This is channel for anything interresting and anything what interest others.And this channel clearly is both of it.RUclips is sadly also open for any rude existence who have nothing worthy to say yet it still provides people like you room to say anything you wish even if it have no value,logic or sense.
Moral of the story: Battle stance, forget the pants; protect the flank with higher rank, last for years with trusted spears; enemies hang when dangles swang.
@@johnnystander3142 What I meant was that after the roman empire itself had crumbled, including the west, and some eastern territory. The Byzantine empire was what was left of the eastern empire
@@johnnystander3142 And besides, the eastern roman empire and Byzantine empire are the same thing... Just that Byzantine comes from the eastern roman empires capital, Byzantium.
@@distilledwater8871 the area were the capital was built was called byzantium in the ancient times. The term byzantine came much later after the empire's fall. It was never called byzantine during its existence.
Thanks mate! Yeah the Civilization 6 soundtrack really is amazing. And yeah go late Roman period! Severely underrated period with some very cool costumes and armour
After the Imperial age it makes me cry how Rome’s army fell apart in the armament department one day I’ll build a time machine and save the western Roman Empire Alexa play despacito
@@paprskomet In fact in some cases it was far superior it was just the Roman military became more focused on defense, they could still put up a good fight like the earlier legions but they couldn't recover from a bad defeat, unlike the republican and early imperial era.
This was really well done, I con not imagine the hours put into the drawings. You are quite talented, I am totally going to check out the rest of your videos.
Very nice work! Helpful in understanding the evolution of equipment for a Roman legionary as the centuries went by. The classic look of segmented armor, gladius, pilum and the imperial Gallic helmet was not always standard equipment.
Honestly, I really this old style of yours to the other more contemporary ones you do now! It has this more cartoony feel to it, but that's what makes it come off as quite charming in a way to me. That and the music here slaps!
That is something I’ve wanted to do:) but not for a while, I realise I’m waaay less knowledgeable about Byzantine military than I am with Roman stuff. And the fact that Byzantine military history and military costume is not nearly as well understood as Roman military history means I’ll need to do some serious digging before I make a Byz video
+Jack the Ripper The Byzantines may have been largely Greeks, but considered themselves to be Romans and called themselves Rhomaioi, which is greek for Romans. Modern Greece is actually build upon a revolution which started as a Byzantine Revival Movement.
This video finally gave me the answers I was looking for 'bout the FULL history of the Roman legions, from the earliest to the latest armies of the decaying Empire, Thank you so much, please keep up that good work!
It is interesting that they switched from spears to short swords then back to spears... if spears were great to use in the first place why did they ever use gladii, which cost more iron to manufacture?
That's an interesting thought. Well one thing about the swords and spears in this video is they weren't used exclusively, but i did want to show that before the Republic, and during the late imperial period, the Roman heavy infantryman was first and foremost a spearman (with the sword as backup). There's a couple of theories as to why the Republican and early imperial periods created this hyper-aggressive military culture that encouraged soldiers to be aggressive swordsmen (JE Lendon's Soldiers and Ghosts discusses this), and there's also the fact that particular people conquered and assimilated by the Romans during these periods (the Iberians especially) encouraged the Romans to copy sword-and-shield combat tactics, while during the later imperial period, Roman armies faced a lot of cavalry, hence the focus on spearmen. There's also the added layer of changing tactics, something along the lines of cavalry becoming an increasingly important part of the Roman armies during the later imperial period, so that by Belisarian times, the cavalry did most of the charging and the heavy infantry played a supporting role (though this view is being challenged more and more these days). So tldr: it wasn't as simple as cost, there were loads and loads of cultural and practical considerations that made the Roman heavy infantryman transition from a spearman to a swordsman, then back to being a spearman again
It probably had alot to do with the opponent they were facing adapting to their style of fighting. Romes legions were fighting in Europe, middle east, and Africa so the equipment they carried varied between different regions.
When they rose to prominence greek/macedonian style phalanxes were the peak military tactic, using long pike sarissas. The romans used spear phalanxes too. But they found the maniple system to be better. they had tight shield walls, but had modular components that could reform and move around obstacles. Additionally, without long unwieldy spears they could turn in place easier. With the roman legion hidden behind large shields, they could make quick sword jabs the enemy wouldnt see coming. The triarii rank still had spears if they really needed them.
_the cavalry did most of the charging and the heavy infantry played a supporting role (though this view is being challenged more and more these days)_ This is interesting! What little I read was along those lines too: that the infantry were a defensive formation for the cavarly to take refuge behind and launch their charges. So how is this narrative changing?
