What is the Xenomorph HOMEWORLD? - Alien Romulus

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  • What and where is the Xenomorph HOMEWORLD? - Alien Romulus
    Xenomorph Prime was the fourth planet orbiting the star Achilles 2, located in the Achilles System.
    It was the Xenomorph XX121 homeworld, but also home to several other species.
    Hidden by twin binary stars, Xenomorph Prime was at least the size of Earth and possessed three major continents as well as a small ocean.
    While the Xenomorph population on Xenomorph Prime was ultimately determined to not be indigenous, it was unknown how they arrived there in the first place; whether they were intentionally imported, or part of an experiment that had gotten out of control, or from a crashed ship. Regardless, the Xenomorphs made the world their own and built a number of gigantic Hives, at least one of which housed a Queen Mother.
    Locked in a constant state of dusk, the climate was hot and humid, and the atmosphere was breathable for humans.
    While the terrain was mostly flat, the planet was covered with shallow salty seas, swamps, and desert wastelands. The areas overrun by Xenomorphs were also covered with Hive resin.
    The Xenomorphs on Xenomorph Prime were stronger and quicker than their off-world counterparts, perhaps due to the having access to different hosts.
    Initially, all Xenomorphs belonged to a single hive, but after the Super Queen died, they split into two different hives which would not only compete, but were immediately hostile towards one another, and would attack on-sight.
    These were the so-called “Black” and “Red” Aliens; which, in the comic books, were represented as having exoskeletons of varying hues, the comics editors have said the colouring was just there to be able to tell the factions apart, and didn't necessarily need to be taken as the second hive literally being Red in colour; likely, as a reference to Black and Red Ants.
    The leaders of the entire Xenomorph species, are the rarest type of hive monarch and arguably the rarest type of Xenomorph, full stop, the Queen Mother.
    While there have been many Queens, only a handful of Queen Mothers have been known to exist. As their name suggests, they are the highest caste of Xenomorph, above even the Queens.
    While the planet featured very minimal vegetation, it did host indigenous animal life, with several avian, mammal or reptile-like species; however, an unnamed species was known to compete with the Xenomorphs, thus becoming their only natural predator.
    These creatures most closely resemble Cynodonts, which were a predecessor to mammals, often described as “Mammal-like Reptiles”. They had pale, creamy skin, and blazing orange eyes, with clawed fingers, and quadrupedal.
    They could contend with a Xenomorph in combat and were shown clawing into and biting their bodies, indicating that the Acid blood had no effect on them. Their own blood was black in colour.
    Instead of being above, or below the Xenomorphs on the food chain, they seem to share the niche and compete, keeping each other's numbers in check.
    For many years, the Yautja kidnapped facehuggers from Queens and took them offworld to spread on other planets in order to breed Xenomorphs for hunting. In the 2190s, an expedition led by Billie, Wilks and a synthetic of Ellen Ripley landed on the planet to abduct the Queen Mother, starting a civil war between two young Queen Mothers.
    An expedition led by billionaire Daniel Grant to retrieve Royal Jelly in order to synthesise Xeno-Zip landed in the middle of this schism and nuked the Red Xenomorph hive, killing the Red Queen Mother; queenless, the rest of the Red Xenomorphs were eradicated by the opposing blacks. At some point after the events of AVP 2010, the Elite clan headed to the planet for their greatest hunt yet, followed by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, while Specimen 6 was seen being transported off BG-386 on board a Weyland-Yutani vessel.
    The validity of the Xenomorphs having a home-planet depends on whether or not you consider Prometheus and Alien Covenant to be canon. As the comicbooks featuring the planet was made before Prometheus established that David was the creator of the Xenomorph species using the Black goo pathogen, which was created by the Engineers.
    Me myself personally, I like to believe that the Xenomorphs are in fact a mysterious, ancient, naturally-occuring species, as I find that to be more mysterious and thought-provoking than having them be created by David, as Prometheus and Covenant say happened.
    Make sure to let me know in the comments if you prefer Xenomorphs to be a natural species, or an artificial one, and if you think Alien Romulus will follow the prequels, or retcon them.
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  • @mrc2k5
    @mrc2k5 Месяц назад +1091

    Canonicaly it was explained in the Prometheus/covenant novelisations that david did NOT make the xeno, just his version of it. There is a mural of a xeno in Prometheus before they encounter the pathogen. He just tried to make his own version of it.

    • @Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth
      @Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth Месяц назад +39

      💯

    • @mikeriley2475
      @mikeriley2475 Месяц назад +55

      Canonically David, "Refined" the Pathogen.

    • @GarbearFitness
      @GarbearFitness Месяц назад +28

      But they say those movies aren’t cannon. Not sure why even make them if they aren’t but that’s what i heard

    • @mikeriley2475
      @mikeriley2475 Месяц назад +9

      @@GarbearFitness Hope so.

