Love how the audio still have the audible signal to notify the presenter to advance to the next slide. Reminds me of the old film strips in elementary school.
I'm old enough to remember well both of these cars. The 1960 American was reliable, comfortable, economical. Hardly pretty, but not ugly either with its restyle. In high school I used to drive a friend's often , with the 3 speed and OD. Loved it. It did its job and did it well. I also remember well and the seventies and eighties when that ability to repair oneself, much less reliability, was like a distant memory. I remember in the mid sixties when an older guy in our neighborhood had a Corvair and something happened to the engine and it fell down out of the car. He replaced it with the new Mustang fastback in green with a white interior. Good old days.
The Corvair body design was a head of its time compared to the boxy conventional body styles of the competitors. My best friend parents had a maroon one with a white top and it was so cool when they would take us to the drive-in movies. I still think they are beautiful cars.
Our family had a Corvair We moved to Norway when I was 4. We lived in a type of base housing. The way it was arranged was the entrance to the housing area was down hill from the entrance to the garage, a fairly steep grade. In the winter when the roads were icy my dad would be the last guy out to the garage area. Everyone would be trying to stay their cars when they managed to start they would sit for 15 minutes to warm up. The corsair would fire right up. The other cars had to have chains on to have a chance to get up the hill to get on the road. Some would take 3-4 tries to make it, not my dad, without chains and a 2 min warm up he would make the road on the first try and by the time you were on the road the heater was blowing warm air.
That was part of it but sales were slowing before Nader's book. The Mustang is what really killed sales. In the end it was found that the Corvair was no more unsafe than other cars in the era
My 70 Rebel had vacuum wipers. As I recall at idle slow wipers until you stepped on the gas. Bad in a rain storm idling. But I loved the car. It was totaled in snow storm
@@frederickbooth7970 which is one reason to buy a '63 if you like the original body style. Going up a long hill in the rain was an exercise in (lack of) visibility.
cool... then there was the monza model with its luxury bucket seats, carpet, and a 4 speed late 1960 , 1961-63 sales took off and every one tried to copy the bucket seat monza 61.5 falcon futura comet s/22, 62 lancer gt ,valiant signet , 63 dart GT , monza out sold all of them ..... until the 64.5 mustang
I guess GM was worried more about the Rambler and Falcon but ignored the Valiant and Lark. The slant six was a good performer and the Lark could seat six inside. The Lark could trace their origins back to 1939 with the Studebaker Champion
The 225 ci slant 6 rated at 145 SAE gross hp was a good performer, but was optional equipment. The standard 6 was a 170 cu in 100 hp engine with a non synchro first gear. It was a butt ugly poor performing Mopar, but by 1969, 318/340 V-8's and 4 speed tranny's along with handsome new styling made these Duster/Demons quite desirable.
The marketplace needs another city compact car. No frills, roll down windows, some but not to many options, no stupid touch screens. Just an affordable dependable car consumers want to buy. Money is tight these days and I certainly know consumers are growing tried of these bloated SUVs and expensive trucks
My first car was a corvair and was great cornering in the canyons. Nader was full of mule shit, as hard as I pushed it I never came anywhere close to rolling it.
A Falcon with a stick and bucket seats was WAY cooler in my book. After the axle change, they could romp pretty good. Corvairs were better handling.. but I live in an area with few curvy roads.. so my favorite was the Falcon. Ralph Nader ruined the reputation of a good contender though.
Our 1st car was a 62 Falcon & we regularly had 27mpg in mixed driving with the 2 speed Ford-a-matic.Excellent in snow without chains or snow tires with original 13" x 6" tires! Never was stuck even with 2' of snow on road. Took awhile to get used to starting cold engine with manual choke when 1st starting to drive. Once engine was warmed up & for about an hour later no need to use choke when restarting engine. We had to use a boat seat cushion to see over the oversized steering wheel for our 4' 10" stature! The mechanical valve adjustments were a pain though & many times adjusting bolts would not maintain adjustments.
USE ANOUNCER GUY'S VOICE while reading this.-I'm gona go out on a limb here and suggest that a salesman didnt offer Nader a discount.OR,give him enuff for his trade in.And THAT is what "prolly" triggered him.