Well from what i understand, general understanding of late Roman military history up until maybe the 1990s was based largely on Vegetius, and he was pretty dismissive of his contemporary military. There are reasons not to entirely trust what he says (one of them being that he wasn't a military man), and late Roman military history has been given a new lease of life in the past decade or so. One of the ways is the rehabilitation of the late Roman grunt as hapless arrow-fodder - one of the ways we see this is the the whole armoured vs unarmoured debate. Traditionally it was debated whether or not late Roman infantry wore armour at all because of indiscipline (thanks, Vegetius), but now nobody takes that line of thought seriously, since there's just too much evidence of late Roman infantry armour (though there were probably a lot of unarmoured specialists, and yes toward the end of the 5th century, armour supply was probably harder to come by thanks to local government basically ceasing to exist). Something like that:p
Good job! but remind that the word "imperator" has never been used to indicate a roman emperor, in fact the word itself means something like "dominator". To mean an emperor a roman citizen would have used "Caesar".
Marco Only prior to the creation of the Tetarchy. With the Tetarchy's establishment under Emperor Diocletian, the title of Emperor became Augustus and Caesar became the co-emperor (the prince); this would be retained under Constantine I's Dominante system, until later under Heracleus, Augustus was replaced with Basileus, and Caesar respelled to Kaesar. Much later, under Emperor Alexios I, Kaesar was finally relegated to an honorary title and replaced with Sebastokrator.
Or the invasion of German lands and Britain. Ice ages, as i was taught are 15 000 years apart from each other or 7 000, don't hold that info as valid, i'm lazy to google it.
I'v read some days ago in a book about late roman military dress that pants and several other clothing items were introduced to the Romans by Germans and Persians, mercenaries to be specific.
@@TheShadowwarrior80 The proto-Scots, also known as the Picts . . . who wore pants, so that idea doesn't really hold much water. The kilt was not introduced to Scotland until sometime in 16th - 17th centuries, well after the time of Rome.
I think it's kind of crazy how you can see the change in the style of infantry fighting in the Roman army and it goes with their rise and fall. They start out like everybody else shields and spears (primarily) and medium/light armor kind of defensive strategy . They when they take off, as time goes on they get heavier armor and bigger shields and take on more a aggressive offensive strategy up till a certain point then they revert lighter armor shields and spears and defensive tactics.
Yeah i see what you mean. Also related to which enemies they learned from - the early hoplite-style panoply was probably picked up from the Etruscans, the gladius was probably adopted from the Celtiberians, etc
It coincides with the times. Romans always used the best available. However, others did the same. Germanic people used similar equipment, because it just worked. Like military uniforms today, no matter the country all militaries use similar camo fatigues and plate carriers.
The part I find the most interesting is that, in the later Roman and especially the Byzantine Roman era, the armor gained high resemblance to Persian armor. I wonder if this is due to the conflicts between the Sassanids and the Eastern Romans.
Well this one was more based on secondary sources. Here's one: www.karwansaraypublishers.com/issue-ix-1-2014.html Also this one, though more for the feel than exact look: simulyaton.deviantart.com/art/Old-man-535952075
Man I don't know how did I get here I was listening to Bathory, but this is a great job i'm a truly fan of ancient military history and this is fucking awesome!!! I agree with the guy who said about making the byzantine ones :)
8:44 This is a Roman history discussion. What's the knight doing here? JK Of course the Late Roman soldiers were forshadowing the Early/early High Medieval knights. Fascinating to know how much Roman equipment changed.
Becouse it not "a knight" in the first place it is a Roman legionary.It is not fault of creator of this video that your own knowledge of the Roman army and its equipment is so limited.
I'm no medieval expert but I'm guessing it just wasn't practical - given the differences in scale (medieval / Ren armies tended to be a lot smaller than the state-powered Roman armies, plus you'll notice full plate was only affordable by well-to-do nobility) I'm guessing it just wasn't worth it to equip your average grunt with that amount of armour. There were specialised armoured cav units (cataphracts and such, who did have very fine armour) but they were always a tiny minority in the Roman military
Thanks for your kind reply. After I posted my question I researched it a bit and found that shock cavalry tactics that came along later brought the development of full-body plate suits because of the importance of individual combat in that tactic. The Romans worked as a team and used shield walls as their primary defense. So any individual's armor was a backup to the reliance on his shield.
+Eli Odum The heavy legionaries always remained, but in smaller capacity compared to the past. What's sadder than the changes of the army was the changes of the empire which led to it, like civil war and treachery within the ranks. The fact that Aurelian of all people was assassinated for virtually no reason whatsoever will illustrate perfectly that wretched era and moral fibre of that generation. Studying the empire will soon lead you to yearn for the republic.
