Aprilia RS125 v KTM RC125
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Join us for another 44Tea chat review, in which we spank the Aprilia RS125 and KTM's RC125 for a learner legal festival of speed: two-stroke versus four-stroke, nostalgia versus contemporary. More musings here - 44teeth.com/apr...
Big thanks to South West Karting for hosting the race of the year... 
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How can you not love the aprilia?!!?!?
There is no fun like 125 I had some of my best years on a 125
Agreed
fisher boy I have a WR125X and it's my first bike. I'm really enjoying it and I get lots of positive comments from both young and older fellas. Can't imagine what it will be like on a 600 next year :)
@@sr20det6789 no
A 2 stroke sports bike, thats something I've haven't seen in a while
They chug fuel, that's why they are not as popular.
It's not about miles per gallon it's about smiles per gallon.
Jordan Gibbons empty the tank every few hours and 2 stroke oil. The smiles soon go!
@@chrisredfield3240 They're just 125s tho, only about 5-6l/100km which isn't too bad
@@aapelikeilamaa9523 you have to match the engine size to the task. A small engine working hard can use more fuel than a larger engine under very light load. Small cc. Does not always mean great mpg. Great fun though a full power 2 stroke (liquid cooled) kids nowdays are missing out with these dull 4 stroke 125's
Anyone who cannot stand the sound of a two-stroke sport bike wasn't a MotoGP fan in the days of the 125/250/500 classes. When I owned an Aprilia RS250 I was transformed into Valentino Rossi during his 250 days. (in my head anyway...)
If I went back from litre bike ownership, I'd have the RS250 over a 600cc 4-stroke any day of the week.
Well said sir, ive done exactly that, got rid of my 600rr and now own a 01 rs250 😀
I miss my RS250 like mad!
Rs250 is an absolute beast i saw one pass me on the ring road was just a blur going past. The spacs on paper only tell half the storey. The weight is low and the power delivery is crazy when it's in the right rpm
Ballbag I could buy an rs125. And I would love to, but the maintenance omg.
A jebote as 12hp or 15hp the maintenance would be fine. 25k before a rebuild maybe longer, at 30-34hp you would be looking at piston rings around 6k and thinking about rebore + .25mm each time a new piston, at some point a new barrel or re sleeve. And even a crankshaft bearing at some point. I have a sx50 6.5hp (30mph ish) will de-ristrict at 17 to have 12hp save buying a 125cc will be classed as a scooter as not classed as a motorcycle as is under 50cc insurance will be informed.
Hit the nail on the head there. There's something irresistible and incredibly fun about holding a 125 wide open just to go "normal" speeds. Love my 125
I had an rs125 for over ten years. Done 33,000 miles on the thing and apart from a couple of top end and one bottom end change,it ran everyday.
sounds like the legendary unreliability aprilia is reknowned for
Had one too, the engine is a Rotax....used in go karts , aeromotive etc...they are reliable....anyone says there not has never owned one.....the cast aluminium parts were the problem.
I rode out the dealers on mine and it sized I no time mechanic didn't fit the oil pump he assumed was on premix the silly $€&# apart from that one thing my bike never missed a beat its the best 125 ever made and is sound I never did get why they had a rep as being fragile its a two stroke it needs rings and pistons changed a few times and it's brilliant 4 stroke 15hp and euro 4 or 5 are just terrible I've had more 4 strokes die on me than two strokes not even close the two just feels better to ride
@@kingslots9134 so the engine is the problem then..... seems unreliable lmaooooo
The feeling in the 80ies to go from a RD125 to a RD350 when you got to 18 and then move to the RD 500. What a time for the 2 strokes.
Practicing the supermoto style with the foot out Baron? ;-)
Complaining the Aprilia loses out to the KTM in the first fifty yards?! That's because you weren't clutching it up into the powerband like a proper teenager! C'mon lads..
When I was 17/18 it was all about the fastest bike, no one cared about midrange or driveability. Aprilia every time. I loved my DT125R, RD125LC, KMX200, RD250LC, TZR250, RGV250..