Fundamentally the corvair was a good car but it was a DRIVERS car in that you had to maintain it more than most cars and drive it while remembering the engineering set-up (rear engine,swing axle and differential tyre pressures front/rear)
hi Vincent Singer I'm new at you're channel question can you turn on the caption please if possible as I'm deaf so caption I really need the caption and please let me know when you have caption working and I will come back to watch thank you I love car's and truck's and I get a kick out of watching the old car and truck advertisement and etc well thank you and you have goodnight and great Friday and weekend :-)
@@carlosbarrea-martinez-dyer311 hi and good morning Carlos Barrea-Martinez-Dyer wow you have enough name's for two guy's lol :-D just kidding and yes I all ready know about taping the screen to get caption but what it is is RUclips automatically adds caption to most video's on most channel's but it will only work if the channel owner turn the caption on on there system so that is why I asked that and fact I lost my hearing from job I use to have well Carlos Barrea-Martinez-Dyer have great thanks giving and Friday and a great coming weekend :-)
Great post on a car I could NEVER appreciate. Total BIGGER is BETTER OTT excessive luxury lover! Family friend traded 56 DeSoto for a Corvair and drove them until he died! One man's trash 🗑 🤮 is another man's treasure, I guess 🤷
My mom had a 62' Falcon Deluxe 2 door with automatic and my best friend's mom across the street at a 62' Corvair 2 door with automatic and around 1970 they both had about 70000 miles and my mom's Falcon still ran like new and that Corvair was a smoking, ticking, oil leaking disaster area...
I had a 62 Falcon and a Corvair. The Corvair almost killed me when it spun out and came near to hitting a gas pump. The car was unstable. The Falcon looked good and was much better mechanically. The Corvair was peppier for sure and had lots more acceleration.
GM's decision to not add a rear sway bar @$6/unit was the cause of the odd handling problems caused by the VW inspired rear 'swing axle' suspension in the 1960-64 Corvairs. By 1965, an IRS and improved powertrain made the Corvair a competitor to the '65 Mustang 289. But the damage from RN's book "Unsafe at any Speed" had damaged GM's reputation. GM would again make the same poor judgement on many other cars such as the Fiero, Olds diesels, J cars, etc. GM management was always a sh*t show, jeopardizing lives, jobs, and profit to look good to upper level management.
Oh that famous 5.7N Olds diesel engine! Lovely 1st editions that were so good at blowing head gaskets due to defective head bolts & head design. My poor mother had 1 brand new. When running well it always was able to attain 22mpg empty or loaded. Noisy & smelly & smoky when running. My poor mother was once stopped by an officer for pollution but he could not find anything technically illegal! He said it was the smelliest & dirtiest vehicle he had ever checked!
The corvair was originally intended to go against the Renault Dauphine, Volkswagen and various other cars that were being suddenly being imported at that time They even had vans and trucks with this rear engine design. However salesman then started finding themselves compare the corvair to the Ramblers, falcons, valiants and whatnot. Chevy quickly released the Chevy ll in '62 to fight against the domestic compacts. I think the corvair wasn't just a 'photocopy' of an idea. It genuinely was a truly good car that was completely misunderstood, killed by politics and a lack of identity after other gm products began filling holes as it progressed later in its design cycle.
Wow even back then they used dirty tricks to sell. LOL. The photos of the Ramblers and the Falcon are all Stretched and out of proportion. They don't look right and they look well...Stretched as the narrator says "The rambler American and Falcon are not even really compact cars"> LOL. Really?? Well not in those pics anyway. Then "You can load and unload with convenience and in safety with the Corvair" Really? Where the driver can run you over if they don't see you or know you're there?? LOL. I'd take the Corvair over a lot of cars but I'm not so sure I'd take it over the Falcon.
Muy dad has a 61 corvair it was a nice Germán car designed thru the planning board of vw porscha and Citröen cannot remember the name of such great concept car guess it was NVK kind of it the only missfault guess the twin carburetor !
i like how chevy braggs about uni body construction and as to imply the falcon is not cuzz it has bolt on front fenders ..,..well go change a corvair fender and see how easy it is to the falcon ...and falcons were known to have good fuel economy and this video shows nothing with proof for fuel millage
Mike Potter, I'm assuming you mean that Ernie Kovacs was killed in his Corvair station wagon in 1962 when he hit a utility pole on the driver's side in the rain. The consensus was that road conditions were bad and alcohol was involved, but he was driving an early-model Corvair like Ralph Nader was talking about in hi I book.
