-I hope you do this for Manner of Death. I love it so much 😁 -As someone who used to wake up at 4am every morning for my 6am-2:30pm hospital shift, I will say “late in the day” is relative 😂 -I think in Tyme’s 4 minutes, Great isn’t up to anything crazy. He’s choosing to look at him with rose colored glasses. Tyme just wants them to be happy boyfriends and dreams up a world when they could just be happy together. Also, as far as we know he didn’t know about a lot of the sketchy stuff Great did (with Dome and/or with the car accident) so he wouldn’t have done them in Tyme’s version of things. -As messed up as Tonkla and Korn were, I still wanted them to get their happy ending. I genuinely think in another world, where they both had better parents, they would have had a happy life together. 😢 -I believe the object in the hospital is the cap which the vent tube is meant to be attached to when it is not hooked to the patient’s intubation tube. But I don’t think that’s what’s important. I believe they were showing it moving to indicate that Tyme unhooking the vent had actually happened for real. He had just reattached the tube, jostling the whole vent, before she came in which is why it was shaking back and forth. -Loved this series as a whole and think everyone did an amazing job. I did feel like Tyme and Greats relationship was a bit rushed considering most of what we saw with the two of them was in dream worlds but I’ll accept it as BL logic 😂 -Drama…analyzers, drama…over thinkers, drama…delvers 🤔😜
I've heard such good things but I was traumatized by MaxTul in Together With Me 😂 Yes, I guess if Tyme got started super early then he is allowed to end early as well 😂 especially if he has to go be a surgeon. I'm shocked as a surgeon he was seeing so many GP patients - I didn't think surgeons did that? But it doesn't matter I suppose. Yeah Tyme's 4 minutes just seems like fluffy happiness with nothing sinister (that they know about) happening 💗 I think even in this world they could've been happy 😭 I think that's what their little "4 minutes" shows - that if they'd both been a little braver, a little more willing to go after what they wanted and damn the consequences, they could've had a happy life together. And who knows, maybe Dome wouldn't have gotten on Title's bad side either. Ahh, like he had unhooked the vent to let Warit suffer, then put it back in so he'd live and know it was only under Tyme's mercy he was allowed to continue breathing... I like it... fits Tyme's dark side 😈 Yes, I think GreatTyme was a bit rushed too, but it was rushed in every version of their reality so maybe that's just them. Maybe the sexual attraction is too much for them in every world, so they just go for it. And in some realities, they're soft enough to actually be happy together. Someone else suggested "Dramaddicts" like a mix of dramatics and drama addicts, which I like!
I was so confused for the first few minutes of the last episode because of how Great and Tyme looked at each other like they knew each other at the hospital. Those first 15 minutes was the most fluff we got out of the show. Out of the 8 hours of the show we probably got 45 minutes of Great and Tyme being a happy couple. I wish there was more. I feel like a broken record but the show was TOO SHORT. I think 12 episodes would have been perfect. I think Tyme actually did cut the guy's oxygen in the hospital and the thing hanging from the bed was a part of that apparatus. That place where Great and Tyme were in the boat was the same place they went to after saving Nan. When they got to their little tent in episode 4 Tyme asks how Great knew about the place and Great said he didn't and he just drove their randomly. That's why they were confused that Great could go there in his 4 minutes even though he had never been their before. First of all how do they know about what happened in each other's 4 minutes. Did they see into each other's minds when Tyme was being pulled out or did they just tell each other about it once they woke up. My theory for the end is that Tyme and Great also died and what we see at the end is the after life. Yes, the clock is ticking but seeing that 11:04 already past could mean that their time ran out and they died. It's probably not the case but I like how the story hints that as a possibility.
I think they told each other what happened in their 4 minutes after they woke up. Ahh... I had no idea it was the same place they went camping 😂 that didn't seem super clear to me! I think it being short kept there from being any filler, which I like. Though sometimes fluff and filler can give us a break from the crazy pace of the show cuz it was WILD. And also we got so little actual story progression when you think about it, since the 4 minutes experiences weren't real. Korn, Kla and Win were actually driving the narrative forward 95% of the time. The show definitely leaves things open ended, especially with the angel imagery they keep using for Great. But it could also be interpreted that he's an "avenging angel" in his new life. I'm choosing to believe they're alive and getting their second chance, but to each their own ❤
I came here from your TikTok and I'm really glad because I loved watching your reaction and thoughts about the series. Me as the person who is not good with paying attention to the details and artistic aspects of the series or movie I'm happy that I can recap the series with you and find things that i missed. I woud really recommend to you to watch Manner of Death because it's masterpiece and it has the same screenwriter Sammon as 4 minutes. Another series by Sammon (really underated in my opinion) which I liked really much is Triage.