+Eli Odum Tbh, I think the fall of the empire had far more to do with the way the soldiers behaved towards their superiors as opposed to the way they were dressed. The legions were just as much to blame for their fickle treachery as the leaders they hailed and often murdered.
Vae Victis don’t get me wrong I agree with you it also had to do with the influx of non-romans into the military hard to be loyal to an empire that wasn’t yours, considering that by the end there weren’t very many actual romans in the Roman military. But on how they are dressed... I don’t mean that, I mean how they were equipped. However they were extremely treacherous. They had been like that however ever since the late republic.
@@thesixteenthstudent205 "Bit too barbaric"...they used this armour centuries before segmental armour was even intoduced and they adopted it from highest advanced civilizations of those times.Scale armour was in fact very popular also from that reason because it was considered as visually beautiful.You will not find but a single one officer not to mention Emperor wearing "segmentata" but you will quite normally see them depicted in scale armour.Praetorian guard surelly could wore segmental armour and yet at least since later 2nd century they preffered scale armour over any other type.To me personally scale looks fantastic.Definitely not something that could be described as "lacking style".And even chainmale(historically the most common and most traditional armour type used by the Romans)could in fact look very nice.
Ironic thing is, the Philistines (who were one of the Sea Peoples, like the Carthaginians) were a people that fought with shield and spear in the phalanx in the Hellenic Style of warfare. And they did wear feathers on their helms much like the later David and Goliath picture. In many ways, the famous carving was off, but not in others due to some aspects of classical warfare being preserved at that time.
You're onto something there, one of the proposed origins of the Sea Peoples is that they came from the Aegean and were some sort of proto-Greeks, which might explain the way they fought. The way Goliath calls out challenges for a duel is pretty similar to the way Homer's Greeks and Trojans did things. As for the Carthaginians... I'm not sure if there's a Sea People connection there (they were Phoenicians who settled down in North Africa), but they did take on a lot of Greek-style military practice, including Hellenistic gear and close-order phalanx fighting as you said
I was under the impression the Sea Peoples were related to the Phoenicians (and thus Carthaginians), but I can easily be mistaken. So much about them is a big question mark. The fact that Homer (or was it Plato?) said they even came from north of Athens adds to the confusion as due north lies Scythia, the Celts, and a multitude of other peoples.
interesting, i did not know that:/ but that's just ancient history in a nutshell isn't it, everything lies in a state between kind of sure and no idea at all
@foojer ,hello i am a student that writes about the history and evolution of the roman legion,please,if you could let me know from where you have your information it would be very helpful for my research
so you want written sources? I don't have many to recommend unfortunately, a lot of what i have here has come from visual sources. As for foreign influences, a lot of it is educated guesswork based on archaeological finds, or just reading between the lines. The section 1.1 to Procopius' History of the Wars is a good example. There he contrasts archers of 'the past' with archers of his day, namely that the former were unarmoured foot archers and the latter were armoured horse archers. Procopius doesn't tell us why this change occurred or what it signifies, but historians would take this as evidence that say Hunnic or Central Asian influences were seeping into Roman military practice, given the context of increasing military contact between the Roman and Central Asian / Turkic cultures from the 5th century onward. Ancient authors didn't comment very much on foreign influence on military appearance (unless they had a clear agenda, in which case you could check out Vegetius' commentary on foreign influence), so we often just look at pieces of military gear or artwork showing military gear and put it into its context at the time, and make educated guesses from there. In any case if you want to hunt up some scattered references you could check out Polybius, Livy, and Plutarch for republican Roman gear (no guarantee you'd find anything tho). Imperial sources would be Tacitus and Cassius Dio, and late Roman sources would be Ammianus Marcellinus, Zosimus, and Procopius (maybe Vegetius too). You might find scattered references here and there but nothing terribly concrete I'm afraid.
Spatha's medieval equivalent was an arming sword, not a longsword (which could be either 1,5 hand sword [bastard sword] or 2 handed sword what isn't a zweihander {XVIth ceuntry sword-polearm hybrid}).
The music and drawing look awesome. But some explanation should be added as to why going back and forth between sword & spear.And give the dates of the respective periods. Also, why various types of legionary in same time period. But great!
This is a movie channel. ⚠️ Not a toddler painting platform.
nice
This is channel for anything interresting and anything what interest others.And this channel clearly is both of it.RUclips is sadly also open for any rude existence who have nothing worthy to say yet it still provides people like you room to say anything you wish even if it have no value,logic or sense.
Clown
Everybody gangsta til the Romans start wearing pants
@Garret Phegley this was the germanic influence
That's why the Romans never fully conquered Scotland. They couldn't attack the highlands without staring directly up a Pictish tunic.
