throws/defeats in league are because of the simple law of being outnumbered in a specific fight because a team member is not present or died earlier for no reason or recalling when the whole group is ready.
This is not something an individual can fix, there is nothing you can do about it.
In my experience almost 90% of the mid/late game fights a team lost bec they were outnumbered, not because our team was better. This is how you win or lose in league, simple as that, and there's nothing you can do about it.
you can tell me to stop forcing plays with missing team mates, ye sure but recalling when drake up and prio bot is plain autistm for example, I'd rather risk the play than give in to the stupid play of a member.
just watch the broken by concept podcast dude