Welcome to the channel! Thank you for the lovely comment ♥in another life, I would've been an English major and forced rooms full of students to listen to me rant about all this stuff, but since that didn't happen I'm here to inflict it upon the wider internet!
I almost never cry while watching a show or movie but this one might have pulled a tear or two out of me. Korn and Tonkla's story is so tragic. They both did terrible things and I knew there was no way that they were going to get a happy ending but they didn't have to hurt me like that. The writer was just twisting the knife when they cut to Korn telling Tonkla that they should run away together after they had already died was. I wish the show had had more episodes so that they could explore all of the characters or but especially Korn and Tonkla's story. Their story could have filled their own show but just one or two episodes focusing on their past and their dynamics would have really helped people grow more attached and better understand them. I think it was clear that Korn took himself out because now that Tonkla was gone he had lost everything. His parents had turned their back on him, Great was dyeing, and the person that he had done all of those bad things for was gone. He couldn't live without Tonkla so they went out together. Some people online were saying that he did it for selfish reasons since he couldn't go back to the comfortable life he once had which I disagree with, of course. Among all of the debating about Korn's morality I saw a post on twitter that summed up my thoughts so well. It was something along the lines of "Korn isn't good or bad, he is just human". I think that goes for all of the main cast. I think the only person who doesn't do anything wrong was Dr. Den. Just like in real life there are no heroes or villains but people doing what they believe is best. This show does a great job of making the audience care about people who do bad things. Ultimately I think this show is all about how there are no second chances and you have to live with the choices you make. It was a fun ride and I will be rewatching it because I'm sure there are things I missed.
I don't think Korn killed himself for selfish reasons, I think he killed himself because his life was over and everyone he cared about (Great and Tonkla, even his parents) were gone (even though Great later survives, Korn didn't know that). However, I do think Korn was a selfish person. He obviously loved Tonkla, but that doesn't mean he was a good partner to him. He loved Tonkla as a lover, not as a person. And he basically molded Tonkla into what he wanted. Tonkla was completely isolated and kept waiting all the time, it was obvious that the only people he saw was his brother and Korn. That's why when Dome died and Korn was ignoring him, he was spiraling. Korn met him and gave him "everything" when Tonkla was in an abusive situation and had nothing. But that everything was a nice place to live, keeping his brother safe, money, and making his life all about Korn. Also, just NSFW warning, but the sex scenes showed this too. With Korn, Tonkla was very submissive and everything was about Korn. Korn was always seen hovering over him, Tonkla kissing him everywhere, Korn taking all the pleasure before just quickly getting Tonkla off at the end. Some people enjoy that role, but because of his sex scenes with Win, we can see that that isn't the case for Tonkla. This completely differed from how Tonkla was with Win. Fuaiz said in an interview that even though Tonkla was in love with Korn, he enjoyed sex with Win a lot more. I know people think it's a control thing, but Fuaiz explained that it was because because Tonkla could do what he wanted and actually enjoy the whole thing, not just focus on Korn and getting Korn off first. With Korn, Tonkla got off once it was his turn to, always after Korn did, but with Win, they both wanted to get each other off and both were trying to. The sex scenes really show how Tonkla's whole life was centered around Korn and how Korn was the one who made it that way, which isn't a sign of a good partner. It is even shown in the scene many people are forgetting, when Tonkla was literally crying and asking Korn to stop, but Korn was trying to get Tonkla to suck him off. It was only Tonkla saying his brother died that stopped him, which is terrifying to think about. It took something that surprised Korn himself to stop him from just doing whatever he wanted, even though Tonkla was crying and upset. Adding on: From Bas and Fuaiz's new interview, we also learned that Korn and Tonkla have been together for about 9 or 10 years. Which means that Tonkla was 16/17 and Korn was 20/21 when they got together. Which also adds a manipulative dynamic to the relationship and explains a lot as well.