@Garret Phegley I say Christianity
Garret Phegley Blame it on nero, he is the worst emperor of rome
@@ivokonstantinidis9438 This isn't really the full reason putting it that way
Its actually somewhat historically accurate. Glory to you!
How can it be accurate it was over 2000 years ago
@@jaxta86 you fail to understand the point friend
this is not historically accurate at all he drew a spartan at one point
During the regal / kingdom period the Romans wore very Greek style gear
@@goldenlegendgaming9348 wich one was the spartan?
Moral of the story:
Battle stance, forget the pants; protect the flank with higher rank, last for years with trusted spears; enemies hang when dangles swang.
C.J. Brazzell i hope you have a great week cuz that comment is gold!
Have my like.
And you would be a great centurion in the Roman army.
I would def try
3:17
"is this a roman soldier?"
"yes"
12:45
"and this is some knight ?"
"no its a roman soldier too"
"wtf"
I think it was Byzantine armor, which is basically what was left of the Eastern Roman empire after the collapse.
@@distilledwater8871 it was the eastern Roman empire. It was only the west that collapsed.
@@johnnystander3142 What I meant was that after the roman empire itself had crumbled, including the west, and some eastern territory. The Byzantine empire was what was left of the eastern empire
@@johnnystander3142 And besides, the eastern roman empire and Byzantine empire are the same thing... Just that Byzantine comes from the eastern roman empires capital, Byzantium.
@@distilledwater8871 the area were the capital was built was called byzantium in the ancient times. The term byzantine came much later after the empire's fall. It was never called byzantine during its existence.
Romans be like -
Early period: Meh, upgrade.
Mid period: A hell of a lot better, possible upgrade?
Late period: OH SHIT GO BACK!
@@jimzimmer2048 You want a rifle in yours, Mr. Wabbit?
@@TigerBaron yes love
A. Soldier not all of the late period were bad, in fact I’d say some were better.
@@cromabu5090 Nah, nothing beats Imperial Legionaries with the Lorica Segmentata and a proper square scutum.
A. Soldier true true, but ain’t the scutum more of a rectangle/oblong
Awesome video! The drawings were awesome, the music went well with the video, and you showed the dark ages Roman soldiers (my favorite time period).
Thanks mate! Yeah the Civilization 6 soundtrack really is amazing. And yeah go late Roman period! Severely underrated period with some very cool costumes and armour
Jackson Keller i
Dark ages Roman soldiers but the (western) Roman empire based in Rome collapsed around 500 so...
The Eastern Roman Empire lasted well into the Late Medieval period (1453).
Jackson Keller I know man late Rome is so amazing and underrated and underrepresented
After the Imperial age it makes me cry how Rome’s army fell apart in the armament department one day I’ll build a time machine and save the western Roman Empire Alexa play despacito
Please bring the Romans gunpowder and schematics on how to craft rifles and explosives
After Imperial age Roman armour continued to be quite good actually and contrary to popular myth.
@@paprskomet In fact in some cases it was far superior it was just the Roman military became more focused on defense, they could still put up a good fight like the earlier legions but they couldn't recover from a bad defeat, unlike the republican and early imperial era.
Keep in mind that infantry was falling out of favor by this point - it was increasingly the cataphracts who were the lynchpin of the army
They are actually practical adaptations. Without these, the empire would have fallen much earlier.
I've always loved how little the helmet changed over the years. Simply being refined, show what a good design it orignally was
I feel like the Belisarius-type armor marked the early beginning of medieval armor.
Yeah i feel so too. Part of what makes that period so interesting
Ave, True to Caesar.
Sauron profligates like you belong on a cross.
Sauron give me cause, profligate
Watch yourself, profligate
Ave to Caesar!!!
And thats Caesar with a “K”
This was really well done, I con not imagine the hours put into the drawings. You are quite talented, I am totally going to check out the rest of your videos.
thanks mate:) close to 100 hours from the first drawing to the last edit i reckon
Amazing!! Congrats Bro!!
Thanks!
That's amazing! Truly well done!
Thanks mate!
Very nice work! Helpful in understanding the evolution of equipment for a Roman legionary as the centuries went by. The classic look of segmented armor, gladius, pilum and the imperial Gallic helmet was not always standard equipment.
Trying to make my companions in M&B Warband look like Byzantine soldiers. That's why I'm here lol.
Fucking Bannerlord got release date.
Very cool, i think when you do a video like this you should add a year count so we know for excact :)
who is in your youtube pic
@@Phed98 Search for "Conquest of RUclips"
I didn't find any Conquest of RUclips
Honestly, I really this old style of yours to the other more contemporary ones you do now! It has this more cartoony feel to it, but that's what makes it come off as quite charming in a way to me. That and the music here slaps!