    • @corymckinnon9588
      @corymckinnon9588 Месяц назад +13

      That was a Deacon

  • @TR1B4L
    @TR1B4L Месяц назад +1308

    I prefer the idea that the xeno is a natural creature from another world we don't understand

    • @AM1780
      @AM1780 Месяц назад +145

      Same. The weapon hypothesis is lame

    • @Shoutatclouds
      @Shoutatclouds Месяц назад +89

      Absolutely
      Alien should be "alien"not specifically planned.

    • @AhsokaMorph
      @AhsokaMorph Месяц назад +31

      I think the lore about xenomorph prime was built on the premier they're natural extraterrestrials and it makes them more mysterious and I like it. However, their ability to reproduce in different ways(ocomorphing, queens laying eggs, royal facehuggers praetorian-queen transformaction) and their short lifespan, at least in case of regular workers fits the weapon hypothesis. I'm not sure which one is better.

    • @AhsokaMorph
      @AhsokaMorph Месяц назад +7

      *premise *ovomorphing(eggmorphing)

    • @TR1B4L
      @TR1B4L Месяц назад +17

      @@AhsokaMorph No reason that life cycle couldn't be considered on a undiscovered world where they are an averaged strengthed creature from their world. I like the idea the engineers were studying them and they ecasped on their ship. Also I really dislike the idea the engineers created like on many worlds. They should have just been a advanced culture that got wiped out by either the alien or predators hunting them.

  • @daisyduck8593
    @daisyduck8593 Месяц назад +500

    You can see Xenomorph-like figures on the walls of the engineer ships in Prometheus. So David couldn't have created them. He just bred something that was already there. And so the AvP universe still remains plausible...

    • @MaddogKernan
      @MaddogKernan Месяц назад +32

      And also an alien skull inside the predators space craft in the trophy room in Predator 2

    • @Subpac_ww2
      @Subpac_ww2 Месяц назад +6

      The death of Weyland in AvP, on 2007, makes it NOT plausible as we saw it. That messed with the timeline too much.

    • @daisyduck8593
      @daisyduck8593 Месяц назад +26

      @@Subpac_ww2 Weyland is a family business... He has family members. After death a Weyland in Prometheus is plausible.

    • @scorpsieorwin5678
      @scorpsieorwin5678 27 дней назад +7

      Charles Bishop Weyland ( Lance Hendrickson) built Bishop - Aliens. His son Peter Leyland - (Prometheus) Which was a prequel so... Help me out here lolz! My lil brain cell can't cope 🤣🤣🤣

    • @mojoe6396
      @mojoe6396 25 дней назад +3

      @@scorpsieorwin5678 i like the way your brain is working lol

  • @elizabethvandecoevering6042
    @elizabethvandecoevering6042 Месяц назад +482

    I liked the idea that the Xenomorphs are a Natural Species who's true Home World remains unknown.

    • @daytonsaragosa6790
      @daytonsaragosa6790 Месяц назад +21

      I can see them theoretically existing as a natural species on a planet where they're considered ants. So miniscule compared to the other lifeforms, this was the only thing they could extract safely

    • @rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290
      @rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 Месяц назад +39

      @@daytonsaragosa6790 So the xenomorphs are the lesser evil in a planet of eldritch horrors?! Please, someone make a film based on this idea! A *_decent_* film, not some money grab trashbin.

    • @l3ftie578
      @l3ftie578 Месяц назад +3

      @@daytonsaragosa6790 they are very ant-like

    • @worsethanhitlerpt.2539
      @worsethanhitlerpt.2539 29 дней назад

      Xenomorphs seem too virulent and destructive to be natural but then anythings possible on other planets

    • @gengen8672
      @gengen8672 27 дней назад

      ​@@l3ftie578Муравьи трудолюбивы, а эти как трутни, только сидят и ждут когда еда забредает сама.🙄

  • @larryaldrich4351
    @larryaldrich4351 Месяц назад +315

    The original "Alien" was the scariest because the xenomorph was such a mystery with unanswered questions.

    • @rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290
      @rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 Месяц назад +41

      Exactly. Not every mystery needs a solution.

    • @josedavila1759
      @josedavila1759 Месяц назад +6

      There is still a lot we don’t know

    • @notreallydavid
      @notreallydavid 29 дней назад +11

      The strenuous backstory contortions just don't work. Part of the point of the original was the inexplicability of the beast.

    • @andrewdunn8259
      @andrewdunn8259 28 дней назад +6

      The first film had a great start with excellent camera angles set the mood off brilliantly and the alien was something strange and monstrous. The second film turned them into bugs completely by accident and H.R Giger really hated it.
      Prometheus was a poor imitation Giger's work but Covenant brought it back a bit.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 26 дней назад +7

      Precisely.
      That Ridley Scott didn't get this only adds to how unsuitable he was to shepherd the franchise.
      Making David the creator of the xenomorph was just an impossibly dumb move.
      It amounts to little more than android daddy issues.

  • @AJFisherDesign
    @AJFisherDesign Месяц назад +128

    I read the Dark Horse graphic novels when I was younger, before the later movies, and through those publications came to understand that the xenomorph occurred naturally somewhere and that their homeworld likely included other, equally deadly predators to keep the ecosystem in balance.