I’m 18 and I hate these stupid numpties saying comfort is what we want no we don’t we want 2strokes that are reliable as a two stroke can get and cheap and powerful
I'd go for the RS any day……but I'm closing in on 30 and trying to hold on to my 2 stroke youth, nothing to do with why I now own two 2 strokes and don't have two coins to rub together. Word of advice, never buy an RGV
Not even the RGV 500?
Aprilia RS250 uses RGV engine so is that thing also included?
Sorry baron, but you can't beat the smell of a 2-stroke espesh when its running castrol r oil.
Bottle that and sell it as prefum du childhood 1976 vintage.
The karting circuit part is just fucking hilarious xD
The RS125 can achieve lowdown power with the RAVE power valve and a not so high reving pipe (Like the full power factory pipe)
Can you guys do an A2 bike test; CBR 500r vs Yamaha R3 vs KTM RC390? That would be awesome and very useful 🙏🏼
cbr 5 winer everytime for me =], r3 is like a 2 stroke in comparison
Anyone else think that said Hard-On on the front of Fagan's leathers at the start? ;D
Love the sound of the RS!
The two stroke sounds awesome
You don't have to carry oil around with you? It has a 1.5 litre tank for the two stroke oil.
Approach this from a Teenagers viewpoint at 17 you can't get a bigger cc than a 125 until 19 so performance wise the Aprillia is unbeatable compared to a 4 stroke 125cc supersport however for reliability the ktm any day, I have owned an Rs and yes it had 2 top end rebuilds and a bottom end rebuild however every mile was adrenaline fueled compared to now with a 4 stroke struggling to get up the hill :)
They still talk about concentrating on passing the test and getting a bigger bike. But that's all out the window now. 2 years on a 125 is where it's at.
The 2 strokes restricted to 12hp ran out of steam pretty fast. I know many did not stay restricted but it's easy to tell wether it's 12hp or not. I know it's 15hp now.
I am picking up a KTM exc 125 for my A1, thing had 35hp. No one Will find out anyways xd
Heck yes little 125's on the gokart track!!!! that would have been a day for the books
Brings back memories of my tuned RD400 cafe racer. Handled like a dream, was ultra fast too. Great fun.
Strange listening to Baron being serious.
I own a KTM Superduke R 990 and it's a weapon, even in the corners. But out of these two, my heart will always be with the 2 stroke Aprilia RS125!
Isn't part of the fun on little 2 strokes, keeping it in the power band, maintaining momentum?
Loved my rs125. Keep it on the power and it handled like a dream. Most fun I’ve ever had on a bike, utter screamer fun
Great to see you guys on some 125's, and I love your thought's on both bikes.
Imagine a KTM RC125 with a 2 stroke engine :D
They should bcz they already make em
Nice to see you guys at cheddar gorge. I often go down there after college just to see what bikes people are riding, Weston super mare bike night is a great place to go as well. Top video
These guys are definitely sponsored by KTM. The Aprilia is all round the better bike when you're a teenager looking at speed, handling, showing off, accelerating, etc.
Thanks Rodney 😂😂😂😂
Great footage and discussion.
What about the "Yamaha YZF R125" the Biggest, Sexiest 125 you can buy ?
You ever seen a cagiva mito mk2 lawson?
Would be a nice thing to see these two bikes on a roadtrip.
Strapping bags on them and go for it. Range could be an issue though...
What did you think of the build quality on the KTM?
I'm looking at the 390, but I don't know whether I can justify £4,500 if after 15k miles it falls apart. Maybe when you get hold of it you can tell us whether or not you've had any problems like missed gears or stalling issues, because I don't know whether they've fixed those issues or not.
yeah what you said about making the noise and hearing the noise is so true. i live on a main road and it does get annoying sometimes. but so much fun to make the noise! i love two strokes! haha so mixed feelings as well for me
when Baron say RC125 it sounds like hes saying Arse-y 125 :P
Didn't know they still made 2 strokes, I'd go aprilia all day long for the sound, smell and fun factor
Since when?