You’re not the first person to say this. Good to know:)
@@foojer 🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️
Amazing Job
Pls do Evolution of Byzantine armors.
That is something I’ve wanted to do:) but not for a while, I realise I’m waaay less knowledgeable about Byzantine military than I am with Roman stuff. And the fact that Byzantine military history and military costume is not nearly as well understood as Roman military history means I’ll need to do some serious digging before I make a Byz video
foojer okay I understand it.
Mbembee Osas who are you?
+Jack the Ripper The Byzantines may have been largely Greeks, but considered themselves to be Romans and called themselves Rhomaioi, which is greek for Romans. Modern Greece is actually build upon a revolution which started as a Byzantine Revival Movement.
D00Mguy 1987 thanks to your information 😊
Hollywood: Ima pretend I didn't see this.
Excellent drawing skills man
I am loving the Civ 6 music! Fits so well.
Good drawing foojer, from humble beginnings, to great might, to pyrrhic ending; the rise and fall of the Roman Empire.
Drawings amazing mate great video
Thanks!
Did you hand draw each link in the chainmail? Props! That must've taken hours!
I wish:) I have a tool that draws little circles
I will definitely use this for reference for the less known ones, thanks
This video finally gave me the answers I was looking for 'bout the FULL history of the Roman legions, from the earliest to the latest armies of the decaying Empire, Thank you so much, please keep up that good work!
This is just amazing!
Awesome video
Nice drawings! What were your references for these soldiers?
Robert Fisher thanks! Well too many to list them all... but I'd say Angus McBride, Johnny Shumate and Peter Dennis are good starting points:)
Osprey Publishing is amazing!
Excellent work! I wonder what software did you use to draw?
i used iOS Ibis Paint
great video thanks!
Thank you, glad you liked it!
At 2x speed, the music is really cool!
Jan Philipp lol I haven't tried but I'll take your word for it!
more uplifting!
It’s the Civ 6 Greece and Rome soundtracks
i watched it on 2x speed and forgot i was doing so because the music sounding completely normal
Thanks!
Impresionante. Saludos desde España, te ha quedado MAGNÍFICO
Pretty fascinating seeing the evolution of a Mediterranean ancient Roman Greek-inspired style to something almost medieval at the end of it.
Exactly what i was looking for! Thank you very much.
Good work!
Thank you!
It is interesting that they switched from spears to short swords then back to spears... if spears were great to use in the first place why did they ever use gladii, which cost more iron to manufacture?
That's an interesting thought. Well one thing about the swords and spears in this video is they weren't used exclusively, but i did want to show that before the Republic, and during the late imperial period, the Roman heavy infantryman was first and foremost a spearman (with the sword as backup).
There's a couple of theories as to why the Republican and early imperial periods created this hyper-aggressive military culture that encouraged soldiers to be aggressive swordsmen (JE Lendon's Soldiers and Ghosts discusses this), and there's also the fact that particular people conquered and assimilated by the Romans during these periods (the Iberians especially) encouraged the Romans to copy sword-and-shield combat tactics, while during the later imperial period, Roman armies faced a lot of cavalry, hence the focus on spearmen. There's also the added layer of changing tactics, something along the lines of cavalry becoming an increasingly important part of the Roman armies during the later imperial period, so that by Belisarian times, the cavalry did most of the charging and the heavy infantry played a supporting role (though this view is being challenged more and more these days).
So tldr: it wasn't as simple as cost, there were loads and loads of cultural and practical considerations that made the Roman heavy infantryman transition from a spearman to a swordsman, then back to being a spearman again
It probably had alot to do with the opponent they were facing adapting to their style of fighting. Romes legions were fighting in Europe, middle east, and Africa so the equipment they carried varied between different regions.
When they rose to prominence greek/macedonian style phalanxes were the peak military tactic, using long pike sarissas. The romans used spear phalanxes too. But they found the maniple system to be better. they had tight shield walls, but had modular components that could reform and move around obstacles. Additionally, without long unwieldy spears they could turn in place easier. With the roman legion hidden behind large shields, they could make quick sword jabs the enemy wouldnt see coming. The triarii rank still had spears if they really needed them.
_the cavalry did most of the charging and the heavy infantry played a supporting role (though this view is being challenged more and more these days)_
This is interesting! What little I read was along those lines too: that the infantry were a defensive formation for the cavarly to take refuge behind and launch their charges. So how is this narrative changing?
Well from what i understand, general understanding of late Roman military history up until maybe the 1990s was based largely on Vegetius, and he was pretty dismissive of his contemporary military. There are reasons not to entirely trust what he says (one of them being that he wasn't a military man), and late Roman military history has been given a new lease of life in the past decade or so.