    • @LGB007
      @LGB007 Месяц назад +8

      I still have those dark Horse comics

    • @MRROLLOSUSHINBURGUER
      @MRROLLOSUSHINBURGUER 13 часов назад +1

      name of the comics pls

    • @AJFisherDesign
      @AJFisherDesign 13 часов назад

      @@MRROLLOSUSHINBURGUER The first book I read and owned was called “Aliens: Book One” (1990) by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson. There was a follow up edition whose cover featured Aliens w individual numbers on them; an attempt to weaponise by some warped military general type I think.

    • @LGB007
      @LGB007 12 часов назад

      @@MRROLLOSUSHINBURGUER By Dark Horse......Title Aliens vs Predator. Or Just the Alien series.

  • @velveetaslingshot
    @velveetaslingshot Месяц назад +100

    Following the canonical themes of ALL the films, it makes perfect sense that David is not the creator. He is just another in a long line of people trying to figure out a way to use and exploit the Xenomorphs. The common thread of seeking to exploit a biological weapon still holds even if Prometheus raised a whole lot of questions (for apparently no other reason than to be mysterious).

  • @exiverence
    @exiverence 28 дней назад +23

    I’m glad you included the natural predatory threat of the xenomorph on that planet. That would be awesome to see if they had somewhat of a story arc with them in future alien movies

  • @drunkenhowler22
    @drunkenhowler22 24 дня назад +37

    My headcanon is that the Xenomorph is simply a wild animal from a wildly different ecosystem, perhaps being transported on the crashed ship for a simple purpose, such as food, ecological preservation etc. But either way they are from somewhere so different that when encountering humanity they could thrive in the same way the Cane Toad had when introduced in Australia.

  • @Ogkrptonite
    @Ogkrptonite Месяц назад +52

    I like to believe the xenos to be naturally occurring and studied/ weaponized by engineers.

  • @DB-1984
    @DB-1984 4 дня назад +2

    David didn’t create them he just created his perfect version of them .

  • @user-roninwolf1981
    @user-roninwolf1981 Месяц назад +42

    @4:20
    It's been canonically established that David did not create the original Xenomorph; he simply created a strain that was functionally identical to the strain we are all familiar with (the same one encountered on LV-426).

    • @fram8590
      @fram8590 23 дня назад

      Who created them? The engineers? What about the Queen though? Isn't it contradictory since they are bioengineered?

    • @alexgreen5576
      @alexgreen5576 23 дня назад +1

      ​@@fram8590yes the engineers bioengineered them.

  • @willrueb9573
    @willrueb9573 Месяц назад +14

    I think both concepts are interesting.
    I like the bioweapon angle because it allows for there to be deeper lore that expands the universe, but I also think it's a very romantic idea to have the Xeno being something that has evolved over millennia and is waiting out there to be discovered.
    One thing I do wish was delved deeper into, which was touched on in Alien Resurrection, is making the Xeno's more intelligent, and modified via their hosts.
    I've always been intrigued by Ridley's original concept to make the Xeno win at the end of Alien and speak with Ripley's voice into the flight log, so that a salvage crew would find the escape pod and be attacked. I find that concept to be really shocking and terrifying that something so ALIEN could replicate human speech and intelligence.

  • @gustabartok
    @gustabartok Месяц назад +46

    You might say David achieved creating A Xenomorph but truth is they're ancient creatures scattered in space with not much of a known background available.

  • @MmaMadman85
    @MmaMadman85 21 день назад +12

    I think the captain of the Prometheus ship was correct in his hypothisis that the outpost they found was military and they found their bioweapons, used to create biological WMD's, AKA, The Xenomorphs

  • @whitemagus2000
    @whitemagus2000 23 дня назад +9

    I read that old xenomorph origins comic. It was good, or at least adequate and made sense. Much better than an android inventing them about 20 minutes ago, despite the fact that the original derelict had been there for thousands of years and xenomorph murals being present at the black goo factory.

  • @ericbotondbatternay8452
    @ericbotondbatternay8452 Месяц назад +12

    I like the idea of the Xenomorphs being a naturally evolved species that acts as the galaxy's equalizer. They are the Fermi's paradox incarnate.

  • @andimitris24
    @andimitris24 Месяц назад +83

    I wish there was an undo button for Prometheus and Covenant...

    • @eddie20onine
      @eddie20onine Месяц назад +19

      Undo undo undo, to late now were stuck with those crap movies, I think Ridley Scott should be kept at least 100 meters for any alien movies from now on, a kind of intellectual restraining order, its for his own good

    • @obione9650
      @obione9650 Месяц назад

      He's a drunk I saw an interview with him and the bloke who played David Ripley was shit faced he had no idea what was going on

    • @leeboy26
      @leeboy26 Месяц назад +7

      And resurrection.