Aprilia RS250 v KTM RC390? pls haha
Ryan Lawson that would be the best thing ever haha
Ryan Lawson the rs 250 would destory the ktm
Ryan Lawson yeah the rs 250 has way more power than the KTM lol. I think it's a vtwin 2 stroke
@@daviesjack12 It is, it's a Suzuki engine out of the rgv250
Lmao ktm would get its ass whooped
I have the Aprilia Mx supermoto and it has the same engine as the Rs125 but in a supermoto chassis. I have every possible engine tuning part. 35whp in the dyno so its really powerful for a 125cc bike and fast.
Joona Metso And only maintanace i had to do with in past 2 years was adding some oil now and then and one piston. No other problems at all.
Doubt and aprilia sx 125 makes 35... a my ktm exc doesnt even do that :P
You guys forgot the Mito 125 evo 3 2007.
Stock standard 160kph with revs to spare.Best 125 ever
I was at that track a few weeks back. Good fun, and the gorge is great to ride too!! I'm only 30 minutes away from there;)
I'd go for a cagiva mito bigger piston better suspension and still looks gorgeous best of both world
you sound like the guy out peep show
Jez! There's a bit of Partridge in there too :)
RS125 all day long. Had one years back. So much fun.
Question: if they competed 125 CC vs.1.000 CC, both 4-stroke, in a short circuit full of bends and short stretches, would the big bikes beat the small ones? What's your opinion?
Honestly I had a track day on my tuned Aprilia RS250 it was good for 137/139mph, i got wasted on the straights at Cadwell Park but come to the corners it scythed through them with sheer ease fitted with pirelli supercorsas, in the end i worked less than the bully's on their 1000's.
At the end of maybe my 2nd session 1 guy came up to me and said
'' That thing corners like a HOT knife through butter''
He spent the next 1hr talking and looking at the bike.
How I regret selling that bike.
@@eldiablo3270 Thanks fo your answer. Anyhow, the Aprilia was a two stroke engine. There's a mountain in my city (Donostia), where the climb is full of curves, no straights and I always wonder which would be the difference in time between a bully 1000 and a 125 cc.
That KTM rear seat is pretty badass. Was he trying to go cross-eyed at the end?
I'd like to see the KTM duke 125 vs Yamaha mt125. Both are slightly different styles, same price and roughly same speed and weight
Why not the Aprilia RS4 125 vs the RC?
That's my point, 4-stroke vs 4-stroke. Would be a more relevant test.
Might be, but that's not my point.
OlaKulen I think it was more of a 125 test, what sports bike to get?
New 4 stroke 125 or old 2 stroke 125.
The new RS and the KTM would have been pretty much the same in everything
OlaKulen 2 stroke has way more power
I've rode the RC390 and I loved it lol :) the face is one only a mother could love, but I'm its mother is I love it lol :) plus the riding position is pretty close to a 600 sport bike which is the most likely stepping stone of people buying that bike. I'm looking forward to what you have to say about the 390 and you gotta take a Honda MSX125(Grom) on a go-kart track :) that would be fun
How about a re-visit of this? possibly with the 390 and a 250cc 2T of some kind?
Ive only ever seen that place set out as a sunday car boot! 😂 nice vid 👍
Down at one of my favourite biking spots, cheddar gorge. You guys enjoy it down there?
Learner legal is 14bhp. Many 2 stroke 125's are over that.
RoadShark This so reminds me of you and I when we go out for a ride xD
ktm rc125 or yamaha yzf r125 for a first bike?!
That aprilia rs only got the restriction removed. And the owner has probably not upgraded the reeds. Normal unrestricted 2 stroke has enough power. The aprilia gets the 2 stroke kick around 8000 rpm.
+V3VANG Nah man been tuned to fuck, makes 31rwhp an older Aprilia 2002 is even faster when tuned :P
2 stroke is just better what ever way you look at it easier to fix more fun more bang for your buck spending 4k on a 4 stroke 125 is a serious waste of money you gotta have a screw loose to buy one at that sort of money
+bobob if you look at it from an mpg perspective....no it isnt. Plus its so annoying with its buzzing sound.. like a mosquito on ecstacy.. bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Also 2 stroke is just effort in terms of maintenance :)
4 stroke is less maintenance and better on fuel, so 2 stroke isn't better whatever way you look it at.