One of the ways is the rehabilitation of the late Roman grunt as hapless arrow-fodder - one of the ways we see this is the the whole armoured vs unarmoured debate. Traditionally it was debated whether or not late Roman infantry wore armour at all because of indiscipline (thanks, Vegetius), but now nobody takes that line of thought seriously, since there's just too much evidence of late Roman infantry armour (though there were probably a lot of unarmoured specialists, and yes toward the end of the 5th century, armour supply was probably harder to come by thanks to local government basically ceasing to exist).
Something like that:p
Man at 7:30 has mad drip.
excellent job! hats off for you!
may i use this video for one of my history classes at some pint?
be my guest:)
Good job! but remind that the word "imperator" has never been used to indicate a roman emperor, in fact the word itself means something like "dominator". To mean an emperor a roman citizen would have used "Caesar".
Marco Only prior to the creation of the Tetarchy. With the Tetarchy's establishment under Emperor Diocletian, the title of Emperor became Augustus and Caesar became the co-emperor (the prince); this would be retained under Constantine I's Dominante system, until later under Heracleus, Augustus was replaced with Basileus, and Caesar respelled to Kaesar. Much later, under Emperor Alexios I, Kaesar was finally relegated to an honorary title and replaced with Sebastokrator.
i love roman history
I'm trying to remember if a partial ice age was happening around the late Roman Empire. It would help to explain the sudden interest in pants.
Or the invasion of German lands and Britain. Ice ages, as i was taught are 15 000 years apart from each other or 7 000, don't hold that info as valid, i'm lazy to google it.
I'v read some days ago in a book about late roman military dress that pants and several other clothing items were introduced to the Romans by Germans and Persians, mercenaries to be specific.
Actually, the Romans started wearing pants when they moved into northern England as they didn't want be confused with the proto-Scots
@@TheShadowwarrior80 The proto-Scots, also known as the Picts . . . who wore pants, so that idea doesn't really hold much water. The kilt was not introduced to Scotland until sometime in 16th - 17th centuries, well after the time of Rome.
I think it's kind of crazy how you can see the change in the style of infantry fighting in the Roman army and it goes with their rise and fall. They start out like everybody else shields and spears (primarily) and medium/light armor kind of defensive strategy . They when they take off, as time goes on they get heavier armor and bigger shields and take on more a aggressive offensive strategy up till a certain point then they revert lighter armor shields and spears and defensive tactics.
Yeah i see what you mean. Also related to which enemies they learned from - the early hoplite-style panoply was probably picked up from the Etruscans, the gladius was probably adopted from the Celtiberians, etc
The Romans really got a lot of their armor ideas from combining Greek and Celtic pieces, really fascinating!
Love the music and drawings :-)
I'd recommend adding the dates on any future vids. Otherwise not bad.
Start of very Greek looking, then end up like a medieval knight.
@Jose Antonio Campuzano Cano Did the Byzantines had the same style? since this is from the Roman Empire at least the western part
It coincides with the times. Romans always used the best available. However, others did the same. Germanic people used similar equipment, because it just worked. Like military uniforms today, no matter the country all militaries use similar camo fatigues and plate carriers.
That's what happens when your military covers over 1500 years. If you don't adapt with the times, then you'll wind up falling on your face.
Very nicely done, great subject and great video, lovely drawings!
The part I find the most interesting is that, in the later Roman and especially the Byzantine Roman era, the armor gained high resemblance to Persian armor. I wonder if this is due to the conflicts between the Sassanids and the Eastern Romans.
Very likely yeah, some of the ridge helmets worn by late roman troopers were probably adopted from Persian designs
All of your videos are truly wonderful, I haven't done much research however I wish you would color the roman tunic to red instead of left it white.
Thanks mate:) the white tunic was a conscious decision, apparently it would’ve been much more common (and cheap) than red tunics
Read books by Graham Sumner to discover that Roman army clothing colors is far more complex subject than just red tunics popular in films.
The republican light infantry "VELITES" is missing ;)
This is such amazing work
Hey, any sources on the depiction of the first type of 4th century legionary (the one with the intercisa helmet and the Squamata over the Hamata)?
Well this one was more based on secondary sources.
Here's one: www.karwansaraypublishers.com/issue-ix-1-2014.html
Also this one, though more for the feel than exact look: simulyaton.deviantart.com/art/Old-man-535952075
It hurts to watch how you draw every chain in the chainmail armor.
I loved it, just want to see another 800 years of roman soldiers until 1453 :)
Milosav Pavlovic that's right
Art work is awesome man!
Wonderful! You love the ancient history?
yes i do my friend. Do you like ancient history too?
foojer shouldn’t we all, seeing the evolution of such an ancient people is always fascinating
Man I don't know how did I get here I was listening to Bathory, but this is a great job i'm a truly fan of ancient military history and this is fucking awesome!!! I agree with the guy who said about making the byzantine ones :)
really good job, it´s an unique material!