CLEARLY I ALSO LOVED KORNKLA I couldn't even SPEAK 😭 I cut so much crying from this video, it's crazy. I thought about adding it to the bloopers at the end, but it didn't fit the vibe. I watched it the night before and filmed this the next day, so I thought I'd be able to make it through, but clearly I did NOT. I loved how the show really humanized everyone, even the bad people. I talk about it at the end of the video, but it makes the storytelling so effective when you understand why even the villains do what they do. 100%, I think the characters do the best they can with the information they have in the moment. Relatively speaking. Korn was doing what he thought he had to do to live the life he wanted, eventually, with minimal damage to those around him. In the end, he just hurt himself, the man he loved, and his family. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that. I'd say the only truly "villainous" characters are Great's dad and Warit, but even then you see WHY they do what they do. People crave money and power - for its own sake, for security, etc. It's human to want to be safe, and money is often equated with safety. And even Warit gets some humanizing at the end, when Fah cries over him in the hospital bed. I think KornKla were GreatTyme's foils. GreatTyme get a second chance. KornKla, and most people, don't.
Final comment I promise. Everything about this show is so fantastic. The writing, the cinematography, and the acting especially. Usually I don't understand fancy cinematography and blocking but even someone as oblivious as me could appreciate their work. That one scene with Tyme and great in front of the paintings for example. Of course Bible and Jess did a great job but Bas and Fuaiz really stole the show for me. They both acted their asses off. Fuaiz is so talented for his age and he was way better here than in DFF, but I think that difference was thanks to great directing. I can't believe BOC had been hiding Bas and his talent from us. I know he was in KinnPorche and Mansuang but I didn't realize that Arm, Wan and Korn were played by the same person until I checked MDL. It's the hair I swear. Exposing the forehead and eyebrows really changes a person's face. Anyway, they all did a great job and I wish them the best in their future endeavors.
Yes sometimes the imagery was heavy-handed but it worked so well, and really highlighted their subtle moments too. Fuaiz did such a great job for such a young man! Doing a role like this at only 18 had to be super intense, and he was perfect in every shot, every line delivery. Even his physical acting, body language and little movements he did, were excellent. I was very impressed with the whole cast, but for someone so young Fuaiz knocked it out of the park. Fuaiz also has chemsitry with like everything that moves, so I hope he has a very successful career ❤
-I hope you do this for Manner of Death. I love it so much 😁
-As someone who used to wake up at 4am every morning for my 6am-2:30pm hospital shift, I will say “late in the day” is relative 😂
-I think in Tyme’s 4 minutes, Great isn’t up to anything crazy. He’s choosing to look at him with rose colored glasses. Tyme just wants them to be happy boyfriends and dreams up a world when they could just be happy together. Also, as far as we know he didn’t know about a lot of the sketchy stuff Great did (with Dome and/or with the car accident) so he wouldn’t have done them in Tyme’s version of things.
-As messed up as Tonkla and Korn were, I still wanted them to get their happy ending. I genuinely think in another world, where they both had better parents, they would have had a happy life together. 😢
-I believe the object in the hospital is the cap which the vent tube is meant to be attached to when it is not hooked to the patient’s intubation tube. But I don’t think that’s what’s important. I believe they were showing it moving to indicate that Tyme unhooking the vent had actually happened for real. He had just reattached the tube, jostling the whole vent, before she came in which is why it was shaking back and forth.
-Loved this series as a whole and think everyone did an amazing job. I did feel like Tyme and Greats relationship was a bit rushed considering most of what we saw with the two of them was in dream worlds but I’ll accept it as BL logic 😂
-Drama…analyzers, drama…over thinkers, drama…delvers 🤔😜
I've heard such good things but I was traumatized by MaxTul in Together With Me 😂
Yes, I guess if Tyme got started super early then he is allowed to end early as well 😂 especially if he has to go be a surgeon. I'm shocked as a surgeon he was seeing so many GP patients - I didn't think surgeons did that? But it doesn't matter I suppose.
Yeah Tyme's 4 minutes just seems like fluffy happiness with nothing sinister (that they know about) happening 💗
I think even in this world they could've been happy 😭 I think that's what their little "4 minutes" shows - that if they'd both been a little braver, a little more willing to go after what they wanted and damn the consequences, they could've had a happy life together. And who knows, maybe Dome wouldn't have gotten on Title's bad side either.
Ahh, like he had unhooked the vent to let Warit suffer, then put it back in so he'd live and know it was only under Tyme's mercy he was allowed to continue breathing... I like it... fits Tyme's dark side 😈
Yes, I think GreatTyme was a bit rushed too, but it was rushed in every version of their reality so maybe that's just them. Maybe the sexual attraction is too much for them in every world, so they just go for it. And in some realities, they're soft enough to actually be happy together.