*After Thought* Watching Baron on the KTM, make's it look like a mini moto. haha
I think 44teeth should have their own channel on sky.
why didn't compare with Aprilia RS4 125? because it have the same stroke (4 stroke just like RC125)
you guys should try the aprilia RS4 125
They're supersport style bikes, the single thing that makes one better than the other is speed. Therefore the Aprilia wins hands down. 2 Strokes are just awesome.
If you wanted a reliable bike that did plenty of miles to the gallon then you'd get a CG125. A CG would be considerably cheaper and probably faster than the KTM too.
How is a pushrod cg faster than an RC?
I feel like this test wasn't fair cos it was a stock bike vs a stock bike...
Could you do a review on 125 naked bikes yamaha mt125 vs aprilia tuono 125
Great vids keep it upppp
No way that KTM is faster. This guy isn't riding the rs hard enough. You need to slip the clutch near all the way through 1st gear.
Im getting rs125 3 days lefttt😍
Sometimes i ask myself "How long is the time to taken infos out of the www?" -sure you guys live on a isleland ,don't worry Aprillia is not faster than Yamaha YZF-R without Modifications...
Why is the spry-protection with the Red-Angle taller then the taillight???😭🤗🌵🪴🌷🌺🌻🌼💐
Is that top of cheddar gorge?
Why is the KTM's speedo not working? Seems to always be 0
Thats Aprilia in general. Its meant to get on and not get off.
what kind of hp does the 4 stroke KTM has? Has the RS been open with full power 24/25 hp?
rs is a weekend bike rc is a everyday bike
I have been there before southwest carting
The Aprilia is just the Rebel and the KTM is the cool kid from class xD
KTM looks flipping lush, nice frame.
The aprillia is a far superior bike in every aspect !!! Every aspect ffs the guy off the camera just doesn't get it I guess....
My first road bike was the yamaha tzr125 2 stroke
5:44 vtec kicked in yo!
I thought the RC was my bike then as i bought it used but my plate is POH rather than POV. Otherwise exactly the same haha.
India lunch ktm 125 ......?
2 stroke is just the best !
I do not know how he can say the Aprilia looks old
Hey baron who u calling a prick ,,,,,I was one of them back in the day on my Rossi rep 125 ripping up the streets !!! Some of my best biking days was on my rs😋
Was that chedder caves ?
Stop burning tires!!!!! its not cool!
aprilia should make an RS300 with rotary intake valve imagine that thing xD
Is rc 125 launched in chennai
stone....could have said gummy bears would have meant the same xD
ktm looks nicer until you get to the front
DT125R derestricted dep pipe Avon gripsters H747MSC you will always be my first love if I’d only been bothered to warm you up on that fateful day 14 miles from home 😂
people say 4strokes are slow my wr450 is pretty fast for a supermoto
left behind well made 450 2 stroke would do a lot better
that is the point of that statement
Fun Edit &
Fun Bikes !!!
;)
How often does a 2 stroke like that RS125 need an engine rebuild.
2010morra the rs 125 is cheap to rebuild, full engine rebuild cost me £250 with parts and labour from a specialist rs 125 breaker. done 6k miles since then with no problems
Aw right. Just because I looked at about 20 - 30 bikes before I bought a 4 stroke because lots of the 2 stroke ads mentioned either the bikes just had a rebuild or needs one soon so I thought I could do without the hassle.
new seals, gaskets, balanced crankshaft, new bearings. the guy that did mine just charged labour and i supplied the parts.
Every 15000-20000 Km, as long as it’s maintained properly it shouldn’t have any other trouble. They’re very well built.
Piston every 5-7000 bottom end 15-18000 miles
Cheddar Gorge. Nice twisty roads
is that BVG?
Looks like Cheddar car boot go cart track is gone now shame was pretty decent
is that baron von grumble...........................
那么who is the best
44 teeth is the best!
Were is this road?
What is price of aprilla rs 125
Deva vijay they don't make the rs125 in that spec again
the frame on that ktm noice