Thanks mate!
Nice archaic music opening. It is actually a real Greek melody from thousands of years ago
Great video who showed me exactly what i wanted to know. Ty
Superb
so good man
8:44 This is a Roman history discussion. What's the knight doing here?
JK Of course the Late Roman soldiers were forshadowing the Early/early High Medieval knights.
Fascinating to know how much Roman equipment changed.
Becouse it not "a knight" in the first place it is a Roman legionary.It is not fault of creator of this video that your own knowledge of the Roman army and its equipment is so limited.
This is so fascinating! Growing up with playing Rome: total war, I suck this stuff up!
ah RTW, so many hours of my life gone:)
As time goes by music becomes kinda tragic... :'(
Well done! Especially interested in the late Roman armours, me.
Sad times:( And thanks man, late Roman armour is one of my favourites too
Awesome work
I can't believe you hand drew all of that chainmail hahah
different level gear until u start getting epic drops
Everybody gangsta till the Ottoman Janissaries come bursting into Constantinople with Mehmed II leading the charge
Lol
Excelente trabalho amigo!!!
Great job!!!!
Thanks mate!
Unless I'm mistaken, the scale armour was missed in its earlier incarnations.
the first song is actually the melody of "song of seikilos". its the oldest song of which we still know the melody and the text, pretty neat
So cool!I'll show this ,when I 'll have a child))
the graphics remind of those 80s adventure games
Hey the segmentata during the third century crisis was the one with metal hooks instead of leather straps right?
Mmmm not that I’m aware of. Metal hooks where?
@@foojeredit: i think it's called the corbridge type c
The straps attaches the segments to the plate on the collarbone and and keep the whole piece from sliding off the torso.
Why didn't the Romans use full plate armor like the Ren period? Lack of metalworking tech or some other reason?
I'm no medieval expert but I'm guessing it just wasn't practical - given the differences in scale (medieval / Ren armies tended to be a lot smaller than the state-powered Roman armies, plus you'll notice full plate was only affordable by well-to-do nobility) I'm guessing it just wasn't worth it to equip your average grunt with that amount of armour. There were specialised armoured cav units (cataphracts and such, who did have very fine armour) but they were always a tiny minority in the Roman military
Thanks for your kind reply. After I posted my question I researched it a bit and found that shock cavalry tactics that came along later brought the development of full-body plate suits because of the importance of individual combat in that tactic. The Romans worked as a team and used shield walls as their primary defense. So any individual's armor was a backup to the reliance on his shield.
What's the music from 03:13 to 06:32?
That's the Sumeria Medieval theme from Civ 6
@@foojer Thanks!
Very good!
Republican Romans looked the best.
Vae Victis yea kinda sad and crazy to see the legionaries go from basically walking tanks to very lightly armored infantryman
+Eli Odum The heavy legionaries always remained, but in smaller capacity compared to the past. What's sadder than the changes of the army was the changes of the empire which led to it, like civil war and treachery within the ranks. The fact that Aurelian of all people was assassinated for virtually no reason whatsoever will illustrate perfectly that wretched era and moral fibre of that generation. Studying the empire will soon lead you to yearn for the republic.
Vae Victis that is what I mean you can see the empires fall by the way they armed the troops
+Eli Odum Tbh, I think the fall of the empire had far more to do with the way the soldiers behaved towards their superiors as opposed to the way they were dressed. The legions were just as much to blame for their fickle treachery as the leaders they hailed and often murdered.
Vae Victis don’t get me wrong I agree with you it also had to do with the influx of non-romans into the military hard to be loyal to an empire that wasn’t yours, considering that by the end there weren’t very many actual romans in the Roman military. But on how they are dressed... I don’t mean that, I mean how they were equipped. However they were extremely treacherous. They had been like that however ever since the late republic.
The armour after lorica segmentata is like, it's effective but where the style and heart gone?
I dunno man, scale armour looks badass to me
@@foojer It's nice. Bit too barbaric though.
@@thesixteenthstudent205 "Bit too barbaric"...they used this armour centuries before segmental armour was even intoduced and they adopted it from highest advanced civilizations of those times.Scale armour was in fact very popular also from that reason because it was considered as visually beautiful.You will not find but a single one officer not to mention Emperor wearing "segmentata" but you will quite normally see them depicted in scale armour.Praetorian guard surelly could wore segmental armour and yet at least since later 2nd century they preffered scale armour over any other type.To me personally scale looks fantastic.Definitely not something that could be described as "lacking style".And even chainmale(historically the most common and most traditional armour type used by the Romans)could in fact look very nice.