Someone else suggested "Dramaddicts" like a mix of dramatics and drama addicts, which I like!
I was so confused for the first few minutes of the last episode because of how Great and Tyme looked at each other like they knew each other at the hospital. Those first 15 minutes was the most fluff we got out of the show. Out of the 8 hours of the show we probably got 45 minutes of Great and Tyme being a happy couple. I wish there was more. I feel like a broken record but the show was TOO SHORT. I think 12 episodes would have been perfect.
I think Tyme actually did cut the guy's oxygen in the hospital and the thing hanging from the bed was a part of that apparatus.
That place where Great and Tyme were in the boat was the same place they went to after saving Nan. When they got to their little tent in episode 4 Tyme asks how Great knew about the place and Great said he didn't and he just drove their randomly. That's why they were confused that Great could go there in his 4 minutes even though he had never been their before. First of all how do they know about what happened in each other's 4 minutes. Did they see into each other's minds when Tyme was being pulled out or did they just tell each other about it once they woke up.
My theory for the end is that Tyme and Great also died and what we see at the end is the after life. Yes, the clock is ticking but seeing that 11:04 already past could mean that their time ran out and they died. It's probably not the case but I like how the story hints that as a possibility.
I think they told each other what happened in their 4 minutes after they woke up.
Ahh... I had no idea it was the same place they went camping 😂 that didn't seem super clear to me!
I think it being short kept there from being any filler, which I like. Though sometimes fluff and filler can give us a break from the crazy pace of the show cuz it was WILD. And also we got so little actual story progression when you think about it, since the 4 minutes experiences weren't real. Korn, Kla and Win were actually driving the narrative forward 95% of the time.
The show definitely leaves things open ended, especially with the angel imagery they keep using for Great. But it could also be interpreted that he's an "avenging angel" in his new life. I'm choosing to believe they're alive and getting their second chance, but to each their own ❤
I came here from your TikTok and I'm really glad because I loved watching your reaction and thoughts about the series. Me as the person who is not good with paying attention to the details and artistic aspects of the series or movie I'm happy that I can recap the series with you and find things that i missed. I woud really recommend to you to watch Manner of Death because it's masterpiece and it has the same screenwriter Sammon as 4 minutes. Another series by Sammon (really underated in my opinion) which I liked really much is Triage.
Welcome to the channel! Thank you for the lovely comment ♥in another life, I would've been an English major and forced rooms full of students to listen to me rant about all this stuff, but since that didn't happen I'm here to inflict it upon the wider internet!
I almost never cry while watching a show or movie but this one might have pulled a tear or two out of me. Korn and Tonkla's story is so tragic. They both did terrible things and I knew there was no way that they were going to get a happy ending but they didn't have to hurt me like that. The writer was just twisting the knife when they cut to Korn telling Tonkla that they should run away together after they had already died was. I wish the show had had more episodes so that they could explore all of the characters or but especially Korn and Tonkla's story. Their story could have filled their own show but just one or two episodes focusing on their past and their dynamics would have really helped people grow more attached and better understand them.
I think it was clear that Korn took himself out because now that Tonkla was gone he had lost everything. His parents had turned their back on him, Great was dyeing, and the person that he had done all of those bad things for was gone. He couldn't live without Tonkla so they went out together. Some people online were saying that he did it for selfish reasons since he couldn't go back to the comfortable life he once had which I disagree with, of course.
Among all of the debating about Korn's morality I saw a post on twitter that summed up my thoughts so well. It was something along the lines of "Korn isn't good or bad, he is just human". I think that goes for all of the main cast. I think the only person who doesn't do anything wrong was Dr. Den. Just like in real life there are no heroes or villains but people doing what they believe is best. This show does a great job of making the audience care about people who do bad things.
Ultimately I think this show is all about how there are no second chances and you have to live with the choices you make. It was a fun ride and I will be rewatching it because I'm sure there are things I missed.
I don't think Korn killed himself for selfish reasons, I think he killed himself because his life was over and everyone he cared about (Great and Tonkla, even his parents) were gone (even though Great later survives, Korn didn't know that). However, I do think Korn was a selfish person.