I get a big laugh out of the omissions not mentioned in this piece of BS. For instance, the much ballyhooed Corvair originally had a gasoline fueled space heater making carbon monoxide poisoning a real possibility (reference the crash of Rick Nelson's DC3 in 1985). Later, the heater was taken from the engine heat itself but that also led to obnoxious and poisonous air entering the passenger compartment. The Corvair V1 (1960-1964) was a terrible dangerous vehicle. V2 (1965-1969) fixed these problems but the market had changed from economy cars to muscle cars.
Love how the audio still have the audible signal to notify the presenter to advance to the next slide. Reminds me of the old film strips in elementary school.
When I was a kid at school ,it was a treat to sit in class in the dark and watch those film strips. Thanks for refreshing my memory .
I'm old enough to remember well both of these cars. The 1960 American was reliable, comfortable, economical. Hardly pretty, but not ugly either with its restyle. In high school I used to drive a friend's often , with the 3 speed and OD. Loved it. It did its job and did it well. I also remember well and the seventies and eighties when that ability to repair oneself, much less reliability, was like a distant memory. I remember in the mid sixties when an older guy in our neighborhood had a Corvair and something happened to the engine and it fell down out of the car. He replaced it with the new Mustang fastback in green with a white interior. Good old days.
My Dad opted for a fire-engine red 1960 Rambler station wagon. What a fun family car........ Not so cool, though, when I turned 16 --LOL.
thanks for the reminder of the white hand choke on my 62 Falcon. always worked.
The Corvair body design was a head of its time compared to the boxy conventional body styles of the competitors. My best friend parents had a maroon one with a white top and it was so cool when they would take us to the drive-in movies. I still think they are beautiful cars.
Our family had a Corvair We moved to Norway when I was 4. We lived in a type of base housing. The way it was arranged was the entrance to the housing area was down hill from the entrance to the garage, a fairly steep grade. In the winter when the roads were icy my dad would be the last guy out to the garage area. Everyone would be trying to stay their cars when they managed to start they would sit for 15 minutes to warm up. The corsair would fire right up. The other cars had to have chains on to have a chance to get up the hill to get on the road. Some would take 3-4 tries to make it, not my dad, without chains and a 2 min warm up he would make the road on the first try and by the time you were on the road the heater was blowing warm air.
Ralph Nader killed the Corvair with his documentary "Unsafe at any speed."
That was part of it but sales were slowing before Nader's book. The Mustang is what really killed sales. In the end it was found that the Corvair was no more unsafe than other cars in the era
I’m convinced….!! So where can I get one?
I always look for that "Glued to the Roadness" feeling in my Corvairs LOL.
There was also the Plymouth Valliant, a compact also worth sales comparison.
The Valiant was way ahead of its time in many ways. Printed circuit dash, alternator, etc.
"Corvair, More for the money".....At least Corvair gave you the longest fan belt that I have ever seen.
I have to admit, I hated the vacuum wipers on my '62 2-door Falcon. But I'd still like to have it back.
My 70 Rebel had vacuum wipers. As I recall at idle slow wipers until you stepped on the gas. Bad in a rain storm idling. But I loved the car. It was totaled in snow storm
By 1963 most Falcons we saw & drove had the electric wipers.
@@frederickbooth7970 which is one reason to buy a '63 if you like the original body style. Going up a long hill in the rain was an exercise in (lack of) visibility.
cool... then there was the monza model with its luxury bucket seats, carpet, and a 4 speed late 1960 , 1961-63 sales took off and every one tried to copy the bucket seat monza 61.5 falcon futura comet s/22, 62 lancer gt ,valiant signet , 63 dart GT , monza out sold all of them ..... until the 64.5 mustang
The corvair was a great car. My grandfather bought a 62. We inherited it .screw ralph nader.
From what have read Ralph Nader did not even drive!!