Ironic thing is, the Philistines (who were one of the Sea Peoples, like the Carthaginians) were a people that fought with shield and spear in the phalanx in the Hellenic Style of warfare. And they did wear feathers on their helms much like the later David and Goliath picture. In many ways, the famous carving was off, but not in others due to some aspects of classical warfare being preserved at that time.
You're onto something there, one of the proposed origins of the Sea Peoples is that they came from the Aegean and were some sort of proto-Greeks, which might explain the way they fought. The way Goliath calls out challenges for a duel is pretty similar to the way Homer's Greeks and Trojans did things.
As for the Carthaginians... I'm not sure if there's a Sea People connection there (they were Phoenicians who settled down in North Africa), but they did take on a lot of Greek-style military practice, including Hellenistic gear and close-order phalanx fighting as you said
I was under the impression the Sea Peoples were related to the Phoenicians (and thus Carthaginians), but I can easily be mistaken. So much about them is a big question mark. The fact that Homer (or was it Plato?) said they even came from north of Athens adds to the confusion as due north lies Scythia, the Celts, and a multitude of other peoples.
interesting, i did not know that:/ but that's just ancient history in a nutshell isn't it, everything lies in a state between kind of sure and no idea at all
it be cool to have the years with along with period just for a better understanding
fun fact: the later, longer sleeved tunics were called tunica Manicata, literally tunic down to hands.
:D i did not know that. Nice!
Magnum opus !
:)
How is this a song?
I'm talking about a masterpiece (that means Magnum Opus in latin). If you know some song with this name, well, what a humble your author! (^_^)
LAM666 well damn, nigga, r u on ur period, cuz u moody af, he/she/it was just asking a question.
Do you sell your drawing in this video to a cellphone game in use of ad ?
Since I see it on youtube ad
Yeah they’ve gotten my permission to use my art:)
Oh thats fine then just asking :))
Very good job!
Your talent is magnificent , try a bit realistic next time, I'd love that, tho this is fab too
Murica Marine Are you really a Marine? Your grammar sounds like you’re one 🤣
@foojer ,hello i am a student that writes about the history and evolution of the roman legion,please,if you could let me know from where you have your information it would be very helpful for my research
Hi, sorry do you mean information as in what visual references i used? Or which written sources i used?
@@foojer yes,i write about foreign influences on the evolution of the roman legionaire starting from the villanova culture to the fall of trapezus
so you want written sources? I don't have many to recommend unfortunately, a lot of what i have here has come from visual sources. As for foreign influences, a lot of it is educated guesswork based on archaeological finds, or just reading between the lines.
The section 1.1 to Procopius' History of the Wars is a good example. There he contrasts archers of 'the past' with archers of his day, namely that the former were unarmoured foot archers and the latter were armoured horse archers. Procopius doesn't tell us why this change occurred or what it signifies, but historians would take this as evidence that say Hunnic or Central Asian influences were seeping into Roman military practice, given the context of increasing military contact between the Roman and Central Asian / Turkic cultures from the 5th century onward.
Ancient authors didn't comment very much on foreign influence on military appearance (unless they had a clear agenda, in which case you could check out Vegetius' commentary on foreign influence), so we often just look at pieces of military gear or artwork showing military gear and put it into its context at the time, and make educated guesses from there.
In any case if you want to hunt up some scattered references you could check out Polybius, Livy, and Plutarch for republican Roman gear (no guarantee you'd find anything tho). Imperial sources would be Tacitus and Cassius Dio, and late Roman sources would be Ammianus Marcellinus, Zosimus, and Procopius (maybe Vegetius too). You might find scattered references here and there but nothing terribly concrete I'm afraid.
@@foojer thanks alot for your help :)
Lol that is the melody that Nero sung in Quo Vadis at the begging.
isnt 1:11 Corinthian/Greek armor not roman armor?
yes that's right, but the early Romans did use Greek-style armour until it evolved into the armour we characterise as 'Roman' during the Republic days
@@foojer Oh, Ok thanks for explaining that to me.
very cool video!!!
Spatha's medieval equivalent was an arming sword, not a longsword (which could be either 1,5 hand sword [bastard sword] or 2 handed sword what isn't a zweihander {XVIth ceuntry sword-polearm hybrid}).
What is the names of the musics from this video?
It’s all listed in the video description
foojer thanks
The music and drawing look awesome. But some explanation should be added as to why going back and forth between sword & spear.And give the dates of the respective periods.
Also, why various types of legionary in same time period. But great!
Can you do cavalry next?
Might have to wait, i'm oddly terrible at drawing horses:)
well done with this,
Did anyone notice the aka "Smurf hat"
It was meant to be noticed