    • @tupus5068
      @tupus5068 Месяц назад +1

      Undo humanity. Undo life

    • @tommywing100
      @tommywing100 Месяц назад +1

      Both were shite

  • @kylefreitus6765
    @kylefreitus6765 Месяц назад +5

    In Alien Bloodlines it’s heavily insinuated they are a primordial and ancient race or bio weapon that is continually discovered and researched by young species leading to their destruction. Alien Dark Descent kinda reinforces this in my opinion when you find the ancient alien city. To top it off the nature of the Engineers and the Black Goo Pathogen makes me believe (and this is just my theory here) that the neomorph creatures that result are just a terraforming mechanism. Mankind would see it as a bio weapon because of how it procreated and it’s behavior but… I think the engineers see it as a tool given they look down on humans as inferior. All David did was continue the trend. I don’t think the ship in the first movie had anything to do with him I think that was the actual “militarized” original strand instead of the terraforming one we see in Prometheus and Covenant.

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri Месяц назад +5

    I prefer the theory of artificial lifeform *but* not Prometheus/Covenant style because those two movies were so stupid it hurts.
    Rather I present the idea that the creator of the Xenomorph species took inspiration from various insect life like Jewel Wasps and so forth. I'm a huge proponent of 'Egg Morphing', I find that far more terrifying in conjunction with the Chestburster or the way AvP on Atari Jaguar proposes, that Egg Morphing results in an fully grown alien. In either case it's all terrifying. Imagine feeling your body slowly being broken down, painfully presumably, to become an egg.

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 Месяц назад +5

    I think David simply, "Re-created", the xenomorphs. They pre-existed his, "Research". Great video.

  • @juliusjohnson376
    @juliusjohnson376 Месяц назад +12

    I like to think the Aliens are a natural form of life, that the Engineers wanted to re-create in order to be able to control them. With their own mindless and controllable drones they could then use them a sort of elite army to do the dirty work. But of course their experiments to re-create ended up biting them in the rear. *Literally* lol

    • @doombringer3498
      @doombringer3498 Месяц назад

      Aliens are hyperinvasive, parasitic, predatory, hive-social species with overwhelming physical power. Any population suitable to become breeding hosts will be exterminated by them to the last. Such instincts are highly unnatural for parasitic lifeforms which clearly proves that Xenomorphs are constructed bioweapon.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for this video on this planet

  • @kennywedlake2981
    @kennywedlake2981 Месяц назад +23

    Remind me not to make it a vacation destination ...

    • @VashtheStampede007
      @VashtheStampede007 Месяц назад +3

      Unless you are a predator

    • @thesum3312
      @thesum3312 7 дней назад

      What are you talking about? That's the best spot for politicians and billionaires

  • @TheRubberStudiosASMR
    @TheRubberStudiosASMR 29 дней назад

    Nice video mate:)

  • @SuperRickster
    @SuperRickster Месяц назад +3

    Much better than the Prometheus Line, Aliens and AvP from the Comics had so much RPG potential for a Game, to sad the Project was canceled.

  • @stegatops1
    @stegatops1 Месяц назад +4

    What a great movie....."Xenomorph Prime"........Ill be the first to buy shares in the movie.....Id finance it myself if I could!

  • @henrimarchildon5016
    @henrimarchildon5016 13 часов назад +1

    I like to think that the xenomorphs are from a planet that orbits around multiple stars in a star cluster. With an ecosystem so hostile that everything will try to kill anything that moves.

  • @iammeia1361
    @iammeia1361 13 дней назад +1

    I'm waiting for Alien vs Predator the game that will never be released. The lore was 🔥

  • @hartoramasenju4012
    @hartoramasenju4012 27 дней назад +7

    I prefer Xenomorph origin to be an unknown creatures from unknown world because it fit the most basic kind of fear, fear of the unknown. Sometimes less is more, this is one of the case for me

  • @GarySpeight-cv5sw
    @GarySpeight-cv5sw 13 дней назад

    I had the comics years ago, sure the Queens had a special group protecting them. Yes remember the lizards eating them, face hugger erupted and was promptly eaten. So good seeing the comic drawing on here. 🙂

  • @fullaregrets5015
    @fullaregrets5015 24 дня назад

    I like both ideas, tbh. Like reinventing the wheel, except this wheel can decimate planets. At least they were mostly contained on their homeworld.

  • @jamesmclemore9123
    @jamesmclemore9123 Месяц назад +3

    I think that the best origin for the Xenomorphs would be to have them be a heavily genetically modified version of a similar naturally occurring creature. Maybe make it so that the Engineers found a species that evolved a way adapt to any new environment by incorporating the DNA of the local fauna into it's genome and then they experimented with it to turn it into a biological weapon by making its blood acidic and making it resistant to the vacuum of space.

  • @neeklahs
    @neeklahs День назад

    I like the idea of the natural pathogen, Which eventually evolves into a xenomorph, taking more or less time, along with its variants depending on the host. But eventually arriving at the known xenomorph, Dave being only an accelerating agent in that specific case.

  • @ngcastronerd4791
    @ngcastronerd4791 12 дней назад +1

    Well given that engineers showed signs of "chest burst". What David did wasn't really create the xenomorphs but modified them IMO.