I guess GM was worried more about the Rambler and Falcon but ignored the Valiant and Lark. The slant six was a good performer and the Lark could seat six inside. The Lark could trace their origins back to 1939 with the Studebaker Champion
The 225 ci slant 6 rated at 145 SAE gross hp was a good performer, but was optional equipment. The standard 6 was a 170 cu in 100 hp engine with a non synchro first gear. It was a butt ugly poor performing Mopar, but by 1969, 318/340 V-8's and 4 speed tranny's along with handsome new styling made these Duster/Demons quite desirable.
Had a Corvair, little 4dr, auto, it ran good for city use,,,,,
The marketplace needs another city compact car. No frills, roll down windows, some but not to many options, no stupid touch screens. Just an affordable dependable car consumers want to buy. Money is tight these days and I certainly know consumers are growing tried of these bloated SUVs and expensive trucks
Was this originally a filmstrip?
My first car was a corvair and was great cornering in the canyons. Nader was full of mule shit, as hard as I pushed it I never came anywhere close to rolling it.
A Falcon with a stick and bucket seats was WAY cooler in my book. After the axle change, they could romp pretty good. Corvairs were better handling.. but I live in an area with few curvy roads.. so my favorite was the Falcon. Ralph Nader ruined the reputation of a good contender though.
Our 1st car was a 62 Falcon & we regularly had 27mpg in mixed driving with the 2 speed Ford-a-matic.Excellent in snow without chains or snow tires with original 13" x 6" tires! Never was stuck even with 2' of snow on road. Took awhile to get used to starting cold engine with manual choke when 1st starting to drive. Once engine was warmed up & for about an hour later no need to use choke when restarting engine. We had to use a boat seat cushion to see over the oversized steering wheel for our 4' 10" stature! The mechanical valve adjustments were a pain though & many times adjusting bolts would not maintain adjustments.
Nice filmstrip, but whoever put it on RUclips posted it in the wrong aspect ratio. Everything is super stretched out sideways.
USE ANOUNCER GUY'S VOICE while reading this.-I'm gona go out on a limb here and suggest that a salesman didnt offer Nader a discount.OR,give him enuff for his trade in.And THAT is what "prolly" triggered him.
Amazing how they are using the swing axel design as a selling point when it was what created all the handling issues
Eating that Ralph Nader bullshit are we?
It was all lies and BS. There were no handling issues with the Corvair. Nader was a piece of Sh1zzle.
@@UrielX1212 The Nader bullshit is what killed the Corsair,no matter how you prepare it , and it is Ironic!
@@UrielX1212 If it was bullshit, then why did GM change the rear axle design?
Fundamentally the corvair was a good car but it was a DRIVERS car in that you had to maintain it more than most cars and drive it while remembering the engineering set-up (rear engine,swing axle and differential tyre pressures front/rear)
hi Vincent Singer I'm new at you're channel question can you turn on the caption please if possible as I'm deaf so caption I really need the caption and please let me know when you have caption working and I will come back to watch thank you I love car's and truck's and I get a kick out of watching the old car and truck advertisement and etc well thank you and you have goodnight and great Friday and weekend :-)
Hi Cole, can you tap the cc icon on the screen ?
Me again, tap the screen while the video is playing and it will pause then look above and see the icons on the screen one should say CC
@@carlosbarrea-martinez-dyer311 hi and good morning Carlos Barrea-Martinez-Dyer wow you have enough name's for two guy's lol :-D just kidding and yes I all ready know about taping the screen to get caption but what it is is RUclips automatically adds caption to most video's on most channel's but it will only work if the channel owner turn the caption on on there system so that is why I asked that and fact I lost my hearing from job I use to have well Carlos Barrea-Martinez-Dyer have great thanks giving and Friday and a great coming weekend :-)
Obviously, Mr. Nader didn't view this video. ;-)
Great post on a car I could NEVER appreciate. Total BIGGER is BETTER OTT excessive luxury lover! Family friend traded 56 DeSoto for a Corvair and drove them until he died! One man's trash 🗑 🤮 is another man's treasure, I guess 🤷
My mom had a 62' Falcon Deluxe 2 door with automatic and my best friend's mom across the street at a 62' Corvair 2 door with automatic and around 1970 they both had about 70000 miles and my mom's Falcon still ran like new and that Corvair was a smoking, ticking, oil leaking disaster area...