He obviously loved Tonkla, but that doesn't mean he was a good partner to him. He loved Tonkla as a lover, not as a person. And he basically molded Tonkla into what he wanted. Tonkla was completely isolated and kept waiting all the time, it was obvious that the only people he saw was his brother and Korn. That's why when Dome died and Korn was ignoring him, he was spiraling. Korn met him and gave him "everything" when Tonkla was in an abusive situation and had nothing. But that everything was a nice place to live, keeping his brother safe, money, and making his life all about Korn.
Also, just NSFW warning, but the sex scenes showed this too. With Korn, Tonkla was very submissive and everything was about Korn. Korn was always seen hovering over him, Tonkla kissing him everywhere, Korn taking all the pleasure before just quickly getting Tonkla off at the end. Some people enjoy that role, but because of his sex scenes with Win, we can see that that isn't the case for Tonkla. This completely differed from how Tonkla was with Win. Fuaiz said in an interview that even though Tonkla was in love with Korn, he enjoyed sex with Win a lot more. I know people think it's a control thing, but Fuaiz explained that it was because because Tonkla could do what he wanted and actually enjoy the whole thing, not just focus on Korn and getting Korn off first. With Korn, Tonkla got off once it was his turn to, always after Korn did, but with Win, they both wanted to get each other off and both were trying to. The sex scenes really show how Tonkla's whole life was centered around Korn and how Korn was the one who made it that way, which isn't a sign of a good partner. It is even shown in the scene many people are forgetting, when Tonkla was literally crying and asking Korn to stop, but Korn was trying to get Tonkla to suck him off. It was only Tonkla saying his brother died that stopped him, which is terrifying to think about. It took something that surprised Korn himself to stop him from just doing whatever he wanted, even though Tonkla was crying and upset.
Adding on: From Bas and Fuaiz's new interview, we also learned that Korn and Tonkla have been together for about 9 or 10 years. Which means that Tonkla was 16/17 and Korn was 20/21 when they got together. Which also adds a manipulative dynamic to the relationship and explains a lot as well.
CLEARLY I ALSO LOVED KORNKLA I couldn't even SPEAK 😭 I cut so much crying from this video, it's crazy. I thought about adding it to the bloopers at the end, but it didn't fit the vibe. I watched it the night before and filmed this the next day, so I thought I'd be able to make it through, but clearly I did NOT. I loved how the show really humanized everyone, even the bad people. I talk about it at the end of the video, but it makes the storytelling so effective when you understand why even the villains do what they do.
100%, I think the characters do the best they can with the information they have in the moment. Relatively speaking. Korn was doing what he thought he had to do to live the life he wanted, eventually, with minimal damage to those around him. In the end, he just hurt himself, the man he loved, and his family. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that.
I'd say the only truly "villainous" characters are Great's dad and Warit, but even then you see WHY they do what they do. People crave money and power - for its own sake, for security, etc. It's human to want to be safe, and money is often equated with safety. And even Warit gets some humanizing at the end, when Fah cries over him in the hospital bed.
I think KornKla were GreatTyme's foils. GreatTyme get a second chance. KornKla, and most people, don't.
Final comment I promise. Everything about this show is so fantastic. The writing, the cinematography, and the acting especially. Usually I don't understand fancy cinematography and blocking but even someone as oblivious as me could appreciate their work. That one scene with Tyme and great in front of the paintings for example. Of course Bible and Jess did a great job but Bas and Fuaiz really stole the show for me. They both acted their asses off. Fuaiz is so talented for his age and he was way better here than in DFF, but I think that difference was thanks to great directing. I can't believe BOC had been hiding Bas and his talent from us. I know he was in KinnPorche and Mansuang but I didn't realize that Arm, Wan and Korn were played by the same person until I checked MDL. It's the hair I swear. Exposing the forehead and eyebrows really changes a person's face. Anyway, they all did a great job and I wish them the best in their future endeavors.
Yes sometimes the imagery was heavy-handed but it worked so well, and really highlighted their subtle moments too.
Fuaiz did such a great job for such a young man! Doing a role like this at only 18 had to be super intense, and he was perfect in every shot, every line delivery. Even his physical acting, body language and little movements he did, were excellent. I was very impressed with the whole cast, but for someone so young Fuaiz knocked it out of the park.
Fuaiz also has chemsitry with like everything that moves, so I hope he has a very successful career ❤
Dram-addicts🙃😇😉
Omg I love the play on words.
@@drama.landia You can use it if you like it.