  • @mattdemo6387
    @mattdemo6387 Месяц назад

    This is one of my favorite stories in comic book series of the Xenomorphs😮

  • @tauIrrydah
    @tauIrrydah 21 день назад +1

    Also the Engineers did not create the black goo. But they were able to replicate it.

  • @orlandojohnson5742
    @orlandojohnson5742 12 дней назад

    I like the idea xenos were already on another planet & Engineers & Predators took some to other places!
    Thus creating weaker strains of their former selves. A Pure Xenomorph would be interesting to eventually see!
    The concept has always been so cool! Predators & Engineers too!

  • @PoppaCashGG
    @PoppaCashGG 20 дней назад

    the idea of the xenomorph having a natural predator could be an interesting movie plot point.

  • @bartsullivan4866
    @bartsullivan4866 Месяц назад +10

    I think the author is right having David be the creator of the Xenomorph does kind of cheapen the story. Something so lethal created by human means. Would have made more sense if it was a species of its own or found by the Engineers. I am curious about Alien Romulus if it is supposed to take place between the original 2 films. I like the idea of using a more industrial future on the ships rather than CGI bright and shiny.

    • @alexgreen5576
      @alexgreen5576 23 дня назад

      That's not what happened though David reversed engineered them. He couldn't have made the ones we see in the original movie that had been sitting there for centuries. Not to mention the ones we see in avp.

    • @DorisDay-lw4xs
      @DorisDay-lw4xs 14 дней назад

      David just tampered with the existing species, creating his own variant.

    • @notyourdaddude1957
      @notyourdaddude1957 9 дней назад

      Bro Romulus looks like a generic alien movie where a group of people are stuck in a spaceship while being hunted down by the xenos, from what i have seen from the trailer it doesn't impress me at all.
      It's the same thing we already saw hundreds of times.

  • @Shoutatclouds
    @Shoutatclouds Месяц назад +15

    They blew it up in the books

  • @wint3rki11
    @wint3rki11 8 дней назад

    The more I think about it, the more I like it that they were made by David. They have a few human like features and would make sense that some of these features still persists.

  • @theloweffortchannel7211
    @theloweffortchannel7211 29 дней назад

    I think its something like Blindsight, but the xenomorphs were originally sentient but evolved into a sort of hivemind later on after fully integrating technology into themselves

  • @peterli6266
    @peterli6266 Месяц назад +3

    Great stuff.Thx for the information.Supscibed Bro!

  • @pjlav6304
    @pjlav6304 3 дня назад

    Fun Fact!
    The Movie Pitch Black was supposed to be Cannon within the Alien Franchise. It was supposed to be set on the home planet of the Xenomorph and showcased their natural environment and why they're "blind" and the creatures were meant to be Xenos

  • @kavehaghayazdi2576
    @kavehaghayazdi2576 Месяц назад +29

    4:22 Don't worry bro, Alien: Romulus based on some leaks is going to debunk this stupid fact that David created them.

    • @beanbag9696
      @beanbag9696 Месяц назад +26

      David never created the xenomorphs, he created a variant....

    • @kavehaghayazdi2576
      @kavehaghayazdi2576 Месяц назад +6

      @@beanbag9696 Yeah, it's what I always say to new alien fans.

    • @macabrepixels5440
      @macabrepixels5440 Месяц назад

      so the engineers did. they are still an artificial species. this is confirmed by ridley scott.

    • @TheLeft-HandedPainter
      @TheLeft-HandedPainter Месяц назад +9

      David just created what he could from scraps of what the engineers had, and from shaw's womb read the novels or just watched David's experiments its on RUclips

    • @kavehaghayazdi2576
      @kavehaghayazdi2576 Месяц назад +1

      @@TheLeft-HandedPainter Yeah because if protomorph is a prototype to the actual xenomorph then why he would make the xeno smaller.

  • @User-kq3od
    @User-kq3od 4 дня назад

    Like others have pointed out, David created Protomorphs, imperfect versions of the Xenomorphs.
    My personal take from the movies was that the black goo could have been used to create xenomorphs or it could have been a product of engineer science, analyzing and taking samples from the xenomorphs as the Engineers have never rlly seemed shocked or interested by xenomorphs, humans or yautja.
    So my personal canon was always more of aliens being a mix of bio-mechanics.
    A chicken and the egg situation, I mean after all they adapt to any environment perfectly by taking traits of their hosts.
    The xenomorphs could be "The perfect lifeform" or they could be a biomechanical weapon.
    Either way, how I see it, it does not matter.
    One way or another they are free roaming in the universe now and its everybodies problem.
    Whether naturally occuring or a weapon that got out of control, they are here and they are hungry.

  • @mrpocock
    @mrpocock 12 дней назад

    In my headcannon, David was just playing with the potential that the Engineers had weaponised from the wild xenomorphs.

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy Месяц назад

    I like the idea that the xenomorph is a naturally occuring species that the engineers used to create the black goo due to their natural ability to take one the genetic differences of their breed prey. The engineers saw a natural ability they had and harnesses it for their own uses and David simply managed to release what was already there and only THOUGHT he created them.