I had a 62 Falcon and a Corvair. The Corvair almost killed me when it spun out and came near to hitting a gas pump. The car was unstable. The Falcon looked good and was much better mechanically. The Corvair was peppier for sure and had lots more acceleration.
GM's decision to not add a rear sway bar @$6/unit was the cause of the odd handling problems caused by the VW inspired rear 'swing axle' suspension in the 1960-64 Corvairs. By 1965, an IRS and improved powertrain made the Corvair a competitor to the '65 Mustang 289. But the damage from RN's book "Unsafe at any Speed" had damaged GM's reputation. GM would again make the same poor judgement on many other cars such as the Fiero, Olds diesels, J cars, etc. GM management was always a sh*t show, jeopardizing lives, jobs, and profit to look good to upper level management.
Oh that famous 5.7N Olds diesel engine! Lovely 1st editions that were so good at blowing head gaskets due to defective head bolts & head design. My poor mother had 1 brand new. When running well it always was able to attain 22mpg empty or loaded. Noisy & smelly & smoky when running. My poor mother was once stopped by an officer for pollution but he could not find anything technically illegal! He said it was the smelliest & dirtiest vehicle he had ever checked!
Corvair: GM wanted to copy Volkswagen ... change 4 cyl to 6 cyl. Done.
The corvair was originally intended to go against the Renault Dauphine, Volkswagen and various other cars that were being suddenly being imported at that time They even had vans and trucks with this rear engine design. However salesman then started finding themselves compare the corvair to the Ramblers, falcons, valiants and whatnot. Chevy quickly released the Chevy ll in '62 to fight against the domestic compacts. I think the corvair wasn't just a 'photocopy' of an idea. It genuinely was a truly good car that was completely misunderstood, killed by politics and a lack of identity after other gm products began filling holes as it progressed later in its design cycle.
Wow even back then they used dirty tricks to sell. LOL. The photos of the Ramblers and the Falcon are all Stretched and out of proportion. They don't look right and they look well...Stretched as the narrator says "The rambler American and Falcon are not even really compact cars"> LOL. Really?? Well not in those pics anyway. Then "You can load and unload with convenience and in safety with the Corvair" Really? Where the driver can run you over if they don't see you or know you're there?? LOL. I'd take the Corvair over a lot of cars but I'm not so sure I'd take it over the Falcon.
Muy dad has a 61 corvair it was a nice Germán car designed thru the planning board of vw porscha and Citröen cannot remember the name of such great concept car guess it was NVK kind of it the only missfault guess the twin carburetor !
Plymouth Valiant had so much better styling and was much more durable! 🏆.
i like how chevy braggs about uni body construction and as to imply the falcon is not cuzz it has bolt on front fenders ..,..well go change a corvair fender and see how easy it is to the falcon ...and falcons were known to have good fuel economy and this video shows nothing with proof for fuel millage
had a 63 ford falcon station wag ,,no way built as good as a corvair
If you cant dazzle them with brilliance, blind them with bullshit
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Yyys
Ernie
@@betro9 thank you. I’m famous for using too many letttttttters
Mike Potter, I'm assuming you mean that Ernie Kovacs was killed in his Corvair station wagon in 1962 when he hit a utility pole on the driver's side in the rain. The consensus was that road conditions were bad and alcohol was involved, but he was driving an early-model Corvair like Ralph Nader was talking about in hi I book.
@@betro9 just reflecting on times gone by. I think Corvair was way ahead of its time
Death trap
To bad the Corvair rusted away to nothing in a few years which hurt resale value tremendously
Even in the south?
@@MicroSoftner Yes even in the South & West
Corvair wasn't the only Chevy that rusted away
GM`s were known to have that problem on almost all of its vehicles well into the 1980`s from our experience working in a GM dealership.
I get a big laugh out of the omissions not mentioned in this piece of BS. For instance, the much ballyhooed Corvair originally had a gasoline fueled space heater making carbon monoxide poisoning a real possibility (reference the crash of Rick Nelson's DC3 in 1985). Later, the heater was taken from the engine heat itself but that also led to obnoxious and poisonous air entering the passenger compartment. The Corvair V1 (1960-1964) was a terrible dangerous vehicle. V2 (1965-1969) fixed these problems but the market had changed from economy cars to muscle cars.