  • @trickyj7019
    @trickyj7019 23 дня назад +2

    Yes, it was a bad choice to make David the creator of the Xenomorphs...it makes a better story them having a home world/point of origin.

  • @wesker500
    @wesker500 Месяц назад

    I recommend kroft talks about movies channel. He goes into details about cut content that sheds light on the enginerrs and and their ties with xenomorphs.

  • @callummcgilloway4349
    @callummcgilloway4349 18 дней назад

    As soon as you mentioned the ants I knew that you knew what you were talking about
    Ants were a huge inspiration towards the xenomorph as was the moray eel with "Two mouths"
    Appreciate people like you pulling the lore together because whilst the movies are awesome they kind of ignore most of the comics and it's just "relatable human + scary alien"
    They even gave prometheus the same treatment after talking for so long about how it was going to explain everything lmfao
    Like I said, the movies are good and I love them but they've always been going in the wrong direction

  • @lisamomon6793
    @lisamomon6793 Месяц назад +2

    Id like a movie about the reptile creatures.

  • @GrebirfSnej
    @GrebirfSnej 26 дней назад +6

    The amount of vocal fry

  • @Dodge-gh9om
    @Dodge-gh9om Месяц назад +2

    The unknown is way more scary than man made.

  • @goldengrain9851
    @goldengrain9851 22 дня назад +1

    Xenomorph's home world can support human life, ya think! Why would they stay somewhere their host and prey couldn't live.

  • @BeGoodROTMG
    @BeGoodROTMG 6 дней назад

    So on the topic of David I like to think he didn’t necessarily create the xenomorph rather got ahold of the goo and made several new breeds of his own. He more so expanded on the breeds already present rather than having created them entirely. But maybe I’m missing some stuff

  • @TheGreenDeath8914
    @TheGreenDeath8914 Месяц назад +2

    I think the Xenomorphs being bioengineered and being a rare naturally occuring species aren't mutually exclusive.
    There still is a lot of mystery surrounding the Black Goo, and I think it's plausible that David didn't fully create the Xenomorph species entirely from scratch by himself. If you think about it that would be redicolous, as bioengineering is usually very time consuming and even in sci-fi takes decades of research of likely multiple scientist teams and/or university-like research facilities. That means David doing all that by himself is hereby declared nonsense by me. The next question is what did David do then? A complicated question indeed, because he clearly did something and it's not made clear in the movies. The Black Goo is very complicated, even if we take for granted that it's a bioweapon created by the engineers, beyond that it's still a mysterious substance of increadible properties.
    There are more questions than answers, I like to think that the Xenomorph used to be a species very different from now and the engineers took parts of their DNA to create the Black Goo bioweapon. I used to think the Xenomorph cannot be a naturally occuring species because too much about them seems to be artifically engineered, now I do see everything around either or being mysterious as well so why not both: a mix of naturally occuring species and bioengineered.

  • @soppingclam
    @soppingclam 3 дня назад

    How did you get the footage from their homeworld?? How long did it take to fly to that planet? Must have been heaps scary. well done!!

  • @lycanthrose
    @lycanthrose Месяц назад

    I like the idea they are a naturally occurring critter

  • @RobTheSquire
    @RobTheSquire Месяц назад

    I like the idea of the Xenomorphs being natural creatures in the universe but some were modified by the engineers to see what they could create. And that David only made a variant of them that resembled the ones that the Yautja ended with when they used face huggers on other beings.

  • @Damidas
    @Damidas Месяц назад +2

    David didn't create the xenos, he was just the catalyst

  • @whatsupduckk
    @whatsupduckk 14 дней назад

    If I remember correctly there was a tomb like structure in Prometheus that already had a Xenomorph depicted on the wall when David arrived on that planet. The mountain also depicted a skull of a Xeno or some way a Xeno that had been grown uncontrollably so I don't think it was ever hinted that David created them. Maybe he revived or reinvented a strain researching the black goo but not really inventing the wheel.

  • @michaelhansen2818
    @michaelhansen2818 Месяц назад +4

    It was my understanding that the Xenomorphs where bioweapons created by the Engineers, to be used against the Yautcha.

    • @Ionstorm2002
      @Ionstorm2002 24 дня назад

      No to be used for the Yautja to hunt as they wanted the ultimate prey.

    • @michaelhansen2818
      @michaelhansen2818 24 дня назад

      @@Ionstorm2002 or maybe both

  • @thomasmurphy3927
    @thomasmurphy3927 Месяц назад

    Good job

  • @garystroup5285
    @garystroup5285 9 дней назад

    Imagine a game of hide and seek on Xenomorph prime. Would be intense

  • @Markworks365
    @Markworks365 День назад

    You can have both canon and this. Have them with a home planet and the engineers figured out how to create them, similar to humans. Sci fi fun, make it however you want.

  • @PA-jw6fo
    @PA-jw6fo 25 дней назад +7

    Wasn't it established by Ridley Scott himself back in the original scripts etc that Xenomorphs were biomechanically engineered by the "Space Jockeys"/Mala'kak/Ossians/Pilots?

  • @kylemelinkovich8675
    @kylemelinkovich8675 Месяц назад +10

    100% agree, as a Xenomorph fan the species is far better as evolution than created by some other race.

  • @dragonredsinbad4631
    @dragonredsinbad4631 2 дня назад

    I prefer the narrative that David created them through trial and error especially the ones we know because they have unique human characteristics having been bred from humans as per David's experiments. The black goo is the original virus but it bonds well to all species but best with Humans as David discovered in cut scenes from the saga. This line makes more sense because they otherwise wouldn't resemble humans if bred with other unknown creatures.

  • @paratrooper508
    @paratrooper508 25 дней назад

    I tend to take the Prometheus version simply because it makes more sense, give ntaht the Xenomorph as presented seems so ultra-perfect and hard to kill that htey could not naturally evolve or exist, especially given their seeming lack of a function in any ecosystem

  • @Warhammer_addict-jm7br
    @Warhammer_addict-jm7br 14 дней назад

    David made his own version of xenomorphs but they do exist

  • @masonjames7308
    @masonjames7308 6 дней назад

    I don't know how we could ever think David was the creator because in Prometheus in the chamber you see an alien on the wall it's like a mural so obviously the engineers created them

  • @livingcheese2910
    @livingcheese2910 15 дней назад

    I like to think that the engineers created a bioweapon, the black goo, out of the pre-existing xenomorphs. The space jockey in Alien 1 had after all a bunch of eggs and we still don't know where it came from. And the very DNA of the xenomporphs is still inside the goo, which explains the weird mutation of the decon and how David reverse engineered the goo into the Protomorphs. However, he created even more with his experiments like the Neomorph and whatever he will do in the ship at the end of Covenant.
    But despite all the movies (poorly) explaining the origins, we at least still can create a bunch of theories and ideas about all the things which are still a mystery. Let's hope Romulus will make a better job at that.

  • @derp_the_sherp7508
    @derp_the_sherp7508 13 дней назад

    Personally i like both ideas. They are the perfect organism, so on one remote hostile world they naturally evolved, but will also be inevitable if you seek to create the perfect organism yourself.

  • @matthewg504
    @matthewg504 17 дней назад

    I like your idea that they are a natural species!

  • @chowrites6179
    @chowrites6179 22 дня назад

    I personally hope that David's xenomorph(the bishop if I remember correctly) starts the red xenomorph line and then this carries on into the xenomorph wars

  • @TheBlackBrickStudios
    @TheBlackBrickStudios 8 дней назад

    If we completely disregard the trainwreck that was Alien Covenant, something that has always fascinated me about the xenomorph is that it is, at least partially, parasitic. We can't help but imagine the xenomorph as an apex predator, due to the ease with which it is able to hunt and kill humans, intelligent predators in our own right, but apex predators, in almost every observed ecosystem here on Earth, rely overwhelmingly on strength, agility, or physicality in other ways. While many species identified as apex predators, namely crocodiles, big cats, and orcas utilize ambush tactics, many more predators that we consider relatively low on the food chain also engage in ambush tactics, like many reptile species, spiders, and prey birds. The half-parasitic, half-ambush tactics of the xenomorph lead me to believe, that in its natural habitat (Assuming that all presumed 'homeworlds' depicted thus far in Alien canon are simply outbreaks rather than their real origin), it would NOT be the apex predator of its planet. The xenomorph seems like it would be more akin to a scavenger species, with eggs that can go dormant until suitable prey enters its surroundings, then establishing a hive when enough resources are acquired. The 'perfect predator' might be the equivalent of a mosquito, tick, or other parasitic disease vector like here on Earth, and their homeworld could be filled with horrors beyond human comprehension. A true 'homeworld' for the xenomorph is equally something I would be DESPERATE to see realized, in a kind of repulsive perversion of the type of living world James Cameron created with Avatar. But also, I pray they never do it, because at this point, I wouldn't trust Fox to write a single word of an Alien script without butchering the franchise even further...

  • @tely5
    @tely5 24 дня назад +1

    "Spawn more overlords"

  • @NicksHEAT1995
    @NicksHEAT1995 6 дней назад

    This would be a good movie where a crew crashlands on the Xeno planet and have to contend with them...if done right.

  • @littledino1515
    @littledino1515 25 дней назад +4

    I prefer the idea of them being engineered on a unknown planet and them just taking over

  • @chancefriddle8067
    @chancefriddle8067 3 дня назад +1

    I can see them being prey to something that's bigger stronger and perfectly adapted to hunting and killing xenos which made the xenos have such a high population in such a short time

  • @FreemanPennington-je5tn
    @FreemanPennington-je5tn Месяц назад

    I think that David recreated the process of creating a naturally occurring species using the black goo

  • @Aerie925
    @Aerie925 12 дней назад

    Well, given that by the time of Alien and Aliens, the Xenomorphs appear to be somewhat mechanical, and there were Deacon murals In Prometheus, I think it’s safe to say that David didn’t create the Xenomorph, just a version of it.

  • @UtubeH8tr
    @UtubeH8tr 2 дня назад

    Xenos, most likely older than earth, quite possibly has multiple matriarchs...
    One central hive that primarily houses only queens as guards.
    And one single empress who runs the whole planet.

  • @DarthGTB
    @DarthGTB Месяц назад

    In my head canon, it's not clear if Xenos are naturally occuring or not, but they predate David's creation. His Xeno, in my opinion, would be more akin to reverse engineering a chicken into a T-Rex. There are murals in Prometheus that indicate Xenos are already a thing. David seemed to understand their language even though it makes no sense. By the time of Covenant, a lot of reasearch could have been sped up from looking up Engineer data on the planet.

  • @DPH_Psychosis
    @DPH_Psychosis 27 дней назад

    About your comment on whether your audience prefers the David origin or a natural one - Personally I always liked the idea that they were extra-galactic, and spread to the milky way through transpermia. Or, their hive-ships from some comic books, that were basically giant pods propelled by gas to launch off a planet's surface after hosts were depleted.

  • @ImperialHell172
    @ImperialHell172 4 дня назад

    Just curious as to what comics and/or novels follow the first three alien films as well as Alien: colonial marines and the AVP game from 2010. Kinda want to dive headfirst into this universe

  • @blast_processing6577
    @blast_processing6577 Месяц назад

    Is this featured in the Darkhorse comics or the Marvel comics? I haven't read either, but I've been considering picking up some of the omnibuses from one publisher or the other from my local comic shop.

  • @Razzy-sr4oq
    @Razzy-sr4oq 6 дней назад

    I prefer it as a bioweapon designed for rapid and aggressive adaptation to the present environment and each successor generation will come closer to the base worker/warrior form.

  • @craiglind7700
    @craiglind7700 26 дней назад

    In the original editions, before Alien 3 came out, it was the actual Ellen Ripley and co starting that alien civil war.

  • @chadrageus
    @chadrageus Месяц назад

    Honestly I prefer not knowing where the xenos came from makes them scarier.

  • @TheStardustConspiracy
    @TheStardustConspiracy 20 дней назад

    Man I hope we get to see some red aliens in the big screen someday, the concept of an internal xenomorph war it’s very interesting.

    • @DorisDay-lw4xs
      @DorisDay-lw4xs 14 дней назад

      Are there red aliens in other media ? Ive not gone past the films.

  • @nickmontanaro9638
    @nickmontanaro9638 Месяц назад

    I think when considering how easily they meld with other orgaisms the best idea is that they were the original lifeforms from which all other lifeforms originated. Basically God's first pet.

  • @thegreywanderer8427
    @thegreywanderer8427 8 дней назад

    David re-created the xenomorphs, based on the data he collected from the alien planet in Prometheus. The Engineer species had been trying to do the same thing but failed.

  • @nl4041
    @nl4041 29 дней назад

    Definitely prefer the Zerg like origins. They were a natural species or perhaps are but after consuming a certain type of host for so long the most common appearance of xenos is what became known to the galaxy at large but perhaps some where the true prime xenos exist.

  • @coldlion2xv
    @coldlion2xv 12 дней назад

    I wish we could get to see them fight their ecological competitor in a movie somehow

  • @TillyOrifice
    @TillyOrifice Месяц назад +12

    Doesn't seem like a particularly well thought out ecosystem.

    • @fernandoharo3738
      @fernandoharo3738 Месяц назад

      Which is exactly why this whole xenomorph homeworld concept makes no sense. It makes more sense for them to be a genetically engineered bio weapon created by an intelligent race like the space jockeys.

  • @shareefking3798
    @shareefking3798 Месяц назад +13

    Daivd is a maker not the creator.

    • @chination1796
      @chination1796 Месяц назад +8

      David just created his own version of the Zenomorph the Engineers made contact with the original Zenomorphs & used their blood to make the pathogen or the black goo

    • @-WhizzBang-
      @-WhizzBang- Месяц назад

      Umm, the maker is the same fking thing!~ Simp David genetically engineered the Xenomorph, hence created, made, invented, and whatever other synonym you want to use!

    • @-WhizzBang-
      @-WhizzBang- Месяц назад

      @@chination1796 FALSE!

    • @chination1796
      @chination1796 Месяц назад +3

      @@-WhizzBang- Real Alien fans know this to be true

    • @-WhizzBang-
      @-WhizzBang- Месяц назад

      @@chination1796 real Alien fans know this to be FALSE!

  • @notyourdaddude1957
    @notyourdaddude1957 9 дней назад

    David didn't actually created xeno race, they already existed way before as it's shown in the Prometheus murals as someone already mentioned.
    He created a more superior variant of the xenos, a stronger species of it if you want.
    We still don't know the origins of the aliens and probably we never will, the mistery of it is what makes xenomorphs so interesting, although the theory that the Engineers created xenos as some kind of biological weapon to erase civilizations is very interesting to me.